WEBVTT - Mon Laferte & Francisca Valenzuela Speak Up About Music and Feminism 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:02.200 In Uptown New York City. 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:08.200 Underdogs created a sound that changed music forever, and we 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:12.319 call it Saisa and one label captured that sound like 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:19.960 no other Bania Records. I'm Rosy Perez and this is 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.720 our thing. The Birth of Salsa in Nueva York, an 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:28.320 original podcast from Perturo Studios. Listen now wherever you get 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:34.120 your podcasts. 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:42.280 It's twenty nineteen in Las Vegas. It is the night 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:47.279 of the Latin Grammys the Red Carpetmire is a lover 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.680 of that. Chilean singer songwriter Monte la Ferte is terrified, 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:56.760 but it's not with the normal evengitters. Tonight she's nominated 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:00.680 for Best Alternative Album for NORMA. It's about the passionate 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:02.200 stages of a relationship. 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.280 Pierto le. 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.480 Mon is often described by the media as a kind 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.240 of fem fatari with her pale skin and her popping 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:21.679 red lips. She's got a sultry look, kind of like 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.880 a nineteen fifties pinup model. She wears tight corset tight 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:30.000 dresses and a line skirts to her knees in bright 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.959 colors that pop. But tonight she shows up on the 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.320 Red Carpet wearing a black trench coat tied around her waist, 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:42.800 flowing black pants and thick black sneakers accented with a 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:47.040 green scarf around her neck, not an ounce of skin showing. 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.960 Her black wavy hair just down to her chin, had 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:52.800 short bangs across her forehead. 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:55.600 Saville Metemla la piernas. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.480 On the red carpet. Her legs start to shake, but 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.360 even hearing her tell me about how nervous she was, 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:05.000 I've watched the video closely, and you can't tell she's 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:10.920 nervous at allia One takes her position in front of 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.959 the first set of photographers and begins to untie her coat. 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:19.400 The black trench coat opens slowly to reveal her bare shoulders. 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:23.520 Then she fully opens the jacket and she reveals her 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:28.760 naked breasts with these words in Chile they torture, rape 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.919 and kill written in Spanish across her chest. 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.560 Iluego. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.120 In that moment, she thought, well, I guess the worst 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.920 that could happen is people say I'm crazy. And people 0:02:51.280 --> 0:03:04.239 did have a lot to says One. Had just traveled 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.160 from her home in Chile. It was a country going 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:11.880 through political unrest, with people protesting against military oppression. 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:17.840 Beyela Protesta's scanti la pression militar claren Baique. 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.160 Now, remember, Chile had seen a military dictatorship in the 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:27.200 not so distant past. But in twenty nineteen, Chile was 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.400 in an uproar. During one of the biggest protests since 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.480 the fall of the dictator Agusto Pinochet in the nineteen nineties, 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:43.160 over a million people hit the streets. Initially, the protests 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.320 were sparked by a rise in metro fairs, but soon 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.000 they gave way to bigger issues plaguing in the country, 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.240 like social inequality and the cost of living. 0:03:52.800 --> 0:04:02.000 Paco chile Co Madre yego, Las Vegas alos Latin contrast. 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.480 More now faced a contrast that made her head feel 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.560 like it was going in circles mass upheaval in her 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:14.360 country against the lavish backdrop of the casinos, the luxury 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.280 of Las Vegas, the Latin Grammys, and the Red Carpet. 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.479 But amidst her worry and stress for her people in Chile, 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:27.800 the mix of feelings gave way to something great, the 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:32.000 moment that shocked the Red carpet and audiences and fans 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:39.680 alike with Mon's bare breasts. Yes, Toyaki, she thought, if 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.600 I have to be at this red carpet, I might 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:46.479 as well do something powerful, something meaningful, And remember the green, 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.080 the green scarf that she wore around her neck. That 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:54.080 color is the feminist symbol that represents the green wave. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.719 It's the big Latin American movement of women and allies 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:02.760 fighting for safe and legal abortion. Now sitting directly across 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.800 from me. Seven years later, she still wonders where that 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:07.840 courage came from. 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:12.840 Giotti. Second most, mont la. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.800 Ferte was already a well known artist by then a 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:20.000 talented singer, but this moment propelled her into the role 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:24.200 of a feminist icon across Latin America. That's because in 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:28.880 the region, rates of femicides are high. On average, eleven 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:33.120 women are killed every day, and for decades, musicians across 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.799 the globe have raised their voices to advocate for real change, 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:41.000 and the loudest for women's rights are bold women like 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:46.280 mont la Ferte. Because music has the power to unite people. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:51.280 But if you zoom in, that change is still pending 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:55.520 for so many women artists themselves, because representation of women 0:05:55.600 --> 0:06:00.360 in music is still exceptionally low. So how do we 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:04.360 get more voices to make real change? Musicians like mon 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:13.920 are doing something about it from Futro Media. It's Latino USA. 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:18.760 I'm MARIANOJSA. Today a conversation with Chilean singer songwriter mon 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.920 La Ferte about her new album, fem Fatale Volume Two. 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.640 We're also going to speak with singer songwriter Francisca Balensuela. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.719 She's the founder of Rivosa Fest. It's an all Latina 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.440 music festival and research platform. We're going to talk about 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:39.360 the intersection of music activism, feminism and how these singers 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:47.640 are changing the game for women artists. So you know, 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.720 I caught up with mont La Ferte recently in New 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:56.400 York City. We met up in the pash Sony Studios 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:01.120 in Midtown. Even though we never met, we hugged like 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.200 we were old friends. We sat down to talk about 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.280 her new album, fem Fatal Volume Two, which is a 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.640 collection of songs that she'd had in the works for 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:10.080 a while. 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:12.600 Carlos No. 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:21.200 The new album that easily became Volume two a follow 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.160 up to her last album of the same name, fem Fatal, 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.760 with twenty songs. This new album is an introspective process 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:45.000 about love, loss and letting go. And that title what 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.280 mont tells me it is who. 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:59.880 She isla de la peligrosa. 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.400 The fem fatal French for fatal woman was considered in 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:12.400 old times to be a seductress who was dangerous to men. Right, 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.960 women who acted by night, who were strong and sure 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:20.840 of themselves, sexy, unafraid of the dark, women who were 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.480 the same as men. And how powerful could women be 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.720 if they were so strong and sure of themselves? 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:33.200 Do this Claro live in a centil. 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.400 In this sense, Mone says that fem fatal was free, 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:51.640 so that freedom drew her in. It's fun to say 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:55.959 I'm dangerous because I am free, Saysmon. And the lyrics 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.240 to the songs are just as bold as the statements 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.120 she makes in her activism. 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:07.920 No mehusta American sia. 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:14.600 For your consideration, specifically in her song for your Consideration. 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:17.880 You see. 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:23.680 Photograph. 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.199 The title of the song in English is a wink 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:40.720 at the awards process, because during most awards seasons there 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:45.400 are full on campaigns by artists, directors and producers, lots 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:49.599 of people wanting judges to look at their work for 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:59.559 your consideration. So you're not, Mon says. She lives with 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:04.000 these contradictions every day. She thinks I'm going to stay home. 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.880 I'm gonna get fat happily. To hell with the industry. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:14.920 But then illegopian. No no, no, no no sea mesta medivierto, 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:15.959 no no no no no. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.240 I love this, I have fun and I'm going to continue. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.599 CONTRADMPO. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.839 She is a person full of contradictions. Who is she 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.439 the femme fatale, a dangerous free woman? Or is she 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:37.080 said in her song a dumb feminist is? A feminist 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.959 is a woman who takes control of her life. Mone says, 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:46.160 a woman who doesn't belong in a place. But nowadays 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.559 the word feminist means different things to different people. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:55.319 The feminist Macao perroes brgueze Mantello. 0:10:56.200 --> 0:11:03.960 The term, she says, has been tarnished, pedro relmente. She says, 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.440 we should all be feminists. It is not a bad word. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.719 Feminists want their voices to be heard, even if that 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:14.200 means bearing your breasts on a red carpet, as Mon 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:18.160 did during the Latin Grammys in twenty nineteen. And Mon's 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:22.120 coming into activism is not unique. In fact, it's part 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.920 of an important tradition of artists from Chile who use 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:31.160 their voices for social change. When we come back, we 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.440 unpack how musicians and activists from her country have influenced her, 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:40.640 and how some female artists like Francisca Peninsuela, are working 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.840 to change the music industry. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.680 The idea of using music as a vehicle to shed 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:49.480 light on things has always been there. 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.760 Stay with uses. 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:11.720 What's up? 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.520 Everybody? 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I'm speaking with Chilean star Morna Erte 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:01.280 about her new album, fem Fatale Volume two. It's out now. 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.719 We're talking about what motivates her to create art and 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.320 how she knows that she is part of a deep 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:14.280 Chilean tradition of speaking up for those in need politico. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.360 As Monte la Ferte told me, Chile is a very 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:23.200 political country. It's impossible for it not to be after 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.360 everything that we've experienced, she says. 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:34.920 But I do think that Chile has that heritage, and 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:40.480 I think there is a history of fearless, creative megapunk. 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:46.600 That's Francisca Balinsuela, a Chilean singer, songwriter and founder of Gridos, 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.800 a fest. It's an all women's music festival. We'll get 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:55.560 into that a little bit later. Francisca is an artist, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.600 a feminist, and like mont la Ferte, she is inspired 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:04.080 to sue activism because of Chile's deep history. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.280 Like I think, in Chile, even the folk scene is 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.199 originally like the most punk thing. 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.760 The list of outspoken musicians from Chile is too long 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.800 to count, and by the way, yours truly was inspired 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.600 by all of them to create my first ever radio 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:21.600 show in college. 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:25.960 Whether it's speaking openly about issues about gender inequality or 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:30.640 the female experience and through this patriarchar lens right, or 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:34.040 songs that are like against the abuse of power, are 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:35.960 songs that are about revolution. 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:46.960 At inclusoso, as Morne la Ferte says, younger generations are aware, 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.320 conscious and engaged. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:54.320 One of the most infamous moments in Chilean musical activism 0:14:54.600 --> 0:15:05.800 is about the life of Victor Hara. He was murdered 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:09.920 in nineteen seventy three following a military coup that put 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.840 the dictator Augusto Pinochet into power with help from the 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:15.000 United States. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.040 But Chile's dictatorship found them threatening. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.440 The famous Folks singer Victor Harra was murdered at the 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.400 start of a brutal military rule. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.480 He was used as a warning to others speaking out 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:36.000 against Pinochet. He was one of the thousands of people 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:40.240 killed during Pinochette's reign of terror on human rights in 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.440 Chile that went on for over a decade. 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:52.880 Too Momento, it's important, Monte la Ferte says, to not 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.920 forget these moments so we don't repeat the same mistakes. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.640 Mont la Ferte ses this deeply affected her generation of 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:10.240 musicians and artists, and so did other musical heroes, as 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.680 she calls them, people like Ba. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:33.920 Gracia sal la via, quimelodios, nusoque. 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:37.720 Seigno a music yavla mas honest. 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:42.200 Taught everyone to make music that speaks from the most 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:46.640 honest part of our souls. She says. Buletta spoke up 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:52.280 from marginalized communities and documented the folklore across Chile. She 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:57.000 was a pillar of Leile, the new song movement, songs 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.960 that were influenced by folk music and lyrics that held 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.600 amplify voices that weren't being heard. 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.800 So I grew up with and poets and artists. 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:11.120 That's Francisca again. Beuleta is another major influence for both 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.080 montla Ferte and Francisca Malinsuela. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.440 It goes a ha hand in hand here, and I 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.520 think that was caught my attention when I was in 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.720 other countries and I didn't see the artistic scene being. 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.600 Committed to political or social causes. 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.520 For Francisca, as a Chilean, it was a no brainer 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:29.399 to speak up. 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.960 I try to contribute to certain change and open and 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:32.840 facilitate things. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.200 You know, and the tradition of using your platform for 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:40.000 change in Chile didn't stop during the dictatorship in the 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.560 nineteen seventies. During the twenty nineteen protests that we heard 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:48.320 about earlier, a familiar nineteen eighties song was blasted through 0:17:48.480 --> 0:18:03.680 the crowdss Brizionero's were a staple of the nineteen eighties 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:08.320 rock en Espanol movement rock in Spanish. Their lyrics were 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:13.200 hugely critical of the country's inequalities, and years after Pinochette's fall, 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:22.080 they became the soundtrack of these modern protests. Elviile de 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:26.359 los Quezovran the Dance of Those Leftover. It's from nineteen 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.480 eighty six. The song is about realizing that no matter 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.480 how hard you work, the good life is really only 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.440 for the privileged few. And during the twenty nineteen protests, 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:40.760 there was also music from the feminist group Collectibo Lastesis. 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.440 They created a song called a Rapist on Your Path, 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:53.920 Undo Lador and Tucamino. It quickly became an anthem to 0:18:54.080 --> 0:19:01.280 denounce sexual violence against women and it was heard all 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:05.480 around the world. Women started playing it and dancing to it. 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:18.159 All these decades later, the youth in Chile, they are 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.679 still resonating with that music. 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.000 Music as a vehicle to shed light on things has 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.320 always been there. There's an intimacy just me and I'm 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.040 listening it's inside of me and feel like it activates 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.960 you in a way. And then it also has the 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.800 community aspect that that happens altogether and that you belong somewhere. 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.840 Music and activism often go hand in hand because music 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:52.199 unites people, and having music that says something makes an 0:19:52.320 --> 0:20:09.640 even bigger statement. We'll be right back. Hey, we're back. 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:13.359 I'm gonna wrap up my conversations now with Chilean artists 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:20.359 Monla Ferte and Francisca Palinsuela. Like Montla Ferte, Francisca's music 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:25.240 ranges from the feminist perspective, with albums like fort Lesa 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:36.639 all about finding inner strength and self empowerment, to her 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:41.160 upcoming album Maldita, where she dives deeper into her feelings 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:53.200 of feminine rage and her own postpartum experience. Francisca's music 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:58.200 can be described as singer songwriter meets Elton John piano pop, 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:07.920 going from incredibly catchy poppy songs to heart wrenching. 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:11.440 Ballads e Laska Siene. 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:14.120 Yes. 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.200 She says her feminist rage comes from a very specific place, 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:23.360 a systemic discrimination that she herself has experienced. 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.840 For example, I was booking shows in Mexico and the 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.080 promoter was like, we have this festival, but we already 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:28.600 have one woman. 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:29.159 We don't want to. 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:33.280 Franciska was inspired to put her feminism into action in 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:39.320 twenty sixteen when she founded Ridosest, the All Latina music festival, 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:41.840 and it's also a research platform. 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:44.080 At that point, I was like, this can't be the 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:46.439 only way. It's not about me. I'm not the problem. 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:47.679 This system is a problem. 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.680 We know that women make up half of the world population, 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:56.040 but according to statistics from Ridos Fest, women represent less 0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:59.480 than twenty percent of festival lineups. 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:06.720 Still encounter behavior, comments, or practices that seem crazily antiquated 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:09.720 and limited. It's not only Chile, it's not only Mexico. 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:12.520 It's the Americas or the Spanish speaking market. 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:16.800 She was consistently turned away from labels at first, until, 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:19.000 of course, she began to do well. 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:21.720 I reached out to labels years ago and they all 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:23.480 shut the door. And then while I was successful, they 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:25.280 all approached me with horrible contracts. 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:27.480 That's when she began noticing something. 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:29.600 There were no women in the majority of rooms I 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:30.080 was going to. 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:34.320 That's when Rithosa Fest was born. The all Latina led 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:40.000 festival comprises workshops and panels dedicated to affecting real change 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:41.200 in the music industry. 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:43.520 I wanted to create an instance where we can talk 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:46.159 candidly about the issues and struggles within the music industry 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:48.200 that can be gender based or can also just be 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.800 about the fact that it's a difficult industry to navigate. 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.639 In twenty sixteen, the first iteration of the festival was 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.520 difficult to get off the ground. She faced a lot 0:22:58.560 --> 0:22:59.800 of resistance. 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.160 Everyone industry that I was inviting from not the women, 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:06.800 but in the male counterparts or promoters or sponsors or 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:07.720 even musicians. 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.040 Are my male musician friends. They were like, why would 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:11.480 I want to go listen to women complaining? 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:15.720 There was this constant notion that it wasn't an actual issue, 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:18.520 and so that's when the study and the research area 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:20.159 popped up. I was like, I have to get the 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:21.879 numbers out there because people think this is. 0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:22.800 A perspective thing. 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:26.639 Ridosa has put out some of the most comprehensive data 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:32.160 analyzing music lineups from four hundred large festivals from seven 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:36.560 different countries across Latin America and Latine events in the 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:41.080 United States, and among the more shocking findings, all female 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:45.720 bands accounted for just one percent of total bookings, with 0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:50.240 headliners slots by projects led by women making up yes, 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:54.000 zero point four percent of the headliners. 0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:56.840 When that came out, a lot of promoters in the 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.080 region did reach out and were like, we had no 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.760 idea that there were was this issue. We weren't seeing 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:05.280 the lack of diversity in our festivals. If you don't 0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:08.680 kind of force society's hands to look at those things, 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:10.560 you will have issues and they will become systemic. 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:19.000 Francisca's solution to her questions about representation was to create 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.800 a festival, But when we asked her about the future 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:25.680 and what she hopes for women across the industry, she said, 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:26.720 I get a. 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.440 Lot of invitations from festivals to do like a Ridosa 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.520 stage in a festival, and I actually tell them, I'm like, 0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.280 I prefer that you book more women, just don't make 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:36.040 a stage for them. 0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:38.560 Get them in all the stages. Don't make us a 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:40.040 small little stage on the side. 0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:43.159 Because in a perfect world we would all be equal. 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:47.080 Until then, the need to be outspoken through music is 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:51.399 going to continue. Both More and Francisca hope their platforms 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.240 will make significant changes. 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.560 I think like every new generation is even more powerful 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:00.960 and resourceful and like badass, and now people are making 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.080 music from the whole consonants of the world can kind 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:06.160 of dream bigger, and I think that is a change. 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:15.720 Coke ter de Pierrelo perroez Loki. 0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:19.359 So one tells me that there is a Ranas in 0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:22.760 her that she's tried to polish for years, but it. 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:24.000 Is who she is. 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.480 It is in her work or Macinto. 0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:35.680 So she's celebrating that Ranis by doing things like burying 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:43.920 her breast and calling out rape and femicide. Later, the 0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.920 night of the Latin Grammys twenty nineteen, she accepted the 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:52.760 award and called out words from a fellow Chilean feminist. 0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:54.960 Chile mes. 0:25:56.800 --> 0:26:07.280 Mebees Cana gril Sen Chile Chile Entro Chile La Milicia l. 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.840 Monla Ferte told me that she'd always been a feminist 0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:25.400 without even knowing that she was one. Maybe not much 0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:28.640 of a surprise to a Chilean singer in a country 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:39.959 with such a rich feminist and activist history. 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