Speaker 1: How I Suck At Dating with Denglert and Jared Haven
Speaker 1: and I heard radio podcast. Hey, welcome to an all
Speaker 1: new episode of Help I Suck At Dating. I am
Speaker 1: Jared Haven and I'll make sure to talking to my
Speaker 1: Mike this week because it always sounds better. And we
Speaker 1: have a very special guest joining us. Also, Dean will
Speaker 1: be on the line with us. Momentarily, we have Marie Peppin. Marie,
Speaker 1: how are you, Hey, I'm good. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you for being here. So obviously a
Speaker 1: lot of the Help I Second Dating listeners are Bachelor listeners.
Speaker 1: But just remind us what seasons you were on. You
Speaker 1: were on Wait a minute, let me guess you're Matt
Speaker 1: James season right, I was, yes, and then you are
Speaker 1: obviously on Paradise because you ended up leaving with Kenny. Yes. Well,
Speaker 1: how things are? How are things going right now with
Speaker 1: for you? Yeah? Everything's great. Um. I had been traveling
Speaker 1: quite a bit at the beginning of the year. I
Speaker 1: was competing in a pageant in Puerto Rico, so was
Speaker 1: splitting my time basically between Chicago and Puerto Rico. But
Speaker 1: the patches over now, so I'm full time in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Kenny and I have our place together, and yeah, things
Speaker 1: are good, very cool. Now. We want to catch up
Speaker 1: with you a little bit later on, but we do
Speaker 1: have another episode, so we have a little bit of
Speaker 1: a different format coming up. We have two episodes coming
Speaker 1: up this week, so today we're releasing it. Uh, you're
Speaker 1: probably listening to this on a Monday, and then we
Speaker 1: have our second episode, which is going to be a
Speaker 1: catch up with Mari on Thursday, so make sure you
Speaker 1: tune into that. But right now, it's gonna be hot
Speaker 1: topics because we love hot topics. It's our fair everything
Speaker 1: to talk about. So one of the hot topics this week, Marie,
Speaker 1: are you a Ben Affleck Jennifer Lopez fan? I am?
Speaker 1: You know what, I think a lot of people hate
Speaker 1: on them, but you know, I think it's just that
Speaker 1: timing place type of thing, and you know, now it's
Speaker 1: their time. I don't know who the hell hates on them,
Speaker 1: but if they do hate on them, then they're just haters.
Speaker 1: I love Dean can attest this. I love Ben Affleck
Speaker 1: and Jennifer Lopez together. I Ashley and I pretty much
Speaker 1: fanboy and fan girl over this one because Afflecks a
Speaker 1: Boston boy, so he's a local, and like he's such
Speaker 1: a die hard Boston sports fan, and like when he
Speaker 1: talks about Tom Brady, he has like this passionate inflection
Speaker 1: about him that I have, and there's like this relatability.
Speaker 1: And I also love that Affleck has had this roller
Speaker 1: coaster of not only celebrity status but a life where
Speaker 1: he's been like, you know, he catapulted to the top
Speaker 1: with Good Will Hunting and then he did all these
Speaker 1: like nineties and early two thousands action movies and everybody
Speaker 1: thought that he was never a good actor, but he
Speaker 1: just was a good looking phase and so he made
Speaker 1: movies like Paycheck or Armor Gedton and and then he
Speaker 1: and then of course he like started you know, his
Speaker 1: off his like non movies were more famous than his movies.
Speaker 1: And then he uh came out with The Town and
Speaker 1: Argo and One Best Director and was catapulted back to
Speaker 1: the top. And then he got casted as Batman, and
Speaker 1: as much as I love him as Batman, there was
Speaker 1: like mixed reviews. And then he became like, at least
Speaker 1: in the tabloids, an alcoholic. And then him and Jennifer
Speaker 1: Carter got a divorce and then nobody knew what was
Speaker 1: going to happen, and he seemed like kind of a
Speaker 1: little bit of a distant dad. And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden he started dating Jennifer Lopez, and it's like
Speaker 1: Affleck is back, and now they're freaking married. When Jared
Speaker 1: kat says these like when he goes on these tangents,
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is just interrupt him real quick,
Speaker 1: snap your fingers a few times, and he'll pop out
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, it's fun to talk about. I love
Speaker 1: the fact that Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez are freaking
Speaker 1: married now, Like it's Jennifer Lopez Affleck. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: a legal name. Oh I thought she just changed it
Speaker 1: to Affleck. Maybe she did an Affleck now, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure. But she's Puerto Rican and Puerto Rican, so
Speaker 1: you know there's that connect to and you know she's
Speaker 1: successful and happy. So I'm happy for her. And I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I was just being I was just being a
Speaker 1: little facetious. Um, I'm sorry for being late as well.
Speaker 1: You guys. It is five am in um Hawaii right now,
Speaker 1: and if it wasn't for one of our producers calling me,
Speaker 1: I would have slept until ten am. So, um, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to go ahead and say I apologize. Um,
Speaker 1: but Mary, it's good to see you. It's going to
Speaker 1: meet you. Um, I've got a question you. And this
Speaker 1: is a super off topic and this is me just
Speaker 1: being a ridiculous person right now. Didn't you just run
Speaker 1: for like Miss Petter puert Tariko or something like that. Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, I was competing in Miss World Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: Sweet and uh did you look around and see Jennifer
Speaker 1: Athleck competing in it? Because I'm sure you didn't. No,
Speaker 1: I did not. That's awesome. I mean, come on, how
Speaker 1: did it go? Can you tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: about It's good? Yeah? I mean, so I had done
Speaker 1: pageants here. I was in Miss Maryland, USA, um, and
Speaker 1: compete at Miss USA, and I thought that I was
Speaker 1: done with pageants once I decided to do Bachelor because
Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, reality TV and patents don't really
Speaker 1: go together, so I'm probably not gonna do this again.
Speaker 1: But so many people from Puerto Rico, since that's where
Speaker 1: I'm originally from, where like you should come compete here,
Speaker 1: please please please represent us all this stuff? And I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, what maybe I'll just give it
Speaker 1: one more shot. So, yeah, I went and competed for
Speaker 1: Miss Weld Puerto Rico. Ended up top seven, so it
Speaker 1: went well, and uh yeah, honestly, I'm I'm really happy
Speaker 1: with how it went because I learned a lot, grew
Speaker 1: a lot, you know, and I got to spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time being back home pretty much. So it's cool. Nice. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. I've heard a lot of good things. I've
Speaker 1: never really been out there for myself to visit, but
Speaker 1: I've heard from a lot of friends who have been
Speaker 1: there that it's an incredible place. Oh you should You
Speaker 1: and Caitlin would love it. Well, one of these days maybe, Um, Jared,
Speaker 1: how's it going over there? By the way, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that I was late. I just wanted to apologize for that.
Speaker 1: Oh you're fine, as you can hear Lois is barking
Speaker 1: in the background. Dawson was crying earlier. It's just conse nice. Well,
Speaker 1: Caitlin is sleeping four ft away from me, and she's
Speaker 1: got air PUDs, and so I don't think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be able to hear me, fortunately, thank god. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: Lois is just always freaking out, um. Yes, and of course, uh,
Speaker 1: like we talked about earlier, you want to catch up
Speaker 1: with Mari um and I want to talk more about
Speaker 1: your experience being Miss Puerto Rico because that's freaking so cool.
Speaker 1: And I've been to Puerto Rico and I love that
Speaker 1: place so much. But we do have uh once again
Speaker 1: hot topics jump into um. So my question for you
Speaker 1: guys because Ben Affleck like we I went on the
Speaker 1: tangent all right, cool, I get it, like I'm a
Speaker 1: big j LO and Ben Affleck plan. What can I say?
Speaker 1: But my question to you guys is they got married
Speaker 1: in Vegas. So, Mari, would you ever marry Kenny in Vegas?
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be such a I mean, granted,
Speaker 1: I've never met you either in person, but judging from Kenny,
Speaker 1: it feels like he would totally get married in Vegas.
Speaker 1: He totally would. He would. He's down for all the
Speaker 1: like unheard of ideas and stuff like that. I don't
Speaker 1: think I would. I think I do like the courthouse
Speaker 1: thing and just not tell anyone, But I don't know
Speaker 1: about Vegas. Well, isn't that kind of what happens in Vegas?
Speaker 1: You get? All right? I'm gonna be I'm gonna sound
Speaker 1: really stupid. It's not. Is it an annulment? What am
Speaker 1: I thinking of? Lopement? You're thinking of a lopement? Lopit?
Speaker 1: Thank you? You get eloped in Vegas? Is that kind
Speaker 1: of the same thing as going to the courtroom? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Kind of. I don't know. I just I'm not sure
Speaker 1: about the whole like they do the impersonators and like
Speaker 1: the weird themes and like, I don't know, that's not
Speaker 1: my style, that's not your style. You don't want you
Speaker 1: don't want Elvis Pressly to marry you guys, is what
Speaker 1: you're saying. No, I don't sorry. Could you imagine if
Speaker 1: Elvis married Jlo and Ben Affleck? Could you imagine being
Speaker 1: a JL just being like next in line? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that would be crazy. I don't even know. I mean,
Speaker 1: if I'm trying to put myself in that situation, like,
Speaker 1: what would I do? I just see them walk in,
Speaker 1: I'd freak out. I would freak out too. Well, so
Speaker 1: it's not quite what it's not quite well Ben and Jen,
Speaker 1: Ben and Jen does that sounds so good? That sounds
Speaker 1: so good. A benefits not quite what Beneford did. But
Speaker 1: my brother just got married last Saturday, last weekend. He
Speaker 1: proposed to his girlfriend on a Friday. They got married
Speaker 1: on a Saturday. And while they didn't go to like
Speaker 1: a traditional Vegas chapel with like Elvis getting married, they're
Speaker 1: marrying them, they did like have to do it all
Speaker 1: super quick, and so they like went to this little
Speaker 1: chapel and got their marriage license, and um, it was
Speaker 1: some guy that they had never met. His name was Tom.
Speaker 1: He was good. He kept calling himself Peeping Tom. It
Speaker 1: was a little strange, Um, but it was. It was
Speaker 1: Tom marrying me. It was so much. It was the
Speaker 1: Peeping Tom thing kind of freaked me a little bit,
Speaker 1: but it was great. He just, you know, he had
Speaker 1: no connection to the bride of the groom, but he
Speaker 1: still liked it his little thing, and um kind of
Speaker 1: went on his way. So I could see like doing
Speaker 1: the whole Vegas wedding chapel thing, as long as it
Speaker 1: wasn't like an Elvis or I don't know, something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that, A little more casual, a little more typical.
Speaker 1: I would say it would be my style maybe, unless
Speaker 1: you're like the biggest I was fan in the world
Speaker 1: who once I was marrying them, you know, could you imagine? Don't?
Speaker 1: My goodness, it makes a great story. What's the deal with? Um?
Speaker 1: You and Kenny right now? So you guys are engaged obviously,
Speaker 1: but like, is there any wedding planning going on? Um?
Speaker 1: So I just started thinking about the wedding planning and
Speaker 1: I'm already stressed out. I'm like, there's so much to do.
Speaker 1: Where do I start? And then I had this big
Speaker 1: deal onea yesterday. I was like, are you supposed to
Speaker 1: do the venue first? Are you suppys do the guest
Speaker 1: this first? But it feels weird to you the guests
Speaker 1: this first? But how do I know what kind of
Speaker 1: venue I want if I don't know how many people
Speaker 1: are going to come? Like, I don't know, It's just
Speaker 1: it's a lot, right Well, I mean Jared is gonna
Speaker 1: guy to ask for that because he's kind of been
Speaker 1: in that same situation at some point right here, Well,
Speaker 1: wedding planning, Yeah, it's listen, don't stress over it. It's
Speaker 1: you know. I was actually listening to a podcast about
Speaker 1: a guy dying and uh, he said on his deathbed,
Speaker 1: he was like so much wasted time, which is quite
Speaker 1: sad when you really think about it. I know, listen,
Speaker 1: hold on. There's a moral to this story, which is
Speaker 1: on It's a sad story, but on your deathbed, you
Speaker 1: the last thing you want to say is so much
Speaker 1: wasted time. So my advice to you, Mary is to
Speaker 1: not stress over that you're If you guys do end
Speaker 1: up getting married, which sounds like you are, which is fantastic,
Speaker 1: don't stress over wedding planning. Oh my are you guys?
Speaker 1: I mean we might as well just dive into it
Speaker 1: right now. So you're you're not engaged? Correct? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you are engaged? Oh my god. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: that's right. Okay, so you guys are engaged, but you
Speaker 1: have not like really specifically talked about wedding planning until
Speaker 1: right now. You're just getting into it. Yeah. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: with the whole pageant and everything, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you can't be married if you're going to compete in
Speaker 1: a mispageant, so we have to wait until afterwards to
Speaker 1: find out if I win or not. And then since
Speaker 1: I didn't win, now we can actually start planning and
Speaker 1: you know, doing all that kind of stuff. So that
Speaker 1: wouldn't you rather be in a Mimsis pageant? Anyways? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not too sure. I think I'm done.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a lot of work. Yeah. Well, I've
Speaker 1: heard Kalen talk about it a little bit too. She
Speaker 1: hasn't been like there any like international stuff, but obviously
Speaker 1: in missed North Carolina, and she always have mentioned how
Speaker 1: stressful and how time consuming and how all of that
Speaker 1: stuff it is. So I can definitely, um, at least
Speaker 1: empathize with you a little bit there. But that's good
Speaker 1: that now it's it's over and so now you guys
Speaker 1: are planning and now you're gonna make the guest list
Speaker 1: before everything else. But I do want to say, um,
Speaker 1: watching Bachelor and Paradise last season, you guys were definitely
Speaker 1: one of my favorite couples because it just seemed like
Speaker 1: you two, um, you just you guys. You guys seem
Speaker 1: win more natural around each other than a lot of people,
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, you weren't forcing anything,
Speaker 1: and there obviously we're a little bit hiccups along the way,
Speaker 1: but like what good love story doesn't have if you
Speaker 1: hiccups along the way. Anyways, you know I agree, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you. It's nice to hear that because everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: my favorite couples are the ones that got together day
Speaker 1: one and stay together. That's so boring. Come on, I
Speaker 1: know that's real life either, Like, in real life, relationships
Speaker 1: aren't like that. So you know, I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of our story too. Exactly. People seem to forget that
Speaker 1: in real life. There are issues that people face in
Speaker 1: regular relationships, and it's not just like they got together
Speaker 1: day one and that there together day thirty five. It's like,
Speaker 1: come on, let's let's have a little bit of realism
Speaker 1: with exactly. Yeah, um, but no, I respect that. I
Speaker 1: love watching you guys, Kenny. I always told Kalen whenever
Speaker 1: when every Kidney came on the screen, I was like,
Speaker 1: that's the hottest man I've ever seen in my entire
Speaker 1: life for that guy, because he's like a pretty good
Speaker 1: looking man. Thank you. Yeah, I think so too. It
Speaker 1: looks good at the table. Oh nice, nice, Well, don't
Speaker 1: tell myself have a shirt on back from I know
Speaker 1: we did. We did the news interview thinking for this
Speaker 1: charity event that we're doing, so we came straight from that.
Speaker 1: So that's why he's what's it's for special Olympics? Oh
Speaker 1: very nice. What are you guys doing? They're doing a
Speaker 1: duck derby. Every year they released like a million ducks
Speaker 1: into the Chicago River and each duck has a good
Speaker 1: number on it. So you purchased a duck, you donate
Speaker 1: to get a duck, and whoever's duck wins, like gets
Speaker 1: the end first wins like a new car or something
Speaker 1: like that. Oh, that's so cute. That's awesome that you
Speaker 1: guys are a part of that. Yeah, we love Social Olympics. Well, Jared,
Speaker 1: do you want to get into this more of these
Speaker 1: topical headlines for us? Yeah? So, uh, Maria, you're a
Speaker 1: Kardashian fan at all? Um, you know what, I not
Speaker 1: the show. I don't keep up with the show, but
Speaker 1: I am a huge fan of the family in general.
Speaker 1: So we talked about the Kardashians a lot here because
Speaker 1: we're dating podcasts and you know, it's just two guys
Speaker 1: talking about Kardashians stuf. You know, it's a little juicy,
Speaker 1: especially like apparently this new show and Hulu is really good.
Speaker 1: Ashley Craves watching every new episode. I think it just ended,
Speaker 1: but like every Thursday they dropped a new episode, and
Speaker 1: she said, how much in the news show is better? Anyway,
Speaker 1: there's news coming out that have you heard about this
Speaker 1: Tristan and Chloe drama that's going on? Yes, I have.
Speaker 1: Do you know exactly kind of what's going on, because
Speaker 1: I'm still a little confused because I never know what's
Speaker 1: happening in real time or what's being aired on the
Speaker 1: show that actually had happened six months ago. So they
Speaker 1: were they're having another baby via surrogate, right, correct. I
Speaker 1: just want to explain this for the listeners in case
Speaker 1: they're not up to par Alright, So, Chloe, So Tristan Thompson,
Speaker 1: NBA player, dated Chloe Kardashian. They had one kid together, Okay,
Speaker 1: then he cheated for like the second time, several times.
Speaker 1: This guy's cheated on. She broke up with them, then
Speaker 1: they got back together. Then it was announced that Tristan
Speaker 1: and Chloe were having another baby via surrogate. Well, you
Speaker 1: skipped a step there, because I got much together. After
Speaker 1: they got back together a second time, it came out
Speaker 1: that he had also had another child, like a couple
Speaker 1: of months prior with someone else. Oh god, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And then I'm also still a little confused about what
Speaker 1: their status is right now, Like I know that they're
Speaker 1: having this child, which is due supposedly like any minute now,
Speaker 1: but they're not dating and as of late, he was
Speaker 1: in Greece partying with some other chick, like a few
Speaker 1: nights ago. All right, here's Ashley a quick recap. Ready,
Speaker 1: she knows everything to say that. You obviously don't listen
Speaker 1: to me and I talk because I'm very confused because
Speaker 1: sometimes when you explained the Kardashian Oh my god, can
Speaker 1: you believe what happened with was lally interested last week?
Speaker 1: And you were like you, I told you the whole thing,
Speaker 1: but you also said that it was last week on
Speaker 1: the show, but it happened back in December, so this
Speaker 1: is all real time? Yes, okay, was breaking on instag
Speaker 1: Graham last week breaking on Instagram? Got it? Okay? So
Speaker 1: what is the status between Tristan and Chloe right now? Well,
Speaker 1: they apparently hated each other as of you know, December
Speaker 1: and on. But she why are we talking about December?
Speaker 1: It's July. This is what confuses me because the show wrapped,
Speaker 1: like the show is in delayed time. It's just like
Speaker 1: six months delayed. That's what the show time or is
Speaker 1: it real time? In real time? We just found out
Speaker 1: in real time that this baby is do that was
Speaker 1: implanted in the surrogate in November? But when did Chloe
Speaker 1: find out that Tristan cheated on her in December? And
Speaker 1: when was the surrogate planted November? Okay, but why is
Speaker 1: it just coming out now because they're just announcing that
Speaker 1: the mean because the baby's about to be born. This
Speaker 1: is my point. You're going to have a baby be
Speaker 1: born and be like and they have They're like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to explain the situation now. They're like, they're like,
Speaker 1: now we will explain the situation because Chloe's about to
Speaker 1: have a new baby. But this was a secret for
Speaker 1: like six months. Yes, got it? Okay, this is that
Speaker 1: was the because you understand the drama here is that
Speaker 1: the surrogate was riding it a month before Chloe found
Speaker 1: out that Triston was cheating again. Yes, of course bad timing.
Speaker 1: So my question, so there are they're not together anymore? No?
Speaker 1: Do you know like she took him back twice after
Speaker 1: cheating ship and now well, I mean maybe one big time.
Speaker 1: But do you know that before the other baby, before
Speaker 1: True was born, literally Chloe found out that Tristan had
Speaker 1: cheated on her a day or two before True was born.
Speaker 1: True is the baby between Chloe and triesting, Yes, the
Speaker 1: one that already is like three. So what's up with
Speaker 1: this man and having horrible timing that I don't understand?
Speaker 1: How are you so bad? How are you saying? What's
Speaker 1: up with the bad timing? Why is Tristan? Why does
Speaker 1: he want? Does he keep getting caught right after like
Speaker 1: you know, and it's amazing, it's crazy. Yeah, just doesn't care.
Speaker 1: Another thing is he loves the bed control. It's gone, okay,
Speaker 1: bye bye. Thank you so much for the recap. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Actually, she knows all thing Kardashian. So
Speaker 1: my question for you, so, yeah, the bad timing thing
Speaker 1: is weird. How does this keep coming out? I think
Speaker 1: he just doesn't care. I think he probably strings Chloe
Speaker 1: along and it's like, oh yeah, it's fine, I'll be
Speaker 1: there for you. We're going to have a family. And
Speaker 1: then like the next day he's like whatever, and he
Speaker 1: does whatever he wants. That's what it seems like, because
Speaker 1: I mean, the baby is about to be born and
Speaker 1: he's out partying with other girls in grease right now.
Speaker 1: So so he's in Greece right now, partying with other girls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: literally like two days ago, I think it was. This
Speaker 1: guy seems like a douche bag. Why is Chloe continuing
Speaker 1: to get back together with him? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean I've read online that people were like, Oh, she
Speaker 1: doesn't care, she just wants to have her she wants
Speaker 1: her kids to have the same parents, and it's like
Speaker 1: more that kind of thing. But I don't, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I obviously get that you want to try to stick
Speaker 1: together for the kids, But my god, at some point,
Speaker 1: is it even healthy for the family if the mom
Speaker 1: and dad are constantly fighting and the dad is always cheating.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, yeah, no way. Imagine when they
Speaker 1: get older, they're mega famous, they're going to see all
Speaker 1: this stuff about their parents. I was gonna say, let's
Speaker 1: be honest, it's not because they're gonna have a regular
Speaker 1: childhood anyways, you know what I mean. But not not
Speaker 1: to not to like give a pass to Tristan because
Speaker 1: he sounds like a kind of a diuchebag, But it
Speaker 1: does seem like these kids are kind of destined for
Speaker 1: a lifetime of that. We're like, we're never really gonna
Speaker 1: have any idea of what it's going to be like,
Speaker 1: because they're like the most uber famous family of all time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I agree. I
Speaker 1: mean there's no way to sell to them. Really well.
Speaker 1: My question to you guys is do you think because
Speaker 1: this begs the question, Chloe keeps going back to Tristan,
Speaker 1: and even in this article I was reading from uh
Speaker 1: E News, she mentions that she has zero doubt that
Speaker 1: Tristan will step up after the second baby arrives. And
Speaker 1: it's like, how can you have zero doubt? I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe he's a great father. I'm not denying this, but
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that he's not a good partner. So
Speaker 1: I questioned to you guys, is do you think you
Speaker 1: could ever get back together someone after you found out
Speaker 1: that they were cheating on you? You know what, now,
Speaker 1: I say no, And I've actually been in that situation before,
Speaker 1: and um, I didn't have definitive proof in the beginning,
Speaker 1: and so I took him back and then of course
Speaker 1: it kept happening, and I was like no, it's like
Speaker 1: my parents divorced due to that, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to stand for this, and no, any
Speaker 1: any partner who cheats on their partners, like low level
Speaker 1: to me, So can I ask you if you're willing
Speaker 1: to share, obviously, and only if you're willing to share,
Speaker 1: how did you find out that it was happening? So
Speaker 1: the first instance was actually we were at like a
Speaker 1: what is that called a house swarming party for a
Speaker 1: mutual friend, and um, I actually ended up leaving, going
Speaker 1: to bed early and found out the next day through
Speaker 1: like this first Oh he hooked up with so and
Speaker 1: so while you were gone, no proof, nobody saw it,
Speaker 1: nobody heard it, and of course he denied it. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, maybe people are making it up, maybe
Speaker 1: they saw wrong, maybe people were drunk, you know, excuses. Um,
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's how that happened. And then how did
Speaker 1: you end up confirming that happened or was it always
Speaker 1: just the I got feeling that you had? No I
Speaker 1: actually ended up talking to the person the girl that
Speaker 1: they said yeah, oh god. Yeah. We were together at
Speaker 1: that point for like six months, so pretty early on.
Speaker 1: And well, for the record, I too would not take
Speaker 1: anyone back I think you did. I mean, I, I,
Speaker 1: like Mari, have made that mistake in my early ages.
Speaker 1: But man, being cheated on is literally just one of
Speaker 1: the worst things ever, like it just it sucks for them,
Speaker 1: It sucks for you, It sucks for the other person
Speaker 1: that they cheated on you with, Like it sucks for
Speaker 1: everyone involved. It's like, why would you just not just
Speaker 1: don't do it. It's so much easier to not have to.
Speaker 1: I think for me personally, it would be so hard
Speaker 1: to get over. It would be so hard to get
Speaker 1: that thought out of my mind, you know, just even
Speaker 1: thinking about them being intimate with someone, kissing someone. And
Speaker 1: then furthermore, every time they go out without me, there's
Speaker 1: to that trust and it's going to be in the
Speaker 1: back of my head, a little voice saying to happen
Speaker 1: before it can happen again. Uh so that would be
Speaker 1: really and then it would just cause resentment and it
Speaker 1: would cause me being angry at them. I could see
Speaker 1: it play out right in front of me, even if
Speaker 1: I thought, oh I can move past it, we'd be okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you because even after that relationship, like it still
Speaker 1: affects you, because I mean I had tried to like
Speaker 1: talk to other people after that, and that was still
Speaker 1: always in the back of my mind, like, oh, what
Speaker 1: if he's going to do the same thing. But if
Speaker 1: he's talking to other people like it it sticks with
Speaker 1: you all. I mean, now I'm a much better place,
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that. But yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of deal breakers, but cheating is
Speaker 1: definitely number one. Have you ever been cheated on? I
Speaker 1: feel like you have not been cheated on in your life? No,
Speaker 1: I mean technically, like my ex girlfriend like kissed another
Speaker 1: guy one night when she was out. It was like
Speaker 1: he pretty much he kissed her and then it was
Speaker 1: like this awkwardness where she like it was like maybe
Speaker 1: like a good couple of seconds where they kissed, and
Speaker 1: then she was like, what the hell am I doing?
Speaker 1: So it was like it wasn't really cheating, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like a such a like a
Speaker 1: quick mistake. Okay, that's a good question as well. Would
Speaker 1: that constitute is cheating? So I was just gonna say
Speaker 1: everyone's definition of cheating and what's acceptable it not? It's different, right,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know because from I remember, she was
Speaker 1: so upset, told me the truth. She was very honest
Speaker 1: with me, um, and she told me exactly what happened.
Speaker 1: I believed her that this guy, douchebag McGee, uh, like
Speaker 1: they were drunk at a party were you know, in college,
Speaker 1: and he leaned into as her and then she like
Speaker 1: kind of didn't. She was pretty honest that like she
Speaker 1: kissed him back for like a second and then immediately
Speaker 1: was like what the hell am I doing? And then
Speaker 1: of course like cry hysterically. And we were dating for
Speaker 1: a couple of maybe like a year at this point. So, UM,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would really constitute that is
Speaker 1: cheating because it was accounts. I don't know, what do
Speaker 1: you guys think, Well, I'm just trying to put myself
Speaker 1: in your in your position, I do think it counts
Speaker 1: as cheating. I will say though, if someone approached me
Speaker 1: like I don't even want to say Kalin because I
Speaker 1: don't even want to put that image in my head.
Speaker 1: Like let's say I was dating someone and they came
Speaker 1: to me and said, exactly what you just said happened
Speaker 1: to them. I that's like, I respect the fact that
Speaker 1: they did it and they came and told you right away.
Speaker 1: And Marie's case, it sounds like there wasn't like ownership
Speaker 1: of their actions, and that's what would really piss me off,
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, they're dodging that what what
Speaker 1: what might have happened? Um this whole Tristan and Thompson
Speaker 1: and Chloe heard ashion thing, didn't Tristan like deny it
Speaker 1: for the longest time, and it's like, look like, if
Speaker 1: I'm if I'm going to get over this shitty situation,
Speaker 1: I need you to own up to what you did.
Speaker 1: And if you don't own up to it, then I'll
Speaker 1: never get over it. So like, just tell me the
Speaker 1: truth and then we'll work on for giving each other
Speaker 1: for it. But like, if you're denying it like I
Speaker 1: am not, there's not in a million years while I
Speaker 1: ever get over this exactly. No. I mean I also
Speaker 1: think it's like insult to injury because not only did
Speaker 1: you cheat on me, but now you're lying to me
Speaker 1: about it. That just makes it ten times worse because
Speaker 1: now the trust is double broken. And back to whether
Speaker 1: or not that's cheating, I do think that kissing someone
Speaker 1: else is cheating because if not, that kind of opens
Speaker 1: the gateway in my mind for oh well, we maybe
Speaker 1: became a little bit more intimate than kissing, but it
Speaker 1: was just for a second and then I stopped it
Speaker 1: and I felt bad, you know. But it's also so
Speaker 1: hard because I've I guess, I guess technically speaking, but
Speaker 1: then you're labeled as a cheater, like that small instance,
Speaker 1: you're a cheater. It's hard because man, that's such a
Speaker 1: it's such a shy labeled to have on you. You know,
Speaker 1: like don't do it, but like it's you're absolutely right,
Speaker 1: don't do it, obviously first and foremost, but also human
Speaker 1: beings just make mistakes. And I think about an instance
Speaker 1: like that, and I hate to harp on this one
Speaker 1: moment because you know it's but like anybody out there
Speaker 1: who just like has a second of weakness, and it's
Speaker 1: like and then they're like completely honest about it and
Speaker 1: they tell you the truth and you believe them. And
Speaker 1: then even after that, like I think about myself now,
Speaker 1: granted I was in my early twenties, so of course
Speaker 1: I was like I'm so mad at you, blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and I was upset, But like, I feel like now,
Speaker 1: at thirty three, i'd be able to see that's something
Speaker 1: I think I'd be able to move on from. No way,
Speaker 1: I swear if it was like because if somebody leaned
Speaker 1: in and kissed like again, I don't even want to
Speaker 1: think about I guess Ashley in this instance, but I
Speaker 1: will for the sake of the podcast, if somebody leaned in.
Speaker 1: If Ashley was just like having fun then with her
Speaker 1: friends and she was just being Ashley and it was
Speaker 1: all fun and then some dude leaning and kissed her
Speaker 1: and she had like a second before she like pushed away.
Speaker 1: M hmm. I don't know't be upset, but I think
Speaker 1: I could understand where it's like, yeah, you just had
Speaker 1: you had a moment, and like it wasn't you didn't
Speaker 1: want to do it. You weren't thinking about cheating. It's
Speaker 1: not like you know, you were looking at this person
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, like I wish I had them
Speaker 1: instead of Jared. I think it was just more of
Speaker 1: like a moment. I don't know, it's hard. I mean
Speaker 1: I can understand that perspective. I think it's important for
Speaker 1: couples to have that communication, like in the beginning of
Speaker 1: the relationship, like what is cheating to you? What is
Speaker 1: not cheating to you? Because some people also there's like
Speaker 1: emotional cheating, and then there's like online cheating or like
Speaker 1: flirting with people on I don't know, on Twitter or
Speaker 1: into whatever. So there's so many different scenarios where it
Speaker 1: could be like where where is that line? I think
Speaker 1: that's what people need to establish. Yeah, no, I agree,
Speaker 1: And Jared, I just gotta say, there's no way that
Speaker 1: actually was shed on you because you're you. I says,
Speaker 1: did you like lose ten pounds or something? You look
Speaker 1: better than everything? Just shaved your shaved your beard or something. Dude,
Speaker 1: Ashley said the exact same thing because I shaved yesterday
Speaker 1: and she's like, you look like that, you're you look
Speaker 1: you look again? This is great? Do you do you again?
Speaker 1: It sucks like putting yourself in the sypothetical scenario. But
Speaker 1: but does having a kid kind of give um? Because
Speaker 1: like bringing back to clothe interest and is having a
Speaker 1: kid kind of like give not like like more of
Speaker 1: a leash to do things that are wrong, but like
Speaker 1: it gives you obviously more of a reason to be together. Right, So,
Speaker 1: like does having a kid like maybe like allow for
Speaker 1: more forgiveness on certain things? Um, that's probably does because
Speaker 1: it's you know, inserting a kid just it does. It
Speaker 1: does change things obviously because it's no longer just you
Speaker 1: and this partner. It's it's you know, it takes the
Speaker 1: whole family dynamic to a new level because it's not
Speaker 1: just you two anymore. There's three of you, and it's
Speaker 1: really this core group. Because I was thinking about it yesterday,
Speaker 1: you know, when um Ashley and I were talking about it,
Speaker 1: and when I think of you know, even even somewhat
Speaker 1: to this day, when somebody says your family, like who's
Speaker 1: your family, Like, well, my mom, my dad, my sister
Speaker 1: bought a batah blah. But then now and moving forward,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like, well, who's your family, Well it's Ashley,
Speaker 1: it's Dawson, and that it's a big transition in my mind.
Speaker 1: And because when I was I was talking to Ashley
Speaker 1: about this, When I think of my dad's family, I
Speaker 1: think of me. I think of my sister, I think
Speaker 1: of my mom. You know, I don't think of my grandparents,
Speaker 1: his parents, or his or my aunts and uncles. I think, like, no,
Speaker 1: we're his family, where his most important people in his life.
Speaker 1: But then I think about like when he grew up
Speaker 1: with his sisters and brothers and like and then his parents,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, there was obviously a switch in
Speaker 1: his life at some point saying you know this, there's
Speaker 1: still my family. But like when I'm describing my family.
Speaker 1: This is my family, and I feel like I'm going
Speaker 1: through that moment right now. Any Who so that does,
Speaker 1: I feel like probably would breed more forgiveness for both
Speaker 1: of us, because it is like this just core that
Speaker 1: we don't want to disrupt. I've got friends that both
Speaker 1: men and women, who have either been cheated on or
Speaker 1: the relationship just wasn't a healthy one, but they kept
Speaker 1: going back and the reasoning was, oh, well, I want
Speaker 1: to keep my family together. The reasoning was because they
Speaker 1: don't want to affect the kid in a negative way.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I mean, hey, I understand that, but
Speaker 1: you also got to do what's right for you. But like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't have a kid, so I
Speaker 1: can't really speak to that, but just from what the
Speaker 1: friends that I had that do and have been in
Speaker 1: those situations, it's always about like, well, no, even though
Speaker 1: this person cheated on me or did this to me,
Speaker 1: this is my family and I want to keep it together. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Jared, you make a really interesting point too, because
Speaker 1: you're right like when I think of my family, I
Speaker 1: think of my siblings and my parents. I don't think
Speaker 1: about my aunts and my uncles, And it's just really
Speaker 1: it's when you say that, it's like really interesting because
Speaker 1: like my brother just had a baby, so now I'm
Speaker 1: an uncle, but like my uncle's I would never like
Speaker 1: obviously they're your family, but like you never think about
Speaker 1: them as such, at least like your core nucleus of
Speaker 1: a family. I don't know if that's so interesting to
Speaker 1: think about, yeah, because I mean, as long as you
Speaker 1: guys keep going, like your core nucleus family is calin,
Speaker 1: you know. And then if you guys have kids one
Speaker 1: day and that changes things, you know, and Mary same thing,
Speaker 1: Like you guys your wedding planning with Kenny right now.
Speaker 1: And so I feel like there comes a transition in
Speaker 1: all our lives, luckily hopefully knock on wood, where we're
Speaker 1: able to you know, have a life with someone and
Speaker 1: share life with someone. But that changes a dynamic of things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't think you necessarily have to be married
Speaker 1: for that to change, because for me, I actually kind
Speaker 1: of noticed this once I moved to Chicago, um and
Speaker 1: I had to fill out you know, like change all
Speaker 1: my residency stuff, medical stuff and all that, and I
Speaker 1: started putting Kenny as my emergency contact and it's a
Speaker 1: big deal. Yeah, Mary, let me ask you this. When
Speaker 1: you when you put Kenny as your emergency contact, do
Speaker 1: you have to look up his phone number or do
Speaker 1: you have it memorized. I have to look it up.
Speaker 1: I know the first three digits are seven a weight.
Speaker 1: But Calen memorized my phone number like six months into
Speaker 1: us dating, and I like, it really kicked my button
Speaker 1: to gear and I was like, holy crap, I gotta
Speaker 1: memorize it. And I go in and out of knowing
Speaker 1: it and not knowing it, but generally I get it,
Speaker 1: Like I get it like eighty percent a time. But like,
Speaker 1: when's the last time you re memorized that you needed
Speaker 1: to memorize a phone number? Doesn't really happen anymore? You
Speaker 1: know you always have your phone on you? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: But it's scary because every once in a while I
Speaker 1: think about, like, oh my god, what if I get
Speaker 1: stranded and my phone dies and there's no one around.
Speaker 1: What do I do? Like, I know my mom's phone number,
Speaker 1: but that's it. She lives in Germany right now, so
Speaker 1: she's not going to help me. She's not much. She
Speaker 1: still puts her dad as emergency contact. It's a sore subject.
Speaker 1: He's a doctor, so kind of makes sense. I'm kidding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is a doctor. I get I own a coffee shop.
Speaker 1: It's quite different. All right, Well, we do have another
Speaker 1: hot topic that I want to get into, and then
Speaker 1: we do want to catch up with Mari. First, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a short break. All right, welcome back to
Speaker 1: help I suck at dating. We have Mari here. So, Marie,
Speaker 1: like we were talking about before, you were Miss Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: That sounded really done. During that eating for Miss Putoca,
Speaker 1: I didn't win, but were competing, Okay, so you were
Speaker 1: also so you have a lot of steak in. Is
Speaker 1: it Miss America? No? What is it? Because you're also
Speaker 1: your marketing director? Uh? And you were were you were missing?
Speaker 1: So yes, you were competing for Miss Puerto Rico. But
Speaker 1: if I'm very quickly, you were also Miss Maryland. Is
Speaker 1: that correct? Yeah? So it was Miss Maryland USA. So
Speaker 1: I competed. Okay, Is Miss America a thing or is
Speaker 1: that something different? No? It is. There are two different
Speaker 1: pageants though, So there's Miss America and Miss Usa. Okay,
Speaker 1: got it? And you were competing in Miss Usa. Correct? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you were Miss Maryland and you're competing for Miss
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. But how did you How were you able
Speaker 1: to compete for two different I mean, I know Puerto
Speaker 1: Rico is what is it exactly considered? It's not a state,
Speaker 1: but it's a territory as of right now. But they're
Speaker 1: completely unrelated. So I was Miss Maryland back in UM
Speaker 1: and then I competed for Miss World Puerto Rico. So
Speaker 1: two completely different things. Oh, very cool, Miss World. That's insane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got a question for you more if you were
Speaker 1: to compete in Miss America and it could have been
Speaker 1: the same for Puerto Rico as well. Um. And the
Speaker 1: only reason I asked this is because Kaitlin and I
Speaker 1: talked about it sometimes as well. If there was a
Speaker 1: talent portion, which there is not in Miss U, I say,
Speaker 1: what would your talent have been? I would dance? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like to dance, YEA what type of dance? Um?
Speaker 1: I mean I do like ballroom stuff, salsa metting it,
Speaker 1: you know, like the Latin stuff. Um. But I did
Speaker 1: a little tiny bit of like ballet, like intro ballet,
Speaker 1: So I guess I could also maybe do like a
Speaker 1: contemporary type of thing. Do you and Kenny ever go dancing. No,
Speaker 1: Kenny cannot dance at all. So because you guys, I
Speaker 1: imagine you. I could totally imagine you guys as like
Speaker 1: Mr and Mrs Smith just like having this sexy sultress
Speaker 1: Latin dance together. Like, kid, you're such a beautiful couple,
Speaker 1: and like you're so good looking and just like you
Speaker 1: guys look like you'd be the stars of an action movie.
Speaker 1: So I could totally see that, and it's I need
Speaker 1: that to happen. So I really just need Kenny to
Speaker 1: learn how to dance so you guys can do this together. Well,
Speaker 1: the good news is that he's open to learning. He
Speaker 1: told me, you know, if I were to like sit
Speaker 1: down with him and teach him that he would do it.
Speaker 1: But if there's any ever any like karaoke, like dancing
Speaker 1: at a party. He didn't want to dance when we're
Speaker 1: filming Paradise, Like he's so against it. I think it's
Speaker 1: because he knows that he's not very good at it.
Speaker 1: That's pretty funny. I remember so my brother who I
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, who got married. He said that his wife's
Speaker 1: one stipulation was that if she marries him, he has
Speaker 1: to dance whenever she wants to dance, and my brother
Speaker 1: is like the most introverted, like shy person, and to
Speaker 1: see them dancing on the night of their wedding was
Speaker 1: hilarious because my brother is not a dancer at all
Speaker 1: and like this girl and she I love her to death.
Speaker 1: She's a great girl. I'm so happy they're married. Um,
Speaker 1: she just has zero shame, like just dances her heart
Speaker 1: out and it's the most respectable, most admirable thing. And
Speaker 1: then to see my brother trying to keep up with
Speaker 1: her is like one of the funniest things because he's
Speaker 1: like holding true to his promise of like trying to
Speaker 1: dance with there. But like that so sweet. It's very sweet.
Speaker 1: It's very sweet, and I'm very happy for them, but like,
Speaker 1: you can't, you can't keep up with this girl. She's
Speaker 1: like a dancing machine. And my brother, who is not
Speaker 1: a dancer and has never rhythm whatsoever at all, is
Speaker 1: like trying to keep up with her. And it's like
Speaker 1: that's and it's funny too. I was sitting on the
Speaker 1: couch the whole time because like we're you know, and
Speaker 1: we were like at this weird club and it was
Speaker 1: like a post party and I'm like sitting on the
Speaker 1: couch watching my brother dance, and I'm like, I'm such
Speaker 1: a schmuck just sitting here watching my brother who can't
Speaker 1: dance dance and I should be up there dancing with them.
Speaker 1: But it is what it is. I don't know. Dancing
Speaker 1: is tricky. If you don't have it, you don't have it.
Speaker 1: And I one of the people that don't have it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of worries me. I mean, he
Speaker 1: can slow dance, so our wedding will be a problem
Speaker 1: in that regard. But I would love to do, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we will do of this
Speaker 1: sort of Smith style dance, like a surprise performance kind
Speaker 1: of thing. But I don't know. We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: start working on it now. I gotta admit I'm shocked
Speaker 1: Kenny can't dance because he seems like he's got rhythm
Speaker 1: just looking at him. I great dance. No. No, there's
Speaker 1: a reason his favorite genre of music is yacht rock,
Speaker 1: and it's because you don't really need a lot of
Speaker 1: rhythm to enjoy it rock. Yeah, what the hell is that?
Speaker 1: You know? Like Jimmy Buffett, like Margaritaville type of listening
Speaker 1: type of stuff, Yeah. I think it's because Kenny looks
Speaker 1: like he could be in a Magic Mike or Chip
Speaker 1: and Dale show. I think that's why Dean and I
Speaker 1: just assume he knows how to give a lap dance,
Speaker 1: you know what. He has not given anyone that will
Speaker 1: be his task tonight or today. Well that's awesome. I'm
Speaker 1: glad we are assisting in that department. Uh. So you
Speaker 1: guys just recently celebrated your one year anniversary because you
Speaker 1: left Paradise together. So how has the past year been
Speaker 1: and did you guys do anything for your anniversary? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the past year has been kind of crazy. So we
Speaker 1: got engaged how to be a secret for like three
Speaker 1: ish months, um, and ever since we were able to
Speaker 1: be public, I spent most of my time here. I
Speaker 1: was going back and forth. I lived in Maryland at
Speaker 1: the time, so it was kind of a long distance
Speaker 1: for a few months, and then around December, I was
Speaker 1: here basically all the time. Uh. And we were at
Speaker 1: that point just waiting for my lease end, which ended
Speaker 1: in February of this year, so um as soon as
Speaker 1: it ended. Actually, his lease ended like two weeks before minded,
Speaker 1: so it was weird coincidental timing. Um. But our leases
Speaker 1: ended them then we were able to sign a new
Speaker 1: lease on a new apartment here in Chicago, so moved
Speaker 1: in right away and it's been great. I mean, I
Speaker 1: ended up signing up to do the paget because he
Speaker 1: told me that I should. I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was hesitant, and I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm going to spend so much time on this, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be away lots of money, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And he was like, no, if you want to do it, like,
Speaker 1: I'll support you, I want you to do it. So um,
Speaker 1: I agreed to do it, and then I spent like
Speaker 1: five months traveling between here in Puerto Rico. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a wild ride, but it's been nice. It's
Speaker 1: been cool to have someone that you just get along
Speaker 1: so well with and that everything's easy with. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: I think one of the most important things that a
Speaker 1: Bachelor specific couple can do after their time on the
Speaker 1: show together if they really wanted to work. I think
Speaker 1: moving in together within the first year is pretty paramount,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, you guys did it
Speaker 1: well because you guys waited what five or six months
Speaker 1: or whatever, it is. Um so that what you can
Speaker 1: decide that you actually like each other and then moving
Speaker 1: in together is like, that's that's honestly the best. And
Speaker 1: if you guys had it moved in together after your
Speaker 1: leases were up in February or whenever you said, I
Speaker 1: think that would have been a big mistake. So kudos
Speaker 1: to you guys for making it work. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, I mean it was a little nerve
Speaker 1: racking because he had never lived with a woman before,
Speaker 1: I lived with a partner or really ever been in
Speaker 1: like a serious relationship. Um, So I was like kind
Speaker 1: of nervous in that regard, just thinking like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: what if he doesn't like living with someone, what if
Speaker 1: you want to do by himself like out? But it's
Speaker 1: been good. Were there any adjustments when you guys moved in,
Speaker 1: Like was he a slob and you're a clean freak
Speaker 1: or the opposite or anything like that. No, I mean
Speaker 1: I think we're both pretty clean. I think the only
Speaker 1: thing is I shed hair like crazy. So the bathroom
Speaker 1: there's usually always a lot of hair on the floor sogging. Oh,
Speaker 1: I know, it's terrible. Um And for him, I mean
Speaker 1: I got rid of all of his kitchen stuff because
Speaker 1: it just was not I love to cook, I spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time in the kitchen and I need
Speaker 1: nice tools. So I got rid of all his kitchen
Speaker 1: stuff and got, you know, brought over all my nicer stuff,
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, I think that's pretty much it. I
Speaker 1: got a question for you guys, because I actually and
Speaker 1: I will not really, but we had a differing opinion
Speaker 1: about how often one should wash the sheets because when
Speaker 1: I was living alone, I washed it a certain amount
Speaker 1: of times, and then when I lived with Ashley, she's
Speaker 1: found out and she said, excuse me, how many times
Speaker 1: have you washed your sheets? And I said this many times,
Speaker 1: and she's like, you're disgusting. And so I have learned
Speaker 1: since hand how many times you should wash sheets per
Speaker 1: weeks or months or so on and so forth. To
Speaker 1: my question to you folks, without me telling you my timeline,
Speaker 1: how often do you wash your bed sheets? I think
Speaker 1: you're washing ours like every two weeks or so. I
Speaker 1: would say, Calin changes our bed sheets once a week,
Speaker 1: but pre Kalin, I was changing my bed sheets twice
Speaker 1: a year. I would say, Okay, I'm not that bad.
Speaker 1: I was changing it probably once maybe a month. It
Speaker 1: might take me like five weeks to wash my sheets.
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me, you're jed, you're some weeks after
Speaker 1: moving out of the house. You there wasn't one year
Speaker 1: where you only change his sheets twice, because I know,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm sure on average maybe it was once
Speaker 1: a month, but come on, there had to have been
Speaker 1: one year where you only changed them twice. There might
Speaker 1: have been stretches where it was like maybe there was
Speaker 1: a couple of months in there. But it's also because
Speaker 1: it's only like, well, okay, there's also you know, we're
Speaker 1: all in relationships. Obviously we're very happy, which is nice.
Speaker 1: Nobody else shares the bed. But I'm sure we've been
Speaker 1: in moments where we've had one bed and we maybe
Speaker 1: have been single, and there may have been more than
Speaker 1: one person in a bed with us over the course
Speaker 1: of months, and so of course you've got to make
Speaker 1: sure that like that's sanitary. But like, if there's been
Speaker 1: times and there was many times where it was just
Speaker 1: me for months on end, that it's like it's only
Speaker 1: like I'm only just sleeping in my own filth, So
Speaker 1: what's the point of washing? Right? Well, also, my big
Speaker 1: thing too, is I'm a I'm not a night shower.
Speaker 1: I'm a morning shower. I cannot shower before bed, and
Speaker 1: so my similar to what you're kind of mentioned there, Jared,
Speaker 1: is I don't really see the point of cleaning my
Speaker 1: sheets when I'm gonna wake up in the morning and
Speaker 1: clean myself. Anyways, I guess that's a good point. It
Speaker 1: also brings to mind I had this huge debate. Oh
Speaker 1: that is. One thing that we debated on actually was
Speaker 1: the bed sheets, because Kenny uses a top sheet, like
Speaker 1: the flat sheet underneath the comforter, and I've never done that,
Speaker 1: and it bothers me. I remember doing like a poll
Speaker 1: on Instagram and it was so fifty fifty and everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you use Yeah, people use the top sheet so that
Speaker 1: they can wash their sheets less, change the sheets less.
Speaker 1: It's the answer that I got, Like I always just
Speaker 1: I was just on the top sheet was like a
Speaker 1: like a like a thinner blanket that you used to
Speaker 1: keep you oh, or of decoration that works to kind
Speaker 1: a minute, We're just we're talking about the top sheet
Speaker 1: that you sleep, So it's like the sheet that goes
Speaker 1: over you and then you pull the comforter over that right, correct?
Speaker 1: Has that not? That's just not a thing I thought
Speaker 1: that was normal. I thought it was like a second
Speaker 1: blanket that like, if it's hot, you use the top sheet,
Speaker 1: and if it's getting cold, you put the comforter on you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I always assumed. Yeah, but I guess a
Speaker 1: lot of people's reasoning for using it, besides just I
Speaker 1: think they're supposed to do that is because they don't
Speaker 1: want to have to wash the entire bed set often,
Speaker 1: so instead they only washed the top sheet. Here's a
Speaker 1: better question for you, Dean. So, Dean, do you sleep
Speaker 1: with the comforter? Yeah, we have a comforter and a
Speaker 1: waited blanket. Way blanket is the best thing ever way
Speaker 1: to blanket. So nice. So when I ask you, you
Speaker 1: know how many times you washed the bed sheets? Did
Speaker 1: I include the comforter? Kalen? Oh, are you talking about me?
Speaker 1: Pre kalin Uh? I don't think I never was. But
Speaker 1: I use a top sheet. That's why I never washed
Speaker 1: my comforter. Yeah, I don't think I ever washed. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think I was. I don't think
Speaker 1: I was scared to put the comforter in the washing
Speaker 1: machine because it was so big. Yeah, get dry. I
Speaker 1: don't have that kind of money, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I really pre kaling, especially pre kalin um. And
Speaker 1: it's funny too, because we have like five sets of
Speaker 1: bed sheets for our bed because like Caalen is always
Speaker 1: like cycling through them and cleaning them and stuff. And
Speaker 1: there's like three of the colors. I absolutely hate if
Speaker 1: it's not like a white bed set, I hate it.
Speaker 1: And we have like this weird like dark blue and
Speaker 1: every time she puts it on, she like she like
Speaker 1: comes and like pulls me into the room and she
Speaker 1: goes look at her new bed sheets. And every single time,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Healing, these are hideous, and she's like so
Speaker 1: excited about him. I'm like, these are the most disgusting
Speaker 1: bed sheets ever seen my life. Like these are already
Speaker 1: dirty to me, just even though you just pulled them
Speaker 1: out of the washing machine. Um. But yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: I do appreciate her doing that because otherwise I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have changed my bed sheets for a long time. No way,
Speaker 1: it would still be once every six weeks for me.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. That's okay, all right, Well that's gonna
Speaker 1: do it. For this week's episode of help I Suck
Speaker 1: at Dating. Like we said, we do have a podcast
Speaker 1: coming out. In a podcast episode coming out on Thursday,
Speaker 1: we were going to take your calls. That's right, no
Speaker 1: more listener emails. Instead, we're gonna do listener phone calls,
Speaker 1: So make sure you tune in on Thursday. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have three help By Suck at Dating callers call into us.
Speaker 1: Mari is going to stick around for that podcast episode,
Speaker 1: which is fantastic, So it's gonna be Dean, myself, Marie
Speaker 1: answering your your phone calls. But as of right now, Mari,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us and catching up,
Speaker 1: you know, on your life. What's going on going over
Speaker 1: the hot topics, most importantly, what was happening with Ms
Speaker 1: Mrs Jennifer Affleck Uh. Even though Dean is very much
Speaker 1: tired of me talking about this affleck trying situation, I'm
Speaker 1: not tired about you talking about it. I just think
Speaker 1: that sometimes you get stuck in a situation where you
Speaker 1: could you could lively if we don't interrupt you, you you
Speaker 1: could literally go for hours and hours. It's just because
Speaker 1: I also love the fact that he is just like
Speaker 1: he's just like he's dating like the queen, not just
Speaker 1: a queen, like it's j Lo. It's it's kind of
Speaker 1: like Pete Davidson and Kid Kardashian a little bit, you know,
Speaker 1: where it's like, dude, that's like, she's such a queen
Speaker 1: and like Ben's awesome, don't me wrong. So it's Pete Davidson,
Speaker 1: but it's just like so obscure Ben. For as much Ben,
Speaker 1: for as much of a superstar as he is, he
Speaker 1: does seem like he's just like a regular guy, you know, totally. Oh,
Speaker 1: I freaking love it. Like there's this one clip where
Speaker 1: he's walking like he's like smiling at a fan. Somebody
Speaker 1: walks out. He was, oh, yeah, thank you, and then
Speaker 1: as soon as he turns away from the fan, he
Speaker 1: goes from smiling to like dead straight face. He's like
Speaker 1: and it's the most relatable moment where he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: thank you so much and just watch and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that was the most amazing thing I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my entire life. Annie, who thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us this week on help by
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