WEBVTT - Emergency Contacts with Mari Pepin

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<v Speaker 1>How I Suck At Dating with Denglert and Jared Haven

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<v Speaker 1>and I heard radio podcast. Hey, welcome to an all

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<v Speaker 1>new episode of Help I Suck At Dating. I am

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Haven and I'll make sure to talking to my

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<v Speaker 1>Mike this week because it always sounds better. And we

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<v Speaker 1>have a very special guest joining us. Also, Dean will

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<v Speaker 1>be on the line with us. Momentarily, we have Marie Peppin. Marie,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you, Hey, I'm good. I'm excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, thank you for being here. So obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the Help I Second Dating listeners are Bachelor listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>But just remind us what seasons you were on. You

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<v Speaker 1>were on Wait a minute, let me guess you're Matt

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<v Speaker 1>James season right, I was, yes, and then you are

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<v Speaker 1>obviously on Paradise because you ended up leaving with Kenny. Yes. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how things are? How are things going right now with

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<v Speaker 1>for you? Yeah? Everything's great. Um. I had been traveling

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit at the beginning of the year. I

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<v Speaker 1>was competing in a pageant in Puerto Rico, so was

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<v Speaker 1>splitting my time basically between Chicago and Puerto Rico. But

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<v Speaker 1>the patches over now, so I'm full time in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny and I have our place together, and yeah, things

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<v Speaker 1>are good, very cool. Now. We want to catch up

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<v Speaker 1>with you a little bit later on, but we do

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<v Speaker 1>have another episode, so we have a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a different format coming up. We have two episodes coming

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<v Speaker 1>up this week, so today we're releasing it. Uh, you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably listening to this on a Monday, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>have our second episode, which is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>catch up with Mari on Thursday, so make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>tune into that. But right now, it's gonna be hot

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<v Speaker 1>topics because we love hot topics. It's our fair everything

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. So one of the hot topics this week, Marie,

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<v Speaker 1>are you a Ben Affleck Jennifer Lopez fan? I am?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I think a lot of people hate

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<v Speaker 1>on them, but you know, I think it's just that

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<v Speaker 1>timing place type of thing, and you know, now it's

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<v Speaker 1>their time. I don't know who the hell hates on them,

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<v Speaker 1>but if they do hate on them, then they're just haters.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Dean can attest this. I love Ben Affleck

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<v Speaker 1>and Jennifer Lopez together. I Ashley and I pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>fanboy and fan girl over this one because Afflecks a

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<v Speaker 1>Boston boy, so he's a local, and like he's such

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<v Speaker 1>a die hard Boston sports fan, and like when he

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<v Speaker 1>talks about Tom Brady, he has like this passionate inflection

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<v Speaker 1>about him that I have, and there's like this relatability.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also love that Affleck has had this roller

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<v Speaker 1>coaster of not only celebrity status but a life where

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<v Speaker 1>he's been like, you know, he catapulted to the top

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<v Speaker 1>with Good Will Hunting and then he did all these

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<v Speaker 1>like nineties and early two thousands action movies and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>thought that he was never a good actor, but he

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<v Speaker 1>just was a good looking phase and so he made

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<v Speaker 1>movies like Paycheck or Armor Gedton and and then he

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course he like started you know, his

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<v Speaker 1>off his like non movies were more famous than his movies.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he uh came out with The Town and

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<v Speaker 1>Argo and One Best Director and was catapulted back to

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<v Speaker 1>the top. And then he got casted as Batman, and

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I love him as Batman, there was

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<v Speaker 1>like mixed reviews. And then he became like, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in the tabloids, an alcoholic. And then him and Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>Carter got a divorce and then nobody knew what was

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen, and he seemed like kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a distant dad. And then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden he started dating Jennifer Lopez, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>Affleck is back, and now they're freaking married. When Jared

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<v Speaker 1>kat says these like when he goes on these tangents,

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<v Speaker 1>all you gotta do is just interrupt him real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>snap your fingers a few times, and he'll pop out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Yeah, it's fun to talk about. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez are freaking

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<v Speaker 1>married now, Like it's Jennifer Lopez Affleck. That's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a legal name. Oh I thought she just changed it

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<v Speaker 1>to Affleck. Maybe she did an Affleck now, Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure. But she's Puerto Rican and Puerto Rican, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know there's that connect to and you know she's

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<v Speaker 1>successful and happy. So I'm happy for her. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry I was just being I was just being a

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<v Speaker 1>little facetious. Um, I'm sorry for being late as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys. It is five am in um Hawaii right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it wasn't for one of our producers calling me,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have slept until ten am. So, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to go ahead and say I apologize. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but Mary, it's good to see you. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>meet you. Um, I've got a question you. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is a super off topic and this is me just

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<v Speaker 1>being a ridiculous person right now. Didn't you just run

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<v Speaker 1>for like Miss Petter puert Tariko or something like that. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I did. Yeah, I was competing in Miss World Puerto Rico.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet and uh did you look around and see Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>Athleck competing in it? Because I'm sure you didn't. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not. That's awesome. I mean, come on, how

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<v Speaker 1>did it go? Can you tell us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about It's good? Yeah? I mean, so I had done

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<v Speaker 1>pageants here. I was in Miss Maryland, USA, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>compete at Miss USA, and I thought that I was

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<v Speaker 1>done with pageants once I decided to do Bachelor because

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, Okay, reality TV and patents don't really

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<v Speaker 1>go together, so I'm probably not gonna do this again.

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<v Speaker 1>But so many people from Puerto Rico, since that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm originally from, where like you should come compete here,

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<v Speaker 1>please please please represent us all this stuff? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, what maybe I'll just give it

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<v Speaker 1>one more shot. So, yeah, I went and competed for

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Weld Puerto Rico. Ended up top seven, so it

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<v Speaker 1>went well, and uh yeah, honestly, I'm I'm really happy

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<v Speaker 1>with how it went because I learned a lot, grew

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, you know, and I got to spend a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time being back home pretty much. So it's cool. Nice. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rico. I've heard a lot of good things. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never really been out there for myself to visit, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard from a lot of friends who have been

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<v Speaker 1>there that it's an incredible place. Oh you should You

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<v Speaker 1>and Caitlin would love it. Well, one of these days maybe, Um, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>how's it going over there? By the way, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>that I was late. I just wanted to apologize for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're fine, as you can hear Lois is barking

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<v Speaker 1>in the background. Dawson was crying earlier. It's just conse nice. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin is sleeping four ft away from me, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>got air PUDs, and so I don't think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to hear me, fortunately, thank god. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Lois is just always freaking out, um. Yes, and of course, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like we talked about earlier, you want to catch up

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<v Speaker 1>with Mari um and I want to talk more about

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<v Speaker 1>your experience being Miss Puerto Rico because that's freaking so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been to Puerto Rico and I love that

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<v Speaker 1>place so much. But we do have uh once again

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<v Speaker 1>hot topics jump into um. So my question for you

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<v Speaker 1>guys because Ben Affleck like we I went on the

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<v Speaker 1>tangent all right, cool, I get it, like I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>big j LO and Ben Affleck plan. What can I say?

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<v Speaker 1>But my question to you guys is they got married

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<v Speaker 1>in Vegas. So, Mari, would you ever marry Kenny in Vegas?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that would be such a I mean, granted,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never met you either in person, but judging from Kenny,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like he would totally get married in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>He totally would. He would. He's down for all the

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<v Speaker 1>like unheard of ideas and stuff like that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I would. I think I do like the courthouse

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<v Speaker 1>thing and just not tell anyone, But I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about Vegas. Well, isn't that kind of what happens in Vegas?

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<v Speaker 1>You get? All right? I'm gonna be I'm gonna sound

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<v Speaker 1>really stupid. It's not. Is it an annulment? What am

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<v Speaker 1>I thinking of? Lopement? You're thinking of a lopement? Lopit?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? You get eloped in Vegas? Is that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the same thing as going to the courtroom? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of. I don't know. I just I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>about the whole like they do the impersonators and like

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<v Speaker 1>the weird themes and like, I don't know, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>my style, that's not your style. You don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want Elvis Pressly to marry you guys, is what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying. No, I don't sorry. Could you imagine if

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis married Jlo and Ben Affleck? Could you imagine being

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<v Speaker 1>a JL just being like next in line? Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be crazy. I don't even know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm trying to put myself in that situation, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what would I do? I just see them walk in,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd freak out. I would freak out too. Well, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not quite what it's not quite well Ben and Jen,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben and Jen does that sounds so good? That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>so good. A benefits not quite what Beneford did. But

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<v Speaker 1>my brother just got married last Saturday, last weekend. He

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<v Speaker 1>proposed to his girlfriend on a Friday. They got married

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<v Speaker 1>on a Saturday. And while they didn't go to like

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<v Speaker 1>a traditional Vegas chapel with like Elvis getting married, they're

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<v Speaker 1>marrying them, they did like have to do it all

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<v Speaker 1>super quick, and so they like went to this little

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<v Speaker 1>chapel and got their marriage license, and um, it was

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<v Speaker 1>some guy that they had never met. His name was Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>He was good. He kept calling himself Peeping Tom. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a little strange, Um, but it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Tom marrying me. It was so much. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>Peeping Tom thing kind of freaked me a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was great. He just, you know, he had

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<v Speaker 1>no connection to the bride of the groom, but he

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<v Speaker 1>still liked it his little thing, and um kind of

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<v Speaker 1>went on his way. So I could see like doing

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<v Speaker 1>the whole Vegas wedding chapel thing, as long as it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like an Elvis or I don't know, something like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, A little more casual, a little more typical.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say it would be my style maybe, unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're like the biggest I was fan in the world

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<v Speaker 1>who once I was marrying them, you know, could you imagine? Don't?

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness, it makes a great story. What's the deal with? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>You and Kenny right now? So you guys are engaged obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, is there any wedding planning going on? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>So I just started thinking about the wedding planning and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm already stressed out. I'm like, there's so much to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do I start? And then I had this big

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<v Speaker 1>deal onea yesterday. I was like, are you supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>do the venue first? Are you suppys do the guest

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<v Speaker 1>this first? But it feels weird to you the guests

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<v Speaker 1>this first? But how do I know what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>venue I want if I don't know how many people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to come? Like, I don't know, It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot, right Well, I mean Jared is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>guy to ask for that because he's kind of been

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<v Speaker 1>in that same situation at some point right here, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>wedding planning, Yeah, it's listen, don't stress over it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I was actually listening to a podcast about

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<v Speaker 1>a guy dying and uh, he said on his deathbed,

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<v Speaker 1>he was like so much wasted time, which is quite

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<v Speaker 1>sad when you really think about it. I know, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on. There's a moral to this story, which is

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<v Speaker 1>on It's a sad story, but on your deathbed, you

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing you want to say is so much

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<v Speaker 1>wasted time. So my advice to you, Mary is to

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<v Speaker 1>not stress over that you're If you guys do end

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<v Speaker 1>up getting married, which sounds like you are, which is fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>don't stress over wedding planning. Oh my are you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we might as well just dive into it

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<v Speaker 1>right now. So you're you're not engaged? Correct? Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you are engaged? Oh my god. Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. Okay, so you guys are engaged, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have not like really specifically talked about wedding planning until

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<v Speaker 1>right now. You're just getting into it. Yeah. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>with the whole pageant and everything, I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be married if you're going to compete in

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<v Speaker 1>a mispageant, so we have to wait until afterwards to

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<v Speaker 1>find out if I win or not. And then since

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't win, now we can actually start planning and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, doing all that kind of stuff. So that

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you rather be in a Mimsis pageant? Anyways? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not too sure. I think I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a lot of work. Yeah. Well, I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard Kalen talk about it a little bit too. She

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been like there any like international stuff, but obviously

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<v Speaker 1>in missed North Carolina, and she always have mentioned how

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<v Speaker 1>stressful and how time consuming and how all of that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff it is. So I can definitely, um, at least

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<v Speaker 1>empathize with you a little bit there. But that's good

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<v Speaker 1>that now it's it's over and so now you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are planning and now you're gonna make the guest list

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<v Speaker 1>before everything else. But I do want to say, um,

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<v Speaker 1>watching Bachelor and Paradise last season, you guys were definitely

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite couples because it just seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>you two, um, you just you guys. You guys seem

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<v Speaker 1>win more natural around each other than a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like, you know, you weren't forcing anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and there obviously we're a little bit hiccups along the way,

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<v Speaker 1>but like what good love story doesn't have if you

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<v Speaker 1>hiccups along the way. Anyways, you know I agree, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. It's nice to hear that because everyone's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite couples are the ones that got together day

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<v Speaker 1>one and stay together. That's so boring. Come on, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's real life either, Like, in real life, relationships

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<v Speaker 1>aren't like that. So you know, I'm a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of our story too. Exactly. People seem to forget that

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<v Speaker 1>in real life. There are issues that people face in

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<v Speaker 1>regular relationships, and it's not just like they got together

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<v Speaker 1>day one and that there together day thirty five. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, let's let's have a little bit of realism

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<v Speaker 1>with exactly. Yeah, um, but no, I respect that. I

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<v Speaker 1>love watching you guys, Kenny. I always told Kalen whenever

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<v Speaker 1>when every Kidney came on the screen, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the hottest man I've ever seen in my entire

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<v Speaker 1>life for that guy, because he's like a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>looking man. Thank you. Yeah, I think so too. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks good at the table. Oh nice, nice, Well, don't

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<v Speaker 1>tell myself have a shirt on back from I know

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<v Speaker 1>we did. We did the news interview thinking for this

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<v Speaker 1>charity event that we're doing, so we came straight from that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why he's what's it's for special Olympics? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>very nice. What are you guys doing? They're doing a

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<v Speaker 1>duck derby. Every year they released like a million ducks

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<v Speaker 1>into the Chicago River and each duck has a good

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<v Speaker 1>number on it. So you purchased a duck, you donate

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<v Speaker 1>to get a duck, and whoever's duck wins, like gets

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<v Speaker 1>the end first wins like a new car or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Oh, that's so cute. That's awesome that you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are a part of that. Yeah, we love Social Olympics. Well, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to get into this more of these

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<v Speaker 1>topical headlines for us? Yeah? So, uh, Maria, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>Kardashian fan at all? Um, you know what, I not

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I don't keep up with the show, but

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<v Speaker 1>I am a huge fan of the family in general.

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<v Speaker 1>So we talked about the Kardashians a lot here because

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<v Speaker 1>we're dating podcasts and you know, it's just two guys

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Kardashians stuf. You know, it's a little juicy,

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<v Speaker 1>especially like apparently this new show and Hulu is really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley Craves watching every new episode. I think it just ended,

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<v Speaker 1>but like every Thursday they dropped a new episode, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said, how much in the news show is better? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>there's news coming out that have you heard about this

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan and Chloe drama that's going on? Yes, I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know exactly kind of what's going on, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still a little confused because I never know what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in real time or what's being aired on the

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<v Speaker 1>show that actually had happened six months ago. So they

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<v Speaker 1>were they're having another baby via surrogate, right, correct. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to explain this for the listeners in case

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<v Speaker 1>they're not up to par Alright, So, Chloe, So Tristan Thompson,

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<v Speaker 1>NBA player, dated Chloe Kardashian. They had one kid together, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then he cheated for like the second time, several times.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's cheated on. She broke up with them, then

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<v Speaker 1>they got back together. Then it was announced that Tristan

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<v Speaker 1>and Chloe were having another baby via surrogate. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>skipped a step there, because I got much together. After

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<v Speaker 1>they got back together a second time, it came out

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<v Speaker 1>that he had also had another child, like a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months prior with someone else. Oh god, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm also still a little confused about what

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<v Speaker 1>their status is right now, Like I know that they're

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<v Speaker 1>having this child, which is due supposedly like any minute now,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not dating and as of late, he was

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<v Speaker 1>in Greece partying with some other chick, like a few

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<v Speaker 1>nights ago. All right, here's Ashley a quick recap. Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>she knows everything to say that. You obviously don't listen

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<v Speaker 1>to me and I talk because I'm very confused because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when you explained the Kardashian Oh my god, can

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<v Speaker 1>you believe what happened with was lally interested last week?

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<v Speaker 1>And you were like you, I told you the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but you also said that it was last week on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, but it happened back in December, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is all real time? Yes, okay, was breaking on instag

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<v Speaker 1>Graham last week breaking on Instagram? Got it? Okay? So

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<v Speaker 1>what is the status between Tristan and Chloe right now? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they apparently hated each other as of you know, December

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<v Speaker 1>and on. But she why are we talking about December?

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<v Speaker 1>It's July. This is what confuses me because the show wrapped,

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<v Speaker 1>like the show is in delayed time. It's just like

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<v Speaker 1>six months delayed. That's what the show time or is

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<v Speaker 1>it real time? In real time? We just found out

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<v Speaker 1>in real time that this baby is do that was

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<v Speaker 1>implanted in the surrogate in November? But when did Chloe

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<v Speaker 1>find out that Tristan cheated on her in December? And

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<v Speaker 1>when was the surrogate planted November? Okay, but why is

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<v Speaker 1>it just coming out now because they're just announcing that

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<v Speaker 1>the mean because the baby's about to be born. This

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<v Speaker 1>is my point. You're going to have a baby be

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<v Speaker 1>born and be like and they have They're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to explain the situation now. They're like, they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>now we will explain the situation because Chloe's about to

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<v Speaker 1>have a new baby. But this was a secret for

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<v Speaker 1>like six months. Yes, got it? Okay, this is that

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<v Speaker 1>was the because you understand the drama here is that

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<v Speaker 1>the surrogate was riding it a month before Chloe found

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<v Speaker 1>out that Triston was cheating again. Yes, of course bad timing.

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<v Speaker 1>So my question, so there are they're not together anymore? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know like she took him back twice after

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<v Speaker 1>cheating ship and now well, I mean maybe one big time.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you know that before the other baby, before

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<v Speaker 1>True was born, literally Chloe found out that Tristan had

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<v Speaker 1>cheated on her a day or two before True was born.

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<v Speaker 1>True is the baby between Chloe and triesting, Yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>one that already is like three. So what's up with

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<v Speaker 1>this man and having horrible timing that I don't understand?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you so bad? How are you saying? What's

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<v Speaker 1>up with the bad timing? Why is Tristan? Why does

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<v Speaker 1>he want? Does he keep getting caught right after like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's amazing, it's crazy. Yeah, just doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing is he loves the bed control. It's gone, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>bye bye. Thank you so much for the recap. I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate it. Actually, she knows all thing Kardashian. So

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<v Speaker 1>my question for you, so, yeah, the bad timing thing

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<v Speaker 1>is weird. How does this keep coming out? I think

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<v Speaker 1>he just doesn't care. I think he probably strings Chloe

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<v Speaker 1>along and it's like, oh yeah, it's fine, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>there for you. We're going to have a family. And

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<v Speaker 1>then like the next day he's like whatever, and he

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<v Speaker 1>does whatever he wants. That's what it seems like, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the baby is about to be born and

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<v Speaker 1>he's out partying with other girls in grease right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So so he's in Greece right now, partying with other girls. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>literally like two days ago, I think it was. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy seems like a douche bag. Why is Chloe continuing

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<v Speaker 1>to get back together with him? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I've read online that people were like, Oh, she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't care, she just wants to have her she wants

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<v Speaker 1>her kids to have the same parents, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>more that kind of thing. But I don't, I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I obviously get that you want to try to stick

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<v Speaker 1>together for the kids, But my god, at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>is it even healthy for the family if the mom

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<v Speaker 1>and dad are constantly fighting and the dad is always cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, of course, yeah, no way. Imagine when they

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<v Speaker 1>get older, they're mega famous, they're going to see all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff about their parents. I was gonna say, let's

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, it's not because they're gonna have a regular

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<v Speaker 1>childhood anyways, you know what I mean. But not not

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<v Speaker 1>to not to like give a pass to Tristan because

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<v Speaker 1>he sounds like a kind of a diuchebag, But it

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<v Speaker 1>does seem like these kids are kind of destined for

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime of that. We're like, we're never really gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have any idea of what it's going to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're like the most uber famous family of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I agree. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's no way to sell to them. Really well.

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<v Speaker 1>My question to you guys is do you think because

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<v Speaker 1>this begs the question, Chloe keeps going back to Tristan,

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<v Speaker 1>and even in this article I was reading from uh

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<v Speaker 1>E News, she mentions that she has zero doubt that

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan will step up after the second baby arrives. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, how can you have zero doubt? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's a great father. I'm not denying this, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty clear that he's not a good partner. So

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<v Speaker 1>I questioned to you guys, is do you think you

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<v Speaker 1>could ever get back together someone after you found out

0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:13.399
<v Speaker 1>that they were cheating on you? You know what, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I say no, And I've actually been in that situation before,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, I didn't have definitive proof in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I took him back and then of course

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<v Speaker 1>it kept happening, and I was like no, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>my parents divorced due to that, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to stand for this, and no, any

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<v Speaker 1>any partner who cheats on their partners, like low level

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<v Speaker 1>to me, So can I ask you if you're willing

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<v Speaker 1>to share, obviously, and only if you're willing to share,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you find out that it was happening? So

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<v Speaker 1>the first instance was actually we were at like a

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<v Speaker 1>what is that called a house swarming party for a

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<v Speaker 1>mutual friend, and um, I actually ended up leaving, going

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<v Speaker 1>to bed early and found out the next day through

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<v Speaker 1>like this first Oh he hooked up with so and

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<v Speaker 1>so while you were gone, no proof, nobody saw it,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody heard it, and of course he denied it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, maybe people are making it up, maybe

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.679
<v Speaker 1>they saw wrong, maybe people were drunk, you know, excuses. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, that's how that happened. And then how did

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<v Speaker 1>you end up confirming that happened or was it always

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<v Speaker 1>just the I got feeling that you had? No I

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<v Speaker 1>actually ended up talking to the person the girl that

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<v Speaker 1>they said yeah, oh god. Yeah. We were together at

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<v Speaker 1>that point for like six months, so pretty early on.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, for the record, I too would not take

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<v Speaker 1>anyone back I think you did. I mean, I, I,

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<v Speaker 1>like Mari, have made that mistake in my early ages.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, being cheated on is literally just one of

0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the worst things ever, like it just it sucks for them,

0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:53.240
<v Speaker 1>It sucks for you, It sucks for the other person

0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.240
<v Speaker 1>that they cheated on you with, Like it sucks for

0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:57.879
<v Speaker 1>everyone involved. It's like, why would you just not just

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it. It's so much easier to not have to.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me personally, it would be so hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get over. It would be so hard to get

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<v Speaker 1>that thought out of my mind, you know, just even

0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 1>thinking about them being intimate with someone, kissing someone. And

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<v Speaker 1>then furthermore, every time they go out without me, there's

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<v Speaker 1>to that trust and it's going to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of my head, a little voice saying to happen

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<v Speaker 1>before it can happen again. Uh so that would be

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<v Speaker 1>really and then it would just cause resentment and it

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<v Speaker 1>would cause me being angry at them. I could see

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:31.919
<v Speaker 1>it play out right in front of me, even if

0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh I can move past it, we'd be okay. Yeah.

0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:39.160
<v Speaker 1>And you because even after that relationship, like it still

0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.919
<v Speaker 1>affects you, because I mean I had tried to like

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<v Speaker 1>talk to other people after that, and that was still

0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:45.679
<v Speaker 1>always in the back of my mind, like, oh, what

0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:47.119
<v Speaker 1>if he's going to do the same thing. But if

0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:49.399
<v Speaker 1>he's talking to other people like it it sticks with

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<v Speaker 1>you all. I mean, now I'm a much better place,

0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about that. But yeah, no, I

0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:55.159
<v Speaker 1>don't have a lot of deal breakers, but cheating is

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 1>definitely number one. Have you ever been cheated on? I

0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like you have not been cheated on in your life? No,

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean technically, like my ex girlfriend like kissed another

0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:09.879
<v Speaker 1>guy one night when she was out. It was like

0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 1>he pretty much he kissed her and then it was

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:19.600
<v Speaker 1>like this awkwardness where she like it was like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like a good couple of seconds where they kissed, and

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 1>then she was like, what the hell am I doing?

0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 1>So it was like it wasn't really cheating, you know.

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:30.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was like a such a like a

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>quick mistake. Okay, that's a good question as well. Would

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>that constitute is cheating? So I was just gonna say

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>everyone's definition of cheating and what's acceptable it not? It's different, right,

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know because from I remember, she was

0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 1>so upset, told me the truth. She was very honest

0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>with me, um, and she told me exactly what happened.

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:55.119
<v Speaker 1>I believed her that this guy, douchebag McGee, uh, like

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:58.480
<v Speaker 1>they were drunk at a party were you know, in college,

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and he leaned into as her and then she like

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of didn't. She was pretty honest that like she

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 1>kissed him back for like a second and then immediately

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 1>was like what the hell am I doing? And then

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>of course like cry hysterically. And we were dating for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of maybe like a year at this point. So, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I would really constitute that is

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<v Speaker 1>cheating because it was accounts. I don't know, what do

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.399
<v Speaker 1>you guys think, Well, I'm just trying to put myself

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.639
<v Speaker 1>in your in your position, I do think it counts

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>as cheating. I will say though, if someone approached me

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:35.679
<v Speaker 1>like I don't even want to say Kalin because I

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>don't even want to put that image in my head.

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Like let's say I was dating someone and they came

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.439
<v Speaker 1>to me and said, exactly what you just said happened

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 1>to them. I that's like, I respect the fact that

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.119
<v Speaker 1>they did it and they came and told you right away.

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 1>And Marie's case, it sounds like there wasn't like ownership

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>of their actions, and that's what would really piss me off,

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, you know, they're dodging that what what

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:59.400
<v Speaker 1>what might have happened? Um this whole Tristan and Thompson

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>and Chloe heard ashion thing, didn't Tristan like deny it

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 1>for the longest time, and it's like, look like, if

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm if I'm going to get over this shitty situation,

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I need you to own up to what you did.

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:11.960
<v Speaker 1>And if you don't own up to it, then I'll

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:13.879
<v Speaker 1>never get over it. So like, just tell me the

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>truth and then we'll work on for giving each other

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.679
<v Speaker 1>for it. But like, if you're denying it like I

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>am not, there's not in a million years while I

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.920
<v Speaker 1>ever get over this exactly. No. I mean I also

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 1>think it's like insult to injury because not only did

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:28.879
<v Speaker 1>you cheat on me, but now you're lying to me

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 1>about it. That just makes it ten times worse because

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.640
<v Speaker 1>now the trust is double broken. And back to whether

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 1>or not that's cheating, I do think that kissing someone

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 1>else is cheating because if not, that kind of opens

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the gateway in my mind for oh well, we maybe

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>became a little bit more intimate than kissing, but it

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>was just for a second and then I stopped it

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and I felt bad, you know. But it's also so

0:25:56.359 --> 0:26:03.439
<v Speaker 1>hard because I've I guess, I guess technically speaking, but

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>then you're labeled as a cheater, like that small instance,

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 1>you're a cheater. It's hard because man, that's such a

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.239
<v Speaker 1>it's such a shy labeled to have on you. You know,

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>like don't do it, but like it's you're absolutely right,

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>don't do it, obviously first and foremost, but also human

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>beings just make mistakes. And I think about an instance

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>like that, and I hate to harp on this one

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>moment because you know it's but like anybody out there

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:34.120
<v Speaker 1>who just like has a second of weakness, and it's

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>like and then they're like completely honest about it and

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 1>they tell you the truth and you believe them. And

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>then even after that, like I think about myself now,

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.640
<v Speaker 1>granted I was in my early twenties, so of course

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like I'm so mad at you, blah blah blah,

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.120
<v Speaker 1>and I was upset, But like, I feel like now,

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.879
<v Speaker 1>at thirty three, i'd be able to see that's something

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I'd be able to move on from. No way,

0:26:56.440 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I swear if it was like because if somebody leaned

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>in and kissed like again, I don't even want to

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>think about I guess Ashley in this instance, but I

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 1>will for the sake of the podcast, if somebody leaned in.

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>If Ashley was just like having fun then with her

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>friends and she was just being Ashley and it was

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>all fun and then some dude leaning and kissed her

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.919
<v Speaker 1>and she had like a second before she like pushed away.

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>M hmm. I don't know't be upset, but I think

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I could understand where it's like, yeah, you just had

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you had a moment, and like it wasn't you didn't

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>want to do it. You weren't thinking about cheating. It's

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>not like you know, you were looking at this person

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh man, like I wish I had them

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 1>instead of Jared. I think it was just more of

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>like a moment. I don't know, it's hard. I mean

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 1>I can understand that perspective. I think it's important for

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>couples to have that communication, like in the beginning of

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the relationship, like what is cheating to you? What is

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>not cheating to you? Because some people also there's like

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>emotional cheating, and then there's like online cheating or like

0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 1>flirting with people on I don't know, on Twitter or

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>into whatever. So there's so many different scenarios where it

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>could be like where where is that line? I think

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what people need to establish. Yeah, no, I agree,

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>And Jared, I just gotta say, there's no way that

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>actually was shed on you because you're you. I says,

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 1>did you like lose ten pounds or something? You look

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>better than everything? Just shaved your shaved your beard or something. Dude,

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Ashley said the exact same thing because I shaved yesterday

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:27.120
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, you look like that, you're you look

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you look again? This is great? Do you do you again?

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 1>It sucks like putting yourself in the sypothetical scenario. But

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 1>but does having a kid kind of give um? Because

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>like bringing back to clothe interest and is having a

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>kid kind of like give not like like more of

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>a leash to do things that are wrong, but like

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>it gives you obviously more of a reason to be together. Right, So,

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>like does having a kid like maybe like allow for

0:28:56.280 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>more forgiveness on certain things? Um, that's probably does because

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, inserting a kid just it does. It

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>does change things obviously because it's no longer just you

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and this partner. It's it's you know, it takes the

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 1>whole family dynamic to a new level because it's not

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>just you two anymore. There's three of you, and it's

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>really this core group. Because I was thinking about it yesterday,

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, when um Ashley and I were talking about it,

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and when I think of you know, even even somewhat

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>to this day, when somebody says your family, like who's

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>your family, Like, well, my mom, my dad, my sister

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>bought a batah blah. But then now and moving forward,

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be like, well, who's your family, Well it's Ashley,

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>it's Dawson, and that it's a big transition in my mind.

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>And because when I was I was talking to Ashley

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>about this, When I think of my dad's family, I

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>think of me. I think of my sister, I think

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>of my mom. You know, I don't think of my grandparents,

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>his parents, or his or my aunts and uncles. I think, like, no,

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>we're his family, where his most important people in his life.

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>But then I think about like when he grew up

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>with his sisters and brothers and like and then his parents,

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know, there was obviously a switch in

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>his life at some point saying you know this, there's

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>still my family. But like when I'm describing my family.

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>This is my family, and I feel like I'm going

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>through that moment right now. Any Who so that does,

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like probably would breed more forgiveness for both

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>of us, because it is like this just core that

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>we don't want to disrupt. I've got friends that both

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>men and women, who have either been cheated on or

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the relationship just wasn't a healthy one, but they kept

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>going back and the reasoning was, oh, well, I want

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to keep my family together. The reasoning was because they

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>don't want to affect the kid in a negative way.

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I mean, hey, I understand that, but

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you also got to do what's right for you. But like,

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't have a kid, so I

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>can't really speak to that, but just from what the

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>friends that I had that do and have been in

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>those situations, it's always about like, well, no, even though

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 1>this person cheated on me or did this to me,

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>this is my family and I want to keep it together. Yeah.

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>And Jared, you make a really interesting point too, because

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>you're right like when I think of my family, I

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>think of my siblings and my parents. I don't think

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>about my aunts and my uncles, And it's just really

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.479
<v Speaker 1>it's when you say that, it's like really interesting because

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>like my brother just had a baby, so now I'm

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>an uncle, but like my uncle's I would never like

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously they're your family, but like you never think about

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>them as such, at least like your core nucleus of

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>a family. I don't know if that's so interesting to

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>think about, yeah, because I mean, as long as you

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>guys keep going, like your core nucleus family is calin,

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you know. And then if you guys have kids one

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>day and that changes things, you know, and Mary same thing,

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Like you guys your wedding planning with Kenny right now.

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>And so I feel like there comes a transition in

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>all our lives, luckily hopefully knock on wood, where we're

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>able to you know, have a life with someone and

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>share life with someone. But that changes a dynamic of things. Yeah,

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think you necessarily have to be married

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>for that to change, because for me, I actually kind

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>of noticed this once I moved to Chicago, um and

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I had to fill out you know, like change all

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>my residency stuff, medical stuff and all that, and I

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>started putting Kenny as my emergency contact and it's a

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>big deal. Yeah, Mary, let me ask you this. When

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you when you put Kenny as your emergency contact, do

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you have to look up his phone number or do

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.959
<v Speaker 1>you have it memorized. I have to look it up.

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I know the first three digits are seven a weight.

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>But Calen memorized my phone number like six months into

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>us dating, and I like, it really kicked my button

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>to gear and I was like, holy crap, I gotta

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>memorize it. And I go in and out of knowing

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>it and not knowing it, but generally I get it,

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I get it like eighty percent a time. But like,

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>when's the last time you re memorized that you needed

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>to memorize a phone number? Doesn't really happen anymore? You

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>know you always have your phone on you? Yeah? No,

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's scary because every once in a while I

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>think about, like, oh my god, what if I get

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>stranded and my phone dies and there's no one around.

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>What do I do? Like, I know my mom's phone number,

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>but that's it. She lives in Germany right now, so

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>she's not going to help me. She's not much. She

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>still puts her dad as emergency contact. It's a sore subject.

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>He's a doctor, so kind of makes sense. I'm kidding. Yeah,

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>he is a doctor. I get I own a coffee shop.

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>It's quite different. All right, Well, we do have another

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>hot topic that I want to get into, and then

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>we do want to catch up with Mari. First, we're

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna take a short break. All right, welcome back to

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>help I suck at dating. We have Mari here. So, Marie,

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>like we were talking about before, you were Miss Puerto Rico.

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>That sounded really done. During that eating for Miss Putoca,

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't win, but were competing, Okay, so you were

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>also so you have a lot of steak in. Is

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>it Miss America? No? What is it? Because you're also

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>your marketing director? Uh? And you were were you were missing?

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 1>So yes, you were competing for Miss Puerto Rico. But

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>if I'm very quickly, you were also Miss Maryland. Is

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>that correct? Yeah? So it was Miss Maryland USA. So

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I competed. Okay, Is Miss America a thing or is

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 1>that something different? No? It is. There are two different

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:25.799
<v Speaker 1>pageants though, So there's Miss America and Miss Usa. Okay,

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 1>got it? And you were competing in Miss Usa. Correct? Yeah?

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>And you were Miss Maryland and you're competing for Miss

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rico. But how did you How were you able

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to compete for two different I mean, I know Puerto

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Rico is what is it exactly considered? It's not a state,

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's a territory as of right now. But they're

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:48.720
<v Speaker 1>completely unrelated. So I was Miss Maryland back in UM

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>and then I competed for Miss World Puerto Rico. So

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>two completely different things. Oh, very cool, Miss World. That's insane. Yeah,

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:00.399
<v Speaker 1>I've got a question for you more if you were

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>to compete in Miss America and it could have been

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the same for Puerto Rico as well. Um. And the

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>only reason I asked this is because Kaitlin and I

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>talked about it sometimes as well. If there was a

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 1>talent portion, which there is not in Miss U, I say,

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>what would your talent have been? I would dance? Yeah,

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I like to dance, YEA what type of dance? Um?

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean I do like ballroom stuff, salsa metting it,

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the Latin stuff. Um. But I did

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a little tiny bit of like ballet, like intro ballet,

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 1>So I guess I could also maybe do like a

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>contemporary type of thing. Do you and Kenny ever go dancing. No,

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Kenny cannot dance at all. So because you guys, I

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>imagine you. I could totally imagine you guys as like

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Mr and Mrs Smith just like having this sexy sultress

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Latin dance together. Like, kid, you're such a beautiful couple,

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and like you're so good looking and just like you

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>guys look like you'd be the stars of an action movie.

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 1>So I could totally see that, and it's I need

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>that to happen. So I really just need Kenny to

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 1>learn how to dance so you guys can do this together. Well,

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the good news is that he's open to learning. He

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>told me, you know, if I were to like sit

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>down with him and teach him that he would do it.

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>But if there's any ever any like karaoke, like dancing

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>at a party. He didn't want to dance when we're

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>filming Paradise, Like he's so against it. I think it's

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 1>because he knows that he's not very good at it.

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty funny. I remember so my brother who I

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.840
<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier, who got married. He said that his wife's

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>one stipulation was that if she marries him, he has

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>to dance whenever she wants to dance, and my brother

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 1>is like the most introverted, like shy person, and to

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>see them dancing on the night of their wedding was

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 1>hilarious because my brother is not a dancer at all

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and like this girl and she I love her to death.

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>She's a great girl. I'm so happy they're married. Um,

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>she just has zero shame, like just dances her heart

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>out and it's the most respectable, most admirable thing. And

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>then to see my brother trying to keep up with

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.399
<v Speaker 1>her is like one of the funniest things because he's

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>like holding true to his promise of like trying to

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>dance with there. But like that so sweet. It's very sweet.

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 1>It's very sweet, and I'm very happy for them, but like,

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:14.879
<v Speaker 1>you can't, you can't keep up with this girl. She's

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>like a dancing machine. And my brother, who is not

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 1>a dancer and has never rhythm whatsoever at all, is

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>like trying to keep up with her. And it's like

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that's and it's funny too. I was sitting on the

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 1>couch the whole time because like we're you know, and

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>we were like at this weird club and it was

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 1>like a post party and I'm like sitting on the

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>couch watching my brother dance, and I'm like, I'm such

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>a schmuck just sitting here watching my brother who can't

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>dance dance and I should be up there dancing with them.

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 1>But it is what it is. I don't know. Dancing

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 1>is tricky. If you don't have it, you don't have it.

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>And I one of the people that don't have it.

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it kind of worries me. I mean, he

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>can slow dance, so our wedding will be a problem

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>in that regard. But I would love to do, like

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, we will do of this

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of Smith style dance, like a surprise performance kind

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 1>of thing. But I don't know. We're gonna have to

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.240
<v Speaker 1>start working on it now. I gotta admit I'm shocked

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Kenny can't dance because he seems like he's got rhythm

0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:08.879
<v Speaker 1>just looking at him. I great dance. No. No, there's

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>a reason his favorite genre of music is yacht rock,

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's because you don't really need a lot of

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>rhythm to enjoy it rock. Yeah, what the hell is that?

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 1>You know? Like Jimmy Buffett, like Margaritaville type of listening

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>type of stuff, Yeah. I think it's because Kenny looks

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>like he could be in a Magic Mike or Chip

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 1>and Dale show. I think that's why Dean and I

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.279
<v Speaker 1>just assume he knows how to give a lap dance,

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 1>you know what. He has not given anyone that will

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>be his task tonight or today. Well that's awesome. I'm

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 1>glad we are assisting in that department. Uh. So you

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 1>guys just recently celebrated your one year anniversary because you

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 1>left Paradise together. So how has the past year been

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and did you guys do anything for your anniversary? Yeah,

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the past year has been kind of crazy. So we

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 1>got engaged how to be a secret for like three

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>ish months, um, and ever since we were able to

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 1>be public, I spent most of my time here. I

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 1>was going back and forth. I lived in Maryland at

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.720
<v Speaker 1>the time, so it was kind of a long distance

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>for a few months, and then around December, I was

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>here basically all the time. Uh. And we were at

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that point just waiting for my lease end, which ended

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 1>in February of this year, so um as soon as

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>it ended. Actually, his lease ended like two weeks before minded,

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 1>so it was weird coincidental timing. Um. But our leases

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>ended them then we were able to sign a new

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>lease on a new apartment here in Chicago, so moved

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.320
<v Speaker 1>in right away and it's been great. I mean, I

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>ended up signing up to do the paget because he

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 1>told me that I should. I just I don't know.

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I was hesitant, and I was like, I don't know,

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:47.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to spend so much time on this, I'm

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:49.919
<v Speaker 1>going to be away lots of money, blah blah blah.

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, no, if you want to do it, like,

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll support you, I want you to do it. So um,

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I agreed to do it, and then I spent like

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:59.879
<v Speaker 1>five months traveling between here in Puerto Rico. So yeah,

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 1>it's been a wild ride, but it's been nice. It's

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>been cool to have someone that you just get along

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 1>so well with and that everything's easy with. Yeah, that's good.

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the most important things that a

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Bachelor specific couple can do after their time on the

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 1>show together if they really wanted to work. I think

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>moving in together within the first year is pretty paramount,

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like, you guys did it

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 1>well because you guys waited what five or six months

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, it is. Um so that what you can

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>decide that you actually like each other and then moving

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>in together is like, that's that's honestly the best. And

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>if you guys had it moved in together after your

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>leases were up in February or whenever you said, I

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.280
<v Speaker 1>think that would have been a big mistake. So kudos

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to you guys for making it work. Thank you, thank you.

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I agree, Yeah, I mean it was a little nerve

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.320
<v Speaker 1>racking because he had never lived with a woman before,

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I lived with a partner or really ever been in

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 1>like a serious relationship. Um, So I was like kind

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>of nervous in that regard, just thinking like, oh my gosh,

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>what if he doesn't like living with someone, what if

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.439
<v Speaker 1>you want to do by himself like out? But it's

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>been good. Were there any adjustments when you guys moved in,

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Like was he a slob and you're a clean freak

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 1>or the opposite or anything like that. No, I mean

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:13.439
<v Speaker 1>I think we're both pretty clean. I think the only

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:17.240
<v Speaker 1>thing is I shed hair like crazy. So the bathroom

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>there's usually always a lot of hair on the floor sogging. Oh,

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 1>I know, it's terrible. Um And for him, I mean

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 1>I got rid of all of his kitchen stuff because

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>it just was not I love to cook, I spent

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time in the kitchen and I need

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>nice tools. So I got rid of all his kitchen

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff and got, you know, brought over all my nicer stuff,

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>and uh, yeah, I think that's pretty much it. I

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 1>got a question for you guys, because I actually and

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I will not really, but we had a differing opinion

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 1>about how often one should wash the sheets because when

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I was living alone, I washed it a certain amount

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 1>of times, and then when I lived with Ashley, she's

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:08.319
<v Speaker 1>found out and she said, excuse me, how many times

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 1>have you washed your sheets? And I said this many times,

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, you're disgusting. And so I have learned

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:18.720
<v Speaker 1>since hand how many times you should wash sheets per

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>weeks or months or so on and so forth. To

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 1>my question to you folks, without me telling you my timeline,

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:29.399
<v Speaker 1>how often do you wash your bed sheets? I think

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 1>you're washing ours like every two weeks or so. I

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:38.399
<v Speaker 1>would say, Calin changes our bed sheets once a week,

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>but pre Kalin, I was changing my bed sheets twice

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:49.879
<v Speaker 1>a year. I would say, Okay, I'm not that bad.

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I was changing it probably once maybe a month. It

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 1>might take me like five weeks to wash my sheets.

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna tell me, you're jed, you're some weeks after

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 1>moving out of the house. You there wasn't one year

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 1>where you only change his sheets twice, because I know,

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, I'm sure on average maybe it was once

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 1>a month, but come on, there had to have been

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:13.839
<v Speaker 1>one year where you only changed them twice. There might

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>have been stretches where it was like maybe there was

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:18.799
<v Speaker 1>a couple of months in there. But it's also because

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 1>it's only like, well, okay, there's also you know, we're

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:25.359
<v Speaker 1>all in relationships. Obviously we're very happy, which is nice.

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Nobody else shares the bed. But I'm sure we've been

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 1>in moments where we've had one bed and we maybe

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 1>have been single, and there may have been more than

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.720
<v Speaker 1>one person in a bed with us over the course

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>of months, and so of course you've got to make

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 1>sure that like that's sanitary. But like, if there's been

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 1>times and there was many times where it was just

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>me for months on end, that it's like it's only

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.879
<v Speaker 1>like I'm only just sleeping in my own filth, So

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>what's the point of washing? Right? Well, also, my big

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>thing too, is I'm a I'm not a night shower.

0:43:56.880 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm a morning shower. I cannot shower before bed, and

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 1>so my similar to what you're kind of mentioned there, Jared,

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 1>is I don't really see the point of cleaning my

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>sheets when I'm gonna wake up in the morning and

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 1>clean myself. Anyways, I guess that's a good point. It

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 1>also brings to mind I had this huge debate. Oh

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 1>that is. One thing that we debated on actually was

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the bed sheets, because Kenny uses a top sheet, like

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the flat sheet underneath the comforter, and I've never done that,

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 1>and it bothers me. I remember doing like a poll

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram and it was so fifty fifty and everyone's like, oh,

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you use Yeah, people use the top sheet so that

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>they can wash their sheets less, change the sheets less.

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:39.799
<v Speaker 1>It's the answer that I got, Like I always just

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I was just on the top sheet was like a

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>like a like a thinner blanket that you used to

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>keep you oh, or of decoration that works to kind

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>a minute, We're just we're talking about the top sheet

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 1>that you sleep, So it's like the sheet that goes

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>over you and then you pull the comforter over that right, correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Has that not? That's just not a thing I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was normal. I thought it was like a second

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<v Speaker 1>blanket that like, if it's hot, you use the top sheet,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it's getting cold, you put the comforter on you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I always assumed. Yeah, but I guess a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people's reasoning for using it, besides just I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're supposed to do that is because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to have to wash the entire bed set often,

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<v Speaker 1>so instead they only washed the top sheet. Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>better question for you, Dean. So, Dean, do you sleep

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<v Speaker 1>with the comforter? Yeah, we have a comforter and a

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<v Speaker 1>waited blanket. Way blanket is the best thing ever way

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<v Speaker 1>to blanket. So nice. So when I ask you, you

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<v Speaker 1>know how many times you washed the bed sheets? Did

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<v Speaker 1>I include the comforter? Kalen? Oh, are you talking about me?

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<v Speaker 1>Pre kalin Uh? I don't think I never was. But

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<v Speaker 1>I use a top sheet. That's why I never washed

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<v Speaker 1>my comforter. Yeah, I don't think I ever washed. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think. I don't think I was. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I was scared to put the comforter in the washing

0:45:55.280 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 1>machine because it was so big. Yeah, get dry. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that kind of money, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So I really pre kaling, especially pre kalin um. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny too, because we have like five sets of

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<v Speaker 1>bed sheets for our bed because like Caalen is always

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<v Speaker 1>like cycling through them and cleaning them and stuff. And

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>there's like three of the colors. I absolutely hate if

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like a white bed set, I hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have like this weird like dark blue and

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<v Speaker 1>every time she puts it on, she like she like

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<v Speaker 1>comes and like pulls me into the room and she

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<v Speaker 1>goes look at her new bed sheets. And every single time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Healing, these are hideous, and she's like so

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<v Speaker 1>excited about him. I'm like, these are the most disgusting

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<v Speaker 1>bed sheets ever seen my life. Like these are already

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<v Speaker 1>dirty to me, just even though you just pulled them

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<v Speaker 1>out of the washing machine. Um. But yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do appreciate her doing that because otherwise I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have changed my bed sheets for a long time. No way,

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<v Speaker 1>it would still be once every six weeks for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. That's okay, all right, Well that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it. For this week's episode of help I Suck

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<v Speaker 1>at Dating. Like we said, we do have a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>coming out. In a podcast episode coming out on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to take your calls. That's right, no

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>more listener emails. Instead, we're gonna do listener phone calls,

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 1>So make sure you tune in on Thursday. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have three help By Suck at Dating callers call into us.

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Mari is going to stick around for that podcast episode,

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<v Speaker 1>which is fantastic, So it's gonna be Dean, myself, Marie

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>answering your your phone calls. But as of right now, Mari,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for joining us and catching up,

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:28.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, on your life. What's going on going over

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:31.439
<v Speaker 1>the hot topics, most importantly, what was happening with Ms

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<v Speaker 1>Mrs Jennifer Affleck Uh. Even though Dean is very much

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:39.359
<v Speaker 1>tired of me talking about this affleck trying situation, I'm

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:41.879
<v Speaker 1>not tired about you talking about it. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes you get stuck in a situation where you

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 1>could you could lively if we don't interrupt you, you you

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 1>could literally go for hours and hours. It's just because

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<v Speaker 1>I also love the fact that he is just like

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:59.400
<v Speaker 1>he's just like he's dating like the queen, not just

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<v Speaker 1>a queen, like it's j Lo. It's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like Pete Davidson and Kid Kardashian a little bit, you know,

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, dude, that's like, she's such a queen

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and like Ben's awesome, don't me wrong. So it's Pete Davidson,

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 1>but it's just like so obscure Ben. For as much Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>for as much of a superstar as he is, he

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 1>does seem like he's just like a regular guy, you know, totally. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I freaking love it. Like there's this one clip where

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<v Speaker 1>he's walking like he's like smiling at a fan. Somebody

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 1>walks out. He was, oh, yeah, thank you, and then

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>as soon as he turns away from the fan, he

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 1>goes from smiling to like dead straight face. He's like

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's the most relatable moment where he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much and just watch and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that was the most amazing thing I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen in my entire life. Annie, who thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us this week on help by

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<v Speaker 1>Second Dating Dune in next week, where hopefully we all

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<v Speaker 1>suck just a little less hollow help By Suck at

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<v Speaker 1>Dating on I Heart Radio or wherever you listen to

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