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Speaker 1: I missed you guys so much. Thank you for taking
Speaker 1: care of me last week and filling in. Um We're
Speaker 1: back with our fury. This week is season three premiere. UM.
Speaker 1: So much happened in this episode, including what a ton
Speaker 1: of a d R which will explain what. But first
Speaker 1: things first, Haley came home the night of the fire,
Speaker 1: which Dan somehow survived. Honestly, Dan, so do you yes? Um?
Speaker 1: Three months have passed, Nathan ended up going to High Flyers.
Speaker 1: He still doesn't know if he can trust Haley again.
Speaker 1: Brook moves into Nathan and Haley's old apartment, which is
Speaker 1: my favorite set. Like, I love hanging out in that
Speaker 1: set and I love that they never made us give
Speaker 1: it up. We just rotated it. Uh. Peyton is still
Speaker 1: emotionally struggling over what now, like what now her birth mother?
Speaker 1: And then Brooke and Lucas start casually dating. Were they
Speaker 1: dating though, Like I don't know the whole Yeah, the
Speaker 1: whole like friends with benefit thing in the early two
Speaker 1: thousands was weird because it was like kind of this
Speaker 1: like girl power movement of we're not going to be
Speaker 1: your girlfriend, We're just gonna kiss anybody because we can
Speaker 1: be like boys. Um, I feel like we got kind
Speaker 1: of hoodwinked on that. Yeah we did. I think we go.
Speaker 1: I feel like a guy I made this up and
Speaker 1: said it was our idea. You know what it is
Speaker 1: the same guy you know have like Victoria's secret. When
Speaker 1: they started doing like all the angel like fashion shows,
Speaker 1: we were told like, oh, this is girl power, love
Speaker 1: your body, and then we find out all these years
Speaker 1: later it was like super misogynistic and just dudes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the movement. They're like, tit's up, girls,
Speaker 1: tits up? Oh my god, just kissing. It's interesting. I
Speaker 1: will say, as much as I'm like on the on
Speaker 1: the idea, what I did like is that the the
Speaker 1: director of this episode, um, Greg Praine, who was you know,
Speaker 1: our on site producer, who knew us all really well.
Speaker 1: He did like to lean into what more was going
Speaker 1: on with the characters than was on the page, because
Speaker 1: he was present for every single episode, and so I
Speaker 1: led about these characters. I know he did, he really did.
Speaker 1: And I liked that he offered me space as an
Speaker 1: actor two say the lines, we're going to be casual
Speaker 1: and whatever, but then to show that it was a
Speaker 1: defense mechanism. Of course, Brooke was testing Lucas to see
Speaker 1: if he would play by her rules and keep showing
Speaker 1: up and sort of earn her trust. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: we had someone familiar to do that with because otherwise
Speaker 1: I think it would well, they would want you to
Speaker 1: make it like sexy and it's not. It's You're totally
Speaker 1: right when you say it's a defense mechanism. It's how
Speaker 1: far can I push you and you'll keep your promise
Speaker 1: to support me? And you know, my Brook needs after
Speaker 1: what she's been through with the last few guys and
Speaker 1: with Lucas also like she needs to be able to
Speaker 1: push a little bit and know that he's not just
Speaker 1: going to blow away with the wind. Yeah. Brooke also
Speaker 1: came back like Sabrina from Paris with the bangs that
Speaker 1: I loved so much. When the last time the banks?
Speaker 1: Have you done this again, Sophia? Yeah, I come since then, God,
Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was like just after my
Speaker 1: thirtieth birthday. I can't believe you didn't cut pandemic bangs.
Speaker 1: Everybody on the planet cut pandemic bangs, and you're so
Speaker 1: good with them. I really do enjoy them. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a cowlic and so unless I blow drive
Speaker 1: them out like, they go into directions. So I've learned
Speaker 1: that bangs are a bit high maintenance for me. But man,
Speaker 1: did I like these bangs. And I feel vindicated that
Speaker 1: all the ladies are in support because I got yelled
Speaker 1: at when I cut these bangs for our boss. It
Speaker 1: was a real dick. Oh yeah, and all these years later,
Speaker 1: I think they stand the test of time. So he
Speaker 1: can off. My bangs were great. You can just grab
Speaker 1: the off right off. Sorry everyone at home. We're spicy tonight.
Speaker 1: It's so spicy. I have my spicy tequila tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're doing an evening podcast. We're all happily charged. We
Speaker 1: I wonder if fans can tell the difference when we
Speaker 1: do early morning podcast versus like late night, Like we
Speaker 1: should let them guests from now on, like Morning or Night.
Speaker 1: We should take a pole every week. We should actually
Speaker 1: do a poll. That would be so stories. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a good idea. Was that Morning or Night episode is
Speaker 1: a drunk history edition? Are we going to do a
Speaker 1: drunk o t h history where we have to tell
Speaker 1: the story of what happened all season long? But like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like when you and I did lame
Speaker 1: is in four minutes or something, We're going to do
Speaker 1: a sloppy recap of season two? Um no, I guys,
Speaker 1: I really really like season three. I have you know,
Speaker 1: anytime the fans ask us what seasons our favorite? Historically,
Speaker 1: for me, it's three because I you know, I love Shirley,
Speaker 1: I love Kevin Kilner, who shows up in this episode.
Speaker 1: Like I don't have crying all the time, but jeez,
Speaker 1: I got to work with like, you know, people I loved,
Speaker 1: and we all looked so cute this season, like you
Speaker 1: and your little haircut. Everybody's hair was so good. Everybody's
Speaker 1: got a great braw on and tank tops. What was
Speaker 1: that bra because it was the same one, guys, it
Speaker 1: had such a specific front cut, Like yeah, I know
Speaker 1: it was enjoy. You're the one who spotted it. You
Speaker 1: were like, we're wearing the same bra, and that's a
Speaker 1: perfect I don't know what it is, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: want it. It probably comes from the terrible era of
Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret Friends with Benefit bra. That's where else was
Speaker 1: there at a shop for There were really no alternatives,
Speaker 1: especially not in you know, the one Victoria's Secret at
Speaker 1: the mall. That was it. That was it, I know.
Speaker 1: But everybody did look really good. We looked cute. We
Speaker 1: were we were covering the the basis of Oh my god,
Speaker 1: like you had the Sophia, you had like the Sandra
Speaker 1: Bullock thing going on, Oh my god, had Meg Ryan.
Speaker 1: And I'm an climb into Julia Roberts territory because you
Speaker 1: never know when my hair is gonna go curly. And
Speaker 1: I think I think we have this sort of like
Speaker 1: rom com queen trifecta happening in the in the in
Speaker 1: the season three, I'm excited about seeing the rest of
Speaker 1: I'm really excited, you know what to this is when
Speaker 1: the like hocus pocus, um, not hocus pocus. What am
Speaker 1: I thinking? I'm practicle magic Hill. This is what the
Speaker 1: practicable magic things started for us when people were like,
Speaker 1: you guys should do Bullock and Kidman. I think, Joy,
Speaker 1: you just nailed it. I think it's the haircuts this season.
Speaker 1: I who was our costumer this year? I can't even remember,
Speaker 1: but we had somebody different come in. Was it a
Speaker 1: guy he was seasoned four? Oh? There. I just feel
Speaker 1: like there were some changings of the guard between two
Speaker 1: and three, and you can see all of us feel
Speaker 1: like more comfortable. Um yeah, like I can get comfortable
Speaker 1: in those orange pants for myself now in your pants on.
Speaker 1: But listen, I'm telling you this episode was all tank
Speaker 1: tops all the time, Like except for Nathan, who's not
Speaker 1: wearing a shirt at all the whole episode. That's a
Speaker 1: good d D of choice for him. Though we should
Speaker 1: tell James be like, wa hey, we made an executive
Speaker 1: decision for you. Don't wear shirts? A good choice. As
Speaker 1: your friends, we'd like to tell you we have an opinion.
Speaker 1: I just love Okay, So do you guys remember when
Speaker 1: we were filming this whole like who killed Dan? Thing?
Speaker 1: How obsessed our bosses were about creating the same kind
Speaker 1: of energy around our show that that show Doubtlas had
Speaker 1: about like who shot Ja? Oh my gosh, Hillary, I
Speaker 1: forgot about that. They were obsessed. We would never stop
Speaker 1: talking about it. And by the way, you know it worked.
Speaker 1: It's sort of yeah. I mean it literally would have
Speaker 1: been anyone except you or me, because in the end
Speaker 1: montage of the show, they show every single character on
Speaker 1: our show angry at Dan, except for Brooke and Peyton.
Speaker 1: We're crying about other show. You guys are all trying
Speaker 1: to kill Dan. It did feel like an episode of Clue.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, it was Hayley in the
Speaker 1: library with a candlestick. That's what the forties episode should
Speaker 1: have been. Oh my god, it should have been Clue.
Speaker 1: It's not too late. What if we did What if
Speaker 1: we did One Tree Hill Clue the movie? Yes, but
Speaker 1: Lose your Own Adventure. The end of the series, Dan
Speaker 1: is dead. So who would be like the next victim
Speaker 1: on the show? If we're gonna do One Tree Hill Clue?
Speaker 1: Who dies next? Okay, who's the next victim after Dan? Rachel?
Speaker 1: But she's not around yet? Who else? Who's who's the
Speaker 1: bad guy? There's no other villain. He's the only villain.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess Deb maybe would go next. Oh,
Speaker 1: it would be such a shame it would be, but
Speaker 1: I don't know, like she's the only one that seems
Speaker 1: to have that, like she could go bad if she
Speaker 1: Why does it have to be a main character? What
Speaker 1: if somebody dies in Tree Hill and then the rest
Speaker 1: of us have to investigate and prove our innocence. I
Speaker 1: didn't do it, guys, I didn't. I've been on a
Speaker 1: webcam this whole time, being watched by Watch Me Watch You,
Speaker 1: which we didn't revisit in this episode, and I kind
Speaker 1: of wish they had just to recap and remind us
Speaker 1: that there was something creepy going on, because that was
Speaker 1: a weird mislead in the end of last season. It
Speaker 1: was very strange, and also they made such a big
Speaker 1: deal out of it, even in the beginning of the
Speaker 1: episode where Peyton and Lucas are having this moment where
Speaker 1: they're becoming like real friends again, and she's like, I've
Speaker 1: been getting these creepy emails, and I'm like, first of all,
Speaker 1: they're on a I am and second of all, we're
Speaker 1: never going to talk about them again, like you confide
Speaker 1: in him about it, and then they disappear, which feels strange.
Speaker 1: It feels not like a sixteen year old girl, because
Speaker 1: what I can tell you, having been a sixteen year
Speaker 1: old girl, is that when we're weirded out about something,
Speaker 1: we talk about it all the fucking time. Like we
Speaker 1: don't just like drop it and then walk away. No,
Speaker 1: it's so high school. Yeah, you fixate on it. What
Speaker 1: I will say though, is that Peyton lives in this
Speaker 1: world have watched me watch you for a while, like
Speaker 1: for a couple of seasons, and um, I I am
Speaker 1: so paranoid anytime I stay in a hotel room or
Speaker 1: like an airbnb or something that there are cameras everywhere.
Speaker 1: Like the speed was always checking the events, the air conditions.
Speaker 1: I check every event. Do you know there's an app
Speaker 1: on your phone that can scan for hidden cameras? Because
Speaker 1: I do, because Peyton Sawyer traumatized me. So now I'm
Speaker 1: just out there scanning every room I go into watch this.
Speaker 1: I'm really I'm into it. I think it's smart. I
Speaker 1: think everybody should do it. That should be the name
Speaker 1: of the app watch Watch. I see you, you pervert,
Speaker 1: I see you you stop me from watching you. You
Speaker 1: know what else was creepy in this episode is that
Speaker 1: face in Peyton's bedroom that they kept shining a light on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why did that face get a feature light? It's not right.
Speaker 1: It was a sculpture. What was it. We're in season
Speaker 1: three and Joy is like, what is that thing on
Speaker 1: your desk? I'm just like, baby, that's been there since
Speaker 1: the pilot. It was like it was like a dummy head.
Speaker 1: It was literally like a mannequin head, but the hair
Speaker 1: part had been removed and so there was like pencils
Speaker 1: in it, like it was like a pencil holder on
Speaker 1: the desk, and of course that's the thing they spotlight
Speaker 1: and it's so but like Lucas is having this very
Speaker 1: sincere He's really trying to talk to you, and all
Speaker 1: I can see behind him is this strange like a
Speaker 1: boogieman sculpture. Also, I must say there you can tell
Speaker 1: when something gets highlighted and when it doesn't. And in
Speaker 1: this episode, that head and that like d whatever that
Speaker 1: poster was. Yeah, they were like characters in the show.
Speaker 1: Why were they? So here's what I think. Here's what
Speaker 1: I think. If you notice everyone's wearing a white tank
Speaker 1: top in this episode, people's hair rarely changes and we
Speaker 1: are constantly in front of the same backgrounds. I think
Speaker 1: we blocked shot the that of this episode because they
Speaker 1: interesting so much time on the fire like, like, there
Speaker 1: were certain things we had to spend a ton of
Speaker 1: time on, and so the other stuff, like the scene work,
Speaker 1: I think we blocked shot it. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we've explained block shooting to people at home, but somebody
Speaker 1: explain it. Tell him what, tell him what it is,
Speaker 1: Tell him what it is, all right now, guys, you're
Speaker 1: the directors. I'm just the bitchy actress. Block shooting is
Speaker 1: when you take everything that's in one location in the
Speaker 1: whole episode and you film it all at one time,
Speaker 1: or if there's direct yeah, and in the in the
Speaker 1: directions so that you're facing I've actually feel like we've
Speaker 1: explained this on the show before, but I can't remember.
Speaker 1: So you just face the same direction, and everybody who's
Speaker 1: in that scene, uh or in scenes in that episode
Speaker 1: in that location will file in and do their scene
Speaker 1: in that direction. So everybody's there all day long just
Speaker 1: waiting for their direction to be up. So you face
Speaker 1: the window, then you turn around and face the other side,
Speaker 1: and then you Sometimes it's four ways and then a
Speaker 1: wide shot, so it can be quite complicated and sometimes
Speaker 1: in order to avoid the cameras having to move all
Speaker 1: day long, all the way around the room, around the room,
Speaker 1: around the room, around the room. They just stay in
Speaker 1: one place for four hours and then move again and
Speaker 1: stay in that place for another four or five hours,
Speaker 1: and then it's not the best way to do. I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's not. It's a super big time saver,
Speaker 1: you know. But you can also tell to like you're
Speaker 1: not moving, um, the other things to lose their minds
Speaker 1: a little bit. All my scenes, Peyton doesn't look at anybody.
Speaker 1: It's like Chat over my shoulder or Kevin Kilner over
Speaker 1: my shoulder, because when you away, it's two actors looking
Speaker 1: in the same direction. So you only need to set
Speaker 1: up the camera once. Yeah, So we were saving tons
Speaker 1: of times so that that fire would be the most
Speaker 1: epic fire that ever fired. I remember driving out there
Speaker 1: that night hill we were so palm the build up
Speaker 1: of this fire. It was like, guys, you're never going
Speaker 1: to see anything like it ever again in the history
Speaker 1: of your careers. There's going to be an explosion. We
Speaker 1: were like, okay. I also just remember being amped to
Speaker 1: stand in that parking lot because we were like, there's
Speaker 1: some than to know. Oh, my god, there was just
Speaker 1: something to do the Deluxe or go to the movie theater,
Speaker 1: and we were thrilled blowing stuff up. We were in
Speaker 1: the parking lot of the Independent small What is that road?
Speaker 1: Is that on Eastwood? Um? I can't remember anymore, but
Speaker 1: you know it's road, the big one. It's the road
Speaker 1: with the freaking Victoria's Secret mall, Hot Topic, Victoria's Secret,
Speaker 1: what other stores packs on? There was? We had everything.
Speaker 1: We were living the dream blowing stuff up in the
Speaker 1: parking lot. I remember us sitting in our cars being like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the coolest thing ever, and everyone
Speaker 1: made it sound like it was gonna be so dangerous,
Speaker 1: and looking back at it now, I'm like, it's a fire.
Speaker 1: Like the building on fire. It's a building on fire.
Speaker 1: Were we super controlled so it felt it still felt safe?
Speaker 1: I guess were we worried about Dan? Like, did anyone
Speaker 1: really think Dan was gonna die? Besides death? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's awfully hard to be worried about Dan since we
Speaker 1: know what happens. It's kind of like you know what
Speaker 1: happens with the Titanic, but like no one is surprised
Speaker 1: at the movie, but your heart broken guys, that feels right.
Speaker 1: He really is spurs not going anywhere. Yeah, I spurgs
Speaker 1: not moving for you. Um. But I will say I
Speaker 1: do think at the time when the show was airing,
Speaker 1: people really did wonder if he was going to die. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so too. It was a big deal. It
Speaker 1: was it big. Who done it? Like what's going to happen?
Speaker 1: I think they did splashes on Entertainment Weekly on it.
Speaker 1: I think it was kind of all over all the
Speaker 1: little pop culture spots like what's going to happen to Dan?
Speaker 1: And you can tell even in the way that it
Speaker 1: was written, you know, where the firefighter says something to Barbara,
Speaker 1: you know, to deb and she says, my husband was inside,
Speaker 1: and he goes, they didn't tell you hold on, captain,
Speaker 1: and you think, well, somebody's coming to do a death notification.
Speaker 1: And then he comes around the side of that ambulance,
Speaker 1: sucking on an oxygen mask, and he realizes nobody's happy
Speaker 1: to see him. What did you say it was like, Hillary, Well,
Speaker 1: he looks like a Hannibal lecteror with like the mask,
Speaker 1: but he also looks like another Wilmington icon, Dennis Hopper
Speaker 1: in blue velvet sucking on that oxygen mask just Creepsville. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really fascinated by the scene with Dan in
Speaker 1: the confessional because it's the first time we've ever seen
Speaker 1: him behaving genuinely sincere well, I guess, since I guess
Speaker 1: he's sincerely awful, but in being sincere about his u
Speaker 1: his place in the existential climate, the existential world, where
Speaker 1: does he belong? The first time he's really you know,
Speaker 1: being genuinely being vulnerable without anyone present who he might
Speaker 1: get something from. Unless he's like literally trying, I guess
Speaker 1: because he does ask can I can I get forgiveness
Speaker 1: for something I haven't done already? So is he trying to?
Speaker 1: Is he trying to gaslight God? Is this stands? Fine?
Speaker 1: Doesn't because he doesn't really want forgiveness, I don't think,
Speaker 1: like right, But why is he bothering to go to
Speaker 1: the confessional? That's a really interesting choice to make for
Speaker 1: a person to go to a confessional seeking genuine forgiveness,
Speaker 1: feeling some kind of genuine repentance, and yet also wanting
Speaker 1: to get away with something like seeing if God's going
Speaker 1: to let you get away with something. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's so interesting. I mean, there's a part of me
Speaker 1: that thinks Dan gets his kicks seeing what he can
Speaker 1: get away with, and so going in and basically admitting
Speaker 1: that you're going to do something bad and now you've
Speaker 1: got this pastor you know, privilege of are you going
Speaker 1: to tell on me? What are you going to do
Speaker 1: about it? You know, like if he can pull one
Speaker 1: over on an institution that is supposed to be um,
Speaker 1: I don't know that, like utmost respect, it shows you
Speaker 1: just how very low he is. Uh. But like in
Speaker 1: all seriousness, does someone just sit there all day and
Speaker 1: like you can walk in at any time? I don't
Speaker 1: know what the rules are. Do they don't have hours?
Speaker 1: How does that work? Yeah? You make it my mom
Speaker 1: group Catholic? I should ask her mom, texture I think
Speaker 1: they do have ours. Is it only Catholic churches that
Speaker 1: have confessional or is it yes, it's only Catholic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's private. It was a beautifully shot scene. I
Speaker 1: thought that was really pretty. I liked how it was
Speaker 1: edited because we're coming back after, you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of months, and it reminds the audience of every single
Speaker 1: person that Dan has hurt and I'd forgotten that he
Speaker 1: piste off Whitey and you know, like you forget likely
Speaker 1: assaulted Karen. Karen threw a chair through a window. She
Speaker 1: was so mad. But Paul is so good at going
Speaker 1: back and forth between the sincere and the evil. I
Speaker 1: mean when when Deb comes up to him and he's
Speaker 1: got amnesia so you know, so called amnesia, and he
Speaker 1: can't remember, and he's being so genuine with her, and
Speaker 1: I really thought for a moment like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: maybe this amnesia really really changed him. How does he
Speaker 1: do it every time he gets us? Yeah, he really
Speaker 1: does well. Because the audience, you know, they're like, surely
Speaker 1: at some point is this it? No? No, this isn't
Speaker 1: this no? No, how long can it go on before?
Speaker 1: The audience is like, it's never happening. But it's really
Speaker 1: playing on our emotions. Think about real life, think about
Speaker 1: the people in your life that you know who are
Speaker 1: like that, and you still keep thinking, maybe this is
Speaker 1: the Maybe this is the moment, Maybe this is change
Speaker 1: we do it. This is why there's eight million memes
Speaker 1: out there about like set your boundaries walk away, like exactly.
Speaker 1: I see these Instagram posts. I like them. Um Dan's crazy.
Speaker 1: But Deb also is, you know, like making her gin comments.
Speaker 1: She did she finish up pill rehab and now she's drinking.
Speaker 1: Is that what's happening? She did, but she you're not
Speaker 1: supposed to do that. I'm not supposed to like drink
Speaker 1: after you go get go to rehab for pills. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't know what there is sober. I don't either.
Speaker 1: I think sober is sober. I think you're supposed to
Speaker 1: not do that. So, yeah, she's making these comments and
Speaker 1: she's him, and she turned Karen's into a cyber. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder if maybe she's making because she goes to
Speaker 1: get coffee but she's making jokes about Jin. Is she
Speaker 1: making fun of herself? But it's just not very good writing.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think I understand it. I just
Speaker 1: we still don't know who actually lit the fire, and
Speaker 1: I think it was her. I think even though they're
Speaker 1: alluding to that, it was Lucas. I think you're right.
Speaker 1: Somebody who which one of you said Lucas, Hillary said
Speaker 1: Lucas saves Dan stand fire? I think that was it.
Speaker 1: And the giveaway that Lucas saves Dan is that he
Speaker 1: has the burnt card. So Lucas was in that dealership
Speaker 1: when it was already on fire, But why would he
Speaker 1: Why would you save someone's life and take the card
Speaker 1: that what ties you to the crime scene, Because I
Speaker 1: think he's trying to protect whoever did it, because to Lucas,
Speaker 1: he doesn't know if it was Keith, he doesn't know
Speaker 1: if it was na. He doesn't know like if it
Speaker 1: was his mother or Andy. You know, Lucas is trying
Speaker 1: to protect whoever actually did it because he knows that
Speaker 1: those repercussions are well. And it's smart too, because the
Speaker 1: way they set up the deb and Nathan of it all.
Speaker 1: Nathan comes in and she says, I've been here alone
Speaker 1: all night, which sounds ridiculous and like she's trying to
Speaker 1: establish an alibi. But where was Nathan because it could
Speaker 1: have been so So they start playing tricks on you
Speaker 1: where you're like, well, it could have been her or
Speaker 1: if she was home, it could have been him. And
Speaker 1: she says, we're getting out, and he says, I know
Speaker 1: we are, is it? Because he's making sure they are,
Speaker 1: Like they did a good job establishing the question did
Speaker 1: your husband just walk by with his shirt on? Done?
Speaker 1: He just brought me he has a shirt on under
Speaker 1: that is unbuttoned. Sofia's fiance Grant is, so I have
Speaker 1: to say, uh that he's like, they'll become the wine connoisseur.
Speaker 1: I think over the pandemic, right, he became a wine conisseur.
Speaker 1: He was really into wine even before. But yeah, he's
Speaker 1: now made it like his actual organic For me, yes,
Speaker 1: but it's all like organic, bio dio dynamics, biodynamic. Can
Speaker 1: I just tell you. I went over to Soaf's house
Speaker 1: and we sat and had dinner, and I drank way
Speaker 1: more wine than I usually do. I'd usually stop at
Speaker 1: a glass and a half because I have to drive home,
Speaker 1: or I just I also just don't like the way
Speaker 1: I feel in the morning and after drinking wine the headache,
Speaker 1: I feel awful, so it's not worth it to me anymore.
Speaker 1: So a glass and a half is usually my limit.
Speaker 1: I definitely went over that, and I tell you, I
Speaker 1: woke up the next morning and felt fine, yeah, fine,
Speaker 1: there's no nothing and nothing. What is this magic? And
Speaker 1: it's because they're all organic wines, because it's not wine
Speaker 1: that makes you feel bad, it's the creepy additives that
Speaker 1: they're allowed to put in it. Grant explained it to
Speaker 1: me this way, which I thought was such A good
Speaker 1: way to understand it is that they've basically made wine
Speaker 1: into Coca cola like they wanted to taste. They want
Speaker 1: every attle to taste the same every time, and wine
Speaker 1: is alive. That's not how it works, you know. And
Speaker 1: so when you drink um completely organic, natural wine, biodynamic
Speaker 1: wine that doesn't have one legally allowed additives in it,
Speaker 1: like most of the wine that comes off a shelf. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, he'll run wine tastings for people over here,
Speaker 1: and you're like, we'll start with a white and then
Speaker 1: go to an orange, and then we'll do a light red,
Speaker 1: and then we'll do a red and everyone's like, what's happening?
Speaker 1: And everybody the next day is like, I don't have
Speaker 1: a headache. I feel great, okay, because you didn't get poisoned.
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Speaker 1: just cart it around with us when we take this
Speaker 1: show on the road. Folks. That's right. Well, you know
Speaker 1: who really needed a glass of wine in this episode?
Speaker 1: Was Hayley work you had to do in this episode?
Speaker 1: Did that beautiful scene between you guys when you come
Speaker 1: in and you ask him if he's awake? Hey, you guys? God,
Speaker 1: that scene was so good. The kissing. I cried. It hurted.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it made me tear, it hurt. I
Speaker 1: remember filming that, and uh, it's It's so one of
Speaker 1: those things where the muscle memory, the visceral muscle memory
Speaker 1: of filming it came rushing back to me and um,
Speaker 1: because we spent a long time in that room that day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe a lot of scenes, but we spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time in that room. And James and I had
Speaker 1: not done any scenes like that before. We had the
Speaker 1: one in the at the concert backstage, which was really
Speaker 1: just me giving a speech and then he leaves. So
Speaker 1: the back and forth, the combative like being a married
Speaker 1: couple struggling. James and I had not done anything like that. Also,
Speaker 1: James was very aloof and he still is. He's a
Speaker 1: very aloof guy. It's one of the great things he
Speaker 1: was going for him to, you know. Um, But but
Speaker 1: he's a good totally and so I never I'm you know,
Speaker 1: very I'm a musical theater kid. I'm like, no, no, no, like,
Speaker 1: you know, what do I have to do all my
Speaker 1: feelings on a platter right here? I'm giving to you.
Speaker 1: And James was always so poker faced, and so I
Speaker 1: never knew whether he liked me or not. And I
Speaker 1: really wanted him to like me, just like as a friend,
Speaker 1: like be. I just wanted to know that he liked
Speaker 1: me as a person approval, and then I wasn't hopelessly
Speaker 1: annoying to him. And so that was always that was
Speaker 1: always going on in the back of my mind. So
Speaker 1: I remember when we filmed these scenes, it was actually
Speaker 1: particularly painful for me to have rejecting me joy Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it tapped because it tapped into a very real fear.
Speaker 1: You were like, he doesn't like me, and in this
Speaker 1: scene having like he doesn't like me. Oh no. It's
Speaker 1: so I totally get it because we do work in
Speaker 1: this world where like, like I would say, most of
Speaker 1: the people that we work with are incredibly like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's be best friends. Let's it's like puppies, right, It's
Speaker 1: like it's just like, you know, getting a pile and
Speaker 1: kuddle and tell each other all our secrets and because
Speaker 1: James is not like that, Like James is very sure
Speaker 1: of who he is and he doesn't need to project,
Speaker 1: and he's like, he's just different. There's a calmness to
Speaker 1: him where he didn't need the same validation that we did.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I felt the same thing, joy because I
Speaker 1: was always like, well, why don't you want to share
Speaker 1: like secrets, Like why don't want Yeah, totally tell me
Speaker 1: you're feelings into an elevator in Paris. I got an
Speaker 1: elevator with him and my pair who had come out
Speaker 1: to watch Maria, and we all got an elevator together.
Speaker 1: He gets off the elevator and my old pair who's German,
Speaker 1: and you know, they're very stoic. He gets off the
Speaker 1: elevator and she's like, he's calm. Yes, we're frantic people,
Speaker 1: we are, We're frantic. But I think I think that
Speaker 1: was also why he he had such a good grounding
Speaker 1: energy for all of us, because you're right that that
Speaker 1: desired a puppy pile that you talk about. It's like
Speaker 1: it's summer camp, it's camp friends. It's like we're in
Speaker 1: this cabin and we're going to be friends forever. If
Speaker 1: you're going to know everything about me. And James was
Speaker 1: always he would look at us. You know what he
Speaker 1: reminds me of. It's like the rancher who watches all
Speaker 1: the baby horses run around like Jim's waste. James was
Speaker 1: in Yellowstone. We were on one dree Home. By the way,
Speaker 1: he should absolutely be on Yellowstone, he should be on
Speaker 1: that show. But he was just very much like, all right, psychos,
Speaker 1: run arounduntil you're tired and then I'll feed you from
Speaker 1: We were like, okay, like that's who he is, and
Speaker 1: he still is. It's like a that's yeah, we gotta
Speaker 1: you know what the moral of the stories we needed
Speaker 1: by James accoutoyant. Yeah, I'm down for that. We'll just
Speaker 1: send it to him with no note. He know he
Speaker 1: made smart choices too, because he was like, I have
Speaker 1: my real friends. They're my friends from home and my
Speaker 1: little brother. And that was something that it took me
Speaker 1: a very long time to learn. In our business is
Speaker 1: like a boundary is important, and keeping your home and
Speaker 1: your work life separate is is a very important tool.
Speaker 1: And jamesonhow figured that out as a child, So kudos
Speaker 1: to him, man, I appreciate it. I wish i'd know, no,
Speaker 1: really really nailed it. But God, isn't that funny. I've
Speaker 1: had that joy, that thing you talk about like Hillary,
Speaker 1: I even remember having it with you. So I was
Speaker 1: totally standoffish and weird on our show. Well, but you
Speaker 1: went in phases because and then it was for me,
Speaker 1: like even inside of our friendship, like we'd be doing
Speaker 1: these scenes where you know, we get to the point
Speaker 1: where brooking Peyton or fighting, and I'm like, it feels
Speaker 1: personal though, like it's on the script, but I feel
Speaker 1: uncomfortable in the scene, and it's really it's breaking my
Speaker 1: real heart, not my brooke heart. Help me, do you
Speaker 1: guys that I did always? Of course, of course, ye dude,
Speaker 1: even like there's there's I have to remind myself to
Speaker 1: not take it personally. It's okay because it feels really
Speaker 1: our job is to make the feelings on the page reel.
Speaker 1: And I think when you finally learned that that can
Speaker 1: emotionally make you feel crazy, you learn coping skills. But
Speaker 1: like God, there were days when we were shooting up
Speaker 1: in Toronto were like Jason and I would be battling
Speaker 1: in these scenes and then we we'd finished the scene
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, Jason Isaacs, it's me. Sophia friended me.
Speaker 1: I need you to hug me, you know, and and
Speaker 1: then you know, he'd be in a sweet little British
Speaker 1: accent like, oh, darling, and I was like, I just
Speaker 1: need to remember in my body that it's not real. Oh.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love asking for that. I remember
Speaker 1: in my body. We didn't know to do that when
Speaker 1: we were doing our show. Like you would have never
Speaker 1: said to James, this has made me very uncomfortable. Could
Speaker 1: you hug me because you're my friend like you would
Speaker 1: have never. Would you please let me know that you
Speaker 1: don't hate me, Hold me, hold me, James. He would
Speaker 1: be like a fresh sure, I don't hate you. I
Speaker 1: don't hate you. And he would have rolled his eyes
Speaker 1: when he said it, and he'd be like, but you
Speaker 1: look like you do. It's like why, I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: that's an artist thing. I've since I was young. I
Speaker 1: remember always being so paranoid, terrified every room I walked
Speaker 1: into that nobody liked me for no reason. Does that
Speaker 1: ever go away? I don't know. I guys, I still
Speaker 1: feel that way constantly too. I go to the grocery
Speaker 1: store and talk to a check out woman for too
Speaker 1: long and like, you know, ask her about where she
Speaker 1: got her nails done, and also I like your hair
Speaker 1: and leave feeling like, oh no, oh no, I messed up,
Speaker 1: Like she's gonna think I'm a psycho. And then I'm
Speaker 1: going to wait for her outside in the parking lot,
Speaker 1: you know, like on the way out, you're like, by
Speaker 1: the way, not not single white female, just think you're awesome.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, why did I say that? Like? Can I
Speaker 1: have your number? You knowends the it's the weird vacillating
Speaker 1: between really being sincere and just like I like you,
Speaker 1: I think you're cool, and then also the thing of
Speaker 1: perpetuating this do you like me? Do you like me?
Speaker 1: And then people who are good at detecting bullsh I've
Speaker 1: definitely encountered some of those people when I'm in a
Speaker 1: spin and I'm feeling like I need people to like
Speaker 1: me and they just are not having it, not because
Speaker 1: they don't like me, but because they're not interested in
Speaker 1: my need for them to like me. That makes sense,
Speaker 1: Like they can tell that everything that I'm doing is
Speaker 1: only is not really because I'm interested in them, It's
Speaker 1: because I am trying to get some kind of reaction
Speaker 1: out of them to feed myself. Okay, that is some
Speaker 1: major therapy growth, right there. Can we just like like
Speaker 1: have a desire to like snap for that, Like that's
Speaker 1: a big fucking deal. Pause You're like, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is triggering my need for validation. Understood that that's
Speaker 1: some serious grown up lady growth. Yeah, do we need
Speaker 1: to acknowledge when that happens? Like am I doing this
Speaker 1: really for you? Or is this really just all about me?
Speaker 1: And I need to just like allow you to have
Speaker 1: whatever feelings you're having, whether you like me or on
Speaker 1: and just I can share my feelings for you genuinely
Speaker 1: and then walk away. But I don't need to perpetuate
Speaker 1: this like song and dance to make sure that you
Speaker 1: like me, and then I can walk away being like, Okay,
Speaker 1: another another person likes me. Good check check that off
Speaker 1: the list. What is the worst? What is the worst
Speaker 1: like fake fight you've had on a job where you
Speaker 1: have been like scared as real, like because our show
Speaker 1: we were babies and so we didn't know how to
Speaker 1: separate fact and fiction very well. But yeah, like I
Speaker 1: played a mistress on a TV show that Tony Collette
Speaker 1: was the lead in and her husband was Tate Donovan,
Speaker 1: and so I was supposed to be having this affair
Speaker 1: with Tate Donovan, and I was so excited to work
Speaker 1: with Tony Colette. And she was just like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need you to stay away from me, and and she
Speaker 1: was so lovely but like very professional, but also like
Speaker 1: we can't be girlfriends. And I just remember being like,
Speaker 1: oh no, oh no, I've come off so hyper. I've
Speaker 1: come all like the mistress, you know, because like my
Speaker 1: character had to apologize to her and be like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm so sorry. You're such an awesome woman
Speaker 1: and I didn't know, and like I'm like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm perpetuating this in real life because I'm like, I
Speaker 1: think you're so cool and I like your hair, and
Speaker 1: also your shoes are really pretty today, you know. Like
Speaker 1: that was the weirdest I've ever felt professionally, because I
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, I swear I'm a normal person.
Speaker 1: I swear I'm just playing a horror. I'm just playing
Speaker 1: hor Oh my god, I don't know. I'm I'm really
Speaker 1: trying to think of um oh, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean maybe I'm just thinking about it because I literally
Speaker 1: was just talking about it. But when we had that
Speaker 1: fight on the front lawn of Peyton's house, that would hurt.
Speaker 1: That that to me up for a bit, me too,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't feel okay and and I think we
Speaker 1: both were like wounded and then didn't want to say
Speaker 1: it but could see it on each other's faces. So
Speaker 1: we just kind of like you were literally wounded your skull.
Speaker 1: Like we had a moment I was like, something is wrong, um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. It felt Oh, I just
Speaker 1: felt so awful into something like dark yeah, to like
Speaker 1: girl wounds, to like the betrayal of the you know,
Speaker 1: the first best friend betrayal you ever go through, or whatever,
Speaker 1: and it just felt big and painful. And it was
Speaker 1: two thousand five and no one was in therapy yet,
Speaker 1: so it was really hard to do with better. No
Speaker 1: we had no like mental health leaders on Instagram sharing
Speaker 1: inspiring infographics in your morning feet would have been amazing.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if they had actually just made like
Speaker 1: Beth Crooka maybe like or somebody kind of like her
Speaker 1: who was just ten years older than us, so still
Speaker 1: young and cool, but like clearly had her together. It
Speaker 1: just made someone like that are like a guidance counselor
Speaker 1: on why didn't we have a guidens counselor, especially because
Speaker 1: there were so many big things we were going through
Speaker 1: and people treated us like grown ups, but we were kids.
Speaker 1: And then we were like, well, we can't admit that
Speaker 1: we feel like kids, because we're supposed to be the
Speaker 1: grow we're you know, employees, Like we're supposed to have
Speaker 1: it all together, so we just like fumbled around for
Speaker 1: years dumb. Do you think that in in other professions,
Speaker 1: which we I mean, none of us can really know
Speaker 1: because we don't do anything else, But I wonder if
Speaker 1: this is you know, we think this is an extraordinary
Speaker 1: problem just for actors, but maybe in other professions other
Speaker 1: people feel, especially young people coming out of college or
Speaker 1: going you know, going into new jobs or internships. I mean,
Speaker 1: I wonder if kind of the pressure is the same everywhere.
Speaker 1: I think the public notoriety, like that's something else. Well,
Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna say. I think the pressure is
Speaker 1: very similar. I think the pressure of public notoriety is hard.
Speaker 1: And I also think the utter lack of boundaries in
Speaker 1: film and television, Like when you go to work at
Speaker 1: an office, you're doing spreadsheets. You're not doing like emotional
Speaker 1: scenes where you're fighting your best friend whose parent has died. Like,
Speaker 1: that's not in the wheelhouse. Take a clothes off, you
Speaker 1: look in that bathing suit. Yeah, Like that's not in
Speaker 1: the wheelhouse of a typical nine to five. Not to
Speaker 1: say people don't get pushed around and harassed in all
Speaker 1: the things, but you're not emotionally manipulating yourself in a
Speaker 1: group for your job with no guidance or help. Like,
Speaker 1: so I do feel like, I'll say, I've got a
Speaker 1: lot of work in healthcare and they do emotionally manipulate
Speaker 1: themselves because they have to. That's compartment in a way
Speaker 1: that we had to where it's like feelings, I can
Speaker 1: control these things. Well, yeah, how do you witness suffering
Speaker 1: every day and do your job? If you're a doctor,
Speaker 1: if you're a nurse, if you work in a hospital, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get real good at disassociating, which, well you have
Speaker 1: to as a profession for any of us. The suffering
Speaker 1: person has to look at you and see a stable person.
Speaker 1: They can't see you breaking down well to that extent
Speaker 1: because the hairdressers have to do the same thing, you know,
Speaker 1: So it's like you can find glimmers of this, of
Speaker 1: that same thread. Yeah, like shadows of it. When you
Speaker 1: are taking care of other people, you are not allowed
Speaker 1: to authentically feel your feelings, and so especially when you're
Speaker 1: a young person, it gets, you know, sloppy. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: gets sloppy. And so I think the nicest thing we
Speaker 1: can do is say, hey, your twenties are real sloppy, Sure,
Speaker 1: love you anyway, and forties get way better. Kids, they
Speaker 1: get so fun. Want to learn some of the stuff
Speaker 1: we learned, will pass it on to you, and we'll
Speaker 1: also give you a discount for therapy. You're welcome, Right's right?
Speaker 1: You know, please cut to the ad right now. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's the best transition I've ever done. That
Speaker 1: there's my directing at But it actually is really interesting
Speaker 1: because thinking about the sort of tessellations of that expectation
Speaker 1: to serve the group, you see our characters grappling with it.
Speaker 1: You know, Hailey made a choice for herself and is
Speaker 1: punished for it, and granted it was messy, but she's
Speaker 1: a teenager. What was she supposed to know. Peyton is
Speaker 1: having a real hard time, you know, not taking this
Speaker 1: family stuff personally, and and is struggling to express how
Speaker 1: she feels, and has this conflict with her father because
Speaker 1: she feels betrayed and and Brooke doesn't want to get hurt,
Speaker 1: so she's putting up all these walls and boundaries and
Speaker 1: saying like, I'm in control of this, but really she
Speaker 1: doesn't feel good about it. And all these kids are
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out how to get back to
Speaker 1: normal before they were heartbroken. But you can't unbreak heart,
Speaker 1: and so you're just not the same after a heartbreak
Speaker 1: as you were when you were like an innocent, little
Speaker 1: freshly hatched chickling. Going to write a country song. I'm
Speaker 1: going to write a country song called you Can't Break
Speaker 1: Break Heart. Thank you, So I please write us that song.
Speaker 1: Um So, I just don't matter what you do, you
Speaker 1: can't own break a heart see the win a Grammy.
Speaker 1: But I just think there's something really interesting about that,
Speaker 1: not only in the landscape of our show, but in
Speaker 1: this larger landscape of talking about how, even as grown
Speaker 1: women in rooms, sometimes we don't feel like we know
Speaker 1: what to do with our feelings. Yeah. I read a book.
Speaker 1: It's a novel. It's called Elegance by Kathleen Testsero. I
Speaker 1: read it last year. What a Name? And Uh. It's
Speaker 1: about a woman who's um getting out of a marriage,
Speaker 1: and she's always been sort of rather frumpy and just
Speaker 1: not really given any much thought to her what she
Speaker 1: puts forth into the world. She just shows up at
Speaker 1: work and does her thing and goes back home. And
Speaker 1: and she gets ahold of this vintage book on elegance,
Speaker 1: and she starts going through the chapters for what each
Speaker 1: chapters four And you know, some of its seems quite silly,
Speaker 1: how to match your handbag to your outfit and things
Speaker 1: like that, and then some of the things are are deeper.
Speaker 1: And I tell you I haven't been affected by a
Speaker 1: novel like this in a really long time, because while
Speaker 1: I was reading this novel, I found myself so I
Speaker 1: related to this character so much, and I so wanted
Speaker 1: to slow down the way that she was slowing down
Speaker 1: as she was learning how to not walk into a
Speaker 1: room and apologize for herself immediately, how she was learning
Speaker 1: to slow down instead. And I found myself doing it too,
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm a I'm like a ping pong ball
Speaker 1: around my house. If I leave something upstairs, I don't
Speaker 1: walk upstairs to get it. I run upstairs and get it,
Speaker 1: and then I run back downstairs to just sit back
Speaker 1: down on the couch where I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: just walk and sorry, I just had to say it.
Speaker 1: Thanks Um. But I've really found that it helped. I've
Speaker 1: been wanting to go back and reread it because I've
Speaker 1: gotten out of the habit that I was in during
Speaker 1: the month. It took me a while to read because
Speaker 1: I was doing other things. But during the month that
Speaker 1: I was reading this book, I really slowed down and
Speaker 1: I really was taking in my the appreciation for myself,
Speaker 1: for my environment, will Um. And it wasn't a vanity
Speaker 1: thing like I want to be elegant. It was I
Speaker 1: deserve to carry myself in the world in a way
Speaker 1: that that reflects my value. And it's really beautiful anyway,
Speaker 1: I recommend it to you girls. But this just makes
Speaker 1: me think of that because we do bounce. We bounce
Speaker 1: all over the place, bing bing bing bing bing bing
Speaker 1: bing from point point A to point z um, and
Speaker 1: sometimes we just need to slow down, and that can
Speaker 1: be hard to do, and we're constantly worried if people
Speaker 1: like us or not. I really like you, guys, I
Speaker 1: like you too. I like you too. Can I say
Speaker 1: one thing about Haley. Um, this is the first time
Speaker 1: this episode. I don't know why. I think it was
Speaker 1: something Peyton said. I can't remember. It was one of
Speaker 1: you two. One of you two said something about like
Speaker 1: the choice that she the choice that I made. And
Speaker 1: I think for the first time, I'm realizing that Haley
Speaker 1: has always been always Peyton. Peyton was mad at Haley,
Speaker 1: and why at Haley. She's mad at yes, yes, but
Speaker 1: what she said wasn't totally untrue. And what I realized
Speaker 1: is that Haley actually has been a part of a
Speaker 1: unit her entire life, a family unit, all those kids,
Speaker 1: and then got married, immediately left her parents house and
Speaker 1: got married, so no wonder. She just was like, ah,
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta be on my own. I have
Speaker 1: to figure out how to be on Yeah, it kind
Speaker 1: of It was the first time I realized that with her,
Speaker 1: that everyone needs that space that time. UM, I agree
Speaker 1: with you, and I think that the way Haley came back,
Speaker 1: not bouncing all over the place, you were very still,
Speaker 1: and you were very like, quiet but firm. It was
Speaker 1: a strong move because another actress could have been like, please, Nathan,
Speaker 1: take me back Nathan, it's too much. I can't bear it.
Speaker 1: Um and you you were slow and methodical about it,
Speaker 1: and you had to repeat yourself over and over again.
Speaker 1: And it never felt stagnant or stale. It was just
Speaker 1: firm and loving. And I think that's that's what anybody
Speaker 1: who like putting myself in Nathan shoes if the trust
Speaker 1: is gone, firm and slow and steady is exactly what
Speaker 1: you're looking for. It's like, calm it down, let's remove
Speaker 1: the melodrama, make me believe you. And it shows that
Speaker 1: she learned something and is sure. And you have this
Speaker 1: idea that she was always any unit and never got
Speaker 1: to do something for herself. She went out, she went
Speaker 1: and had her hero's journey. She went out on her own. Sure,
Speaker 1: And that's very nice. And it's weird as you're saying
Speaker 1: all this Hillary, where you're like the slow in the steady,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's what Brooke is trying to get
Speaker 1: Lucas to teach her he is yes. She wants him
Speaker 1: to prove that he is sure being steady storyline. I
Speaker 1: didn't see it until just now, but she's like, you
Speaker 1: want to show your short prove it slow and steady
Speaker 1: I'm gonna test you, I'm gonna push you. Let me
Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, I wonder if Brooke and Nathan are
Speaker 1: about to kind of be in the same place, Like,
Speaker 1: is Nathan going to test Haley? Mm hmmm. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't remember, but I'm I'm deeply
Speaker 1: that's what this episode is all about testing love, Like
Speaker 1: because Peyton and Peyton Peyton dad guys. I had no
Speaker 1: recollection of how firm Kevin Kilner was with me in
Speaker 1: those scenes where he's like, you can be mad, but
Speaker 1: don't you dare bring your mother into this, and he
Speaker 1: doesn't hug her and he never tries to like smother
Speaker 1: her with affection or anything like that, and he said
Speaker 1: a boundary. Well, in min mind because Kelvin Kilner was
Speaker 1: someone who I really really liked a lot, and we
Speaker 1: ended up working together later on White Collar Um. Kevin
Speaker 1: Kilner is the best and has such good dad energy,
Speaker 1: and I guess in my mind I thought we were
Speaker 1: all like warm and fuzzy, and Larry is not warm
Speaker 1: and fuzzy with Peyton here and she's testing his love
Speaker 1: and instead of doing the whole like I'm going to
Speaker 1: tell you, I love you over and over again. He's like,
Speaker 1: knock it off, you're being a rat. Stop it like
Speaker 1: good parenting. It was hard parenting, but he's he's I
Speaker 1: I loved Thomas who played my dad before, but Kevin
Speaker 1: felt like dad, Like I wish he would have come
Speaker 1: back for weddings and things because he was so good.
Speaker 1: I know. And you pointed out something so interesting when
Speaker 1: when he came on screen, where we were like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. Even Kilner looks so much like Brian Greenberg.
Speaker 1: They always say like, you know, you fall in love
Speaker 1: with the version of your dad, and it's like, holy
Speaker 1: Jake Jagowski and and Larry Sawyer are twinsies. Yes, Peyton's
Speaker 1: got dad issues, mom issues, best friend issues she has.
Speaker 1: She's just a regular high school girl man. Peyton on
Speaker 1: her walls. I love that, you know what, This is
Speaker 1: the first episode. I know Peyton has been very artistic
Speaker 1: obviously the last few seasons, but this is the first
Speaker 1: episode I really remember seeing the art, the artistry coming
Speaker 1: out literally onto her walls, just pouring out of her
Speaker 1: everywhere she goes. I love that, the breaking the mold,
Speaker 1: breaking the boundaries, just like, yes, paint on my walls
Speaker 1: and the throat whatever. Yeah, that that mural with those
Speaker 1: faces and the one like hypnotist wheel and the six
Speaker 1: billion that is a sense memory for me, like the
Speaker 1: hours we used to spend in that room, like and
Speaker 1: we would find a random face and like make up
Speaker 1: stories about that face in the crowd from yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I remember, and we would like we would
Speaker 1: like assign crew members we worked with to some of
Speaker 1: those faces to be like that's you, Brian, or that's you,
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, we just steered at it for
Speaker 1: so so long. And I don't know where that pictures from.
Speaker 1: Like I don't either. I love that backstory. At some
Speaker 1: point we have to have some art department members on
Speaker 1: the show because they can walk us through like the
Speaker 1: lamps of it all that weird head on the desk.
Speaker 1: We've got to do that. I want to know where
Speaker 1: all that stuff came from. That was a really big deal,
Speaker 1: wasn't it. That moment in the city when you painted
Speaker 1: the number on the wall and that of the most
Speaker 1: famous quotes of the show. Yes, I mean that stands
Speaker 1: alone in the Zite Gay. We've had a lot of
Speaker 1: people get engaged using that quote, like and people like
Speaker 1: use it in their wedding videos and stuff, because that's
Speaker 1: all you need is one quote is like, I swear
Speaker 1: that's Lady Gaga's that's where she got it, That's where
Speaker 1: she got it. It has to be I like the
Speaker 1: ownership repeat of her. She used that same quote over
Speaker 1: and over and over in all these different interviews. You
Speaker 1: have to google Lady Gaga. All you need is honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm down for God to be one real fan. Let's
Speaker 1: do wish. That sounds fun. Does she want to come
Speaker 1: from Red Bedroom Records? She should. I used to get
Speaker 1: to hang out with her in Chicago. She's a babe,
Speaker 1: and that's right. She's great. I love that's awesome. I
Speaker 1: remember texting Jenny being like, it's happened. My girlfriend Jenny,
Speaker 1: who's one of my best friends from Walmington's um. You know,
Speaker 1: we we used to like take a party bus down
Speaker 1: to Rally to go to Gaga shows, UM when she
Speaker 1: was touring, So like, oh my god, I was like,
Speaker 1: it's happening. I've met her. It's so great. We've we've
Speaker 1: achieved to the next level of Super Mario Brothers or whatever,
Speaker 1: the you know, Like I was like, Gus insane. I
Speaker 1: mean in the Matrix. Yeah, weird in life, those those
Speaker 1: level of moments where I'm just like, did I hit
Speaker 1: the right mushroom? And now I'm here? What? Like what happened? Guys? Literally,
Speaker 1: my son just got a game Boy from the nineties
Speaker 1: for he we went to like a vintage Tetris. He
Speaker 1: got Tetris, but he got Super Mario Brothers too, and
Speaker 1: so he's like, it's like it's like we're back because
Speaker 1: I hear that sound, just like it's like he's hitting
Speaker 1: all the mushrooms. Um, go for it. Guess you get
Speaker 1: those mushrooms you get? Guys, we have listener questions we do?
Speaker 1: Do you want to should we read some of the Yeah,
Speaker 1: well she just Beth wants to know who your favorite
Speaker 1: musical guest over your time on the show was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish we'd had Gaga on this show. Right, it's
Speaker 1: like the beginning of her like trajectory. Yeah, damn, I
Speaker 1: would love. Did we ever end up getting like pe
Speaker 1: I know you loved Peaches early on? Did she ever come?
Speaker 1: My God? I love Peaches? I know, guys, we love that.
Speaker 1: We will play in the trailer and make people and
Speaker 1: over again. I love it so much. Oh God, that
Speaker 1: was I forgot about that. Joy, I'm so glad you're man. Okay,
Speaker 1: so she wasn't on this show, but anyway, I remember that. No,
Speaker 1: I loved Grace Potter, man, I still love Grace Potter.
Speaker 1: Of her Yeah, she's so talented. Yeah, one of for me,
Speaker 1: also one of the best. Like there were so many
Speaker 1: moments that were cool, but god, she was just she's
Speaker 1: like a she's like a mirrage, Like she feels like
Speaker 1: she came from another world. She's awesomember to Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that felt so cool too, because that that when they
Speaker 1: came on the show, we got to do that big
Speaker 1: USO show and it felt so special to be able
Speaker 1: to kind of use the platform of our television show
Speaker 1: to go and throw a massive event like for the
Speaker 1: troops and their families. That that was special. That's when
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us were like, oh, we
Speaker 1: could do stuff with this. Yeah, we could actually do
Speaker 1: good in the world or like at least, you know,
Speaker 1: interact with people on a more authentic basis. Like it's
Speaker 1: one thing to go and like sign autographs and shake hands,
Speaker 1: but it's another thing to put on a show and
Speaker 1: go spend time with the families and get to know people,
Speaker 1: and that was a that was a really special experience. Um,
Speaker 1: Jack's mannequin was another really great get you know. That
Speaker 1: was God, that was a fun one. Yeah, we were lucky.
Speaker 1: We're anybody anybody right now that you guys would want
Speaker 1: on like who who right now? Would be? I know
Speaker 1: who you want? But I wasn't even going to say
Speaker 1: that because I, yeah, everyone already knows that I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to make Who do I want? That little chick
Speaker 1: is so cute? You know who? I would love if
Speaker 1: we were making the show right now, I would make
Speaker 1: my friend Jack Garrett come and play because he's just God,
Speaker 1: He's just the best. And like, I love nothing more
Speaker 1: than taking people who haven't seen him perform live to
Speaker 1: a Jack Garrett show because I'm like, your brain is
Speaker 1: going to explode and I can't wait to have it explodes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's my favorite. What about Leo Leon Bridges? That would
Speaker 1: be some that feels real brand that'd be special. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, what's our other question? Well, Katie says, I
Speaker 1: want to know how much of how a line is
Speaker 1: said is down to the actor and how much is
Speaker 1: down to the director. Depends on the director truly, I
Speaker 1: will say. And we talked about this while we were
Speaker 1: watching the episode and as we're all um in our
Speaker 1: in our late night Spice Brooks one liners are getting
Speaker 1: so good, so good. Oh you've got the best dialogue
Speaker 1: right now in the airport when Haley comes to the apartment,
Speaker 1: and I remember being so thrilled, like the sense memory
Speaker 1: I had watching that scene when you walked enjoy and
Speaker 1: I went, I got room for you, but not a
Speaker 1: lot of pity. And I remember when we were shooting
Speaker 1: it and whatever that is, like I caught the rhythm
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's it, that's the and I
Speaker 1: forgot the feeling because it was twenty years ago and
Speaker 1: we watched the scene and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: and you guys just been laughing because at the airport
Speaker 1: at the beginning it was great, too funny, and these
Speaker 1: aren't for me, okay, great, like there's my cap I
Speaker 1: just god, it was like what do you say? Quick? Quick?
Speaker 1: Tell me you love me? Loved it? Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So I will say I think like yeah, sometimes a
Speaker 1: director will come and say, you know, put more of
Speaker 1: this under it or whatever. They don't tell you how
Speaker 1: to say something. It's like very there's a big faulx
Speaker 1: paw in our industry with what's called a line reading.
Speaker 1: Someone comes and like reads your line for you. They're
Speaker 1: they're emotionally fired. Um. But I actually don't mind a
Speaker 1: line reading really, um, just the director and I trust
Speaker 1: the director. Yes, if it's not working, that's the thing,
Speaker 1: you have to let me try it. If I if
Speaker 1: I'm trying it and I'm not understanding what you're saying,
Speaker 1: just tell me what you just tell me. It's fine
Speaker 1: because because if I can hear you say it the
Speaker 1: way that you think it should be said, then I
Speaker 1: can actually understand whether or not that's going to make
Speaker 1: sense for me or not. But if I don't really
Speaker 1: get what you're saying, if you can't communicate in a way,
Speaker 1: that's like if we're just we're missing like you're saying it,
Speaker 1: and I'm not here for whatever for whatever reason, Yeah,
Speaker 1: then I don't mind. I don't mind a line reading.
Speaker 1: I remember I remember working on White Collar and you know,
Speaker 1: we had just come from North Carolina for six seven years,
Speaker 1: and I had to say some like business word and
Speaker 1: I kept saying it was like a jojo accident, and
Speaker 1: the director would just yell from behind the monitor. God,
Speaker 1: what was that word? It was? Oh, it was something
Speaker 1: so stupid about like business contracts or some legal ship.
Speaker 1: And they were just like, where did you come from
Speaker 1: in that situation? Yes, give me that line reading, say
Speaker 1: it over again, spell it out phonetically, put it on
Speaker 1: a cue card. Oh I love it. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's that's the interesting thing. You know, directors rotate
Speaker 1: on TV and we're there all the time. So um,
Speaker 1: there's just something that happens in this season where you
Speaker 1: can really see everybody kind of clicking into the next level.
Speaker 1: And something happened, particularly because I'm reliving it now, like
Speaker 1: something happened with the way that the writer's room and
Speaker 1: I like clicked into Brooks comedy in like a deeper way.
Speaker 1: And I would just read the scripts and giggle. I
Speaker 1: was so excited. I think they realized everybody else was
Speaker 1: everybody else was weeping in the I just got so excited.
Speaker 1: I'd read these lines and be like, oh, I can't wait,
Speaker 1: I have i'mun them up with this one. So well,
Speaker 1: you did it brilliantly or so good. I love book.
Speaker 1: I love brook more and more every day. Me too. God,
Speaker 1: I loved her. I get it. Well, should we spen
Speaker 1: a wheel? I want to spend the wheel. It's amazing
Speaker 1: that we can talk for long. I know. This is joy, guys,
Speaker 1: this is is killing at home? We know. Uh. This
Speaker 1: week's most likely too, is who is most likely to
Speaker 1: leave their It's not even a question and a question
Speaker 1: of who is a question of when's the last time
Speaker 1: she did it? Yes? When last time in Charleston in November.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that cute guy in charle E'll say
Speaker 1: we got a picture he was. I love it so much.
Speaker 1: She'll text us and be like, guess what I did?
Speaker 1: We know what you did. It's why we love you.
Speaker 1: We know every little detail were enough to have Joy
Speaker 1: lens saunter into your establishment. You better, mama. We might
Speaker 1: get a phone number. Never know. Okay who who the characters?
Speaker 1: I think Brooke, Oh yeah, Brooke Davis. Yeah, Brooke Davis
Speaker 1: would leave her phone number on a receipt and then
Speaker 1: walk up to the waiter and hold it. They would not,
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be But you know I like that about her.
Speaker 1: Love it well, guys are next episode is the three
Speaker 1: episode two from the Edge of the Deep Green Sea. Wow.
Speaker 1: So drum. Well this I missed you guys, guys so much.
Speaker 1: I missed you too. Next time, what's reporter like four
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, you know, like we'll let the
Speaker 1: fans figure out what we're up to our late night antics.
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