1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about them 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: our comic girl Cheering for the drama Queens girl Fashion. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: But you're tough girl, you can sit with us. Girl Drama, Queens, Drama, 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama Drawn MC, Queen's Drama Queens. Everybody. 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: I missed you guys so much. Thank you for taking 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: care of me last week and filling in. Um We're 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: back with our fury. This week is season three premiere. UM. 10 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: So much happened in this episode, including what a ton 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: of a d R which will explain what. But first 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: things first, Haley came home the night of the fire, 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: which Dan somehow survived. Honestly, Dan, so do you yes? Um? 14 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: Three months have passed, Nathan ended up going to High Flyers. 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: He still doesn't know if he can trust Haley again. 16 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: Brook moves into Nathan and Haley's old apartment, which is 17 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: my favorite set. Like, I love hanging out in that 18 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: set and I love that they never made us give 19 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: it up. We just rotated it. Uh. Peyton is still 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: emotionally struggling over what now, like what now her birth mother? 21 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: And then Brooke and Lucas start casually dating. Were they 22 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: dating though, Like I don't know the whole Yeah, the 23 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: whole like friends with benefit thing in the early two 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: thousands was weird because it was like kind of this 25 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: like girl power movement of we're not going to be 26 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: your girlfriend, We're just gonna kiss anybody because we can 27 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: be like boys. Um, I feel like we got kind 28 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: of hoodwinked on that. Yeah we did. I think we go. 29 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: I feel like a guy I made this up and 30 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: said it was our idea. You know what it is 31 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: the same guy you know have like Victoria's secret. When 32 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: they started doing like all the angel like fashion shows, 33 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: we were told like, oh, this is girl power, love 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: your body, and then we find out all these years 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: later it was like super misogynistic and just dudes. Yeah, 36 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: I feel like that's the movement. They're like, tit's up, girls, 37 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: tits up? Oh my god, just kissing. It's interesting. I 38 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: will say, as much as I'm like on the on 39 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: the idea, what I did like is that the the 40 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: director of this episode, um, Greg Praine, who was you know, 41 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: our on site producer, who knew us all really well. 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: He did like to lean into what more was going 43 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: on with the characters than was on the page, because 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: he was present for every single episode, and so I 45 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: led about these characters. I know he did, he really did. 46 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: And I liked that he offered me space as an 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: actor two say the lines, we're going to be casual 48 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: and whatever, but then to show that it was a 49 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: defense mechanism. Of course, Brooke was testing Lucas to see 50 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: if he would play by her rules and keep showing 51 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: up and sort of earn her trust. And I'm glad 52 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: we had someone familiar to do that with because otherwise 53 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: I think it would well, they would want you to 54 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: make it like sexy and it's not. It's You're totally 55 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: right when you say it's a defense mechanism. It's how 56 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: far can I push you and you'll keep your promise 57 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: to support me? And you know, my Brook needs after 58 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: what she's been through with the last few guys and 59 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: with Lucas also like she needs to be able to 60 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: push a little bit and know that he's not just 61 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: going to blow away with the wind. Yeah. Brooke also 62 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: came back like Sabrina from Paris with the bangs that 63 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: I loved so much. When the last time the banks? 64 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: Have you done this again, Sophia? Yeah, I come since then, God, 65 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was like just after my 66 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: thirtieth birthday. I can't believe you didn't cut pandemic bangs. 67 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Everybody on the planet cut pandemic bangs, and you're so 68 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: good with them. I really do enjoy them. But yeah, 69 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: I have a cowlic and so unless I blow drive 70 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: them out like, they go into directions. So I've learned 71 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: that bangs are a bit high maintenance for me. But man, 72 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: did I like these bangs. And I feel vindicated that 73 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: all the ladies are in support because I got yelled 74 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: at when I cut these bangs for our boss. It 75 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: was a real dick. Oh yeah, and all these years later, 76 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: I think they stand the test of time. So he 77 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: can off. My bangs were great. You can just grab 78 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: the off right off. Sorry everyone at home. We're spicy tonight. 79 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: It's so spicy. I have my spicy tequila tonight. Yeah, 80 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: we're doing an evening podcast. We're all happily charged. We 81 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: I wonder if fans can tell the difference when we 82 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: do early morning podcast versus like late night, Like we 83 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: should let them guests from now on, like Morning or Night. 84 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: We should take a pole every week. We should actually 85 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: do a poll. That would be so stories. Yeah, that's 86 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: a good idea. Was that Morning or Night episode is 87 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: a drunk history edition? Are we going to do a 88 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: drunk o t h history where we have to tell 89 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: the story of what happened all season long? But like, 90 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, like when you and I did lame 91 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: is in four minutes or something, We're going to do 92 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: a sloppy recap of season two? Um no, I guys, 93 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: I really really like season three. I have you know, 94 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: anytime the fans ask us what seasons our favorite? Historically, 95 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: for me, it's three because I you know, I love Shirley, 96 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: I love Kevin Kilner, who shows up in this episode. 97 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: Like I don't have crying all the time, but jeez, 98 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: I got to work with like, you know, people I loved, 99 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: and we all looked so cute this season, like you 100 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: and your little haircut. Everybody's hair was so good. Everybody's 101 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: got a great braw on and tank tops. What was 102 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: that bra because it was the same one, guys, it 103 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: had such a specific front cut, Like yeah, I know 104 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: it was enjoy. You're the one who spotted it. You 105 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: were like, we're wearing the same bra, and that's a 106 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: perfect I don't know what it is, but yeah, I 107 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: want it. It probably comes from the terrible era of 108 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret Friends with Benefit bra. That's where else was 109 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: there at a shop for There were really no alternatives, 110 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: especially not in you know, the one Victoria's Secret at 111 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: the mall. That was it. That was it, I know. 112 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: But everybody did look really good. We looked cute. We 113 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 1: were we were covering the the basis of Oh my god, 114 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: like you had the Sophia, you had like the Sandra 115 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 1: Bullock thing going on, Oh my god, had Meg Ryan. 116 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: And I'm an climb into Julia Roberts territory because you 117 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: never know when my hair is gonna go curly. And 118 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: I think I think we have this sort of like 119 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: rom com queen trifecta happening in the in the in 120 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: the season three, I'm excited about seeing the rest of 121 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm really excited, you know what to this is when 122 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: the like hocus pocus, um, not hocus pocus. What am 123 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: I thinking? I'm practicle magic Hill. This is what the 124 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: practicable magic things started for us when people were like, 125 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: you guys should do Bullock and Kidman. I think, Joy, 126 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: you just nailed it. I think it's the haircuts this season. 127 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: I who was our costumer this year? I can't even remember, 128 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: but we had somebody different come in. Was it a 129 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: guy he was seasoned four? Oh? There. I just feel 130 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: like there were some changings of the guard between two 131 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: and three, and you can see all of us feel 132 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: like more comfortable. Um yeah, like I can get comfortable 133 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: in those orange pants for myself now in your pants on. 134 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: But listen, I'm telling you this episode was all tank 135 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: tops all the time, Like except for Nathan, who's not 136 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: wearing a shirt at all the whole episode. That's a 137 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: good d D of choice for him. Though we should 138 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: tell James be like, wa hey, we made an executive 139 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: decision for you. Don't wear shirts? A good choice. As 140 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: your friends, we'd like to tell you we have an opinion. 141 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: I just love Okay, So do you guys remember when 142 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: we were filming this whole like who killed Dan? Thing? 143 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: How obsessed our bosses were about creating the same kind 144 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: of energy around our show that that show Doubtlas had 145 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: about like who shot Ja? Oh my gosh, Hillary, I 146 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: forgot about that. They were obsessed. We would never stop 147 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: talking about it. And by the way, you know it worked. 148 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: It's sort of yeah. I mean it literally would have 149 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: been anyone except you or me, because in the end 150 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: montage of the show, they show every single character on 151 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: our show angry at Dan, except for Brooke and Peyton. 152 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: We're crying about other show. You guys are all trying 153 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: to kill Dan. It did feel like an episode of Clue. 154 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, it was Hayley in the 155 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: library with a candlestick. That's what the forties episode should 156 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: have been. Oh my god, it should have been Clue. 157 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: It's not too late. What if we did What if 158 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: we did One Tree Hill Clue the movie? Yes, but 159 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: Lose your Own Adventure. The end of the series, Dan 160 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: is dead. So who would be like the next victim 161 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: on the show? If we're gonna do One Tree Hill Clue? 162 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: Who dies next? Okay, who's the next victim after Dan? Rachel? 163 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: But she's not around yet? Who else? Who's who's the 164 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: bad guy? There's no other villain. He's the only villain. 165 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess Deb maybe would go next. Oh, 166 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: it would be such a shame it would be, but 167 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, like she's the only one that seems 168 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: to have that, like she could go bad if she 169 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: Why does it have to be a main character? What 170 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: if somebody dies in Tree Hill and then the rest 171 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: of us have to investigate and prove our innocence. I 172 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: didn't do it, guys, I didn't. I've been on a 173 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: webcam this whole time, being watched by Watch Me Watch You, 174 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: which we didn't revisit in this episode, and I kind 175 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: of wish they had just to recap and remind us 176 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: that there was something creepy going on, because that was 177 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: a weird mislead in the end of last season. It 178 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: was very strange, and also they made such a big 179 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: deal out of it, even in the beginning of the 180 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: episode where Peyton and Lucas are having this moment where 181 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: they're becoming like real friends again, and she's like, I've 182 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: been getting these creepy emails, and I'm like, first of all, 183 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: they're on a I am and second of all, we're 184 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: never going to talk about them again, like you confide 185 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: in him about it, and then they disappear, which feels strange. 186 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: It feels not like a sixteen year old girl, because 187 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: what I can tell you, having been a sixteen year 188 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: old girl, is that when we're weirded out about something, 189 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: we talk about it all the fucking time. Like we 190 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: don't just like drop it and then walk away. No, 191 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: it's so high school. Yeah, you fixate on it. What 192 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: I will say though, is that Peyton lives in this 193 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: world have watched me watch you for a while, like 194 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: for a couple of seasons, and um, I I am 195 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: so paranoid anytime I stay in a hotel room or 196 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: like an airbnb or something that there are cameras everywhere. 197 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Like the speed was always checking the events, the air conditions. 198 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: I check every event. Do you know there's an app 199 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: on your phone that can scan for hidden cameras? Because 200 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: I do, because Peyton Sawyer traumatized me. So now I'm 201 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: just out there scanning every room I go into watch this. 202 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm really I'm into it. I think it's smart. I 203 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: think everybody should do it. That should be the name 204 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: of the app watch Watch. I see you, you pervert, 205 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: I see you you stop me from watching you. You 206 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: know what else was creepy in this episode is that 207 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: face in Peyton's bedroom that they kept shining a light on. Yeah, 208 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: why did that face get a feature light? It's not right. 209 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: It was a sculpture. What was it. We're in season 210 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: three and Joy is like, what is that thing on 211 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: your desk? I'm just like, baby, that's been there since 212 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: the pilot. It was like it was like a dummy head. 213 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: It was literally like a mannequin head, but the hair 214 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: part had been removed and so there was like pencils 215 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: in it, like it was like a pencil holder on 216 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: the desk, and of course that's the thing they spotlight 217 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: and it's so but like Lucas is having this very 218 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: sincere He's really trying to talk to you, and all 219 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: I can see behind him is this strange like a 220 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: boogieman sculpture. Also, I must say there you can tell 221 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: when something gets highlighted and when it doesn't. And in 222 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: this episode, that head and that like d whatever that 223 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: poster was. Yeah, they were like characters in the show. 224 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: Why were they? So here's what I think. Here's what 225 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: I think. If you notice everyone's wearing a white tank 226 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: top in this episode, people's hair rarely changes and we 227 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: are constantly in front of the same backgrounds. I think 228 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: we blocked shot the that of this episode because they 229 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: interesting so much time on the fire like, like, there 230 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: were certain things we had to spend a ton of 231 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: time on, and so the other stuff, like the scene work, 232 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: I think we blocked shot it. I don't know if 233 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: we've explained block shooting to people at home, but somebody 234 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: explain it. Tell him what, tell him what it is, 235 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: Tell him what it is, all right now, guys, you're 236 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: the directors. I'm just the bitchy actress. Block shooting is 237 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: when you take everything that's in one location in the 238 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: whole episode and you film it all at one time, 239 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: or if there's direct yeah, and in the in the 240 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: directions so that you're facing I've actually feel like we've 241 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: explained this on the show before, but I can't remember. 242 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: So you just face the same direction, and everybody who's 243 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: in that scene, uh or in scenes in that episode 244 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: in that location will file in and do their scene 245 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: in that direction. So everybody's there all day long just 246 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: waiting for their direction to be up. So you face 247 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: the window, then you turn around and face the other side, 248 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: and then you Sometimes it's four ways and then a 249 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: wide shot, so it can be quite complicated and sometimes 250 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: in order to avoid the cameras having to move all 251 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: day long, all the way around the room, around the room, 252 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: around the room, around the room. They just stay in 253 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: one place for four hours and then move again and 254 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: stay in that place for another four or five hours, 255 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: and then it's not the best way to do. I 256 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: mean it's it's not. It's a super big time saver, 257 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: you know. But you can also tell to like you're 258 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: not moving, um, the other things to lose their minds 259 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: a little bit. All my scenes, Peyton doesn't look at anybody. 260 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: It's like Chat over my shoulder or Kevin Kilner over 261 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: my shoulder, because when you away, it's two actors looking 262 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: in the same direction. So you only need to set 263 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: up the camera once. Yeah, So we were saving tons 264 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: of times so that that fire would be the most 265 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: epic fire that ever fired. I remember driving out there 266 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: that night hill we were so palm the build up 267 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: of this fire. It was like, guys, you're never going 268 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: to see anything like it ever again in the history 269 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: of your careers. There's going to be an explosion. We 270 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: were like, okay. I also just remember being amped to 271 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: stand in that parking lot because we were like, there's 272 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: some than to know. Oh, my god, there was just 273 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: something to do the Deluxe or go to the movie theater, 274 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: and we were thrilled blowing stuff up. We were in 275 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: the parking lot of the Independent small What is that road? 276 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: Is that on Eastwood? Um? I can't remember anymore, but 277 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: you know it's road, the big one. It's the road 278 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: with the freaking Victoria's Secret mall, Hot Topic, Victoria's Secret, 279 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: what other stores packs on? There was? We had everything. 280 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: We were living the dream blowing stuff up in the 281 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: parking lot. I remember us sitting in our cars being like, Oh, 282 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the coolest thing ever, and everyone 283 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: made it sound like it was gonna be so dangerous, 284 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: and looking back at it now, I'm like, it's a fire. 285 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: Like the building on fire. It's a building on fire. 286 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: Were we super controlled so it felt it still felt safe? 287 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: I guess were we worried about Dan? Like, did anyone 288 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: really think Dan was gonna die? Besides death? I mean, 289 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: it's awfully hard to be worried about Dan since we 290 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: know what happens. It's kind of like you know what 291 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: happens with the Titanic, but like no one is surprised 292 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: at the movie, but your heart broken guys, that feels right. 293 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: He really is spurs not going anywhere. Yeah, I spurgs 294 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: not moving for you. Um. But I will say I 295 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: do think at the time when the show was airing, 296 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: people really did wonder if he was going to die. Yeah, yeah, 297 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: I think so too. It was a big deal. It 298 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: was it big. Who done it? Like what's going to happen? 299 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: I think they did splashes on Entertainment Weekly on it. 300 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: I think it was kind of all over all the 301 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: little pop culture spots like what's going to happen to Dan? 302 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: And you can tell even in the way that it 303 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: was written, you know, where the firefighter says something to Barbara, 304 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, to deb and she says, my husband was inside, 305 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: and he goes, they didn't tell you hold on, captain, 306 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: and you think, well, somebody's coming to do a death notification. 307 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: And then he comes around the side of that ambulance, 308 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: sucking on an oxygen mask, and he realizes nobody's happy 309 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: to see him. What did you say it was like, Hillary, Well, 310 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: he looks like a Hannibal lecteror with like the mask, 311 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: but he also looks like another Wilmington icon, Dennis Hopper 312 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: in blue velvet sucking on that oxygen mask just Creepsville. Yeah, 313 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: it was really fascinated by the scene with Dan in 314 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: the confessional because it's the first time we've ever seen 315 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: him behaving genuinely sincere well, I guess, since I guess 316 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: he's sincerely awful, but in being sincere about his u 317 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: his place in the existential climate, the existential world, where 318 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 1: does he belong? The first time he's really you know, 319 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: being genuinely being vulnerable without anyone present who he might 320 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: get something from. Unless he's like literally trying, I guess 321 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: because he does ask can I can I get forgiveness 322 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: for something I haven't done already? So is he trying to? 323 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: Is he trying to gaslight God? Is this stands? Fine? 324 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: Doesn't because he doesn't really want forgiveness, I don't think, 325 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: like right, But why is he bothering to go to 326 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: the confessional? That's a really interesting choice to make for 327 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: a person to go to a confessional seeking genuine forgiveness, 328 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: feeling some kind of genuine repentance, and yet also wanting 329 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: to get away with something like seeing if God's going 330 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: to let you get away with something. Yeah, I think 331 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: that's so interesting. I mean, there's a part of me 332 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: that thinks Dan gets his kicks seeing what he can 333 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: get away with, and so going in and basically admitting 334 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: that you're going to do something bad and now you've 335 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: got this pastor you know, privilege of are you going 336 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: to tell on me? What are you going to do 337 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: about it? You know, like if he can pull one 338 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: over on an institution that is supposed to be um, 339 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: I don't know that, like utmost respect, it shows you 340 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: just how very low he is. Uh. But like in 341 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: all seriousness, does someone just sit there all day and 342 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: like you can walk in at any time? I don't 343 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: know what the rules are. Do they don't have hours? 344 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: How does that work? Yeah? You make it my mom 345 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: group Catholic? I should ask her mom, texture I think 346 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: they do have ours. Is it only Catholic churches that 347 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: have confessional or is it yes, it's only Catholic. Yeah, 348 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: and it's private. It was a beautifully shot scene. I 349 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: thought that was really pretty. I liked how it was 350 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: edited because we're coming back after, you know, a couple 351 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: of months, and it reminds the audience of every single 352 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: person that Dan has hurt and I'd forgotten that he 353 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: piste off Whitey and you know, like you forget likely 354 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: assaulted Karen. Karen threw a chair through a window. She 355 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: was so mad. But Paul is so good at going 356 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: back and forth between the sincere and the evil. I 357 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: mean when when Deb comes up to him and he's 358 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: got amnesia so you know, so called amnesia, and he 359 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: can't remember, and he's being so genuine with her, and 360 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: I really thought for a moment like, oh my gosh, 361 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: maybe this amnesia really really changed him. How does he 362 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: do it every time he gets us? Yeah, he really 363 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: does well. Because the audience, you know, they're like, surely 364 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: at some point is this it? No? No, this isn't 365 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: this no? No, how long can it go on before? 366 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: The audience is like, it's never happening. But it's really 367 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: playing on our emotions. Think about real life, think about 368 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: the people in your life that you know who are 369 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: like that, and you still keep thinking, maybe this is 370 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: the Maybe this is the moment, Maybe this is change 371 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: we do it. This is why there's eight million memes 372 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: out there about like set your boundaries walk away, like exactly. 373 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: I see these Instagram posts. I like them. Um Dan's crazy. 374 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: But Deb also is, you know, like making her gin comments. 375 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: She did she finish up pill rehab and now she's drinking. 376 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: Is that what's happening? She did, but she you're not 377 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: supposed to do that. I'm not supposed to like drink 378 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: after you go get go to rehab for pills. Again, 379 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what there is sober. I don't either. 380 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: I think sober is sober. I think you're supposed to 381 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: not do that. So, yeah, she's making these comments and 382 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: she's him, and she turned Karen's into a cyber. Yeah. Yeah, 383 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: I wonder if maybe she's making because she goes to 384 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: get coffee but she's making jokes about Jin. Is she 385 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: making fun of herself? But it's just not very good writing. 386 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think I understand it. I just 387 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: we still don't know who actually lit the fire, and 388 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: I think it was her. I think even though they're 389 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: alluding to that, it was Lucas. I think you're right. 390 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: Somebody who which one of you said Lucas, Hillary said 391 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: Lucas saves Dan stand fire? I think that was it. 392 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: And the giveaway that Lucas saves Dan is that he 393 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: has the burnt card. So Lucas was in that dealership 394 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: when it was already on fire, But why would he 395 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: Why would you save someone's life and take the card 396 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: that what ties you to the crime scene, Because I 397 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: think he's trying to protect whoever did it, because to Lucas, 398 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: he doesn't know if it was Keith, he doesn't know 399 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: if it was na. He doesn't know like if it 400 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: was his mother or Andy. You know, Lucas is trying 401 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: to protect whoever actually did it because he knows that 402 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 1: those repercussions are well. And it's smart too, because the 403 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: way they set up the deb and Nathan of it all. 404 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: Nathan comes in and she says, I've been here alone 405 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: all night, which sounds ridiculous and like she's trying to 406 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: establish an alibi. But where was Nathan because it could 407 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: have been so So they start playing tricks on you 408 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: where you're like, well, it could have been her or 409 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: if she was home, it could have been him. And 410 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: she says, we're getting out, and he says, I know 411 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: we are, is it? Because he's making sure they are, 412 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: Like they did a good job establishing the question did 413 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: your husband just walk by with his shirt on? Done? 414 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: He just brought me he has a shirt on under 415 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: that is unbuttoned. Sofia's fiance Grant is, so I have 416 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: to say, uh that he's like, they'll become the wine connoisseur. 417 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: I think over the pandemic, right, he became a wine conisseur. 418 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: He was really into wine even before. But yeah, he's 419 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: now made it like his actual organic For me, yes, 420 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: but it's all like organic, bio dio dynamics, biodynamic. Can 421 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: I just tell you. I went over to Soaf's house 422 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: and we sat and had dinner, and I drank way 423 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,239 Speaker 1: more wine than I usually do. I'd usually stop at 424 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: a glass and a half because I have to drive home, 425 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: or I just I also just don't like the way 426 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: I feel in the morning and after drinking wine the headache, 427 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: I feel awful, so it's not worth it to me anymore. 428 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: So a glass and a half is usually my limit. 429 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 1: I definitely went over that, and I tell you, I 430 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: woke up the next morning and felt fine, yeah, fine, 431 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: there's no nothing and nothing. What is this magic? And 432 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: it's because they're all organic wines, because it's not wine 433 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: that makes you feel bad, it's the creepy additives that 434 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: they're allowed to put in it. Grant explained it to 435 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: me this way, which I thought was such A good 436 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: way to understand it is that they've basically made wine 437 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: into Coca cola like they wanted to taste. They want 438 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: every attle to taste the same every time, and wine 439 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: is alive. That's not how it works, you know. And 440 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: so when you drink um completely organic, natural wine, biodynamic 441 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: wine that doesn't have one legally allowed additives in it, 442 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: like most of the wine that comes off a shelf. Yeah, 443 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: you're like, he'll run wine tastings for people over here, 444 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: and you're like, we'll start with a white and then 445 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: go to an orange, and then we'll do a light red, 446 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: and then we'll do a red and everyone's like, what's happening? 447 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: And everybody the next day is like, I don't have 448 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: a headache. I feel great, okay, because you didn't get poisoned. 449 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: You just had a nice day. We gotta sign up 450 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: for Good Good what is it? Good wine, Drink good wine, 451 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: Drink good Wine Club Oka shamelessly plugging your thanks, very 452 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: fun business. And we need the wine suitcase right on 453 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: the front. Yeah, we need a wine suitcase and we'll 454 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: just cart it around with us when we take this 455 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: show on the road. Folks. That's right. Well, you know 456 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: who really needed a glass of wine in this episode? 457 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: Was Hayley work you had to do in this episode? 458 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: Did that beautiful scene between you guys when you come 459 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: in and you ask him if he's awake? Hey, you guys? God, 460 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: that scene was so good. The kissing. I cried. It hurted. 461 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it made me tear, it hurt. I 462 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: remember filming that, and uh, it's It's so one of 463 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: those things where the muscle memory, the visceral muscle memory 464 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: of filming it came rushing back to me and um, 465 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: because we spent a long time in that room that day. Yeah, 466 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: maybe a lot of scenes, but we spent a lot 467 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: of time in that room. And James and I had 468 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: not done any scenes like that before. We had the 469 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: one in the at the concert backstage, which was really 470 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: just me giving a speech and then he leaves. So 471 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: the back and forth, the combative like being a married 472 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: couple struggling. James and I had not done anything like that. Also, 473 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: James was very aloof and he still is. He's a 474 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: very aloof guy. It's one of the great things he 475 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: was going for him to, you know. Um, But but 476 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: he's a good totally and so I never I'm you know, 477 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: very I'm a musical theater kid. I'm like, no, no, no, like, 478 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, what do I have to do all my 479 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: feelings on a platter right here? I'm giving to you. 480 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: And James was always so poker faced, and so I 481 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: never knew whether he liked me or not. And I 482 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: really wanted him to like me, just like as a friend, 483 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: like be. I just wanted to know that he liked 484 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: me as a person approval, and then I wasn't hopelessly 485 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: annoying to him. And so that was always that was 486 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: always going on in the back of my mind. So 487 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: I remember when we filmed these scenes, it was actually 488 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: particularly painful for me to have rejecting me joy Yeah, 489 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: because it tapped because it tapped into a very real fear. 490 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: You were like, he doesn't like me, and in this 491 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: scene having like he doesn't like me. Oh no. It's 492 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: so I totally get it because we do work in 493 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: this world where like, like I would say, most of 494 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: the people that we work with are incredibly like, hey, 495 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: let's be best friends. Let's it's like puppies, right, It's 496 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: like it's just like, you know, getting a pile and 497 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: kuddle and tell each other all our secrets and because 498 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: James is not like that, Like James is very sure 499 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: of who he is and he doesn't need to project, 500 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: and he's like, he's just different. There's a calmness to 501 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: him where he didn't need the same validation that we did. 502 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, I felt the same thing, joy because I 503 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: was always like, well, why don't you want to share 504 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: like secrets, Like why don't want Yeah, totally tell me 505 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: you're feelings into an elevator in Paris. I got an 506 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: elevator with him and my pair who had come out 507 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: to watch Maria, and we all got an elevator together. 508 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: He gets off the elevator and my old pair who's German, 509 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: and you know, they're very stoic. He gets off the 510 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: elevator and she's like, he's calm. Yes, we're frantic people, 511 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: we are, We're frantic. But I think I think that 512 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: was also why he he had such a good grounding 513 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: energy for all of us, because you're right that that 514 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: desired a puppy pile that you talk about. It's like 515 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: it's summer camp, it's camp friends. It's like we're in 516 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: this cabin and we're going to be friends forever. If 517 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: you're going to know everything about me. And James was 518 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: always he would look at us. You know what he 519 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: reminds me of. It's like the rancher who watches all 520 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: the baby horses run around like Jim's waste. James was 521 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: in Yellowstone. We were on one dree Home. By the way, 522 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: he should absolutely be on Yellowstone, he should be on 523 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: that show. But he was just very much like, all right, psychos, 524 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: run arounduntil you're tired and then I'll feed you from 525 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: We were like, okay, like that's who he is, and 526 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: he still is. It's like a that's yeah, we gotta 527 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: you know what the moral of the stories we needed 528 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: by James accoutoyant. Yeah, I'm down for that. We'll just 529 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: send it to him with no note. He know he 530 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: made smart choices too, because he was like, I have 531 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: my real friends. They're my friends from home and my 532 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: little brother. And that was something that it took me 533 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: a very long time to learn. In our business is 534 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: like a boundary is important, and keeping your home and 535 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: your work life separate is is a very important tool. 536 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: And jamesonhow figured that out as a child, So kudos 537 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: to him, man, I appreciate it. I wish i'd know, no, 538 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: really really nailed it. But God, isn't that funny. I've 539 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: had that joy, that thing you talk about like Hillary, 540 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: I even remember having it with you. So I was 541 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: totally standoffish and weird on our show. Well, but you 542 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: went in phases because and then it was for me, 543 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: like even inside of our friendship, like we'd be doing 544 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: these scenes where you know, we get to the point 545 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: where brooking Peyton or fighting, and I'm like, it feels 546 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: personal though, like it's on the script, but I feel 547 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: uncomfortable in the scene, and it's really it's breaking my 548 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: real heart, not my brooke heart. Help me, do you 549 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: guys that I did always? Of course, of course, ye dude, 550 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: even like there's there's I have to remind myself to 551 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: not take it personally. It's okay because it feels really 552 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: our job is to make the feelings on the page reel. 553 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: And I think when you finally learned that that can 554 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: emotionally make you feel crazy, you learn coping skills. But 555 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: like God, there were days when we were shooting up 556 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: in Toronto were like Jason and I would be battling 557 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: in these scenes and then we we'd finished the scene 558 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, Jason Isaacs, it's me. Sophia friended me. 559 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: I need you to hug me, you know, and and 560 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: then you know, he'd be in a sweet little British 561 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: accent like, oh, darling, and I was like, I just 562 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: need to remember in my body that it's not real. Oh. 563 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: I love that. I love asking for that. I remember 564 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: in my body. We didn't know to do that when 565 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: we were doing our show. Like you would have never 566 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: said to James, this has made me very uncomfortable. Could 567 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: you hug me because you're my friend like you would 568 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: have never. Would you please let me know that you 569 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: don't hate me, Hold me, hold me, James. He would 570 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: be like a fresh sure, I don't hate you. I 571 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: don't hate you. And he would have rolled his eyes 572 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: when he said it, and he'd be like, but you 573 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: look like you do. It's like why, I mean, maybe 574 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 1: that's an artist thing. I've since I was young. I 575 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: remember always being so paranoid, terrified every room I walked 576 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: into that nobody liked me for no reason. Does that 577 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: ever go away? I don't know. I guys, I still 578 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: feel that way constantly too. I go to the grocery 579 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: store and talk to a check out woman for too 580 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: long and like, you know, ask her about where she 581 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: got her nails done, and also I like your hair 582 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: and leave feeling like, oh no, oh no, I messed up, 583 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: Like she's gonna think I'm a psycho. And then I'm 584 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: going to wait for her outside in the parking lot, 585 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, like on the way out, you're like, by 586 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: the way, not not single white female, just think you're awesome. 587 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, why did I say that? Like? Can I 588 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: have your number? You knowends the it's the weird vacillating 589 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: between really being sincere and just like I like you, 590 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: I think you're cool, and then also the thing of 591 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: perpetuating this do you like me? Do you like me? 592 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: And then people who are good at detecting bullsh I've 593 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: definitely encountered some of those people when I'm in a 594 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: spin and I'm feeling like I need people to like 595 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: me and they just are not having it, not because 596 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: they don't like me, but because they're not interested in 597 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: my need for them to like me. That makes sense, 598 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: Like they can tell that everything that I'm doing is 599 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: only is not really because I'm interested in them, It's 600 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: because I am trying to get some kind of reaction 601 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: out of them to feed myself. Okay, that is some 602 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: major therapy growth, right there. Can we just like like 603 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: have a desire to like snap for that, Like that's 604 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: a big fucking deal. Pause You're like, you're like, oh, 605 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: this is triggering my need for validation. Understood that that's 606 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: some serious grown up lady growth. Yeah, do we need 607 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: to acknowledge when that happens? Like am I doing this 608 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: really for you? Or is this really just all about me? 609 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: And I need to just like allow you to have 610 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: whatever feelings you're having, whether you like me or on 611 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: and just I can share my feelings for you genuinely 612 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: and then walk away. But I don't need to perpetuate 613 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: this like song and dance to make sure that you 614 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: like me, and then I can walk away being like, Okay, 615 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: another another person likes me. Good check check that off 616 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: the list. What is the worst? What is the worst 617 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: like fake fight you've had on a job where you 618 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: have been like scared as real, like because our show 619 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: we were babies and so we didn't know how to 620 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: separate fact and fiction very well. But yeah, like I 621 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: played a mistress on a TV show that Tony Collette 622 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: was the lead in and her husband was Tate Donovan, 623 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: and so I was supposed to be having this affair 624 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: with Tate Donovan, and I was so excited to work 625 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: with Tony Colette. And she was just like, I'm gonna 626 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: need you to stay away from me, and and she 627 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: was so lovely but like very professional, but also like 628 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: we can't be girlfriends. And I just remember being like, 629 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: oh no, oh no, I've come off so hyper. I've 630 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: come all like the mistress, you know, because like my 631 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: character had to apologize to her and be like, oh 632 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: my god, I'm so sorry. You're such an awesome woman 633 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: and I didn't know, and like I'm like, oh no, 634 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm perpetuating this in real life because I'm like, I 635 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: think you're so cool and I like your hair, and 636 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: also your shoes are really pretty today, you know. Like 637 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: that was the weirdest I've ever felt professionally, because I 638 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: was like, no, no, I swear I'm a normal person. 639 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: I swear I'm just playing a horror. I'm just playing 640 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: hor Oh my god, I don't know. I'm I'm really 641 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: trying to think of um oh, I don't know. I 642 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: mean maybe I'm just thinking about it because I literally 643 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: was just talking about it. But when we had that 644 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: fight on the front lawn of Peyton's house, that would hurt. 645 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: That that to me up for a bit, me too, 646 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: Like I didn't feel okay and and I think we 647 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: both were like wounded and then didn't want to say 648 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: it but could see it on each other's faces. So 649 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: we just kind of like you were literally wounded your skull. 650 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: Like we had a moment I was like, something is wrong, um, 651 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. It felt Oh, I just 652 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: felt so awful into something like dark yeah, to like 653 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: girl wounds, to like the betrayal of the you know, 654 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: the first best friend betrayal you ever go through, or whatever, 655 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: and it just felt big and painful. And it was 656 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: two thousand five and no one was in therapy yet, 657 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: so it was really hard to do with better. No 658 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: we had no like mental health leaders on Instagram sharing 659 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: inspiring infographics in your morning feet would have been amazing. 660 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: Can you imagine if they had actually just made like 661 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: Beth Crooka maybe like or somebody kind of like her 662 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: who was just ten years older than us, so still 663 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: young and cool, but like clearly had her together. It 664 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: just made someone like that are like a guidance counselor 665 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: on why didn't we have a guidens counselor, especially because 666 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: there were so many big things we were going through 667 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 1: and people treated us like grown ups, but we were kids. 668 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: And then we were like, well, we can't admit that 669 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 1: we feel like kids, because we're supposed to be the 670 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: grow we're you know, employees, Like we're supposed to have 671 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: it all together, so we just like fumbled around for 672 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: years dumb. Do you think that in in other professions, 673 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: which we I mean, none of us can really know 674 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 1: because we don't do anything else, But I wonder if 675 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: this is you know, we think this is an extraordinary 676 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: problem just for actors, but maybe in other professions other 677 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: people feel, especially young people coming out of college or 678 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: going you know, going into new jobs or internships. I mean, 679 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: I wonder if kind of the pressure is the same everywhere. 680 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: I think the public notoriety, like that's something else. Well, 681 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna say. I think the pressure is 682 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: very similar. I think the pressure of public notoriety is hard. 683 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: And I also think the utter lack of boundaries in 684 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: film and television, Like when you go to work at 685 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: an office, you're doing spreadsheets. You're not doing like emotional 686 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: scenes where you're fighting your best friend whose parent has died. Like, 687 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: that's not in the wheelhouse. Take a clothes off, you 688 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: look in that bathing suit. Yeah, Like that's not in 689 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: the wheelhouse of a typical nine to five. Not to 690 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: say people don't get pushed around and harassed in all 691 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: the things, but you're not emotionally manipulating yourself in a 692 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: group for your job with no guidance or help. Like, 693 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: so I do feel like, I'll say, I've got a 694 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: lot of work in healthcare and they do emotionally manipulate 695 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: themselves because they have to. That's compartment in a way 696 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: that we had to where it's like feelings, I can 697 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: control these things. Well, yeah, how do you witness suffering 698 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: every day and do your job? If you're a doctor, 699 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: if you're a nurse, if you work in a hospital, Yeah, 700 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: you get real good at disassociating, which, well you have 701 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: to as a profession for any of us. The suffering 702 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: person has to look at you and see a stable person. 703 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 1: They can't see you breaking down well to that extent 704 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: because the hairdressers have to do the same thing, you know, 705 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: So it's like you can find glimmers of this, of 706 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: that same thread. Yeah, like shadows of it. When you 707 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: are taking care of other people, you are not allowed 708 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: to authentically feel your feelings, and so especially when you're 709 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: a young person, it gets, you know, sloppy. Yeah, it 710 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: gets sloppy. And so I think the nicest thing we 711 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: can do is say, hey, your twenties are real sloppy, Sure, 712 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: love you anyway, and forties get way better. Kids, they 713 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: get so fun. Want to learn some of the stuff 714 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: we learned, will pass it on to you, and we'll 715 00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: also give you a discount for therapy. You're welcome, Right's right? 716 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: You know, please cut to the ad right now. Oh 717 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: my god, that's the best transition I've ever done. That 718 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 1: there's my directing at But it actually is really interesting 719 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: because thinking about the sort of tessellations of that expectation 720 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 1: to serve the group, you see our characters grappling with it. 721 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: You know, Hailey made a choice for herself and is 722 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: punished for it, and granted it was messy, but she's 723 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: a teenager. What was she supposed to know. Peyton is 724 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: having a real hard time, you know, not taking this 725 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: family stuff personally, and and is struggling to express how 726 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,959 Speaker 1: she feels, and has this conflict with her father because 727 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,919 Speaker 1: she feels betrayed and and Brooke doesn't want to get hurt, 728 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: so she's putting up all these walls and boundaries and 729 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: saying like, I'm in control of this, but really she 730 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: doesn't feel good about it. And all these kids are 731 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: just trying to figure out how to get back to 732 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 1: normal before they were heartbroken. But you can't unbreak heart, 733 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: and so you're just not the same after a heartbreak 734 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: as you were when you were like an innocent, little 735 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: freshly hatched chickling. Going to write a country song. I'm 736 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: going to write a country song called you Can't Break 737 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: Break Heart. Thank you, So I please write us that song. 738 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: Um So, I just don't matter what you do, you 739 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: can't own break a heart see the win a Grammy. 740 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 1: But I just think there's something really interesting about that, 741 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: not only in the landscape of our show, but in 742 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 1: this larger landscape of talking about how, even as grown 743 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: women in rooms, sometimes we don't feel like we know 744 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: what to do with our feelings. Yeah. I read a book. 745 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: It's a novel. It's called Elegance by Kathleen Testsero. I 746 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 1: read it last year. What a Name? And Uh. It's 747 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: about a woman who's um getting out of a marriage, 748 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: and she's always been sort of rather frumpy and just 749 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: not really given any much thought to her what she 750 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: puts forth into the world. She just shows up at 751 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: work and does her thing and goes back home. And 752 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: and she gets ahold of this vintage book on elegance, 753 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: and she starts going through the chapters for what each 754 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: chapters four And you know, some of its seems quite silly, 755 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: how to match your handbag to your outfit and things 756 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: like that, and then some of the things are are deeper. 757 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 1: And I tell you I haven't been affected by a 758 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: novel like this in a really long time, because while 759 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: I was reading this novel, I found myself so I 760 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: related to this character so much, and I so wanted 761 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: to slow down the way that she was slowing down 762 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: as she was learning how to not walk into a 763 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: room and apologize for herself immediately, how she was learning 764 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: to slow down instead. And I found myself doing it too, 765 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm a I'm like a ping pong ball 766 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,959 Speaker 1: around my house. If I leave something upstairs, I don't 767 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: walk upstairs to get it. I run upstairs and get it, 768 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: and then I run back downstairs to just sit back 769 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: down on the couch where I was like, I can't 770 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: just walk and sorry, I just had to say it. 771 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 1: Thanks Um. But I've really found that it helped. I've 772 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,879 Speaker 1: been wanting to go back and reread it because I've 773 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: gotten out of the habit that I was in during 774 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: the month. It took me a while to read because 775 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: I was doing other things. But during the month that 776 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: I was reading this book, I really slowed down and 777 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: I really was taking in my the appreciation for myself, 778 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: for my environment, will Um. And it wasn't a vanity 779 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: thing like I want to be elegant. It was I 780 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 1: deserve to carry myself in the world in a way 781 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: that that reflects my value. And it's really beautiful anyway, 782 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: I recommend it to you girls. But this just makes 783 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 1: me think of that because we do bounce. We bounce 784 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: all over the place, bing bing bing bing bing bing 785 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: bing from point point A to point z um, and 786 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: sometimes we just need to slow down, and that can 787 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: be hard to do, and we're constantly worried if people 788 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: like us or not. I really like you, guys, I 789 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: like you too. I like you too. Can I say 790 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: one thing about Haley. Um, this is the first time 791 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: this episode. I don't know why. I think it was 792 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: something Peyton said. I can't remember. It was one of 793 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: you two. One of you two said something about like 794 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,479 Speaker 1: the choice that she the choice that I made. And 795 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: I think for the first time, I'm realizing that Haley 796 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: has always been always Peyton. Peyton was mad at Haley, 797 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 1: and why at Haley. She's mad at yes, yes, but 798 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: what she said wasn't totally untrue. And what I realized 799 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: is that Haley actually has been a part of a 800 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: unit her entire life, a family unit, all those kids, 801 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: and then got married, immediately left her parents house and 802 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: got married, so no wonder. She just was like, ah, 803 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta be on my own. I have 804 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: to figure out how to be on Yeah, it kind 805 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 1: of It was the first time I realized that with her, 806 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: that everyone needs that space that time. UM, I agree 807 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: with you, and I think that the way Haley came back, 808 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: not bouncing all over the place, you were very still, 809 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: and you were very like, quiet but firm. It was 810 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: a strong move because another actress could have been like, please, Nathan, 811 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: take me back Nathan, it's too much. I can't bear it. 812 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: Um and you you were slow and methodical about it, 813 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: and you had to repeat yourself over and over again. 814 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: And it never felt stagnant or stale. It was just 815 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: firm and loving. And I think that's that's what anybody 816 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: who like putting myself in Nathan shoes if the trust 817 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: is gone, firm and slow and steady is exactly what 818 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 1: you're looking for. It's like, calm it down, let's remove 819 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: the melodrama, make me believe you. And it shows that 820 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: she learned something and is sure. And you have this 821 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: idea that she was always any unit and never got 822 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: to do something for herself. She went out, she went 823 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: and had her hero's journey. She went out on her own. Sure, 824 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 1: And that's very nice. And it's weird as you're saying 825 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: all this Hillary, where you're like the slow in the steady, 826 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's what Brooke is trying to get 827 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,399 Speaker 1: Lucas to teach her he is yes. She wants him 828 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: to prove that he is sure being steady storyline. I 829 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: didn't see it until just now, but she's like, you 830 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: want to show your short prove it slow and steady 831 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna test you, I'm gonna push you. Let me 832 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, I wonder if Brooke and Nathan are 833 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 1: about to kind of be in the same place, Like, 834 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: is Nathan going to test Haley? Mm hmmm. I don't know. 835 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't remember, but I'm I'm deeply 836 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: that's what this episode is all about testing love, Like 837 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: because Peyton and Peyton Peyton dad guys. I had no 838 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 1: recollection of how firm Kevin Kilner was with me in 839 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 1: those scenes where he's like, you can be mad, but 840 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: don't you dare bring your mother into this, and he 841 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 1: doesn't hug her and he never tries to like smother 842 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,919 Speaker 1: her with affection or anything like that, and he said 843 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 1: a boundary. Well, in min mind because Kelvin Kilner was 844 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 1: someone who I really really liked a lot, and we 845 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: ended up working together later on White Collar Um. Kevin 846 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: Kilner is the best and has such good dad energy, 847 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: and I guess in my mind I thought we were 848 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: all like warm and fuzzy, and Larry is not warm 849 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: and fuzzy with Peyton here and she's testing his love 850 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,359 Speaker 1: and instead of doing the whole like I'm going to 851 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: tell you, I love you over and over again. He's like, 852 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: knock it off, you're being a rat. Stop it like 853 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:42,800 Speaker 1: good parenting. It was hard parenting, but he's he's I 854 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: I loved Thomas who played my dad before, but Kevin 855 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: felt like dad, Like I wish he would have come 856 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: back for weddings and things because he was so good. 857 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 1: I know. And you pointed out something so interesting when 858 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: when he came on screen, where we were like, oh 859 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 1: my god. Even Kilner looks so much like Brian Greenberg. 860 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: They always say like, you know, you fall in love 861 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: with the version of your dad, and it's like, holy 862 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:17,320 Speaker 1: Jake Jagowski and and Larry Sawyer are twinsies. Yes, Peyton's 863 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 1: got dad issues, mom issues, best friend issues she has. 864 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 1: She's just a regular high school girl man. Peyton on 865 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 1: her walls. I love that, you know what, This is 866 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: the first episode. I know Peyton has been very artistic 867 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: obviously the last few seasons, but this is the first 868 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: episode I really remember seeing the art, the artistry coming 869 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: out literally onto her walls, just pouring out of her 870 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 1: everywhere she goes. I love that, the breaking the mold, 871 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 1: breaking the boundaries, just like, yes, paint on my walls 872 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: and the throat whatever. Yeah, that that mural with those 873 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 1: faces and the one like hypnotist wheel and the six 874 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 1: billion that is a sense memory for me, like the 875 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: hours we used to spend in that room, like and 876 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,839 Speaker 1: we would find a random face and like make up 877 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 1: stories about that face in the crowd from yeah, oh 878 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: my god, I remember, and we would like we would 879 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: like assign crew members we worked with to some of 880 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,959 Speaker 1: those faces to be like that's you, Brian, or that's you, 881 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, we just steered at it for 882 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: so so long. And I don't know where that pictures from. 883 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: Like I don't either. I love that backstory. At some 884 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 1: point we have to have some art department members on 885 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: the show because they can walk us through like the 886 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: lamps of it all that weird head on the desk. 887 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: We've got to do that. I want to know where 888 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: all that stuff came from. That was a really big deal, 889 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: wasn't it. That moment in the city when you painted 890 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 1: the number on the wall and that of the most 891 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: famous quotes of the show. Yes, I mean that stands 892 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: alone in the Zite Gay. We've had a lot of 893 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: people get engaged using that quote, like and people like 894 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 1: use it in their wedding videos and stuff, because that's 895 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,760 Speaker 1: all you need is one quote is like, I swear 896 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: that's Lady Gaga's that's where she got it, That's where 897 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: she got it. It has to be I like the 898 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,439 Speaker 1: ownership repeat of her. She used that same quote over 899 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: and over and over in all these different interviews. You 900 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: have to google Lady Gaga. All you need is honestly, 901 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm down for God to be one real fan. Let's 902 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: do wish. That sounds fun. Does she want to come 903 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: from Red Bedroom Records? She should. I used to get 904 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: to hang out with her in Chicago. She's a babe, 905 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 1: and that's right. She's great. I love that's awesome. I 906 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: remember texting Jenny being like, it's happened. My girlfriend Jenny, 907 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: who's one of my best friends from Walmington's um. You know, 908 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: we we used to like take a party bus down 909 00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 1: to Rally to go to Gaga shows, UM when she 910 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 1: was touring, So like, oh my god, I was like, 911 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 1: it's happening. I've met her. It's so great. We've we've 912 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: achieved to the next level of Super Mario Brothers or whatever, 913 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: the you know, Like I was like, Gus insane. I 914 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,879 Speaker 1: mean in the Matrix. Yeah, weird in life, those those 915 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 1: level of moments where I'm just like, did I hit 916 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: the right mushroom? And now I'm here? What? Like what happened? Guys? Literally, 917 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 1: my son just got a game Boy from the nineties 918 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 1: for he we went to like a vintage Tetris. He 919 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: got Tetris, but he got Super Mario Brothers too, and 920 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: so he's like, it's like it's like we're back because 921 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: I hear that sound, just like it's like he's hitting 922 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: all the mushrooms. Um, go for it. Guess you get 923 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: those mushrooms you get? Guys, we have listener questions we do? 924 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: Do you want to should we read some of the Yeah, 925 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 1: well she just Beth wants to know who your favorite 926 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: musical guest over your time on the show was. Yeah, 927 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:13,319 Speaker 1: I wish we'd had Gaga on this show. Right, it's 928 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: like the beginning of her like trajectory. Yeah, damn, I 929 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: would love. Did we ever end up getting like pe 930 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: I know you loved Peaches early on? Did she ever come? 931 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 1: My God? I love Peaches? I know, guys, we love that. 932 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: We will play in the trailer and make people and 933 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 1: over again. I love it so much. Oh God, that 934 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: was I forgot about that. Joy, I'm so glad you're man. Okay, 935 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: so she wasn't on this show, but anyway, I remember that. No, 936 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: I loved Grace Potter, man, I still love Grace Potter. 937 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: Of her Yeah, she's so talented. Yeah, one of for me, 938 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,879 Speaker 1: also one of the best. Like there were so many 939 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:05,280 Speaker 1: moments that were cool, but god, she was just she's 940 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: like a she's like a mirrage, Like she feels like 941 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 1: she came from another world. She's awesomember to Yeah, and 942 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: that felt so cool too, because that that when they 943 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 1: came on the show, we got to do that big 944 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: USO show and it felt so special to be able 945 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 1: to kind of use the platform of our television show 946 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 1: to go and throw a massive event like for the 947 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,439 Speaker 1: troops and their families. That that was special. That's when 948 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us were like, oh, we 949 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 1: could do stuff with this. Yeah, we could actually do 950 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 1: good in the world or like at least, you know, 951 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: interact with people on a more authentic basis. Like it's 952 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 1: one thing to go and like sign autographs and shake hands, 953 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 1: but it's another thing to put on a show and 954 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 1: go spend time with the families and get to know people, 955 00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 1: and that was a that was a really special experience. Um, 956 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: Jack's mannequin was another really great get you know. That 957 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,760 Speaker 1: was God, that was a fun one. Yeah, we were lucky. 958 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: We're anybody anybody right now that you guys would want 959 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: on like who who right now? Would be? I know 960 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: who you want? But I wasn't even going to say 961 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: that because I, yeah, everyone already knows that I'm not 962 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 1: trying to make Who do I want? That little chick 963 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,920 Speaker 1: is so cute? You know who? I would love if 964 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: we were making the show right now, I would make 965 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: my friend Jack Garrett come and play because he's just God, 966 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 1: He's just the best. And like, I love nothing more 967 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: than taking people who haven't seen him perform live to 968 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: a Jack Garrett show because I'm like, your brain is 969 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 1: going to explode and I can't wait to have it explodes. Yeah, 970 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,479 Speaker 1: it's my favorite. What about Leo Leon Bridges? That would 971 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 1: be some that feels real brand that'd be special. Yeah, yeah, 972 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 1: all right, what's our other question? Well, Katie says, I 973 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 1: want to know how much of how a line is 974 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: said is down to the actor and how much is 975 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: down to the director. Depends on the director truly, I 976 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 1: will say. And we talked about this while we were 977 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: watching the episode and as we're all um in our 978 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: in our late night Spice Brooks one liners are getting 979 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 1: so good, so good. Oh you've got the best dialogue 980 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: right now in the airport when Haley comes to the apartment, 981 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 1: and I remember being so thrilled, like the sense memory 982 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: I had watching that scene when you walked enjoy and 983 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 1: I went, I got room for you, but not a 984 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: lot of pity. And I remember when we were shooting 985 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: it and whatever that is, like I caught the rhythm 986 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, that's it, that's the and I 987 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 1: forgot the feeling because it was twenty years ago and 988 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 1: we watched the scene and I was like, oh my god, 989 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 1: and you guys just been laughing because at the airport 990 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: at the beginning it was great, too funny, and these 991 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: aren't for me, okay, great, like there's my cap I 992 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: just god, it was like what do you say? Quick? Quick? 993 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:27,439 Speaker 1: Tell me you love me? Loved it? Oh my god. 994 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 1: So I will say I think like yeah, sometimes a 995 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: director will come and say, you know, put more of 996 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: this under it or whatever. They don't tell you how 997 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 1: to say something. It's like very there's a big faulx 998 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: paw in our industry with what's called a line reading. 999 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 1: Someone comes and like reads your line for you. They're 1000 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 1: they're emotionally fired. Um. But I actually don't mind a 1001 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: line reading really, um, just the director and I trust 1002 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 1: the director. Yes, if it's not working, that's the thing, 1003 00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,760 Speaker 1: you have to let me try it. If I if 1004 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying it and I'm not understanding what you're saying, 1005 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,560 Speaker 1: just tell me what you just tell me. It's fine 1006 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: because because if I can hear you say it the 1007 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 1: way that you think it should be said, then I 1008 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 1: can actually understand whether or not that's going to make 1009 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 1: sense for me or not. But if I don't really 1010 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: get what you're saying, if you can't communicate in a way, 1011 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: that's like if we're just we're missing like you're saying it, 1012 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 1: and I'm not here for whatever for whatever reason, Yeah, 1013 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 1: then I don't mind. I don't mind a line reading. 1014 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 1: I remember I remember working on White Collar and you know, 1015 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 1: we had just come from North Carolina for six seven years, 1016 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 1: and I had to say some like business word and 1017 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: I kept saying it was like a jojo accident, and 1018 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:47,439 Speaker 1: the director would just yell from behind the monitor. God, 1019 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 1: what was that word? It was? Oh, it was something 1020 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 1: so stupid about like business contracts or some legal ship. 1021 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: And they were just like, where did you come from 1022 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: in that situation? Yes, give me that line reading, say 1023 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 1: it over again, spell it out phonetically, put it on 1024 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 1: a cue card. Oh I love it. But yeah, I 1025 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,440 Speaker 1: think that's that's the interesting thing. You know, directors rotate 1026 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 1: on TV and we're there all the time. So um, 1027 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 1: there's just something that happens in this season where you 1028 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 1: can really see everybody kind of clicking into the next level. 1029 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 1: And something happened, particularly because I'm reliving it now, like 1030 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: something happened with the way that the writer's room and 1031 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: I like clicked into Brooks comedy in like a deeper way. 1032 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 1: And I would just read the scripts and giggle. I 1033 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: was so excited. I think they realized everybody else was 1034 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 1: everybody else was weeping in the I just got so excited. 1035 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 1: I'd read these lines and be like, oh, I can't wait, 1036 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:58,440 Speaker 1: I have i'mun them up with this one. So well, 1037 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 1: you did it brilliantly or so good. I love book. 1038 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 1: I love brook more and more every day. Me too. God, 1039 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 1: I loved her. I get it. Well, should we spen 1040 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: a wheel? I want to spend the wheel. It's amazing 1041 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 1: that we can talk for long. I know. This is joy, guys, 1042 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,919 Speaker 1: this is is killing at home? We know. Uh. This 1043 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 1: week's most likely too, is who is most likely to 1044 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 1: leave their It's not even a question and a question 1045 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 1: of who is a question of when's the last time 1046 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 1: she did it? Yes? When last time in Charleston in November. 1047 01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that cute guy in charle E'll say 1048 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 1: we got a picture he was. I love it so much. 1049 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 1: She'll text us and be like, guess what I did? 1050 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 1: We know what you did. It's why we love you. 1051 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: We know every little detail were enough to have Joy 1052 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:27,280 Speaker 1: lens saunter into your establishment. You better, mama. We might 1053 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 1: get a phone number. Never know. Okay who who the characters? 1054 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: I think Brooke, Oh yeah, Brooke Davis. Yeah, Brooke Davis 1055 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 1: would leave her phone number on a receipt and then 1056 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 1: walk up to the waiter and hold it. They would not, 1057 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be But you know I like that about her. 1058 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 1: Love it well, guys are next episode is the three 1059 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 1: episode two from the Edge of the Deep Green Sea. Wow. 1060 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 1: So drum. Well this I missed you guys, guys so much. 1061 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 1: I missed you too. Next time, what's reporter like four 1062 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, you know, like we'll let the 1063 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 1: fans figure out what we're up to our late night antics. 1064 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for bearing with us, guy, all right, see you 1065 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 1: next week, lovey, Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to 1066 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 1: leave us a review. You can also follow us on 1067 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: Instagram at Drama Queens O t H. Or email us 1068 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 1: at Drama Queens at I heart radio dot com. See 1069 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:36,360 Speaker 1: you next time. We are all about that high school drama. 1070 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 1: Girl Drama Girl, all about them high school queens. 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