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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome back to Unfiltered, the JBL podcast,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio production in partnership with JBL. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Betty Who. I'm so glad to have you here with

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Speaker 1: me on this journey. I've gotten to talk to so

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Speaker 1: many amazing people, and I really leave these conversations so inspired,

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Speaker 1: so I hope you are too. I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: spoken to some incredible young people, and today's conversation.

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Speaker 2: Is absolutely no exception.

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Speaker 1: Our guest today is not just an impressive athlete, but

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Speaker 1: she is also.

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Speaker 2: A literal Olympian.

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Speaker 1: I am joined by Alona Ma, a professional rugby player

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Speaker 1: who is unapologetic on and off the pitch.

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Speaker 2: It's deeper than Winna lose though.

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Speaker 1: Rugby helped Alona find the confidence in herself and her game,

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Speaker 1: spreading her love for rugby, Alona documents the behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes of her life as an elite athlete with her

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Speaker 1: almost one million TikTok followers. Undeniably, Alona is a big

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Speaker 1: personality and a powerhouse athlete.

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Speaker 2: So why don't we get right into it? So, I'm

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Speaker 2: so glad you're here.

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Speaker 1: I have so many questions for you, obviously, but the

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Speaker 1: first thing I want to kind of start with is

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Speaker 1: Obviously it's I'm Australian, so I know all about rugby,

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Speaker 1: but it's not a particularly American like cultured sport.

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Speaker 2: So I want to know, like how you found it,

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Speaker 2: or maybe how it found you.

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Speaker 1: I know you played a bunch of different sports in

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Speaker 1: high school, Like, tell me a little bit about how

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Speaker 1: it all got started for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, my dad's actually a rugby guy.

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Speaker 3: He's been playing like rugby for thirty years, but he

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Speaker 3: always encouraged us to play so many other sports, so

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Speaker 3: you know, whether it's softball, basketball, fiel, hockey, we just

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Speaker 3: played all these sports because he saw the benefits of

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Speaker 3: playing sports, especially in girls, and being in these team activities.

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Speaker 3: So I played a lot of sports, and I think

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Speaker 3: I was just kind of made to be an athlete, honestly,

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Speaker 3: whether it's genetics or whatnot. You know, sports was my

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Speaker 3: social life. It was my club and whatever sport I

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Speaker 3: I didn't wasn't cool, didn't really go to parties or

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Speaker 3: anything like that. But I went to basketball games and

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Speaker 3: then I tried out rugby and it like literally fit

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Speaker 3: my body like a glove. Because it was just amazing

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Speaker 3: mix of physicality that we don't see in a lot

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Speaker 3: of women's games. And it's the same as men, which

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Speaker 3: you know, it's like men and women are the same.

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Speaker 3: And in other countries rugby is the shit, you know.

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Speaker 3: In Australia, it's the coolest thing.

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Speaker 2: It's the biggest. Yeah, it's literally massive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean the Australian women's team just won

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Speaker 3: the World Cup in sevens and they've done all these

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Speaker 3: other things, and the thing that what they're doing for

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Speaker 3: have a different way of thinking about it. So I

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Speaker 3: It has helped me in my life, and I think

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Speaker 3: it helped so many other people as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really appreciate that your dad was really like

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Speaker 1: It's like this is a part of my lifestyle and

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Speaker 1: the thing that I love. Like, how much did you

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Speaker 1: find when you were growing up, like how unusual was

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Speaker 1: your parents made to sort of support that side of you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it was unusual that the girls

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Speaker 3: he wanted us to be the best in sports. He

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Speaker 3: at a softball game once and I was pitching hard,

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Speaker 3: just like, if you're going to do just thing, be

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Speaker 3: of what has led me to be the athlete that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so amazing. How much do you like because

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Speaker 1: rugby is a very physical sport. Yeah, do you have

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Speaker 1: like your recollection of the first time you're like on

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Speaker 2: In your body?

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Speaker 3: I think if from even all the other sports I played,

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Speaker 3: you know, whenever I was on the field I would

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Speaker 3: On basketball, I was always a power center and I

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Speaker 3: like so cool to go out there to be like

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Speaker 3: because I mean, I feel like you feel a soccer field.

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Speaker 3: it's like they saw me and they were like, this

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Speaker 3: is amazing, Yes, exactly what I want. And I think

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Speaker 3: that's what's helped me as well. To grow into my

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Speaker 4: You're the perfect the way you are. We want you

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Speaker 1: Genuinely sounds like rugby found you in that way where

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, like the things that you've been insecure

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Speaker 1: like that must have felt so freeing and validating.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it for sure does.

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Speaker 3: And I think one thing that really helped was like

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Speaker 3: I got into my couple of rugby teams. But then

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Speaker 3: once I got into the USA team and some of

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Speaker 3: my teammates on the USA team were like so cool

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Speaker 3: is wow to be around other confident women because like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 4: It's empowering.

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Speaker 3: And so like my teammates on USA were like a

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Speaker 4: Like I feel like I have a place to see

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Speaker 3: And you want to find your own confidence, but it's hard,

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Speaker 3: because of what they've done for me and what my

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Speaker 1: So I love to hear that's also so perfect. Again,

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Speaker 1: I love You're the perfect guest for the show, because

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Speaker 1: the entire point of the show is to talk about

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Speaker 1: like being yourself and trying to find how to live

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Speaker 1: into the best parts of yourself and the person you

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Speaker 1: were born to be. So it's so beautiful that you

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Speaker 1: found this community. Like I think that's so special and awesome,

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Speaker 1: and it sounds like you've really found I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think what so many people spend their literal, entire lives

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Speaker 1: searching for. Sometimes I feel overwhelmed by responsibility. Like you say,

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Speaker 1: it's really important to you to like show you know,

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Speaker 1: you've seen how women can make you feel about yourself,

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Speaker 2: Like do you ever feel pressure for that?

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Speaker 1: Like for me, I'll have a bad day, right and

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Speaker 1: it's really hard for me to be perceived right now,

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Speaker 4: I think one thing I deal with is like this

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Speaker 4: idea of role model.

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Speaker 3: Like everyone's like, oh, you're a role model, and I'm

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Speaker 3: like ah, because it's a scary title because I think

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Speaker 3: with role model they attach so many things, Like people

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Speaker 3: think role models as perfect. They do all the best things,

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Speaker 3: So like that worries me because like, yeah, I hear

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Speaker 3: like young girls who follow me, and I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: love aspiring young girls, but like I am also a

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Speaker 3: twenty six year old woman, yea who has all sorts

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Speaker 3: a role model in some senses. I'm a role model

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Speaker 3: in that I've worked very hard. I've been to school,

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Speaker 3: I got my master's, I'm a hard worker on the field.

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Speaker 3: But then I'm not really role modeling that I also

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Speaker 3: like to get drunk and have fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, and by the way, that's fine, Like that shouldn't

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Speaker 1: disqualify you from being a role model.

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Speaker 2: You're being yourself and enjoying yourself.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's maybe what's sometimes when you're put

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Speaker 1: to be actually really perfect yes for people to follow

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Speaker 1: an example, and it's like no that I think maybe

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Speaker 1: the reason you were you blew up on TikTok is

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Speaker 1: because you're being yourself. Yeah, not because you're trying to

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Speaker 1: be a version of yourself. That's the role model that

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, this is just who I am.

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Speaker 3: Like here I am no for sure, And I think

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Speaker 3: that's why I like, oh, yeah, I'm a role model

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Speaker 3: and I make all these mistakes, so like that's sometimes

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Speaker 3: You say you're unapologetically yourself? People ever say that to you?

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's like people wait around their whole lives to be like,

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Speaker 2: It's like, no one is ever going to do that

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Speaker 4: You just got to do it, so.

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Speaker 2: Know, cool vibe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and people who feel like they don't have the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always interesting all those people say it to me,

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Speaker 3: And I think one thing that's really helped me it

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Speaker 1: It's like a domino effect, right, you push it over

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Speaker 2: And you're like, yes, join me, ladies, join us, Sun

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Speaker 2: And now back to the show.

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Speaker 1: I do want to know what's the like pre game ritual,

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Speaker 1: what's your how are you in the zone? Paint a

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Speaker 4: Yes, I like to think of myself as the hype woman.

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Speaker 2: I think of myself as the hype woman. Alona.

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Speaker 1: Of course this is sick, but we can't go to

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Speaker 1: a wedding together. We have big wedding energy. Do you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, big wedding energy. I'm always on

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Speaker 1: OX two. I stay getting into fights with wedding DJs

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Speaker 1: because I'm like, I know what these people need.

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Speaker 2: We need to have a conversation about it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, we need some early two thousands percent.

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Speaker 2: Please please play Beyonce, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like to get hype.

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Speaker 3: I like to think I'm kind of a moodsetter for

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Speaker 4: One thing I don't do is I don't really have

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Speaker 4: any superstitions like.

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Speaker 3: Oh I have to eat a bagel with cream cheese,

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Speaker 3: or like wear the same pair of socks or something. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I just think, like if I am banking my play

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Speaker 3: It's not a pair of sox. What I eat is

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Speaker 3: And then I like to just set the vibes very uplifting,

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Speaker 3: But there's somebody who want another person to hype them

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Speaker 2: Like what what do we need? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What tea pain song? Do they want to hear?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: You know? And then I just go out there and

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Speaker 3: it's a very short game, fourteen minute games, so you

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Speaker 3: and then you come out and you you got to relax,

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like I feel this sometimes too when

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Speaker 1: twenty five out of ten Alona is ready to like

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Speaker 3: I would say, like if I'm sad, I'll show it outwardly.

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Speaker 3: But what I'm trying to get better at and it's

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Speaker 4: Pump me up.

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Speaker 3: I think it's really I'm the one who gets myself

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Speaker 3: Like you hear those emotions, you know it. But what's

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Speaker 3: Because we can have all the bad thoughts in the world,

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And how much like you know, you said, like cool,

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Speaker 3: Winning drives me because winning means funding for my team,

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Speaker 3: Doesn't even care if I win or lose. If we

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Speaker 4: So winning means so much more to me.

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Speaker 3: And I think I for sure understand that because, like me,

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Speaker 4: So it's deeper for me than just win or lose.

442
00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think makes it more meaningful than when

443
00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,360
Speaker 1: you do win, because you're like you're fighting for something more.

444
00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,680
Speaker 1: Maybe that's like something that is really meaningful as far

445
00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,640
Speaker 1: as in sports, in competition, Like if it was all

446
00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,600
Speaker 1: just you know, actually just a big game, it's like

447
00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,440
Speaker 1: in the end, you're like it's a game, really, Like.

448
00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,840
Speaker 2: Yes, you have to want to play for something more.

449
00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,960
Speaker 1: It sounds like I think your motivations are so strong

450
00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,919
Speaker 1: because it's about servicing other young women you know, it's

451
00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,760
Speaker 1: about yea providing space and community for this thing that

452
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,120
Speaker 1: you love so much and it's growing and you want

453
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Speaker 1: to help grow it.

454
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Speaker 2: So that's incredible.

455
00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a game, but like to me, it's so

456
00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,400
Speaker 3: much more. And it's my life, it's my passion. So yeah,

457
00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,760
Speaker 3: it's okay if you win or lose.

458
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Speaker 4: No, I want to win. I want to win because

459
00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:02,040
Speaker 4: it means a lot.

460
00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,680
Speaker 1: Hell yeah it does. Okay, So pre warm up, you're

461
00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,280
Speaker 1: on the aux. What's your favorite music? You know, I

462
00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,040
Speaker 1: care music, that's my thing. What's your vibe before a game?

463
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Speaker 3: Let me look at my quick turney playlist? So then

464
00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,199
Speaker 3: oh yeah, turney playlist. I want the tourney playlist. I'm

465
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,639
Speaker 3: gonna make you texted to me. Okay, okay, Well, I

466
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,760
Speaker 3: personally love old some old songs.

467
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,440
Speaker 2: You know, I'm an oldies gal.

468
00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,000
Speaker 3: Yes, nothing will get me more hype than that, to

469
00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,960
Speaker 3: be honest, I got on here.

470
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Speaker 4: How will I know?

471
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Speaker 2: Whitney Houston excellent, excellent choice.

472
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Speaker 4: Why I don't know? Waiting for tonight? Jennifer Lopez. I

473
00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,199
Speaker 4: love Jennifer Lopez.

474
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Speaker 2: I love Jennifer Lopez.

475
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Speaker 4: I love with all my heart Alona.

476
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Speaker 3: Should we go to a j Low concert. Yeah, have

477
00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,439
Speaker 3: you been to a j Loo concert? I haven't, but

478
00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,120
Speaker 3: she liked my post recently.

479
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Speaker 1: No, but if you're listening, you can't see us, but

480
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,960
Speaker 1: we are silent because we are speechless because Jlo liked

481
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:51,440
Speaker 1: your post.

482
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Speaker 2: What was the post?

483
00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,840
Speaker 3: Well, in the Olympics, I said she was like my

484
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,639
Speaker 3: number one, and so she started like following me and like,

485
00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,240
Speaker 3: I've never been happy in my life. I think she's

486
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,200
Speaker 3: so talented. I'm squealing for you everything she does. Jlo

487
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,160
Speaker 3: melted my face off when I saw her live.

488
00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,720
Speaker 4: A performer and actress, a singer.

489
00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 1: She literally fucking does it all. A dancer, a dan's,

490
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,960
Speaker 1: a mom entrepreneur.

491
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 4: You know what doesn't she do? But yeah, if there's

492
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,439
Speaker 4: a j Loo cotter coming up, let's do it.

493
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm putting this in our cal Okay.

494
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Speaker 3: Perfect, I got fire burning. John kinkson Hot in Here,

495
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 3: Nelly that always gets me hyped.

496
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Speaker 1: Hot in Here, I feel I can see the team

497
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:28,879
Speaker 1: getting really jacked.

498
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Speaker 2: Hot in Here is a team song.

499
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Speaker 3: Yes, it really is. Let's get Loud again, Jlo nice.

500
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Speaker 2: Let's get Loud is a good one.

501
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do I got? I got promiscuous? Oh, Damn,

502
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 3: I have the Thong song on here.

503
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Speaker 4: I don't really know why.

504
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Speaker 2: Fuck guess I know why that song goes.

505
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 3: This is how we do it. Nice work it, Miss Elliott,

506
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Speaker 3: push it.

507
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna need this playletst this is a good playlist.

508
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Speaker 3: This is send it to you. It's really just like

509
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Speaker 3: whatever I want to listen to. And then I have

510
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Speaker 3: a teammate who only likes listening to Drake. So like,

511
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Speaker 3: after I've gotten in all of my she's like, hey,

512
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Speaker 3: can we turn on any Drake song?

513
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, literally, any Drake song? Cool? Okay, Okay,

514
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:06,679
Speaker 2: I got it. I got it.

515
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Speaker 4: But I do take pride in being the vibe master.

516
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 4: It's a tough job, but I do it.

517
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Speaker 1: You sound like you were born for it. I think

518
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: this is something we share. I like to be a

519
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 1: vibe master as well.

520
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Speaker 2: I do. I love this energy in us.

521
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Speaker 1: I had a dream that if music failed me, I

522
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: would start a business where I became like basically vibe

523
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Speaker 1: master of weddings because I love weddings.

524
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Speaker 2: I love love.

525
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Speaker 1: I love it's like the best day of everybody's life.

526
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Speaker 1: And I just like I love bringing the energy in

527
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Speaker 1: a wedding.

528
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Speaker 2: Any wedding.

529
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Speaker 1: I go to like, I get the dance floor going,

530
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's like very I think we.

531
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Speaker 2: Share this energy.

532
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Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent.

533
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Speaker 1: You saw me at the lead of their own premiere.

534
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Speaker 1: You saw me tear it up that dance floor.

535
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Speaker 4: I saw you.

536
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Speaker 3: I was like, there wasn't even a dance floor of folks,

537
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 3: It was just a patch of like artificial grass right

538
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 3: in front of the made it a dance floor.

539
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Speaker 4: She made it there with like one other one other person.

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Speaker 1: It was just my best friend Sarah and I were like,

541
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Speaker 1: this is going to be this is our night. We're

542
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Speaker 1: dancing tonight. Everybody else is like mingling and being professional,

543
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 1: and I was like sweating, burning a thousand calories on

544
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Speaker 1: the dance floor.

545
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Speaker 2: Yes, do it my thing.

546
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Speaker 4: Oh I love that. I need to do that more

547
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 4: as well.

548
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Speaker 3: And I think again, people just want somebody to get

549
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 3: it started, somebody who will get out there and do it.

550
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay.

551
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Speaker 1: The thing that I really want to know, honestly, is

552
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Speaker 1: what is like the thing that you could say is

553
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Speaker 1: one of the number one things that helped you find

554
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 1: the contentment and who you are, the ability to be

555
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 1: that sort of like this is who I am. I'm

556
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Speaker 1: really comfortable and to be twenty six and already be

557
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 1: like so authentic and know yourself so well, Like how

558
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: did you get there? How did you find this place

559
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Speaker 1: that you're in right now?

560
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Speaker 3: I think it's been a combo of thanks for sure,

561
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 3: the Rugby, like I kind of all the things I

562
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 3: was saying, like the Rugby just being so accepting of

563
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 3: you as a person, as your body type, as a person,

564
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 3: my family, for sure, Like I have such amazing sports

565
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 3: as with my two sisters, my mom, and my dad,

566
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Speaker 3: you know, being who I am here and then my

567
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 3: team environment as well, for my USA team has really

568
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 3: helped me out. And I think the number one thing

569
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Speaker 3: is just realizing, like everyone is so unique, so different,

570
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 3: and this world would be such a boring place if

571
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 3: we were all the same. And I want other people

572
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,239
Speaker 3: to feel so confident to be themselves, so even if

573
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 3: that means I have to. I have so many awkward situations.

574
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 3: I get in, I say weird stuff, I do the

575
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 3: wrong things. But out here being silly geese, oh just

576
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 3: a silly goose sometimes quirky, quirky you might call it,

577
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: but like to me, everyone is insecure and uncomfortable sometimes

578
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 3: and like I am so much, but I'm like fuck it, Yeah, Okay,

579
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be that way, but I'm gonna be myself

580
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 3: in that way, and I'm going to own up that

581
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: I'm loud and.

582
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Speaker 4: I say weird stuff sometimes and I love to do

583
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Speaker 4: this and I love to watch this.

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Speaker 3: So that's what's really helped me is to like take

585
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Speaker 3: a look around and see that everyone is on the

586
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Speaker 3: same boat, and like if someone can just take the

587
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Speaker 3: step out, I think it helps a lot because I've

588
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Speaker 3: seen the people who did that and how it's helped me,

589
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 3: and I know I can help others.

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Speaker 1: That's my last question for you, is like a piece

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Speaker 1: of advice for people who are trying to find themselves

592
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: and live into themselves a little bit more comfortably, like

593
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Speaker 1: let go of any shame and fear about being themselves.

594
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: Like what is your advice, especially the young women, because

595
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Speaker 1: it sounds like that's who you're really trying to affect

596
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Speaker 1: it and create a safer space for in the world.

597
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, like.

598
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Speaker 3: Really understand how perfect you are and how everything that

599
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 3: you are is like exactly how it's supposed to be.

600
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Speaker 3: Because we're all different, we're all unique and again, I

601
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 3: see this all the time. It would be so boring

602
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 3: if you're all the same, it would be so so boring.

603
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: And yeah, a lot of people are going to like you.

604
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: That's something I'm really trying to figure out because I

605
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: want everybody to like me. I would love it if

606
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: I was everyone's favorite person.

607
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Speaker 4: But that's not the case, and.

608
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Speaker 3: That's just not gonna happen because I don't like everybody,

609
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Speaker 3: So why am I going to expect everyone like me?

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Speaker 2: Totally? Yeah, that's a good point.

611
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 3: So not everyone's gonna like you, But again, you're not

612
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 3: for everybody, and really just yourself in the freeness that

613
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Speaker 3: you can feel when you start just appreciating the little

614
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 3: things about yourself and like appreciating what.

615
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 4: Your body can do for you.

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00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 3: That's the main thing I say, is like, you're not

617
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: gonna love your body all the time, but if you

618
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 3: can appreciate what it does for you, like, Okay, well

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Speaker 3: it still wakes me up of the morning, it still

620
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 3: takes me on walks, it still plays rugby for me.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's so freeing and everyone wants to be themselves.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. Everyone would love to be unapologetic to themselves.

624
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 3: So if you can just step out and be yourself, yeah,

625
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: not a lot people they are gonna vibe with it.

626
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Speaker 3: But you've stepped out and you've done something so many

627
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Speaker 3: people couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Do well, and the people who do vibe like, sure,

629
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Speaker 1: some people might not, yeah, but the people who do

630
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 1: see you and vibe with you in your truest self

631
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: are going to feel ten times more seen, ten times

632
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: more represented, ten times more connected to you, which is like,

633
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Speaker 1: especially for someone like you who really just values community

634
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: and yeah, and you know, your favorite part about rugby

635
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: is like the people you get to meet along the way.

636
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: It's like that is so important and I think such

637
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Speaker 1: a statement to live by. So I'm so inspired and

638
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: grateful for your time. I could literally let's go to Jlo. Okay,

639
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: all right, you let me know how out my arm

640
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: you're twisting it. Fine, I guess I'll be there.

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Speaker 4: I handwai.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being yourself.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank Alonam again for joining me today.

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Speaker 1: Talk about being at the top of your game and man,

646
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Speaker 1: oh man, do we have so many plans coming up now.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get this playlist going in the gym.

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Speaker 1: We're going to go to Jennifer Lopez. You had it

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Speaker 1: here first, Jrelo. If you're listening, that's it for today's episode,

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Speaker 1: produced by Sierra Kaiser. Special thanks to our friends at

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Speaker 1: JBL Initiative and Donna