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Speaker 1: Oh, we are so back with Between the Horns, presented

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Speaker 1: about your southern California Toyota dealers every week from now

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Speaker 1: until the playoffs the super Bowl. Let's keep it going.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Siciliano DeMarco far JB. Long here at our new

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Speaker 1: home in Woodland Hills. This is a special fifty three

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Speaker 1: man roster edition of Between the Horns. But really it's

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Speaker 1: a special Happy birthday and.

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday man. Thank you guys, welcome. I'm touched.

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Speaker 1: I'm flattering a move that you actually remember.

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Speaker 2: Who's my birthday?

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Speaker 1: Not only remember, but like I tried to wear the

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Speaker 1: exact same pants.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: This we I think we're wearing that identical pants. We

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Speaker 1: look like a band. What's the name of the band?

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Speaker 2: We'll come up with one later, okay, three, how about that? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Or trade me?

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Speaker 3: Thankfully I'm not fifty three. There is the roster is

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Speaker 3: no show today. This was all just stage two. Get

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Speaker 3: you here.

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Speaker 1: We can show you your new office inside fantastic. Will

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Speaker 1: I get a Windows year ahead?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay, In all seriousness, happy birthday. Thank you for a

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Speaker 1: great season of preseason football. On matter Andrew Whitworth and

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Speaker 1: Mina Kimes and even a little bit of MJDE. I

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Speaker 1: thought Maurice was great.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you noticed, because once the final

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Speaker 3: preseason game is over, like it's it's over, let's move on.

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Speaker 3: But Less sneed came in for the beginning of the

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Speaker 3: third quarter. Was going to stay maybe two segments, maybe

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Speaker 3: two possessions, but we got into a role, onto a roll.

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Speaker 2: He was having fun.

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Speaker 3: And then I had this idea, because we thought we're

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Speaker 3: going to have Sean McVay down on the sideline coming

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Speaker 3: up next, Let's surprise Sean with Less in the booth

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Speaker 3: and have Less ask Sean a question he wouldn't know

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Speaker 3: that was coming. But then Shawn got delayed a couple

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Speaker 3: of series, and it turns out Less spent the entire

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Speaker 3: third quarter in the booth. And to answer your question,

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Speaker 3: MJD only worked three quarters and he spent the third

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Speaker 3: quarter eating those voodoo donuts and watching college.

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Speaker 1: I think that means seventy five percent compensation too. We

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Speaker 1: can talk to the records. I'm just saying awesome. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying I couldn't get past the geen jacket anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get past that. What was what the come on?

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Speaker 3: Somebody, somebody tweeted, where did the I'm sorry, where did

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Speaker 3: mj D go?

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Speaker 2: Did he go to the gap went in Texas? Right?

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Speaker 1: Can shop off the rack? I love it, Andrew. I

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Speaker 1: know you've been here earlier this week to Marco. First

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Speaker 4: First time here. Yes, I'm stoked. This is awesome. You

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Speaker 4: can get right here. I saw the weight room, I

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Speaker 4: see the field, the office is this is this is

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Speaker 4: what it should be right here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I need you to to put your creative genius

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Speaker 1: behind a challenge. Doesn't have to be right now, not

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Speaker 1: trying to put you on the spot. Do we need

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Speaker 1: a name for this, for this facility? Like you know

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have this Starry and I imagine there's going

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Speaker 1: to be a sponsored name at some point. But in

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Speaker 1: the meantime, let's see what we can. How about this,

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Speaker 1: try this on for Secon. What I miss ad No,

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Speaker 1: the Kurt Warner Center, Woodland Hills Corner Center. There's also

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Speaker 1: like an ingle Woodland ty In that kind of brings

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Speaker 1: the whole Hurt ecosystem together. Those are both the trochy

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Speaker 1: All right, should we get to business.

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Speaker 2: Let's get it do it?

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Speaker 1: Since we're all here for Andrew's birthday, we might as

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Speaker 1: well do a real show. Let's kick it off with

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Speaker 1: Sean mcvay's comments about the fifty three man roster yesterday,

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the defense, Ernest Jones the Titans.

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Speaker 5: I have a ton of respect for Ernest, and I'm

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Speaker 5: but you know, every decision that we make, and I

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Speaker 2: With that, all right.

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Speaker 1: So the day after you had a chance to sleep

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Speaker 4: I'm a little bit better than I was yesterday. Yesterday

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Speaker 4: kind of hot. You get upset, I mean, but this

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Speaker 4: is football. It happens the same basketball, the same baseball,

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Speaker 4: But when you think about it, and I agree with

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Speaker 4: everything Sean said, it is best for the team. And

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Speaker 4: here's what I don't know. Maybe you guys know who

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Speaker 4: introduced trade first, because once that comes up, there is

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Speaker 4: no going back. Once you say you want to break up,

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Speaker 4: there is no going back. So you're all in. You're

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Speaker 4: trying to climb Mount Everest. When you start talking about

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Speaker 4: me first, you put yourself in front of the football team,

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Speaker 4: and that could fester if you get upset with it.

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Speaker 4: So the best thing for everybody is to move on.

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Speaker 4: Now you have to worry about what comes behind him.

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Speaker 4: He is a leader. I missed him. I'm going to

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Speaker 4: miss him. Everybody's gonna miss him. You cannot replace his leadership.

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Speaker 4: But like I said, this is professional football. Guys leave

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Speaker 4: The leadership thing, for me is the biggest piece. To

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Speaker 4: answer your question about who wanted what first, Sean made

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Speaker 4: Ernest tweeted, I didn't ask for a trade. I think

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Speaker 4: that tweet got taken down and Sean said, he's right,

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Speaker 4: he didn't ask for a trade. But less Need made

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Speaker 3: to Earnest. Obviously he's fighting through a knee that those

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Speaker 3: you push back where they actually better a lot better. Look,

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Speaker 3: I'm not breaking down the film with him.

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Speaker 2: Or without him.

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Speaker 3: Omar snow, No, were they better than what Ernest Jones

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Speaker 3: did in the joint practices?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, because Ernest Jones wasn't out there for the three

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Speaker 3: Nobody can argue that Elias Snil probably should be on

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Speaker 3: eventual seven team man practice squad, either way, and when

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Speaker 3: you're not going to resign the guy. If you think

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Speaker 2: Now, could you have.

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Speaker 3: Kept Ernest Jones for three million? I think that's the

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Speaker 3: conversation you have to have. And I think the other

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Speaker 4: Generally speaking? I think their ultra important, especially for guys

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Speaker 4: like him. I mean, he's a downhill backer. He's supposed

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Speaker 2: What do you have? Four and a half sacks.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he became the Bobby Wagner, the new style of

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Speaker 4: better without him yet, but you can be. And that's

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Speaker 4: the thing. We all go through contract negotiations in this job.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm worth this, they say no, Either suck

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Speaker 4: So I respect both sides. If you think you're worth

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Speaker 4: more than what they offered, stand on that. If you

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Speaker 4: think you can move on without him, then stand on that.

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Speaker 4: But I, like I said, I agree with Sean McVay

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Speaker 4: moving on, not lighting this fester is best for the

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Speaker 4: football team period. You may not see that now, but

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Speaker 1: You mentioned a name along the way there that I

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Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner had one of his best seasons as a Ram.

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Speaker 1: I think he was Pro Football Focus his highest graded

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Speaker 1: that was informative in terms of what was already happening

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Speaker 1: in terms of thinking about that position and how to

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Speaker 1: invest in it. If Matthew Stafford had had a career

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Speaker 1: see where I'm going with this that it's just, you know, Mama,

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Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to suggest by the way that

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that at all. I think tackle stats

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Speaker 3: was just curious, you, yeah, being the one football player

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Speaker 3: here in these three chairs, did you see on film

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Speaker 3: last year that Ernest Jones was playing any very high.

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Speaker 4: I think I told you this looking up PFF. I

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Speaker 4: bottom third? Okay, I could not believe it. But then

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Speaker 4: they value the passing stats a little bit more for

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Speaker 4: those guys picks Chess's defense. I mean, he's not that

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Speaker 4: You add in Braden Fisk, here's a guy that's going

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Speaker 4: Oh really, they were mad about what you got in return.

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Speaker 3: Great in the community. Ernest Jones is a good dude,

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Speaker 3: The green dot though likely I think, well two things.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's leaving the field this year. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think your every down safety is probably a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: On the other shockwave, and this was as much I

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Speaker 3: It's something that the three of us kind of caught

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Speaker 2: He's a very good player, obviously, but fantasy.

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Speaker 3: When the Kiren Williams news hit yesterday, I know you

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Speaker 3: It's not the first time that he will have returned

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got to stay together, stay healthy. But it's

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Speaker 4: Unlet's play offense depending on score and what happens in

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Speaker 1: It's perplexing probably in the in the scheme that we're

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of fair catches back there there

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Speaker 4: Fro Have you seen his picture on Wikipedia? He's got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unbelievable. And when you consider they drafted five as well.

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Speaker 1: There's a fifth rookie. I wasn't lit there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there are five drafted rookies and five undrafted rookies

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Speaker 3: on defense on defense, ten rookies. I mean that that

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Speaker 1: So kudos to college scouts, the position coaches who, as

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Speaker 1: Tyler Davis. Thanks you, okay, good cleanup ball. But then

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Speaker 1: So from those twenty four picks the last two years

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Speaker 1: I think I mean to turn this roster over, especially defensively,

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Speaker 4: Props to the evaluators, but also props to the coaches

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Speaker 4: Let's see the tight ends you're keeping, all three tight

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Speaker 4: offense offensive line. No, no surprises, Bowl Lummer. We knew

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Speaker 4: he was going to be that backup spot. No, no

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Speaker 4: big surprises outside of what we just talked about.

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Speaker 1: No, Logan Brush was the one for me. I know

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Speaker 1: the three of us have talked about it, but it's

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Speaker 1: a good reminder that twenty two year olds are not

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Speaker 1: necessarily ready made NFL offensive lineman, especially those drafted outside

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Speaker 1: the top one hundred. I don't care how much Big

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Speaker 1: ten football you.

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Speaker 3: Play, and asked immediately to make a position change and

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Speaker 3: then go back and then that way.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: I actually kind of regret this. We had circled Mina

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Speaker 3: and MJD and I had circled Logan Bruss, even though

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Speaker 3: he wasn't going to be playing in that third game

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Speaker 3: in Houston, to give him his flowers, to tell that

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Speaker 3: story about, Hey, good for him, right, he's gone through

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Speaker 3: a lot, the injury, the doubts, people thinking that this

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Speaker 3: was a pick that simply already rip it up.

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Speaker 1: It was, hey, we don't have the numbers here as

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Speaker 1: you're making this team, It's like, no, we've invested heavily,

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Speaker 1: yes in the guard position, and you had your best

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Speaker 1: offseason today.

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Speaker 3: Logan Bruss is not a guy that made the team

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Speaker 3: simply because he was a third round pick and they

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Speaker 3: felt the need to save face and.

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Speaker 2: Keep him a round.

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Speaker 3: He came back this camp and he won that job,

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Speaker 3: and good for him the story we wanted to tell.

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Speaker 1: I also wanted to shout out the safeties because I

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Speaker 1: kind of made a note something I kept a receipt

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Speaker 1: from this offseason that was Pro Football Focus ranking the

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Speaker 1: Rams safety group thirty two out of thirty two going

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Speaker 1: into training camp. And I understand partially why because they

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Speaker 1: rightly categorize Q as a slot corner and not part

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Speaker 1: of that safety group. But they weren't immensely high on Curl,

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Speaker 1: who's drawn rave reviews.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's one of the most exciting position

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Speaker 1: groups on the roster all of a sudden because of

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Speaker 1: the way guys played during the off season program, because

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Speaker 1: of the up and coming prospects. Like I think it's

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Speaker 1: gone from a perceived weakness to a strength and correct

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Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. It's going to be a fascinating

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Speaker 1: storyline because of what Chris Shula wants to do. Yes

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Speaker 1: with those safeties this year. Everyone wants to focus on

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Speaker 1: the corners. He's going to use safeties in the slot.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the star position clearly here, but this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be the backbone of that back line.

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Speaker 4: Was it West Virginia that used to use that three

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Speaker 4: to three five? Sure, it's a bunch of safety. We'll

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Speaker 4: go a bunch of small guys that would just run

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Speaker 4: and attack the quarterback from all angles. I see that

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Speaker 4: with this safety group. Depending on who you play, it's

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Speaker 4: just more speed on the field and guys that you

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Speaker 4: can also load up in the box and stuff San

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Speaker 4: Francisco if you have to at least try.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you came up a little short in depth

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Speaker 1: in terms of the corner position, You're right, Andrew that

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Speaker 1: to have a Russ use to Quinton Lake who can

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Speaker 1: give you that position flexibility to get it done With

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Speaker 1: the overarching term defensive back. Then maybe that gives you

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Speaker 1: time for Darius Williams to settle back in. Maybe Trey

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Speaker 1: White gets right. I can't when you have something there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what he looks like at

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Speaker 1: full speed. I can't wait to see what he looks.

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Speaker 3: Like fingers cross because he's such a good dude and

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Speaker 3: he's overcome so much, really really respect that guy. I

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Speaker 3: think he could be the under the radar defensive signing

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Speaker 3: of the offseason here. It's not getting enough attention nationally. Look,

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Speaker 3: he's a guy coming off a major injury. Again, a

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Speaker 3: major injury, so he's got to go out there and proove.

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Speaker 3: But look, that could be a steal.

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Speaker 1: A reminder that this is not a finished product, that

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes, the back of the roster churn is ongoing.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned to most of these channels for updates on

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Speaker 1: the practice squad, which I think has a chance to

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Speaker 1: be really impactful here in twenty twenty four, and then

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Speaker 1: the more complete fifty three man roster. As we turn

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Speaker 1: our attention to game week the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to go back there. You excited. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was crazy. That was a heck of an atmosphere

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Speaker 4: and you got to go back there again. That's fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm just reminded that it wasn't just Matthew Stafford who

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Speaker 1: was bued, but also the head coach Sean McVay, Yes,

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Speaker 1: who took notice of that.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome, and who every thought, yeah, come on, that's

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Speaker 4: the environment you want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just made my the hair I'm a back of

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Speaker 1: my neck stand up then. And it was louder than

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Speaker 1: New Orleans, which I thought would be the loudest football

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Speaker 1: game I ever called in that NAT Championship game.

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Speaker 2: So it was all on.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't there for Detroit. It was louder than twenty

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Speaker 3: eighteen in New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: It was ridiculous, really, Yes, super loud.

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Speaker 3: Because they had the noisemakers in New Orleans, and I'm

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Speaker 3: convinced they were pumping that act through the speaker's.

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Speaker 4: Shirt playoff game in Detroit and how long. And it

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Speaker 4: was a night generation so they've been all day.

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Speaker 2: Get it.

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Speaker 4: It was loud. Yeah, they didn't feel a thing. They

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Speaker 4: were feeling no pain. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, keep me posted on names for Woodland Hills.

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Speaker 2: Will you We'll do yes. In the meantime.

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Speaker 1: And the horn, I mean this is between the horn,

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Speaker 1: between the horns, right placeholder. We'll see if we can

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Speaker 1: come over the top of that.

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Speaker 2: I like it. You don't like it?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Not.

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Speaker 1: It's better than the Kurt Warner Center. No offense to

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Speaker 1: your former.

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Speaker 2: Why they always attacking my dude? Attack? I got your guy.

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Speaker 1: Go to see Tomrco. Happy birthday, Andrew. We're back next

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Speaker 1: week to preview RAMS going to Detroit week one against

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Speaker 1: the Lines. In the meantime, a couple of practice here

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Speaker 1: to get ready for that game, and then a long

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Speaker 1: holiday weekend for DeMarco Farr.

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Speaker 2: I'm JB long. How old are you? You don't want

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Speaker 2: to say Andrew's Wikipedia page.

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Speaker 1: Next step on the program that's always this Between the Horns,

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Speaker 1: presented by your Southern California to you to deal