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Speaker 1: What's up It Sauce on the side, episode thirty Huh,

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Speaker 1: I don't really know.

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Speaker 2: Thirty seven?

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Speaker 1: Are you sure thirty seven was last week?

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Speaker 2: Nope? Last week was thirty six according to a listener

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Speaker 2: who DMed me.

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Speaker 1: Why not just pull up the thing, Because, first of all,

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Speaker 1: thank you, whichever listener that was that DMS, love you

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Speaker 1: for that. I appreciate when people give a shit about

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Speaker 1: stuff that we are trying to do. Okay, let's see,

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Speaker 1: last week's episode was episode You're right the fuck it

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Speaker 1: button was thirty six, so this is thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited about this one for a couple of

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Speaker 1: and she's doing something very different. She is a primary

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Speaker 1: care physician, and she's sick of the healthcare system and

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Speaker 1: the way things work, so she's branching out and doing

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Speaker 1: something completely different. And by the way, this interview was

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Speaker 1: recorded like a week or two ago, and she reached

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Speaker 1: out to me yesterday and told me she's going to

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Speaker 1: be doing something even more amazing and that it was

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Speaker 1: sign and that's it. I'll tell you what it is

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Speaker 1: at the end of this. Okay, are you ready? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's doctor Kummel Core. She's a doctor. Specifically, what kind

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Speaker 1: of doctor are you?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 3: Everyone, I am Board certified in family medicine and as

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Speaker 3: of last year, I'm also now Board certified in lifestyle medicine.

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Speaker 1: What is the name of your practice and where can

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Speaker 1: we find?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: So, Thattice is called k Core MD. That's kkau R Space, MD,

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Speaker 3: and I'm located in Coral Springs, Beautiful Coral Springs, Florida,

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Speaker 3: Broward County, and you can visit our website kkau r

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Speaker 3: directly if you just call the office.

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Speaker 1: One day and ask for you specifically.

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Speaker 3: I'll probably be the one answering the phone.

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Speaker 1: But yes, what is lifestyle medicine?

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows a GP or a general practitioner or you know,

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Speaker 3: Very surprised, so I will probably take for granted that point. Then,

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Speaker 3: So internal medicine physicians are trained to treat adults eighteen

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Speaker 3: and over. Family medicine physicians are trained to treat from birth.

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Speaker 3: To forgive me for saying this grave, so we handle

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Speaker 3: the whole spectrum, or we're trained to handle the whole spectrum.

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Speaker 3: I hate saying it that way, but that.

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Speaker 1: People die, we know that, I know. We join goal

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Speaker 1: is to keep them on the planet as long as

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Speaker 3: And then lifestyle medicine. So over the last several years,

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Speaker 3: wanting natural remedies. They don't want to just go to

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Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. So lifestyle medicine is based on

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Speaker 3: six pillars, and we use those pillars and their evidence

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Speaker 3: they're really simple. Exercise, eat healthy, get enough sleep, avoid

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Speaker 3: And social connections. That's a huge one that a lot

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Speaker 1: Those are all the hardest things to get a hold of.

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Speaker 1: Every single thing that you said, sleep more. I would

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Speaker 1: lot of things that we all need to be doing.

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Speaker 1: We talk about all the time on the show, On

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Speaker 1: the Big Show, Actually, how loneliness is an epidemic. If

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely. And even though we're so connected in

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Speaker 1: So I started this out by saying, I'm fascinated by

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Speaker 3: No, you did you pretty much? You know, nailed it.

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Speaker 3: Long story short. I have been wanting to be a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's all I can remember. There was never

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Speaker 3: Years later, I'm practicing. I'm so excited, bright eyed, bushy tailed,

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Speaker 1: Which it could be bigger by that point, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not. So my patients will know. Because it's a

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Speaker 1: So stuff like that. How is it going so far?

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Speaker 3: The most horrible part of this whole process is I

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to see patients because that's what I

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Speaker 3: That adds to the Hey, this is what we're really

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm double board certified. I've worked at some

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Speaker 1: why I'm sure there is a question are you a

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Speaker 1: real doctor? And again your South Florida, So yeah, that

440
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Speaker 1: will happen. Is that difficult for you? All these people

441
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Speaker 1: who now are armed with their Google knowledge coming to

442
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Speaker 1: you and telling you you're not doing your job right,

443
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Speaker 1: or they come with preconceived notions of what needs to happen.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I look at it from a different perspective.

445
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Speaker 3: I love my patients to be educated about what they're

446
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Speaker 3: coming in for, so you know if and I've learned

447
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Speaker 3: from patients too, because no physician knows at all, there's

448
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 3: always something to learn, and everybody's case is individual, so

449
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,960
Speaker 3: what works for one person doesn't work for the other.

450
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Speaker 3: And then if it gets to a certain point where

451
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Speaker 3: they're like, well, I don't believe what you and your

452
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Speaker 3: twenty million years of training are saying. I believe what

453
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Speaker 3: you know so and so is saying on TikTok or

454
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Speaker 3: Instagram or you know, doesn't Yeah, And I say, well,

455
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Speaker 3: if that's how you feel. At the end of the day,

456
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Speaker 3: I'm here to guide you and educate you. And it's

457
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Speaker 3: your body. You do what makes you happy? You do

458
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Speaker 3: you boo, because that's what are we going to do.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask you a couple controversial questions. Sure, vaccines.

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Speaker 1: Do we agree with the vaccines?

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Speaker 3: Wish vaccines? Are we talking about? Now?

462
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Speaker 1: Are there vaccines you don't agree with? No, there aren't.

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Speaker 3: That being said, I'm a scientist at heart. I would

464
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Speaker 3: like a little bit more information as far as going

465
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Speaker 3: into well, not at this point in time, but in

466
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Speaker 3: the very very beginning, I would have liked more information

467
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Speaker 3: given to us about the COVID vaccines and exactly you know,

468
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Speaker 3: what went down, how it happened, how all of a

469
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Speaker 3: sudden we have the technology that we didn't have years before,

470
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Speaker 3: or access to it, blah blah blah, all those things.

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Speaker 3: But fast forward to now, I think we're in a

472
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Speaker 3: much better place. So I am much more comfortable in

473
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Speaker 3: my gut.

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Speaker 1: Anytime somebody is sick in the comment section. I say

475
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Speaker 1: this because it happens to me personally. It is I

476
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Speaker 1: bet you got the vaccine. I bet they got the vaccine.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to try to separate the doctor from the

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Speaker 3: person here.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to if you don't want to, but okay.

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Speaker 3: It's very hard to do, so I'm just going to

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Speaker 3: go with it. The vaccine, the virus itself, it's very,

483
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Speaker 3: very inflammatory. That's one aspect of it. The other aspect

484
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Speaker 3: of it, we as a society and as a human

485
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Speaker 3: race are getting less and less healthy because we have

486
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Speaker 3: access to not good food. We're not exercising, we're not sleeping.

487
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Speaker 1: Well, you're looking right at me.

488
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Speaker 3: We're stressed all as fuck. You're looking right at So

489
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Speaker 3: at baseline we are unhealthy. So that vaccine's you know,

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Speaker 3: whatever inflammatory responses that we're promoted. And then you have

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Speaker 3: a baseline unhealthy person. That's a bad mixture. So if

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Speaker 3: you are, say a twenty year old that has no

493
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Speaker 3: problems and is completely healthy, and you're like, I don't

494
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Speaker 3: want to get the vaccine because of X, Y and Z.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of me.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't twenty, I was in my thirties, but I

497
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Speaker 3: was completely healthy. I didn't get the vaccine. I got

498
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Speaker 3: sick and I had a shit year recovering from COVID.

499
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Speaker 3: That was not fun. So when I got better and

500
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Speaker 3: I could, I went ahead and I got the vaccine.

501
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Speaker 3: If you're in your sixties and you have asthma, or

502
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Speaker 3: you're diabetic, or those are no brainers, you should be

503
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Speaker 3: getting the vaccine or I shouldn't say should again not

504
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Speaker 3: try to impose anything, but we highly recommend that you

505
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Speaker 3: get the vaccine because getting COVID can be very detrimental

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Speaker 3: for you.

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Speaker 1: I just so you know, I believe most people want

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Speaker 1: their doctors to tell them what they should do. I

509
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Speaker 1: don't think that you're saying anything incorrectly from a doctor's

510
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Speaker 1: perspective saying you should do this. It's your professional opinion.

511
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Speaker 1: You went to school. I didn't go to school, So

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Speaker 1: I'm coming to you for that advice. If people have

513
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Speaker 1: a problem with that, it's a little weird, but I

514
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Speaker 1: know we live in a weird time. One of the

515
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Speaker 1: things that I am in trusted in and I clearly

516
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Speaker 1: I'm a lay person asking this question. There's a lot

517
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Speaker 1: of stuff that's happening clearly post COVID. It could be

518
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Speaker 1: post vaccines. It could also be COVID. I got the vaccine,

519
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Speaker 1: and I got COVID twice, And did I GAD twice

520
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Speaker 1: or three to twice the third time is debatable. I

521
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Speaker 1: kept testing negative, but in my head, I was like,

522
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Speaker 1: this is just like the last few times I got

523
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Speaker 1: COVID with that vaccine. Knock on wood, it was so mild.

524
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Speaker 1: I thought I had allergies both times. That's what I

525
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Speaker 1: thought it was both times. Still, if something were to

526
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Speaker 1: happen to me, because I did get really sick like

527
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Speaker 1: a year ago, I don't attribute that to the vaccine.

528
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Speaker 1: I don't attribute that to COVID. There are a lot

529
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Speaker 1: of things that people are saying happened. I believe my doctors.

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Speaker 1: I want to trust them. There was a team from

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Speaker 1: a great hospital, Hackensack, we love you. Things could happen

532
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Speaker 1: just because you had COVID as well. Right, it's not

533
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Speaker 1: necessarily just a vaccine that did this. It could be

534
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Speaker 1: effects that we're seeing from actually having gotten COVID, maybe

535
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Speaker 1: from not having gotten that vaccine and having a bad

536
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Speaker 1: case of it.

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Speaker 3: Yep, there's a lot to be said because there's so

538
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Speaker 3: many variables. There are so many variables that we just

539
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Speaker 3: are unaware of. That's the big thing, right, You fear

540
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Speaker 3: what you don't know, and there's a lot that we

541
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Speaker 3: don't know. There are people walking around that got the

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Speaker 3: vaccine I'm sorry, got the virus, got the actual infection,

543
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Speaker 3: but didn't show any overt symptoms, so they weren't.

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Speaker 1: Y Yeah, we're convinced one of them works here and

545
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Speaker 1: he's like patient zero for everything. Diamond am I right, And.

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Speaker 3: It's very very possible. Now, just because that individual didn't

547
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Speaker 3: show any symptoms doesn't mean there wasn't shit going on

548
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: in the body, right, doesn't mean you know, there were

549
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: changes happening, there was inflammation happening, so that the next

550
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Speaker 3: time the body was exposed to either the virus or

551
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Speaker 3: to the vaccine or whatever, that that wasn't enhanced. It

552
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Speaker 3: is not one hundred percent valid to say the statement, oh,

553
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Speaker 3: this was caused by the vaccine, or this was caused

554
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Speaker 3: by the virus itself, the infection.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what. We don't know exactly. There's a

556
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Speaker 1: lot that we still don't know so much. Every day

557
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Speaker 1: there's stuff that you don't know because I think that

558
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Speaker 1: a big part of this is we live in a

559
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Speaker 1: society where you and just again google anything and get

560
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Speaker 1: an answer to it. So when something happens and there

561
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: isn't an answer, people are outraged and they're livid and

562
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: they want to call everybody else stupid for not having

563
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Speaker 1: an answer, while those people are actively working on getting it.

564
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Speaker 1: Things change. Information changes. Just because something changed from day

565
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Speaker 1: one today three hundred and sixty five doesn't mean you

566
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Speaker 1: were lied to. No, it means that's the information we

567
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Speaker 1: had at the time. Now this is the information.

568
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Speaker 3: That is Can we like underline bold and highlight that

569
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Speaker 3: statement of yours because that is so so correct. People

570
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Speaker 3: were giving us so much shit for well, yesterday you

571
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Speaker 3: said this, and now you're saying this, and it's like, no,

572
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Speaker 3: we're not flip flopping an opinion. This is based on

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Speaker 3: the medical data that we have to go off of.

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Speaker 3: Medicine changes every five to seven major guidelines I should

575
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Speaker 3: say change every five to seven years, depending on what

576
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Speaker 3: the preceding research shows. So that happens for blood pressure,

577
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 3: that happens for diabetes. I mean heck, that happens for

578
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Speaker 3: like how we treat skin rash. Like, some things just

579
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Speaker 3: change because we come to see that. You know, there's

580
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Speaker 3: more data that we can analyze and we get different

581
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Speaker 3: set of results. But when it came to COVID, I

582
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 3: think it was just enhanced because it was a pandemic.

583
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Speaker 3: People were nutty, rightfully, so sometimes.

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Speaker 1: It immediately became political.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody was scared. I mean, I think the worst

586
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Speaker 3: thing that happened was the whole science was put on

587
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Speaker 3: the back burner and politics was full. And I'm like, wait,

588
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Speaker 3: what the hell we're scientists, Why the fuck what? Yeah,

589
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 3: none of us understood what was going on. None of

590
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Speaker 3: us physicians, i should say, ethical sound practice physicians understood

591
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Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on.

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Speaker 1: It was chaos. Give people some very easy, doable advice

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Speaker 1: on how you can fix your health or start to

594
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Speaker 1: fix your health right now.

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Speaker 3: This is all going to be easier said than done.

596
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Speaker 3: It's six yes, it is. It's a work in progress. Heck,

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00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 3: I'm still working on it. Eat healthier, Try to avoid

598
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Speaker 3: processed foods. It's cheesy, but if Mother Earth didn't make it,

599
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Speaker 3: try not to eat it. We live in a society

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Speaker 3: that that is very difficult to do. And I understand,

601
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Speaker 3: and I understand. You know, apples and fruits and vegetables

602
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: are expensive, and you know there's so many variables fighting

603
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 3: against you to eat healthy. Just take it slow and

604
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: try to avoid those processed foods and just eat a

605
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: little bit better, be more mindful, move it, move your butt. Exercise.

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Speaker 3: If you don't exercise, there's so much that you're predisposing

607
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Speaker 3: your body too. There's so many health risks. I'm not

608
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Speaker 3: going to get into them, obviously, but it's bad stuff.

609
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: At least thirty minutes a day, cut off everything, cut

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Speaker 3: off technologies, go for a walk. It doesn't have to

611
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Speaker 3: be you know, I'm in the gym and I'm like

612
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Speaker 3: weightlifting and I'm bench pressing two hundred pounds. Nope, don't

613
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Speaker 3: go from zero to one hundred. Just even starting to

614
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Speaker 3: walk a little bit every day. If you're not doing anything.

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Speaker 3: To begin with, sleep, yeah, yeah, yeah, when you're when

616
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Speaker 3: you're sleeping, you may think, hey, i'm sleeping, everything's off. No,

617
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 3: there's so much stuff going on in your body. Things

618
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: are firing at all cylinders to try to get you healthy,

619
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Speaker 3: to try to restore your mechanisms and improve your energy

620
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Speaker 3: and all this shit for the next day. So please, please,

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Speaker 3: please try to get at least seven hours of sleep nightly.

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Speaker 1: The seven hours of sleep doesn't have to be all

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Speaker 1: at once. Can I split it up? No, I can't

624
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: split it up. No, I've read that I could.

625
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 3: No.

626
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: Okay, all time, yes, yes, lah, yeah, okay, yeah.

627
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: And this isn't doctor cor saying that this is the

628
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: American Academy of Sleep and all those other big ways. Okay,

629
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Speaker 3: years of research ship shown anyways, at least seven hours okay,

630
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Speaker 3: Make meaningful relationships, you know, connect with people.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the hardest one. That is that you

632
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: say it is.

633
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: It probably is. But you know, even if you have

634
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: just that one person could be a family member, spouse,

635
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: a friend, just somebody to vent to, to talk to,

636
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: to laugh with. You know, it's very important. Please don't

637
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 3: do drugs. Please don't smoke. Please don't put anything in

638
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: your body.

639
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: You're counting marijuana though it's legal now as a drug. Yes, okay,

640
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: as you should, No, you should. I'm asking these questions

641
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Speaker 1: for a reason. By the way, she's probably laughing because

642
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: when she was doing a really good job in our

643
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: science classes, I was skipping with Kyle to go smoke.

644
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: So yes, please, And you know, let me say that

645
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: that also includes alcohol. A lot of people dismiss alcohol

646
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: as a drug. They think, oh, she's talking about you know, cocaine,

647
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: marijuana and all those all those things. No, talking about

648
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: alcohol too. And I know studies in the past had

649
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: shown that six ounces of red wine for women and

650
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: eight ounces of red wine for men at night actually

651
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: promote cardiovascular health.

652
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Speaker 1: And blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: No, at the end of the day, alcohol is alcohol.

654
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Speaker 3: It is toxic to your body. It's excess sugar. Let's

655
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Speaker 3: minimize that. Oh stress, Oh my goodness.

656
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Speaker 1: That might be the hardest one. Actually stress.

657
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Speaker 3: We're all under some kind of stress, right, But find

658
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Speaker 3: at least fifteen to thirty minutes in your day where

659
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Speaker 3: you just shut down. Meditation is really good. But I

660
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Speaker 3: know we can't all do it. Heck, I can't do it.

661
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Speaker 3: I tried like three times and failed miserably. Do whatever

662
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Speaker 3: relaxes you that doesn't involve alcohol.

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Speaker 1: Okay, last question for you. Of those six pillars, which

664
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Speaker 1: one do you struggle with the most?

665
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Speaker 3: Food?

666
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Speaker 1: Same food? Actually all six? What am I talking about?

667
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Speaker 3: I'm not a big sweets person, I'd rather have like

668
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Speaker 3: a twenty ounce rabbi over a cheesecake, which they're both

669
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Speaker 3: bad in their own way, but I'm sugar is very addictive.

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Speaker 3: Foods are addictive, So yeah, I understand.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you want to add before

672
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Speaker 1: we get out of here.

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Speaker 3: I just want people to know that there is a

674
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Speaker 3: better way to get your primary care. I know insurances

675
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Speaker 3: are important for a lot of things. I don't want

676
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Speaker 3: to completely bad mouth them, because when you're in the hospital,

677
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Speaker 3: I mean one hundred to two hundred thousand dollars bills,

678
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Speaker 3: who's going to put that bill right? It's going to

679
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Speaker 3: be the insurance company. But for your regular day to

680
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: day primary care, you don't need to go to your

681
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Speaker 3: insurance based physicians. They're great physicians, but they're bound by

682
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Speaker 3: the rules and restrictions of the insurance companies that they

683
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Speaker 3: work for. And I say that they work for them

684
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Speaker 3: because as physicians, you contract with an insurance company and

685
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Speaker 3: that insurance company tells you what you need to do

686
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Speaker 3: in order to get reimbursed. So that's essentially an employer.

687
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Speaker 3: And yes, we are board certified physicians who are allowed

688
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Speaker 3: to practice medicine, and we are credible.

689
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Speaker 1: Board certified physicians very important. Yes, when finding a doctor.

690
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Speaker 3: I know it's daunting to ask people to just give

691
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Speaker 3: me their credit card and let's sign you up. So

692
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Speaker 3: what we offer patients to do is because we want

693
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Speaker 3: people to be comfortable. Your primary care position somebody that

694
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Speaker 3: you should have a personable relationship with that you feel

695
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Speaker 3: comfortable sitting down and talking about all your health issues with. Right,

696
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Speaker 3: So we invite people to come in for a meet

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Speaker 3: and greet. It's completely complimentary, free, and they come into

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Speaker 3: the office, they tour the office so they see, oh,

699
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Speaker 3: I'm in here. I actually feel like a VIPM the

700
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Speaker 3: only person. Everything I have has a little bit of

701
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Speaker 3: a finer touch to you. You just feel special, you know.

702
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Speaker 3: And then you come and you talk to me and

703
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Speaker 3: you tell me what is it that you expect from

704
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Speaker 3: your primary care physician and can I fulfill those expectations?

705
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Speaker 3: And then vice versa. I ask you, hey, as a patient,

706
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Speaker 3: what is it that you're looking for? And am I

707
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Speaker 3: comfortable providing that to you? And it's kind of like

708
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Speaker 3: a first date with your doctor. And if you like

709
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Speaker 3: what you hear, see and you know, learn about, then

710
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Speaker 3: we sign you up. And if not. Then we guide

711
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Speaker 3: you to somewhere that you would be more comfortable.

712
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Speaker 1: You're probably going to have a lot of men being

713
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Speaker 1: like someone say a first date with a doctor, Sign

714
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Speaker 1: me up, she's married. Now they know that if they

715
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Speaker 1: didn't before. Perfect. All right, one more time, drop your

716
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Speaker 1: location and how they can get a hold of you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So it is k core MD in Coral Springs, Florida,

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Speaker 3: and our phone numbers ninety five four nine four seven

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Speaker 3: zero three two seven. The website is www dot kka

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Speaker 3: U r MD dot com.

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Speaker 1: One piece of advice for you. Nobody remembers phone numbers

723
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Speaker 1: or writes some down anymore. That's true. So when you

724
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Speaker 1: are telling people, we laugh about this all the time.

725
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: When they give us copy and they're like call blah

726
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Speaker 1: blah blah. I'm like, these people are in their car,

727
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Speaker 1: They're not out their phone writing that down.

728
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Speaker 3: I never thought about that.

729
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Speaker 1: They are.

730
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

731
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Speaker 1: Websites, website, website, hit it. If you have an Instagram,

732
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Speaker 1: hit it the instagram. Yes you do. You want to

733
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Speaker 1: see her office? It looks like a spa.

734
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Speaker 3: Where can they find it at doctor kka U r

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Speaker 3: m D.

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Speaker 1: There you go, yep. I think you'll get more traffic

737
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Speaker 1: that way. Hey, yay, thank you so much for coming.

738
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Speaker 1: Thank you all the way to New York just to

739
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Speaker 1: do this podcast well and have a good time.

740
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Speaker 3: I was very, very excited to come, not only to

741
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Speaker 3: do the podcast, but to kind of see you living

742
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Speaker 3: your dream.

743
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Speaker 1: I mean I was talking out my dream. Well no,

744
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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding it totally is. I love it. This

745
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Speaker 1: is amazing. No, it's great.

746
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Speaker 3: I mean who would have thought, right, Yeah, And I'm

747
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: so glad because we don't come from a culture that

748
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Speaker 3: really promotes people doing things outside of the box. So

749
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Speaker 3: I am so happy for you.

750
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Speaker 1: Well, please know from outside of the box. I am

751
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: clapping for you inside of the box. And I think

752
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: what you're doing is awesome. I'm really really proud of you.

753
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Speaker 1: Thank you all right, thank you. Okay. So the thing

754
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Speaker 1: that she wants to do now, I don't even know

755
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Speaker 1: if I should say, actually, you know what, I'm not

756
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: gonna say it because until she locks it in, I

757
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: don't want to tip her hat and then maybe somebody

758
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: else slides in and does it. But trust me, when

759
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Speaker 1: she does it, I will tell everyone because it would

760
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: be awesome and it would impact me personally, So I

761
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Speaker 1: would love that. Yeah. Anyway, Oh, that's exciting. I'm excited

762
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Speaker 1: for it. I love everything that has to do with

763
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Speaker 1: health care and helping people to better handle their own

764
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Speaker 1: health care and medical issues. And we know how fucked

765
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Speaker 1: this country is when it comes to healthcare, and a

766
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Speaker 1: lot of people are like you say that you you

767
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Speaker 1: want socialized healthcare like other countries. No, I just want

768
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Speaker 1: our country to not suck at it. Yep, hello, hello,

769
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Speaker 1: it's probably not that difficult. It used to not suck

770
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Speaker 1: at it. It has started to suck at it. But

771
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Speaker 1: is that getting political or people gonna bitch about that?

772
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Speaker 2: I don't know who cares you? Right, Yolo?

773
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Speaker 1: It's political season, baby, Oh, I'm so excited. It's my

774
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Speaker 1: favorite happening, favorite, is it? Yes? Why the fall? Okay,

775
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Speaker 1: so the fall or political.

776
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Speaker 2: Political season is a part of it. So it's number

777
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Speaker 2: one my birthday. But you have football starting. Baseball is

778
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Speaker 2: getting serious. Basketball will be here by the end of October,

779
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Speaker 2: depending on the season, right, I think they do September.

780
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: Now I get confused. Uh, politicians are losing it right now,

781
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Speaker 2: and so it's the rest of the country.

782
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Speaker 1: You're just alongside with them.

783
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Speaker 2: And then you just know that you're going to be

784
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Speaker 2: able to hang out with family soon. So it just

785
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Speaker 2: it feels good and the weather feels good. It's just

786
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Speaker 2: my favorite time of the year.

787
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Speaker 1: Is good time of the year. I appreciate it too.

788
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Speaker 1: What I hate, which I've said this on the air,

789
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Speaker 1: is everybody trying to rush to the next thing. Like

790
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: we're in summer and people are like counting down the fall.

791
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Speaker 1: Can you just fucking enjoy summer? Can you just enjoy

792
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Speaker 1: the summer because fall is gonna get here at some

793
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: point and then you can enjoy the fall. Now you

794
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: got Danielle counting down to Thanksgiving and Christmas. I'm like,

795
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: damn it, woman, that's insane. We need to be present,

796
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Speaker 1: be in the here, be here now. It's no be

797
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Speaker 1: in the now, be here now, be in the here.

798
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Speaker 2: What is that.

799
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Speaker 1: I really tried for something I failed? Oh my god,

800
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Speaker 1: how was your weekend?

801
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Speaker 2: It was gonna spend time with my aunt. People give

802
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: me crap. They say I'm supposed to say aunt, and.

803
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Speaker 1: I say aunts and auntie.

804
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, a un t and aunt is something that you

805
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Speaker 2: step on right well, or should it be you don't

806
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Speaker 2: step on.

807
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Speaker 1: It, but hunt hunt, because like see unt is oh oh,

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Speaker 1: I never thought, okay, whatever, I like Aunt. I've always

809
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Speaker 1: called people auntie and aunt. I think I may be

810
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Speaker 1: a very cultural thing, maybe, right, Aunt Susan I always

811
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Speaker 1: say Susan Auntie.

812
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Speaker 2: Like anyway, Okay, it was great. And then I went

813
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Speaker 2: to church with my grandfather yesterday. It was interesting, but

814
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Speaker 2: it was cool.

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Speaker 1: An episcopal church, yes, or as Scary would say, episcopical, Yes,

816
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Speaker 1: it was.

817
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Speaker 2: It was intense.

818
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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know the differences. So what was intense

819
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Speaker 1: about it?

820
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Speaker 2: The main thing is that number one, you have to

821
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Speaker 2: stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down, stand up,

822
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Speaker 2: sit down.

823
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Speaker 1: I was like okay.

824
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Speaker 2: But then when they're reading the Word of God, they

825
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Speaker 2: kind of like sing it. So they're like, i'll have

826
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Speaker 2: Father art in heaven, hallow be thy name. And I'm like,

827
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Speaker 2: hold on now, babes, what if you don't know the song? No,

828
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Speaker 2: it's the scripture, so you're reading, but what if you

829
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Speaker 2: don't know the notes? Oh? I think they just like

830
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Speaker 2: it's just like a hum. And I was like, okay, okay,

831
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Speaker 2: what's going on here? And I kept looking at my dad.

832
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Speaker 2: I'm like, you were raised in this church. This is

833
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Speaker 2: probably why you don't come, do you?

834
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Speaker 1: Go to church regular.

835
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Speaker 2: No, okay, I mean like I was raised in like

836
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Speaker 2: I like to say, the church atmosphere, because I went

837
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Speaker 2: to like Christian schools growing up, and we had to

838
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Speaker 2: go to like church every morning. Yeah, and so like

839
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Speaker 2: we did like daily devotions and we did praise and

840
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Speaker 2: worship and it was fun. You know.

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Speaker 1: He was a private school your whole life.

842
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Speaker 2: Well, no, not for high school.

843
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I was about to be very I'm still

844
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Speaker 1: very surprised. Come on. I went to church a few

845
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Speaker 1: times with friends and it didn't really work out.

846
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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I went to like a Sunday school once. My sister

848
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Speaker 1: and I both went and she asked a question and

849
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Speaker 1: they asked us to leave, which I'm sure the church

850
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Speaker 1: has changed since then and they're a little more open minded.

851
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: They were really mad in her question. Valid question, by

852
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: the way, we were little well with a friend. Her

853
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: question was, so apparently Adam was made from the dust, right,

854
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: but then Eve was made from Adam's rib. And my

855
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Speaker 1: sister was like, I don't understand that, because if there

856
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Speaker 1: was so much other dirt and dust around, why wouldn't

857
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: they just ended it from the same because they're equal.

858
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Speaker 1: And we were asked to leave the class rude. By

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Speaker 1: the way, my sister had a point, should I be?

860
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Speaker 1: And she was a little kid thinking that way she

861
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Speaker 1: was little, she had to be like, six.

862
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Speaker 2: You're not the only ones. I have a friend who

863
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: was His parents were called to get him, like pick

864
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Speaker 2: him up from Sunday school because he asked I can't

865
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Speaker 2: remember the question, but he challenged the Sunday school teacher

866
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Speaker 2: and she got upset. Instead of like actually trying to

867
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Speaker 2: have a conversation or saying, hey, listen, I'm not sure

868
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Speaker 2: we're looking to it. I'll come back whatever, she got

869
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Speaker 2: upset and called his parents that's insane, and he had

870
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Speaker 2: to sit upstairs with the big kids.

871
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you anything, whether it's a relationship,

872
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: it's a religion, whatever, If it discourages questions, yeah, get

873
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: the fuck out of there, because that's crazy. You should

874
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: be able to ask questions and if there's an answer,

875
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: think about it. But to just be like, don't don't

876
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: you dare question that? That's crazy, that's fucking wild. Can't

877
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, escort it out of the fucking.

878
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: That though, Like there's so much more dirt, So I'm like,

879
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: why do you have to take his rib right, it's hilarious, nonsensible.

880
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: Also, don't get me started on black Jesus or brown

881
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: Jesus whatever. That caused a lot of controversy in my

882
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: life too.

883
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand that. But then I also grew

884
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: up in like like black churches and stuff, so like.

885
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: Did you guys have black Jesus? Of course, Oh, thank god,

886
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: are you kidding?

887
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: Okay, skin of bronze, hair of wool, Come on, you can't,

888
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 2: I mean whatever. I was just like arguing with people.

889
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: I know, I'm not gonna argue with you about it,

890
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: but like people who are listening.

891
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: One of the biggest arguments I got into with one

892
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: of my best friends in the whole world was about

893
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: that because he's black and his family obviously black, but

894
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: they have white Jesus in the house. And the way

895
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: that I was raised, it was like a no brainer

896
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: that Jesus was not white. Yeah, if you just look

897
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: at the region, if you look at the description, you know,

898
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: Bethlehem's and Palestine, it's a brown person. Yep, Like you said,

899
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: skin of bronze, hair of wool. So I just kind

900
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: of always thought it was that way, and my dad

901
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know, white people want to make

902
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: it white and that's okay, but whatever, Jesus was not white.

903
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: And I asked my friend, why do you guys have

904
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: white Jesus? And WHOA? To this day, he won't talk

905
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: to me about it. What Yeah, And I'm like, come on, man,

906
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: to this day, to this day, I don't talk about

907
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't want talk about it. Yeah, I want to

908
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: talk about it. I said, Okay, whatever works for you.

909
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to fight. I don't want to fight

910
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: you to death on this. I actually debating religion with

911
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: people is never a good good thing. People want to

912
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: have what they want to have, and that's fine. Man.

913
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: If I want to get in a fight with him today,

914
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: I still bring that up.

915
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: White Jesus is crazy? Like how and as a black person?

916
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay, cheers. I'll leave that right there. Okay.

917
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: If people want to come find you, Diamond, where will

918
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: they find you?

919
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: At?

920
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: Diamond?

921
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: Sincere on Instagram?

922
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: And I am at Baby Hot Sauce on Instagram and

923
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: O threads and Twitter. Actually actually no, on threads. Yeah,

924
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: I think I'm Baby Hot Sauce.

925
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: Huh.

926
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: I think I just got the name of my yeah

927
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: Instagram handle, right, Yeah, yeah, I don't think you can

928
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: change it. I don't really tweet a lot, or thread

929
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: a lot or excellent. I don't know what the fuck

930
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: you call it anymore either, I don't do those things anymore.

931
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: Okay until next week. Say bye bye yah