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Speaker 1: and this week we've got a real buffet for you guys.

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Speaker 1: this right. Wow, Okay, so I'm there was about to

425
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: take it. No, you didn't lose me at all, But

426
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: that was a lot to take in um, because I

427
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: absolutely understand what you're saying, like it's all like sort

428
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: of it's all food chain related obviously, But I think

429
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm missing the part about how fisheries biologists can help

430
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: this or what we can do with predator fish. When

431
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: you're dealing with situations in Florida where those algae blooms

432
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: are completely out of control because outside factors like how

433
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: do we not have them kill the predator fish in

434
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: the ecosystem they're affecting, They're still going to do that, right,

435
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: That's that's not This isn't a panacea or like a

436
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: fix all. What it's saying is that if we can

437
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: maintain high populations those predatory fish, that we can help

438
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: keep the grazers around that can feed on the algae.

439
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: It's not a one size fits all kind of solution.

440
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: We still have to deal with these massive nutrient influxes

441
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: that are happening, but it's one more tool that might

442
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: we might be able to put in the toolbox for management.

443
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: So it's not all on water quality engineers. The fisheries

444
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: managers might have a role to play that we might

445
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: be able to help this whole thing out. I'm not

446
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: trying to suggest, and none of the researchers have said, hey,

447
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: we got this figured out, But even a slight possible

448
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: wind in that direction, I'm calling that fantastic news, particularly

449
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: in this case when it says, hey, if we can

450
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: keep the populations of fish that you guys like, hi,

451
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: it might help knock back some of these algae blooms. No, no,

452
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: I get it. And it is really interesting because we

453
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: have a lot of us have heard about these blooms

454
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,239
Speaker 1: over the last few years, and a lot of it's

455
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: associated with Florida. Like you hear about it in Florida

456
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: so much, but it is happening in other places. In fact,

457
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: just last summer, um to local lakes that I've been

458
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: fishing since I was a kid, had some sort of

459
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: bloom that that all of a sudden calls signage all around.

460
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: It was like, don't swim in here, don't fish in here,

461
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: don't eat anything in here. This is really bad. That

462
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: has never happened here in my entire life. So I

463
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: do I do think this is important science now because

464
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: this is happening more in places at it didn't before,

465
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's all over the country, and it's

466
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: all over the world. It's not just in those estuaries

467
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: that like we hear about it a lot in Florida

468
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: and Louisiana and some places like that. But it's also

469
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 1: like you're saying, happened in freshwater lakes. More nutrients are

470
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 1: coming into those lakes. It's the same, the same situation.

471
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: You get big algae blooms, particularly blue green algae, which

472
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: produces those cyanobacteria neurotoxins, and then you can't swim there,

473
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: you can't eat the fish. It's bad for everything. So

474
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: the short version is that we can use we can

475
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: use pike and walleyes and predators as a tool to

476
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: fight the algae. Right, Yes, that's the gist. So I'm gonna,

477
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna use that to jump over it

478
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: to to my story, um, where high powered rifles are

479
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: used to fight something else. Yes, this is fantastic. This

480
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: is the one that I thought you were going to grab.

481
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: And uh so I was actually first alerted to this

482
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: story by listener Mike Gillen, and I thought at the

483
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: time it was just sort of a weird one off,

484
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: like something dredged up from somewhere, you know. Um, And

485
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: within a very short time this was blowing up on

486
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: several news outlets. But I will start with the version

487
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: that Mike sent, which was on Task and Purpose dot

488
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: com headline, we salute the badass coast these who opened

489
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: fire on a freaking shark that crashed his crew's swim

490
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: call headline of the century right there. It's a really

491
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: good headline, right Okay. So, um, this happened essentially in

492
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: the middle of the Pacific Ocean is and one quote

493
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: in one of the stories puts it a zillion miles

494
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: from land and um the story says, as a way

495
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: to but right zillion, you know it's whatever, as a

496
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: way to break up the daily monotony of life at sea.

497
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: The crew of the U. S. Coast Guard cutter Kimball

498
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: was recently rewarded with a swim call, meaning everyone kicks

499
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: off their flippy floppy's parenthesies or combat boots and leaps

500
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: into the wide open ocean. However, they had an unexpected

501
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: and entirely unwanted guest, an eight foot echo shark. Now,

502
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: other reports have it as either a mako or a

503
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: pelagic thresher, but to my eye looking at the photos,

504
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: that head is way too pointing to be a thresher.

505
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: So I'm going I'm going with mako. So the crew

506
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: of the Kimball is swimming, and I need to add

507
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: they also had an inflatable unicorn, which is great. Cheers guys,

508
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: You guys are so awesome in American badasses out there.

509
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: When someone on the bridge of the cutter said shark

510
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: over the radio, and UH Maritime Enforcement Specialist first Class

511
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: Samuel Cintron was the dude on the flight deck tasked

512
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: with shark overwatch during this swim and when the mako

513
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: appeared near the ship's rescue door, Cintron got locked on target.

514
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: So this Task and Purpose article quote it also quotes

515
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: the Facebook post from crew members on the boat, and

516
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: my favorite line is our animal lover chief who wants

517
00:27:53,720 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: to save every animal she finds, yelled shoot ite. As

518
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: the mako moved towards the swimmers still in the water,

519
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: Cintron fired off a quote well aimed burst right over

520
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: top of the shark. And he says the shark would

521
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: wave off with each burst because they were multiple bursts,

522
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: but kept coming back towards the shipmates. And um, you know,

523
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: several of these stories, including the Task and Purpose story,

524
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: made a point of pointing out that the shark was

525
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: not injured. Okay. And there's a quote in there from

526
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: a crew member that says, our goal was to keep

527
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: it away from ship mates mates, not harm it if possible. Um,

528
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: But like I said, he did shoot at it more

529
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: than once, and everyone got out of the water safely.

530
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: There was no injury. Even the inflatable unicorn lived to

531
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: tell the tale. But here's the thing, all right, I

532
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: watched the video of this because there is very good,

533
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: very clear video, Okay, from the flight deck. And I

534
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: gotta say, if Cintron was purposely trying to just scare

535
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: the shark away, he might be the greatest marksman ever,

536
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: because to my eye, he wasn't shooting near the shark

537
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: or next to the shark like. It looks like he

538
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: was going for center mass man like. And and this shark,

539
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: you gotta remember, it's right into the surface. You can

540
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: you can see it very clearly, and you also clearly

541
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: see it doesn't go belly up and there was no blood.

542
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: But if you watch how he placed those bursts, I

543
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: do not understand how that was not a dead shark.

544
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: They both looked dead onto me. And uh, you know,

545
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: to be clear, right, I'm all about shark conservation. I've

546
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: done some shark fish and it's been a long time,

547
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: but they've been hit hard, and I believe we should

548
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: leave the sharks alone. And many rules have changed. I mean,

549
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: even out here on the East Coast, you can still

550
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: kill a mako, but it's got to be pretty big.

551
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: They've changed the rules. They've made it harder. But anyway,

552
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: this crew, per the story, had been trapped on the

553
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: cutter for four weeks straight, and God bless him, again,

554
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: you guys are badasses, and this swim was the first

555
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: time they got off of this boat in four weeks,

556
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: So would it have been so terrible given that the

557
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 1: shark was posing the threat to end this story with?

558
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: And then the crew feasted on delicious grilled mako and

559
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: enjoyed Mako sandwiches for the next three days. You know,

560
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: instead of the standard chef ward he Ravioli's or whatever

561
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: you eat for a month on a Coastguard cutter, Like,

562
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: come on, we give him one. We could have given

563
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: our boys one shark would have been I would have

564
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: been fine with that end. Yeah, that would that would

565
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: not have made me sad, And I'm with you. I'm

566
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: pro pro sharks as as I think I talked about

567
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: in the last episode, like sharks generally don't want to

568
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: attack us. We don't need to attack the sharks. But

569
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: in a situation like this, you know, sharks sharks out

570
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: a line. Yeah, he was an hornery shark. He kept

571
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: coming I mean the video he keeps coming back. Um, Like, dude,

572
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: if if if he was shooting in such a way

573
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: that like he knew he was going to get that close.

574
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: But miss he's the man, right, I mean, let's just

575
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 1: call it that. He's the man and and you know,

576
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: a much better trained marksman than either of us, and

577
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: my hat goes off to him. Yeah. Uh, you know,

578
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: and I think this was pretty justified me. It It was

579
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: an absolute safety issue with a lot of people in

580
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: the water in the open ocean. Um. But like you know,

581
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: there's some offshore dudes in Louisiana, Texas do this stuff

582
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: every other Sunday, you know what I mean. Yeah, And

583
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: I can't I can't actually support that, but this, I

584
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: think this would be a case of justified shark aside. Um,

585
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna transition us to a much smaller

586
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: predator and one that didn't win the battle. Uh. And

587
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: I gotta say, this is very different from the stuff

588
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: I've been reporting on recently. But this is just a

589
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: cool story and it comes from your side of the country. Joe,

590
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: I'm sure you remember the somewhat awkwardly named tropical storm

591
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: you say us, Oh, dude, the I literally came over

592
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 1: my home. Yeah, we know each other. Well, yeah, yeah.

593
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: A lot of people out here, by the way, are

594
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: calling it Hurricane easy Es. That is fantastic. That was

595
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: not mentioned in the coverage, and I know, I know,

596
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: it knocked out a lot of power in a lot

597
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: of communities like over by you um. And one of

598
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: those communities that lost power was Barkhamstead, Connecticut. And that's

599
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: where our stories protagonist, Leslie Slater, just happens to live.

600
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: So Leslie and her family were having a tough day.

601
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: It was brutally hot. The power was out, so there's

602
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: no air conditioning. There's still a global pandemic going on,

603
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: so they have a lot of options on what they

604
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: could do. But Leslie and her family, they did not

605
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: wallow in their misfortune. Uh No, they did what all

606
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: of us should do in a situation like that. Leslie,

607
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: her husband and kids packed up their kayaks and fishing

608
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: gear and they headed out to the local river. All right,

609
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: So Leslie's her kayak, she's got her kids, she's got

610
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: her husband, she's got her light spinning rod, and she's

611
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: just fishing and floating and relaxing and making the best

612
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: of a tough situation. Now, according to the story she

613
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: told the Department of Energy and environ Mental Protection, she

614
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: was quote jigging a rooster tail for trout, which I

615
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: don't know that I've ever jigged tail, but I'm gonna

616
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: let that one go. When when she got bit and

617
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: no surprise, it didn't turn out to be some dinky,

618
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: little finless Toby Stock tank rainbow. After a very long

619
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: and apparently very exciting fight, Leslie brought in a forty

620
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: six in twenty nine pound pike. You know what I

621
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: did see that I did not? Yes, yes, months and fish.

622
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: You guys, this thing is a beast like it really is.

623
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: Do a little googling and you can find it for yourselves.

624
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: And somehow Leslie managed to bring this thing in on

625
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: like spinning tackle without breaking the rod, without breaking the line,

626
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: and then she wrestled it into this teeny little like

627
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: tippy kayak. This wasn't a fishing kayak at all. This

628
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: is not This is just like a regular kayak that

629
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: she didn't even have a skirt on. She wrestled this

630
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: thing into the kayak without capsizing. Somehow she didn't get

631
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: any of her digits bitten off, which I also don't understand.

632
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Then the whole family paddles overshore takes pictures with the fish,

633
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: which they exactly should have done. I mean, things amazing.

634
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: They tried to release it, but between the long fight

635
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: on the light tackle and the warm water, I mean,

636
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: that fish was just done. So their next mission was

637
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: to try and get it weighed at a certified scale

638
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: and see if it was a state record. But you

639
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: know that that also proved to be quite the challenge

640
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: because again you're in the middle of a total power

641
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: outage everywhere and and and all the COVID shutdowns. So

642
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: the first place they took it to was a local

643
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: Delhi as she like carries this giant fish in and

644
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: sets it on the local deli counter. But the fish

645
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: is too big for the scale. The ham scale, like

646
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: the lunch meat scale, can't possibly be certain. Mean, look,

647
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: you know what, in a in a tough situation, I

648
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: give him credit for that move, right, but like that scale,

649
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: but I mean least the exactly and and this is

650
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: my favorite image. They like slap it down to the

651
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: Delhi County. They put on the scale, and you know,

652
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: the head and the tail just fall down onto the counter. Right,

653
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: So that's not gonna work, and later described the reactions

654
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: from other Delhi customers as quote priceless and I can

655
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: only imagine like you're standing a line to get your

656
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: lunch meat and there's this giants a pike hanging off

657
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: either end of the scale. So anyway, finally they did

658
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: get the fish to a certified scale at the local

659
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: county store and it officially tied the state record pike.

660
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: And I gotta say, man, I love everything about this story.

661
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: It's just like a positive attitude pays dividends. And we've

662
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: said this before. If you're having a terrible day, just

663
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: take it from Leslie, go fishing better. It's just gonna say, man,

664
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: I have lived through. I got spared by easy s.

665
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: I didn't lose my power, but I've been there for

666
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: five days and no power or and like on day

667
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 1: four it's like, Okay, the family is somewhere else and

668
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm just manning this, you know, shut down home, you

669
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: go fishing. So she's right on the money, and um man,

670
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: this this news post, however, might and my follow up

671
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: might upset our friends in Connecticut because as a man

672
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: who loves pike I am. I am a pike junkie.

673
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: I am long overdue for some pike missions in Connecticut.

674
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: And there is some seriously good pike water in that

675
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 1: tiny state, clearly, and and now the world knows where

676
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: one of them is so well. I mean, I think

677
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna end up either in in her family's

678
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: belly or on her wall. But uh yeah, I mean

679
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: that was you guys. That was a huge pike, twenty

680
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: nine pound pike. That thing's a monster. That must have

681
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: been a lot of fun. Good on you, Leslie. Yeah,

682
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: that's that's like Saskatchewan numbers, right, I mean, that's that's incredible. Um. Okay,

683
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: so we'll go from We'll go from big predators okay

684
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: to teeny tiny worms. How does that sound like it?

685
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: This story comes to us from the environmental section of

686
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Rising dot com, based out of Buffalo, New York,

687
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: and it reads as if we didn't have enough to

688
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: worry about, now we've got jumping earthworms on our hands. Yep,

689
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: you heard it right. A new invasive species has reared

690
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: its eyelis and squirming head in these parts, causing another

691
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: concerning echo stir and similar to the actions of Asian

692
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: carp another invasive species that is on our doorstep. When

693
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: these suckers are disturbed, they thrash about, hence they're jumping moniker.

694
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: It is also significant to note that these unwelcome critters

695
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: are also slightly iridescent and leave behind granular castings that

696
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: resemble ground beef, according to earthworm scientists Nick Henshew Right now,

697
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: so apparently these more aggressive jumping earthworms are cropping up

698
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: in significant numbers in western New York and the article

699
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: says that they've actually been down in the south for

700
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: a number of years now and have really only been

701
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: noticed widely in places like New England in the past

702
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty years. UM. And it says it is

703
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: thought that the earthworms arrived in a shipment of mulch,

704
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: similar to how invasive species arrive in the hands of humans.

705
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: The kicker here is that these destructive worms live close

706
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: to the earth's surface, where they can scavenge for fallen leaves,

707
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: and typically these leaves are left to decompose and then

708
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: get recycled back into the soil, thus providing the trees

709
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: with the nutrients that they need to thrive. Um. And

710
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: then we're gonna get to the fishy part, because it

711
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: does connect to fishing directly. It goes on to say

712
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: the ability of these worms to reduce the leaf litter,

713
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: to mix up soil horizons, and to add a whole

714
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: lot of bacteria to the soil is very disruptive to plants,

715
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: to animals, and to organisms that live in that soil.

716
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: And the fear right is that the jumping earthworm could

717
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: actually displace the beneficial regular old earthworm that already exists

718
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: in an area. Um. But this is where it gets

719
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: really funky. Right, According to the story, regular old earthworms,

720
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: which I did not know, are technically not native to

721
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: Western New York either. Earthworm scientist this Nick Henshu dude

722
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: who's like the worm you know, savant right, says it's

723
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: light right, worm guy, I got worms. He says it's

724
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: likely that the glaciers moved earthworms well south of the area.

725
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: In other words, they were there, and then when the

726
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: glaciers came through, the glaciers should have pushed them well

727
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: out of Western New York. And the reason that they

728
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: exist in Western New York and other northern areas is

729
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: that boats bait potted plant soil being moved easily transports

730
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: teeny tiny earthworm egg cases. And hence you says, people

731
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: go to these pristine areas on fishing trips, and we

732
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,479
Speaker 1: see this as an invasion front. They dumped their bait

733
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: overboard because they think it will kill the earthworms or

734
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: the fish will have a good meal. And what they

735
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: don't realize, and I didn't know this, is that earthworms

736
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: can live quite happily underwater for about three weeks or

737
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: more if the water is oxygen eated enough. Really, I

738
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: didn't I did not know that three weeks. Yeah, so

739
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, you take

740
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: your container and nightcrawlers and just go off and dump them.

741
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: You think, well, they're gonna drown, right, Like, I know

742
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: they live in the dirt, but there's like a little

743
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: air channels and stuff. I thought in the in the dirt,

744
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: like they have to have air. But no, according to

745
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: the worm guy, three weeks or more underwater. Okay, lots

746
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: of layers to this first that that last pieces fascinating

747
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: and will forever change the way I think about disposing

748
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: a worm bait. But what about the new worms? Like

749
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: they sound like they might be dynamite bait. So there's

750
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: a there was a little video embedded in this, and

751
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: if you didn't know what you're looking at, you really

752
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't know. It wasn't your your straight up nightcrawler. They

753
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: have like a little bit more milkiness like some milky bands.

754
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: I guess that's the iridescence they're talking about. But I mean,

755
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: you know they have the big worm in someone's hand

756
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: close up, and it is it's wriggland and and and

757
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: twitching all over the place. But I mean, in the

758
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: right circumstances, I've pulled regular nightcrawlers out of the dirt

759
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: in my yard and they do that too, so it's

760
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: not super noticeable side by side. However, the end of

761
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: this article, it does say, although these pests have now

762
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: made their way into western New York, it's important that

763
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: we do our part to slow the spread. God that

764
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: sounds familiar of the worms by practicing the following don't

765
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: use jumping worms as bait, be vigilant when taking part

766
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: in plant swaps, obtain clean mulch, and compost from reliable sources.

767
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: Al Right, well, it doesn't sound like feeding him to

768
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: fish is going to be the solution to this problem.

769
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, chances are, if if there's as many as

770
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: people are saying, people are feeding in the fish all

771
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: the time. If you're digging your own worms, I swear

772
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: man like, if you if you didn't hear this like,

773
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: chances are you wouldn't even be paying enough attention. UM,

774
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: but I do think it just it brings up sort

775
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: of a more interesting point in um bait transport overall.

776
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: You know, like a lot of people just go catch

777
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: crayfish in this creek and go fishing in this river.

778
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: You know, things like that. There are laws state by

779
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: state that you really need to check before you do

780
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: anything like that. You think it would be so benign

781
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: to you know, even with shiners, there's there's so many

782
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: lakes that say do not dump your unused bait, and

783
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: this sort of ties back to that. I just think

784
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that a lot of people

785
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: don't think about. And what the effects of dumping a

786
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: few shiners are bringing a few crayfish from here to there,

787
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, can do you no huge problem. Bucket biology

788
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: extends beyond just the fishing live well, and that's I

789
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: think that's a really good thing for people to remember. Alright,

790
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: So Phil, you have a lot to digest. You've got

791
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: gunning down sharks, algae, jumping worms, do record pike the

792
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: record pike, Phil, I don't know how you're gonna pick,

793
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: but I know you're gonna pick the shooting of a

794
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: shark anyway, So we're gonna find out who won. And then,

795
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: right after Phil has declared a victor, if you are

796
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: not already full on jumping earthworms, we're gonna kick it

797
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: over to our own. Jannis patelis for this week's Yanni's Desk,

798
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: and he's gonna tell you why cash darn it, you

799
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: should be eating some small mouth bass. Here ye, here ye,

800
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: all rise for the honorable judge filled the engineer who

801
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: can count the number of fish he has caught in

802
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,959
Speaker 1: his lifetime. On one hand, Myles Nulte came in hot

803
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: this week, spending the gamut from the scientific to the sensational.

804
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: But the allure of guns, sharks, jumping worms, it was

805
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: all too much for me to deny him. Therefore, I

806
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: declare Joe Surmeli the winner of Week one. Thank you too.

807
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 1: Whoever will be keeping track of this on the Bend

808
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: wiki page, please find something better to do with your life,

809
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: all right, Welcome back to Yannie's Desk today. Small mouth

810
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: is on the menu. That's right, you heard it on

811
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: the menu, because it is good to eat. I don't

812
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: care who you are, how many small mouths you've caught,

813
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: what body of water you're catching them out of If

814
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: you think otherwise, you are simply a bad cook, or

815
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: whoever is cooking the fish for you doesn't know what

816
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: they're doing. I would put it right up there with

817
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: a red fish. Very similar actually in flesh, the texture

818
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: and the density, very similar to a red fish. The

819
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: flavor might be a little bit different, definitely a little

820
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: bit more freshy water tasting, but awesome. I recently caught

821
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: a couple decided to grill them up. You can definitely

822
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: fry them. You can fry any fish and make it

823
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: taste good, but it tastes like corn meal and oil

824
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: and whatever seasonings you put on there. If you want

825
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: to taste what a fish really taste like, it's good

826
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: to keep it simple, throw it on the grill. And now,

827
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: my buddy Ryan Callahan told me about this method of

828
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: preparation for Smalley's, so we decided to try it and

829
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: it worked out slick. I simply filate them and I

830
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: did not scale them. Steve has talked about this before,

831
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: and I noticed this. I really dolled up my knife

832
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: fileting these fish and working through those scales, so we

833
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: had some good sized one sees. Some people will scale

834
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: fish just for that reason, so that their knife will

835
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: work better when they're fileting the fish. Then. But I

836
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: just filate them, left the scales on, and then we

837
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: did them a couple of different ways as far as

838
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: seasonings go. We had olive oil and salt and pepper

839
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: on a couple. We had olive oil and Cajun seasoning

840
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: spices on a couple. And I also, this is a

841
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: trick I learned from our friend Jesse Griffiths down in

842
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: Texas is we caramelized a whole bunch of onions and

843
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: it took those caramelized onions and put them right on

844
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: top of the raw filet. And then we took all

845
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 1: those filets and just sent them on a hot grill,

846
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: put the lid on. It definitely didn't take more than

847
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: ten minutes, and those filets were cooked. Didn't cook them

848
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: too long. I don't want to dry them out, but

849
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: they were ready to roll. Let me tell you, they

850
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: were delicious. Everybody thought they were delicious. You should go

851
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: try it out. You need to be careful though. Small mouth,

852
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: unlike their large mouth cousins, are slow to grow and

853
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: long lived. They often take five years just to reach

854
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: twelve inches, which is the legal harvest size in many states.

855
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: The oldest records small mouth lived to a right bold

856
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: age of twenty six years. That is an old fish.

857
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: You kind of feel bad about killing them on that

858
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: old but you're not gonna be able to know when

859
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: you catch them, so they don't spawn every year. Only

860
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: about the males make nests in a given year. Small

861
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: Mouth also produced far fewer eggs, and large mouth about

862
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: half as many per fish. Now, this all isn't to

863
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: say that you shouldn't harvest and eat Smalley's, but just

864
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: be thoughtful about it. Only harvest from healthy stocks, avoid

865
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: harvesting the large females, and only keep what you need

866
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: for a meal. It's not like a giant salmon run

867
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: where you're gonna, you know, fill your freezer for the

868
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: next year. But it's definitely worth eating fresh. I've never

869
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: frow and once. I can't tell you what it tastes

870
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: like after it's been frozen for a while. I'm sure

871
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: it's still good. But uh, I think just to keep

872
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: your local fishery or wherever you're at healthy, take what

873
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: you need for a meal, enjoy it, fry it up,

874
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: grill it, do whatever you want to do there you

875
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: go small, he's on the menu. Well, if that wasn't

876
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: controversial enough, here comes our boy Lance V in this

877
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: week's Trolling with Lance. Uh. He's gonna teach you how

878
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: to get on a pro staff, and some of what

879
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: he's going to explain will undoubtedly be hard from any

880
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: of you to hear, and I apologize, But sometimes the

881
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: only way to make it as a successful Internet angler

882
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: is through the school of hard knocks, the land to

883
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: the boats, to the lake to the sea, getting up

884
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: then on net. But the boy Lance, what up? Ask clowns.

885
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 1: Welcome to another installment of Trolling with Lance. I'm Lance

886
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: V and I just racked up more Instagram followers in

887
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: the time it took to introduce myself than you could

888
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: in ten years hashtag Triflin. But I'm not here to

889
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: be discouraging. That's what mirrors and selfies are for. I'm

890
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: here to keep it real and help you on the

891
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: path to Internet fishing greatness. I haven't read any of

892
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: my d m since like, but I know a ship

893
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: ton of them goes something like this, Your Lance, I

894
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: just hit two five followers on Instagram. How do I

895
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: get on a pro staff? Great question? After all, being

896
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: a legit internet fisherman has nothing to do with enjoyment

897
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: of the sport. Sharing useful phishing info, or creating a

898
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: community is about free gear, mother or at least the

899
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: appearance of free gear. It's about making people think your

900
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: ship is so tight that companies throw endorsement deals that

901
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: you like your dart board. Now, this is kind of

902
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: a complex topic because there are two kinds of pro staffs,

903
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: real ones and imaginary ones. When you see me drop

904
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: hashtag Gucci, hashtag Nitro, hashtag monster energy, hashtag hook, hashtag

905
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: Applebe's hashtag Netflix, hashtag benn against, hashtag thirteen fishing, hashtag

906
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 1: def jam, hashtag Spencer gifts, and hashtag Mega bass. It's

907
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: mad real. It's so real that if I backed out

908
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: of those deals, there's social media presence would drop harder

909
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: than a scrillics breakdown hashtag truth hurts, Oh my god.

910
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: In this segment, I'm gonna give you some tips for

911
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: getting on an imaginary pro staff, because let's face it,

912
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: you ain't getting on any real ones. That would be

913
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: like telling a blind kid he could drive like they

914
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 1: do in Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift if he works really,

915
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: really hard. I mean, I ain't fronted with false hopes

916
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: that just ain't right. So here are the four levels

917
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: of imaginary pro staff status hashtag dream big level. You know,

918
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: tag you're in. Choose anywhere from fifteen to forty seven

919
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: fishing gear brands you like. Actually using any of their

920
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: products is not required. Tag all of them, and every

921
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: single post you drop you're now on all of their

922
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: pro staffs. I mean, it's total bullshit, but you're the

923
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: only one that knows that, right dog, every other poser

924
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: will tremble with reverence and respect. It's simple psychology. Most

925
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: people naturally assume that if you tag a brand, you

926
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: were affiliated with it. If you aren't, why the hell

927
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: would you give the company free promotion? For no reason,

928
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: nobody would ever do that. Hash technologist power level two.

929
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: Stick them up. There's no way you get enough money

930
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: in that birthday card from your Graham Graham to buy

931
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: that Shimano stella you've been tagging, but you do earn

932
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: enough in one shift at Chick fil A to purchase

933
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: copious amounts of Shimano stickers. Your sticker portfolio is more

934
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: important than your stock portfolio. For real, every time you

935
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: take a picture of one of your cheapass tackle trays.

936
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: Because you ain't catching ship, there needs to be a

937
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: different sticker on the lid. Nobody will ever assume you

938
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: paid your harder and money for a sticker er. Go.

939
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: When they see that jack All sticker on your home

940
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: depot bucket, they'll assume jack All hunted your grass down

941
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: to represent hashtag jacket level. Trace the friend zone. I

942
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: know you don't have many friends, but you know that

943
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: one guy with a hook up. Maybe your cousin gets

944
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: an employee discount of Walmart, or your uncle in Florida

945
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: knows someone who makes soft plastics and you get a

946
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: free bag for Christmas. It really doesn't matter. You just

947
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: have to be able to flaunt that you don't pay

948
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: full price for ship. More importantly, once you've establish a

949
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: line to some level of discounts for freebees, you have

950
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: to tell your three friends you can hook them up,

951
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: but then never follow through. Hashtag suckers level areno quatrou big.

952
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: Let's assume you have an insignificant number of Insta followers,

953
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: like less than three hundred thousand. If you got the

954
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: time to send hundreds of d m s and emails,

955
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: eventually you get on the pro staff of some half

956
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: ass company. You might be saying, lance, isn't that like

957
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: being on a real pro staff. No, it's still imaginary.

958
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: You'll have to commit to buying a certain amount of

959
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: their ship off, rest assured giving you that fake discount

960
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: will not hurt their bottom line. You'll then spend the

961
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: rest of your life over tagging out of them and

962
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: smile ever your time you do it. By the time

963
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: you finally realize that they'll sign anyone with a pulse,

964
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: it's too late. You'll have to eat to keep fishing

965
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: with their garbage that you're actually paying for, or revert

966
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,479
Speaker 1: back to complete loser status online because you're not on

967
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: a pro staff hashtag choose wisely. Remember if they don't

968
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: come to you and stroke a check while winding and

969
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: dining you on a corporate card at the Sizzler, you're

970
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: not actually on the pro staff. But don't sweat it,

971
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: because for nine of Internet fisherman, being on an imaginary

972
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: pro staff is just as good, maybe even better. Real

973
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: pro staffs come with real responsibilities. Yo, you gotta produce

974
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: pressures on sun. You gotta catch fish, and I mean

975
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: somewhere other than the pond and your friends, gated golf course, neighborhood,

976
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: hashtag bow money, more problems. So that's it for this week.

977
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: I know Miles and Joe would love me to drop

978
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: hashtag bent all over my post, but meet Beater ain't

979
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: got that kind of scrilla. I'll catch you next time

980
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: if you're lucky and I'm not a full fledged member

981
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: of a Google squad by then hashtag John b is.

982
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: But Jesus, every time I hear Lence talk, every time

983
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: his mouth is moving, I just missed the days before

984
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: social media. Remember those days like when when being a

985
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: fishing celebrity just meant you had multiple pictures of yourself

986
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: tacked up on the brag board at the local tackle shop.

987
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean bragboard is the thing in the past.

988
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: But you know what outside this man, remember I had

989
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: the good old tackle shops would have like a bulletin board,

990
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: like a communal bulletin board somewhere, and they would just

991
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: be like classified like tacked up like free dog missing

992
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: one leg, deer corn handmade crab nets, and they would

993
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: just eat cut the bottom and they'd just be the

994
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: little you'd rip off. No one cut it, you just

995
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: ripped it. You just ripped it and then everybody you like,

996
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: you stick those in your wallet and prank call those

997
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: people later. And I missed that too. I community the

998
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: community forum in thumbtack forms. I remember there were always

999
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: those three by five note cards. They probably had like

1000
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: a like a jello mold recipe on the back of

1001
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: the or something, and you know, just said in like

1002
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: chicken scrawl, like ninety six London for sale, minor damage

1003
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 1: called Billy at five five five six two five seven,

1004
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: and then you have to waste half a Saturday and

1005
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: actually drive out to Billy's overgrown back loop figure out

1006
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: how minor the damage actually was. Well, nowadays you can

1007
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: just see the photos online, right, but they're usually very

1008
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: strategically taken, which is the other thing. So now it's like, oh,

1009
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: minor damage, but the only thing you can see is

1010
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: like a tight close up of the Mako logo, so

1011
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: you at least know that it is a Mako boat

1012
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: and it does exist somewhere. But like that's all you see.

1013
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's it's still a gamble, you know.

1014
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: But the online junk shopping it's a trip, man, So

1015
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: let's let's take our trip. This week to the sale bin.

1016
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: Why did you put the hand to pay? You don't

1017
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: know what I'm going man, What you didn't have to

1018
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: be so hurtful with me so angry? All right? Man?

1019
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: So Miles, you are going to take the reins on

1020
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: this one because you've managed to pull yourself away from

1021
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: the casual encounter section on Craig's list long enough to

1022
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: look for some good Bozeman junk this week. You've got

1023
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: a ringer here. We gotta we gotta have some some

1024
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: regional diversity in these. Like you got the East lockdown,

1025
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm looking out for the West. Absolutely. Uh. I was

1026
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: digging through the old Bozeman Craigslist, and not in the

1027
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: way that you guys are gonna accuse me of later,

1028
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: but I found this post for wedding special occasion fly

1029
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: fishing boot near with feathers only twenty five dollars. And uh,

1030
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean the thing about these is I have actually

1031
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: had to wear fly fishing bootneers, and and and seem

1032
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: nicely tied beautiful flies that went for bootineers is kind

1033
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: of a thing out here. And and what I'm looking

1034
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: at our not those this looked like a chicken exploded,

1035
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: and and someone glued it to a hook. These are

1036
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: these are craft store feathers. Okay, for one thing, Like,

1037
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: these are not even nice fly shop feathers. These were

1038
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 1: purchased at a chain craft store. I know this because

1039
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: I buy this ship from my kid to tie her

1040
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: flies with, like she likes to do that, so like

1041
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: she's not using all daddy stuff. Um. And they are

1042
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: just the most hideous drab colors right, like they're not

1043
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: oh god, it's just shades of browns and grays. But dude,

1044
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: I've I've actually so I've I've I've been in a

1045
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: wedding with a fly boot near two and I was

1046
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: the guy tax with tying the theme colored deceivers for

1047
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: the boutineers. Okay, black and sharp truths from my buddy

1048
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: Eric Kerber, who will be and has been on this show. Um.

1049
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: And it's funny because it's like dudes don't do weddings right,

1050
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: like we don't get as crazy as ladies about wedding things.

1051
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: But I was like spray painting patterns on the tail

1052
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: feathers and things, and I do want to be like,

1053
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: this is not perfect. This one is I just this

1054
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: one is not perfect. This is for a wedding. It's

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00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: not perfect, dude. I had to tie seven of them

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00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: and it took me like six months to make them

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00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: to make them perfect. So knowing the pain that actually

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00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: goes into crafting this for somebody's special day, these are horrendous.

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00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: And I like the rite up uh it says in

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00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: huge caps, never used dollars each or on for all

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00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: five there's about three dollars worth of material and all

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00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: of them and either the way I see it right bullshit,

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00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: they were never used. You're just trying to make a

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00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: quick buck off something you have laying around from your

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00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 1: old wedding. Or dude, what what if what if dude

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00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: got stood up? Like what if he's were ready for

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00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: the big day and he just you know, fly fish

1068
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: too long, one too many times and this whole thing,

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00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: wake up put. I think the third option that I

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00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: came up with is that they ordered these because they

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00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: say they ordered him from a Colorado artisan in the

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00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: right up. I think the god them they realized how

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00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: hideous they were, they claimed they I should also say

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00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: this that says the last sense. Unfortunately, we forgot to

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00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: pack them to our wedding location, so they have never

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00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: been used. I'm calling bullshit. I think you intentionally forgot

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00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: these because you bought them and you had the buyers

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00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: or moors. You're like, I'm not wearing that ship on

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00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: my wedding day. That's not coming with us, And now

1080
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: you're trying to recoup some of your your sunk money

1081
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: on that. Also, these awful feathers are just placed in

1082
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: like a little little black like super sharp pointy parking cones,

1083
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: and all I can think is that if you drilled through,

1084
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: you can make a line through, you know what I mean,

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00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: fly out of these and like you get something to

1086
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: eat it. Or I can make a sweet daisy chain

1087
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: control for tuna as is, although I could make these

1088
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: for a fraction of a hundred bucks, so um, they

1089
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: can have them. But maybe where the jerk stude, maybe

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00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: somebody out there but their special day. This is exactly

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00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: what they want. Hideous draft store is craft store. Definitely

1092
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: the jerks. But if if you want to help us

1093
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: continue being in net jerks and making fun of things

1094
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: that people are selling that have something vaguely to do

1095
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: with fishing, please let us know we need your input

1096
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: to continue making this segment amazing. Send us an email

1097
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: at bent at the meat eater dot com and let

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00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: us know what kind of weird crap you found on

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00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: the internet for sale. You know, man, I'll pass on

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00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: the bootineers. But one thing, one thing I I do

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00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: buy on occasion online via eBay or Craigslist. I do

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00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: buy old lures, especially like hard to find stuff, you

1103
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, you do you do? Do

1104
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: you not do that? Do you not root around like

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00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: and and and buy things you just can't grab in

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00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: the shop anymore. I I always threatened to, like I

1107
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: do look through the things for sale and regularly go, oh,

1108
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: I would love to get that, but I never I

1109
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: never follow through. I'm just I'm I think I'm just

1110
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: weird about buying used ship off the internet from people

1111
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: that I don't know, because I feel like those transactions

1112
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: are always so awkward. Oh they are. They are, And

1113
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: it's weird because people put stuff up for sale and

1114
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: it's like they're excited about selling their things until you

1115
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: actually start inquiring, and then they get all like, well,

1116
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: who the hell are you? And it's like, well, dude,

1117
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: you put this up for sale, man, And then it

1118
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 1: gets all weird, like no one trust each other because

1119
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: there's so many scams out there, a real person text

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01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: me when you get to this seven eleven and I'll

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: send you a pass code. I'm like Jesus, all right, whatever,

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01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, I'll particularly buy discontinued stuff that I

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01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: can't find. And uh, this is great because we're coming

1124
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: to the end of the line. We're just about out

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01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: of time. And in our end of the line segment today,

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01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about a a very old lore,

1127
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: been around a long time, and it is not discontinued,

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01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: though it is not popular in all regions of this country. However,

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01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: let me tell you, if you want to up your

1130
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: big brown trout game, pay attention to this one. Well

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01:00:54,400 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: it's not loud enough. Today I am paying of you

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01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: to the Smithwick Ratlin rogue stick bait. Now, the Smithwick

1133
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: has been around man. What started as a hobby for

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01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: Jack K. Smithwick in nineteen seven blossomed into a monster

1135
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: Laura business based in Shreveport, Louisiana. And I kind of

1136
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: find that interesting because hard stick baits are so much

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01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: more associated with northern fisheries like Walleye and pike and

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01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: small amounts. Right, and if you've ever been to the

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01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: Louisiana low country dude. There are so many stumps and

1140
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: so much vegetation in that water. I feel like the

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01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: three troubles on a rogue would not stay unstuck for

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01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: two shakes of a rod tip. Right. Uh. It almost

1143
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: would feel more appropriate for the arbor gast hoola popper

1144
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: or a jitterbug to have been the hometown lawer of Shreveport.

1145
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: But ironically those baits were all made further north in Ohio.

1146
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: Weird right Anyway, Smithwick's southern roots might explain why the

1147
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: rogue became the number one go to big trout slayer

1148
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: in Arkansas, Louisiana's neighbor to the north. Now as the

1149
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: now world renowned trophy brown trout fisheries developed in Ozark

1150
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: rivers like the White and the Little Red, them good

1151
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: old boys wasn't out there trying to get a dainty

1152
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: sip on a comparer done, you know what I'm saying.

1153
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: They wasn't flicking up panther Martin around on two pound test.

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01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: Those guys fish just like they did for everything else,

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01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: simply yet aggressively in a manner that would produce the meat.

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01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: So if you think back to the earliest days of

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01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: those fisheries, options were limited. There were no uh Raplea

1158
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: slash baits or Kai Tech swing impacts on the shelf

1159
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: at the general store in Arkansas, but there were ratlin rogues.

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01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: So despite a wide variety of lower options today, tell

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01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: you the truth, you will still have a hell of

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01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: a hard time finding a shop in ozark trout country

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01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't have rogues, if for no other reason than

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01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: to cater to the older crowd that just will not

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01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: waver from their utter devotion to that bait. And I'm

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01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: a believer in the power of the rogue thanks to

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01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: Pete the jig man Cob, who happens to be one

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01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: of those old stages on the White River. You know,

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01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: Pete had been guiding the White for many, many years,

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01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: and I think he was pretty used to catering to

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01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: clients that Jess wanted to catch lots and lots of

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01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: trout right, And when I was fishing with them all

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01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: those years ago, I think at outset, he assumed that

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01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: I was one of those people. And we had caught

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01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: so many smaller fish on tiny jigs Day one, I

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01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: lost count and by the end of it I kind

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01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: of lost interest too, and so had he, but he

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01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna say that. I didn't know that until I

1179
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: suggested that tomorrow we throw no thing but big stick

1180
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: baits all day, regardless of outcome, and Pete lit up. Man.

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01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: He was happier than a pig and ship here in that.

1182
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: It turned out that Pete was all about swinging for

1183
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: the fences. And that next day I learned that fishing

1184
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: a rogue properly was just as taxing on the arms

1185
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: as stripping giant streamers for hours and hours on a

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01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: fly rod. And the sharp angle and width of that

1187
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: lure's lip it's pretty unique, and it creates a lot

1188
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: more water resistance, I think, than similar baits, and it

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01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: makes it necessary to whip that rod extra hard to

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01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: get a rogue to depth fast, and you know, no joke,

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01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: when you're doing it right, it burns, man. But that

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01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: steep lip is also what makes a rogue kick to

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01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: the side more violently, flash more radically than a lot

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01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: of other stick baits. And of course nowadays Smithwick makes

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01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: suspending models, but even the original old school floaters rise

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01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: very slowly, so when you pause they suspend beautifully, and

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01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: that's often when the fatal blow is delivered. Now, I

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01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: can't say that Pete and I destroyed that day, but

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01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: the shoulder workout was worth it because we did not

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01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: catch a brown under twenty and a couple of the

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01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: fish we did catch could be measured in pounds right,

1202
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: And you know, thinking back, honestly, the rogue was not

1203
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: exactly a staple um in shops where I grew up

1204
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: in the Northeast. Nobody used them or even talked about

1205
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: them that I recall. But because of what I learned

1206
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: from Pete and fishing them in the Ozarks, the rogue

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01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: is a staple for me now. In fact, the biggest

1208
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: brown trout I've caught to date on the Lehigh River

1209
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, which is pretty close to where I live,

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01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: fell to a ratling rogue. And I've mowed down some

1211
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: big local small amounts and pickerel on them too. So

1212
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: it just goes to show you that despite the constant

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01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: push to rope anglers with new technology, there's a reason

1214
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: why classic ship doesn't change or go away. So that's

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01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: it for this week. We hope you learned, laughed, felt

1216
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: slightly uncomfortable, and then came to the realization that laughter

1217
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: is always the best medicine. We also seriously hope you

1218
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: like Bent so much that you're telling all your best

1219
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: fishing buds about it. Please take a minute, leave us

1220
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Speaker 1: a review, and and don't forget. Genuinely we'd love to

1221
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Speaker 1: hear from you. Please please please direct all comments, rave reviews,

1222
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: or concerns to Bent at the meat eater dot com

1223
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: or you know, you can just write it in. Tell

1224
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: us what you're catching, absolutely, tell us a crazy ass story,

1225
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: send us an awkward photo. We might use it, just

1226
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: so you know. And drunk emailing is always welcomed and appreciated,

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01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: unless you used to date either of us, in which

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01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:58,959
Speaker 1: case I don't know. I'm sorry about everything. I really

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01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: hope that doesn't happen until next week. Remember to wet

1230
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: those knots with your own saliva, not someone else's, so

1231
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: you don't get COVID. And remember, fishing isn't about catching,

1232
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: It's about creating Instagram stories that are longer than the

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Speaker 1: Godfather