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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: We have the Boonus episode today, reacting to the big

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Speaker 2: news of the four year contract extension with Justin Mattabique.

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Speaker 1: This is a great way to kick off free agency

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Speaker 1: for the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is a huge move. And you know,

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Speaker 3: truth be told, we did our free agency primer podcast

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Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I don't think that either of

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Speaker 3: us really saw this one coming. And just I think

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Speaker 3: we saw it coming potentially, but not coming uh Friday night.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think I think coming eventually eventually.

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Speaker 3: We didn't expect eventually to be a few hours after

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Speaker 3: we tape that podcast. But it's great news. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the Ravens get one of the best defensive players in

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Speaker 3: the game under contract. Uh, he's a cornerstone piece of

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Speaker 3: this team. Eric Taicasta said that in his statement when

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Speaker 3: the when the team announced the move. And so I

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Speaker 3: think that this is just really exciting for the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: This is just an all some way to kick off

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Speaker 3: free agency and getting a deal done, you know, gives them,

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Speaker 3: gives them flexibility. I think it's a win on every

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Speaker 3: single level and I'm sure to cost us fired up

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Speaker 3: at a BK is fired up, and I know Ravens

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Speaker 3: fans are as well for sure.

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Speaker 1: So, uh, this is a reported for your ninety eight

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Speaker 1: million dollar deal, which actually is is kind of on

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Speaker 1: an average per year basis. I think that this isn't

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Speaker 1: as high as some people expected it to be. And

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Speaker 1: with it comes some some pretty big guaranteed money. According

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Speaker 1: to the reports, seventy five and a half million dollars

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Speaker 1: in total guarantees, including fifty three and a half million

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Speaker 1: at signing per Adam Schefter. And that's some big money.

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Speaker 1: That's that's some big money. But this is a player

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Speaker 1: I think has been super durable, is young, entering the

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Speaker 1: prime of his career, like this is a seems to

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Speaker 1: be the Ravens. Uh, their way of doing business is

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Speaker 1: we're going to try to keep that average per year down,

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Speaker 1: try to keep those salary cap hit hits down, but

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Speaker 1: we'll give you the guarantees, right like we believe in you.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get that money. And so it's a win

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Speaker 1: win for both sides. This is a deal and not

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Speaker 1: only you know, in terms of the total amount of

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Speaker 1: the deal, but the flexibility it gives the Ravens going

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Speaker 1: forward into free agency. That's a big win for them too,

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Speaker 1: which we'll get to, but it's a win win when

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Speaker 1: you just look at this contract. I think for both sides.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens get one of the best defense tackles of

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Speaker 1: the game who's still rising, a great player at I

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Speaker 1: think a fair deal, and Justin Adebique gets a lot

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Speaker 1: of guaranteed money. He's set, his family is set for life,

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Speaker 1: and so I think it's a win win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that this is I just think that

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Speaker 3: I got to be really excited for Justin Adebique and

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Speaker 3: what this means for him. It's a life changing deal,

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Speaker 3: and we all knew it was coming. I think that

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Speaker 3: over the course of the year. Initially, I think the

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Speaker 3: feeling was like man Matta bk maybe pricing himself out

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Speaker 3: of Baltimore he's playing so well. And then he just

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Speaker 3: kept playing so well that it was like almost a

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Speaker 3: reverse where it was like he's playing so well, they

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Speaker 3: count this guy leap. He's so good, right, And I

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Speaker 3: think it's a testament to player development, to be honest.

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Speaker 3: Meda Bik was a third round pick and he had

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Speaker 3: all that athleticism and talent and there was excitement around him.

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Speaker 3: And there's buzz around him. And the first couple of years,

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Speaker 3: like he showed flashes, but it didn't all come together

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Speaker 3: until this year. But he just steadily improved, like every

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Speaker 3: single year he's gotten better, and he had a breakout

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Speaker 3: season at the perfect time for him and for the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: And I think that he's just going to continue with

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Speaker 3: sending and I think that, like, and that's what makes

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Speaker 3: this deal, I think really exciting for the Ravens is

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Speaker 3: that you get a player who is like basically he

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Speaker 3: is he is stepping into the prime of his career.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and that's why you give him such a

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Speaker 1: big deal, right, Like you don't pay for I mean,

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Speaker 1: in part, you pay for past performances, but really the

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Speaker 1: good deals, you're paying for what's to come. Yeah. Right,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens did that with Lamar Jackson. He's to MVP season. Right.

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Speaker 1: You look at that deal and you're like, yep, money

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Speaker 1: well spent, gave us an MVP year. Justin Mattabik, same thing.

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Speaker 1: I think that the Ravens are willing to give him

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Speaker 1: he might get way better than he was last year

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Speaker 1: so I think that this is a guy where for

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Speaker 1: The work ethic is there, the person is there, the

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Speaker 1: kind of guy that you would give a long term

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it is to your point that, look,

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Speaker 3: this is right around twenty five million a year reportedly

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Speaker 3: in terms of the average money, but you know, you

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Speaker 3: look at the salary cap going up and big way.

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Speaker 3: You know, Chris Jones is also a free agent. You know,

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Speaker 3: I felt like, I honestly felt like, and I did

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Speaker 3: a final drive on that this week, that the Chris

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Speaker 3: have an impact on a mattabk contract because Chris Jones

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Speaker 3: didn't get franchised in Kansas City. He played last year

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Speaker 3: basically redid his deal and he played on a one

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Speaker 3: year deal right around twenty million, and so that number

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Speaker 3: was going to go up based on his performance. And

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Speaker 3: I thought that deal would get done first, where actually

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Speaker 3: now it could be the reverse.

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Speaker 1: And I just.

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Speaker 3: When you look at the Ravens defense to have basically

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Speaker 3: you're kind of at all levels you have an anchor.

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Speaker 3: Mattabik is the anchor now of the defensive line. Moving forward,

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Speaker 3: you have Rokwan Smith who is the anchor at the

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Speaker 3: Brandon Stevens and Marlon Humphrey like you have. You had

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Speaker 3: arguably the best defense in the league last year, and

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Speaker 3: by getting a Matabk deal done, you're putting yourself in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. You just got me thinking, you know, what

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Speaker 1: are these Chris Jones, the Chris Jones contract, what's that

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Speaker 1: projected to be? Right? So Pro Football Focus projects that

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Speaker 1: at four years, one hundred and twenty million dollars. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and Christian Wilkins, the other big name defensive tackle on

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Speaker 1: the market, four years, one hundred million, so based very

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Speaker 1: similar to that exactly with sixty seven and a half

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Speaker 1: and not too far off of what they're projecting for

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones. And now Chris Jones is you know, played

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Speaker 1: helped them win the Super Bowl. So you know, that's

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Speaker 3: Of that's that's the level that you want to get, right,

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Speaker 3: that's the level of wan get yep.

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Speaker 1: Right. So I think it's it's gonna come in in

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Speaker 1: terms of guarantees and average per year probably between what

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I think that like Metabik, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: looks at this and says, okay, this is this is fair.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens feel like they get their guy, and then

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Speaker 3: it's just everyone comes out of that room feeling good

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Speaker 3: about it and to get it done before free agency.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned like I was surprised by it. You know,

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Speaker 3: I just feel like a lot of times deadlines kind

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Speaker 3: saw it last year with Lamar Jackson. It can linger

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Speaker 3: a little bit where guy stays on that franchise tag.

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Speaker 3: That's happened many times in the in the Ravens history,

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Speaker 3: and so I kind of felt like it was going

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Speaker 3: to go that way. But now they get this deal

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Speaker 3: that with the increased salary cap, getting this deal done

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Speaker 3: the free agency. And I you know, one question I've

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Speaker 3: that I've already I've seen fans asking is about Patrick Queen. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so now your matabike has done any way that they

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Speaker 3: could keep both, Just so fans know, the franchise tag

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Speaker 3: is not an option for Patrick Queen. Now that's already passed.

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Speaker 3: So they can't just say, all right, you know what,

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Speaker 3: And even if it was an option.

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Speaker 1: You can't shift it. You can't shift it.

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Speaker 3: And even if it was an option, that the finances

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would still say that that's unlikely with Patrick Queen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that doesn't change the conversation that we've had

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Speaker 1: Justin Mattabeky on the franchise Tag was going to have

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Speaker 1: one hit is eleven million dollars for Justin mettabk So

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Speaker 1: half got you got a half off discount. I'll take that.

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Speaker 1: You know me, I'm always looking for a coopy fifty

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Speaker 3: That's the thing is that you basically you just you

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Speaker 3: things you can do from salary cap standpoint. Well, one

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Speaker 3: of the biggest things you can do is get mad

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Speaker 3: Abk signed and then you can defer some of that

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Speaker 1: So you know that has a rippel effect of either

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Speaker 1: A it means you have to restructure fewer guys deals.

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Speaker 1: They still might do that to free up even more space.

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Speaker 1: And and really, now if they want to go get

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Speaker 1: right going into free agency. I'm not sure if they

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Speaker 1: restructure a Lamar Jackson deal for example, or Mark Andrews

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Speaker 1: are a Roquan Smith like, you can still do that,

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Speaker 1: but you're not forced to do it to get under

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Speaker 1: the cap and be cap compliant. Right. It means you

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Speaker 1: don't have to maybe cut as many guys as you

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Speaker 1: you might have planned to release to clear a cap space.

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Speaker 1: And it means kind of to what we're alluding to.

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Speaker 1: If you want to go get a guy in free agency,

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Speaker 1: you got to live eleven million dollars more to do

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Speaker 3: We said, he's so just you know, go ahead and

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Speaker 3: He's already there, but just just be consistently one of

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's this is a classic, by the way, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent, which I think

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Speaker 1: So you know it's close. You know, how many children's

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