1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Please if you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, if 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: you ask me, it's kind of fitting that the. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: Ugliest division in football comes down to the last day 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: of the season in the ugliest possible weather. We are 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: watching an absolute you know what storm come through Tampa 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: and right now as we sit the Buccaneers are sitting 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: here with the six point halftime lead. Now, I will 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: remind everybody that if the Buccaneers win, the AFC South 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: is not finalized, there will still be a tiebreaker tomorrow 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: between the Falcons and the Saints. But if the Panthers 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: want to just make this easy, all they gotta do 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: is come out and win this game. And it seems 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: fitting to me. Usually I want football when it comes 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: down to the last moment to be the best of 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: both teams. I want it to be the best of 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: the Panthers. This is the best of the Buccaneers, with 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: absolutely no variables that make it less than the best. 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: But Buck, it feels fitting. 19 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: Bucking fits on Fox Sports Radio, Buck Rising Jason Fitz 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: that we are watching the ugliest of all divisions come 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: down to the ugg least of all football games. 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: Which division did you say was up for grabs? 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: The NFC South, Did I say the AFC South. 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: It's sure one could hit it. 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 4: Hardly blame you for assigning the hideousness of the football 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 4: that we have witnessed in the NFC South to the 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: AFC South, which is perpetually played hideous football as I 28 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: sit here in Jacksonville, Florida for my annual trip down 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 4: here to cover the Tits and the Jags, which promises 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 4: to be a different kind of ugly. 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: But yes, this is This is not. 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 4: A great situation for either of these teams to have 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: to be gutting it out in the elements. But what 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 4: more could you possibly want, FITZI, I love a rain 35 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: game Tampa is the brave Bucks fans who have seen 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: their team go from one of the hottest in the 37 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 4: NFL this season to pedestrian is pretty kind turnovers on 38 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: both sides with the ball. I'm surprised they're putting the 39 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: ball in the air as much as they have been 40 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: willing to throughout the course of this game. And it 41 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 4: looks like the rain is at least as they show 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: the stadium at halftime on the ESPN broadcast, it looks 43 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: like the rain is a little less. You can at 44 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 4: least the visibility appears to be better, so we'll see 45 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: if that has any impact on how well these two 46 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: teams can play in the second half. But as they 47 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: just show, Baker has nine interceptions in his last eight games. 48 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: Neither of these teams are overwhelmingly are, at least tonight 49 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 4: having success running the ball, and that's the thing that 50 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: we thought was going to be the Panther's superpower on offense. 51 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: Maybe not superpower, but one of the things that they're 52 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: better at. The rain continues to come down. Poor Peter 53 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: Schriker clearly unprepared for the elements, it seems, but it's 54 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 4: going to be pretty gross. Tampa Bay only allowing four 55 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: rushing yards in the first half of the game, so 56 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 4: Todd Bowles probably pretty pleased with that particular situation. But again, 57 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 4: the Bucks need this, I mean, they both need to 58 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: be able to get into the playoffs. The Bucks need 59 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 4: this and then some and then some. Basically, they no 60 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: longer control their own destiny. But right now, as they 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: lead thirteen to seven, with the second half getting ready 62 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: to kick off, we'll see if they can't finish the job. 63 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: It's amazing how two teams come into the same game 64 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: with the same destiny possibly on the line, and it 65 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: feels so different for the two of them because Carolina 66 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: is so far ahead of where most people thought Carolina 67 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: would be. And look, I can't figure Carolina out if 68 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: they lose the division this year, if they lose this 69 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: game and then they lose the tiebreaker. Let's not get 70 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: it twisted. Getting swept by the Saints probably had something 71 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: to do with this, Like this is a Carolina team 72 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: that has been up and down at times. But the 73 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: fact that Carolina a team that you know, many people 74 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: were ready to give up on bryshung permanently. 75 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: Coming into this season. 76 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: Many people were wondering if Dave Canalis would be yet 77 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: another fired coach in a long line of fired coaches. 78 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: A lot of us just sat there and said, Okay, 79 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: even when the Panthers have been good, it feels like 80 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: they're still slightly irrelevant because they're the Panthers and they're 81 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: taking on a Tampa Bay team. There was a hot 82 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: trendy pick coming into the season for some to win 83 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. They're taking on a Tampa Bay team 84 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: that started this season to your point, and now they've 85 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: just fallen apart. Now, part of that's injury. They've been 86 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: decimated everywhere. But even the fallout from this is so different. 87 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: If the Panthers lose this game, their fan base is 88 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: gonna sit back and say, hey, man, we almost got them, 89 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: and we are on the right track. Ownership can look 90 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: around and say. 91 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: We almost got them. We're on the right track, right. 92 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: Coaches can tell the players look at this, we almost 93 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: got them. 94 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: We're on the right track. 95 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: And then you turn around to the Buccaneers side they 96 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: lose this, there are people out there that want Todd 97 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: Bowles fired. They are Buccaneers fans that want Baker gone, 98 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: like the way that this season is gone. Even though 99 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 2: these two teams are in the same game with the 100 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: same possible outlook out on the line. Man, the fallout 101 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: from a loss is wildly different for each of these franchises. 102 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: Well, and it's one of those things where the Bucks 103 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 4: have I mean, the Bucks have dominated this division. 104 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 3: And I know you can and. 105 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 4: Talk about the merits or lack thereof that winning this 106 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: division actually has, but still, like Todd Bowles and Baker 107 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: Mayfield and before that Tom Brady and Bruce Arians, they 108 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: have owned the NFC South basically for the last four 109 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 4: or five years at this point in time, I don't 110 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: think Todd Bowles since he's been the coach of the 111 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 4: Bucks has ever lost the division, So you know, maybe 112 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: it's it's I don't want to compare it to Mike 113 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 4: Tomlin and Pittsburgh because obviously that's a very different situation, 114 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: But just in terms of Bucks, Vans tired of hitting 115 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: a ceiling and they think that they have more or 116 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 4: they should be able to go farther in the postseason 117 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 4: than just winning their crappy division. Whereas for the Panthers, 118 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: to your point this, I mean, wasn't this supposed to 119 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 4: be a rebuilding year? Like if you told me that 120 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 4: the Panthers finished eight and nine or nine and eight, 121 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 4: however this is going to end up as they sit 122 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: here at five hundred pending to night's result, I would 123 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: have said, yeah, that's probably as good a situation as 124 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 4: they could have hoped for, given what we knew or 125 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 4: didn't know about Bryce Young at this point. And I 126 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: still don't think we definitively know about Bryce Young. I 127 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: don't know that Carolina, we do know. 128 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a tough sell. He's not that much. 129 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 4: Different of a player than the guy that got benched 130 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: a year ago for Andy Dalton at an advanced stage 131 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 4: of his career. Ted McMillan has clearly made a difference 132 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: that offensive line playing up to expectation, whereas in his 133 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: rookie year they were a nightmare, has significantly made a difference. 134 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 4: But again, is there already such an obvious ceiling for 135 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 4: a former number one overall pick here? And it's one 136 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 4: of those things where I don't know who who I 137 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 4: feel better about their trajectory because I don't know about 138 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 4: Bryce Young, I do know about Baker Mayfield. I don't 139 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 4: know about this defense. I don't know about the future 140 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 4: of Todd Bowles. I'm not really sure that either of 141 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: these teams have a very clear and obvious path forward 142 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: for their fan basis. Look around and be like, yeah, 143 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: this feels like we are on the correct track, even 144 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: though Panthers fans, to your point, would probably I think, 145 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: and most people associated with the organization, I think would 146 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 4: probably consider this season to be an overachievement. 147 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: If I had to bet my house, or we'll bet 148 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: your house, because that's a little more uncomfortable for everybody. 149 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: I bet your house, then we have to show up 150 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: to work all the time, and I know and you 151 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: know that I bet your house, You're gonna be mad 152 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: at me. It's gonna be a whole thing. So if 153 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: I had to bet your house, because I'm not bet mine, 154 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: on which one of these two teams would be better 155 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: for the next three years cumulative record, if I had 156 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: to make that bet, I would probably take Tampa Bay 157 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: because I can at least walk myself to the how 158 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: we got here with this under performance of the Buccaneers 159 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: this season. 160 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: And to your. 161 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: Point, as much as everybody, not everybody, there's a group 162 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: of people right now screaming about Todd Bowles. Tom Bowles 163 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: has always won the division and might still in a 164 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: year where people are trying to fire him, might still 165 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: win the division. This is the strange trajectory. 166 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: For every fan base. This is what happens. Right. 167 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: Your team suck and your team is terrible. They're in 168 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: the se suck. You hate it, you hate everything about it, 169 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 2: you want everybody fired. Then your team starts to climb 170 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: out of that sea suck and they get into the 171 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: you know, the level of mediocrity, like they're living in 172 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: mediocrity village, right, So they get there and for a 173 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: few years they're like, yeah, we're winning eight nine games, 174 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: and then that happens for a few years, and all 175 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: of a sudden, as well, we need a playoff win. 176 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: Then you get a playoff win, and you're like, oh, 177 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: this is all a waste if we're not winning the 178 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: super Bowl. Rip it apart, You rip it apart, and 179 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're right back to square one. 180 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: It is very rare for teams that are stuck in 181 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: some level to rip it all apart and then it 182 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: suddenly gets fixed. So I know this is kind of 183 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: where we are as a society, and you and I 184 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 2: talk about this a lot, but like we're out of 185 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: society where football fandom, sports fandom means if we didn't 186 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: get the result we expected this year, fire everybody. And 187 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how you sustain that. It just feels 188 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: like that's for a lot of teams, for a lot 189 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: of whether it's the Ravens who were going to talk 190 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: about today, the Steelers who are going to talk about today, 191 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: we're talking about the Buccaneers, right Like, there are a 192 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: ton of Bills fans out there that are looking around 193 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 2: saying fire and fire and fire. I'm like, there's only 194 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: one team that's happy every year. And hell, the last 195 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: team that won the Super Bowl was the Eagles, who 196 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: a year before that wanted to fire their coach. So like, 197 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: this is just the annual Todd Bowles is the annual 198 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: just trajectory of every fan base. Now, if you don't 199 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: like the result, your immediate thought isn't all right, how 200 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: do we get this better next year? It's everybody in 201 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: the room must suck at their job, and we got 202 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: to fire them all their bombs. 203 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say something that is probably not gonna endear 204 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 4: me to the audience. Okay, I don't care what football 205 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 4: fans think about their football teams. Like I just don't care. 206 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: I don't care at all about the online online dialogue. 207 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 4: I don't care about message boards. I don't care about, 208 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: you know, the the constant griping and moaning about various 209 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 4: coaching decisions. I don't care what you think about your 210 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: play caller, because nobody seems to like their play caller 211 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 4: unless you're a team that likes their play caller and 212 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 4: is getting ready to hire have that play caller hired 213 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 4: away by a team who needs a new head coach, 214 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: and that play caller is looking more and more like 215 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: a viable candidate. 216 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 3: Those are the only people that really like. 217 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 4: Their particular situations, and even then they would probably nitpick 218 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 4: them to death if that was the case. So while 219 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 4: I love our audience and I appreciate our audience, and 220 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 4: I love how passionate they are about their teams, I 221 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 4: do not care what people have to say about their 222 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: favorite teams because I can't trust them, like I don't 223 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: trust the analysis. I understand that and not to I 224 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 4: don't want to say that and be like, well, you 225 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 4: don't know what you're talking about. If you're a Bucks fan, 226 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: or if you're a I don't know who else, a 227 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 4: Steelers fan? Who else is unhappy a Ravens fan with 228 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: their current head coaching situation, because I do under I 229 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 4: do comprehend that there are things here about the circumstance 230 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: that has been imperfect. If you are a Steelers fan, 231 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: it is not good enough to have not won a 232 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 4: playoff game since twenty seventeen. 233 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: Unacceptable. 234 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 4: If you are a Ravens fan, you are the odds 235 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 4: on favorite to win the Super Bowl this year and 236 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: you are dangerously close to missing the postseason unacceptable. 237 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: If you are a Bucks. 238 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: Fan, you were looking around at this especially with the 239 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 4: way that you started out and the way that this 240 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 4: division has played out, and you're saying, no, it is 241 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 4: not acceptable for Todd Bowles having the kind of resources 242 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 4: that he does, and frankly criticism that I think is 243 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: fair of Todd Bowles that may be two in the 244 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: weeds for a national audience, but like he needs to 245 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: adjust to his personnel on defense. He hasn't done a 246 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 4: good job doing that this year, and that's his side 247 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 4: of the ball. There can be stubbornness on the part 248 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,359 Speaker 4: of the coaches that is fair for fans to criticize, 249 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: But on the whole, I feel like we just have 250 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: we feel in sports and really anything in society that 251 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: it requires any level of polarization or that comes with 252 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 4: any level of polarization. We just feel like we have 253 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 4: to scream about something right if things don't go exactly 254 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 4: to plan, because we've lived in a society where microwave 255 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 4: results have become the expectation for reasons that are beyond me, 256 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: because that never actually works. At least you've convinced yourself 257 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 4: that might actually be the case. But that's why I 258 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: really struggle with the things that fans seem to hyper 259 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: fixate on because I think they're just looking for answers somewhere, 260 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 4: and when they don't have answers, they just pin the 261 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 4: blame on one individual part of a thing that requires 262 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: so much more than just any one individual doing their 263 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: job at a reasonable level. There is no more complicated 264 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: organism than an NFL football team to try and understand 265 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 4: how it functions or why it doesn't function, and all 266 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 4: the different things that can impact that from top to bottom, 267 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: beyond even just the stuff on the field. So I 268 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: really I discount a lot of the criticisms that fans 269 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 4: start with at this time of year, and I know 270 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: fans don't want to hear that. 271 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: No. 272 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: I think for me it's about getting the pulse of 273 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: what people think that watch more of their team, and 274 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: so I use it to inform sort of my mindset 275 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: about where the pulse is. But to your point, I 276 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: will never forget when I was in a band that 277 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 2: never made it, brother, and we tried, We did everything, 278 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: We worked our asses off for a year, we toured everywhere, 279 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: we got buried in debt. 280 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 3: We just never made it. 281 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: And the number of times we would finish the show 282 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: and somebody would walk up and say, y'all need to 283 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: put your song on the radio. 284 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: Okay, never thought of that, buddy, Like, you were so right. 285 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: Even when I started doing this, I started as a podcast, 286 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: and people would come up. At the time in twenty twelve, 287 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: nobody knew what a podcast was. People would walk up 288 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 2: to me. They'd be like, oh, oh, you do a podcast, Man, 289 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: you should really get on the radio. Well, golly, you 290 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 2: think like everybody wants this simple solution to very complicated problems. 291 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: To your point, the number of times I've already seen 292 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 2: as a Raiders fan, people have completely fixed what the 293 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: Raiders are gonna look like next year by assigning these 294 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: ten free agents to them and these coaches is like, man, 295 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: you have no idea how all of this is gonna 296 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: play out. It's a very complicated ecosystem to try and 297 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: build these things. So you're a thousand percent right. I 298 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: just think that we need a little bit. There's a 299 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: difference between saying, man, Todd Bowles needs to do a 300 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: better job. That's a fair statement, different statement than Todd 301 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: Bowles should be fired. And we'll keep breaking this down. 302 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: Let's get in the other game, because tonight we have 303 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 2: the game of the century, of the millennium, of the week. 304 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 2: We have the forty nine ers and we have the Seahawks. 305 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: The winner take all on the number one seed in 306 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: the NFC. We'll break it down for you next seas 307 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz hanging out with them bucking 308 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: fits on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 309 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 5: Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire 310 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 5: with Jason McIntyre. 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All Right, So we have the matchup 349 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: of the Millennium tonight, the number one seed on the 350 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: line between Seattle and San Francisco, and amazingly Buck just 351 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: a reminder for everybody, the super Bowl is in San Francisco, 352 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: so should the forty nine ers win tonight, they would 353 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: not have to leave their home stadium for the duration 354 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: of this thing, so they could actually get all the 355 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: way to the super Bowl and be playing at home. 356 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: It's wild that though these you and I have talked, 357 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: it's wild that this game is for the number one 358 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: seed and I'm not even sure the best team in 359 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: the NFC is in it. 360 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: Like, I get that they got. 361 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: There, and I get that the Rams didn't, but this 362 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: is going to be a huge moment for Seattle or 363 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: San Francisco to really control their playoff path moving forward 364 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: in a way that we rarely see coming down to 365 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: this day in the season, especially with the Super Bowl 366 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: being at San fran. 367 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 4: I believe, if I'm not mistaken, I was listening to 368 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 4: the tail end of Alex and I think it was 369 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: Tracy's sad her own with her today. 370 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: That is the our lead in that we enjoy very much. 371 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 4: So I was listening to them talk about it, and 372 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 4: they said that San Francisco, should they get home field advantage. 373 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: Would be at home until week. 374 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: Two of next year if they were able to win 375 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 4: successfully throughout the course of this So San Francisco has 376 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 4: everything to play for tonight. And yet I feel pretty 377 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 4: good about Seattle because the idea that Trent Williams is 378 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 4: not going to play in this game the one thing 379 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 4: that could interrupt or potentially right, they haven't officially ruled 380 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 4: him out yet, if I'm not mistaken, I know they 381 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 4: called up a tackle from the practice squad just in case, 382 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 4: because they're going to give it a go with him 383 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 4: in pregame warm up. So we'll keep an eye out 384 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 4: on inactives for you and let you know what we 385 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 4: think or what will happen and who will be in 386 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 4: and who will be out for this Game of the Millennium, 387 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: as Jason Fitz called it. But if Trent Williams does 388 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 4: not play in this game, and even if Trent Williams is, 389 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: you know, a fraction of himself, the best left tackling 390 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: football perpetually until the end of time. It seems Seattle. 391 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 4: That seems like the one place that can knock Rock 392 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 4: Party out of this just incredible run of football that 393 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 4: he's been playing. I anticipated being a fun game. I 394 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 4: think did I hear somebody say earlier and I think 395 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 4: it was on Fox Sports that Sam Darnold has the 396 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 4: best win percentage of any quarterback in football since he 397 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 4: took over the starting job in Minnesota. 398 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 2: My god, I mean that would make sense given what 399 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: we saw last year. And look, I think that's the 400 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: other interesting angle to this game, Buck, because this game 401 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: becomes immediately look for ever since March, I have said 402 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 2: loudly on every platform I'm on here in Yahoo Sports, 403 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: I have said loudly, repeatedly, the Vikings letting Sam darnoald 404 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: out of the building was a massive mistake. And to me, 405 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 2: when your roster is fourteen and three, when you got 406 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: a fourteen and three roster and you have a quarterback 407 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: that has not been able to stay on the field 408 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: and stay healthy that you don't really know is going 409 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: to be the guy you think they might be, but 410 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: you're not sure and you haven't enough of him. I 411 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: don't want to trust a Super Bowl window roster with 412 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: a young quarterback that's played so little that he's essentially 413 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: a rookie that may or may not be able to 414 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: stay on the field. That was my preseason prediction, and 415 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: Vikings fans have destroyed me for months saying it doesn't 416 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: matter because all Sam Donald's gonna do is losing a 417 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: big game and we don't need that JJ's going to 418 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: grow and be fine. 419 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 3: Well, is jay z going to grow and be fine? 420 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: We still don't really know if JJ is the answer, right, Like, 421 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 2: we haven't seen enough. He hasn't been on the field enough. 422 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 2: When he has been on the field, it's been okay 423 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: at times, it's been bad at times. It's just sort 424 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: of what you expect from a young quarterback that's growing. 425 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: So I still don't know if JJ's the answer. And 426 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: in the meantime, Sam Donald's gone over here in just 427 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: one and one and one and one, and to that point, 428 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 2: you can't certainly it's fair to look at the dip 429 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: in his play over the last month, like Sam Donald 430 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: has not played as well over the last month. If 431 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: he goes out today and balls out and Seattle gets 432 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: the number one seed in the entire NFC, Vikings fans 433 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: y'all got to eat some crow because you've been saying 434 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: loudly that you weren't w to even keep him in 435 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: the room simply because he didn't play well enough in 436 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: the two games you needed him to play the best 437 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: in last year. You made that into a massive statement 438 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: about what he's capable of moving forward. He has a 439 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: chance to disprove that narrative. 440 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: Right now well. 441 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 4: And the idea that I mean he has to do it, 442 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: I don't think he has to do it right. 443 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 3: He just has to not screw it up. 444 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: In this particular situation because defensively, the Seahawks have the 445 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 4: better of the two units at every level, right I 446 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 4: mean San Francisco dealing with injuries. It's a tribute to 447 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 4: them that they're here in the first place. But they're 448 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 4: not you know, they are not the same. I would say, 449 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: I think San Francisco obviously has an incredible offense right 450 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 4: now that they've been playing at a very very high level, 451 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: and they've been feasting on bad opponents, and that's fine. 452 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 4: You play the competition that's in front of you, and 453 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: all they've done is beat them down. So I have 454 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: no nothing bad to say or no way to discredit, 455 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 4: nor would I try what San Francisco has done to 456 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: get to this point. But Seattle is the better football team, right. 457 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 4: Seattle's defense is the cheat code here, and so Sam 458 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 4: Donald in a running game and a great defense and 459 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: JSN it really is just kind of like, all right, 460 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 4: can you just try and not do too much and 461 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 4: make a couple of plays when we need you to most, 462 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 4: and we'll try and keep you upright as best as 463 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 4: humanly possible, but just don't put the ball in harm's way. 464 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: I think this is not Sam Donald, just Sam Darnald 465 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 4: just has to be Sam Darnald. Like, it doesn't have 466 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: to be anything more or less than that. It doesn't 467 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 4: have to be a career defining moment, it doesn't have 468 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 4: to be some kind of breakout performance. It just has 469 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 4: to be okay, just be fine and we'll do our 470 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 4: jobs around you. And I think that's the winning formula 471 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 4: for Seattle. I think that's why they're here. I think 472 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 4: that's why they have thirteen wins on the season. They 473 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 4: just do enough to do their jobs around the quarterback. 474 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 4: And the quarterback is not you know, he's not putting 475 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 4: them in in disadvantageous positions because he's not having to 476 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: press in a lot of these situation. Now, if you've 477 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: got Sam Donald the press, you probably win the game. 478 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 4: And at that point it becomes an indictment of Sam Darnald. 479 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 4: But that's not what he's done all season long. He 480 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: hasn't had to seattle set him up for success well. 481 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: And to that end, what you're basically saying is Sam 482 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: Donald needs to be a game manager, which, as we've 483 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: talked about before, is not a bad word. 484 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 3: It's not a bad frame remotely. 485 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's to me, all right, we just need 486 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 2: to make sure that we maximize O. Look, if your 487 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: argument is well, when there's pressure in his face and 488 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: when they start getting up the middle and it's a 489 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: big game and he's playing the best defenses, he doesn't 490 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: play as well. We're describing almost every quarterback, even Tom 491 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: Brady struggled at times. God forbid anyone say anything negative 492 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: about terrific Tom. Even Tom Brady struggled sometimes when there 493 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 2: was junk at his feet. Like every quarterback takes some 494 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: sort of a step back. So yeah, certainly Sam Donald 495 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: hasn't played well enough in some of these key moments. 496 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: I'm old enough to remember when people said Peyton Manning 497 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: couldn't win a Super Bowl because he didn't know how 498 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: to win a big game. I'm old enough to remember 499 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: when people said Peyton Manning wasn't even worth the first 500 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 2: overall pick. This was a real conversation because he couldn't 501 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: beat Florida when he was at Tennessee. 502 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: Like, that's the real thing people were trying to say. 503 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: So every single time that somebody comes in and says, well, 504 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: he can't win a big one, how many real opportunities. 505 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: So we're going to make a sweeping generalization about a 506 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: player's ability to play under pressure. 507 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 3: Based on one or two games. 508 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: Oh okay, to me, it bothers me just as much 509 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: as was when we see, well that guy can't play 510 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: in the cold. Okay, in his entire career, he's played 511 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: three games in the cold and they haven't gone well. Like, okay, 512 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 2: there's so much extra context to this. So yeah, if 513 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: Sam Donald goes out and he loses Seattle the game, 514 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: then he deserves all the carnage that will come from that. 515 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: If he comes out and Seattle wins that game, whether 516 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 2: it's because of him or not. If he comes out 517 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: and Seattle wins that game at some point at least 518 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 2: if you're everybody else, every single team that chose not 519 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 2: to sign Sam Donald and the Vikings that chose to 520 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: let him walk out the door, you got to look 521 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: around and say, even if he's just a game manager, 522 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: why are my coaches not good enough to let him 523 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: manage the game the way that will help him win 524 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: football games. That's the question I can't get an answer to. 525 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: We'll get you an update on this game, Martin Weiss. 526 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: Get us caught up. What's going on across the scoreboard? 527 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: Right now, my friend. 528 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: Right now? 529 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 6: A lot of rain. It's been coming down in Tampa. 530 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 6: It's been nasty low. It looks like it's coming up 531 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 6: a bit. There you go. That is a live sound 532 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 6: from Raymond James Stadium in Tampa. Has Tampa rushes for 533 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 6: a first down one five on the ground for the 534 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 6: Buccaneers with just over under two minutes left in the 535 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 6: third quarters, thirteen to ten, Tampa in the lead. This 536 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 6: has been slow going for Carolina on the offensive side 537 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 6: of the ball. One hundred and seventeen yards passing for 538 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 6: Bryce Young, nineteen yards rushing Shuba Hubbard and Rico o'dowdle 539 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 6: with ten apiece Bryce Young has minus one to round 540 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 6: up that nineteen yards, and they do, but Carolina still 541 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 6: trailing by only a touchdown. The only time that they've 542 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 6: scored Baker Mayfield through an interception, which pretty much set 543 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 6: Bryce Young on up for a You know, he was 544 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 6: a thirteen yard touchdown pass to Tommy Tremble. They were 545 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 6: right in the red zones. Baker avoids or attempts to 546 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 6: avoid a sack. Looks like he's going to the complete pass, 547 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 6: hit it defender right in the back. If Mike Jackson 548 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 6: had turned around, I would have been or yeah, Scott 549 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 6: had turned around, they've been a different play. Later tonight, 550 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 6: we'll see the San Francisco forty nine Ers and the 551 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 6: Seattle Seahawks playing for the one seed in the NFC. 552 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: Loser to that game will be a wild card. 553 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 6: Sean McVay plans to play his starters against the Cardinals 554 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 6: regardings regardless of the seeding. That know, both of those 555 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 6: NFC West, the loser of tonight and the Rams will 556 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 6: be wild card teams in the NFC playoffs. TJ Wide 557 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 6: has no limitations, expected to play Sunday Night against the Ravens, 558 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 6: and Josh Allen a limited participant on Friday. He's expected 559 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 6: to play that the second longest active star streak alive 560 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 6: in the NFL, well technically the second active longest. He's 561 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 6: got one twenty one going right now, the longest Philip 562 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 6: Rivers with two forty three, so he might have the 563 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 6: first longest to Philip Rivers. The side he's going to 564 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 6: go back to retirement Fellas back to you. 565 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 2: He's buck rising on Jason fitzbuck and fits hanging out 566 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: with you on Fox Sports Radio. I'm not one to 567 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: ever really care about the refs one where the other 568 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: I don't. I've lived through some weird calls. Carolina has 569 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 2: now been screwed on back to back drives. 570 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: There was a. 571 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 2: Pass interference call on the deep ball down field that 572 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: their feet clearly got tangled up, and I don't know 573 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 2: how you could possibly call pass interference. And they called 574 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: an offensive pass interference on some battling at the line 575 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 2: of scribbage that got ted McMillan open on what was 576 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: a long completion. 577 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 3: They called OPI on that. 578 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: So two pass interference calls go the wrong way for 579 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 2: the Panthers as they trail in this game thirteen to seven. Bucket, 580 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: the other big game that we got Sunday night football 581 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: is just two trash teams competing for a shot to 582 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: get into the playoffs. I love how they bracket it. 583 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 2: They give us two trash teams to start the weekend, 584 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: two trash teams to finish the weekend. We get Steelers 585 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: taking on the Ravens, and I just don't know what 586 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: to make, Like what truly solves everything? Because if you're 587 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: a Ravens fan and you make the playoffs, but she 588 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: gets your ass kicked in the first round, was it 589 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: worth it? 590 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: I don't know. 591 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: If you're a Steelers fan and you make the playoffs 592 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: and you get your ass kicked in the first round, 593 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: I know the answer to that, right, Like Pittsburgh fans 594 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: are going to lose their minds if they don't make 595 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: the playoffs, Steelers fans are gonna lose their minds equally 596 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: if they make the playoffs and they simply lose in 597 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: the first round of this thing. So it just it 598 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: almost feels like delaying the inevitable out of this Sunday 599 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: night football game. 600 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: I know it's a rivalry game. 601 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: Lamar is going to play all of this great conversation 602 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: around what it means for both sides, but I don't 603 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: know that it actually like they say, winning cures everything 604 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: this Sunday night, I don't know that winning cures anything 605 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: for these two teams. 606 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: Disagree, disagree. 607 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 4: I think it depends very much on if the Ravens 608 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: are to win, how do they win and is it 609 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: something that can be sustainable through the postseason, because if 610 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 4: they all of a sudden, all of a sudden decide, 611 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 4: aren't enough of this crap, like enough of us getting 612 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: toute with it, enough of us not giving Derek Henry 613 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 4: sufficient carriers in the fourth quarter, Let's just go out 614 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 4: there and kick somebody's ass because we're the Baltimore Ravens 615 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 4: and we play tough, hard nose, physical football. If the 616 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 4: Ravens come out and look, they don't have to be 617 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 4: the explosive offense that was number one and Dvoa in 618 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 4: efficiency last year. That made us all think and convince 619 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 4: us that they were going to be the Super Bowl 620 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 4: champion this year because they were the odds on favorite 621 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 4: for the Super Bowl and as Super Bowl not just participants, 622 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: but to win the Super Bowl in twenty twenty. I 623 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 4: guess six technically, but at the end of the twenty 624 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 4: twenty five season. So if they turn it on and 625 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 4: they play a brand of football tonight that makes you 626 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: feel like, Okay, they can do that against anybody in 627 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 4: the AFC, then yeah, I would say winning cures everything 628 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 4: in that particular situation if you decide to actually stick 629 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 4: with the plan. The Steelers, I feel like, are way 630 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 4: more fraud because it's not just a and I'm not 631 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 4: saying that the Ravens don't have more issues than the indecision, 632 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: and we'll call it of the coaching staff or at 633 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 4: least the way that the coaching staff has handled the offense, 634 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: because the defense has just been objectively pedestrian this year. 635 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,239 Speaker 4: I don't want to say they've been bad. They've had 636 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: moments where they're good. I don't want to say they've 637 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 4: been good because they've had moments when they're awful. At 638 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 4: the start of the season, Pittsburgh, for what you're paying 639 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 4: on defense, juice not worth. The squeeze passing game without 640 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 4: DK Metcalf just non existent, and that was a huge 641 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 4: part of why the Steelers were able to have success 642 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 4: in the first time that these two teams played this season. 643 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers on the road is a wild card. It 644 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 4: used to sound like a threat. Now it sounds like 645 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 4: a delightful thing that you would love to see your 646 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 4: team hosting or getting to go on the road to 647 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh if they're able to win this. The only reason 648 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 4: that you would be concerned about that at all right 649 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 4: now is the weather depending on which team you are, 650 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 4: and who would end up having to go to Pittsburgh 651 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 4: if they were to win this game and have a 652 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 4: home field game during the wild card weekend. But I 653 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 4: think it's very different for both of these teams. 654 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: I think part of this, you know, when you look 655 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: at it, the I'll stay consistent. Right for me, I 656 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: can take hope when I can figure out the why. 657 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: So why are the Steelers this bad this year? I mean, 658 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: they're devoid of the right talent and the right places 659 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: all over the place. I don't think they have any 660 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: long term solutions on the offensive side of the ball. 661 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: I'm not sure they have any of the right coaches 662 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: in place for that either. I don't think that systematically 663 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: they do much of anything that it just scares everybody. 664 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: I don't think there's an easy fix to the Steelers. 665 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: The Steelers kind of are who they are, and that 666 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: so they're going to be every year the Ravens. I 667 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: can turn around and say, Okay, the Ravens have talent. 668 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: We know that the Ravens have a talented roster. I 669 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: think that this offseason it's probably pretty fair that they're 670 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: going to make a defensive coordinator change, or at least 671 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: look at it. They were very beat up on both 672 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: sides of the ball, and they never got a lot 673 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: of offensive continuity. So I didn't love the job that 674 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: Todd Mencott Munkin did as an offensive coordinator this year, 675 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: particularly looking at the fact that, to your point, all 676 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: of the rest of us are looking at it and saying, 677 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: why don't you give the ball to Derek Henry More? 678 00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: Everybody but Todd Munkin. 679 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: So I can figure out how when it comes to 680 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: if I had to make a PowerPoint presentation today on 681 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: how to fix the Ravens, I can at least figure 682 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: out what my slides are going to be about. And 683 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: they're much easier to sort of figure out to me 684 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: than the Steelers. To your point, I don't feel great 685 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: like look the winner of this game. If the playoffs 686 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 2: were to start with the seeding as it sits right now, 687 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: it could change but as it sits right now, the 688 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: winner of this game on Sunday Night is going to 689 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: take the Houston Texans on you can give you can 690 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: give Derrick Henry the ball forty five times. Houston is 691 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: going to absolutely sandwich you and destroy you. 692 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: When you do that. 693 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: So I think the matchup is a nightmare. I don't 694 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: think either of these teams is going to win a 695 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: playoff game. I think, frankly, both of them are more 696 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: likely to get blown out in the first round of 697 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: the playoffs than they are to actually win a playoff game. 698 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: Not being said, I also don't think again, I'll go 699 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: back to what we said earlier about the way fan 700 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: bases feel about coaches and Todd Bowles. To me, the 701 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: answer that doesn't mean you throw everything away and say 702 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: this all just sucks, We're screwed. This whole team is 703 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: just awful, burn out to the ground. To me, it 704 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: more means you look at it and say, Okay, what 705 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: do we need to do. We need to sit down 706 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: with coach Harball, we need to sit down with coach Tomlin, 707 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: and we need to get really set answers on how's 708 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: it going. 709 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 3: To be different? 710 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: Like, what are we going to do to change this process. 711 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: There isn't much that the Steelers can do to change 712 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: the process until they can get younger at the quarterback 713 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: position and fix a lot of things that they have 714 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: across their offense. Their defense, to your point, widely paid 715 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 2: and underperformed, So there aren't a. 716 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: Lot of easy solutions to that. 717 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: If I'm sitting down with the Ravens and Harball, his 718 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: answers are pretty clear on what needs to be done 719 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: to fix this thing. So I don't think you throw 720 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: the baby out with the bathwater in Baltimore. I'm not 721 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 2: sure they'll be as patient or can be as patient 722 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: when it comes to the Steelers. 723 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 4: We just got the inactives for Seahawks Niners and Trent 724 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: Williams is officially out, as as Ricky Pearsall, so the 725 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 4: shorthanded Niners, their run of shorthandedness continues. I would pick 726 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 4: the Seahawks based on the Trent Williams news alone. 727 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: Does that make Mike McDonald the coach of the year 728 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: Like we keep talking about Shanahan as coach of the 729 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 2: year if he wins this game and has the number 730 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: one seed, But Mike McDonald out here, not just being 731 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: in the Dubie Brothers, also giving us the number one 732 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: seed in the NFC with a defense that we all 733 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: say is an absolute nightmare, a defense that is so 734 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: good that him leaving Baltimore is part of the reason 735 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: that the Ravens defense has. 736 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: Never been the same. 737 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: Like, I'm over here, who Michael McDonald coach of the year? 738 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: Come on, why don't we talk about that next? We'll 739 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: figure that out. 740 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: Next, we'll figure out who the coach of the year 741 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: should be. 742 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: He's Buck Rising. 743 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: I'm Jason fitz bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. 744 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 745 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: This was really just my way of making sure America 746 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: finds out that your cat is gonna be honest. 747 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: You lobbing it, that'd be like, it's a slur. No, because. 748 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 4: Because I value my time, because I don't want to 749 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: take a dumb animal out in the elements to. 750 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 3: Watch it eat its own poop. Of course, I'm a 751 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 3: cap you scoop poop, You scoop poop. No, the dog 752 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 3: is too bit No, I don't scoop it. 753 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 4: I have one of these fantastic liter robots that does 754 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: job for me. 755 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: Again, my god, I stand by that. 756 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: He is Boogie but he's Buck Rising, and I'm Jason 757 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: Fitz's bucket fits on Fox Sports Radio. At least he 758 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: came to work with closing today. 759 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 3: If you've been following us on Fox Sports Radio. 760 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 2: All week, let's see Tuesday night was the debut of 761 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: the Terry cloth Robe that started to mail it in 762 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: from Buck Rising. They continued all the way to Two 763 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: Pros and a Cup of Jail, where it was just 764 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: the Terry cloth robe, full the dude, a full big 765 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: lebowski from Buck Rising. But today he's actually worn clothes 766 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 2: to work. So I feel like that's that's progress in 767 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: and of itself. Buck, I'm very proud of you. 768 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 3: If you let me do radio from home, I'm not 769 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 3: going to wear clothes. That's just the rules. Okay, Like 770 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 3: that's just the rules. Now. 771 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 4: Today I had to fly to Jacksonville. I had to 772 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 4: well got to because the lovely people at iHeart Jacksonville 773 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 4: were able to accommodate my schedule and our show here 774 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 4: to let me do the show from Jacksonville, where I 775 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 4: am to cover the season finale between the Tennessee Titans 776 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 4: and Jacksonville tomorrow at EverBank Field or EverBank Stadium, whatever 777 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 4: the hell it's called at this point in time. So yeah, 778 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 4: if I am to be out in public, then yeah, 779 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 4: I will dress appropriately. But if you're gonna let me 780 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 4: sit in my office and do it at five am 781 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 4: to fill in for the guys on two Pros, then yeah, 782 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 4: it's a bathrobe. 783 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: Nothing else. I don't make the rules. 784 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: Okay, just a lot of chest hair, a lot of 785 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: chat like an. 786 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 3: Uncomfortable what did you think was gonna happen? 787 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a it's just a lot like 788 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 2: I mean. 789 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: You know, have you ever seen forty year old version? 790 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: Like maybe we just Kelly clarkson that. Maybe we just 791 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: go in and just Kelly clarkson it. 792 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: Uh, didn't I lose a bit? 793 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 4: Were you still working locally in Nashville when I lost 794 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 4: that bet where I had to wax my legs? 795 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: Oh? 796 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 2: I do vaguely remember that? And did you did you 797 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 2: wax the legs? 798 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 3: I did? Well, I waxed oleg How was that? I didn't? 799 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 4: It was awful, it was it was unpleasant. I feel 800 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 4: like I would not enjoy doing that too. 801 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 2: My chest I'm thinking about, isn't getting leaser hair removal 802 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 2: on my legs? 803 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 3: Because I want to start getting tattoos down my legs. 804 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,479 Speaker 2: And so the fun fact is I shaved my arms 805 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 2: every day, and so, you know, because if you shave 806 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 2: your arms and flop a little low low on them, 807 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: the tattoos look much better. And it's funny how many 808 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 2: times people are like what and then they try it 809 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: and they realize that. 810 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. The reason that you know, when I walk around, 811 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 3: people are like, oh my god, are your tattoos now? 812 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 3: They're no, they're over a decade old. 813 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 2: But if you shave your arms and flop a little 814 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: lo low on them, all of a sudden, you are 815 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: silky smooth, and that works. 816 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 3: I don't do that in the. 817 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 7: Shower, Like, where do you shave your arms? 818 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 3: I shave my arms in the shower. 819 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I shaved my arms every barely, Like I 820 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: don't need to shave my face more than you know, 821 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: twice a week. I barely grow facial hair. But I 822 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: shaved my arms every day. Yeah, just and then boom, 823 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: arms are shaved. In fact, for a long time, when 824 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: I only had one arm tattooed, I shaved one arm 825 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 2: and not the other, which you would think is weird, 826 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: But nobody would ever notice that until I point out, Oh, Yeah, no, 827 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 2: I shaved their arm and like, oh my god, one 828 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 2: arm has hair on it. One doesn't see I shave 829 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: my arms in the shower. I don't want to shave 830 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: my legs though, Like that's a lot of extra work 831 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 2: every day. So I think I'm gonna get laser hair 832 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 2: removal first. 833 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 4: I just have a visual now Ian of him in 834 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 4: the shower or you know, putting one leg daintily up 835 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 4: on the side of his bathtub as he shaves his legs. 836 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 4: Where is my little pony tattoo that he's thinking about 837 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 4: getting on his left quad? 838 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, just putting it up on. 839 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm not very flexible though, so there'd be a grunt 840 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 2: as I like flop the leg up on the on 841 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 2: the soap shelf. There definitely being sounds as you age. 842 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 4: This sounds like a situation where we're going to have 843 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 4: to send you medical help at a certain point in time. 844 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 3: You're going to go to put a. 845 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 4: Leg up, shave your legs as you get older with 846 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 4: these tattoos, and you're gonna eat it and then somebody's 847 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 4: gonna have to come rescue naked and shaved in the 848 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 4: shower because you're old and you fall in and I 849 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 4: can't get up. 850 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 2: Life right again. Laser hair removal. 851 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: This is why. 852 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 2: All right, so the laser hair removal, I don't have 853 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: the problem. And then to your point, when I get 854 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 2: my little pony and transformers put on my leg, it 855 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: looks perfect. I'm not kidding, my little pony, don't at me. 856 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do that. But I do want to continue. 857 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: I want to continue the ink all the way down. 858 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: I just don't want to do my ribs in my 859 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: stomach because then if I ever decide to just let 860 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 2: myself go and get fat, I don't want I don't 861 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: want to have to show people the tattoo as it 862 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 2: goes down and then be like, by the way, this 863 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 2: is this is my my fat tattoo. I know my 864 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 2: fat too in that in that you fat too, My 865 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 2: fat too, That's what That's what happens. 866 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 7: Like fat tat, you're fat too, which is better? 867 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 2: Oh, fat tat is pretty good too. I'm just like, 868 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: this is what happens if you're in particularly good shape 869 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 2: when you get a tattoo on your like ribs or 870 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 2: your stomach, and then all of a sudden, a few 871 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: years later, you know, maybe maybe McDonald's just won the 872 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: war for a few years, and all of a sudden, 873 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: now that you know that, that sweet look an Optimus 874 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 2: Prime is. 875 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,919 Speaker 3: Now ooh to miss Prime. 876 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 2: Like, that's a different that's a much different it's much 877 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 2: different vibe. 878 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 3: And look, I'm just. 879 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: Trying to make Buck picture as much of me naked 880 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: right now as he possibly can. You're welcome America. By 881 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: the way, it's sixteen to seven now the Buccaneers have. 882 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 3: The lead and the ball. 883 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 2: The Panthers look like maybe we're trying to execute a 884 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: flea flicker. I don't know about Rico Dowdell, who already, 885 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 2: by the way, gained these seven yards needed to get 886 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 2: a one million dollar bonus today. 887 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 3: Happy Week eighteen. 888 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: To him, it was flipping the ball back to Bryce showing, 889 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: but the ball didn't get there. Tampa has and Tampa 890 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 2: has recovered it. They're now driving with about seven and 891 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 2: a half to go, and it should be noted they're 892 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 2: up by two scores, so Buck, we could end up 893 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: with this nightmare scenario where we're all going to be 894 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 2: watching the Falcons versus the Saints, and an eight to 895 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 2: nine team is going to go into the playoffs. 896 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: Some of the NFC South oh gross. Yeah, but the 897 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 3: NFC South is good for that. We were supposed to 898 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 3: talk about Coach of. 899 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 4: The Year here and why Mike McDonald was going to 900 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 4: win it or why he should in it if he 901 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 4: is able to win over the way, Yes, you got 902 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 4: very distracted because you're self involved, and we started talking 903 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 4: about you, and so everything else fell by the wayside. 904 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 4: I understand the behavior of somebody who is an extreme narcissist, 905 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 4: but I will not be watching the Falcons and the Saints. 906 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 4: I'll just I'll get the update on my phone. I 907 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 4: don't want to put myself so that to watch you. 908 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 3: We're going to give him the Coach of the year. 909 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 3: Who's your coach of the year. We can't less than 910 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:24,959 Speaker 3: a minute? 911 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 4: Da go ahead, Noahan, If he wins it, it's McDonald. 912 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 4: If he wins it, I think it's pretty cut and 913 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 4: dry there. I mean, at least that's where my vote 914 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 4: would go. Mike Rabel's going to win it either way, 915 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 4: it seems. As long as the Patriots. 916 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 3: Don't collapse tomorrow, Patriots play the Dolphins and the season Dolphins. Yeah, Patriots, as. 917 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 4: Long as the Patriots don't look like, you know, complete 918 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 4: total frauds. In Week eighteen against the Dolphins. Mike Vrabel's 919 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 4: the coach of the Year. So I think both of 920 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 4: these coaches are you know, they're not competing for that prize, 921 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 4: but you understand. 922 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we need a new award because it's not just 923 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 2: supposed to be with the team that sucks that suddenly 924 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 2: doesn't more coming at you, bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. 925 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio with games going 926 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 2: on right now and all eyes on what it means 927 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 2: for the playoffs. There are a bunch of teams that 928 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 2: have already started to put all eyes towards next season, 929 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 2: and according to one NFL insider, it looks like change 930 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 2: is already coming for the Las Vegas Raiders. 931 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 3: He's Buck Rising. 932 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 2: I'm Jason fitzbuckham Fits on Fox Sports Radio. Look over 933 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 2: the course of the next couple of days, plenty of 934 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 2: people are gonna come out and they're gonna lose their jobs. 935 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 2: I want to be clear that nobody on this show 936 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 2: or any show, is ever rooting for any of these 937 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: guys to lose their jobs. And I also want to 938 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 2: be clear that anytime a coach change is made, it's 939 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 2: not just about the head coach. It's about everybody else 940 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 2: that works under that head coach. It's about people you've 941 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 2: never heard of. Sometimes it's about administrative assistance. Sometimes it's 942 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: about training people. All of these things people that are 943 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 2: not making millions of dollars. So I just want to 944 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: point out that there's a very human element to any firing, 945 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: so I proceed with caution with. 946 00:41:59,080 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 3: All of it. 947 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 2: However, Jordan and Schultz, who obviously very known NFL insider, 948 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 2: has just tweeted out in the last minute that the 949 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 2: expectation is that head coach Pete Carroll will be one 950 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 2: and done in Las Vegas, whether that ends up being 951 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 2: a firing or a retirement, the Raiders coaching search is 952 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 2: expected to cast a wide net with Tom Brady involved. 953 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 2: And look, Buck, this does not surprise me at all. 954 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 2: I absolutely expected this. In fact, I'll be honest, I 955 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 2: think I was the first person nationally to call for 956 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 2: this on Yahoo on my show. I was the first person. 957 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 3: Who explained months ago why this had to happen. 958 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 2: This is all about the timing the Raiders believed coming 959 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 2: into this season, and I think this is interesting. I 960 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: talked to Raheem Moster, who plays for the team after 961 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 2: week one, and we had an interview with him, and 962 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 2: as we were talking about it, Raheem told me, I've 963 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: never played for a team that thought they could rebuild 964 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 2: and win at the same time. But the Raiders believe 965 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 2: they can do that. This is going to be interesting 966 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 2: to watch. Well, they were wrong. They couldn't win and 967 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: rebuild it at the same time. And now I think, 968 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: for the first time in many, many, many years, the 969 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 2: organization is not trying to pretend that there're anything other 970 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: than rebuilding. So if you are rebuilding and tomorrow if 971 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 2: the Raiders lose, that is one of several scenarios, but 972 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 2: the easiest scenario. They will end up with the first 973 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 2: overall pick in the draft. The minute you know you're 974 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 2: so bad you have the number one pick, Well, now 975 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 2: you got to think about time, right, you got to 976 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 2: think about time frame, and you. 977 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 3: Got to think about how you're going to rebuild this thing. 978 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 2: And a rebuild form the number one overall pick, to 979 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 2: me is a three four five year process. And if 980 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,439 Speaker 2: you're starting a three year process to rebuilding, I don't 981 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 2: see anyway Pete Carroll was ever going to be able 982 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 2: to stick around for that, even if he'd done a 983 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 2: great job. On top of that, it's been an abject disaster. 984 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 2: So I think this is actually a brilliant move by 985 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 2: an organization to just stand up. Even though the Raiders 986 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 2: are going to be paying fifty million dollars next year 987 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 2: to coaches that no longer work for the team, Who 988 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 2: cares that's Mark Davis's money. I don't care if I'm 989 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 2: the Raiders. I only care about one thing. Every single 990 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 2: person in this organization, from the janitor to the head coach, 991 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 2: speak the language of whoever that number one pick is. 992 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,919 Speaker 2: Because I want to make sure, unlike the team you cover, 993 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 2: with the Titans and cam Ward, then I'm not setting 994 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 2: my quarterback back from day one. I want to make 995 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 2: sure everybody in the building is squarely on the same schedule, 996 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 2: timeframe and analysis of making sure that my quarterback can 997 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 2: be successful with the number one overall pick. 998 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, to your point, I mean that's exactly what the 999 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 4: Titans should have done before they drafted cam Ward. They 1000 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 4: decided they were going to keep Brian Callahan, They fired 1001 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 4: Ran Carthon, they hired Mike Borganzi. Brian Callahan didn't make it. 1002 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 4: He made it six games into the season before they 1003 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 4: fired him, which as we've talked about before, meant you 1004 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 4: were really not that in on him to begin with, 1005 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 4: and instead you just decided to saddle cam Ward with 1006 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 4: that nonsense and have additional adversity that he was going 1007 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 4: to have to go through in his rookie season. Oh 1008 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 4: by the way, I don't know if you saw this yesterday, 1009 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 4: but the Titans again for like the seventeenth time since 1010 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, have restructured their front office organization, which makes 1011 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 4: me want to pull my hair out, but I think 1012 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 4: at least this time around a decision. The decision that 1013 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 4: they made was the one that is in the best 1014 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 4: interest of everybody. Now to the Raiders, they would be 1015 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 4: with players currently under contract next year, the sixth youngest 1016 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 4: team in football. They would have the most projected cap 1017 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 4: space according to SPA Track, And again we don't know 1018 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 4: exactly all the different things that will happen over the 1019 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,439 Speaker 4: course of the next couple of months that will see 1020 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 4: the cap space between for example, Vegas and Tennessee, who 1021 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 4: also has a ton of cap space fluctuate. But they 1022 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 4: have as much cap space available as anybody next year. 1023 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 4: They will be eating a fair amount of dead cat 1024 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 4: next year, but that's just something that they've already had 1025 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 4: on the books, and they'll have to work their way through. 1026 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 3: The Max Crosby element of this. 1027 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 4: Is interesting to see whether he is somebody who's going 1028 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 4: to want to continue to play for the Raiders or 1029 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 4: if moving on from Pete Carroll, which hasn't officially happened 1030 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 4: yet as we sit here, but it sounds like that's 1031 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 4: the direction that we're heading in. And you've been hinting 1032 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 4: at that, not even hinting at that, saying that you 1033 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 4: believe that is the thing that was going to happen 1034 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 4: for I think weeks at this point in time. So 1035 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 4: cap Space likely the number one overall pick and the 1036 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 4: sixth youngest roster in football, with a general manager in 1037 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 4: John spy Tech from Tampa Bay by way of Tampa Bay, 1038 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 4: who is going to now have a situation where he 1039 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 4: doesn't have to sit around and wait for a coach 1040 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 4: in waiting. Pete Carroll was there. I'm sure Pete Carroll 1041 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 4: did the job to the best of his abilities. It 1042 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 4: fell apart, it was nonsense, and now John spy Tech 1043 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 4: will have the ability to get his top pick and 1044 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 4: coach on the same page at the same time and 1045 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 4: have the best possible situation moving forward. 1046 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 3: Will that fix everything? 1047 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 4: Obviously we can't predict that, but it is it is 1048 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 4: I think in the best interest of the Raiders right now, 1049 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 4: and it's you know, it's nothing but respect for Pete Carroll. 1050 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 3: It just they tried something. 1051 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 4: It felt like in theory it should have worked far 1052 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 4: better than it did, from Chip Kelly to Tom Brady 1053 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 4: and the whole nine yards, and it just it never 1054 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 4: went the way that it went. And it's it's one 1055 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 4: of those things, though, Fitzie, Like, I'm going to ask 1056 00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 4: you this because you're a Raiders fan, and then I 1057 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 4: want to ask you a question about something else that 1058 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 4: Jordan Schultz put out there about a half hour ago 1059 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 4: that I missed and is almost as interesting as the 1060 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 4: Pete Carroll stuff. They drafted Ashton Genty in the first 1061 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,720 Speaker 4: round this year. Do you think that was a mistake? 1062 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 2: Looking at the result as it sits right now, it's 1063 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 2: really easy for me to say yes. When they drafted him, 1064 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 2: I did not have a problem with it. 1065 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 3: Why do you think now it was a mistake. 1066 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 2: Going into this season, I thought their offensive line was 1067 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 2: going to be a lot better than it was. Really 1068 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 2: I believed, and this is in the weeds. But so 1069 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 2: I won't bother everybody with names. I will tell you this. 1070 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 2: I believe that they're left tackle, their left guard, and 1071 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 2: their center were all going to be pretty good players, 1072 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 2: which left the light right side of the line susceptible. 1073 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 2: But hey can figure it out. So give me a 1074 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 2: running back that can help behind what is maybe a 1075 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 2: little bit subpar offensive line and make it work. 1076 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 3: That's what I loved. 1077 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 2: The left tackle went down with injury, the left guard 1078 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 2: turned out to be terrible, the team never liked the 1079 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 2: center that I thought was going to be the center 1080 00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 2: who has moved to guard, and everything got terrible. So 1081 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 2: it ended up being as one NFL media person that 1082 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 2: actually called a game on a broadcast. A former offensive 1083 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 2: lineman told me it was the worst this offensive line 1084 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 2: for the. 1085 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 3: Raiders this year was the. 1086 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 2: Worst professional football offensive line he'd ever seen in this life. 1087 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 2: So I think knowing that and then understanding that you 1088 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 2: just burned a year with a rookie running back, you 1089 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 2: burned a year that for absolutely nothing, it makes it 1090 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 2: really difficult to just justify there's no one player that 1091 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 2: was going to be selected there was going to fix 1092 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 2: their problem. 1093 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 3: But man, it's rich for a running back. I see that. 1094 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 2: I understand that, but that was my logic when the 1095 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 2: selection was made. 1096 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 4: See to me, it's not rich for a running back 1097 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 4: if your team is better equipped to handle the running 1098 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 4: back situation, like if you are close enough to put 1099 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 4: a player like that on your roster, then that makes sense. 1100 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 3: Right. 1101 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 4: And to your point, they clearly thought their offensive line 1102 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 4: situation was going to be better than it was. I 1103 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 4: don't think anybody thought that they would be as bad. 1104 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 4: I mean, they are just they are border line, you know, 1105 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 4: UFL quality offensive line, and that even might kind to 1106 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 4: them at this point in time. So it's like, because 1107 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 4: I thought people started to make it a conversation about 1108 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 4: positional value, and I just think that that's like that 1109 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 4: ignores individual team's circumstances. Where it makes sense for the 1110 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 4: Falcons to take Bjohn Robinson when they did, and it 1111 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 4: doesn't make sense for the Raiders to take Ashton Genty 1112 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 4: when they did. 1113 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 3: Those are two very specific. 1114 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,399 Speaker 4: Situations as far as your roster construction goes. So we'll 1115 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 4: see what well we assume that this is going to 1116 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,760 Speaker 4: be the case, though the Raiders have not made anything official. 1117 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 3: I would be surprised. 1118 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 4: If they like outright fired him, right like Pete Carroll 1119 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 4: is going to get the opportunity to be like, yeah, 1120 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm going to move on right. 1121 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they would prefer did he retire. If 1122 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 2: he retires, they don't know him the rest of the money. 1123 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 2: If he gets fired, they owe him the rest of money. 1124 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 2: So I'm sure what they're trying to do right now 1125 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 2: is figure outcause for anyone that doesn't know, coaching contracts 1126 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 2: fully guaranteed. So you know, I'm sure what Mark Davis 1127 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 2: is trying to do right now, much like they did 1128 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 2: when John Gruden stepped down, is negotiate a settle where hey, 1129 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 2: he can walk on his terms however they want to 1130 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 2: term it, but they'll come up with a dollar amount 1131 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 2: that gets him to walk. 1132 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 3: Away, hopefully if he retires. 1133 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 2: I would think that they're buying that retirement to some level. 1134 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,240 Speaker 4: So how about this thirty minutes ago from Jordan Schultz 1135 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 4: since we're on the subject of coaches sources, The league 1136 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 4: wide expectation is that the Browns are likely to make changes, 1137 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 4: and two time NFL Coach of the Year Kevin Stefanski 1138 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 4: is believed to be on the hottest seat in the organization. 1139 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 4: Sources believe he's either getting let go or could be 1140 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 4: a trade candidate, though the latter is considered unlikely. 1141 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 3: What do you make of that? 1142 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 2: Well, so here's the thing that doesn't no discredit to Jordan. 1143 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 2: I've worked with Jordan a bunch, and Jordan's very good. 1144 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 2: That doesn't match some of the things that I was 1145 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 2: told by other insiders as recent as a couple of 1146 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 2: months ago about sort of Cleveland and their expectations. So 1147 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 2: Brown's organ from what I've been told repeatedly by insiders 1148 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,040 Speaker 2: that are plugged in, the Browns organization, expected that this 1149 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 2: was going to be a very hard year and they 1150 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 2: expected to see growth from their young players. So even 1151 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 2: though the Browns have sucked, what hasn't sucked for them 1152 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 2: the youth, right, the youth movement for the Browns has 1153 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 2: looked good. So that's why Andrew Berry their GMS certainly 1154 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 2: would I would think would be safe. He's coming off 1155 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 2: of a home run draft class. Not sure what to 1156 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 2: make of Shador. We talk too much about Shador. The 1157 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 2: rest of that draft class looks really good. So Stefanski 1158 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 2: coach is a monster one hundred percent. So then you've 1159 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 2: got Stefanski that has been a part of the development 1160 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 2: of a young core of talent. I would still I 1161 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 2: hear it, and I think even the way Jordan worded that, 1162 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 2: I parse every word of an insider report right. So 1163 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 2: the expectations around the league are that Kevin Stefanski. So 1164 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 2: people think Kevin Stefanski is going to be like, well, 1165 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,879 Speaker 2: but do we really like we're not getting any sort 1166 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 2: of a read from from Cleveland themselves, because that's an 1167 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 2: expectation around the league. As think about that compared to 1168 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 2: his report on the Raiders, where it's the expectation is 1169 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,959 Speaker 2: that the Raiders will be one and done with Pete 1170 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 2: Carroll in Las Vegas. That's a much different report. So 1171 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 2: I think what he's telling you is people around the 1172 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,439 Speaker 2: league thinks, to fancy is gonna be going. 1173 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 3: Man, I can't read the hasm's mind. 1174 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 2: But I would be pretty surprised that would be a 1175 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 2: change from the things that I heard from insiders that 1176 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 2: were plugged in as recently as late November. 1177 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 4: I you know, again, I wouldn't pretend to know all 1178 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 4: the ins and outs of the Cleveland situation other than 1179 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 4: I did a game at Cleveland earlier in the year, 1180 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 4: and Kevin Stefanski did some of the most confusing things 1181 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 4: in game of a coach I've seen all year long, 1182 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 4: as far as the two point conversion plays and when 1183 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,840 Speaker 4: he chose to take shoud Or Sanders off the field 1184 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 4: in the middle of shoud Or. 1185 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 3: Sanders' best game. 1186 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 4: So I don't want to say, you know, just because 1187 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 4: I saw that one sample size, like, yeah, I can't imagine. 1188 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 3: A situation in which they would want to keep that guy. 1189 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 4: Though that was a pretty that was a pretty difficult 1190 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 4: thing for me to process in real time. And having 1191 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 4: watched the Tennessee Titans every game the year, as is 1192 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 4: my day to day responsibilities, it's I believe I've become 1193 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 4: an expert in the in the world of poor coaching 1194 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 4: decisions and mismanagement. So if Stefanski has been doing stuff 1195 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 4: like that all season long, I would. 1196 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 3: Completely understand if they moved on from that person. 1197 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 4: But again, I have just the prisoner prisoner of the 1198 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 4: moment uh situation which the Titans went to Cleveland beat 1199 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 4: the Browns even though Shador had a good game, and 1200 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 4: looking at Stefanski like that game was there for you 1201 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 4: to win, and you kind of just blew it bud, but. 1202 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 2: He is also a two time Coach of the Year, 1203 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 2: So I don't know what Here's what I do know. 1204 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 2: People around the league definitely respect the hell out of 1205 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski, Right That is that that is a how 1206 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 2: are you want to parse it out? It is a 1207 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 2: fact that smart minds across the NFL seem to respect. 1208 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 2: Like if Stefanski is actually a free agent, if he 1209 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,479 Speaker 2: gets fired, it's gonna take He's gonna have his pick. 1210 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 2: He's gonna have his pick of several good jobs across 1211 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 2: the league. The interesting thing about that pick is so 1212 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 2: much of it. And this is what you and I 1213 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 2: are going to hammer home. Talked about this, talk about 1214 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 2: this constantly with coaching churches. Actually, we'll do it next. 1215 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 2: There is one thing that matters more than you could 1216 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 2: possibly realize for every single team that needs a head coach. 1217 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 2: There is one thing that can get you eliminated from 1218 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 2: even being on their radar. We'll tell you what it 1219 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,439 Speaker 2: is next. He's buck Rising on Jason fitz bucking fits 1220 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. I find myself eating a portion 1221 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 2: controlled number of frozen grapes at the end of the night, 1222 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 2: and I feel so fancy, because my whole life growing 1223 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 2: up is like, oh, the concept of frozen. 1224 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 3: Grapes, but also they're really delicious. 1225 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 2: So where are you, as the elitist on frozen grapes 1226 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 2: as a sweet treat. 1227 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 4: It sounds like something you would give a toddler that 1228 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 4: does that does not sound like that to shut up 1229 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 4: a screaming baby up, you'd be like, all right, I'll 1230 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 4: give him some frozen grapes. 1231 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:44,880 Speaker 3: Maybe he's teething. 1232 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 2: Loyalty Back in the day got like like the women 1233 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 2: would feed the royalty the frozen grapes while they fan 1234 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 2: them with the big banana leza. 1235 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 3: No no, no, no no. 1236 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 4: When you tell me frozen grapes, I think something to 1237 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 4: come in a wholesale bag that you're just pulling out 1238 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 4: of a pulling out the freezer at night and shoveling 1239 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 4: a couple in your face and then calling it. 1240 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:10,280 Speaker 2: Today, I saw on Instagram reel of champagne so grapes 1241 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 2: that were then covered in sugar and put in the 1242 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 2: freezer to freeze them as candied alcoholic grapes. Who that 1243 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 2: might be more of his? I mean, now we're getting 1244 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 2: just boozy enough for buck rising. It's fucking fits on 1245 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. 1246 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 3: I feel like that's good stuff. 1247 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 2: For the best pregame show every weekend, be sure to 1248 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 2: tune into Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented by 1249 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 2: Bett MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning. We count you 1250 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 2: down to all the biggest games for three hours right 1251 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 2: up until kickoff, for all the very best plays and 1252 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,439 Speaker 2: up to the second injury news. Tune in to count 1253 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 2: Down to Kickoff, presented by Bett MGM every Saturday and 1254 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 2: Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio and the 1255 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 2: iHeart App. We're doing the flippity dippity whippity woo and 1256 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 2: the ball is down on the ground. Tampa Bay is 1257 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 2: just one, sixteen to fourteen. So congratulations America. You now 1258 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 2: have to watch the Falcons and the Saints next week tomorrow, 1259 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 2: I should say, to find out who's gonna win the 1260 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,439 Speaker 2: NFC South. If the Falcons win, it creates a three 1261 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,439 Speaker 2: way tie. In that three way tie, the tiebreaker goes 1262 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 2: to the Panthers, So the Panthers at eight and nine 1263 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 2: will go to the playoffs if the Falcons win. If 1264 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,879 Speaker 2: the Falcons lose, then the Buccaneers at eight and nine 1265 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,879 Speaker 2: go to the playoffs. Either way, the eight and nine 1266 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 2: winner of the NFC South is headed to the playoffs. Also, 1267 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 2: we got a report a little earlier that we told 1268 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 2: you about the broke at the top of the hour 1269 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 2: from Jordan Schultz, NFL Insider about the Raiders looking like 1270 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 2: they're going to be moving on according to his report 1271 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 2: from Pete Carroll at the end of the season, which 1272 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 2: got us to a little bit of the conversation about 1273 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 2: coaching and the one thing that I don't think fans 1274 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 2: put enough weight into buck when it comes to their 1275 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 2: favorite team needing a new head coach. And this is 1276 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,440 Speaker 2: just such a simple part of the equation. If your 1277 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,880 Speaker 2: team has a quarterback or a clear path to a quarterback, 1278 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,800 Speaker 2: you are a desirable job. If your favorite team does not, 1279 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 2: you want not go back to Ben Johnson, who two 1280 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 2: years ago even flew to Washington and they thought they 1281 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,400 Speaker 2: had him hired, and he's like, now I'm gonna give 1282 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 2: it another year in Detroit. 1283 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go there. 1284 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 2: Well, there wasn't a clear path to necessarily knowing exactly 1285 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 2: what their quarterback situation would look like. Even with the 1286 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 2: high draft pick, you didn't know exactly who. 1287 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 3: Was gonna be there. 1288 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 2: What it was gonna look like, no clear path. Then 1289 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 2: the following off season, everybody thought they were getting Ben Johnson. 1290 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,439 Speaker 2: What do you know, when the dust settles, he goes 1291 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 2: to the former number one pick in Caleb Williams. He 1292 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 2: goes to the place that had a clear quarterback answer 1293 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 2: to the question. So when you start looking around saying 1294 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 2: who's gonna go where and what candidate do we need? 1295 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 2: I think one thing you have to acknowledge part of 1296 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 2: the reason I do believe that the number one overall 1297 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 2: pick for the my beloved Raiders is so important. Look, 1298 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 2: there might be multiple quarterbacks. We'll see Dante Moore might 1299 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 2: come out. But if you go to a head coach 1300 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 2: now with the second overall pick, you're saying, hey, we 1301 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 2: might have a way to get to a guy you like. 1302 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 3: We might not. 1303 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 2: If you have the first overall pick, now you have 1304 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 2: one hundred and ten million dollars in salary cap space, 1305 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 2: and you have a clear path to what what ever 1306 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 2: quarterback that coach prefers. 1307 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 3: Now. 1308 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 2: That could be Dante more could be Fernando Mendoz. I 1309 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 2: don't know right now, but at least answers a clear path. 1310 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 2: I think teams, fans will get a better sense of 1311 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 2: how desirable their job is simply by looking at the 1312 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 2: one position that matters the most and saying, do we 1313 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 2: have a quarterback that coaches want to stick their entire 1314 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 2: career on. 1315 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 3: Oh, I just went through this. I mean with the Titans. 1316 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 4: They had the number one overall pick last year, and 1317 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 4: their organization has been a disaster. They have been self 1318 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 4: sabotaging at every turn, really until it feels like the 1319 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 4: last calendar year, and even then like it felt like 1320 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 4: they had just made a mess of things with the 1321 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 4: Callahan scenario that I described earlier in the show if 1322 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 4: you were listening, But what did they have? They had 1323 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 4: the number one overall pick, and so they went into 1324 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 4: the general manager process with Brian Callahan as the coach 1325 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 4: in place, no quarterback in place, but that number one 1326 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 4: overall pick, and they were able to land the person 1327 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 4: who is regard or at least last year, was regarded 1328 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 4: as the most viable or best possible general manager candidate, 1329 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 4: despite their organization being wrought with dysfunction. 1330 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 3: And make no mistake like a lot of the people. 1331 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 4: That were responsible for the dysfunction are still at the 1332 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans. But if you finally get an adult in 1333 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 4: the room and give him real football power and say okay, 1334 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 4: go do your job and we just won't mess with you. 1335 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 3: Then yeah, things can change for the correct, for the good. 1336 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 4: So they hired Mike Borganzi as the general manager, and 1337 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 4: they went through the Brian Callahan thing, and they ended 1338 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 4: up having to fire Brian Callahan, which again I think 1339 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 4: set cam Ward back unnecessarily. That wasn't Mike Borganzi's decision. 1340 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 4: Now they have cam Ward in place, and they have 1341 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 4: the cap space, and they have Mike Borganzi who apparently 1342 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 4: is going to lead their coaching search after a statement 1343 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 4: from the owner for like the seventeenth thousandth time yesterday 1344 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 4: about a reorganizing of the power structure for the Tennessee Titans. 1345 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 4: But again, this one's for good because they finally let 1346 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 4: somebody with a football background actually make the football decisions, 1347 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 4: which is something that they hit straight from in the. 1348 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 3: Last couple of years. 1349 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 4: So your assets make you a viable an attractive job, right, 1350 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 4: just like anything else. I think that a lot of 1351 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,959 Speaker 4: times people get caught up in the idea of because 1352 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 4: I think fans will talk themselves into Fitzie depending on 1353 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 4: how down bad their organization is and how much they 1354 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 4: decide that they're tired of the media criticizing that specific job. 1355 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 3: Because I do go through this a lot. 1356 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 4: With Titans fans, given that that's the team that I cover, 1357 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 4: I get a lot of feedback to the effect of, well, 1358 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,439 Speaker 4: it's one of thirty two, somebody. 1359 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 3: Will want it, and I hate that. 1360 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 4: I hate that logic more than anything because I don't 1361 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 4: want somebody who just wants it because it's one of 1362 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 4: thirty two, like it's just their first opportunity, so let 1363 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 4: me take the job. I want somebody who's going to 1364 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 4: be like Ben Johnson or Mike McCarthy when he took 1365 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 4: a year off and kind of got to be a 1366 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 4: bit more selective about his opportunities. I want somebody who's 1367 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 4: actually going to consider the merits of the place and say, no, 1368 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 4: that's what makes sense for me, and if it's not 1369 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 4: in the right place, then like Ben Johnson with Tennessee, 1370 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 4: decline the interview, go back to Detroit and pick something 1371 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 4: that's more viable. 1372 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 3: I want that kind of a candidate. 1373 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 4: If I'm the Raiders or the Giants or the Titans, 1374 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 4: we'll see what happens in Cleveland at this point in time, 1375 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 4: I don't want somebody that just wants it because it's 1376 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 4: one of thirty two. I've never understood why fans use 1377 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 4: that as a justification. 1378 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 2: If your argument is we're one of thirty two, I 1379 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 2: want you to understand, you're going to get a one 1380 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 2: of thirty two candidate. Like, there's a difference between I 1381 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 2: have choices in a holy cow. 1382 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 3: They're calling me. 1383 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 2: Like, there's a big difference in what you're looking at. 1384 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 2: So if the argument is, well, there's only thirty two 1385 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 2: of them, you're gonna get somebody that's looking around saying, man, 1386 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 2: there's only thirty two of these jobs, and this one's 1387 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 2: open and could be a good opportunity. 1388 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and take it. That might work, 1389 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 3: I might work for you. 1390 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 2: But that's a far different cry than again using the 1391 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 2: hottest of hottest candidates. 1392 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 3: Over the last several years. Ben Johnson was. 1393 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 2: So clearly for two years the hot candidate everybody wanted, 1394 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 2: which allowed him to be wildly selective right Like it 1395 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 2: allowed him to decide not on one of thirty two, 1396 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 2: but on is this where I can go and I 1397 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 2: can have tremendous success. Look at some of the names 1398 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,720 Speaker 2: that are out there right now that every fan base 1399 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 2: is going to talk about in this cycle. Whether that is, 1400 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 2: if you know, if Stefanski is fired from Cleveland, he'll 1401 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 2: be on this list, Robert sala is on this list. 1402 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 2: You can go through the list and look at guys 1403 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 2: that have been coaches before McCarthy. Right, ask yourself this, 1404 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,439 Speaker 2: If you're Robert sala that only shot so far has 1405 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 2: come in an organization that was dysfunctional with no quarterback, 1406 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 2: why in the hell would you take any job that 1407 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 2: doesn't have a quarterback you adore, I mean you love. 1408 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 2: You got to be able to look that quarterback in 1409 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 2: the eye and say, you know what, I'm never getting 1410 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 2: a third shot at this, so I'm going to bank 1411 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,080 Speaker 2: my entire future living on you being able to win 1412 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 2: me football games. Like That's what I think people forget 1413 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 2: in this process. Like if you all or Mike McCarthy 1414 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 2: that has worked with at this point, Aaron Rodgers and 1415 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, what's your level of interest in taking a 1416 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 2: job that has a quarterback you don't like or no 1417 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 2: clear path to a quarterback? The answer to that is none, Right, 1418 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 2: So that's why it becomes so important Look, the Giants 1419 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 2: job is open. The Giants job is in part going 1420 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 2: to be defined by who's excited by working with Jackson Dart. 1421 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 3: That's real. 1422 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 2: So they're gonna have to that will either eliminate or 1423 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 2: add candidates one way or the other. And that's why 1424 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 2: it's more than just any one portion of this, it's 1425 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 2: all of it put together. Martin Wise, get us caught up. 1426 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 2: We need a scoreboard update what's going on across the 1427 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 2: landscape and the universe. 1428 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,760 Speaker 6: Right now, my friend, Well, right now, we have to 1429 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 6: wait till tomorrow because we have to know if the 1430 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 6: Falcons are gonna lose or tie the Saints, to find 1431 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 6: out if Tampa can get in or not. They did 1432 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 6: everything that they could today. Baker Mayfield is saying he 1433 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 6: is a New Orleans Saints fan. Tomorrow I'll be watching 1434 01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,120 Speaker 6: the game from his couch because the Buccaneers able to 1435 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 6: be victorious today sixteen to fourteen against the Panthers, Panthers 1436 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 6: scoring a late touchdown in the fourth quarter, but not 1437 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 6: able to go ahead and pull that win out from behind. 1438 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,320 Speaker 6: Tampa got out to our early lead ten to nothing. 1439 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 6: Baker threw an interception and late in the first half 1440 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 6: that led to a Carolina touchdown and was really most 1441 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 6: of what Carolina could do offensively all day. They did 1442 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 6: have a drive in the fourth quarter where they try 1443 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:25,439 Speaker 6: to trick play. 1444 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 3: Rico o'dowdo took a handoff, pitched it back to. 1445 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 6: Bryce Young Fubo Lavonte David recovered that fumble and helped 1446 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 6: Tampa secure the win. TJ Wide has no limitations. He's 1447 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 6: expected to play Sunday night against the Ravens. Josh Allen 1448 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 6: a limited participant Friday. He's expected to play. He missed 1449 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 6: two practices this week. He's still expected to start, like 1450 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 6: I just said, to get his second longest active star streak. 1451 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 3: Alive, thing continuing. 1452 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 6: He's got one hundred and twenty one right now, looking 1453 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,959 Speaker 6: to make one twenty two tomorrow. The first longest act 1454 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 6: streak is Philip Rivers. He's got two hundred and forty three. 1455 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,560 Speaker 6: So Philip retires and Josh to go back to that 1456 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 6: number one spot, But right now Phillips got it. The 1457 01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 6: Seahawks and the forty nine ers are about to kick 1458 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 6: off here in about twenty minutes, those two teams vying 1459 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 6: for the one seed in the NFC. This will be 1460 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 6: the first regular season finale in league history with both 1461 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 6: teams on winning streaks of at least six games. The 1462 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 6: loser of this will be a wild card and also 1463 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 6: the Rams will says Seahawks win tonight, the Rams be 1464 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 6: the five seed and if the Rams, if the Rams 1465 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 6: beat the Cardinals on Sunday, if the forty nine Ers win, 1466 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 6: the Rams will be the sixth seed. Either way, expect 1467 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 6: Sean mcvagh to play his starters. He said he's not 1468 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 6: happy with the way the guys are closing out the year, 1469 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 6: so they'll be playing no matter what the seeding will be. 1470 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 3: Fellas Back to. 1471 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 2: You, he's Buck Rising Up Jason Fitzbucking Fits hanging out 1472 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 2: with you on Fox Sports Radio. If you missed any 1473 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 2: of today's show, shame on. You got to catch the pod. 1474 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast. 1475 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 2: Right after the show today's pod gets posted. Be sure 1476 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 2: to follow the pod Rted five Stars. 1477 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 3: You can even give us a review. Again. 1478 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast. 1479 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 2: You'll find today's full show posted right after we get 1480 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,439 Speaker 2: off the air. Buck, can I give you the most 1481 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:17,080 Speaker 2: amazing stat in the history of stats that absolutely. 1482 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 3: Blew my mind? Today? Hmmm, you may, but only because 1483 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 3: you're asked. Laughs. I thank you. 1484 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 2: More people watched the Pop Tarts Bowl than the NBA 1485 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 2: Conference Final. Can I tell you this? More people watched 1486 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 2: the Pop Tart Bowl than the blowout games in the 1487 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 2: first round of the CFP. Eight point seven million people 1488 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 2: watched the Pop Tart Bowl. Can we officially put to 1489 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 2: bed any argument, discussion, any yelling that bowl season is dead? 1490 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 2: Can we officially put that? 1491 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 3: Put that to rest? Oh don't know, can we? 1492 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 4: You're you're the one out here spewing this propaganda. 1493 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 2: And it didn't captivate me. I didn't say it needed 1494 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 2: to go away. 1495 01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 3: No, No, it's fine, a pair. 1496 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 4: It was enough to captivate eight point seven million people, 1497 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 4: not captivating to you. 1498 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 3: Wait, you're too good for the Pop Tart Bowl. 1499 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 4: You're too good for the live sacrificing of an edible mascot. 1500 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 4: You're you're too good for the nonsense that byu uh 1501 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 4: and uh and yea? 1502 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 3: Who they played? Who they play? Who they played? Georgia Town? 1503 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 3: You had to look it up. 1504 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 2: You you had to see that was my follow up question, 1505 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 2: Who actually played in this thing? 1506 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:25,439 Speaker 3: Like we can agree? 1507 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 2: The Duke's Mail Bowl, the pop Tart Bowl and the 1508 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 2: Cheesey Bowl are the three that everybody watches. We don't 1509 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 2: watch it for the team I got. Nobody knows who 1510 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,480 Speaker 2: played in the pop Dart Bowl. They only know the people. 1511 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no, no pop Tart. 1512 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 4: Ironically enough, though, the pop Tart Bowl ends up being 1513 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,440 Speaker 4: a pretty good game. What twenty five to twenty one 1514 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,920 Speaker 4: BYU this year, forty two to forty one. 1515 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 3: I was straight over Miami last year. 1516 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,640 Speaker 4: So the pop Tart Bowl has has had some pretty 1517 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 4: good matchups or at least some pretty good uh drama 1518 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,200 Speaker 4: in them beyond the eating of the sacrificial pop tart. 1519 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 3: And this year there were. 1520 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 4: Like six different pop Tart mascots. They all had their 1521 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 4: own entrances. It was delightful. No, this is a This 1522 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 4: is such an achievement for marketing, such an achievement for 1523 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 4: a department of the Pop Tarts Corporation that has to 1524 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 4: be looking around and being like, how the hell are 1525 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 4: we gonna one up this thing each and every year? 1526 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,320 Speaker 4: And to their credit, they have found ways each and 1527 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,880 Speaker 4: every year to make the pop Tart Bowl more and 1528 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 4: more ridiculous. But this is what you have to do, right, 1529 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 4: This is the eye candy. It's no longer enough to 1530 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 4: just play the games. I think a lot of situations 1531 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,479 Speaker 4: and listen, the ball games are gonna rate fine, Like people, 1532 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,800 Speaker 4: even if it's just college football the on in the 1533 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 4: background while you work or do the dishes, or fold 1534 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 4: your laundry, or sit in an airport bar, or whatever 1535 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 4: the case may be. Like, football will always rate reasonably well. 1536 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,080 Speaker 4: That the pop tart bawl outdrew. You said, the NBA Finals, 1537 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 4: Conference Finals, Conference finals? Okay, So who was in the 1538 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 4: conference finals you had? You had the Pacers, and who 1539 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 4: played the Pacers. 1540 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 3: In these Celtics. I don't remember. I don't remember. It's 1541 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,639 Speaker 3: like we consume so many sports. I don't remember. 1542 01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 4: Now that's going that's reasonable because I'm thinking about under Pacers. Obviously, 1543 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,719 Speaker 4: on the opposite side, I'm blanking on who they beat 1544 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 4: those two teams to beat to it, or did beat 1545 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 4: to advance to the NBA Finals last year. Perhaps I'm 1546 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,000 Speaker 4: buying you enough time to look that up for us. 1547 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 3: I'm trying to look it up here. I'm trying to 1548 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 3: look it up. Football is always going to rate. 1549 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 2: I'm a city Minnesota, Indiana took down the Knicks. Yeah, 1550 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,040 Speaker 2: How do I forget that Indiana took down the Knicks. 1551 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,599 Speaker 2: We had the Knicks. The Pomptar Bowl just outed the 1552 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,599 Speaker 2: Knicks in the conference. I mean, come on, like, that's wild. 1553 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 2: I'm not even saying that, like I'm saying this with 1554 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 2: joy and jubilation on my face because I'm a troll. 1555 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,959 Speaker 2: But that's just amazing to outdraw the Ficks. 1556 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 3: But why is it wild? 1557 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,560 Speaker 4: At every turn, the vast majority of the country is 1558 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,799 Speaker 4: telling you they don't watch the NBA, So like, what, what, 1559 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 4: what do the Knicks mean outside of New York? 1560 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 2: It's wild to me because if anybody could get ratings, 1561 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 2: it would be the Knicks, a big, big team. But 1562 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,280 Speaker 2: then the other side of it is it's wild to 1563 01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 2: me because I keep hearing and this is where there's 1564 01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:03,479 Speaker 2: a disconnect. You've smartly said we all got to stop 1565 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,840 Speaker 2: listening to anything that's said on social media because it's 1566 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,559 Speaker 2: not real. But there's such a disconnect right now. I 1567 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,439 Speaker 2: hear college football people, even Nick Siteman, coming out talking about, well, 1568 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 2: you know, the more we expand the playoff, the more 1569 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 2: it lessens the bowl games, and the more it's gonna 1570 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 2: negate the point of all of these other things. 1571 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 3: That's just not true. 1572 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 2: I mean, the more college football we get, the more 1573 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 2: college football we watch. So every time there's a conversation 1574 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 2: about college football expansion and somebody tells me, oh, like, 1575 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 2: they can't expand the college so they're ruining the game. 1576 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 2: Eight point seven million people watch the Pop Tart Bowl. 1577 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 3: They're not ruining anything. 1578 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 2: So like there's a disconnect between the handbringing people that 1579 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 2: yell about everything that's happening in college football and the 1580 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,919 Speaker 2: reality of the numbers to me, And that's wildly interesting. 1581 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,320 Speaker 2: It's interesting to me that a game that most of 1582 01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 2: us don't even remember already who played in got eight 1583 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 2: point seven million views simply because there's edible mascots. 1584 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 4: I mean, sometimes that's all it takes. Fitzing, I'm all 1585 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 4: about the eye candy. You would you accuse me of 1586 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,439 Speaker 4: yesterday some kind of like shiny bicycle or something like that, 1587 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,040 Speaker 4: just in terms of how I get distracted, squirrel type 1588 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 4: of situation. Yeah, Listen, I need more than just sports 1589 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,599 Speaker 4: like you're appealing. You're appealing to different demographics too when 1590 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,439 Speaker 4: you do this right, because you have to find some 1591 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,879 Speaker 4: kind of jazz hands to go along with your football 1592 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,639 Speaker 4: to get people I mean, and this is a larger 1593 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 4: issue that we don't necessarily have to get into now, 1594 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,840 Speaker 4: but you're dealing with a generational disconnect where younger people 1595 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 4: just aren't consuming sports like live sports in the way 1596 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 4: that you, or as a different generation, or me, as 1597 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:42,080 Speaker 4: a different generation across the board do And how much 1598 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,439 Speaker 4: of our lives are free time? And not just because 1599 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,840 Speaker 4: you and I work in this industry, but how many 1600 01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 4: people just genuinely spend their time watching sports on television 1601 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 4: as opposed to consuming it via social media. The Pop 1602 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 4: Tarts Bowl is a social media extravaganza, right, and it's 1603 01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 4: going to draw I think there is going to be 1604 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,960 Speaker 4: level of residual event to be like, what the hell 1605 01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 4: is going on between BYU and Georgia Tech. Why do 1606 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 4: I see all of these live pop Tart mascots all 1607 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 4: over the place? Should I turn on my television watch this? 1608 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 4: Oh my god, they're eating a mascot live on TV. 1609 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:14,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1610 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:15,920 Speaker 4: I think there is something to that. I think the 1611 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 4: Pop Tarts Bowl has hit on something very safe. I 1612 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 4: don't think that this is going to happen across the board. 1613 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 4: I don't think the Duke's Mayo Bowl is gonna outdraw 1614 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,320 Speaker 4: the Knicks in the conference finals. I think the pop 1615 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 4: Tarts has done something very very specific here to the 1616 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,439 Speaker 4: point where we're spending what fifteen minutes of national radio 1617 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,800 Speaker 4: on a game that was played two weeks ago. I 1618 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,120 Speaker 4: guess it wasn't two weeks ago. It was about a 1619 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 4: week ago at this point in time. But a game 1620 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 4: between two teams that didn't make the college football Playoff 1621 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 4: in a largely meaningless bowl game, We're spending ten to 1622 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 4: fifteen minutes on national radio talking about it a week 1623 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,719 Speaker 4: after the fact because it is such a spectacular event. 1624 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,719 Speaker 4: They've done their job well. 1625 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 2: And we got a tweet from Preler Forever who says, 1626 01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 2: what are the ratings for the other non CFO bole games. Honestly, 1627 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,800 Speaker 2: the answer to that up thirteen percent year over year. 1628 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:05,040 Speaker 2: ESPNPR put this out. Bowl games are up thirteen percent 1629 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,280 Speaker 2: year over year, So you know the fact. The fact 1630 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,880 Speaker 2: of the matter is people are watching it. I mean, 1631 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,720 Speaker 2: there's just no two ways to dissect this. Every time 1632 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,880 Speaker 2: somebody wants to make an excuse for well, it doesn't 1633 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,759 Speaker 2: really mean this or that it does. I'm not somebody 1634 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 2: that believes the NBA, by the way, is in trouble 1635 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,479 Speaker 2: or dying. And I've said many times I worked on 1636 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 2: platforms at ESPN that specialize like Sports Center on Snapchat, 1637 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 2: places like that. Consumption of NBA highlights and social media 1638 01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,360 Speaker 2: is at an all time high. So look, look no 1639 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:39,599 Speaker 2: further than participation in youth basketball is rising astronomically year 1640 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,479 Speaker 2: over year every single year. More kids are not flocking 1641 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,799 Speaker 2: to basketball because they aren't watching the NBA. They're flocking 1642 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,640 Speaker 2: to basketball because they're watching NBA highlights in quick patterns 1643 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,559 Speaker 2: that last two to three seconds. When we did Sports 1644 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,679 Speaker 2: Center on snap the rule was you had three seconds 1645 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,839 Speaker 2: to gain or lose a viewer. That is how modern 1646 01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,240 Speaker 2: society consumes the NBA. So I don't think the NBA 1647 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,839 Speaker 2: is dead at all. I just think it's being consumed 1648 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,479 Speaker 2: in a different way. With bowl game ratings being up 1649 01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 2: thirteen percent and the Pop Tart Bowl coming out here 1650 01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 2: and outdrawing the NBA Conference Finals. My point is not 1651 01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,639 Speaker 2: that anything else is broken. My point is that anybody 1652 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,760 Speaker 2: that tells you college football is dying or struggling or 1653 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,600 Speaker 2: not going to be able to keep this up, or 1654 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 2: there's problems with the game long term, all of these 1655 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,479 Speaker 2: fear mongering hand ringing. People that are my peers that 1656 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,320 Speaker 2: cover college football for a living are wrong at someday, 1657 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 2: at some point, we all have to look at the 1658 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,679 Speaker 2: data even when it doesn't make sense, and the data 1659 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 2: is very clear. We love college football more than ever. 1660 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,599 Speaker 2: We love this version of college football more than ever, 1661 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,160 Speaker 2: and everybody that's telling you we don't is just old 1662 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,040 Speaker 2: man screaming on their lawn at the sky for absolutely nothing. 1663 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:46,920 Speaker 2: We'll keep breaking it down, but we got to get 1664 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,200 Speaker 2: to the single greatest game show in the history of 1665 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,679 Speaker 2: sports talk radio. It's time for wood You rather coming 1666 01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 2: up next. 1667 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:59,280 Speaker 3: To bucking Fits. I'll be honest, I think fireworks kind 1668 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:03,040 Speaker 3: of overrated. I'll be honest, Like it's really the sweaty crowds. 1669 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,120 Speaker 2: Like there's just a lot of buck sweat throughout the 1670 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 2: course of this, Like especially down in the South where everybody's. 1671 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 3: It's just hot and humid and like in fat and 1672 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 3: just yeah, there's a lot of that. Are you are 1673 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,440 Speaker 3: you a pro? He fireworks? Kind of? I hate fireworks. 1674 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 3: I think they're a giant pain in the ass. 1675 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,040 Speaker 4: I think that there is not a more overrated way 1676 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:25,160 Speaker 4: of celebrating in this world than the shooting off of fireworks. 1677 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,840 Speaker 3: Bro It takes me two hours. 1678 01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,639 Speaker 4: To get in a situation for me to properly see 1679 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,439 Speaker 4: the fireworks, and it is such a pain in the 1680 01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,040 Speaker 4: ass for like seven minutes of actual payoff. 1681 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 2: God, he's so angry. He's an angry sell pull buck Rising, 1682 01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,600 Speaker 2: Jason Fitz Bucket fits. 1683 01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 3: It's something langry, That's all I'm saying, Bucket Fits. 1684 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 2: On Fox Sports Radio, you can tweet us at buck Rising, 1685 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:53,240 Speaker 2: at Jason Fits. 1686 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:57,440 Speaker 4: What what I'm just I don't I'm not angry, Okay, 1687 01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 4: I've just got a tone problem. 1688 01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:03,080 Speaker 3: There's a different we have resting tone voice all right. 1689 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,680 Speaker 2: By the way, we have Seattle San Francisco kick it 1690 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,920 Speaker 2: off in a few minutes. If San Francisco wins, then 1691 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,400 Speaker 2: they will get the one seed. Seattle gets the five seed. 1692 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,280 Speaker 2: The Rams are the six seed that would all be 1693 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,559 Speaker 2: locked in. If Seattle wins, Seattle gets the one seed 1694 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, the Rams and San 1695 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,240 Speaker 2: Francisco a lot of variables depending on what happens with 1696 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,360 Speaker 2: the Rams game tomorrow. So a lot of variables left 1697 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 2: to happen tonight. But as we do every single day 1698 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:30,840 Speaker 2: on this show. By the way, if you just hung 1699 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,479 Speaker 2: out with us every Saturday six to eight pm. 1700 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:33,719 Speaker 3: Bucking fits. We're always here. 1701 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:35,920 Speaker 2: It is time for the single greatest game show in 1702 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 2: the history of sports Socock Radio book. 1703 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:46,200 Speaker 3: Are you ready for Wood? Would you rather I feel 1704 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,519 Speaker 3: like we got that one. It's easy, guys, don't hard. 1705 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:56,080 Speaker 3: Would you rather Bucket? Touch or fix it? All right? 1706 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 7: How do you think you how do you think you 1707 01:16:58,400 --> 01:16:58,920 Speaker 7: did on that? 1708 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 3: I great? 1709 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,720 Speaker 8: No, it didn't come out very very well on on 1710 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,800 Speaker 8: they saw I. 1711 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,200 Speaker 3: Kind of gather. I kind of gathered. 1712 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 2: Buck, though, it gets a little sensitive with this this 1713 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:13,519 Speaker 2: negative feedback here. 1714 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great. It was great. 1715 01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:16,880 Speaker 2: Compliment sandwich. 1716 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,360 Speaker 3: Next time, maybe be like batronize me. 1717 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, but Buck, we'll give him a like, 1718 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,280 Speaker 2: hey man, your beard looks great, little little little out 1719 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 2: of sinc on that. 1720 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 3: And by the way, have you lost weight? See how 1721 01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,560 Speaker 3: that goes? Now? Buck's happy? 1722 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like a what's it called an insult sandwich 1723 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,799 Speaker 8: or a compliment complement sandwich? 1724 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,920 Speaker 3: That's sandwich. I'm not happy with either of you. Spind 1725 01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:39,240 Speaker 3: the whe. 1726 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,640 Speaker 8: Okay, kind of a deep one to start things out here. 1727 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,360 Speaker 8: Would you rather go through life unable to answer any 1728 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 8: questions or unable to ask any questions. 1729 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,680 Speaker 2: No, unable to answer, definitely unable to answer because I 1730 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,200 Speaker 2: have a follow up question to almost everything in life. 1731 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 3: To a flaw, but what about? But what about? 1732 01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 2: Like I hate myself sometimes for that. I got to 1733 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,000 Speaker 2: be able to ask questions. Plus, I like going in 1734 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:11,720 Speaker 2: when I have no skin in the game at all 1735 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,800 Speaker 2: and just asking the question that I know will absolutely 1736 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,120 Speaker 2: irritate the entire room and then walking out of it. 1737 01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,559 Speaker 2: So I need that superpower to be able to just 1738 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,759 Speaker 2: destroy a party by coming in and saying one political 1739 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,720 Speaker 2: thing and then leaving. So I need to be able 1740 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:25,439 Speaker 2: to ask questions. 1741 01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 4: Buck, I don't want to I don't want to answer questions. 1742 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,599 Speaker 7: I figured out a response. 1743 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,840 Speaker 4: I just want to be able to do what I 1744 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 4: want to do and not have to have any accountability 1745 01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 4: and not have to answer to anybody about it. I mean, 1746 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,200 Speaker 4: I do that anyway, but like I would like to 1747 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,720 Speaker 4: be able to do that without any kind of any 1748 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,040 Speaker 4: kind of repercussions. 1749 01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 7: Shall we say, okay, all right, let's spind it. 1750 01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 3: Okay. 1751 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,360 Speaker 8: Would you rather have to dump on every life ambition 1752 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,400 Speaker 8: anybody ever shares they have with you, or have to 1753 01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 8: offer candy to a kid whenever you drive your car. 1754 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:11,479 Speaker 2: Oh God, with offering candy to a kid? 1755 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:12,360 Speaker 3: Why is that a bad thing? 1756 01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 7: Nothing? You should go do it right after that? 1757 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:15,240 Speaker 3: I think you should. 1758 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:18,800 Speaker 4: You should drive around the neighborhoods of Connecticut if you're 1759 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,880 Speaker 4: not snowed in, and I think you should just honk 1760 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 4: your horn and be like, hey, small children, I have 1761 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 4: candy for you in my car. Let's go on a 1762 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,400 Speaker 4: magical ride. Okay, I acknowledge that. 1763 01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,600 Speaker 2: I if I walk on to a like a car dealership, 1764 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,720 Speaker 2: I'm not even allowed to ask how much the white 1765 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,160 Speaker 2: van is. I understand certain things. So no, I'm not 1766 01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,040 Speaker 2: going to do that. Okay, go ahead, Buck, I what 1767 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,120 Speaker 2: would you rather do? I? 1768 01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:42,080 Speaker 3: What was the first option? 1769 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:42,840 Speaker 7: Would you rather have? 1770 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 8: To dump on every life ambition anybody ever shares they 1771 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:47,240 Speaker 8: have with you? 1772 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,519 Speaker 3: I mean kind of yeah, I think we both do this. 1773 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,040 Speaker 4: You seem to have found my sweet spot where a 1774 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,920 Speaker 4: lot of these behaviors I they're already in my already 1775 01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:56,639 Speaker 4: in my repertoire. 1776 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:57,120 Speaker 7: That's true. 1777 01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, just I'd love to be a huge producer someday, 1778 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,120 Speaker 8: never happening, never happening. 1779 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,320 Speaker 3: Never happen. Yeah, that's great. 1780 01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,280 Speaker 2: But let me explain to you how the minutia of 1781 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,559 Speaker 2: the business works. Yeah, no, I hate myself, but that 1782 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:10,479 Speaker 2: that's who I already am. 1783 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,120 Speaker 4: Let me explain to you how the minutia of the 1784 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:14,040 Speaker 4: business works. 1785 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,439 Speaker 3: Oh, you're welcome. God, I hate myself. Like I said, 1786 01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:17,760 Speaker 3: now give us another one. What have we got? 1787 01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:24,280 Speaker 7: Okay? 1788 01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,280 Speaker 8: I think this one's actually a repeat, but it was 1789 01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:27,640 Speaker 8: a It was a good one when we did it, 1790 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,960 Speaker 8: like probably months and months and months ago. So would 1791 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,000 Speaker 8: you rather have to fight a chicken every time you 1792 01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,840 Speaker 8: enter your car or have to fight in a orangutang 1793 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 8: once a year, but you get a sword to fight 1794 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:37,480 Speaker 8: the orangutang. 1795 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:38,880 Speaker 3: I want a. 1796 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 2: Sword against the orangutang, right, Like there's a chicken in 1797 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,880 Speaker 2: the car. That thing's gonna scratch you and like claw 1798 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,040 Speaker 2: you to death. Rangutang at least, I said. Look, I 1799 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:48,800 Speaker 2: don't say it much of a chance, but I can 1800 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:50,280 Speaker 2: only imagine I hit him with the sword and he 1801 01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,000 Speaker 2: grabs the sword and takes it turns in on me 1802 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:53,439 Speaker 2: like that new like primate movie. 1803 01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:54,400 Speaker 3: What do you got on? 1804 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,920 Speaker 4: By the way, guys, go full Indiana start snapping chicken necks. 1805 01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,080 Speaker 3: I got this. The chicken stands no chance. 1806 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:03,360 Speaker 7: Every time you get in the car like. 1807 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,040 Speaker 8: Imagine just a tough day at work and you know 1808 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:06,600 Speaker 8: you have to fight that chicken when you get in 1809 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 8: the car. 1810 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:08,040 Speaker 3: I feel like this. 1811 01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,240 Speaker 2: Stick around. More Fox Sports Radio coming. We'll be back 1812 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 2: with you next Saturday. Thanks for listening to Buck Rising 1813 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,280 Speaker 2: adjacent Fitz Bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio