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Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia.

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Speaker 2: The Meta podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain

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Speaker 3: Time on Thursday, October twenty fourth, and we're live from

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Speaker 3: Meat Eater HQ in Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Randall Williams,

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Speaker 3: joined today by Brody Henderson and Seth Morris. We've got

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Speaker 3: yet another great show for you today. We've got a

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Speaker 3: rut report from the one and only Mark Kenyon. We've

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Speaker 3: got one minute fishing, We're gonna do a little show

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Speaker 3: and tell, and we've got another hot tip off. But

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Speaker 3: before we get to all that, we're gonna talk to

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Speaker 3: a man who built a doggy door for a bear.

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Speaker 3: You like that, phil Is? She is just a great

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Speaker 3: sent Brodie, Seth, how are you guys doing today? Fantastic

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Speaker 3: getting a little excited for rifle opener here in.

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Speaker 4: My t it's almost here, Saturday, very close, very close.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: And Brody, you just got out this pass.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not even going out this weekend. We just

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Speaker 5: got off the youth hunt and uh, four families, four groups.

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Speaker 3: Of kids, six kids total, killed six bucks.

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Speaker 4: In a day and a half.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty impressive. That's cold killers out and that satiated

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Speaker 3: your deer hunting bug for a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not gonna hunt deer until till the ruck

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Speaker 5: kicks in around here in mid November.

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Speaker 3: Nice. Yeah, that's a good feeling to have that freezer

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Speaker 3: partially filled. Oh yeah, well you got a moose. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's like wave never mind. Yeah, your freezer is probably

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Speaker 3: got a second one going.

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Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, I'm not in any rush.

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Speaker 3: Well, a quick reminder for our listeners. We are going

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Speaker 3: to be doing a Q and a halfway through and

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Speaker 3: then again at the end of the show. So if

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Speaker 3: you got a question or a comment, or you want

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Speaker 3: us to address whatever is on your mind, please feel

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Speaker 3: free to drop that in the chat.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and on that note, we actually just got a

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Speaker 6: really pertinent question from Bart. He's asking if does Brody

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Speaker 6: know that he lost Trivia after the.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a great question, Bart Brody. A few weeks

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Speaker 3: ago when Jannis hosted Trivia, there was a question about

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Speaker 3: what's the what's the name of the what's the word?

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Speaker 3: The term a certain type of hibernation that animals go through,

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Speaker 3: and he was.

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Speaker 7: Asking you, how was the reptile one.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, but it's also actually applies to amphibians, and

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Speaker 3: so my answer of salamander was in fact correct, And

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Speaker 3: so you and I should not have gone to the

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Speaker 3: tiebreaker that you then won. So in fact I won

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Speaker 3: that game.

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Speaker 7: Right, you know, you got to win one once in

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Speaker 7: a while, Bud.

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Speaker 3: Wow, they delayed gratification is still gratification? All right, Well,

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Speaker 3: we we are going to to turn now to our

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Speaker 3: first guest, Kurt Siewe, who's coming to us live from

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Speaker 3: North Vancouver, British Columbia. Kurt, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 8: Good morning guys, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing?

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Speaker 8: Very good?

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Speaker 3: Excellent? So, Kurt, you know a lot of us have

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Speaker 3: had issues as homeowners with wildlife and all sorts of

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Speaker 3: other creatures, but you have a particularly interesting example that

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Speaker 3: you're going to share with us today. Can you tell

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Speaker 3: us a little bit about the issue you had and

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Speaker 3: how you solved it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Okay, So the issue was we moved here ten years

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Speaker 9: and it had these big holes on it. We weren't

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Speaker 9: really sure why, so I patched them up. Within weeks

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Speaker 9: we realized we're on a bear root and he just

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Speaker 9: kept punching through the fence leading the holes. So he'd

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Speaker 9: go through and break it, I'd fix it, so I

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Speaker 5: Was this a black bear or grizzly bear?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, black bear.

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Speaker 9: There's probably three or four that hang around the area,

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Speaker 3: And this is just his route. He's claimed it.

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Speaker 9: Well, we're on his route, and it wasn't a big deal.

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Speaker 9: Like I had my night cameras where we'd watch it,

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Speaker 9: we'd see him during the day sometimes. It wasn't a

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Speaker 9: fence all the way down on the south side and

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Speaker 9: eight foot seater. I think he can see the picture

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Speaker 9: right now and if he either climb it or he'd

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Speaker 9: But within two days, my wife and I were sitting

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Speaker 9: watching Netflix, maybe seven pm, and we look over and

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Speaker 10: I go run and out and he's out there just punching.

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Speaker 8: The boards out. He didn't wreck anything.

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Speaker 10: Which was fantastic, but you could see the picture.

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Speaker 9: He knocked the whole panel out and then just went

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Speaker 9: He couldn't care less, And so we're on a route.

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Speaker 9: He goes from the river, which he back onto up

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Speaker 4: Gotcha, Kurt, is this bear messing with anything other than

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Speaker 8: He just the fence.

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Speaker 9: He wants food. Like I've got a dog, he doesn't bother.

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Speaker 9: He's got kids, he doesn't bother I used to have chickens,

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Speaker 9: he doesn't bother them.

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Speaker 8: He's lazy, he's fat. He just wants food.

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Speaker 9: And he wants bug him and he just goes on

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Speaker 3: So tell us about how you solved this issue.

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Speaker 9: So I'm outside and I see the broken paddle, and

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Speaker 9: I'm like, I'm not gonna just leave it open. I've

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Speaker 9: a couple of days. So yeah, there you see it now.

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Speaker 9: And then I'm like, hey, but raccoon's every coyote is

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Speaker 9: everything else my dog Faggor's kids can get through. I'm like,

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Speaker 9: I don't want to just leave it open. So my

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Speaker 9: a cat door, but we'll make at a bear door.

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Speaker 9: And I'm by no meat the carpenter handyman. So I'm like, well, okay,

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Speaker 10: Of mine, as a joke I was doing, he sends

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Speaker 8: So Amazon package shows up. I crack it open.

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Speaker 10: It's this bear sign. I'm like, oh, what the hell?

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Speaker 9: And it's it was him as a joke, because this

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Speaker 9: Bear sign on the door and I set my rol

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Speaker 9: and well, those steeper works.

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Speaker 10: It's a long shot.

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Speaker 9: But we didn't expect anything to happen, and sure enough,

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Speaker 9: like maybe ten days later, we catch the video of

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Speaker 8: It, and it's hilarious. So I get the video.

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Speaker 9: It's like six in the morning when I get up,

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Speaker 9: sends it to the Bear Society.

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Speaker 10: Local Bear Society.

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Speaker 9: Canadians are really nice, so we want to just make

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Speaker 9: just explodes and I'm not on Instagram or TikTok. It

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Speaker 9: Within like four days, it's got over five million views.

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Speaker 9: And then now I'm I'm asked being asked to talk

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Speaker 10: Basis and my kids and that are having a blast because.

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Speaker 9: This is just a joke, and it's just it's gone viral.

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Speaker 9: we're all just Last Thursday, when we're at about nine

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Speaker 9: you're at like nine hundred and fifty thousand views on

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Speaker 9: And you know, we just have a total blast with it,

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Speaker 8: It's been really fun.

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Speaker 3: That's great. So are any other have you seen any

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Speaker 9: So just the bear, A couple of dogs he tried

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Speaker 9: it won't go through because even if they can't push it,

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Speaker 9: fun is when I went on to TikTok hearing how

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Speaker 4: The bringing up with Kurt here.

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Speaker 8: This guy is so awesome.

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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, we lost you for just a second, you

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Speaker 9: The options are endlest know the Americans the comments the

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Speaker 9: Americans left versus the Canadians. The Canadians are all like, oh,

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Speaker 9: this guy's so great, hugs and kisses, and I'm going

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Speaker 9: to do that in my yard with my bear, and

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Speaker 9: the the Americans are like, didn't this guy have a bullet?

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Speaker 9: And this is like a typical Canadian, what doesn't he

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Speaker 3: Yep, it's an interesting sociological experiment.

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Speaker 7: Typically in this situation, that bear would get a name.

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Speaker 4: Have you have you named him yet?

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Speaker 8: We mean of fat ass, just because.

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Speaker 4: I love it. That's perfect.

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Speaker 3: Have you have you had any contact with the local

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Speaker 8: No, we haven't.

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Speaker 9: But that's intentional on our parts because in North Vancouver,

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Speaker 9: there's the two extremes. People will like leave food out

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Speaker 9: it quiet, like enjoy the fact that the bears.

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Speaker 3: And well, I mean, it's got to be real satisfying

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Speaker 9: Bear door on the north side as well, because he

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Speaker 8: Yeah, two to three times a week.

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Speaker 9: And he I saw him this morning much further from

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Speaker 8: Doesn't bug any buddy.

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Speaker 9: Some people freaked out, and others kind of just watch

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Speaker 4: He's just a nice Canadian bear, just in trouble south

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well, I'm glad he's out there with you guys.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: And then when your studio reached out, I wanted to

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to put him up on my wall and.

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Speaker 9: This is as long as we understand that. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: Very cool. Well, thank you for sharing your story with us, Kurt,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, thanks very much, guys.

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Speaker 4: You all right?

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Speaker 6: Oh shoot, you know what, I totally forgot to make

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Speaker 8: Are you?

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Speaker 3: This is really randam It tells me to pause for sound.

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Speaker 3: Well the thing here's the thing is actually go on.

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Speaker 4: It's actually a really funny story because I just tail run.

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Speaker 4: It's all ready here.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna tell you I'm about the tracks you

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Speaker 3: byecause your weapon kids, goodbye.

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Speaker 4: Don't decide to desert you.

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Speaker 3: Oh I love that, nice randall I got Rickrolls nicely played,

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Speaker 3: Phil nicely played.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I lived my life on the internet like it's two

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Speaker 3: Don't we all?

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Speaker 4: Beautiful?

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Speaker 3: Beautiful time back then. The Red Report is where Mark

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Speaker 3: Kenyon gives a white tail hunting forecast for each region.

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Speaker 3: Take it away, Mark.

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Speaker 11: Hey, guys, Mark Kenyon. Here with wired Hunt coming at

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Speaker 11: you with the RUT report for October twenty fourth, twenty

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Speaker 11: have very many, if any doughs ready to breathe. That's

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Speaker 4: To be exciting.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited.

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Speaker 4: That gets me fired up.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can feel my testosterone levels rising.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: Our next segment is one Minute Fishing.

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Speaker 11: Do I feel lucky?

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Speaker 12: We'll do you punk, Go ahead, make my cast.

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Speaker 3: One Minute Fishing is where we go live to someone

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Speaker 3: and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars

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Speaker 3: Chris Mcaluso, who's on Lake Poncha Train in Louisiana and

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Speaker 4: Chris.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 13: Cold On Fellas how are y'all?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm doing fantastic. It looks like a beautiful day

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Speaker 10: Oh man, it is gorgeous.

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Speaker 13: You know, if I had to, you know, if I

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Speaker 10: But gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 13: Not a cloud in the sky, a little bit of

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Speaker 12: A bad day.

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Speaker 3: What do you go for today? C mac?

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Speaker 13: Well, you know, just about anything that bites. That's the

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Speaker 13: cool thing about the Lake Ponta train area is it's

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Speaker 13: We caught an alligator guard. But we've called a big

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Speaker 13: So it's just always one of my favorite times a

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Speaker 3: Lovely. What are you What are you rigged up? What's

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Speaker 13: Well, we we fished a variety of things. But as

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Speaker 12: Let's see if folks can see it.

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Speaker 13: Yah, voodoo shrimp about two and a half three feet

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Speaker 10: But things have slowed down a little bit.

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Speaker 10: So, uh, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't bode well for a sixty second contest here, Uh,

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Speaker 3: louill let us know. Are you are you ready to

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Speaker 4: I am ready to go.

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Speaker 8: Man, Let's see we can make this happen.

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Speaker 13: All right, he's been a spot where I've caught I've

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Speaker 3: All righty well, we'll reel up and we will begin

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Speaker 10: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, Chris mclusa one minute fishing for trcp.

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Speaker 4: Here we go.

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Speaker 13: I will spend it. Today's not really reflective of how

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Speaker 10: Fishing has been.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you guys, meat Eater crew was was all down

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Speaker 13: where we just thought pretty much whatever.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to to fight your stuff.

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Speaker 3: So let's see what we can make happen here, Phil,

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Speaker 3: how are we doing on time?

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Speaker 4: Got about twenty seconds left?

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Speaker 3: Twenty seconds on the clock.

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Speaker 13: Oh man, hop that cork poppin winny seconds.

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Speaker 10: The pressure.

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Speaker 13: I don't know if I could deal with the press fellas.

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Speaker 3: It'll be over soon, don't worry.

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Speaker 13: Oh, I just had a fight. Oh way, the court

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Speaker 13: went down and take straight back up.

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Speaker 6: Oh oh, that's the time right there.

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Speaker 3: That's your time, sixty seconds. We'll have to get you

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Speaker 3: back on here. Ce mac Man.

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Speaker 13: I'd be happy to anytime. I mean, you know, I

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Speaker 13: will like to, you know, throwing a plug for TRCP.

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Speaker 13: I mean, we're doing so much good work in the

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Speaker 13: other great work that the organization's doing on public lands

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Speaker 13: and water and everything else.

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Speaker 10: That we work on.

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Speaker 13: But you know, we're really making some headway on forge

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Speaker 13: fish conservation, make it some headway on improving data collection

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Speaker 13: for federal fisheries, and doing a lot of good habitat

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Speaker 3: Wonderful. Well, hopefully you won't catch too much flak on

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Speaker 3: the Monday morning leadership call for failing to secure that

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Speaker 3: back at any point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I don't suspect I'm gonna get a pink slip or anything,

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Speaker 13: but I appreciate the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: But they did just catch you out fishing on a Thursday.

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00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 3: Well I look, I mean, oh no, he's gone time there.

448
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 3: Oh no, Oh, that's disappointing. I always enjoy a chance

449
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 3: to chat with my friend Chris there.

450
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 4: Phil.

451
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 3: Do we have any listener feedback for today, anything that

452
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 3: needs addressing.

453
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 6: I've got a couple things here is these questions for

454
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 6: seth Oh. Are you planning to participate in any fishing

455
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 6: competitions with Chester in the near future? Thank you for

456
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 6: your answer.

457
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'd like Now Chester's in Wisconsin, I'd

458
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 4: like to get back and fish with those top notch

459
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 4: fishermen in the Upper Midwest, so hopefully we can make

460
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 4: some tournaments happen in Wisconsin.

461
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 3: Does the competition aspect of it is that appealing to

462
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 3: you or is it just another excuse to like get

463
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 3: out on the water X number of days this summer.

464
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 4: It's pretty appealing. I'm not like a very competitive person,

465
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 4: but when I was fishing those competitions here in Montana,

466
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 4: it made the fishing just like that much more fun.

467
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 4: Get your blood, boy, yeah, you know, just trying to

468
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 4: especially when you're fishing against a bunch of really good fishermen. Yeah,

469
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 4: it's like you just want to You just want to

470
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 4: do good. Just makes you fish harder, makes you fish smarter.

471
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 3: That's how I feel every day I come in this office.

472
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: I just want to do good.

473
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 6: This is a question for Randall. Yeah, it's from Matthew.

474
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 6: Has there been any interest or thought on an audiobook

475
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 6: on the history of Houndsman. Has this been a discussion

476
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 6: with Steve? There are groups in Texas trying to change

477
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 6: management from Mountain Lions and the stuff in Colorado.

478
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, lots going on in the hound hunting and

479
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 3: mountain lion hunting world. We have not actually talked about

480
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 3: an audio book specifically on the history of Houndsman. We

481
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 3: are working right now on the Mountain Men audiobook, and

482
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 3: then we have a whole slate of audio projects, history

483
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: based audio projects coming out until I've you know, I'll

484
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 3: be forty one, I think by the point we do

485
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: all that. So if you don't know how old I am,

486
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 3: that probably doesn't mean anything to you. Also means you

487
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 3: probably didn't watch the episode to host on my birthday.

488
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, that would be a great topic. And

489
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that I can think of any resources

490
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 3: out there that I've encountered that would cover that history

491
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: specifically about hound hunting, but it's certainly a fascinating subject.

492
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

493
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 6: Sure, Troy asks that he loves the Meater movie review.

494
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 6: Has there ever been any discussion about book reviews on

495
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 6: the live show. I'll pipe in here first and I'll

496
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 6: say we we're probably not going to do books on

497
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 6: the live show, just because movies are a lot more

498
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 6: digestible and we can and more people can watch them

499
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 6: before we do the live show.

500
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: But the truth is, Troy, we have trouble getting people

501
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: to read emails, much less works of fiction and non fiction.

502
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 6: If you listen to the Mediater podcast occasionally we do

503
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 6: a segment called Steve Read's Books, so you don't have

504
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 6: to Those are usually books that you probably don't want

505
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 6: to read anyway, unless you're a guy like Steve, which hey,

506
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 6: maybe you are. But yeah, maybe we'll do like a

507
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 6: more legitimate book reviews here.

508
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we appreciate the love for the for the movie Club.

509
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 3: It's very fun. It's one of the highlights of my

510
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: professional life. So uh yeah, maybe we'll have to think

511
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,959
Speaker 3: about books in the future.

512
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 4: I saw another comment there for Montana Walleye tour in caps,

513
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 4: just saying, oh, yeah, the people got to give the

514
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 4: people like the people want it.

515
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 3: It sounds like I'll write that down and we'll just

516
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 3: send that upstairs.

517
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I can only speak for myself, but the

518
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 6: people want it.

519
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

520
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 6: Great, keep sending in questions. We'll do this again at

521
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 6: the end of the show, and yeah, move it along here.

522
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 3: Thank you Phil. Our next segment is Show and Tell.

523
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: Mania Show down, Man to show.

524
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 4: It's been so brought a rock? What else did you spect?

525
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: Oh I'm sorry about that, just lost in the moment.

526
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: It's that sin, it's that synthesizer. It's so rich.

527
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's so rich.

528
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: It's like a hearty meal.

529
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 4: Just really quick.

530
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 6: Tyler says, thank god Spencer is in here with his rocks.

531
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 3: Oh I think we've got something much better than rocks

532
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 3: to share with you today, seth we do E're up first?

533
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: What'd you bring in today for Show and Tell?

534
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 4: I over the years have been collecting shell casings, and

535
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 4: I got a handful of them here.

536
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 8: M hmm.

537
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 4: These are my the ones that I have deemed to

538
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 4: be the more interesting ones that I've found over the years.

539
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 4: So let's see where do I want to start. Let's

540
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 4: start with this one. This one is head stamped thirty

541
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 4: Army super Speed. And this one I found in the deep,

542
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 4: deep dark spot on the Rocky Mountain Front. Actually, me

543
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: and my buddy Rick Haunting. We're hunting way back in

544
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 4: there one day and almost got cliffed out in the spot,

545
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 4: and we were kind of trying to pick our way

546
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 4: up through this really sketchy cliffy area and I threw

547
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 4: my foot up on a rock and heard some metal clinging,

548
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 4: and I looked down and this rifle case he was

549
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 4: sitting there and just one, just one, And I don't like.

550
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 4: I just thought to myself, like, you know what, maybe

551
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 4: we're not the only people that got ourselves into this

552
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 4: shitty situation.

553
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 3: That's that's the only place I like to find cigarette butts.

554
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 3: It's just like in a really weird place in the woods.

555
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. The next one I got here is headstamped seven

556
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: point nine FS nineteen thirty nine, and it has TC

557
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 4: on it with the little uh. It's like the crescent

558
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 4: moon with the star. I really don't know a whole

559
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 4: lot about it. I've done some research and it looks

560
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: like it's Turkish ammo.

561
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, A lot of those Eastern Bloc countries US use

562
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 5: those around.

563
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I found this in Montana on the edge

564
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 4: of a meadow and there was about five of them

565
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 4: sitting there in a pile.

566
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 3: So someone was either doing some target practice or some

567
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: bad hunting.

568
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 4: I think they. I think they they were shooting a

569
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 4: bowl and just yeah, you know, I wanted to get

570
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 4: just pump them until he's done type of thing. At

571
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 4: least that's what I think. Got another one here that

572
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 4: just says SL forty five, So Saint Louis Armory nineteen

573
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 4: forty five. This one I found lane right next to

574
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 4: a stone point oh wild in Montana.

575
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 3: What what must have got a good hunting spot.

576
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 4: That's thirty six, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. This one, from

577
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: my understanding, was brought home from World War Two for

578
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 4: my great grandfather. He fought fought in Battle of the Bulge.

579
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 4: It's head stamped r A for Remilton Arms nineteen forty

580
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 4: three fifty BMG. And then this one is my favorite.

581
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 4: I have no clue what it is. It seems to

582
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 4: be like a big boar buffalo cartridge. Uh huh, no

583
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 4: head stamping at all. It just has a tiny little

584
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 4: pinhole in it.

585
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 3: So not a real not a modern, not a pocket.

586
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 7: No, not a center fire.

587
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: If anyone knows what this could be, please reach out.

588
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 3: Throw it in the chat.

589
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 5: You haven't like figured out even what what caliber it is?

590
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: Nope, which which one of these? It's that the one

591
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 4: on the left, one on the left there?

592
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it doesn't have it's it's doesn't have

593
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: a it doesn't have like primer pocket. It doesn't have

594
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: a centerfire primer pocket.

595
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 4: I have no clue what it is.

596
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: Someone out there in the internet knows.

597
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: I found it in what would have been uh Crow

598
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 4: territory HM in Montana.

599
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: It's gotta be an old so an old old cartridge.

600
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, hard to say what it is, but yeah, that's

601
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: I found that when I was a little punting about

602
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 4: three years ago.

603
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: And the aggregate of your collection, how many do you

604
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: have at home? These are just the highlights.

605
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 4: Got a bucket I have about peanut butter jar ten

606
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: or twelve. I do have a jar of like shell

607
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 4: casings of either critters I've killed or just like random

608
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 4: ones I've found. But yeah, these are kind of the

609
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 4: cooler ones that I have.

610
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: Well, thanks for bringing them in. Appreciate it, Brody. What

611
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: did you bring for us today?

612
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 5: Well, Seth brought bullet cartridges and I brought guns.

613
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 8: Mmmm.

614
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 7: Guns that'll make you glad you have the guns you

615
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 7: can buy.

616
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: Now we are living in the golden age.

617
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 5: We'll start with this beauty here, which is a Model

618
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 5: sixty seven Winchester twenty two. This is my dad's first gun.

619
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 5: I think he got it used, so he would have

620
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,239
Speaker 5: got it like probably in the early fifties. It was

621
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 5: made probably in the forties, sold for like six bucks

622
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 5: back then, single shot Winchester twenty two. I shot a

623
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 5: lot of red squirrels with this, with this little sucker.

624
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: I like that the screw holding the barreled action into

625
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: the stock is just a big thumbscrew.

626
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah, you don't.

627
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 5: At some point my dad had a scope on here.

628
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 5: I never had a scope, and it's actually got it

629
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 5: o'clock yep. But we had to make a rear sight

630
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 5: for it, which is like it's not well done. But man,

631
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 5: I shot it pretty well when I was a little kid.

632
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 4: And that's just like a single shot yep.

633
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, we do the old it's not loaded, folks.

634
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: It looks like an old cock. Yeah.

635
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 5: You pull that that spring back.

636
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 4: That's safety.

637
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, and then you shouldn't shouldn't dry fire rim

638
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 5: fire guns. But yeah, that was It's a real safe

639
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: gun for a kid to learn on.

640
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: That's cool, very cool.

641
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 5: Then my first like real deer rifle. I think I

642
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 5: started hunt hunting with. Uh, sorry, Karan, I was pointing

643
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 5: at at you.

644
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: It looks like when you if you've drifted over here

645
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: a little bit, it looks like you're holding the muzzle

646
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: up to my head.

647
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think I started saying a shot. But

648
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 5: this is my first real rifle, and it's a Winchester

649
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 5: Model ninety four thirty thirty. Like millions of deer hunters

650
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 5: started out with a version of this rifle. This one

651
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 5: was made before nineteen eighty three, when Winchester went to

652
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 5: a side eject and angle eject. This this comes out

653
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 5: right out the top, right in your face, you know.

654
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 5: If you're cranking awesome shots at running deer, which was common.

655
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 4: Back in the day, that's what happened.

656
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 5: It's kind of a pain, really, And because it's a

657
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 5: topic jacked. You can see these old cheap scope mounts

658
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 5: that around her mount the scope offset, so you have

659
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 5: to like lean over to the side to look through

660
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 5: the scope. So yeah, it's a relic and uh, I'm

661
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 5: glad I still have it.

662
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 4: Very cool man, that is, there's a lot of Pennsylvania

663
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 4: deer hunters that ran that same set up for many years.

664
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I still want to I want to take it

665
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 5: out and kill something with it.

666
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: Would be a great lion gun. Yeah, be a great

667
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: lion gun.

668
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Speaker 4: Yep.

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00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: Well for for my show and tell today, I brought

670
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: this book. And this is a book that I got.

671
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: It was in my grandfather's stuff. It's called The Gods

672
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: Were Kind by William Willis and inside it is inscribed

673
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: to Biarna J. Moultou, who's my grandfather Norwegian? If you

674
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: are curious about the name. Who is chief mate on

675
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: the SS Kettarak, the last ship I served as a seaman, partner,

676
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: friend and great shipmate with good wishes every good wish.

677
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: William Willis nineteen fifty six. And I found this and

678
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: I didn't really know what it was. I'd never heard

679
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: of this guy. But it's the story of him sailing

680
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: alone with his parrot and his cat from South America

681
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: to American Samoa on a raft made of seven balsa logs.

682
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: So he went down to South America. He picked out

683
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: seven balsa trees. They cut him down, and then he

684
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 3: just went to Samoa at age sixty one.

685
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 5: What's a nautical mind? What's the distance on that little salem?

686
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: Six seven hundred miles on a homemade raft, on a

687
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: homemade raft and then wild. The best part is he

688
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: after he wrote this book, and again this is just

689
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: like one of those characters he discovered after he wrote

690
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: this book. At the age of seventy one, he sailed

691
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: ten thousand miles from South America to Australia. And then

692
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: at age seventy four, he disappeared while trying to cross

693
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: the Atlantic, the North Atlantic at age seventy four.

694
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 7: Two out of three ain't bad.

695
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: No, not bad at all. They found his boat, he

696
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: was not on it, but they found his ship's log.

697
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 4: So wow.

698
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: Interesting character. And this book has significance to me because

699
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 3: it's where I first learned that mahi mahi were also

700
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: called dolphin, because I was reading this book at like

701
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 3: twelve years old, and I was like, man, he's killing

702
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: a lot of dolphins. He's just He's like, I caught

703
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 3: some more dolphins. I saw some dolphins. I killed them.

704
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: I ate them so like, I started baiting some hooks

705
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: with dolphin heads and I just thought this was very,

706
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: very strange, and so yeah, that opened my eyes to

707
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: the nomenclature that we use for that fish. I have

708
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: another sort of silly show, and tell Phil if you'll

709
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: bring that picture up. This photo is the other thing

710
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: I'd like to share with you guys. This week we

711
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 3: are recording Meet Eaters American History, volume two, about the

712
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: Mountain Men, and this photo was taken by yours truly

713
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: on Tuesday after a lunch of Thai food, and Steve

714
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 3: laid down and he attempted to use the helmet as

715
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: a pillow, but the extuar of the helmet, he found

716
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: the shell was too hard, so he thought, I wonder

717
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: if it feels good if I put my head in there,

718
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: which he did, and then he proceeded to take a

719
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: ten minute catnap on this very carpeted floor. So please

720
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: know that we are hard at work on the next

721
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: volume of Mediat's American History. And Steve did say because

722
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: he ate a bunch of noodles, and he said, I thought,

723
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: he's like I thought, marathon runners eat a bunch of noodles.

724
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: Before they run marathons. How do they do that? And

725
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: I said, I think you're supposed to do it the

726
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 3: night before. They're not hawking down spaghetti like immediately before

727
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: the race. So everybody learned something, alrighty. Our next segment

728
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: is a hot tip off. Hot tip Off time. Hot

729
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: tip off is where two members of the crew go

730
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: head to head with competing pieces of advice, and after

731
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: we hear each tip, we'll declare which one is hotter.

732
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 3: Take it away, Phil.

733
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 11: Mark Kenyon, Hey, guys, Mark Kenyon, here for another hot

734
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 11: tip off. And here's my suggestion for you. Pay more

735
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 11: attention to tracks. If you are out there hunting white

736
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 11: tails trying to kill a buck, especially a mature buck,

737
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 11: it's really useful to know exactly what you're looking for

738
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 11: when you're trying to figure out is this a dough track,

739
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 11: is this a buck track? Is this a big old

740
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 11: mature buck track. The best way I found to learn

741
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 11: how to identify a mature buck track is to actually

742
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 11: get a real mature buck hoof and test it for yourself. Now,

743
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 11: this is obviously not a real mature buck hoof. I

744
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 11: don't have that, But what I have done in the

745
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 11: past is taken off the hoof of a mature buck

746
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 11: I've killed, and then go take it and press it

747
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 11: into the dirt, press it into mud, press it in

748
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 11: at different angles, go to different types of locations, and

749
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 11: see what that buck's hoof print actually looked like in

750
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 11: real life. And then you will know yourself this kind

751
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 11: of buck makes that kind of track. It's an incredible

752
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 11: and simple way to get better identifying mature buck tracks.

753
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 11: And you can do it if you kill at least

754
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 11: one mature buck in your life. Save that hoof, test

755
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 11: it out. See what a mature buck print looks like

756
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 11: in the rain, See what it looks like in a

757
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 11: dusty sandy soil. It's very interesting, very helpful.

758
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: Jason Philps, I'm Jason Phelps, and here's my hot tip

759
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: here in New Mexico archery all cutting. It's been getting

760
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: pretty windy in the evenings, you know, from about three

761
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: to five, and one thing I wanted to share is

762
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: how I'm planning my evening hunts and even my morning

763
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: hunts is I will put a waypoint where I think

764
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: those elk a at and I will add wind to

765
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: that point so I can see what the active wind

766
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: is doing. You know, for instance, right now, it's blowing

767
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: seven miles an hour out of the southwest. I then

768
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: add in what are the thermals doing? Is the sun

769
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: hitting that face the creek draws, is they're running water,

770
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: you know how the wind could be affecting it, And

771
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: then I will plan my approach that way. That way,

772
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: there's no chance those elk are ever gonna you know,

773
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: smell me. So yeah, I'm always looking at that wind.

774
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm checking when I get up in the morning before

775
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: I go to an area. Maybe I have to, you know,

776
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: go to an area a different direction than then as

777
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: the easiest direction. So add those waypoints, plan your hunts

778
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: that way, and you're never gonna fool in elk's nose.

779
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: So I'm always using this to make sure my approaches

780
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: are good as I'm calling my way into elk because

781
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm approaching elk, because I'm hunting elk just in general,

782
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, even for rifle hunters that are still hunting,

783
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: this is even more important.

784
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 12: At least I can hear these oaks.

785
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 3: So that's my hot tip.

786
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: Use on ex waypoints in the wind feature, and I

787
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: think you're gonna you know, and you find it very useful.

788
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: It's been pretty spot on this entire hunt.

789
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: Alrighty two hot tips there before you guys way in

790
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: and I hope you consider the uh the two tips

791
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 3: you've just heard. I saw perhaps what is my favorite

792
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: listener comment of all time here?

793
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 8: Uh.

794
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 3: Someone commented in regards to the mustache list Mark Kenyon,

795
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 3: is this Marks a strange teenage son? Yes? Mark does

796
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: look quite young when he gets rid of his facial hair.

797
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: So yeah.

798
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 6: Michael also asked why we keep showing this little kid?

799
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 6: And does he have working papers?

800
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 4: Oh, it's a crying shame that, yeah, got rid of

801
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 4: his mustage.

802
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

803
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: I don't know what labor law is in Michigan, but yeah,

804
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 3: we could run into some hot water if we keep

805
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: showing Mark without his mustache.

806
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 4: There.

807
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: Thank you both for those comments. That really made my day.

808
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 6: All right, we have a lot of votes for Phelps already,

809
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 6: just just to get the get in front of.

810
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: This all right, seth, what are your thoughts here?

811
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 4: Well, not a very popular opinion around these parts, but

812
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: I like whitetails more. Nelk, So I'm going with the

813
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 4: young boy Mark Kenyon.

814
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 3: But is that I mean, are you considering the actual

815
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: utility of the.

816
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: Tip and knowing what a big whitetail track looks like

817
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 4: is very helpful.

818
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, Brody.

819
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 5: I gotta go with felt because it's just applicable to

820
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,479
Speaker 5: way more than elk.

821
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 4: That's true.

822
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 7: It's like, you know, name a big game.

823
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 5: Species and that tip is you can apply it.

824
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. What I appreciated the most about Mark's tip

825
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 3: was I imagined him rolling around a golf bag with different

826
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: age hoofs in it because he's He's like, you want

827
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 3: to get a big buck hoof this this is just

828
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: this is another bucks.

829
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 4: I'll take the three and a half year old. I think.

830
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 3: You wouldn't have exactly, Yeah, he's got he doesn't have

831
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 3: that many big buck hoofs laying around. But yeah, I

832
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that. I have to agree, I think

833
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: with Brody and what seems to be the consensus of

834
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: the audience here.

835
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 8: I like.

836
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: I like the tip from Phelps. I do think, uh,

837
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: you know, a tip that you can carry with you

838
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 3: in any different situation just makes you Yeah, as a hunter.

839
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 5: Spot in stock, walk into a tree stand in the dark,

840
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 5: like that tip will work. It's not just an elk

841
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 5: elk hunting you know.

842
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: Tip M hm. Uh, I guess you could do the

843
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: the white tail tip with Elk and you know, bear hunting.

844
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: But it's a lot of weight to haul around.

845
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, a little, a little bigger hoof.

846
00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah alrighty, So Phelps one, Phelps one. Congratulations to Jason Phelps.

847
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 6: And he doesn't want anything.

848
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: He can't make a donation.

849
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 6: Hey, no, we ran out of money because you just

850
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 6: got too many perfect games.

851
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: Oh I forgot about that, thanks Phil. Yeah, yeah, we had.

852
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 3: We had quite an interesting day on Monday. This week,

853
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: we'll have to tune into future Trivia episodes. Our next

854
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: guest today is Dante Perreno.

855
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

856
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: He's coming to us live from Baldwinsville, New York, and

857
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 3: Dante recently caught a state record smallmouth bass, but chose

858
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: to release it before the New York Department of Environmental

859
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: Conservation could inspect the fish and verify the record. Dante,

860
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.

861
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 12: Hey guys, thanks for having me on.

862
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 3: So, Dante, thanks for joining us. I understand you had

863
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 3: a pretty good day on the water about a month ago.

864
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: Can you tell us what you were doing that morning

865
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 3: and how things started out?

866
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 14: Yeah, so it was a New York bassination Federation tournament

867
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 14: out of August. So I was on the Saint Lawrence

868
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 14: and it runs about one hundred miles to the mouth

869
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 14: of the Lake Ontario, and it was probably like a

870
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 14: seventy five mile run to where I was going, and

871
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 14: it was an area that I wasn't really familiar with.

872
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 14: I just found it Friday morning before I was bringing

873
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 14: my grandfather a load of frozen walleye before the tournament

874
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 14: that weekend there. It was a shortened day Friday, but

875
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 14: I had to make sure he was taken care of.

876
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 14: And then, yeah, I was honestly pretty crazy. Rolled in

877
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 14: there and caught two small ones and I was debating

878
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 14: about leaving, and I was kind of waiting for the

879
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 14: lake to lay down a little bit and hooked into

880
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 14: that giant fish and that cut me around for pretty

881
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 14: much the rest of the day before I had to

882
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 14: make the run back.

883
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 3: Can you tell us a little bit about the technique

884
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: you're using or the lower tackle or anything like that.

885
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 14: Yeah, So I was using garment live scope out in

886
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 14: about thirty feet and kind of just tracking him down

887
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 14: and there wasn't a lot of fish around, but I

888
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 14: was using a three eight ounce ned rigg heard with

889
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 14: Berkeley maxcent flat.

890
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 12: Nose minnow nice.

891
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 14: So it's real small, subtle presentation and just utilizing electronics

892
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 14: to find them and hunt them down. But I was

893
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 14: throwing it on a seven foot medium Fantasy's premiere Abu

894
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 14: Garcia with a revolt rocket.

895
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 5: I assume you knew you knew you had tied into

896
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 5: something pretty big when you hooked it, but like, what

897
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 5: was the reaction when you saw it next to the boat?

898
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 12: Yeah, I knew.

899
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 14: I thought it was like a six founder, Like I

900
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 14: knew it was like a good one. So it was fighting,

901
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 14: it was fighting hard and obviously was pretty heavy. And

902
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 14: then I was alone, didn't have a co English, so

903
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 14: I netted it myself. And then once I tried to

904
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 14: flop it in with like one arm with a net

905
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 14: and laid it down, and what a physit. I don't

906
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 14: know if you're familiar with fizzic some fish from deep water.

907
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 14: So I threw it on the live well lid and

908
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 14: then it was like covered up the whole live bult

909
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 14: lid and it was.

910
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 12: A it was a freak.

911
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: Could you explain the fizzing for folks that might not

912
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: Are you familiar with it?

913
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 12: Yeah?

914
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 14: So I like to relate it to like if you

915
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 14: were to go swimming in a pool or swimming anywhere

916
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 14: and you go to try to swim to the bottom,

917
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 14: like you'll feel that pressure on your ears. Like it's

918
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 14: a similar thing with fish. They have an air bladder,

919
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 14: so whenever you you don't even have to really pull

920
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 14: them out of deep water, but essentially whenever a fish

921
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 14: comes up and change an elevation happens really quick, then

922
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 14: their air bladder will like puff up. You keep them

923
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 14: out of the water for like maybe more than a

924
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 14: minute to thirty seconds. So use like a little needle

925
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 14: with a plastic insert from New York's Barbelly. It makes

926
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 14: like the best one in my opinion. But you basically

927
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 14: prick the fish in this air bladder like four spine

928
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 14: over lined up with the anal poor just basically directly

929
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 14: behind their one fin, and you'll lay them in the

930
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 14: water in the live bulb kind of in your hand

931
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 14: and level them out and you'll release the air and

932
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 14: it'll bubble out. But you want to make sure you

933
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 14: prick it obviously in the right place, and you'll let

934
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 14: it bubble out and just kind of hold it in

935
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 14: your hands like this until the fish will right itself

936
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 14: and then once it writes itself, should be good to.

937
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 12: Live all day.

938
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 14: Because I caught that fish early, and that was my

939
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 14: first thing, was like I was thinking. I was like,

940
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 14: I keep this thing alive because it was early on

941
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 14: in the day and they had an eighty mile run

942
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 14: back into the hot summer day.

943
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

944
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: And just so folks are clear, I know, like in

945
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: Alaska you're required to pop the air bladder on some

946
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: of those fish before you release them. But this is

947
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 3: not required. You're just doing this. This is an extra

948
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: step you're taking to make sure that fish survives.

949
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

950
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean it's true.

951
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 14: It's preached more and more in tournaments up here because

952
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 14: there's a lot of folks that fish tournaments on the

953
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 14: Saint Lawrence and more and more that are coming to

954
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 14: that aren't accustomed to catching deep small mouth or deep

955
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 14: fish wherever. Yeah, so try to preach that the best

956
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 14: we can to keep this fishery healthy.

957
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. In Alaska, we're required to carry what's called a

958
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 4: deep release. Oh that's right. Yeah, that's what you Basically

959
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 4: they come up like you'll catch a rock fish comes up,

960
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: the bladders hanging out of its mouth, eyes are all

961
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 4: puffed out and then you release, You basically send them

962
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 4: back to the bottom with a bunch of weight.

963
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 3: Yep, that's what I was thinking of. Yeah, I misspoke

964
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: the deeper least rig uh Dante. I mean, did you

965
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: did you know it was a small mouth the whole time?

966
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: Or were you curious at all?

967
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 8: Like?

968
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: What do I have on here? Are you just like

969
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: this is a big smally, just business as usual.

970
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 14: I was hoping it wasn't a drum, Like it crossed

971
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 14: through my head that it might be a drum, just

972
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 14: because it was like the way it was fighting, was

973
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 14: coming all the way to the boat and then swimming

974
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 14: all the way back down so you'll run into freshwater.

975
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 14: Drum or cheap had cheap said is what other people

976
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 14: call them. But I was pretty certain it was it

977
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 14: was a bass, just the way you could kind of

978
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 14: feel them shaking their head whenever you're fighting.

979
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 12: So usually the drums like a couple of real.

980
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 14: Long runs, but the pass tend to like, I don't know,

981
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 14: you can catch a lot of them and you're in

982
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 14: the zone. You can almost feel like they're the head

983
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 14: shape and it feels like a bass. But I was

984
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 14: just hoping that it was and it wasn't a drum basically.

985
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: So you so then you kept fishing for the day.

986
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 12: Yeah.

987
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 14: So I was in points standing wise, it's like three

988
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 14: cumulative tournaments and they take the top six in the state,

989
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 14: and I was like behind in the stands. So I

990
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 14: needed to catch like twenty eight to thirty pounds in

991
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 14: order to make the top six. So I know as

992
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 14: soon as I caught that I need to catch like

993
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 14: four more minimum five pounders.

994
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 12: In order to even have a shot.

995
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 14: So it was just like visit it through the light,

996
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 14: bull checked like five minutes later to make sure it

997
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 14: was standing up straight and looked healthy as a whrse.

998
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 14: So just kept going throughout the day and it was

999
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 14: pretty pretty crazy day full of emotions.

1000
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 3: So the record has not crossed your mind yet, You're

1001
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: just solely focused on that total at the end of

1002
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: the day.

1003
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 14: Yeah, I didn't even like once I voted it, Like

1004
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 14: I didn't even really think about the record at all,

1005
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 14: And not until I got all the way back to

1006
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 14: weigh in and weighed it and then the scale at

1007
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 14: nine even, and a few guys were like saying, I

1008
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 14: call the DC, called the DC, and they're like, that's

1009
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 14: a new state record. I knew it was an eight

1010
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 14: and changed from Kyuga, but I didn't really.

1011
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 5: What what what is the existing state record?

1012
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 14: So it was eight pounds and six ounces. But the

1013
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 14: near DC did certify the one that I caught over

1014
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 14: the last couple of weeks, I think if they've made

1015
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 14: it official.

1016
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 12: So I got them all.

1017
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 14: The witnesses signatures, length, girth, and then all the scale

1018
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 14: certification and calibration and everything that they needed to get official.

1019
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 14: But yeah, like you said, I mean, whenever we called them,

1020
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 14: they said that they didn't have an EOC officer that

1021
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 14: could come on site. So they're like, you, if you

1022
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 14: want the record officially, then you have to keep it,

1023
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 14: put it on ice.

1024
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, we'll call the next day.

1025
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 14: But like, we're not saying that you're gonna get it.

1026
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 14: We're not saying you're not going to get it if

1027
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 14: you release it.

1028
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: Sure, So so if you were to, if you would

1029
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: have held onto that fish and killed it, you could

1030
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 3: have been sort of guaranteed that this would get certified.

1031
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: But instead you you trusted that or at least you

1032
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: wanted to release it enough that you'd rather the fish

1033
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: survive and go through sort of through the more I

1034
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: guess the less certain route of taking all those steps

1035
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: to certify it.

1036
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly.

1037
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 14: I mean I didn't want to selfishly take that fish's

1038
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 14: life over. I mean it had to bend twenty to

1039
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 14: twenty five years old in order to get nine pounds.

1040
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 4: So wow, that's awesome. How did you end up that

1041
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 4: day in the tournament?

1042
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 14: I ended up when I had thirty one and change

1043
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 14: thirty one point four I think was a total for

1044
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 14: best five.

1045
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 12: So I ended up taking it home and.

1046
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: Then quite a day.

1047
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 4: Congrats, I appreciate it.

1048
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 12: Thank you.

1049
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 3: So when you rolled up to the way and then

1050
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 3: you should pulled that fish out, I mean, what was

1051
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: the reaction from from the dock there?

1052
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, everyone was going crazy. I doesn't really expect in it.

1053
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 14: And then like I turned around to like grab it

1054
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 14: out of the bag and then hold it up, and

1055
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 14: it was like, I don't know, twenty thirty people standing

1056
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 14: there with all their phones out, like freaking out. So

1057
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 14: it was it's kind of crazy.

1058
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, And what was your what was your previous big

1059
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 3: prior to that? Just like in your in your life

1060
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 3: of fishing.

1061
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 14: I caught a seven pound, two ounce one in July

1062
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 14: practicing for the thousand Island open out of Kingston. Gotch

1063
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 14: was that one was like old and the crap had

1064
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 14: like definitely passed its prime. Yeah, this fit like healthy

1065
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 14: and built. So this one was it looked a lot different.

1066
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 14: But like in my whenever I got that seven pounder

1067
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 14: of the boat, it was just like so old that

1068
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 14: so many just beat up marks on it that it

1069
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 14: looked almost looked bigger than this one. But this one

1070
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 14: that just built with shoulders and had a crazy frame

1071
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 14: on it.

1072
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 3: So that's awesome.

1073
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 4: That is awesome.

1074
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 8: So uh.

1075
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 3: Are you So do you have more tournaments up ahead?

1076
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 8: Then?

1077
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's kind of all downhill from here.

1078
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 3: Right with the a state record smally and a big day,

1079
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: I mean, what's what's next for you?

1080
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 12: It's only gonna be hard to top that.

1081
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 14: But I mean it ran into some unfortunate Look, last

1082
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 14: weekend was the last tournament up on the river, and

1083
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 14: and I had my lower unit go out, So I

1084
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 14: was planning on doing the sixty second fish. Oh yeah,

1085
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 14: it's a fish with you guys, But yeah, we'll get you.

1086
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 3: So we'll have to get you back on for that.

1087
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: I have a feeling you might be a competitive candidate.

1088
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 14: When you guys messed me a few weeks ago, and

1089
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 14: then last weekend it literally just went out. So I'm

1090
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 14: gonna be down for a few weeks, but hopefully I'll

1091
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 14: still be able to get out in November and just

1092
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 14: catch some fish for fun because they're they're definitely plugging

1093
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 14: that time of yere.

1094
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 3: Nice well, Dante, We appreciate you coming on. It's an

1095
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 3: awesome story. Congrats on the fish, and kudos to you

1096
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 3: for releasing it. You know, it's it's it seems like

1097
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 3: it wasn't a question in your mind, but you did

1098
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 3: the right thing for that fish, and uh, it's just

1099
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 3: a very cool story all around.

1100
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 12: Thanks man, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.

1101
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you.

1102
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 4: Thanks show.

1103
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 12: Thanks man, have a good one.

1104
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 4: That's a fish guy that you can tell. Oh yeah,

1105
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 4: fishy guy.

1106
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just like he's he's a cool customer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I would like to fish with him someday.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling he has a few spots he

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Speaker 3: could take us too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, gang, I'm sorry to say, but that brings us

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Speaker 3: to the end of the show. Save for some listener comments, Phil,

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Speaker 3: what do you got for us? Last call for comments, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: now drop them in the chat. Please please.

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Speaker 6: Also, if you guys want, there's a really easy thing

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00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 6: you can do for those who keep coming to the

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Speaker 6: show live or miss it or whatever. If you go

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Speaker 6: to your YouTube settings. There's if you go to the

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Speaker 6: met eater podcast network account, because it's usually like a

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Speaker 6: little bell somewhere that you can click next to the

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Speaker 6: subscribe button. And if you're thinking, oh, I don't want

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Speaker 6: to be notified every time they put out a podcast episode,

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Speaker 6: because sometimes they put out an episode every day, sometimes two,

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Speaker 6: you can just you can change your settings that you

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Speaker 6: get a notification only when we go live for for

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Speaker 6: a live stream, and this is the only program in

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Speaker 6: which we do that. So if you want to get

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Speaker 6: notified every time this show goes live, so you don't

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Speaker 6: miss it, and you can watch it at work, hide

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Speaker 6: it from your boss, but your boss guess what, he's

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Speaker 6: also watching it?

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Speaker 3: Most likely, Yeah, everybody's tuning in.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's tuning in.

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Speaker 6: And also we will post this live and so in

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Speaker 6: your subscription feed you'll see it. I'm going to try

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Speaker 6: to do it the night before now. And then there's

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Speaker 6: a little notify me button on the individual video. So

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Speaker 6: if you just want to get notified about a single video,

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Speaker 6: you can do that as well.

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Speaker 4: So that's one thing you can do.

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Speaker 3: Can we get a round of applause in the chat

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00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: for Phil here, because he's just taking this live show

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Speaker 3: to the next level.

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Speaker 4: By by by reminding you to turn on your notifications? Yeah?

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00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you got for a film?

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Speaker 6: Docton asks Utah proposed change to the changes to the

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00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 6: rifle and muzzleloader hunts on my unit for the next

1149
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 6: five years. They proposed open site rifles and traditional muzzleoaders, flintlock,

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Speaker 6: et cetera. They want to increase deer herd's opinions.

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Speaker 5: I'm not fall open site rifle and true, I think

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Speaker 5: it's just that they took away the option to use

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Speaker 5: a scope generally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think there are a couple of

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Speaker 3: different places across the West that are considering making some

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Speaker 3: changes to the legal technology. Yeah, it's it's a tough question.

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Speaker 3: It's tough. It's tough to roll things back once guys

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Speaker 3: are using them and they're and they're used to them.

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Speaker 3: But I think, you know, if that's what needs to

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Speaker 3: be done to conserve the resource, and that's what the

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Speaker 3: state or the managers think is most appropriate. It's kind

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Speaker 3: of hard to argue with it, but I'm just not

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Speaker 3: familiar enough with that particular proposal.

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Speaker 5: It's like roll like you said, rolling back, kind of

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Speaker 5: like a traditional use pattern. Like I don't know, that's

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Speaker 5: hard man, Like I like, I'd rather see him cut

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Speaker 5: tag numbers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I'm curious, is, like, have they is

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Speaker 3: it the case that they've cut tag numbers and they're

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Speaker 3: cut still and the and the shortened seasons and they

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Speaker 3: still don't if this is the last tool in the toolbox.

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Speaker 3: I guess I sure and understand it. But yeah, rolling

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Speaker 3: things back and taking things away.

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Speaker 5: There's an argument to be made, like a serious argument

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Speaker 5: to be made against doing that, simply because you could

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Speaker 5: say you're less accurate, more wounded deer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Always think about that when when you know it's it's

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Speaker 3: there's not a right answer, no, but like, yes, certain

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Speaker 3: technologies are more effective and for better or worse, like

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Speaker 3: that might lead to increased harvest, but it also probably

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Speaker 3: hopefully leads to less you know, wound laws.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Brent is asking Randall, is it cheating if I

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Speaker 6: have to google the spelling of a meat eater crossword

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Speaker 6: ansle answer. It sucks to suck at spelling as someone

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Speaker 6: who just got dinged for a for a misspelled word

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Speaker 6: the other day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would like to point out I I

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Speaker 3: appreciate the support and the YouTube comments. I did think

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Speaker 3: that crystalis should have counted if chrysalis is the answer,

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Speaker 3: And I noticed that there are quite a few of

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Speaker 3: you out there who agreed with me and I your

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Speaker 3: support is acknowledged and appreciated.

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Speaker 6: It was acknowledged by me as well as well, but

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Speaker 6: not as appreciated as much.

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Speaker 3: I guess. I guess it depends on how you're googling

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Speaker 3: the spelling. That seems like a slippery slope. So you're

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Speaker 3: typing in the misspelled word to get the right word,

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Speaker 3: or are you saying, like I'm trying to think of this.

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Speaker 4: Word, how do you spell?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Well, my opinion is that it's only going to slow

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Speaker 6: you down, and that's a longer time is going to

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Speaker 6: bring your score down. So by googling spelling, you're kind

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Speaker 6: of just you're shooting yourself in the knee.

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Speaker 5: There and at a certain point it's just going to

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Speaker 5: cause you to not get the next.

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Speaker 4: Series of yeah. Correct.

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Speaker 3: My general crossword philosophy is some days I will not

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Speaker 3: look at any hints and I won't flip over any tiles.

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Speaker 3: I mean not on the meat Eater crossword, of course,

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Speaker 3: But like when I'm in the New York Times, some

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Speaker 3: days I hold myself very honest and accountables, and some

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Speaker 3: days I just want to have fun doing a crossboard

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Speaker 3: and so so you know, you're playing against yourself. It's

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00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 3: kind of like golf. So just you know, if you

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Speaker 3: have to wipe a stroke every now and then, I

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Speaker 3: don't think there's anything wrong with that, Seth.

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Speaker 6: This is this is one a single question. But when

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Speaker 6: you were doing going over your show and tell stuff,

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Speaker 6: there was an ongoing conversation happening in the live chat

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Speaker 6: about what some of those rounds might be. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 6: giving you tips, but this is honestly, this is a question.

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Speaker 6: But this is me Phil giving you a tip, Seth

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Speaker 6: to maybe revisit the live chat after the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: because there was some discussion happening that was over my head.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, Ife, it won't be over you go through it.

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Speaker 4: I'll go through it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And this is for all of you. If each

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Speaker 6: of you could propose one very specific topic for an

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Speaker 6: upcoming book in the med Eater lineup?

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Speaker 4: What would your topic be?

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Speaker 6: And I'd say sky's the limit here, not like realistically,

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Speaker 6: like you personally, if you could pitch a book to

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Speaker 6: be published as a part of the mediat lineup, something

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Speaker 6: that really that you're really into.

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Speaker 3: Boy, Boy, that's tough. That is tough, because I have

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Speaker 3: a pile of books that need to be written, as

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Speaker 3: does Brody.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we've got there's plenty of books in your future

1241
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 5: coming from Meat Eater. I recently and I still would

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Speaker 5: like to see it happen. We a few years, several

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00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 5: years back, we did the hunting guide books, the Big

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00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 5: Game in small game hunting guide books. I one of

1245
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Speaker 5: my recent pitches is doing a similar thing with fishing.

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00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 5: But we were testing the waters to see if there's

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Speaker 5: a demand for it or not. So send us if

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Speaker 5: you want it, send us a message.

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Speaker 4: As a photographer here at meat Eater, I wouldn't mind

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Speaker 4: seeing just a fantastically beautiful coffee table book.

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Speaker 5: Of which has been we pitched that up, all the

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Speaker 5: all the.

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Speaker 4: Photos that have been taken over the years here. Be

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Speaker 4: pretty cool.

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Speaker 5: Wouldn't be cheap though, No, not, no glossy coffee table

1256
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Speaker 5: books are, but it would be worth it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, collectors.

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Speaker 3: Worth every penny, I think. Yeah, I think so even

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Speaker 3: if you could, you know, if you could get some

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Speaker 3: autograph copies, maybe do a limited release of Seth Morris

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Speaker 3: autograph copies.

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Speaker 4: I like that idea.

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Speaker 3: I think my idea that's just come to me now.

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Speaker 3: It's not something that I've been dreaming up, but I

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Speaker 3: think it would be useful to have like a sort

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Speaker 3: of a reference and history about you know, public lands,

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Speaker 3: the North American model, explaining different land management agencies and

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Speaker 3: their history and sort of what their priorities are as

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Speaker 3: an agency, and just sort of giving people the vocabulary

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Speaker 3: and context to talk about policy that affects hunters and anglers,

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Speaker 3: you know, in a way that's like conversational.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like that's the challenge is to yeah.

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Speaker 3: Because you can get bogged down and like the the

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Speaker 3: legally and the administrative and bureaucratic jargon. But obviously, like

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Speaker 3: there's no shortage of interest in that from our audience.

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01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 3: Like people love that stuff and they want to know

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Speaker 3: more and they want to be more involved. So I

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Speaker 3: think like a sand dictionary or encyclopedia of conservation would be.

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Speaker 7: I think it's like.

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Speaker 5: Out being out here in the West, you're just like

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Speaker 5: kind of automatically more burst in that stuff. Like I'm

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Speaker 5: sure there's a lot of like I didn't know what

1283
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 5: in hell BLM was when I lived in Pennsylvania, right,

1284
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 5: So there's like a lot of things that a lot

1285
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 5: of people from other parts of the country that could

1286
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 5: they could learn a lot, you know.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no. I remember when I was when I

1288
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: was in college, I was finishing up and I really

1289
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 3: wanted to go bear hunting, and I wanted to go

1290
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Speaker 3: to Montana, and I wanted to go bear hunting in Montana.

1291
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Speaker 3: And I remember having this realization like National Forest, you

1292
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Speaker 3: can hunt on National Forest. And then I looked at

1293
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Speaker 3: a map of Montana and saw the green on the map,

1294
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, of course I can go

1295
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: shoot a bear there like practically half the state.

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Speaker 8: You know.

1297
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Speaker 3: And but that was like a moment that opened my

1298
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 3: eyes when I realized like that these lands are accessible

1299
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Speaker 3: and opened all and opened to hunting because I was

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Speaker 3: more familiar coming from the East or the Midwest with

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01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 3: you know, national parks and the more sort of hands

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Speaker 3: off public lands. So that's my that's my half cooked

1303
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 3: book pitch, which maybe should be a new segment.

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Speaker 6: Here Iron Hops asks if he should get Jack White

1305
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 6: tickets tonight or banked his bank time for the rut

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01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 6: here in Wisconsin. The answer is Jack White tickets. Next question,

1307
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Speaker 6: Come on, Randall, this is your first time in the

1308
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Speaker 6: program since Louisiana. Oh, just like, get me a quick

1309
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 6: fishing update, man.

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Speaker 3: Louisiana was a lot of fun, met a lot of

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Speaker 3: people from all around the country. Everybody had their own,

1312
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 3: like you know, personal passion hunting and fishing speaking, so

1313
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,479
Speaker 3: we got to like just talk to people about deer

1314
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 3: hunting or pig hunting or whatever they did. But the

1315
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 3: fishing was fantastic. Every day we went out and kind

1316
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 3: of had a different program, Like we fished different looking stuff,

1317
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 3: caught a bunch of different fish, different species. It was

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01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 3: consistent throughout the day, which is nice. Like you'd get

1319
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: into him starting right out of the first thing in

1320
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Speaker 3: the morning, and then you'd be catching him up till lunchtime,

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Speaker 3: and then you never know when you get a big

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01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 3: and yeah, we had some big black drum, some big

1323
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 3: red fish.

1324
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 4: You kind of never know what you're gonna get.

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01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 3: You never know what you're gonna get Yeah, we were

1326
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 3: fishing this one redfish spot and we'd caught a couple

1327
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 3: out of there, and then I hooked something that just

1328
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 3: went straight out into the gulf, like under the boat

1329
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 3: and straight out to the gulf, just ripping line and

1330
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 3: popped off, and the guy it's like, oh, that was

1331
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 3: a shark. And Steve cast in the same place like

1332
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 3: thirty seconds later and another struck grabbed it and he

1333
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 3: actually boted that. But it was just like, yeah, I mean,

1334
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 3: coming from a place where you're either catching a trout

1335
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: or a whitefish, you know, it's cool to be in

1336
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 3: a real diverse fishery.

1337
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. We caught a lot of different species.

1338
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 3: And then we went out on the dock and just

1339
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 3: caught weird catfish. Yeah, that was a lot of fun.

1340
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 4: And there was big garb rolling right grolling.

1341
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 3: In a wild place, a lot of pelicans just like

1342
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 3: a super cool birds. Skaters, skaters. Yeah, I loved it.

1343
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 3: I loved it.

1344
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, cool, cool place.

1345
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 6: And Michael we address this, addressed this at the top

1346
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 6: of the show. He's asking about the trivia win being overturned.

1347
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 4: Brody seems very unbothered by it. If he has bothered,

1348
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 4: he's hiding it very well.

1349
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think if you Michael, I think

1350
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 5: if you look back at the last several episodes, you know,

1351
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 5: I've like, I beat Randall a bunch, so I got

1352
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 5: to give him a win here.

1353
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 4: It's true, you.

1354
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 3: Know, that's all the time we had. I'm just joking.

1355
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 3: We can have a couple more questions.

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01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 6: Oh no, anything good, Phil, I was gonna end it

1357
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 6: there as well.

1358
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 3: Sorry you want to end it on a low note, No,

1359
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 3: I'm really well, I guess it's a high note because

1360
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 3: he's reminding us that I did win that game.

1361
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

1362
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Gang, appreciate you tuning in. It's always a

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01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 3: pleasure to do this and a lot of fun to

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01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 3: read the chat. So signing off for Meat Eater Radio Live.

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Speaker 4: Howdios, see you next time.