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Speaker 1: what is a Mark and James. You're back with the

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Speaker 1: Mets UF podcast. Gonna talk to you about this just

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Speaker 1: deplorable Cleveland Guardian series.

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Speaker 1: I've seen the Mets play in the recent recent history.

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Speaker 1: Just awful, awful from almost every aspect. They did one

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Speaker 1: They lost those games in historic fashion. We'll talk about that,

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Speaker 1: but it is just becoming just really hard to watch

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Speaker 1: this team play. It's exhausting. We're gonna talk about that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give you guys a prospect report. We haven't

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Speaker 1: two weeks. We're also going to be dropping our top

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Speaker 1: be able to see that. We're gonna briefly talk about

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Speaker 1: on guys that maybe we haven't highlighted much this season,

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Speaker 1: as well as the Cleveland Guardian series. So yeah, follow

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Speaker 1: we just watched that previous game. I know how you're feeling.

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Speaker 2: Horrible like this Mets team right now is that it's

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Speaker 2: the Mets are two and four and they hit three

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Speaker 1: Frustrating Game two, the three home runs, but the pitching

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Speaker 1: It's super unique, and I think it is good enough

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Speaker 2: first base. He's out to him, just like the Mets

429
00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,600
Speaker 2: do things every single day that I've never seen before

430
00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,360
Speaker 2: in the bad way.

431
00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,440
Speaker 1: And again it goes it goes back to the whole

432
00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,000
Speaker 1: conversation of this team really doesn't go out and.

433
00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,280
Speaker 2: Get it like this. There seems to be a lack

434
00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,600
Speaker 2: of an energy, a lack of a desire and need

435
00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,560
Speaker 2: to want like a complete like and it's not even

436
00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,160
Speaker 2: like a not playing hard.

437
00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,920
Speaker 1: I won't even go there. Yeah, they still play hard,

438
00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,960
Speaker 1: but there's like other teams. I spoke on Trevor May's

439
00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,720
Speaker 1: podcast a couple of days ago talking about just the

440
00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,399
Speaker 1: National League East in general, and he brought up the

441
00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,080
Speaker 1: Phillies to me, and I was, yeah, I hate the Phillies,

442
00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,679
Speaker 1: Fuck Philadelphia all that stuff, but these guys are dogs.

443
00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,760
Speaker 1: Like they all come out they're like hungry, They're foaming

444
00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,320
Speaker 1: out the mouth. They want to beat you, the braves.

445
00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,720
Speaker 1: They want to beat the piss out of you. Like

446
00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,320
Speaker 1: they don't want to just win, they want to embarrass you.

447
00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,399
Speaker 1: And it feels like this Mets team's like, hope we

448
00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,680
Speaker 1: win today. It'd be nice if we could get a win.

449
00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,720
Speaker 1: We're not We're trying to win, but if it doesn't happen,

450
00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,760
Speaker 1: we have tomorrow. There's no tomorrow. I want a little

451
00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,320
Speaker 1: there's no tomorrow, like fucking beat the team in front

452
00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,040
Speaker 1: of you and to to lose because you swept by

453
00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,879
Speaker 1: the Guardians, who I know are playing good baseball, but

454
00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,639
Speaker 1: like not great. You look at that team, and you go,

455
00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,879
Speaker 1: that's a beatable team.

456
00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,159
Speaker 2: I think the fastest fastball velocity by starting pitcher the

457
00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,320
Speaker 2: Mets face this series is about ninety four. Like then, Lily,

458
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,240
Speaker 2: there's a war, like there's a world where the Mets,

459
00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,800
Speaker 2: Like when we're coming into the series, coming into the year,

460
00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,800
Speaker 2: the way we talked about the Mets very similar to

461
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,960
Speaker 2: how the Guardians team fell going into the year two

462
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,879
Speaker 2: of like they're gonna play some close, tight games. You

463
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,399
Speaker 2: just gotta be better than the team to win it,

464
00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,960
Speaker 2: and the Guardians are currently doing that. I think, actually

465
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,679
Speaker 2: the Mets might have not seen a faster pitcher from

466
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Speaker 2: a fastball in ninety two point seven this series starting pitcher,

467
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,320
Speaker 2: Oh my bad.

468
00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,879
Speaker 1: Yeah no, they definitely didn't ninety four point six and

469
00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,280
Speaker 1: he's not even really a starter.

470
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, this is another thing that happened at Tim

471
00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,359
Speaker 2: Healy had a sweet that went viral, like he likes

472
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,640
Speaker 2: to poke the bear a little bit, do the little

473
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,760
Speaker 2: doom poort stuff. But Tims our friends, we let him do.

474
00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,040
Speaker 2: Like Tim, Yeah, but Sevian Curry started against Syracuse Mets

475
00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,360
Speaker 2: about like a week and a half ago. He gave

476
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,320
Speaker 2: up five eurn runs. Good tweet and against the Mets

477
00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,080
Speaker 2: starters on Tuesday, I think he gave up two earned

478
00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,040
Speaker 2: runs in five minutes. Good content. Yeah, again, not saying

479
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 2: those two things are one to one, but it's also like,

480
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:11,760
Speaker 2: what the.

481
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,119
Speaker 1: Fuck, like, like the guy, what is happening at the

482
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,880
Speaker 1: major league level that we just can't play well?

483
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,640
Speaker 2: There's something There's just a stink. There's a stench. There's

484
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 2: something wrong.

485
00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,720
Speaker 1: They physically stink. Are we not showering?

486
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,439
Speaker 2: Like Jack from Tampa, a friend of a friend had

487
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,119
Speaker 2: told me he grew up pi Alonzo played baseball with

488
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 2: the youth. He said he was a stinky kidd. I mean, yeah,

489
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,120
Speaker 2: he was a big boy. You hitting home runs, fat,

490
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 2: your run around, your sweating. But it's just that we

491
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 2: talked about it early in the season when the Mets

492
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 2: looked like they were disaster and then they kind of

493
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 2: brought up the nose towards the end of April beginning

494
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 2: of May. But it's just there seems to be a

495
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 2: target on the Mets backs that they're not aware of

496
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,160
Speaker 2: that other teams love to beat the Mets, like course

497
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 2: andresy Men has hit the home run off Jose and

498
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 2: Tana today and he was amped. He jumped in the

499
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 2: air between second and third base. When he came to

500
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 2: home played, he grabbed his chest and kissed the Cleveland

501
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,199
Speaker 2: like giving shades of Wilmer Floors in twenty fifteen. Like

502
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 2: he was like, let's fucking go. I I'm so happy

503
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,400
Speaker 2: I got the home run. Off is my old team

504
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 2: that traded me.

505
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 1: It's just duds like even today, like shout, Harrison Bader

506
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 1: might have the most dog on this team right now.

507
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 1: His numbers are still pretty awful, even though he's sitting

508
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 1: for a high average good defense like he does his stuff.

509
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 1: Been pleasantly surprised with how he's played. But Tristan McKenzie

510
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 1: clearly hit him on purpose with a pitch after Jeff

511
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: McGill went yard. Understandable. Jeff MacNeal goes yard, you're pissed,

512
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 1: you want to hit somebody. He hit Harrison Bata right

513
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 1: in the hip. And then the next that bat, Harrison

514
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Speaker 1: Bader went up there, I'm trying to hit a fucking

515
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,679
Speaker 1: home run off of you. He took a massive, massive

516
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Speaker 1: hack garret. Even though he goes ooh, Bader's trying to

517
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Speaker 1: I think put one out here on McKenzie. Next pitch,

518
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 1: bang home run on a just looping slider or curveball

519
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 1: whatever it was, and I'm like, fuck yeah, swinging the

520
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,400
Speaker 1: bat with some authority something different.

521
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 2: Right after this, hosting Gaitana seemed like very clearly hit

522
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Speaker 2: David Frye, like right in the shoulder blade just after this,

523
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: and ron was like, yeah, yeah, that was good, good

524
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 2: play by a Gatana. And then immediately next play, Hither

525
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 2: went up after fry I hinto a double play, and

526
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,239
Speaker 2: Ronnie goes, when you stand up for your teammates, good

527
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 2: things happen. Like I don't know, maybe this is a

528
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 2: little bit of a vibe change to the mess we're now.

529
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 2: They're just gonna maybe just start being a little more

530
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 2: aggressive with the stuff policing the game themselves. It doesn't

531
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 2: feel like that. And again, even after the game, like

532
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 2: I give credit because like vers Gondor goes up in

533
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 2: front of the media every single game and he's like,

534
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 2: I know we're better than this, because they are better

535
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 2: than this, and I don't think this team should be

536
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 2: pacing as like a sixty eight seventy one win team.

537
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Speaker 1: They're also like at some point, I didn't want to

538
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: hear it anymore. You want to be like, yeah, like

539
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: this sucks, like we we have to be better than this.

540
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 2: Now we are bet in this. We have to be

541
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 2: yeah this, No, you're right. Then there's a difference I

542
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 2: think in that pros and that phrasing, there's the kind

543
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 2: of shit we want to hear, a sense of entitlement

544
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 2: of like we're entitlement. No, but it is.

545
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: It's like we are, We're going to be better. Why

546
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: are you going to be better? You guys haven't done

547
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: anything to prove that you're gonna be better this year.

548
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: You did nothing to prove that you're gonna be better

549
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 1: last year. You have one season, one hundred and thirty

550
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: games of being very very good, and you have not

551
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: been even close. Since there's no more. We are going

552
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: to better. We have to be better. We need to

553
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 1: be better.

554
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: There's also another bad thing. Nimo again talked about the

555
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: weather as a reason the team can't play. He said,

556
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: our home split speak for themselves. When we get on

557
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: the road, we do a lot better. Themes will get

558
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: better as the weather gets warmer. You just lost three

559
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: games in Cleveland. It was hot every day. What did

560
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 2: you do better? You won no games in Cleveland.

561
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: Oh, and I love braydon Ah this team has been

562
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: saying some really stupid shit the last couple of days.

563
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: Combo also just may have stolen my tweet the Mets

564
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: of the first team this season hit three home runs

565
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 2: and back to back games and lose them both. All right,

566
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: try out, that's okay, Just like fucking like that comment.

567
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna bring up to Lindor comment about

568
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 1: what do you miss the most about Cleveland winning?

569
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 2: Dude? What the fuck? Man?

570
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: First off, you won nothing, They didn't win anything. You're

571
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 1: bragging about being the American League champions. Fuck?

572
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 2: And then two, I know, like I'm not mad at Lindor.

573
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't hate them, like there's no ill will, but

574
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: like you were just giving the people that hate you

575
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: even more fuel to add to the fire.

576
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: Because you have to be smarter than that.

577
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: You have to be when you're part of the reason

578
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: why this team is struggling to win. When you're hitting

579
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: one sixty one s, you can't make a comment about

580
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: you miss winning. Play fucking better.

581
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: I think that comment also got taken out of contact

582
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: the way because everyone just put you miss most about

583
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: Cleveland winning with a picture of Francisco indoor. That's not

584
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: what he said. Or how he meant it, but it

585
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: got taken that way and but you have to be smarter. Yeah,

586
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: but yeah, I think somebody just he just like talking

587
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 2: to the media and hanging out, like we know that

588
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: Mets pr could definitely be like, you know a little

589
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: like this, but like they were.

590
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: More on us than them. They literally were on top

591
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: of us. More about what I was tweeting from my

592
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: personal Twitter. Then it seems like what these players say,

593
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because you would think that I have

594
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: the reach of Francisco Indoor, but I don't me tweeting

595
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: out James McCann's gone boo was a bigger hulla hubbab

596
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: hullable blue whatever that fucking words hulla balloo than Francisco

597
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: Indoor saying dumb stuff sometimes like oh, I'm trying to find.

598
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 2: The lindor quote exactly from today too, because just more

599
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 2: of the same. It's like, again, something has to go

600
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: up there and say this every single day, which is

601
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 2: like one time, I want one guy in this team,

602
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: like even if they would say it from like even

603
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 2: Mendoza's being like team's not playing well right now, we

604
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 2: expect me better in the future. Right now, it's not

605
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: that way and we're gonna work on it, like we

606
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: need to fix it. We need to fix it soon.

607
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: He seems like he really went into the like back

608
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: into me the schools over the last few weeks. You

609
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 2: gotta rain this rain this much truth.

610
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like again, I don't my opinion is

611
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: on Francis Glendor as a player. Haven't really changed. Like,

612
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm not anti Francisco.

613
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: Quote, go for it. I believe in this team. I

614
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: believe in what we have. It's just annoying. It's just

615
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: an annoying quote. You got to learn from it. Move on.

616
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what he can say. He said, we

617
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: have to find a way to be better. Okay, that's

618
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: bast bad. I'm just like I again, I don't know.

619
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what they say every single day. Like

620
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: I give him credit for again going up there every

621
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: single day because that sucks and that's annoying. But that's

622
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 2: like what you have to do when you are the

623
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: face of franchise. Again, just like every like up and down,

624
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: this team they just have they just have to be better.

625
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: But that's like again going back to what I was

626
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: talking about, Like the Philly stuff, it's like a guy

627
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: like Bryce Harper's like, they're not gonna let that happen.

628
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: They're the Mets lack that edge. They lacked that leader

629
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: that's different than the way that the guys lead right

630
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: now in the Mets, And I don't know where they

631
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: find that. I don't know how you get that. I

632
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. But clearly Lindor's not kind

633
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: of leader. Clearly Pete, Brandon Nemo are not those kind

634
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: of leader. But it's obvious that you need that kind

635
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: of leader somewhere and the Mets have nothing even close

636
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: to it.

637
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: Think about the.

638
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: Teams like who who's that guy in the Braves? They

639
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: have a guy like that. They're fucking good. I guess

640
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.

641
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: I don't know.

642
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: Phillies is hard for them. They I mean they have winning.

643
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Speaker 1: Who's that guy in the Cubs the Cubs, I don't know,

644
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: they just think the Cubs are like five hundred Yeah,

645
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean they're like the playoff team, I know, but

646
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: that's not a team that like wins.

647
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: Who's that guy in the Dodgers like Monsy? Yeah? Yeah?

648
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: Well, think about like the same mess team doesn't really

649
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: have a hard though. Remember the bat, the bat flip

650
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: against the Giants. He's like, oh, yeah, go get out

651
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: of the water. Yeah, that's like the Mets have none

652
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: of that whatsoever, just baither a little bit.

653
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 2: Well, it's just it's again, it's just nauseating to bring

654
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: this stuff up day after day, like and even a

655
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 2: game on Wednesday where you feel like, just like all

656
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: these other series, like the Mets are gonna get this

657
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: last one together by day and like make it feel okay.

658
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: Like Jimnez just merks a three round home run left

659
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: He left you off, Quintana and again shows the crazy

660
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 2: emotion first time he's ever gotten hit against the Mets,

661
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 2: which is really annoying. Rigarrett's finally like kind of more

662
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: thal in the Narva's pass ball where it's just like

663
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: there's a breaking on the outside that you called. You

664
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 2: knew the pitch was coming, and he just went for

665
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: the pick. He went for the backhand pick. Like this,

666
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,239
Speaker 2: there's getting your knees to get out there, like try

667
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: and block this ball. Go ahead runs on first base

668
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: and you're gonna do you do everything you can to

669
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 2: keep that ball in front of you. Like that's again,

670
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: that's lazy baseball, and that's what you hate to see

671
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: and out of Vino has like his second bed ending

672
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: of the entire season, slams the iPad and then that's

673
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: just it. Game's over and you get out of there. I

674
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: got swept. I get my Cleveland friends are definitely texting

675
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: me right now. I'm do not deserve during the episode.

676
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to listen to yeah, of course not.

677
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: No, Like I'm even just looking at like team stats

678
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: for the Mets, like in general, just what they're doing.

679
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: They're not really like they they're not striking out. They

680
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: have a low strikeout rate. Ooh, but their walk grade

681
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: is twenty second in Major League Baseball and the teams

682
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: that are behind them, it's not great.

683
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: What's that great? ISO? They're ISO and I think you

684
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: said before the Mets of the swing the seventh least

685
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 2: of any team in the league.

686
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Mets are twenty third in IO at one

687
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: thirty four. The teams below them are the Blue Jays,

688
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, the Nationals, the Pirates, the Rays, the Marlins,

689
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 1: and the White Sox.

690
00:26:59,320 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

691
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: The other that was the Mets have the sixth or

692
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: seventh lowest winning percentage in baseball, which is tracking with ISO,

693
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: tracking with hitting the ball with some authority a little bit.

694
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's at the top. The Orioles, the Dodgers,

695
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: the Yankees, the Brewers, who shouldn't be as good as

696
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: they are, but they're playing well. Guess what they do.

697
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: They hit the ball hard consistently. Minnesota Twins like, oh,

698
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's the Mets just suck right now.

699
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: They watched they suck on the field, Like, they can't

700
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: be this bad the whole year again.

701
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: Maybe they can, but they really can. I'm not even

702
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: like about that. They can't be this bad for what

703
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: have they done in the last year and a half

704
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: that has proved to you they can't do it again.

705
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: I guess you're probably right, but at some point this

706
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: is what they are. I can't be this negative before

707
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: Memorial Day we record the way through the season so

708
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: long ago. I'm so tired of just fucking bad baseball.

709
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: And again, I don't know what even that crowd is

710
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: gonna look like on Friday night in City Field, Memorial

711
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 2: Day weekend, first day back after a miserable road trip,

712
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna be in that ballpark and there's gonna be

713
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: all this like incredible branding and marketing about these amazing

714
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: things they're doing, but it's like this team sucks.

715
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: Like if they didn't play the Giants and the Dodgers,

716
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: I genuinely think there might be under ten thousand people.

717
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: Now that'll be more than that. Still, I mean this weekend, yes,

718
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 2: because New York loves to go away from more all day.

719
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 2: Very few people stay in the city for the weecond. Yeah. There.

720
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna go the game this weekend.

721
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: I think it's the first. I think it's the first

722
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: Mets weekend series. I'm not going to go to a

723
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: game in actual years. Yeah, I don't since I moved

724
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: to New York since twenty twenty one.

725
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: If they're an unenjoyable team to watch, and I sure

726
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: as hell don't want to hear about all the fucking

727
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: fan engagement.

728
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: I don't.

729
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: If I saw the Queen's Crew this weekend, I would

730
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: lose my mind. They had nothing to do with that, No,

731
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying they got hired for a job.

732
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: It wasn't. There's nothing wrong with the people in the

733
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: Queen's Crew.

734
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: But if I saw them dancing on the dugouts while

735
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: we're down seven to the Giants, I'd lose my mind.

736
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 2: I'd have a freak out, I guess. Just to end

737
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: this little whole, Roshpield just talking abou how bad this

738
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 2: team is going over the series, Ronnie, you know when

739
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: you've been a lot of good teams before, in a

740
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: lot of good stretches, and you feel like everything's gonna

741
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: go right, something goes wrong, you know someone's gonna pick

742
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: you up. But then right now, this is the opposite.

743
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: Even when you have a lead, you're waiting for a

744
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: bad thing to happen. You're waiting for this guy the fall.

745
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: And this is how it feels for the Mets team

746
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: right now. That's are such waiters. They're waiting for things

747
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: to happen. They don't go and get it. And then

748
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: Ron Darling couldn't have said it better. All right, enough

749
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: about this loser team. Let's talk about the prospects the future.

750
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: A lot of good stuff going on there, especially on

751
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: the promotion side. We've got some new players that have

752
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 2: been promoted Blade Tidwell to Triple A, Jonahtan up to Brooklyn.

753
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: Since we last spoke to you guys at Prospect Report,

754
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: who else we got Brandon spro to double Azed, I

755
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: thought Moribido up to Brooklyn, Ryan Clifford to Binghamton, Nolan

756
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: McLean Binghamton, and Willie Fanias to Loway his May's debut

757
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: on Wednesday. But I want to start here with my

758
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: oldest adult son, Brandon spros broke out, future top hundred prospect.

759
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: He is incredible. This week he just had his longest

760
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: outing as a pro and it happened the second start

761
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: with Binghamton. He went seven innings, nine strikeouts, just one walk,

762
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: three earned runs on three solo homers. Did they win?

763
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: Did that team pull up Mets? Beington's in the first place. Okay,

764
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: Bengton's in first place. Hot team, So yeah, they're hot

765
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: team again. We're talking about this. Maybe this is how

766
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: you kind of change the culture. Little by little, you

767
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: get these players who come up and are used to winning,

768
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: because all these Mets players they come up in are

769
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: not used to winning, like Pilonso, Brandon Nemo, Jeff mcgial.

770
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: When these guys are on these minor league teams, they

771
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: got fucking smoked, and like maybe that's just like I

772
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: don't know, you'll know that. But now this new crop

773
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: of Mets coming up, these guys are on these teams

774
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: that are winning. So that's great, but really nice for

775
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: sprote as he's gotten up through the levels that now

776
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: he's the only two starts to beat him so far.

777
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: But thirty three percent strikeout right and only six percent walk.

778
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: Great walks have been the one thing that's kind of

779
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: halted him from like legitimate top hundred prospects ass as.

780
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: These people are gonna start doing their mid season reports.

781
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: But he's rising up my personal ranks fast. I want

782
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: to shout it again. Friend of the podcast Prospect Tilt.

783
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: He goes through and he will chart all of these

784
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: games in Double A and High A where we do

785
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: not have stack cast data pitch charting. By the way,

786
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: in case you guys don't know, it's he's hand tracking

787
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: the pitch. Yeah, he's watching. He's watching these games and

788
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: he's hand tracking all these pitches m ILBTV. He's a beast.

789
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: But Sprot had some crazy sequence this game. It's so

790
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: nice to see a pitcher like Sprot who's so advanced

791
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: for a guy in Double A to be able to

792
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: mix three off speed pitches and certain at bats. He

793
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: had won a bat against the left where the bat

794
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: the spackfoot slider, swinging strike, curveball looking strike, and then

795
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: uh change up that fades away from a lefty strike

796
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: three three pitch strike got to a lefty no fastball,

797
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: which also one hundred miles an hour. But having that

798
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: mix as a.

799
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: Twenty four year old in Double A twenty twenty five

800
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: starting to feel very realistic for Brandess Brote, I'm the

801
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: Christian scot trajectory. Yes, the Mets seem to be kind

802
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: of pushing these guys, being really aggressed with them. Something

803
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: we spoke about off the record last night while we

804
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: were hanging out after softball was that the Mets are

805
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: thrown these guys who are having high, like good performances

806
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: in the minors up and up and up, with the

807
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: idea that these could be some free pitching for us

808
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: in the near future.

809
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: It's just the fact that there's still I think they're

810
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: still going to try the build winning team for the

811
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: next few years, no matter who they trailer, who they

812
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: get rid of. As we get through the season, I

813
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: think they want to see who can actually contribute next

814
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: year and what they can kind of ballpark in because

815
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: we know how much pitching costs the year of the year.

816
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: It's expensive. Yeah, like even like Kintana Severino and who

817
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: else m and Ia like go through together about forty

818
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: million dollars.

819
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: Forty million dollars can get you two really really good

820
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: hits yet or get you another one really good pitch.

821
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again if the Mets can fill in the

822
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: middle back of the rotation with all these guys are

823
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: pushing through the system, and then you still have Codai Sango,

824
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: who Now again, the way this year is looking, it

825
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: looks like he's not gonna be able to opt to

826
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: have his contracts. He needed four hundred innings in three

827
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: seasons with the Mets, one sixty last year, needs one

828
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: fort the next two years or two forty the next

829
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: two years, probably not happening. Really hard to do at

830
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: this point now, So he's the guy who can bank

831
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: on depending if the trade seven reno, he's gonna be

832
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: He's probably gonna be off for the qualifying offer. See

833
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: how that goes, probably thirty thirty seventies a MET next

834
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: year versus not a MET next year. But the fact

835
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: that we're getting Sproket and we're gonna talk about Blade

836
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: in a little bit, and now you guys are seeing

837
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: Christian Scott and we even have guys like Tyler Stewart,

838
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: and we're gonna talk about Mike Vassel, Dom Hamill also

839
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: on Triple A, who are just having these depth guys

840
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: and a couple of guys who might be impact pitchers. Yeah,

841
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: Budos two still there, but also the great Stars. His

842
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: first time back at Double A Triple A. The same

843
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: night the Howser gets bombed, malpracticed that we are starting

844
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: Adrian house Rose over Jose Budo taking money out of

845
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: the young man's pocket. So I like that. It is again,

846
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: look what major league minium being four grand a day?

847
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: First you take money out of our pockets. That you

848
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: take him out of a Buddo unacceptable, unacceptably get mets.

849
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: You can take my money if you Canno take Jose.

850
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: You hurt our boy. So he'll be back up soon.

851
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: I just I was just their guy. I think it

852
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: is waiting to cut Houser, waiting to see if someone

853
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: will take him for cash considerations, because you don't want

854
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: to lose nastuff for nothing, but.

855
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: Get a good washing machine, maybe a couple of new bats.

856
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: Jackie Moon stop, that's probably a bad bats that it

857
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: hit the last couple of days. In new batting order.

858
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: But there was a fun study, you know, Sarah few

859
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: years ago by some teams just legit having bad bats.

860
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: That was my whole take. In a while, the Mets

861
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: were one of the teams that as people said that, yeah,

862
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: their bat's stunk for a while. Speaking of bat the

863
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: willon we got.

864
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: Jeff McNeil not watch update, Yeah, oh we do. Jeff

865
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: neill not talk about that real quick. Yeah, I'm a

866
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: shout out Jordan, a boy Jordan Simpson. Uh, you guys

867
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: know Hi from the Mets jingle him the jingle man

868
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: makes music every every series for the Mets. But Jeff

869
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: McNeil has gone back to his old bat in the

870
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: last few weeks and he's hitting really well again. Garrett

871
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 1: talking about you know, Garrett talked about the broadcast. Now

872
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: it's the old school novelist bat. Who's the idiot who

873
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: told him to change? He might have been him? Oh yeah,

874
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: why did he change?

875
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: Then? Quote quote from my guy Jordan on one end,

876
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 2: I'm really annoying switched in the first place, but I'm

877
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: glad he's swinging what he needs to be swinging again.

878
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: Its true facts all right. Back to Prospect Report now,

879
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Jonah Tong. Jonah Tong called it to Brooklyn. Struggled a

880
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: little bit at the start, but his last start on Tuesday,

881
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: pitched into the seventh, was really good. Eight strikeouts to

882
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: walk and wander and run. Plenty of emotion on the

883
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: mound too. The high end possibility for this guy is

884
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: pretty wild, which is what's really exciting about him. It's

885
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna take a little bit longer, but also there's a

886
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: world where Jonah Tong finishes the year in double A.

887
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: And that world is all of a sudden where you go,

888
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: oh shit, who we got Jonah tongue?

889
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: And Jonahng's twenty years old. He's not turning twenty one

890
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: for another month, and he's still just about six foot

891
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 2: one inches, maybe about six to two now and probably

892
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: one hundred ninety probably getting to push two hundred pounds.

893
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: So another year he spends a professional baseball you know,

894
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: eating well lifting like he's gone another year in the

895
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: pitching lab. Of course, there's a chance that right now,

896
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: his fastball that's of just beautiful, amazing physics, with that

897
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: great twenty inches of iv B strives all the way

898
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: down the mound. There's a world where he gets out

899
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: up because it sits about ninety three and ninety four

900
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: ninety five is now this world that starts to push

901
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: ninety seven ninety eight when he asked to his frame,

902
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: he still was a young guy. He can add to

903
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: that frame. He grew up in Canada. Three in Canada,

904
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 2: no clue. But he's someone who, like, if you ask

905
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: me earnestly of like every single picture in the minor

906
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: league's every single team, you could easily convince me a

907
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 2: Jonah tongue as top ten potential, like top ten ceiling.

908
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: You could if if you get me after three beers,

909
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: top five ceiling. He's good, phenomenal, Like he's that good.

910
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: And those first couple starts are broken, weren't great. He

911
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 2: only finished five innings once, he walked nine to sixteen innings.

912
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: Command is still the thing holding tongue back. That was

913
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: the thing that really stuck stuck with him last year.

914
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: He was probably walking like almost twenty percent of the

915
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 2: batters he faced him lowering that kind of has put

916
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 2: him on the scene so far this year. So something

917
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: to watch as you know, gets to a new level

918
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: and starts to face more advance hitters and then last.

919
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: Full time pitcher we'll talk about here, is gonna be

920
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: Blade Tidwell, who got the promotion just dominated Double A

921
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: so very much deserved going up to Triple A, and

922
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: the fact that Mike Vassell is struggling and dom Hammill

923
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: is struggling at Triple A, Blade kind of seems like

924
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: he could be the next man up in terms of

925
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: like who gets that opportunity the quickest from that Triple

926
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: A team. And he's looked pretty good in Triple A

927
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: as well. Hasn't p Oh, he hasn't pitch yet.

928
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: I thought that was Triple that was He's gonna make

929
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: his debut. I think is either tonight, Wednesday, or Thursday.

930
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: And now it depends on when you guys listen to this.

931
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: But and that's gonna be huge to see Blade and

932
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 2: tri BLA because we're gonna get pitch data on Blade

933
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: Tidwell in a real sample for the first time Biscue

934
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 2: is approached. I think he went right to Brooklyn last

935
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: year to start, and we had him in spring training

936
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: a few games and we had the breakout game, which

937
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 2: actually I think he might be the ONEU who didn't

938
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: pitch in that game because he was actually pitching. His

939
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: spring training with the big league club, but he mauled

940
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: double a thirty percent strike, eight percent walker at two

941
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: point four ERA, And there was a great piece on

942
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: Fangrafts about the week ago by David Lorilla Laria. I

943
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: don't know how you pronounced Sam Paizan, but he does

944
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 2: a Sunday notes piece. He's been doing it for years

945
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: on fangrafs and it's wonderful and he'll just kind of

946
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: talk to a player's a lot of minor league stuff

947
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: and like kind of get their perspective. And Blade again

948
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 2: keeps on changing up his pitches, keeps on changing his

949
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 2: pitch physics, he keeps on changing up his pitch mix,

950
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 2: and he's very proud that right now he's been working

951
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: a lot in his fastball movement, his four seemer and

952
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: he says he's gotten up to a few times on

953
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: his good days, nineteen inches in a vertical break and

954
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: that's like the carry us to ride your fastball has.

955
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: And Blade also has a very high release point Tyler

956
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: and McGill, and he kind of says that he's comfortable

957
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: when that pitch is around sixteen inches. And again with

958
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: that hive of a release point, that helps him to

959
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: get to not have as much IVB but to still

960
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: get on hit as well. And we've talked about how

961
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: he's like a heavy fastball in the past. He releases steeply,

962
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: so we talked about Tom releasing with a flat angle,

963
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: so when he gets to that IVB it comes up higher.

964
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: And a guy like Christian Scott, who gets fourteen to

965
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: sixteen inches of IVB, his angle is so flat that

966
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 2: that flatness it does better. But blade up here getting

967
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: that it's good and he's a big boys and menacing

968
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: on the mound. His sweeper has been coming on since

969
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: last year has been good. He say he worked a

970
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: lot in his change up this year, originally with the

971
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: old pitching coach in Brooklyn, David Ramos, and now he

972
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: said it's a better pitch. He said it gets a

973
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: lot more movement. He's using a lot more against lefties,

974
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: and he has a new color that you can tell

975
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 2: the blades like a real student of pitching data. Because

976
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: he said that he was struggling a lot last year.

977
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: I guess also spring training because he didn't have anything

978
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: in between his fastball and his sweeper, and he said

979
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: they weren't tunneling off each other. Well because they were

980
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: just so different. That sweeper moved so much so now,

981
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: he said, he has the color that kind of links

982
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: those two pitches together, and the color acts like a

983
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: hard slider. He tunnels out off the sweeper and it's

984
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: close enough to the fastball where they can all work together.

985
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: That makes sense. Really fun. Yeah, I mean really into Blade.

986
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: I'll keep saying it.

987
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: It was my favorite pitching prospect in that draft, and

988
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: the Mets got him in the second round and he's

989
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: changed completely the picture he has twice since that. I

990
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna still hold on to that. I knew

991
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: he had it in him and he got the I

992
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: love day.

993
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: They talked about being on tm USA, I think when

994
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: he was still twenty one or twenty, like being in

995
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: front of all that stuff for the first time, being

996
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 2: like wow, being with Tennessee, said him and Drew Gilbert especially,

997
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: really into the data they were getting from that team

998
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: was a great. Tennessee's analytics apartments beefy as hell. It's amazing.

999
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: So love to see a picture is just becoming a

1000
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: student of the game like Blade. Yes, sir.

1001
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: On the hitting side of things, Nick Morribido got the

1002
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: call up to Brooklyn one of the highest on base

1003
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: percentage is minor league baseball.

1004
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: You said he's rocking around five hundred hundred on the air.

1005
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 2: It's pretty good, really good, not bad.

1006
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: That's something I'd love to see at the major league.

1007
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 2: Level again time go to the Hall of Fame.

1008
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: One forty WRC plusins, call up to Brooklyn and he's

1009
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: stealing as well.

1010
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: Twelve stone based in eleven games. Yeah, he's I mean,

1011
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 2: he's a he's a freak as a little pest, yeah,

1012
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: real pest. And he's he had I think another RB

1013
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: I hit data Cyclones had a day game on Wednesday.

1014
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: So just the guy that was not in a lot

1015
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: of people's radars coming to the season. But this guy

1016
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: that always had physical tools. He was pretty Highdrafica last

1017
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: year two years ago, so I think he was a

1018
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: second round or third round guy. Yeah. It's just like

1019
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: nice to see the conversion for a Mets hither because

1020
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: it's been not the best year for a lot of

1021
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: Mets having prospects.

1022
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, yeah, they're most of the guys that

1023
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: aren't doing well that we'll talk about are hitting guys. Really,

1024
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: the guy who's doing well on both sides of the ball, though,

1025
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: Nolan McLean.

1026
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: Monster, What a beast. This guy is legitimate freak.

1027
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: He came up to Binghamton I think in his debut,

1028
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: had two for four with the double and a couple

1029
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: of RBIs. Yeah, and he's pitching apparently later this week

1030
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: he he's done.

1031
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: I was gonna save this nugget for the top ten prospects.

1032
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: I'll just say it on each Nolan Clean was basically

1033
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: a full time reliever in college. He's made eleven total

1034
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: starts since he was a freshman high school and he's already

1035
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: gonna pitch in Double A. He realized how nuts that

1036
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: means his stuff is. He also still doesn't even really

1037
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: have a pitch to get leftis out. With like the

1038
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: colors coming on, it's looking like a good pitch, but

1039
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: it's just fastballs and ferocious sweepers. And he's eleven total

1040
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: starts high school and he's going to be in Double

1041
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: A as a certing picture and starting pitcher. And he

1042
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: had fifty percent strike out right in Brooklyn and he

1043
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 2: was thirty percent better than legue average. Yeah, as a hitter.

1044
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: It's the things that he does. He's the Southern Oani.

1045
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna get Jack Kagelinone coming into the league this

1046
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: year is the Italian o Tani Nolan McLean, the Southern Son.

1047
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nolan McLean. Yeah, he's doing some really fun stuff.

1048
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: I mean seven starts he got promoted the Double A.

1049
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: They were like, it's just the guy's too good. He's

1050
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: too good. But also says a lot about how I

1051
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: think pitching development is going now with like you everyone's

1052
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: gonna have their own like variation of stuff plus grade

1053
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: every organization themselves, like at least probably besides the Rockies

1054
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: and the Angels and and the Cardinals, I guess. So

1055
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: like once you see those pitch grades get to a

1056
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: level where like, oh, it's just too good for these guys,

1057
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: you push them up. And like Nolan McLean pitching in

1058
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: Double A, I didn't think he was gonna get even

1059
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: close to it this year. I really didn't. I thought

1060
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: they were gonna let run the whole year out in Brooklyn,

1061
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: like be there and like be comfortable. They did this

1062
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: in May, Like that's aggressive and we don't have a chance.

1063
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1064
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: Like the Mets turn over a lot of the people,

1065
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: like the farm directors and stuff, and this offseason would

1066
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: Stern so like love seeing that aggression.

1067
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: The the Marinders.

1068
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Speaker 1: Right, we're a team that was super super aggressive with

1069
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: pitching guys early on, like yeah, Wu and Gilbert like

1070
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: a year or two after the draft right to the majors,

1071
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: which Gilbert the first.

1072
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 2: Love to have a rotation like them, And that's kind

1073
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: of what I mean. I don't want to get too

1074
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: ahead of our skis. I think the big team being

1075
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: so bad is making me more excited about these minor

1076
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: league pitchers. Of course, everything else you're doing with this

1077
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: minor league pitaching development is completely sensational. Everyone leads catching

1078
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: on LB pipeline had I think Christian Scott in their

1079
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: last ranking, his last time going to be there like

1080
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: top forty or just like that.

1081
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: So funny because that's a classic MOB Pipeline move. Yeah,

1082
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: being late, let's be late, but take credit for it. Yeah,

1083
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: Like I copied your test, I saw the answers, I

1084
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: wrote them down here they are.

1085
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to give LB pipeline some credit now. Actually,

1086
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: as we're making our top ten prospect less again, YouTube

1087
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: exclusive is gonna come out whenever markets around adding it

1088
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: this weekend. Yeah, the grades, the grades came out like

1089
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: ten days after we made then it was a week,

1090
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: it was one week, it was one week. One week

1091
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: came out. We picked the worst week of Mets baseball. Yeah,

1092
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: exactly when we lose every game.

1093
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: Xander Bogert is missing significant time with a fracture in

1094
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: his shoulders. You see the play, No he dove, He

1095
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: just hit the shoulder and he came up screaming, Oh no,

1096
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: that's look really bad.

1097
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: Feel bad for that. He's actually just trying to hit too,

1098
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: which sucks, but also a nice not good from Tim Healy.

1099
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: This is the most game the Mets have been under

1100
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: five hundred before June since twenty seventeen. Mickey Callaway, I

1101
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: like how we interrupt the prospect report to get mad again.

1102
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 2: We're masochists. Yeah, what were you gonna give mb pipeline

1103
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: credit for. They're updating more often now, so they're doing

1104
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: a few updates the season. The whole thing that we

1105
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: used to give pipeline shit for is the fact they

1106
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: would do one update and then wait like six months

1107
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: and do another one, and prospects just aren't like that,

1108
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: which is why we're giving you guys a new top

1109
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: ten Mets prospects two months later. That's what we do.

1110
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: That's what we're gonna do in the Mess Up podcast.

1111
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, Coley McDaniel also a new update Baseball America.

1112
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: They kind of set this new trend where your people

1113
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: are gonna update more offense. It's gonna be more accurate.

1114
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: It's gonna bet their list. So I was going to

1115
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: pipeline cause like now I can look at the mess

1116
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: top thirty and actually grab something from it.

1117
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think their top thirty is a low bizarre.

1118
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: But the top thirty, I think that's not up. I

1119
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: think it was just top onunch.

1120
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Speaker 1: Okay, So I think they still have like Jonan Tong

1121
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: twenty four, his Who's Biased twenty, nol McLean's nineteen. Yeah,

1122
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: two way players still not there yet. The only ones

1123
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: they're they're they're working, they're working hard. I'm gonnaive him

1124
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: credit for that. Ryan Clifford up to double A. Struggling

1125
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: but as we know, this is what the biggest jump

1126
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: right in minor league baseball is to go from A

1127
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: to double A. Yes, so for him it's gonna be

1128
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: a slow time. He's still getting on base. He's an

1129
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: on base king. Now we just got put together at

1130
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: the plate. Yeah again it's like a week. So we're

1131
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: not gonna tell you any his like very bad stat

1132
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, twenty or twenty one, one of those two.

1133
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: But there he's gonna be very interesting to see because

1134
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: that's a winning team. That's a good lineup, that's a

1135
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: team that plays really good baseball, good rotation, just well

1136
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: put together team double a Binghamton rumble Ponies. So interesting

1137
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: to see how Clifford fits there and how he gets

1138
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: to that left handed power. Yeah, man, be nice to

1139
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: get out to Binghamton. It will be nice, would be nice,

1140
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: It will have been nice. Yeah, all right, WILLI fans

1141
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: what you got on him, James?

1142
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: Will we find his mas PSL debut. So he came

1143
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: an international signing class with Simon one a few years ago.

1144
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 2: I think he's already twenty though. So PSL is a

1145
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: good spot from the b here. The home runs like

1146
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 2: a second bat in the in the in Saint Lucie.

1147
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: Good for Willy love that. It was a crazy pitch.

1148
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: It was a breaking ball. I got his knees and

1149
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: he like put his hips out but then just marked it.

1150
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: And then we have a twenty eight year old dominating

1151
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: the miners by the name of David Peterson. Twenty nine

1152
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: strikeouts at nineteen two thirds innings, one WOG.

1153
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 2: Winner and run. Don't take anything from the numbers. I'm

1154
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: just I A lot of people have asked me if

1155
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: we could do more Fantasy Baseball, SOFF now working with

1156
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: the world, the world about David Peterson come off the

1157
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: IL for I think probably think it may be a

1158
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: two star week next week, the first one coming against

1159
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: the Dodgers. I just said, very honestly, I can't get

1160
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: how excited again, not yet, like if he pitches well

1161
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: and then like some people have also brought to light

1162
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: my guy Rob on Twitter that a lot of these

1163
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: times that Peterson has had these bad outings, I think

1164
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 2: this is true. Tyler McGill too, that they were pitching

1165
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: through some stuff because Tyler McGill went on the IL

1166
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: that shoulders trained right away. True, and it felt like

1167
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: Tyler McGill was probably a guy who like knew how

1168
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 2: important the spring training was to him. He wanted and

1169
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: probably pitched through something in the spring that first of all,

1170
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: some would probably the more secure standing probably would not

1171
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: have felt Jose bou To pushing him, and that's why

1172
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: his release points were not right, especially if your shoulders hurting.

1173
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: I don't know as much about pitching mechanics, but like

1174
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: my shoulder hurts all the time throwing baseball. It's hard

1175
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: there he go, It's hard to get that spidler and

1176
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: over again. I don't throw ninety and Peterson had a

1177
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: hip issue and he had the elbow issue. So just

1178
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: like it's been back and forth for him, like you

1179
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: just see him pitch well, but I'm not I'm not

1180
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: gonna be ecstatic about it until he goes on the

1181
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: mounta and does a few times in the major leagues. Yes,

1182
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: now we will be talking about some of the guys

1183
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: that you haven't heard the names of because they have

1184
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: been struggling again. Yeah, we're gonna stay positive with all

1185
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: these prospect guys. We're gonna be I'm jacked up by

1186
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: the mess minor league, super jacked up ten.

1187
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're wondering what's going on with Kevin Parada,

1188
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: what's going up with Lewis On Hellokunya, Colin how Mike Vassel,

1189
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: Dom Hammill. Those are the five guys we're gonna talk about,

1190
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: starting off with Parada. You heard me mentioned earlier struggling,

1191
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: not really adjusting to double A at all. He's rocking

1192
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: a thirty three percent k rate, his ISO is under one,

1193
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: not really hitting the ball with any oop whatsoever.

1194
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 2: It's tough. It's tough when you're also.

1195
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: Not a good defensive catcher, which is where Kevin Braddle lies.

1196
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: It's also just tough when he was at the level

1197
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: last year like he got last year, fifteen games the

1198
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: level and the year a playoff run with that team.

1199
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: You figure it accomplished college for the playoff run. Well,

1200
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: he was hurt the playoffruner. I always forget that. But

1201
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 2: a top fifteen pick and accomplished college. Hither a guy

1202
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: who's like bad. Everyone still believes in the profile anywhere. Yes,

1203
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: it's just you got it. Some consistency has started to

1204
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: come up. It's been there. It's been a full month

1205
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: so far. As your double A and striking out one

1206
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: third of your play appearances and being twenty percent worse

1207
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: than league average. It's not very good when're bat's supposed

1208
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: to be your leading trade. Yes, that one tough to

1209
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: get by.

1210
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: Another former first round pick that is struggling Colin Hawk,

1211
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: who you guys know, felt in the Mets in the

1212
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: last draft big dude shortstop their basement from Georgia, striking

1213
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: out thirty eight percent of the time. Now, looking at

1214
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: his EXI velos again because he's in low way.

1215
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: We can see what he's got.

1216
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: He's got the ball up to one ozh six and

1217
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: he's still nineteen years old. Like, yeah, there's a ton

1218
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: of time, there's a ton of growth, Like exsi villos

1219
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: are always going to be lower when you're younger like that,

1220
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: especially at those eight levels. But the thirty eight percent

1221
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: strikeout rate is very concerning. That means that there's a

1222
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: lack of pitch recognition, probably bad swing decisions, probably just

1223
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: a lot of like being a little overmatched right now.

1224
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: Again, there's also probably now a new function of the

1225
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: mess wanting to be more aggressive with these prospects. Yes,

1226
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: and when you do this, like you got to put

1227
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: these guys out there and like zom push them out

1228
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: of the comfort zones, it's not going to be easy. Yeah.

1229
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: So it's almost like they could have put him in

1230
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: the complex and he probably could have crush like a

1231
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: j Ewing or Boston Barrow.

1232
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, ord guy like Jeremy Rodriguez who was just completely

1233
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: murdered the complex, right now we're gonna talk about him

1234
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: in the Top ten Prospect unless teaser for the YouTube

1235
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: only pot it's gonna YouTube only exclusive.

1236
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, how could just again was a high school

1237
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: baseball player. Now he's playing as professionals. Yeah, so he's

1238
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: playing as a lot of guys who came from college.

1239
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard. I'm sure if he was, it's

1240
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: been a month, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that was fine.

1241
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: This is why we haven't talked about these guys. Yeah,

1242
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: we're just talking about the guys who are struggling. A

1243
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: couple other guys that are struggling. The Mets triple A

1244
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: pitchers have been struggling mightily. Mike Vassals the lease starts

1245
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: with an.

1246
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: Eight, yeah, and Dom Hamil's with a six.

1247
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: And those are two guys that were really on the

1248
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: right there. They were the top pitching prospect of the

1249
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: system as recently as what last June, last July, before

1250
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: the Christians got fire breathing Dragon developed and evolved. But

1251
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: that's also kind of a lesson about pitching prospects in general.

1252
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: And then I think Mark and I have think have

1253
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: tried to get better with this where it's just like

1254
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: these things change quickly. Yes, hit there's not as much

1255
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: because it's all about like your physicals, your mechanics, your mentals.

1256
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: But these pitching prospects like they're fake until they're not. Yeah,

1257
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: Like especially with it's not even about like saying that

1258
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: guys are worse than we thought they were, but it's

1259
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: about realizing other guys have just gotten better. Yeah, Like

1260
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: guys like Sproute and Tidwell, like the things they're doing

1261
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: now in the upper miners, like they now jump ahead

1262
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: of guys like Hamelin. Basketball and Triple A is a

1263
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: weird place to pitch, and we've talked about this when

1264
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: Scott was still there. Where the ball is different. They

1265
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: have the juice balls. They have the juice ball, and

1266
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: with the juice ball one thing that all fly balls

1267
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: leave the yard. But it's another thing where it's just

1268
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: harder to grip. And guy like fast walls so much

1269
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: more of a touch pitcher. He doesn't have a great fastball,

1270
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: and Hamla is a fine fastball, but his pitchers more

1271
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: so are the breaking balls and the off speed stuff.

1272
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: So a ball that's like inconsistently slick or an inconsistent

1273
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: scenes is just gonna be much harder to place a

1274
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: lot of breaking balls, and also with that they've all

1275
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: the naight balls and strikes. Two guys were more of

1276
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: touch pitchers. If you're getting different strikes ones by a

1277
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: lot day to day, it's a hard thing to manage,

1278
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: the hard thing to figure out once you're in game too,

1279
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: So it's just a lot of things going on there.

1280
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 2: I think the Metris will hire these guys again mostly

1281
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 2: as back end organizational depth guys, which kind of where

1282
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 2: we always put them. But just again talk about the

1283
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: guys we havent talked about because they're struggling.

1284
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: And if you want to just know what the hitting

1285
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: environment is like in Triple A, just go to fangrafts,

1286
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: go to the minor league leader boards, sort by home runs,

1287
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: and I think out of the top thirty, I think

1288
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: twenty five of them are in Triple A. So it's

1289
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: just it's it's a hitters league both sides. PCL and

1290
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: the International League are both hitters leagues. The ball flies

1291
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: and you are going up against either young guys who

1292
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: are on the precipice of being at the major league level,

1293
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: or you're going up against guys who are trying to

1294
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: get back to the majors who were former major leaguers,

1295
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: Like Triple A by no means is like competitive per se,

1296
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: weird league, but it's a weird league in that everybody

1297
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: is fighting for the same thing right now. Yeah, there's

1298
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: no like working on things at Triple A and like

1299
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: you'll have to go up against like Bengamo. Yeah, like

1300
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: who's majorleague baseball player's whole career.

1301
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: So it's like that's that's tough about Jose Glaciers like

1302
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: Trace Tooms, he's just the Mets guys in Triple A

1303
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 2: where it's there's also a lot of the guys who winds

1304
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: up being these tweeners.

1305
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: Like a first Dad. Yeah, it was just incredible Star Wars.

1306
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I just lost it, Like Luke Rither and

1307
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: Rylan Bannon, who are these twiners where they're not major

1308
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 2: league baseball players but they're not developmentally critical enough right

1309
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: now of being Double A with like these guys who

1310
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: are like kind of coming up as like the X

1311
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: guys up era, so you get put in Triple A

1312
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: where again, like if you come up against guys who

1313
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: are just these minor leaguers who have never sniff major

1314
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: league baseball, like guys who are barely not good enough

1315
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 2: to hit in the major leagues are going to hit you,

1316
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: especially when the ball is juiced. I guess that's just

1317
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 2: kind of the way it is right now. And yeah,

1318
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: they're struggling.

1319
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: That one guy who was not hitting in Triple A,

1320
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: but he's been getting hot recently, Gusta Nuggets Luis on Helicunya,

1321
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: And I know I've we've been a little critical of him,

1322
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: and it's more so again on how people perceive him

1323
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: just because he has the same last name as one

1324
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: of the best players in baseball. But there are some

1325
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: things that he also does do well that give you

1326
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: some hope. And you comped out what Luis on helicun

1327
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: you should be thriving for, Yes, which is his cousin,

1328
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: MIKEL Garcia.

1329
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I've comped Tokunya in the show a few times

1330
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: to win Merrifield, And that's gotten the sugar in the

1331
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: ire of a lot of messed up listeners because they

1332
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 2: were like, fuck, we just traded for w Merrifield, But

1333
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: my other thing was like a super super soooped up

1334
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: with Merrifield, Like if with Merrifield had more natural ability

1335
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: if whit Maryfield was corked up named Luis on Helicuny exactly.

1336
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: That's the big difference there because Acunia still has a

1337
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: lot of raw natural power and he can still just

1338
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: get that bad around. I'm excited to see if we

1339
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: get him the major leagues where he'll come up in

1340
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: all these new bat speed metrics. But now seeing a

1341
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: guy like Michael Garcia come to the league, and I

1342
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: got this COUMP because again is the last nugget I'm

1343
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: gonna give from the Met's top ten prospect of port

1344
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: gonna be on YouTube.

1345
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: He had he got a ball one hundred and eight

1346
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: point five miles an hour is a twenty one year

1347
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: old triple A.

1348
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 2: I think a week or two ago that's the same

1349
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: maxxs weast seen the Major League that we've seen guys

1350
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: this year Jackson Chorio, Michael Garcia, and Taylor Ward. And

1351
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: I picked those three guys specifically Garcia, Chario, and Wards

1352
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: because those are three guys on different ends of the

1353
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: play discipline spectrum. Yes, and Michael Garcia has had an

1354
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: awakening this year where he's always been a guy who

1355
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 2: made tons of contact. He made fine contact assicily, but

1356
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: never like high end, good contact, and now this year

1357
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 2: I believe he's finally figured out how to walk. Yes,

1358
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: and that's as a twenty four year old, really in

1359
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: his first true exposure to the Major League baseball and

1360
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: the guy who he's a much slicker I think defender

1361
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: than uh A Kunya. Yeah, he's got a great glove.

1362
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: He would be a short stop he was on a

1363
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 2: team not with Bobby Wood Junior's one of five best

1364
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: players major league baseball now. But Garcia's playing great glove

1365
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 2: at third base. He could definitely hang a second base

1366
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: and he's making a lot of just solid contact, not

1367
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: over the top good contact. But he's learned how to

1368
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 2: pull the ball. He puts the ball in play a ton,

1369
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 2: and it's just it's just square the up scure, the

1370
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 2: up scare up like one hundred two hundred, three hundred

1371
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: two hundred three, and Kunya is good at that. Kunya

1372
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: is good at making assistant contact, getting his bat in

1373
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: the ball a lot. He's not striking out very much,

1374
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: he's not walking a lot, and he keeps hitting the

1375
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 2: ball hard. He keeps getting the ball over one hundred

1376
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: miles an hour without getting over one ten. So it's

1377
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: just this hyper contact method with plus defense, plus base

1378
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: running and enough power to get to it when again

1379
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: he grows into learning how to pull and lift it.

1380
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: Because he's still twenty one Triple A, I'm copping Garcia,

1381
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: he's twenty four three years from now, like this could

1382
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: be the best version. Will Counya become great? And that's

1383
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: not a bad thing if you're a major league really

1384
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: good rookie at twenty four years old. But the fact

1385
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: he's early on the forty minas in Triple A, Mets

1386
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,959
Speaker 2: need midlinfield depth. It's a whole lot of things working

1387
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: against the Cunia, I think, against the way people see him.

1388
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: But he's still doing a lot of things I think

1389
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: are very positive and while he's not his brother, he's

1390
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: still tracks to be a solid major league baseball player.

1391
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: So we haven't talked about because again the numbers haven't

1392
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: been there. Yeah, but that's not from a lack of

1393
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: caring about him.

1394
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: No, of course, we still do care about him a lot.

1395
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: But I think that is a good spot to end

1396
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: the Prosser Report this week. Definitely right now, because.

1397
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna have more prospect content for you on the

1398
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: YouTube channel later this weekend. So make sure you subscribe

1399
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: to that channel so you can see that. We're gonna

1400
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: go ahead and preview the Giants series real quick for you.

1401
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: I know we played them, what like three weeks ago,

1402
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: longer ago. It feels like a year ago that we

1403
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: played this team because we were actually playing good baseball

1404
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: at the time.

1405
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: Pitching matchups, James, what do we got? We got Friday night?

1406
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: The Giants are being weird with their rotation right now,

1407
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: so they haven't officially said anything, but the way it

1408
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 2: lines up, oh.

1409
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they go to Pittsburgh or they have one

1410
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: more game in Pittsburgh on Monday, facing Paul Skans on Thursday.

1411
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, today's Wednesday. Today is Wednesday. Mark's not Days

1412
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: of the week guy, but so and then Blake Snell

1413
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: was also activated, so there might be a Thursday man

1414
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 2: and a Blake Snell versus Paul Skins. I think Blake

1415
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 2: Snell's pitching tonight. They said that he was an announced

1416
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: for tonight though, Oh okay. On Baseball Reference they have

1417
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: him for shared jokes because he was activated today, but

1418
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 2: they didn't say if he was pitching to interesting so maybe,

1419
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: as I don't know, check, But again, as for our

1420
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: guys who are pitching this series now, the new sixpan rotation.

1421
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna do three three three three. It is Christian

1422
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: Scott on Friday, luisaver Reno on Saturday. Lake Snell is pitching.

1423
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: That's tonight, yep, okay, so that changes that. But and

1424
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: Sean and Ia on Sunday. And as it winds up,

1425
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna face three pretty good pitchers with the Giants.

1426
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: It might change book. Kyle Harrison in a young a

1427
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: soft Friday Night against Christian Scott, Jordan Hicks Saturday against

1428
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: Luis Averno in a day game Mattine one forty. And

1429
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: of course we gotta probably run into the Logan web

1430
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: again on Sunday, which is a great thing in city field.

1431
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: This team can't hit.

1432
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, these guy's gonna throw a perfect game.

1433
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: It's good thing he's on my fantasy teams. Gonna be

1434
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: excited about the points on that one. In terms of

1435
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: this lineup, it is a little bit different. Jungle Lei's

1436
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: out for the year, just destroyed his shoulder crashing into

1437
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: the wall.

1438
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 2: Shame too.

1439
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: Michael Confordo's hurt, nick A Meta is hurt. So they're

1440
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: playing Marco Luciano, who's been swinging the bat okay, so far,

1441
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: it's been swinging it pretty decently well. Luis Matos is

1442
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: now in the outfield, who has seventeen RBIs in nine games.

1443
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: He's playing really, really well. That's a fun stat to

1444
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: throw out there.

1445
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: He was a guy.

1446
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: Who got some more muscles this offseason, hitting the ball

1447
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 1: a little harder.

1448
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: He's a guy where like this is a Giants podcast

1449
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: when we're doing prospect he's he was a guy who

1450
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: like I don't understand why he's totally falling out and

1451
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: like great Baseball prospect landscapes, it's the prospect fatigue. Yeah,

1452
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: this because he's a twenty one year old who came

1453
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: to major league last year, held his own like wasn't fantastic,

1454
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: but like took okay at bats, didn't have a lot

1455
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: of power, went back down Triple A against a twenty

1456
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 2: one year old and crushed the ball, and now came

1457
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: back this year's twenty one year old in the major league.

1458
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 2: It look like you're paying about ten pound of muscle

1459
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: pulling the ball a little bit more. It looks really

1460
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: good AND's a similar thing with Mark Luciano and even

1461
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 2: Elliott Ramos, Yeah, swinging the bat well too. He came

1462
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 2: up really high I think on the bat speed charts. Yeah,

1463
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: he really takes hacks really really high.

1464
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: So these are like guys that again, prospect growth is

1465
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: not linear.

1466
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: No, it shouldn't be linear.

1467
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: We've gotten spoiled seeing Won Soto and Ronald the Couonys

1468
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: of the world, where you come up and you're the

1469
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: best player in baseball.

1470
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: But some of these guys take time. So even guy

1471
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: with Luciano who is like Fangrass gave him like the

1472
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 2: fabled like seventy hit grave when he was like eighteen

1473
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: and low I which he probably deserved. Also probably like

1474
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: made him get a little too hot fantasy baseball now ever,

1475
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: kind of think he's a bust. He just come up

1476
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: this week and just keeps hitting the ball hard. Like

1477
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: he's not chasing a guy who like who comes up

1478
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: in a couple games, like it's like four or five games.

1479
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: But Mark's chasing on eleven percent of pitches outside of

1480
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: really good would be one of the best raids in

1481
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: baseball if he was qualified and he hasn't really lifted

1482
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: the ball yet, but just if he's playing okay defensive shortstop,

1483
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 2: which I think he's playing acceptable defensive shortstop. You get

1484
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: the rounds on the ball, you got a couple of gaps.

1485
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 2: I think the power will come because he's all ninth

1486
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: in the line. He's still just twenty two years old.

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Speaker 2: Like it's just I think a lot of people get

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Speaker 2: tired of these prospects a little too early. Where there's

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Speaker 2: some fun to still be had.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, and Giants have been playing I think better baseball ofly.

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Speaker 1: I think they've gotten a little bit hot, if I

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Speaker 1: remember correctly.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three and twenty six. Yes, so they've They've won.

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Speaker 1: They won four in a row before losing to the

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Speaker 1: Pirates last night in extras because O'Neal Cruz decided to

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Speaker 1: hit three balls over one hundred and fifteen miles an hour,

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Speaker 1: which is disgusting, guys, not from playing at Earth, but

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Speaker 1: they're they're playing hot. Matt Chapman swinging the bat, I

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Speaker 1: think the best he has is a Giant since signing

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Speaker 1: with that team. So perfect time for a bad Mets

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Speaker 1: team to face him and.

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Speaker 2: Sol off the al Yeah so great. Uh, that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's it, guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening and watching this episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mess Up Podcast. We got reviews. I'm gonna

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00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: just do the thing while James is looking for him.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on all our social media at Mets Up

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. If you want to see

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Speaker 1: the YouTube version of this, the Mets the Podcast YouTube

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Speaker 1: channel will have that for you. And if you're listening

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Speaker 1: to us, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, whatever it is, drop

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Speaker 1: us a rating, drop.

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Speaker 2: Us a review, download and subscribe. Subscribe.

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Speaker 1: We really do appreciate you guys listening through the dog

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00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: days of May. This team is unenjoyable, not fun, and

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00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: we would love to have a little more fun on here,

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00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: but it's tough when the team plays like not a

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Speaker 1: baseball team.

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00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: So we'll see. Yeah, we have this. So there's one

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Speaker 2: review that was left on our YouTube channel by Sam

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00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: Johnson and he left to two straight videos. We missed

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00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: it last time. We just dejected, but he said left

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00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: on the last episode. But I don't blame you off

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00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: for not checking. It was a rough series in Miami.

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00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: Ten out of ten. I love your podcast. Can't wait

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00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: to come out every week. Loyal listener on YouTube, diehard

1527
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: Mets fan living in Philadelphia, so it's refreshing to hear

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00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: other Mets fans talk for an hour after every series,

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00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: when everyone around me just keeps cheering for the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: Keep up the good work. Let's go mets hell. Yeah nice?

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Speaker 2: All right? Do we have the Apple podcast? Once? It's

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Speaker 2: on my phone?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll look it up real quick, Mets up, Apple Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Good podcasting. It's towards the end. You guys love us.

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00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: You guys are here. You guys are here. We're hanging out.

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Speaker 2: Oh what you do for Memorial Day weekend? James? Nothing,

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00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: I'm hanging just hanging. Yeah, I mean, new job, I got.

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Speaker 2: I gotta shift on Friday and Sunday. But I think

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00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: Saturday and Monday'm gonna goo shows in the city. It's

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00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we have a bunch of new ones.

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Speaker 1: We read Brandon Lux Yeah, okay, so I think five

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Speaker 1: nineteen to five twenty those teams, right, we got We've.

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00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: Got four of them, five nineteen one Sundays. We might

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00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 2: have got a couple of dozen Sundays. Sam Johnson does

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00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: that one sound for me? But that was this one

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00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: I think he left on there.

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00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: And we've got three new ones. We've got Matt, Bud, Bud,

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Speaker 1: this is really long. Matt, all right, five stars, Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, long time listener. With a big question,

1551
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: big question for the boys, I'm concerned. First, I want

1552
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: to say I love the show. Definitely the most informative

1553
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: and unbiased baseball podcast round, let alone for the Mets.

1554
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 1: These guys never failed to provide intelligent insight and calmed

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00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: down after a bad series, Probably not this episode, but

1556
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: that being said, I'm writing this after the Marlin series

1557
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: and I think I have to be done with this

1558
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: team for the season. I know Saturday was pretty much

1559
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: entirely on Diaz and that this team still is only

1560
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: two games out of the wild, but what optimism can

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00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: still be had about this team, not only for this

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00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: season but next two. We knew this year was going

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00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: to be a buffer, and it's frustrating to see a

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00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: good team struggle like this. But it's fine. Like Cohen said,

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00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: this isn't gonna to be the year, but I honestly

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00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: don't see next year being the any better, and I

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00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: think it'll be worse. So finally, here's my question. If

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Speaker 1: the Mets keep playing like this, end up without or

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00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: without Alonso after the deadline, don't get Sodo coming off

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00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: the offseason, because let's be real, the Yankees are gonna

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00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: give him a blank check. JD has gone after one year.

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Speaker 1: What is what else is there to build on or

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00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: hope that.

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Speaker 2: This team could be a playoff team in twenty twenty five?

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00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: Is this Matt Bood? Yeah, he gave me the same

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00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: thing with my DMS. I haven't gotten too yet.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot. There's even more after it, but it's

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Speaker 1: I think it's comeditive.

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Speaker 2: I hate, I hate to bring this up what an

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Speaker 2: hour into this recording, but they did. There's some truth

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00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: to all that. Yeah, But I think a lot of

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00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: we talked about in the prospect off is probably the

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00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 2: way the Mets are trying and insulate themselves where they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe we have next year three free pitchers in this

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00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: rotation that we think are better than bad. Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: between Scott Sprot and maybe even Ted Well.

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Speaker 1: And again that's where money that could be spent that

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00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: could now go to other hitters.

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Speaker 2: So the three guys other free, and you could always

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Speaker 2: trades even you can always find a couple bats in

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01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: the offseason to fill in, especially things of the Mets

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01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: kind of need which they every team usually has but

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01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: the Mets don't, which have made it. It could be

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01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: first baseman, third baseman, corner outfield though usually the easiest

1595
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: positions to fill. So again maybe not corn ralflick as

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01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 2: the mark I was talking about there for one more year,

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: but it's just like you will be able to find

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01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: hitting a little more easily than pitching. So if you

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Speaker 2: have pitching, even if Lindor and Nimore just good baseball players,

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Speaker 2: you have a okay, you have a good spot to

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Speaker 2: start the lineup with. And we've seen the way the

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01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: Mets are comm being able to manipulate relievers this year

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01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: to get good relief pitching out of nowhere, so you're

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01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: confident that could be there. So there is again hope

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01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 2: to just be what we thought this team is gonna

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Speaker 2: be this year, which was a scrappy, fun five hundred team.

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Speaker 2: There are some reasons they were they just have They're

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01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: just lifeless. Yeah, no, they're just they're just kind of lifeless,

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Speaker 2: all right. Another one here from Kyle Frank He said,

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Speaker 2: redoing my review from two years ago. Been listening ever

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01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: since the beginning shout out Jeter had no range love

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01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: the prospect reports as It really goes to show what

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Speaker 2: the Cohen era has really been about when mainstream media

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01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 2: only looks at free agent signings that didn't quite work out.

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Speaker 2: Keep the good work and let's hope the that's turned

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01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: around for everyone's sanity. Kyle, you are correct, Thank you

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Speaker 2: for that.

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Speaker 1: And last one five stars from a w g H

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Speaker 1: five to four best Mets Pod in the game. Why

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Speaker 1: are there so many Mets pods? There's a lot to

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01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 1: talk about with this joke of a team. Let's hope

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01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: that this was rock bottom. Respect to you guys and

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01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: the rest of the ones who watched till the very end.

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01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: I think everybody everyone had the possibility that this year's

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01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: team could stink it up. It would have loved for

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Speaker 1: them to be fun and exciting, but we can't be

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01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: too surprised either. There's still time, but it would have,

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01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: but it would have to be dramatic turnaround in vibes.

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01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: Let's start trading off pieces while they still have value.

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01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: Who knows how this trade deadline is going to be

1631
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: after a weird offseason. Hopefully you guys get unbanned from

1632
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: Double A games. If you find your way to a

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01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: Rumble Ponies game, I'll come say what's up. LFGM appreciate you.

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01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: We're not banned from.

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01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: Games I know from talking to interview player.

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01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: We'd love to. So if anybody can help us, you

1637
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: can keep trying with Brooklyn. We would love to. But guys,

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Speaker 1: that's it for the episode. Makes you Follow James on

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01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: Twitter at James Underscorse ah draftick mark with a C

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01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: thank you as for listening and watching.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch you on the next one. Peace out. See

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Speaker 2: you guys next time.