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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in history class from housetop

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Speaker 1: works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: fair Downy and I'm Deblin a Chuck Rewarding, and we

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Speaker 1: have a story for you today. Now we are about

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Speaker 1: to begin, and you must attend. And when we get

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Speaker 1: to the end of the story, you will know more

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Speaker 1: than you do now about a very wicked hobgoblin. But

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Speaker 1: of a surprise, isn't it. Yes, But here's a twist

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Speaker 1: for you. We're actually not going to be talking about

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Speaker 1: hobgoblins and depth today, or are we, Sarah probably not

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Speaker 1: too in depth on the hobgoblins. No, we're actually going

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Speaker 1: to discuss the master of wicked creatures, snow queens, little

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Speaker 1: mermaids and ugly ducklings hands Christian Anderson, who is best

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Speaker 1: known as the father of the fairy tale and vying

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Speaker 1: for that spot actually with former podcast subjects The Brothers Grim.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to assume that most of you are

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Speaker 1: probably fairly familiar with some of Anderson's work. Encyclopedia Britannica

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Speaker 1: calls his fairy tales quote among the most frequently translated

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Speaker 1: works in all literary history, and I mean, you probably

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Speaker 1: read them in preschool, nursery schools, something like that, but

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Speaker 1: to graduate school. They've been adapted into movies and plays

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Speaker 1: and songs. Some of the best known stories include The

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Speaker 1: Little Mermaid, The Red Shoes, Thumbalina, The Princess, and the

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Speaker 1: pa But in addition to his famous fairy tales, Anderson

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Speaker 1: wrote novels, plays, travelogs, so much material, in fact, he

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Speaker 1: was often criticized for overproducing, not something you usually here

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Speaker 1: about a writer. In Denmark, Anderson is considered a national hero,

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Speaker 1: fulfilling a fortune teller's prophecy no less. But outside of

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Speaker 1: his home country he's often a famous name with no background,

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Speaker 1: the author of the Ugly Duckling, or just that guy

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Speaker 1: from the Central Park statue, but nothing really more than that.

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Speaker 1: But it turns out that Anderson had a really fascinating,

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Speaker 1: often unsettling life, one with amazing professional success and intense

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Speaker 1: personal complications, to which will go into a little bit

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Speaker 1: appropriately enough, it all starts out a little bit like

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Speaker 1: a fairy tale, and we should note too, before we

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Speaker 1: Anglicized pronunciation of hands. Christian Anderson So He was born

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Speaker 1: His mother was an alcoholic washerwoman with very intense superstitions

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Speaker 1: that influenced Anderson a lot later in his life. Even

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Speaker 1: grandmother had also been put in jail young for howing

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Speaker 1: too many illegitimate children, and after his father died at

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Speaker 1: fortune teller. The woman read his mother's cards and Anderson's

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Speaker 1: who also had a sort of surprising fortune as a

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Speaker 1: He'd been given Latin lessons in Danish lessons, and he'd

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Speaker 1: to so many places. He visited Paris and Dresden, Rome, Naples, Malta, Constantinople, Athens,

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Speaker 1: that's the perfect one to end on for Hans Christian Anderson.

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