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Speaker 3: This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.

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Speaker 1: What is up? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. I am Nick

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Speaker 1: Eatman Here. It's Tuesday, February the thirteenth, and it is

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Speaker 1: officially off season for everybody. Now, it's been off season

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Speaker 1: for some teams sooner than others. We know that, but

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Speaker 1: now everyone's in the same boat. Every football game is

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Speaker 1: over in the NFL. I guess there's other leagues that

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Speaker 1: will be playing and nobody will get excited about that

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Speaker 1: sort of But for the Cowboys, the off season has

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Speaker 1: been been among us for a while. But we've got

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Speaker 1: some new changes obviously with them, and there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: more to come. Mike Zimmer officially, I say officially, I

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Speaker 1: still think I don't know if they've signed the contract yet,

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Speaker 1: but it's officially agreed to terms. He's going to be

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator and now we'll see where the dominoes

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Speaker 1: fall on the rest of the staff. What happens there,

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Speaker 1: what happens with other position coaches, some that are still

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Speaker 1: under contract. Does you know, do the Cowboys want to

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Speaker 1: keep them. Does that somebody that fits into what Zimmer's

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Speaker 1: trying to do. Uh, you know, we'll see. There'll be

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Speaker 1: some there'll be some moving parts for sure going on there.

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Speaker 1: So eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven.

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Speaker 1: I believe we have one phone line open right now,

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Speaker 1: so you know, we're still kind of getting into off

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Speaker 1: season mode. So please join us. We got one caller

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Speaker 1: on the line. He's he's called a few times. Brian

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Brian, are you going to the parade?

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Speaker 4: Oh? No, I don't think they would want me to

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Speaker 4: wear Miami Smith jersey down there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if they'll care

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Speaker 1: who's down there. You know, at that point when you

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Speaker 1: have a parade, it doesn't really matter. Thanks for coming out.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Not too much?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: I saw what looked like we lost maybe our third defensive.

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Speaker 4: Is that the third loss was Durden A Durden the

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Speaker 4: third guy we lost this year. So we lost Quinn

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Speaker 4: and so is that it is that all we lost

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Speaker 4: so far?

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Speaker 1: So far? But okay, but stay tuned. I mean there'll

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Speaker 1: be some. I mean that's just natural. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. I mean Zimmer's not gonna come here and

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Speaker 1: be like yep, I like them all, Like all these

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Speaker 1: guys are good. I mean, he'll have he'll he'll make

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Speaker 1: some changes. You know.

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Speaker 4: That was gonna be my question for you. So I'm

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Speaker 4: glad you brought that up. I was just curious, you know,

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Speaker 4: excuse me, based on what you saw the last time

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Speaker 4: he was here, you know, what you thought he might

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Speaker 4: bring to the table, and and hopefully in the upcoming

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Speaker 4: you know, month or so, somebody will do like a

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Speaker 4: I forget what they call that show hit sticks. I

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Speaker 4: think they call it hits when they do a show

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Speaker 4: that kind of explains scheme because you know, for somebody

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Speaker 4: like me, you know, I always say I'm the Joe

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Speaker 4: and Flower Mound guy that brought us is always talking

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Speaker 4: about right. I can recognize some defenses. I don't recognize

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Speaker 4: all this new you know, some of the most exotic stuffs.

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Speaker 4: I'd love for somebody to say, Okay, here's what we

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Speaker 4: were running last year, here's what we're running. Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: know what we think. You know, obviously we don't know,

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Speaker 4: but what we think is coming right, you know, based

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Speaker 4: I don't really have another question because you kind of

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Speaker 4: already hit on it. But I do have a player

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Speaker 4: for you, right was here the year you got here.

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Speaker 4: Only played for two years for the Cowboys. Billy wide receiver,

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Speaker 4: Billy Davis.

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Speaker 1: That's so funny that you say this. This is this

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Speaker 1: is funny, Brian, that you say this because Billy Davis.

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Speaker 1: I just typed this out. I counted fifteen players, fifteen

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Speaker 1: I saw fifteen former players and I'm like typing it out,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I think I might read this list.

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Speaker 1: don't worry about that. But Billy Davis was one of them.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I wonder how many people really remember

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Speaker 1: Billy Davis. But that's funny because he was he was

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Speaker 1: on he was on my list, and I thought, you

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Speaker 1: know what, Brian, Kansas City, he probably would know him.

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Speaker 1: And then here you are asking me about him.

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Speaker 5: So funny.

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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I was trying to pick out a guy

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Speaker 4: here for a long time. Yeah, And it was during

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Speaker 4: your first year. So yeah, act she got a story

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Speaker 4: about him that you can remember, that'd be great. I'm

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Speaker 4: going to hang up to other people can get through brother.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, Brian, I appreciate it. The only

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Speaker 1: story I really remember to Billy Davis. Actually, I think

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Speaker 1: he ended playing for the cow was in ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: so I technically started in ninety nine. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he was on the ninety nineteen, but in ninety eight

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Speaker 1: I was here covering the team. I was doing little

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Speaker 1: interning and working for witchdaff Falls Paper and all that,

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Speaker 1: and I do remember an interview where he was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, if I have you know, if I caught

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Speaker 1: one hundred passes for you know, fifteen hundred yards, then

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Speaker 1: then I would have the contract or some something like that.

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Speaker 1: And they said, well, if you catch fifteen hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: you know, what what does that mean? He goes, well,

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Speaker 1: it means I'm gonna be in Hawaii, That's what it means,

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Speaker 1: you know. And the way the way I don't know,

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Speaker 1: the way he said it was just kind of funny

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Speaker 1: because you know, think think like Noah Brown saying that,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And then here's fifteen hundred

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Speaker 1: yards or Jayalen Dilbert or somebody like that. Going back

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Speaker 1: to Zimmer, you know, if you've ever met him, he's intense. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's just that's what he is. He coaches that way.

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Speaker 1: He that's the way. That's why his life is, that's

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Speaker 1: why he calls games. Is very physical. Your hat, you

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Speaker 1: have to be tough, you have to have a physical

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Speaker 1: presence about you. Uh. He plays more for three, but

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Speaker 1: he has played the three four before when he was

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Speaker 1: here with Parcels. Parcels loved him. He didn't think he

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Speaker 1: ended up. You know, he's showing some versatility there. And

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Speaker 1: you kind of saw that sum with Minnesota, the way

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Speaker 1: they would stand Anthony Barr up at times and then

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Speaker 1: you've got the pieces. Not every team can go for

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Speaker 1: Belichick was able to do it some because he was

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Speaker 1: he's he'll be he'll be a very physical I mean

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Speaker 1: he'll need physical players to play in a physical approach.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to a text line question here.

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Speaker 1: This is Josh. He's a fourth grade teacher. He says,

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Speaker 1: what does San Francisco and the Chiefs have the Cowboys don't.

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Speaker 1: My opinion is grit. How do they get that? Well,

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Speaker 1: you get a guy like Mike Zimmer to be your

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator because he's got that for sure. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: can help some there on defense. I agree. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a toughness factor there, I think. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: answer this question on the mail bag. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: don't know if Kansas City has the best football team

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Speaker 1: in the league. I don't think they do. They absolutely

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Speaker 1: have the best football player. He's the MVP of the league.

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Speaker 1: They just kind of like to pass this around to

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Speaker 1: different players. But it's just like it was in the

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Speaker 1: want to give it to Barkley and give it to

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Speaker 1: Carl Malone. That's fine, we know who the best player

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Speaker 1: player without a doubt, Patrick Mahomes. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: thought the Niners were the better team. I think he

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Speaker 1: he got the ball last, he went out and won

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Speaker 1: the game. That's what the Chiefs have that nobody else has.

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Speaker 1: And the forty nine ers, I think have. You know,

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Speaker 1: they've got a dynamic player too, and Christian McCaffrey. They

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Speaker 1: they they are very very good because they have different

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Speaker 1: they have unique weapons that can do different things. And

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Speaker 1: their quarterback is really good. I don't you know, you

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Speaker 1: know what I think about game managers and bus drivers.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fine. I don't think that's slight at all.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's a really good quarterback. So you know,

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Speaker 1: they they have but they they all they went I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they went all in, but they they

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Speaker 1: definitely sold out to get, you know, some really good

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Speaker 1: have some contract issues here down the road. The good

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Speaker 1: thing for them is their quarterbacks still making about a

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Speaker 1: million dollars right now all right, another text question, Ron,

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Speaker 1: he's in Concord, California. How do you think Zimmer will

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Speaker 1: use Parsons? It's a great question. That's the one that's

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Speaker 1: later this week. If that happens, that's that's one for him. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: what do I think I think he'll He'll play some

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Speaker 1: at times they'll he'll drop back and cover. To me,

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Speaker 1: that can go back from a three to four to

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Speaker 1: got to use him all over the place. Honestly, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he will. He will do things much

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Speaker 1: different than others. But it's also going to be how

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Speaker 1: do the other pieces fit into the scheme. That's that's

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Speaker 1: the key. If you're going to move him around, other

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Speaker 6: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: How you doing this?

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Speaker 6: I've been licking my wounds longer than usual because I

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Speaker 6: had the bright idea to go on X or Twitter

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Speaker 6: and tweet that I thought the Cowboys are going to

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Speaker 6: make the NCY Championship, and you know, you know what happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you know, good good old, good old fashioned clunker on

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Speaker 6: both sides of the ball, right, And you know what

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Speaker 6: you know I said earlier in the year, I thought

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Speaker 6: McCarthy was little bit outdated. He got better throughout the year,

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Speaker 6: but I think one thing he needs and Dak needs,

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Speaker 6: we we have to manufacture a very good run game.

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Speaker 4: We have to.

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Speaker 1: That.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we can talk about what we need on defense,

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Speaker 6: we can talk about changing coordinators, we could talk about

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Speaker 6: replacing Tyring and add another receiver. At the end of

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Speaker 6: the day, if you can run the ball that travels

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Speaker 6: that that does well for you in cold weather in

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Speaker 6: the playoffs, it takes pressure off of everybody. I don't

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Speaker 6: know what the answer is there. I don't know what

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Speaker 6: this draft has, but man, we just need a hammerhead

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: So? Man, how you doing?

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Speaker 1: we need you to call man. We don't have anybody

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Speaker 1: that's ever called from Massachusetts, not one call ever from Massachusetts.

433
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: So Mike, thanks for the text, but tell your buddies

434
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: or somebody to call. But his question is how crazy

435
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: you think Rex Ryan's comments were when he blatantly said

436
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: he would not count on Mike Zimmer being hired. He

437
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: went on to elaborate that he reached out to McCarthy

438
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 1: and the Joneses during UH, saying that he wanted to

439
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 1: join them and get them over the Super Bowl hump. Yeah,

440
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: kind of weird. It makes more sense now because he's

441
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: always been huge cowboy hater like you just you can

442
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: see it on the shows. He's on the ESPN Countdown

443
00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: or whatever. You can see all that, and UH it shifted.

444
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 1: You could tell it shifted during the playoffs. I remember

445
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,239
Speaker 1: listening to it. I don't try to listen to him

446
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: that much, but listened to it, and I just thought,

447
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: this is kind of odd. You know, he's always the

448
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: first one he I thought he was gonna cry about

449
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: the Lions game, you know, when when with the officials

450
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: and reporting and eligible and all that. I mean, he he,

451
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was gonna be able to make

452
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: it to the show and so, uh, you know, but now,

453
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,479
Speaker 1: but then he kind of shifted as talented team they

454
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: could win and all that. So now you knew what

455
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 1: was going on. He was trying to campaign for it.

456
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, the Zimber thing took a

457
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 1: little bit of time. I think there was obviously some

458
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: contract involved of a contract, you know, issues there. But also,

459
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: I mean there's a window between Friday and Sunday night

460
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: and Monday that the NFL really doesn't want anybody breaking

461
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: any kind of news or announcing anything. So even though

462
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, they looks like they had it kind of

463
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 1: done Thursday, hashing some things out, but then by you know,

464
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: by Monday, now all of a sudden it's agreed to terms.

465
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Speaker 1: I think it was probably agreed over the weekend. They

466
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 1: just didn't want to announce some things because I'll say this,

467
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: it looks like there's already some new coaches in the building.

468
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: So there's been some conversations like I think this, this

469
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: was gonna this has been in the works all right,

470
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Speaker 1: Rob in Vegas? What's up? I didn't see you, man, No, I.

471
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 9: Know there was no way you could get in. I

472
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 9: you know, I looked into it, but they don't accept

473
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 9: the public where you guys were, so we'd be like,

474
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 9: no way.

475
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

476
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 1: It was it was tough. I mean well, I mean

477
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I like you have to walk through

478
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: like casinos and stuff like that. So you know, Vegas

479
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: isn't very fun if you're not being able to gamble

480
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: and do all that kind of stuff. You know, you're just.

481
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 9: Yeah, if you're going to a casino or even you

482
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 9: know down on the strip, if you're not into gambling

483
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 9: or eating. They got great restaurants.

484
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: I was surprised at how many things closed at eleven.

485
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: I was like, what's going on here? Thought, this place

486
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: never steeps, So maybe not going to the right places.

487
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're not going the right place, or maybe I am.

488
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I am going to the right places, the ones

489
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: that close at eleven.

490
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 9: True, But how'd you like Vegas? Did you do anything good?

491
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: Not really. I wasn't there that that long, you know,

492
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: and so I was just there for like two nights.

493
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 1: It was fine. It was fine. But you know, the

494
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: Zimmer News, you know, like the focus was was covering

495
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: NFL Honors and then then all of a sudden it

496
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: shifted to Zimmer and trying to track that story down,

497
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: which worked out because they didn't win win anything in

498
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: the NFL Honors. So and Woodson didn't didn't get you know,

499
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: didn't get out of Hall of Fame. So you know,

500
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Speaker 1: it was just kind of a it was kind of

501
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: a wow.

502
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Speaker 9: I mean I thought the game itself was I thought

503
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 9: it was boring in the beginning. Obviously what quarter and listen,

504
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 9: I thought the coach of the forty nine ers blew it.

505
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, put the.

506
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 9: Ball in party's hand a little too much. I think

507
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 9: they should have ran.

508
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 6: The ball more.

509
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 9: And then why you would take the ball and over

510
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 9: time and then it doesn't matter what you do. But

511
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 9: once you kick that field goal, you knew. Patrick Mahomes

512
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 9: said to himself, wait a minute, all I need is

513
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 9: a field goal, and you're giving me four downs every time.

514
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 9: Every time this is done, this is done. And I thought,

515
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 9: and then, could you imagine if this was Mike McCarthy

516
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 9: after the game and the player said, oh yeah, we

517
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 9: didn't even know the rules, could you they would defied

518
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 9: the Cowboys.

519
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yep. And I have some thoughts on that.

520
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: I have some thoughts on this whole thing about really

521
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: who's to blame? But but yeah, I mean I thought

522
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: that the whole thing was crazy. I mean it was,

523
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: it was, yeah, but I just yeah, you give Mahomes

524
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Speaker 1: a chance like that. I mean it's basically like in

525
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: baseball really when you think about it, I mean it's like,

526
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: all right, we're at the bottom of the ninth. I mean,

527
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: we wanted bad last, so we can kind of know

528
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: what we need to do. Sure, you know, that's kind

529
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Speaker 1: of what it is.

530
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Speaker 6: You know.

531
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Speaker 9: I'm hearing people now, some people on the Big Cowboys

532
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 9: shows talk about zim or how they don't know if

533
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 9: he could relate to today's player, and I'm like, who cares. Yeah,

534
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 9: I mean, he's your boss. He's your boss. You don't

535
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 9: have to like him. And I got to be honest

536
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 9: once I heard Michael Parson's refer to Dan Quinn as

537
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 9: like an uncle. I said, no time to go. Now

538
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 9: you see why this team led the league and penalties,

539
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 9: why you would see they would make some bonehead plays.

540
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 9: And now I'm glad I called last week. I said

541
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 9: I wanted Zimmers just for the tough factor. I would

542
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 9: love to see him bulk up Michaeh Parsons and make

543
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 9: them a full time I mean defensive end.

544
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: You know, when you think about that, I've never really

545
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: heard that many people referred to that as like he's

546
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Speaker 1: like an uncle, because I mean, doesn't that kind of

547
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: tell you a little bit what's going on. I mean,

548
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: uncle tells you, hey, you know, calm down or you know,

549
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: you keep it down, baby sleeping or whatever. But they

550
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: don't whip your ass. I mean, you know, as your uncle.

551
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 9: You know, nobody nobody referred to Bill Parcells, well, Bill

552
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 9: Belichick as uncle. No, no, you know. And and I listen,

553
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 9: I like Michaeh. It bothered me. He said he had

554
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 9: Jordan Love on the show. Jordan Love is basically sitting

555
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 9: across from Mike and basically telling Michaeh to his face, dude,

556
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 9: we destroyed you because we knew you were a week

557
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 9: against the run you can and I'm like, what is

558
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 9: going on here? But that's today. I mean, I get it.

559
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 9: As much as I liked Mike on the field, it's like,

560
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 9: I think he'd rather be a sports commentator at a

561
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 9: football player sometime.

562
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and ill unless unless his teammate just won an award,

563
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, at the honors, at least goes up there

564
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: and doesn't say anything that I thought that was ironical, Like,

565
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: this is a guy that has been talking all week

566
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: at Vegas, right, he talked a lot, and then they

567
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: went the next gen status moment of the year. I mean,

568
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: I know that CD I guess wasn't there to get it,

569
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: but he could say something, So I just thought that

570
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: was kind of weird. It's like the guy doesn't say

571
00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: anything when you want him to, and then when you don't.

572
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 9: City lamb did. I I did like what he said.

573
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 9: He said, I need to grow up and I need

574
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 9: to take more control, and I thought, that's that's what

575
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 9: the one of the best players in the league and

576
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 9: especially on the team, should say. And I thought that

577
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 9: was great. I liked how he talked about his mom

578
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 9: comment real quick didn't really get it, but said, hey, listen,

579
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 9: that's that's my mom and I get that. Yeah, but uh,

580
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 9: I just think Micah needs a kick in the butt.

581
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 9: Let's be honest, and if if anybody's going to do it,

582
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 9: it's gonna be Zim. He'll bring out the best Yeah

583
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 9: in my in Michael. But I would love to see

584
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 9: him put on twenty pounds. I don't want him being

585
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 9: a linebacker. He doesn't want it. Get some good linebackers

586
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 9: in free agency and put him up and down the

587
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 9: line at about two sixty five and hopefully he doesn't

588
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 9: wear out where he's only good, giving us one sack

589
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 9: in December.

590
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got to realize that it's okay not

591
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: to beat Tyreek Hill in a race. You know, it's okay.

592
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: It's okay that you're not doing that, which I think

593
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: we all know if we saw the race, he didn't

594
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: really beat Tyre.

595
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 9: I mean, he's a phenom and yeah, I know he's

596
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 9: fast and that's great, but you know you've got fast

597
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 9: enough to make up for three hundred pound guys smashing

598
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 9: on you.

599
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: All right, Rob, thanks for the call, man, good stuff,

600
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: You got it all right? You know we have an

601
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: article should be on the website now or soon about

602
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: I did talk to Darren Woodson about Mike Zimmer and

603
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: he one thing that he said, this is the headline

604
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: of the article, is that he's not going to be

605
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: their friend. He's not. That's not what he's there to do.

606
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: And he tells the story. You know, I've told the

607
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: story that he said in here about how he just basically,

608
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 1: you know, said, right, here's all your bad place from

609
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: last year. You kind of you know, humbles these guys.

610
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: That's what they need to hear so they can be elite.

611
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: You know, he wants the great ones to be elite.

612
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: He wants the good ones to be great. He wants

613
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: the ones that aren't very good to be good. I mean,

614
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: whatever that next level is for you. And and you

615
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: know he's probably never seen the perfect person, the perfect player.

616
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: So that mean, I mean he did coach Dion. You know,

617
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: I bet he was pretty critical on Dion. Dion loves him.

618
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he absolutely loves Zimmer. So and that's one story.

619
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: I do remember one time, I remember sitting on a

620
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: bus after the Cowboys played the Giants in the meadow Lands.

621
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: It was nineteen ninety nine, and Zimmer was the defensive

622
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: backs coach, Campo was the coordinator, and and Gaily was

623
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: the head coach. And there was a lot of talk

624
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: that Campo was going to get a head coaching job.

625
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: And I remember they had lost to the Giants and

626
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: Dion was on the bus. He was on saying I

627
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: was probably on the wrong bus because Dion walks right

628
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: by and he says to Campo, don't take Zim with you,

629
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: camps when you get a job. Come to find out,

630
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: Gaily is the one that got fired. Campo got promoted

631
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, but there's how much respect that

632
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: he had for him. Let me go back to the

633
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: play of the forty nine ers on Shanahan not taking

634
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: the ball. I thought of it immediately. But I'll say this,

635
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: and I've said it before, this is not just because

636
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl. I think it's ridiculous that we

637
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: have different rules for the Super Bowl or even for

638
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You shouldn't get to the ultimate game and

639
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: not know what the rule is. What is the rule

640
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: in this like, it makes no sense to me. These

641
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: games all matter? Okay, how many games? I mean that.

642
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: It just showing Jason Garrett up here, he gets talked about.

643
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: He think his playoff record never gets mentioned. It's the

644
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: elimination games that get mentioned. Because he lost some elimination

645
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: games which aren't playoff games, but we'll just call him

646
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: elimination games. That's a good way to kind of bash

647
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: on his record. Even more, well, that means those games matter.

648
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: There's regular season games that matter. This is it. Either

649
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: you make it or you don't. You only play seventeen games,

650
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: some of them are very very important. So why we

651
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: have different rules? Who cares about if the game goes

652
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: long twenty minutes, It'll be fine. Sixty minutes will air

653
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: on the West coast, right, I mean, crap, we'll watch

654
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: it then, Like it doesn't matter if these games, just

655
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: make it fair and do it the whole time, so

656
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: you don't get to the playoffs and no one knows

657
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: what the hell's going on because there hasn't been a game.

658
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the forty nine ers, you know, I'm

659
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: not excusing them for that, but they hadn't played in

660
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: these games, and they probably should have because they you

661
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: would have had the rule like that. There's no reason

662
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: why if the rule is good enough for the regular season,

663
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean, for the playoffs, Why is it not good

664
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: enough for the regular season. Don't throw baseball at me

665
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: or hockey or anything like that, because they play one

666
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two baseball games and eighty two hockey

667
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 1: and basketball games. So if you want to switch it up,

668
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: that's fine. You have plenty of chances to get to

669
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But in football you have seventeen games. So

670
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: there's no reason why these games should be considered not

671
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: as important as the playoffs. If this is the rule,

672
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: this is the way you want it in the playoffs,

673
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: make it that way in the regular season. That's it's

674
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: my rant for the day. All right, we have another

675
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: caller here. We got Scott in New Hampshire.

676
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 8: Nick, you hear me?

677
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what's up. I know you've been holding a

678
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: little bit. How you doing?

679
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, no problem, dude, I'm just excited to talk to you. Yeah,

680
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 8: but a little bit. Last time we chatted, I think

681
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 8: we were approaching the Packer game and with the excitement

682
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 8: was there and now obviously we are where we're at now. Yeah,

683
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 8: I think, uh, first off, I wanted to say thank you.

684
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 8: I mean, we talk about the Dallas Cowboys. I think

685
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 8: I speak for every caller who calls in, there really

686
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 8: is no offseason for us. I mean the true fans,

687
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 8: like we are excited for the draft, We're excited for

688
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 8: free agency? Yeah, or are we Our expectations probably lower

689
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 8: than we had hoped, and we were, you know, dealing

690
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 8: with the disappointment. Yeah, but you know, I feel like

691
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 8: the true fans are still going to be following the Cowboys.

692
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: Yep.

693
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 8: Thank you, so thanks to keep thanks keep giving us content.

694
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 8: Thank my. My big question and I'll hang out, is

695
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 8: when we look at Micha McCarthy. One thing that he's

696
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 8: done is he's given his captains bi weekly. And one

697
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 8: thing that we've noticed, I feel like is a lack

698
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 8: of leadership on this team. And even on Michael Parsons

699
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 8: podcasting and Cede Lamb are talking about how there really isn't,

700
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 8: you know, much leadership and that they need to hold

701
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 8: themselves more accountable. And I'm just curious if that's maybe

702
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 8: something that goes into it is we don't actually have

703
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 8: assigned leaders or assigned captains for the entire season, and

704
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 8: that people kind of get to check in and check

705
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 8: out each week with who their captains are. So I'll

706
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 8: hang up and listen. I just I appreciate you taking

707
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 8: a call.

708
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much, Scott. That's a really good point.

709
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: Let's said. I don't know if not everybody's listening or

710
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: not everybody, I'm sorry, and everybody's watching, so I'll say

711
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: that I'm not I'm not sure if that matters at all,

712
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: as I nod my head, yeah, I think it doesn't matter.

713
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a heck of a point when you're

714
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: when you have a team that you think there's a

715
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: leadership void, or you think that there's there's some not

716
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: as much continuity as you would need. I thought this

717
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: same thing when I watch the Super Bowl, when I

718
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: watch the guys up there, and I don't know if

719
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: they do that differently in the playoffs or maybe who knows,

720
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: maybe McCarthy has a different plan for the playoffs. So

721
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: how it builds up I don't really remember. I can't

722
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: tell you who the captains were for the Packers game. Honestly,

723
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what they did there. But I see

724
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: it every week. I mean every week you go and

725
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: you know they're playing the Eagles, and there's you know,

726
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: there's Hurts, there's Reddick, you know, there's Lane Johnson, you know,

727
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: and then you've got you know, no offense to these guys,

728
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: but I mean you know you've got you know, some

729
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: lineback you know, or Marquise Bell you know, is as

730
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Speaker 1: a captain for the week, or or you know, maybe

731
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: it's your long snapper or Trent c Here, you know,

732
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: whoever it is. I mean, and there's a method to it.

733
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: He doesn't really share it with us, which is fine,

734
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: but you know, it's just it seems more like a

735
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, little league soccer, you know, trophies where everybody

736
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: gets what everyone gets to be captain at some point.

737
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way they do it. When my

738
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: son was playing soccer, you know, it was like you're

739
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: the captain. You're the captain today, Like yes, you know,

740
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: tales never fails. I mean, that's that's what you have

741
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: to do. But I think it goes more to it

742
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: than that when you're talking about actual leaders on the team.

743
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: And you know, me personally, I never coached the game

744
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I know I never will, but

745
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean I would have. I would have a special

746
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: teams a captain, a defensive captain, and an offensive captain

747
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: every game. These three guys and if you want to

748
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: do some kind of thing where this week it's this

749
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: guy or whatever, it's the fourth one or fourth and

750
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: fifth or whatever you want to say, that's fine. You

751
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: know you can put five out there. But I mean

752
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: every week I think you need to have you know,

753
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: Dak should be the captain or Tank or Mike or

754
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: whoever it is on defense. You know, those should be

755
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: the guys and then then you can mix it up

756
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: from there. That's just my opinion. Is that the reason

757
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: why they're losing? No, probably not, but you know what,

758
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: like you said, it's a long offseason, so we had

759
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: a lot of things to talk about, and that could

760
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: be one of them. All Right, Travis and san Antonio,

761
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: what's going on?

762
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: Nick?

763
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: How man? How are you doing?

764
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 10: Pretty good? Tales never failed for sure? Always yeah to

765
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 10: go for me, I was I didn't watch the game.

766
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 10: I've entered my krusty stage of like when the Cowboys

767
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 10: are out, I'm out.

768
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: And so you've never seen a Super Bowl, Like you

769
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: haven't seen one in thirty years.

770
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 10: I haven't seen one in probably the last five.

771
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 1: Really.

772
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's just and I think, well, I mean, to

773
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 10: be fair, part of it is I get into the

774
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 10: draft stuff, so I kind of shift my focus and

775
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 10: just focus into that, just because the last couple year

776
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 10: it has been so brutal that I just turn it off.

777
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 10: That's my I'll out myself, that's my defense mechan I

778
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 10: just don't not interesting.

779
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: To me anymore.

780
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 10: After the Cowboys are out. But the DeMarcus Ware thing, sorry,

781
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 10: ye Lawrence, I heard that, and I don't know, and

782
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 10: I know there's been different things said about like maybe

783
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 10: he was trying to protect some people or whatnot, and

784
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 10: I just just it was one of those things where

785
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 10: it flustered me so much where I was just like,

786
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 10: even if that's the case, you just it's just some

787
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 10: things you just can't say. Because there's only two things

788
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 10: in sports, at least from competing, whether it's a local

789
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 10: basketball court or a football field, there's only two words

790
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 10: that usually get guys going, and that's the B word

791
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 10: and soft, and I just I can't. Yeah, there's some others,

792
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 10: but those are definitely two. To hear those two and

793
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 10: there's usually something going on, and that's you know, football

794
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 10: players are for sure.

795
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 6: Yeah you don't.

796
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 10: You never want to hear soft, and that just to

797
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 10: me screams. That's what you're saying, that's what That's what

798
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 10: opponost want to hear. They want to hear like, oh,

799
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 10: this guy's tired, and he's telling me he's tired. Even

800
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 10: if you're on a field and you're tired, you're not

801
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 10: going to say it to somebody because they're going to

802
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 10: go after you. And that part was tough to hear. Micah,

803
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 10: I think he's getting to the point where this not

804
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 10: against anybody doing their own thing, but it's getting to

805
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 10: the point where, like you just watch stuff on Twitter

806
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 10: and he's responding to trolls, he's responding to just just

807
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 10: like honestly me, like dudes like me. He's just responding

808
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 10: to everybody. And I think it's starting to get to

809
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 10: a point with him where it's like a law of

810
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 10: diminishing returns, where it's like like KD went through this

811
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 10: and eventually he figured it out, like you're playing a

812
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 10: game that you can't win with the media and respond

813
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 10: to every Fred or Joe and you know, flower mouth,

814
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 10: but this random places. So hopefully maybe later in his

815
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 10: career he'll figure it out that it's just not as

816
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 10: it's not worth, you know, responding to everybody on Twitter.

817
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 10: I'm not saying that that's contributing to like, you know,

818
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 10: wins and losses. But I just think it's a waste

819
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 10: of his time.

820
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 6: But that's just me.

821
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: It's not just it's not just you. It's not just you.

822
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of people that think that way.

823
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, like that's that's a popular opinion. So

824
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: when you say it's just me, it isn't. It isn't.

825
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that feel that way. And

826
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: it's getting you know, it's getting to be problematic, and

827
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 1: it's getting to be really problematic when you start calling

828
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: out your own teammates. Uh. And I don't know if

829
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: he necessarily called them out, but he sure didn't come

830
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: to their defense. And so maybe that's the same thing.

831
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 10: And I know you mentioned this earlier, and I'll say

832
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 10: this and then I'll get off and see what you think.

833
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 10: But I do you know, we've we've talked about in

834
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 10: the past with this team, and I'm not saying I'm

835
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 10: not going to be you know, disrespect. I have respect

836
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 10: for again for Dmarcus Lawrence thinking I'm sure he's great guy.

837
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 10: You know, he's always I've never had any issues. However,

838
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 10: it does between that and maybe it's just this week

839
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 10: with mic and stuff. We need more CD lambs and

840
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 10: less of that type of stuff. And it just makes

841
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 10: me wonder, and I hate to say it, but makes

842
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 10: me wonder. Like you said, how close is the team,

843
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 10: maybe it's not as close as we thought. And at

844
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 10: the same time we've said we have the right guys,

845
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 10: we say that, you know, we say that the last six, seven,

846
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 10: eight years, Maybe we don't have enough of the right guys.

847
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 10: You just see what you think.

848
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good point. You know, you need more.

849
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: That's it's just like with playmakers. You know, like, yeah,

850
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: we got some playmakers, but you need you need more

851
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: of them. You need more of them at the right

852
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: spot at the right time. You mean, this team hat

853
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: what ten Pro bowlers on the team that they have talent,

854
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: but but there's it's at different spots too, you know,

855
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: and you need some at You can't have a pro

856
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: bowler at every position, but you can you can certainly try.

857
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: So you know the thing he's still there.

858
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I was gonna say. And last thing I

859
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 10: was gonna say, because everyone's been saying, even though it's repetitive,

860
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 10: is Darren Woods in regardless of the game, not watching

861
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 10: the game, Darren Woodson not getting into the whole fame

862
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 10: as absolute bull. You know what, Yeah, that's just that's

863
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 10: just what it is. So I don't know what they're

864
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 10: doing as far as voting and what not, but I'm

865
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 10: not getting in. Is it's a bleeping joke, is what

866
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 10: it is.

867
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: All Right, Thanks Dravis, I appreciate that. Thanks to call

868
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: for the call. Let's go to Derek and Seattle. Derek,

869
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: what's up?

870
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 6: Man?

871
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: Hey there, how you doing?

872
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm doing good?

873
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: All right? What do you got?

874
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 5: I'm just calling just two things. One is it seems

875
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 5: like Dallas is just the last couple of years they've

876
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 5: shifted to playing these seven safeties on the field and

877
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 5: it's killing me because we get ran all over. So

878
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 5: just the thought on, you know, they need two real linebackers,

879
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 5: and then they got to run the ball. I just

880
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 5: you know. And and then the other thing is, you know,

881
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 5: you always hear people say, oh, they're so far away.

882
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 5: So in one off season, you can turn your whole

883
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 5: team around. If you hit on two or three draft picks,

884
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 5: two or three free agents, boom, they're right there for

885
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 5: competing for a championship.

886
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and I appreciate it. First time call, right, Derek,

887
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: first time call, Yeah, awesome.

888
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 5: Since I was an infant so watched all the Super Bowls.

889
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 5: But it has been a long dry run.

890
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: It has, it has, and it gets mentioned every year,

891
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: it gets it gets painted out every year. How many

892
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: years it's been. Nobody ever has to do any research

893
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: on that, Like how long has it been? Like everybody

894
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: knows is this year is going to be twenty nine.

895
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: Everybody knows, we get it. No, You're right, running the

896
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: ball and stopping the run. I mean, uh, more linebackers,

897
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: more more beefing in the middle to run the football.

898
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that's that's the that's got

899
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: to be the key. That's got to be the key

900
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: for this team. And you know, like you said, you

901
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: got to have a good offseason. You got to hit

902
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: on some of these draft picks, got to hit on

903
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: some free agents. You also need to have, you know,

904
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: some a new coordinator that that could maybe change the things.

905
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean think about when and Dan Quinn was here,

906
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, he he actually gave you some better players

907
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: with the guys you had already on the team. You know,

908
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: like like what he gave you with Donovan Wilson. I mean,

909
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: he made Donvan Wilson into a really good player, I think,

910
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: just the way he used him, you know. And so

911
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: think like that when you look at free agency as

912
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: well and say, all right, oh, they signed some guy,

913
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: like who's this guy? You know, I've never heard of

914
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: him where he play played for the Vikings, Like oh, okay,

915
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: never heard of him, kind of like you had never

916
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: heard of jay Ron Curse really, you know. But Quinn

917
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: had had a plan for him, just like Zimmer might

918
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: have a plan for some of these guys and how

919
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna fit this team. So Belichick did that for

920
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: years too, like bringing in guys that you wouldn't think

921
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: were that good or whatever, but he had a role

922
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: for them. So yeah, you can. You can make some

923
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: splashes in the offseason, especially when you're changing up your

924
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: scheme and your coordinator like this, All right, well, I

925
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: think that's it for the for the calls today, open lines, right, Chris,

926
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: I think we're unless we can lest the phones ring,

927
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna we're gonna end it. So

928
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: it's been a good show for everybody. I got we

929
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: got a call, Eric in North Carolina, Eric, North Carolina, Man,

930
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: what's up.

931
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: Hey, Nick? How are you doing today?

932
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you doing? You're gonna be our

933
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: last call to thing?

934
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I always seem to get the last call.

935
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: I just want to talk a little bit about uh

936
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: Will McLay. Like every year he's like highly sought after

937
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 3: and there's always several teams that want to make him GM.

938
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

939
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 3: But it seems and I know, and I've listened to him.

940
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: I know he's a highly intelligent man. He knows, he

941
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 3: knows football, he knows talent. But it seems like, uh,

942
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: not every year, but it seems like we don't listen

943
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: to him. It seems like we listen to the d C,

944
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: you know, or the or the o C, and we

945
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: wind up reaching for for players in the draft and

946
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: we don't get the best the best player. And I

947
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: was just wondering if you have any comments on that, well.

948
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: Hold on before you before you go. I mean, like,

949
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: are you suggesting that are you saying that they don't

950
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: draft that well? I mean I think this team drafts well.

951
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I mean, even this last even with this

952
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: last one, they still draft well. And I think they

953
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: listen to him. I mean, he's he's running the draft

954
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: in there. He gets a lot of praise for some

955
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: of these picks. You know, I'm just not going to

956
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: be one to say Mozzie and Schoolmaker and you know,

957
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: the picks from this year and say they don't draft well,

958
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: because because they do. I mean they in the last

959
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: fourteen years, you know, there's been three years where the

960
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: first round pick hasn't made the Pro Bowl, you know,

961
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: and it with Mazie and it's Taco and it's Clayborne.

962
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: Everybody else makes the Pro Bowl. I mean they get

963
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: I think they do a really good job drafts, and

964
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: I think I think Will mclag gets a lot of

965
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: credit for that. I really do.

966
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know we draft better than most teams. It's

967
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: just that when we miss, you know, like last year's

968
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: draft still stings, and like when we when we miss

969
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: on a top a top one hundred player, it.

970
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: Just yeah, it just buzzed me.

971
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 3: Uh Like I'll just throw out like, uh Gallimore, like

972
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: I just I mean, I know he's a free agent

973
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 3: and I hope we don't re sign him, but like

974
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: every uh, every time the camera's on him, I see

975
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: him getting like ridden out and like wash down the line.

976
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the.

977
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: Same thing with you know, the same thing with Mazie.

978
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: And I know you can, I know you can pick

979
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 3: and choose players like I am excited about about Jalen

980
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: Brooks from last year and Richard's the offensive lineman and overshown.

981
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be good players. Yeah, But you know,

982
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: it's like it's like seems like this draft where we're

983
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: we're still needing the same players as last year. You know,

984
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: like it seemed like we didn't make any progress, you know,

985
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: like on the like on the O line or the

986
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 3: D line.

987
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: And that's fair. I mean, like last year's draft really

988
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: did it? Did it help you? Like you like you

989
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: would think that's that is fair? But you're going to

990
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: have to do that two more times and hopefully we

991
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: don't see that two more times, but that's going to

992
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: have to happen like three years in a row before

993
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: I think, Okay, we got a problem here, because I

994
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: think when you look at them and how they draft

995
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: and how they draft in the middle rounds, you know

996
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: that they I mean, there was a stretch here where

997
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: the franchise tag for four straight years went to a

998
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. You know, fourth round pick is getting

999
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: your franchise tag. Dak got it twice, Schultz got it,

1000
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: Pollard got it. You know. I mean Deron bland Is

1001
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: is an pro bowler, you know, all pro. In the

1002
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: fifth round, you hit some you know, you you have

1003
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: to hit on some of these third, fourth and fifth rounders.

1004
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: And I think for the most part you named a

1005
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: couple that haven't hit, but there are some that have.

1006
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: And and I think, you know, as long as you

1007
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: keep doing that, and you gotta you gotta win on

1008
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: your first round pick. Right now, they're not winning on

1009
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: their first round pick last year from Mazzie Smith. They're

1010
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: not winning. If Zimmer comes in has a different you know,

1011
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: view for him, changes things up, gets him to play

1012
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: at a much higher level, then yeah, I mean, and

1013
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: you could kind of flip it around a little bit.

1014
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well that's great. I appreciate it. Yeah, are

1015
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 3: you looking for I mean, I know, I know this

1016
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 3: isn't the draft show, but I was wondering if you

1017
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 3: have like two or three players like coming out of

1018
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 3: college that you would love to see the Cowboys sick.

1019
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: Maybe Yeah, I'm honestly, I'm really not there at all.

1020
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: I I kind of wait a little a little longer

1021
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: on that, you know. I let the you know, let

1022
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: the stories come out of the combine and pro days

1023
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: and and things like that. It's just not ever been

1024
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: my thing. Uh, There's a lot of fans that are,

1025
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: and we got a lot of people on our staff

1026
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: that just love it, can't get enough of it. I

1027
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: tend to wait a little bit. I would just be

1028
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: throwing names out there just because at twenty now, if

1029
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: they were picking in the top five or ten or whatever,

1030
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: and you kind of get a good vision of how

1031
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 1: things might fall, then I think it's not too early

1032
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: to do that. But for me, at twenty four, I mean,

1033
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: i'd be surprised if the Cowboys are taking it twenty four,

1034
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it wouldn't be surprised if they're

1035
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: doing some shuffling trading things around. So it's always a

1036
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: little bit. It's always a little bit premature for me.

1037
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: So I don't really have names for you there, and

1038
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: I probably won't give you some names until about mid April,

1039
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: maybe right for the draft. It's just not really been

1040
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: my thing. But we good good news is we got

1041
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: two draft shows a week Tuesday and Thursday, the Draft show,

1042
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: and then some of them are gonna be going up

1043
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: to the Combine next week, so we'll start really kind

1044
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: of zeroing in on this. I understand.

1045
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, Nick, Thank you.

1046
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: Thanks Eric, thanks for the call. All right, that'll do

1047
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: it for this show. We'll be back on Thursday. We'll

1048
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: be able to talk a little bit more about you know,

1049
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: free agencies getting closer. Right around the corner is next month.

1050
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: It's about a month away now, so we can talk

1051
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: a little bit about that and any other questions that

1052
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: you have, and you know, stay tuned to the website

1053
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: schedule and we'll announce if there's a press conference. It

1054
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: could be a press converce later in the week with

1055
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: McCarthy and his new DC Mike Zimmer. So all right,

1056
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: so for that for Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman. We

1057
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: will see you on Thursday. On Cowboys Storyline.

1058
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,120
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1059
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,200
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