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Speaker 1: Knicks are up to against the defending NBA champion Boston
Speaker 1: Celtics today I'll give you my picks for Saturday's game
Speaker 1: at Madison Square Garden, so let's get right to it.
Speaker 1: First up, will Jalen Brunton score more or less than
Speaker 1: twenty six and a half points.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with less on this.
Speaker 1: I think it'll take a collective effort from the New
Speaker 1: York Knicks to win this game.
Speaker 2: I think Boston's gonna come in ready.
Speaker 1: I don't see this as one of those games where
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunston is going to explode, maybe more so in
Speaker 1: game four or five than it is in game three.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I suspect somebody else is gonna step up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Jalen Brunson with less than this game.
Speaker 1: Next up, Michel Bridges scores more or less than fourteen
Speaker 1: and a half points, I'm gonna go with more, especially
Speaker 1: if he did it in the fourth quarter. Imagine what
Speaker 1: he's gonna do in the first three at Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 1: Next up, will Jason Tatum score more or less than
Speaker 1: twenty seven and a half points.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with less. He's due for an explosion.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: I just don't suspect it'll be game three so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with less. And why am I going less
Speaker 1: with this? Because finally, Jalen Brown, here's the question, is
Speaker 1: he gonna score more or less than twenty two points?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with more.
Speaker 1: I think the one who's gonna explode in game three
Speaker 1: is going to be Jalen Brown.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at with it.
Speaker 1: So that's less for Jalen Brunson, more for Michel Bridges,
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Speaker 1: me get right into it, because obviously, as you can tell,
Speaker 1: my voice is pretty much shot. My nick fandom got
Speaker 1: the best of me, and as a result could I
Speaker 1: could barely speak Considering a day that I had already
Speaker 1: having to do my day job in the morning, then
Speaker 1: having to do this, and then having to go to
Speaker 1: the studio to do NBA Countdown on ESPN and ABC
Speaker 1: all week and long. I got to conserve my voice
Speaker 1: to the best of my ability. So I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: keep you too long today, but I got a few
Speaker 1: things that I needed to get to because I thought
Speaker 1: they were important. Number one would be the story of
Speaker 1: Draymond Green that's been percolating obviously over the last few hours.
Speaker 1: That's where we're gonna get started with the NBA playoffs
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, where it wasn't a good knife for mister
Speaker 1: Draymond Green and the Golden State Warriors. The Timberwolves beat
Speaker 1: and beat up on the Warriors courtesy one seventeen to
Speaker 1: ninety three last night to even up there Western Conference
Speaker 1: that we final matchup at one game apiece. Obviously, they
Speaker 1: did so because the Golden State Warriors didn't have Steph Curry,
Speaker 1: who suffered that strained hamstring in Game one after scoring
Speaker 1: thirteen points in the first thirteen minutes. Nevertheless, that still
Speaker 1: wasn't the biggest headline last night Minnesota's victory in Game two,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. The biggest headline coming out of the
Speaker 1: game was Draymond Green and how he had picked up
Speaker 1: his fifth technical foul of the playoffs. Draymond was assessed
Speaker 1: a dead ball technical foul in the second quarter after
Speaker 1: he flailed his left arm at nas reed for the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Timberwolves. Okay, Draymond is now two technicals, two technicals
Speaker 1: short of receiving an automatic one game suspension in these playoffs.
Speaker 1: On top of all that, Draymond had a verbal altercation
Speaker 1: with the fan, reportedly who was ultimately ejected for directing
Speaker 1: a racial slur at Draymond words. Green gave a quick
Speaker 1: statement to reporters saying he believes there is an agenda
Speaker 1: against him. Take a listen to what Draymond Green had
Speaker 1: to say here.
Speaker 2: It is look like the angry black man. I'm not
Speaker 2: an angry black man. I'm a very successful, educated black
Speaker 2: man with a great family, and I'm great at basketball.
Speaker 3: I'm great at what I do.
Speaker 2: To put the agenda to try to keep making me
Speaker 2: look like an angry black man is crazy. I'm sick
Speaker 2: of it. It's ridiculous. Okay.
Speaker 1: I thought about what I wanted to say about this
Speaker 1: particular subject, because, to be quite honest with you, it's
Speaker 1: pretty delicate, and I think that there's something that needs
Speaker 1: to be mentioned off the top right here.
Speaker 2: When we're talking about Draymond Green. There's two stories to
Speaker 2: tackle here.
Speaker 1: One is the reported racial epithet thrown in his direction
Speaker 1: while he was on a bicycle during the game. That's
Speaker 1: not the first time this has happened, not the second
Speaker 1: or third or anything like that. I never forget when
Speaker 1: Lebron James was in Atlanta and he had a fan
Speaker 1: removed from the game. Lebron has never done something like
Speaker 1: that to call for a fan to be removed from
Speaker 1: the game. They certainly said some out of pocket stuff
Speaker 1: to him. I remember Russell Westbrook sworen everything he loved
Speaker 1: to a fan that if he said something else, Russe
Speaker 1: was gonna come for him. Russell Westbrook has never done
Speaker 1: something like that. I remember Russell Westbrook was departing from
Speaker 1: a game in Philadelphia and a fan threw popcorn all
Speaker 1: over him when he was a member of the Washington Wizards,
Speaker 1: and he had to be refrained or restrained from going
Speaker 1: after the fan. I remember when I was a beat
Speaker 1: writer for the Philadelphia Inquirer covering the Philadelphia seventies Sixers,
Speaker 1: and it was a big story about a racial epithet
Speaker 1: that was thrown in the direction of Alan Iverson while
Speaker 1: he was in Indiana playing against the Pacers. There were
Speaker 1: folks who tried to deny it. It wasn't gonna fly
Speaker 1: because I was standing right there that one. I was
Speaker 1: an eyewitness account too. I saw and heard what that
Speaker 1: man said to Alan Iverson.
Speaker 2: So when Draymond Green.
Speaker 1: Pointed out what he pointed out, or a fan being removed. Rather,
Speaker 1: I'm glad the fan was removed. I wasn't there. I
Speaker 1: can't contextualize the Sixuary situation. I don't know enough of
Speaker 1: the facts, but I do know that if the team
Speaker 1: in the arena security felt compelled to remove the fan
Speaker 1: and it was verified that something racial had been said
Speaker 1: to Draymond Green, I don't blame him.
Speaker 2: For being pissed off.
Speaker 1: The other thing about the angry black man, I think
Speaker 1: it's an important to point this out. Why I gotta
Speaker 1: be angry black man. I'm not talking about Draymond Green
Speaker 1: saying that. I'm saying white men don't get angry, Latinos
Speaker 1: don't get angry, Asian Americans don't get angry, Jewish folks
Speaker 1: don't get angry.
Speaker 2: Why is it always?
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I religiously stated because
Speaker 1: I remember for years I was considered the angry black man,
Speaker 1: and then people saw me on TV morning they knew
Speaker 1: so I knew how to laugh and have a good
Speaker 1: time and all of this other stuff. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'll use and I say this affectionately because everybody knows
Speaker 1: how much I love them, and everybody knows that we're
Speaker 1: pretty tight. But my man mad Dog Russo, he has
Speaker 1: earned everything that he has, and I'm very, very proud
Speaker 1: of him and mad Dog Russo. Our what are You
Speaker 1: mad About? Segment on First Take every Wednesday morning is
Speaker 1: absolute hilarity. He is hysterical and I love it. But
Speaker 1: do you think I could get away with being mad
Speaker 1: Dog stephen A? You think I could get my own channels?
Speaker 1: Mad Dog stephen A? You think I could have a
Speaker 1: segment that says, what are you mad about?
Speaker 2: It's not Mad.
Speaker 1: Dog's fault, but it's an indication that you know, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: When white folks get riled up, it's passion, and when
Speaker 1: black folks get riled up, it's angry. So, as my
Speaker 1: man Mike Willboud said on NUTS inter National Television this morning,
Speaker 1: he wakes up.
Speaker 2: Most mornings angry. I don't.
Speaker 1: But the reality is that we'd be justified if we
Speaker 1: were with some of the things that we have to experience,
Speaker 1: some of the things we are experiencing at this moment
Speaker 1: in time. And once again, if you are white and
Speaker 1: you are not racist, and you don't engage in racial
Speaker 1: profiling and stereotyping and stigmatizing and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: I am not talking about you, but the experien in
Speaker 1: that you have in America of not this world as
Speaker 1: a black man are pretty unique. And so when Draymond
Speaker 1: spoke about that, there's a level of empathy that should
Speaker 1: be touched on, it should be felt, it should be required.
Speaker 1: But we're not going to go all in on supporting
Speaker 1: what Draymond Green said.
Speaker 2: Without showing that he.
Speaker 1: Has some level of culpability in all of this too.
Speaker 1: You know, Graymond, Draymond Green is a good brother. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we used to speak a hell of a lot more
Speaker 1: in the past than we have in recent memory. Because
Speaker 1: we haven't spoke at all in the last year after
Speaker 1: his suspension, and I reached out to him and told
Speaker 1: him that it was kind of hard to defend. We
Speaker 1: really haven't spoken much sense, and so I'm just doing
Speaker 1: that because I wanted to give full disclosure before I
Speaker 1: echoed what I'm about to say that has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with how I feel about him. I got a
Speaker 1: lot of love for Draymond Green. I think he's a
Speaker 1: genuinely good brother. Off the court, he is something special.
Speaker 1: If he's wrong, he'll fess up to it. If he
Speaker 1: believes he's right, He'll stand on it. He's not trying
Speaker 1: to be disrespectful. He's not trying to hurt anybody. And
Speaker 1: people who know him and have gotten to know him,
Speaker 1: whether it's his philanthropy, whether it's his charitable tendencies, whether
Speaker 1: it's his compassion, whether it's his thoughtfulness or whatever, he's
Speaker 1: a good brother. He is married, he has four children.
Speaker 1: His wife is wonderful. His kids are absolutely his world.
Speaker 1: And when he's affected the way that you saw him
Speaker 1: affected last night, it resonates.
Speaker 2: With me because if you recall last year.
Speaker 1: When he was going through some of the things that
Speaker 1: he was going through and he choked Rudy Gobert, he
Speaker 1: slapped a use of Nurkic and had to go through
Speaker 1: those suspensions that I believe course the Golden State Warriors
Speaker 1: a playoff birth. Most people believe that by the way
Speaker 1: you looked at him and you just said, hey, this
Speaker 1: is not great. He's been through a lot. And what
Speaker 1: do I mean by that? Because those quote unquote sessions,
Speaker 1: those zooming calls that he had to do when he
Speaker 1: initially was suspended indefinitely by the NBA turned into something
Speaker 1: he was willing to do voluntarily even after being reinstated,
Speaker 1: because it was so helpful to be on those calls,
Speaker 1: and it was therapeutic for him, even though it wasn't
Speaker 1: official therapy where you had so many people on the
Speaker 1: call associated with the NBA, with the NBA Players Association,
Speaker 1: his agent, Rich Paul and his agency, and the way
Speaker 1: they looked out for him, and the way he felt
Speaker 1: free to really express himself. With these guys. You give
Speaker 1: credit where credit.
Speaker 2: Is due, but then.
Speaker 1: You see the play with nas Reed, you see the
Speaker 1: altercations in the Houston series, and then you're reminded that
Speaker 1: it's this fifth technical of these playoffs, that he's too
Speaker 1: short of an automatic one game suspension, that over the
Speaker 1: course of his postseason career, he now has thirty seven
Speaker 1: technical fouls since entering the league in twenty twelve twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: which is fifteen more than any other player since that time,
Speaker 1: and that his twenty one twenty one ejections are only
Speaker 1: eclipsed by Rashid Wallace, who had twenty nine in NBA history.
Speaker 2: He's second in NBA history in that category.
Speaker 1: And so when you talk about how you're being depicted
Speaker 1: or whatever, I don't think Draymond is lying. I think
Speaker 1: there's validity to what he's seeing. I just think he
Speaker 1: has to appreciate the fact that he's provided folks to
Speaker 1: feel like they have validity in accusing him of such things.
Speaker 1: If you remember, ladies and gentlemen on this platform and
Speaker 1: on ESPN, I went absolutely ballistic when Kevin Durant, after
Speaker 1: the whole use of nurkic ordeal with Draymond Green, when
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant said I hope he gets the help that
Speaker 1: he needs. I was furious because I said, Yo, that's
Speaker 1: your former teammate. You're a contemporary in the league. You
Speaker 1: know what that kind of statement is going to connotate,
Speaker 1: and it was going to be attached to him. You
Speaker 1: can't say that about him like that because that's given
Speaker 1: the wrong picture and the wrong depiction of a guy
Speaker 1: that you want two championships with, to.
Speaker 2: Have love for you and the whole bit. You can't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Kevin Durant ever did it on purpose.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that you have to be careful with the
Speaker 1: words that come out of your mouth when you say
Speaker 1: something like that. And I didn't think that he was,
Speaker 1: but now we fast forward to last night and Draymond
Speaker 1: Green really really being upset because of how he feels
Speaker 1: he's being portrayed. Well, who's portraying him that way? And
Speaker 1: if so, why are they doing so? And what level
Speaker 1: of capability do you have in all of this. I'm
Speaker 1: not making accusations. I'm asking questions that I think Draymond
Speaker 1: Green has to ask about himself before he's seen on
Speaker 1: video saying that he's sick of being depicted in a
Speaker 1: certain way. When people are able to point to these things,
Speaker 1: and they're able to point to behavior on the court,
Speaker 1: because it's never off the court, because dude is a
Speaker 1: model citizen off the court, but when they're able to
Speaker 1: use on the court, which is the only place most
Speaker 1: people know you from because they don't see you, they
Speaker 1: don't know you, they're not involved in your personal life,
Speaker 1: they don't know you. They don't know what a great,
Speaker 1: great dude he is, like those of us who know
Speaker 1: him a little bit. No, all they can go by
Speaker 1: is what they see on the court. Then Draymond has
Speaker 1: to look at himself. And I say that respectfully because
Speaker 1: according to the reports, Draymond Green said before these playoffs
Speaker 1: or during these playoffs, that he spoke with Steve Kerr,
Speaker 1: he spoke with.
Speaker 2: His family, etc.
Speaker 1: Because he felt that it was a reflection point where
Speaker 1: he needed to look at himself and he thought he
Speaker 1: needed to do better. Well, why would you feel that way,
Speaker 1: because you know what's at stake. Steph Curvey's thirty seven
Speaker 1: years of age and now he has a strained hamstring.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Buckler is no young spring Chicken anymore either, and
Speaker 1: you Draymond Green went on national television during All Star
Speaker 1: Weekend and guaranteed the world that the Golden State Warriors
Speaker 1: we're gonna win the championship. The one thing we know
Speaker 1: for sure is there's no way in hell they're winning
Speaker 1: it without you. But there's also no way in hell
Speaker 1: they're going to win if you're accumulating technical fouls and
Speaker 1: bringing this kind of a wanted detention your way. So
Speaker 1: I'm not here to engage in condemnation. Everything is a
Speaker 1: teachable and learnable moment, and I'm not talking about anything
Speaker 1: off the court about Draymond Green. Great teammate, great friend,
Speaker 1: great family man in the eyes of everybody that I
Speaker 1: know who knows him, and I'm pretty damn fond of him.
Speaker 1: Myself whether we speak or not. But you gotta recognize
Speaker 1: what the situation is. And you got to recognize that
Speaker 1: when you are somebody in your position and you are
Speaker 1: on a public platform, and at times it appears like
Speaker 1: you're engaging in volatility and stuff like that, people are
Speaker 1: gonna label you, and that's just the way it goes.
Speaker 1: I wish he had given more specific context to what
Speaker 1: happened last night. He didn't want to talk to the media,
Speaker 1: and then after that he just issued that statement and
Speaker 1: stormed off. So it would have been nice to be
Speaker 1: able to contextualize it a little bit better because none
Speaker 1: of us know the details about what happened. But when
Speaker 1: you say you're being depicted as an angry black man
Speaker 1: strictly on the court of basketball, which by the way,
Speaker 1: is pretty much the only place most millions of viewers
Speaker 1: ever see you, the numbers and the video shows that
Speaker 1: a lot of times you do look angry. And before
Speaker 1: I go, I'm going to end by echoing something that
Speaker 1: somebody sent me this morning. It's an historian, but I
Speaker 1: don't have permission to use their name, so I'm not
Speaker 1: going to.
Speaker 2: Give it up.
Speaker 1: But they wrote this to me personally about Draymond Green.
Speaker 1: About the Raymond Green incident, they said, quote, there is
Speaker 1: a difference between an angry black man trope and the
Speaker 1: reality of an angry man.
Speaker 2: Who happens to be black.
Speaker 1: Yes, we have every right to be as angry as
Speaker 1: any other man, but we must not exploit the angry
Speaker 1: black man trope to absolve inappropriate or harmful behavior. We
Speaker 1: cannot conflate the two. Let's not forget many of the
Speaker 1: players who are fed up with Draymond happened to be black.
Speaker 1: That last sentence hurt, and it hurt because.
Speaker 2: The players who happen to be black that that.
Speaker 1: Historian, a well known one who's a big NBA fan,
Speaker 1: alluded to in that text. To me, they a lot
Speaker 1: of the players get upset because they're members of the
Speaker 1: opposition and they see Draymond having spent years getting away
Speaker 1: with being in the faces of referees, going off in
Speaker 1: a way that they would never be allowed to so,
Speaker 1: in their eyes, believe it or not, they view Draymond
Speaker 1: as privileged, as somebody who's getting away with something they
Speaker 1: won't ever get away with. Last night in Minnesota was
Speaker 1: a perfect example. After he was issued to technical he
Speaker 1: got in the face of the official Numerous players were
Speaker 1: saying they had ejected my ass. How comp they didn't
Speaker 1: eject him.
Speaker 2: That's where Draymond has to deal with.
Speaker 1: That's the reality, and in the end, being on the court,
Speaker 1: that public platform is where most people see you. So
Speaker 1: if you don't want people seeing you a certain way,
Speaker 1: it's not just about who you are off the court,
Speaker 1: which is a great man and a champion and good people.
Speaker 1: It's also about, or it's primarily about what you are
Speaker 1: on the court, because that's where you're seeing most. That's
Speaker 1: all I have to say about Dremond, at least for
Speaker 1: the time being, until more context is provided. Of course,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping he'll do just that, But then if he doesn't,
Speaker 1: maybe that would be for the best too.
Speaker 2: We shall see. We shall see.
Speaker 1: Got some on court action to get into involved in
Speaker 1: the NBA. But rather than hear from me on that,
Speaker 1: who better to talk to than my man Brian Wintos
Speaker 1: from the ESPN. He's up next right here on the
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith Show, with a.
Speaker 2: Whole lot to say about these NBA playoffs. Don't go away, all.
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Speaker 1: What's going on, man?
Speaker 2: How you doing? How's everything?
Speaker 3: I'm happy to be here, but I find it hilarious
Speaker 3: that you blew out your voice. See, you didn't budget
Speaker 3: when you started your week. You know you didn't budget
Speaker 3: for two maybe one cold open with the Orange and
Speaker 3: Blue sky right. You didn't have it in your range
Speaker 3: to do two cold opens with the Orange and Blue Skies.
Speaker 3: And now you're paying the price. You're lucky it's the weekend.
Speaker 1: I'm paying the price, my man. I definitely am. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. You've been covering this series, you've
Speaker 1: been in Boston. What was it like for you personally
Speaker 1: to be in Boston witnessing what was happening to the
Speaker 1: reigning defending NBA champions at the hands of the New
Speaker 1: York Knicks in Games one and two, specifically the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter and an overtime in Games one and two.
Speaker 3: When you're the better team. Let's just be honest. The
Speaker 3: Celtics are the better team by measure of the regular season.
Speaker 3: At least you usually play with the swagger and when
Speaker 3: you're at home, you usually play with the swagger, and
Speaker 3: when you're the defending champions, you usually play with the swagger.
Speaker 3: And certainly the Celtics, I've seen him do it in
Speaker 3: Game two when the game started this, when the Knicks
Speaker 3: started tightening up the score, the entire building went tight.
Speaker 3: It's not something I've experienced before. And Jalen Brunson was absolutely.
Speaker 3: He comes into the game nine minutes to go and
Speaker 3: he starts going to work three pointer drive, step back
Speaker 3: lay up at like four minutes and forty five seconds.
Speaker 3: I don't remember who hit the shot. It might have
Speaker 3: been Bridges, and all of a sudden, it's five points.
Speaker 3: Where everything goes read it's five points inside five minutes.
Speaker 3: It's clutch time. And I said out loud, these sobs
Speaker 3: did it. They got it to crunch time. They got
Speaker 3: it to clutch time, because that was the thing. It
Speaker 3: was like, you know they're down twenty, they're actually down sixteen,
Speaker 3: because you know in game one they were only only
Speaker 3: they were only down nine starting the fourth quarter. Anybody
Speaker 3: can come back from nine to down. You don't have
Speaker 3: to be special. They started the fourth quarter in Game
Speaker 3: two down twelve in the fourth quarter, so they had
Speaker 3: done a good job. It was twenty they cut it
Speaker 3: and then it went to sixteen. It was actually sixteen.
Speaker 3: That was a different three possessions greater to overcome. And
Speaker 3: so when they even got it to crunch time, I
Speaker 3: was like, damn, they did it again. And then they
Speaker 3: just walked them down and the building was tight, And
Speaker 3: it's just not something you expect with the team with
Speaker 3: what the resume of the Celtics.
Speaker 1: Is Game one and two in your eyes, more about
Speaker 1: what the Knicks are in terms of their clutch knowing
Speaker 1: that a guy like Jalen Brunson and clutch time has
Speaker 1: outscored the entire Celtics team by fourteen to twelve. Or
Speaker 1: is it about a diminished product that we're seeing in
Speaker 1: the reigning defending NBA champions that is the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 1: I know what Tatum brings, I know where Brown brings.
Speaker 1: They're both three hundred million dollar plus plays. You got
Speaker 1: new ownership in Boston, They're gonna have to make decisions
Speaker 1: about the future. You've articulated all of those things very
Speaker 1: clearly over the last few days or so. But are
Speaker 1: we seeing a diminished Boston Celtics or just the team
Speaker 1: suffering the hiccup that's expected to get it together this weekend.
Speaker 3: Very savvy question. I think the answer is both. I
Speaker 3: think you see a Knicks team that is extremely confident
Speaker 3: when they get into the end of a close game.
Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson, he he is so calm when he's under pressure.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, Like he gets into tough situations when he's
Speaker 3: got a live dribble and you're like, how's he getting
Speaker 3: out of this one? And he does. You know, they
Speaker 3: put a six to nine guy on him and you're like,
Speaker 3: how's he getting out of this one? He gets open,
Speaker 3: he is, he's got He is at the top of
Speaker 3: his game, at the top of his confidence level, and
Speaker 3: it's a master at work. So that's absolutely happening. But
Speaker 3: also the Celtics are diminished. One, I think their confidence
Speaker 3: is shaken. I think you see in some of the
Speaker 3: decisions that Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown make at the
Speaker 3: end of these games. And two, they don't have Porzingis.
Speaker 3: Porzingis isn't right, and that's probably the most unpredictable thing
Speaker 3: in this series. What's gonna happen with Porzingis? Because Porzingis,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say he was their curve ball because he
Speaker 3: can hit you at the right hook. I would say
Speaker 3: he was like their slider, and especially if you were
Speaker 3: having difficulty, you know, scoring from the perimeter. You know, yeah,
Speaker 3: he's he's a deadly outside shooter, but you know you
Speaker 3: can throw it to him in the post and he
Speaker 3: can seven foot three, he can turn around and cause bubbles.
Speaker 1: Let me stop you right there with Porzingis, because I
Speaker 1: heard you on the air talk in the other day
Speaker 1: when you on air with me you want air would
Speaker 1: get up on ESPN talking about how you spoke to Porzingis.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know what's going on, but he's just flat
Speaker 1: line fatigue is kicked in and I'm just looking at
Speaker 1: numbers here. In two regular season games against the knixt
Speaker 1: the season, he's averaged twenty four and a half points
Speaker 1: on fifty percent shooting from the field forty five percent
Speaker 1: shooting from three point range. In his playoff series against
Speaker 1: the Knicks, he's got a total of eight points on
Speaker 1: three or nine shooting, one for one on a three
Speaker 1: point a one free throw attempt, no blocks, eight rebounds
Speaker 1: in twenty seven minutes total. He clearly has been a
Speaker 1: virtual no show because he just hasn't been on the
Speaker 1: court for the Boston Celtics. Do we know specifically what
Speaker 1: is wrong with porzingis We don't.
Speaker 3: He was he got sick in February. He tried to
Speaker 3: fight through it for a while, then they ended up
Speaker 3: shutting him down and they started, you know, calling him questionable,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, he's out three weeks. Eight
Speaker 3: games he missed, and when he came back, he said
Speaker 3: they couldn't diagnose it and they were having a he
Speaker 3: was having a real hard time with fatigue. I think
Speaker 3: actually they said it was like a upper respiratory And
Speaker 3: so you're thinking, you're seeing a guy who's coughing, you know,
Speaker 3: running nose, et cetera. That's he doesn't He doesn't come
Speaker 3: off sick. He may have wind issues, there may be
Speaker 3: a lung thing. For sure. I'm not saying that's not true.
Speaker 3: He doesn't look like a guy who's got the flu.
Speaker 3: But what he's having a big problem with, from what
Speaker 3: he says, is fatigue. He crashes and I think he
Speaker 3: had been in it. By the way, when he came
Speaker 3: back from that time away, his first five games, he
Speaker 3: was really good, like it looked like okay, he's pasted it.
Speaker 3: You're you're talking about stats in this series. He was
Speaker 3: terrible against Orlando. Terrible is not a fair word. He was.
Speaker 3: He was not productive against Orlando, certainly not to his
Speaker 3: to his normal level, and in Game one he was
Speaker 3: fighting it. It really came back in Game one of
Speaker 3: this series and the halftime he just he didn't have energy,
Speaker 3: and so they brought him off the bench. In Game two,
Speaker 3: Stephen a uh and and the reason off the benches
Speaker 3: because I think they're trying to save his energy. So
Speaker 3: what I think they're hoping is he gets two days
Speaker 3: to rest before Game three and he can recover. But
Speaker 3: he has had He referred to it as a big crash,
Speaker 3: that he was managing it and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: it won big crash. That's obviously concerning.
Speaker 1: I need two quick answers to this, to these two questions.
Speaker 1: If the Boston Celtics lose this series, what will it
Speaker 1: mean for this franchise.
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I don't know what the new
Speaker 3: owner's appetite for spending is. I know that this is
Speaker 3: a team that's proven to be a championship team that
Speaker 3: if they hold it together, I would say they would
Speaker 3: come out next year and be a top three team
Speaker 3: to win it again. It's also going to cost five
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars. And here's the thing, it'd be one
Speaker 3: thing if you own the Boston The guys who've bought
Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics have owned it since two thousand and one,
Speaker 3: two thousand and two, they paid a couple hundred million
Speaker 3: dollars for it. If it's not paid off, I'm sure
Speaker 3: it probably is very close to paid off. They at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you know, they're not paying
Speaker 3: a massive mortgage on the team. So if you have
Speaker 3: to pay five hundred million, then you lose a couple
Speaker 3: hundred million. That's one thing. You're dealing with a couple
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars loss. Now, if you're buying the team
Speaker 3: for six billion, they're actually buying fifty percent of the
Speaker 3: team for about three billion. You have to write a
Speaker 3: three billion dollar check. However you're getting that money. This
Speaker 3: is not Steve Ballmer buying the team. Steve Ballmer when
Speaker 3: he bought the Clippers literally said here's a cashier's check
Speaker 3: for two billion dollars. He didn't borrow money. He's like,
Speaker 3: here you go. That's not the case here. These guys
Speaker 3: are leveraging to get this, which is not I'm not
Speaker 3: I mean, six billion dollars is a ton of money.
Speaker 3: So now you're going to have a mortgage payment. So
Speaker 3: imagine you're in a house and you know, and you
Speaker 3: own the house outright, no mortgage payment. Now you've now
Speaker 3: bought the house. You bought a new house that's thirty
Speaker 3: times the price. You got a big mortgage payment due
Speaker 3: every month. Now if I tell you that the house
Speaker 3: costs a bunch of money to operate and everything like that,
Speaker 3: now you're making two payments. You're paying for the operation
Speaker 3: of the house and you're paying the mortgage payment. That's
Speaker 3: what's coming for the Celtics owners. I don't know what
Speaker 3: they're gonna do. They have not because the deal isn't closed.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna say so.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know this five hundred million
Speaker 3: dollars is a lot of money. That's not just like
Speaker 3: an inconvenience that you get. You're gonna have to pay
Speaker 3: for a payroll.
Speaker 2: The Knicks win this series, how far can they go?
Speaker 3: Steven A If the Pacers get get two more wins
Speaker 3: over the Cavs and the Knicks get home court. I
Speaker 3: realize they've been better on the road than home. The
Speaker 3: Knicks get home court against the Pacers. Hey man, they
Speaker 3: went to seven games against the Pacers last year when
Speaker 3: Ogieobi was out and Jalen you know, got hurt. That's
Speaker 3: a that's a I think the Knicks will be favored
Speaker 3: in that series, depending on everybody's health. I mean, it
Speaker 3: would be tight. The Pacers have been really good. Maybe
Speaker 3: it's a toss up, but considering that the Knicks were
Speaker 3: the Knicks in my view, had the toughest draw in
Speaker 3: the league because they were looking at for them to win,
Speaker 3: they were looking at Detroit. Got to be Boston without
Speaker 3: well Detroit for sure, Detroit in Boston, Boston without home court.
Speaker 3: Then you're thinking Cleveland without home court. Then they'd be
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City without home court. Talk about a gauntlet. If
Speaker 3: they get into a series against the Pacers where it's
Speaker 3: a toss up series that they have home court in
Speaker 3: or they're playing well, it's one of the greatest turnarounds
Speaker 3: in situations that you could ever see in an NBA
Speaker 3: playoff setting.
Speaker 1: What about the Indiana Paces Real quick for a second,
Speaker 1: how surprised are you that they've looked this good.
Speaker 2: I know there's been injuries.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hunter, Evan Mobley, Darius Gland didn't play in game two.
Speaker 1: They got a pivotal Game three coming up tonight, no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. They got to win this game. But
Speaker 1: still in all, we can't take away from what we've
Speaker 1: seen from the Indiana Paces who closed out you know,
Speaker 1: you know, Milwaukee, and not only did you do that,
Speaker 1: but we saw Tyrese Halliburn actually speak up against his
Speaker 1: own father because of how father acted in Giannis's face.
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about that, and now here they are Halliburton,
Speaker 1: who was voted quietly privately by no name players who
Speaker 1: wouldn't attach their name to it as being overrated. He's
Speaker 1: balling out to me they have no one great, but
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of dudes that are really, really good
Speaker 1: and they can beat anybody at this point, real quickly.
Speaker 1: That's my synopsis of the Indiana Paces.
Speaker 2: What's yours?
Speaker 3: If they have somebody grade, it's their coach. It's a
Speaker 3: great coach, and he's a great player coach at Carlisle,
Speaker 3: yes he is. They lost on New Year's Eve to
Speaker 3: go to sixteen and eighteen Halliburton was hurting early. They
Speaker 3: had some other injuries since January first. They finished the
Speaker 3: season thirty four and fourteen. That was not a four seed.
Speaker 3: That was a two seed masquerading as a four seed.
Speaker 3: That was a fifty eight win pace that they played
Speaker 3: on that from January first. They have depth, they have speed,
Speaker 3: they have a style of play, and they have a
Speaker 3: closer and they have proven that they can pull it
Speaker 3: out their They have twice been down seven points in
Speaker 3: the last minute of the game and one in the playoffs,
Speaker 3: So maybe it's a little bit fortune there, but they
Speaker 3: are a formidable, formidable team.
Speaker 1: Moving out to the West. How nervous were you about
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City? You've been raving about them all year when
Speaker 1: they lost Game one, when Jokic did what he did,
Speaker 1: When we see Russell Westbrook playing the way that he played,
Speaker 1: when we saw Aaron Gordon playing bully ball. How nervous
Speaker 1: were you for your thunder before they annihilated the Nuggets
Speaker 1: in game two.
Speaker 3: There were two things about that first game that we'll
Speaker 3: worry So. Number one, they couldn't get any supporting scoring
Speaker 3: for Shay Gildess. Alexander by the way, he had a
Speaker 3: great game too. Shay has not had a good postseason
Speaker 3: so far. This is a guy who's going to be
Speaker 3: named MVP probably next week. His numbers are okay, but
Speaker 3: they weren't great. That's what that's that's one thing. Secondly,
Speaker 3: so then and they don't have a second score that's reliable.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they have a second score, but they don't have
Speaker 3: a guy out there that they can count on to deliver,
Speaker 3: and that's what cost him in Game one. The second
Speaker 3: thing was chet Holmgren got totally dominated by Jokic. And
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Homegroun can't play Yokic the same way.
Speaker 3: I it'st the Zubach plays them. They're not built the
Speaker 3: same way. But three times in the last couple of years,
Speaker 3: the Thunder have been in high leverage situations and come
Speaker 3: up small. One was in the playoffs last year to
Speaker 3: the Mavericks. They had home court in that series, the
Speaker 3: series was tied, they melted down the trust of that
Speaker 3: series to their offense, completely abandoned them and Luca snatched them.
Speaker 3: And then this year in the n season tournament where
Speaker 3: they played Milwaukee, where they just absolutely laid an egg.
Speaker 3: That was a moment for them to win something as
Speaker 3: a group. They totally laid an egg then in Game one,
Speaker 3: losing home court advantage out of the gate. So I've
Speaker 3: seen them under pressure all of a sudden, not be
Speaker 3: able to score when it matters, and they have the
Speaker 3: MVP that shouldn't be the case. So that was more pressure.
Speaker 3: Moments are coming and I expect them to overcome that
Speaker 3: because they are They have every tool that you need.
Speaker 3: But there is that sense of mystery about how it's
Speaker 3: gonna happen. What's gonna happen when when that challenge occurs again.
Speaker 1: Switching over to Warriors Timberwolves, obviously we're looking at them.
Speaker 1: Steph Curry's going to be out with the strained hamstring.
Speaker 1: The likelihood is that for at least games three and four,
Speaker 1: and possibly Game five.
Speaker 2: What do you peel away?
Speaker 1: You saw the Warriors win in Game one. You saw
Speaker 1: Steph Curry score thirteen points in the first thirteen minutes
Speaker 1: before he goes down. We saw Draymond Green hit four
Speaker 1: three pointers in the first half. We saw Jimmy Butler
Speaker 1: come on strong in the second half. We saw none
Speaker 1: of that in Game two, after Finch held Anthony Edwards accountable,
Speaker 1: we saw McDaniel's show up. We saw Julius Randalls show up,
Speaker 1: we saw ant Man show up.
Speaker 2: And the three have.
Speaker 1: Combined to hold Jimmy Butler that like thirteen percent shooting
Speaker 1: from the field to win. One of those three are
Speaker 1: guarding him. So what do you make of this series
Speaker 1: thus far at this particular.
Speaker 3: Moment, There's two things that have got to happen. One,
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler has got to be more of an offensive engine.
Speaker 3: They can't score without Steph. Other offensive efficiency plummets by
Speaker 3: like twenty five ish percent when he hasn't been out there.
Speaker 3: They just can't survive that. I understand they're not going
Speaker 3: to totally replace him. That's clear. Jimmy's got to be
Speaker 3: more of a factor offensively scoring the ball. The second
Speaker 3: thing is this team after the Jimmy Butler trade was
Speaker 3: a good defensive team. They're in defensive numbers improved. And
Speaker 3: in Game one they won that game because not because
Speaker 3: of what they did without stuff, because they only gave
Speaker 3: up eighty eight points. Now, some of that was the Wolves.
Speaker 3: They didn't handle their business that well and that's why
Speaker 3: Chris Finch got on them. But in Game two, the
Speaker 3: Wolves made sixteen three pointers, and ESPN's tracking said that
Speaker 3: every single one of them were deemed open. There's no
Speaker 3: other game in the database in the playoff history where
Speaker 3: a team has gotten sixteen all sixteen three pointers. Your
Speaker 3: sixteen or more three pointers were open. They've got to
Speaker 3: play better defense. The only way to do this is
Speaker 3: to pinch it from both ends. You've got to play
Speaker 3: your max level defense and you've got to get some
Speaker 3: more scoring. That's how you close the gap in this situation.
Speaker 3: They don't have to do it three more times. They're
Speaker 3: not winning this series without stuff anyway. They need to
Speaker 3: do it one more time, at least at home, probably
Speaker 3: in Game three or four, to give the window for
Speaker 3: Steph to come back in Game five or six and
Speaker 3: give them a fighting chance and what's hopefully a three
Speaker 3: game series.
Speaker 1: Switching to Draymond Green, obviously he made news for a
Speaker 1: different reason, and I appreciate your participation in the discussion
Speaker 1: with myself and Mike Willbond on ESPN's first Take earlier
Speaker 1: this morning. And I'm certainly not asking you to elaborate
Speaker 1: on his comments about being portrayed as an angry black man.
Speaker 1: I took care of that in the first segment at
Speaker 1: the top of this show. But what I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you is is that in terms of Draymond Green's image,
Speaker 1: in your estimation as somebody who covers this league and
Speaker 1: as somebody who walks the streets with people coming up
Speaker 1: to you about what you know about this league, what
Speaker 1: would you qualify or classify as the perception that Draymond
Speaker 1: Green has And how fear or unfeared do you think
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: I think people in the league feel like he's one
Speaker 3: of the great defensive players in the last twenty five years,
Speaker 3: one of the great influence influencers of the game, where
Speaker 3: he can control the game, especially for a guy who
Speaker 3: is not a scorer. His ability to control the game
Speaker 3: without being a scorer or have a big influence on
Speaker 3: the control of the game because of his screen setting,
Speaker 3: because of the way he can defend, because of the
Speaker 3: way he can take the you know, take the ball
Speaker 3: off the glass, go down and be the point center.
Speaker 3: The way he can play two man basketball with Steph
Speaker 3: where they're just basically reading each other. They're impossible to
Speaker 3: prepare for because when the two of them are working together,
Speaker 3: it's just read and react, read and react. And he's
Speaker 3: just such He's so quick on his feet and so
Speaker 3: smart and makes him so savvy, and people in the
Speaker 3: league think that he savely controlled the officials, that he's
Speaker 3: sly like a fox in the way he does things
Speaker 3: and the way he applies pressure to the officials and
Speaker 3: the way he you know, is so demonstrative and and
Speaker 3: they feel like there are many times when he can
Speaker 3: manipulate the officials to sort of lean them in one
Speaker 3: way or the other because of the way he behaves
Speaker 3: that there is that, Yes, there are times when he
Speaker 3: loses control, but a lot of it is totally calculated,
Speaker 3: that what he is doing is putting the officials into
Speaker 3: a corner to achieve a certain edge. There is an
Speaker 3: admiration for him within the league for them, however, he
Speaker 3: also loses control. For as savvy and nuanced of the
Speaker 3: game that he plays, there are times when that all
Speaker 3: goes up the window he loses control, which has happened
Speaker 3: unfortunately a number of times. This is a guy who
Speaker 3: I think there's no chance the Warriors win the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two title without him. He was absolutely brilliant during
Speaker 3: that season and in that playoff run. I know he
Speaker 3: had a complicated fire work. I think he got benched
Speaker 3: at one point, but he was brilliant in closeout game.
Speaker 3: No way they went without no way they went without them.
Speaker 3: So the twenty twenty sixth title, Draymond's got both hands
Speaker 3: on that ring, and he he derailed the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: three season by sucker punching his teammate, and he damaged
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four season by the suspensions that that
Speaker 3: fourth then ended up significantly forcing the Warriors into the
Speaker 3: play in And obviously his role in the other in
Speaker 3: the previous three titles is unquestioned. But just in the
Speaker 3: last three seasons, he's hairy, not carried, but like good
Speaker 3: shoulder to shoulder with Steph to win the title and
Speaker 3: undercut two seasons, and this year he's working hard. We're
Speaker 3: going to find out which way it's going to go.
Speaker 3: And you know, the Warrior's eyes are wide open. They
Speaker 3: totally understand what it means to be in business with
Speaker 3: Raymond Green. They've they've dedicated themselves and protected them and
Speaker 3: rededicated themselves over and over. But that is the dynam
Speaker 3: player that you're getting, a guy who is a genius
Speaker 3: and brilliant who also can do things that can hurt
Speaker 3: you badly, but he can't take back.
Speaker 1: What about what he said coming into this series if
Speaker 1: not the playoffs overall way, he said, he sat down
Speaker 1: and spoke with Steve Kerr, he spoke to his family,
Speaker 1: and he had to do some reflection, looking at himself
Speaker 1: and thinking about what he needed to do better. Where
Speaker 1: did that come from? If we're sitting here today and
Speaker 1: he's going off about how he's being portrayed.
Speaker 3: We've heard it all before, you know. He did a
Speaker 3: story with an ESPN Our Warriors reporter Omeong masuk Or.
Speaker 3: He detailed after he was suspended indefinitely for the Rudy
Speaker 3: Gobert incident last year, they made him go to like
Speaker 3: essentially counseling sessions, but it wasn't just with a counselor.
Speaker 3: It was with a whole bunch of different people who
Speaker 3: basically acted as a village for him. And he didn't
Speaker 3: want to do it and he was annoyed by it,
Speaker 3: and he discussed how it really helped him and how
Speaker 3: he started to lean on it. And it was a
Speaker 3: beautifully done story giving insight into Draymond's thinking and how
Speaker 3: he's trying to better himself. And you come away from
Speaker 3: that story saying this is a very earnest raw and
Speaker 3: impersonal view of how he's fighting his challenges. And then
Speaker 3: he goes out there and commits five technicals and two
Speaker 3: flagrants in nine games. And so you can see why
Speaker 3: the people closest to Draymond have complicated relationships with the situation.
Speaker 3: They treasure him, they love him, they protect him, and
Speaker 3: he absolutely drives them crazy. And he he and he
Speaker 3: absolutely leads them to victory. He's one of the more
Speaker 3: complicated great players of this generation.
Speaker 1: Before we go, if I tell you, I'm going to
Speaker 1: give you this series and you tell me what you
Speaker 1: believe it will.
Speaker 2: Be after four games Cleveland, Indiana.
Speaker 3: Three one Indiana Nicks Boston two two, I'm gonna duck.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna duck. I'm two blocks in the garden. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna duck. The is going to be so angry.
Speaker 1: You're telling me you believe that the Boston Celtics are
Speaker 1: walking into Madison Square Garden and they're gonna win. They're
Speaker 1: gonna take both games of Madison Square Garden away from
Speaker 1: the New York Knicks.
Speaker 2: Is that what you just said? Is that what you
Speaker 2: just said, Brian went.
Speaker 3: I don't believe it, but I think that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I don't believe it because I do believe in the
Speaker 3: Knicks ability. Every way I know to evaluate the game
Speaker 3: is saying to me that the Celtics should be winning
Speaker 3: these games, but they're not. So I look at it
Speaker 3: and say, the Celtics can very easily be up to
Speaker 3: Loh and my my analysis side of my brain says
Speaker 3: the Celtics will win the next two knowing everything that
Speaker 3: I know, but I have to admit I can't quite
Speaker 3: identify why the Knicks one games one and two. So
Speaker 3: the analysis side of everything is being defeated. And that's
Speaker 3: what is happening for the whole Celtics organization right now,
Speaker 3: that their analytical analysis philosophy is being defeated by the Knicks. Confidence.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, see Denver three one.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I think there'll be two two going back
Speaker 3: to Okay, see.
Speaker 2: He's gonna go They're gonna split in Denver.
Speaker 3: I know I Game three is gonna tell me everything.
Speaker 3: You know Oklahoma City could win by twenty five and
Speaker 3: you're like, okay, this is a five game series. But
Speaker 3: I think Denver has to press very hard in game three,
Speaker 3: and if if Denver pulls that out, then I think
Speaker 3: you're looking at too too. That the Oklahoma City losing
Speaker 3: Game one at home opened the door for that to
Speaker 3: be a long series, assuming that they can get one
Speaker 3: more home.
Speaker 2: Minnesota, Golden State.
Speaker 3: Sorry to say, but I got three to one Minnesota.
Speaker 3: I was so just I was so hardened by their
Speaker 3: effort in game two. They are going home. They could
Speaker 3: get a hot shooting game. I mean, that's the thing
Speaker 3: about the Knicks. The Knicks haven't shot the ball well yet.
Speaker 3: You know, the Knicks can undo any analysis by just
Speaker 3: getting hot. You can get hot at home. But I'm
Speaker 3: leaning more towards Minnesota. Three. Minnesota is twenty two and
Speaker 3: five in his last twenty seven games. They are playing
Speaker 3: really well, just like Indiana is playing really well.
Speaker 1: Brian Wentross, appreciate you man. Keep up the great work.
Speaker 1: We'll talk next week, all.
Speaker 3: Right, thanks for having me. Have a great weekend.
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump taps another Fox News host, Janeine Piro as
Speaker 1: interim US Attorney for Washington, DC, and Joe Biden, a
Speaker 1: former president, is talking and says he would have beaten
Speaker 1: Donald Trump last November. Really, I tried to be nice, y'all.
Speaker 1: I really tried to be nice. But I got some
Speaker 1: things that need to be said. So I'm gonna say
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump says he will appoint He will appoint Fox
Speaker 1: News host and former prosecutor Janeine Pirou as interim US
Speaker 1: Attorney for the District of Columbia. He made the announcement
Speaker 1: on his Truth social platform, and here's what it read
Speaker 1: in part quote, I am pleased to announce that Judge
Speaker 1: Janine Piro will be appointed Interim United States Attorney for
Speaker 1: the District of Columbia. Janine was assistant District Attorney for
Speaker 1: Westchester County, New York, and then went on to serve
Speaker 1: as county judge and district attorney, where she was the
Speaker 1: first woman ever to be elected to those positions. Janine
Speaker 1: is incredibly well qualified for this position and is considered
Speaker 1: one of the top district attorneys in theory of the
Speaker 1: state of New York. She is in a class by herself. Congratulations,
Speaker 1: Jeanine end quote. Piro has been a long time ally
Speaker 1: of Trump, dating back to her time.
Speaker 2: As a prosecutor in New York.
Speaker 1: She was also an early support of his twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: campaign and publicly defended him during the Access Hollywood tape scandal.
Speaker 1: Just so you know, ladies and gentlemen, for those of
Speaker 1: you expected me to have a problem with it, I
Speaker 1: might have a little problem with it, but not for
Speaker 1: the reasons you think. Jeanine Piro appears to be qualified.
Speaker 1: I've read her resume. He put that out there for you.
Speaker 1: She is a former prosecutor. There's nothing to dispute there. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this.
Speaker 2: Is not about her qualifications. Here's my issue.
Speaker 1: I'm getting to a point, and I think we all
Speaker 1: should be alarmed. And if I was talking to the
Speaker 1: President for a linthy interview, which I would love to have.
Speaker 1: By the way, fealty to him, loyalty and devotion to
Speaker 1: him seems to be the criteria for these jobs, as
Speaker 1: opposed to one's qualifications and one's pursuit of that job. Now,
Speaker 1: Janee Piro's on The Five. The Five is a very
Speaker 1: successful show. I watch it often. I'm actually a fan
Speaker 1: of Harold Ford Jr. Let me state that for the record,
Speaker 1: and much to the sagrin of a lot of you,
Speaker 1: I actually like Jesse Waters. I think he does a
Speaker 1: great job. I didn't like when he vied with DeSantis
Speaker 1: on black history issues, particularly pertaining to slavery. That really
Speaker 1: pissed me off about Jesse Waters. But that's about it.
Speaker 1: In terms of him pursuing facts and covering politics the
Speaker 1: way that he does, I have no problem with him, Okay,
Speaker 1: and the rest of them on the Five. I think
Speaker 1: it's a good show. But when I think about Janine Piro,
Speaker 1: you see, when something like this happens, I am I
Speaker 1: in a position where I get to question your objectivity. Now,
Speaker 1: in fairness to her, she's been a longtime supporter of
Speaker 1: Trump and she hasn't waivered one bit. I guess in
Speaker 1: my own way, I wish more people were like Harrold
Speaker 1: Ford Jr. Because even though he's clearly a Democrat who
Speaker 1: supports the Democratic Party in the same breath, he doesn't
Speaker 1: hesitate to point out some of the things that they
Speaker 1: do wrong. Now, I don't get to watch every show,
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to castigate her in any way.
Speaker 1: I'm simply making the point that Trump leaning towards five.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're leaning towards Fox News, except I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep bringing up that name. I understand he served our
Speaker 1: country honorably as a soldier, but to go from being
Speaker 1: a weekend host on Fox News to being the Secretary
Speaker 1: of Defense for the United States of America, overseeing three
Speaker 1: and a half million people, seems insane non fairness to him.
Speaker 1: The Megan Kelly's of the world have been on this
Speaker 1: show defending that. I've spoken to Mark Levin, I've spoken
Speaker 1: to Sean Hannity, I've spoken to Will Kane, people like that.
Speaker 2: They all supported all right.
Speaker 1: Fine, I'm just saying it is a bit alarming because
Speaker 1: it seems at times like the primary prerequisite for a
Speaker 1: job and the Trump administration is to love on Trump.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he should hire somebody that hates on him.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he should hire someone who would be disloyal.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he should hire somebody that can't stand him.
Speaker 2: But damn the people that he's picking are folks that.
Speaker 1: Would say and do anything it appears for him, And
Speaker 1: I don't know how wise that part is. But I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna sit here and tell you she's not qualified
Speaker 1: for the position. I'm not gonna sit here and tell
Speaker 1: you that, because she is a former prosecutor who has
Speaker 1: knowledge of the law, and when people that I spoke to,
Speaker 1: she had a damn good reputation as a prosecutor. Whether
Speaker 1: they were telling the truth or not, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what they told me, so I
Speaker 1: can't say but so more, but so much more than that,
Speaker 1: it pales in comparison to what I really really want
Speaker 1: to get to. And that's former President Biden, who appeared
Speaker 1: on The View yesterday and took responsibility for President Trump's.
Speaker 2: The story return to the White House.
Speaker 1: Biden maintains he would have been Trump had he stayed
Speaker 1: in the race, and pushed back on claims of any
Speaker 1: cognitive decline in his final year in office. Here's a
Speaker 1: portion of what President Biden's comments from the show yesterday
Speaker 1: about Vice President Kamala Harris and huff failed presidential run.
Speaker 1: Here's what he said, quote, I wasn't surprised, He says
Speaker 1: he wasn't surprised by her failed presidential run, not because
Speaker 1: I didn't think the vice president was qualified to be president.
Speaker 4: She is.
Speaker 1: She's qualified to be president of the United States of America.
Speaker 1: I was surprised because they went.
Speaker 2: The sexist route, the whole route.
Speaker 1: This is a woman, she's this, she's that. Really, I've
Speaker 1: never seen a successful and consistent of a campaign undercutting
Speaker 1: the notion that a woman couldn't lead the country, and
Speaker 1: a woman of mixed.
Speaker 2: Race and quote BS, that's straight. BS.
Speaker 1: See, I'm not gonna let y'all get away with that.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you get away with that. They said,
Speaker 1: we were hearing the same thing about Hillary in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: Hillary won the popular vote over the three billion votes.
Speaker 1: She didn't win an electoral college vote. Why was that?
Speaker 1: James Comee comes out with some report about deleting emails
Speaker 1: thirty three thousand plus a couple of weeks or so
Speaker 1: before the election. What misogyny got to do with that?
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris goes on a view, knowing that you had
Speaker 1: open borders, knowing the crisis that caused in this country,
Speaker 1: knowing that there was an economy that was compromised by inflation,
Speaker 1: knowing there was crimes in the streets, knowing there was
Speaker 1: those kind of things going on, and she went on
Speaker 1: the view when they asked if there's anything that she
Speaker 1: would do differently that you were doing in your administration,
Speaker 1: President Biden, she said, I really can't think of anything.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that's where she sealed her fate. Everybody knows that.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't even come close to equating the damage
Speaker 1: you did, sir, You and the former first Lady, Jill Biden,
Speaker 1: both of you now, Jill Bodden, I'm not gonna blame
Speaker 1: with so much because that's her husband and she was
Speaker 1: standing by her husband. So when he went on the
Speaker 1: stage June twenty seventh for debate and completely looked inept
Speaker 1: off or out of sink and everything in between, it
Speaker 1: was you that walked out on that stage minutes later
Speaker 1: and said you want to thank him and applaud him
Speaker 1: for doing an outstanding job. You answered every question, You
Speaker 1: did this, you did that, and then you go on
Speaker 1: the view and admit it.
Speaker 2: Was a flat out lie. It was a flat out lie,
Speaker 2: and that you knew you were lying. You went on
Speaker 2: the view and you said he was awful.
Speaker 1: It was bad, But that ain't what you told the
Speaker 1: voters out there. And now you're hiding behind the notion
Speaker 1: that you weren't gonna let one moment, one bad moment
Speaker 1: ruin a presidency. Well it was one bad moment. Actually
Speaker 1: it was many because we saw him. There were times
Speaker 1: we saw him and he had no business being seen.
Speaker 2: Remember when.
Speaker 1: Former President Barack Obama had to guide him off a
Speaker 1: stage where he didn't know where he was going. Remember
Speaker 1: when he was at the World Summit in g seven,
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, and everybody was standing together, but
Speaker 1: he was fading away and drifting away, and they had
Speaker 1: to guide him back to the line.
Speaker 2: Remember that.
Speaker 1: Remember the times that he was mumbling incoherently. There was
Speaker 1: an analyst that came on Chris Cuomo's show. I think
Speaker 1: it was scar of Muci if I remember correctly, but
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Anthony Scaramucci, and he came on Chris
Speaker 1: Cuomo's show on News Nation and he said the night
Speaker 1: of June twenty seventh, when Joe Biden debated Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: he said that he looked like an elderly person in
Speaker 1: a nursing home waiting to be fed.
Speaker 2: Apple sauce, and as sad as that.
Speaker 1: Vivid kind of picture depicting the president at the time was.
Speaker 1: No one refuted it, no one, which brings me to
Speaker 1: the other point. You see, none of that is a
Speaker 1: big deal, sir, if you're over eighty years of age,
Speaker 1: which is no shame in it. And you served this
Speaker 1: country the way that you served in the Senate for decades,
Speaker 1: in the presidency for the three previous years. But in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty when you were elected, before you took office
Speaker 1: in January twenty twenty one, you swore to the American
Speaker 1: public that you were there to be a transitional president.
Speaker 1: You were coming for one term. You just wanted to
Speaker 1: get America's house back in order and get us removed
Speaker 1: from the chaos that had ravaged us for years in
Speaker 1: the streets of America. And you were supposed to be transitional.
Speaker 1: You got there, the Dems fought off a red wave,
Speaker 1: nullified it.
Speaker 2: Actually it wasn't what the Republicans thought it was going
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: The Democrats won the midterms, and you were feeling yourself
Speaker 1: and you didn't want to surrender power, so you went
Speaker 1: back on your word as a transitional president. Your wife
Speaker 1: did everything she could to cover for you.
Speaker 2: Knowing that there was slippage.
Speaker 1: And now we're walking around and what are we hearing
Speaker 1: right now, President Joe Biden. We're hearing that at eighty
Speaker 1: two years of age, okay, which is what you are
Speaker 1: about to be, you're talking about writing a book, and
Speaker 1: the book is going to be out about a year,
Speaker 1: and that's about right around the time that the midterms
Speaker 1: are coming out, that the midterms.
Speaker 2: Will take place. The possible that what you're doing, is.
Speaker 1: What you're saying, is I'm gonna come out with a
Speaker 1: tell all book and I'm gonna dime everybody out, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call out the Democratic Party so you can
Speaker 1: somehow get in the way or whatever success they're hoping
Speaker 1: to reap in the twenty twenty six min terms. Is
Speaker 1: that what you're doing, sir? Sure sounds like it. See,
Speaker 1: this is the sickening part of politics. This is what
Speaker 1: they mean when they talk about people eating their own.
Speaker 2: Because you ain't giving a damn.
Speaker 1: You didn't want to leave office after promising you would
Speaker 1: serve one term. You tried to stay in power, and
Speaker 1: somehow they were able to hoodwink you and then embracing
Speaker 1: the presidential debate against Donald Trump three months before any
Speaker 1: presidential debate had ever taken place.
Speaker 2: You got exposed. And then what do the Democrats do?
Speaker 1: They put Kamala Harris in there bypassing primaries like every
Speaker 1: other candidate would have to experience, in large part because
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty she couldn't even get to Iowa. And
Speaker 1: then you saw the American public on this is what
Speaker 1: we want, this is who we want, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Come to find out, it's a whole bunch of lives.
Speaker 1: But the reality is is you're not far removed from it,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, because had you kept your word and committed
Speaker 1: yourself to be in a transitional president and making room
Speaker 1: very early for candidates to come down the line for
Speaker 1: the Democratic nomination for the presidency of the United States,
Speaker 1: all the things that, all the things that happened in
Speaker 1: the aftermath would not have been necessary, but you didn't care. Instead,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about what for the good of
Speaker 1: the country. How could you possibly think you would have
Speaker 1: beaten Trump when inflation was taking place, when open borders
Speaker 1: had ravaged us, when they were you are in Ukraine
Speaker 1: against Russia was fomented even more when the almoster was
Speaker 1: rarely palced monsters. Really conflict took fold with all of
Speaker 1: this stuff happening. Mons removed from office when no one
Speaker 1: really cares to hear from you at this particular juncture.
Speaker 1: You're going to go on the BBC network and then
Speaker 1: in the aftermath of that the view and you're gonna
Speaker 1: bad talk Kamala Harris. You say you wasn't, But when
Speaker 1: you say you would have beaten Trump and that you
Speaker 1: knew she would have lost, that's bad talking her. Why
Speaker 1: did you leave out that you didn't put in a
Speaker 1: position to win because you refuse to step away. If
Speaker 1: you had kept your word about being a transitional president,
Speaker 1: and you had made it very clear early that you
Speaker 1: would only serve one term, it would have paved the
Speaker 1: way for her to run for the office herself and
Speaker 1: campaign with ample time to do so. If she is
Speaker 1: what you say she is, that she's qualified to be
Speaker 1: the president of the United States of America, you could
Speaker 1: have helped her, not just coming into the last minute,
Speaker 1: then give her an endorsement to take a shot of
Speaker 1: reportedly at Barack Obama and the George Cloonies of the world,
Speaker 1: and others. You could have helped her, but you didn't.
Speaker 1: And now, when you have an opportunity to walk away
Speaker 1: into the twilight and live your final years, you're talking
Speaker 1: about coming out with a book, it has to be
Speaker 1: a tell oil to get you any money, it has
Speaker 1: to be a tell oill. It's a sinister game, and
Speaker 1: you know it's bad when you can't stop playing it
Speaker 1: in your eighties. I'm not taking any tweets. I have
Speaker 1: nothing more to say. I got too much to do
Speaker 1: this week, and I'm about to get out of here.
Speaker 1: But it's a damn shame. It's a damn shame all
Speaker 1: of this stuff that the left wants to complain about
Speaker 1: with Trump, all of this stuff that they want to
Speaker 1: complain about, whether it's Elon Muskin doze from weeks ago,
Speaker 1: or it's the tariffs over the last few weeks, or
Speaker 1: it is what's he gonna do with Harvard, or what's
Speaker 1: he gonna do with freedom of speech? Or what's he
Speaker 1: gonna do with HBCUs and all of these other damn questions.
Speaker 1: If Biden had kept his word, stepped away, if the
Speaker 1: Democrats had held them.
Speaker 2: To it, had the strength to hold them to it,
Speaker 2: and by democrats.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about just elected officials. I'm talking about donors.
Speaker 1: All of this noise might have been prevented. Once again,
Speaker 1: my latest example of you bringing it on yourself. You
Speaker 1: brought it on yourself. Oh lord, you hold on the
Speaker 1: new glasses, new glasses.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm representing the Nick movement. I was gonna put
Speaker 4: the hoodie on while we was while we was recording.
Speaker 2: Excuse no, no, no hoodies? What what? What? What hat
Speaker 2: do you have on my hat?
Speaker 4: It's it's a it's a trucker hat.
Speaker 1: Just okay, it's a truck I had for somebody that
Speaker 1: never drives a truck. Okay, go ahead, where's the tower
Speaker 1: the Nick.
Speaker 2: Towers that on your head?
Speaker 4: Yeah? And since you're an actor now, you and Spike
Speaker 4: Lean need to link up this weekend. Why make a
Speaker 4: movie because we all voted that you don't need to
Speaker 4: be nowhere near the garden, you know him?
Speaker 2: Why not? Why not? Spike?
Speaker 1: I understand why you would say me and I'll be
Speaker 1: there Monday, by the way, but why not Spike?
Speaker 4: I mean, you famous for saying we haven't won since
Speaker 4: seventy three. Spike had the same seat for forty years.
Speaker 4: It gotta be you, what gotta be me? It has
Speaker 4: to be him, Like we haven't won since Spike has
Speaker 4: been sitting there.
Speaker 3: So give me the seat.
Speaker 2: So it's our fault. It's our fault. You need to
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 4: Since I picked the Knicks unlike you every showed, you know,
Speaker 4: in the seven platforms, and picked the Celtics.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: And then when the stream orange and Blue skies when.
Speaker 1: We win, holder you well listen because I'm happy. Just
Speaker 1: because I picked them to lose doesn't mean I wish
Speaker 1: it that they lose. It just that I didn't believe
Speaker 1: they're a better team. And I still don't believe they're
Speaker 1: a better team. They're not better than the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with the Boston Celtics
Speaker 1: right now, but actually I do.
Speaker 2: But let me ask you, what do you think is
Speaker 2: going on? Well? Educate me please.
Speaker 4: I was just about to say, since I'm really an analyst,
Speaker 4: I said that we have two people that we refer
Speaker 4: to as wingstop. They're coming through in the clutch every time.
Speaker 4: Not offensively, you said, who's that?
Speaker 2: Who's that? Michel Bridges?
Speaker 4: Michel Bridges and og we got some stuff to sort about.
Speaker 2: So you interrupted.
Speaker 1: You interrupted my show just to just to get your
Speaker 1: camera time.
Speaker 4: Na, just to tell you to stay clear of the
Speaker 4: garden this this weekend. Just stay clear. We just need
Speaker 4: you to stay clear. Give me a kick, give me
Speaker 4: a seat. You know one other thing that you're gonna
Speaker 4: have a problem with. You was about to let the
Speaker 4: show in without mentioning mother's dad. M yeah, so since
Speaker 4: so since we're rich now, I asked your sister. I'm like,
Speaker 4: what you want from mother's dad? And you know her,
Speaker 4: I don't want any object. I just want you to
Speaker 4: come to church, something like church. So she's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's Saturday at three.
Speaker 1: Watch watch your mouth. Be very careful with what you're
Speaker 1: about to say. Be very careful, don't be stupid.
Speaker 2: Saturday at three. Okay, we know what else is Saturday
Speaker 2: at three?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: So she asked you to come Saturday.
Speaker 4: At day talking about Pastor Anthony. Pastor Anthony is his
Speaker 4: first name, Carmelo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you something right now.
Speaker 2: Are you ready for this? Josh? You ready for this?
Speaker 2: High five? Virtually high five?
Speaker 1: Because I agree with you one thousand percent, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: We can't have her trying to get you the church
Speaker 1: on Saturday afternoon at the same time the.
Speaker 2: Knicks comes starting. Now that's now, she can't do that.
Speaker 1: She can't do that a Sunday they'll have been but
Speaker 1: a Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm wrong with that. And since we
Speaker 4: speaking about that, my seat on Saturday, I can't be
Speaker 4: outside the garden that day. And can you at least
Speaker 4: do that so that the fans could believe that you're
Speaker 4: a fan and.
Speaker 1: Get you a seat in the upper deck and the
Speaker 1: I get you.
Speaker 2: On the floor, I'm taking over it. I can't. I can't. Huh.
Speaker 2: I can't do that. I can't. You just don't have
Speaker 2: that kind of pull yet.
Speaker 4: No, it's not, it's not pulled. You got one hundred
Speaker 4: million in the bank. It doesn't matter how much it costs.
Speaker 4: It can't cost that much.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: Well, well, well, education, education, whatever salary I earned, it
Speaker 1: comes by month, you know, bi weekly, so and it
Speaker 1: don't start really till this summer. So it's not like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it ain't got nothing in the bank. I
Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: Speaking on a hundred that we just got, But what
Speaker 4: about the forty before that?
Speaker 2: I know all your contracts. Don't play with us.
Speaker 4: We've been riched. I about to switch this switch this
Speaker 4: head up. We've been riched.
Speaker 1: We just rich early now, all right, So why is
Speaker 1: it that I don't you know? First of all, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want a hoodie like that. Secondly, you need to
Speaker 1: take the damn thing off and put Josh or the
Speaker 1: Knicks or something. You need to stop walking around with that.
Speaker 1: Somebody beat your ass and take the damn hoodie since you,
Speaker 1: since you're rich, you could take it right. Thirdly, that
Speaker 1: we didn't get to the most important question.
Speaker 2: You didn't.
Speaker 1: You didn't really articulate what you thought about my acting performance.
Speaker 2: I thought I was pretty damn good. I really did.
Speaker 2: I really did.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, you just give it up and you was good.
Speaker 4: I need to see you do a role that's different
Speaker 4: from how you act in real life. You always in
Speaker 4: somebody's face. You always teld somebody with the dude that's
Speaker 4: right in your realm, and they know that. I need
Speaker 4: to see you play something else, like like somebody's husband.
Speaker 1: What you ain't never been there, I've never been somebody's husband,
Speaker 1: you white husband.
Speaker 2: While you ask me that that I.
Speaker 1: Mean that that that that that's relatively easy. That's relatively
Speaker 1: easy for me. I'm not the one devoid of etiquette.
Speaker 1: Knowing how to treat a lady and knowing how to
Speaker 1: make sure she feels special. That's not the problem I have.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, who's the one that needs help?
Speaker 1: Who's the one that needs therapy in that department?
Speaker 2: Not that would be you.
Speaker 4: So without the money, without the money, minus the money,
Speaker 4: right me? And you want the same woman, you think
Speaker 4: you're gonna get it?
Speaker 2: Why what not? I said? Without the money?
Speaker 1: Who do you think you learned most of the assuming
Speaker 1: you have gifts, who do you think you learned them from?
Speaker 1: Who have you been seeking advice from all of these decades?
Speaker 2: Excuse me?
Speaker 1: See See that's the lack of respect you have right there,
Speaker 1: Because I would never say that about Uncle Bays, who,
Speaker 1: God rest his soul, my big brother. I would never
Speaker 1: say that about Uncle Frankie, God rest the soul, my
Speaker 1: uncle who passed away in two thousands. I would never
Speaker 1: say that about cousin Carl, Derek Keith, anybody, any of
Speaker 1: the people you know, Grandpa, any of the people who
Speaker 1: bestole a level of knowledge and wisdom. Never assume you're
Speaker 1: superior to the teacher. See, you don't know that. That's
Speaker 1: your damn problem.
Speaker 2: You remember what you said? Let in here, what did
Speaker 2: I say?
Speaker 4: I you know what we're not even we're not gonna
Speaker 4: focus on that between me and you. If we going
Speaker 4: after the same girl, you will never get her without
Speaker 4: the money.
Speaker 2: So it's only money.
Speaker 1: I mean, are you telling me we were winding the
Speaker 1: clock and I'm this is me twenty five years younger.
Speaker 2: What's what you're doing?
Speaker 4: It could be whatever you want. I just know what
Speaker 4: I got comes naturally. I learned it from y'all.
Speaker 2: Know you have no First of all, that's ridiculous. You
Speaker 2: never learned.
Speaker 1: See that's the ignorance. I didn't learn what I am
Speaker 1: truly ignorant. Excuse me I feel I feel, But let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. Well, what your got naturally is
Speaker 1: DNA is jeens.
Speaker 2: So you thought you was the first.
Speaker 1: You think it started with you, you know, saying what
Speaker 1: you're talking about, I got a rich swag.
Speaker 4: Y'all couldn't have had that. In the book, it says
Speaker 4: y'all was poor about.
Speaker 2: You have a sweat.
Speaker 1: You have a rich swag because you hang out and
Speaker 1: steal from your uncle.
Speaker 2: That's what you do. Well. See.
Speaker 1: My point is that if this was twenty years twenty
Speaker 1: five years earlier, there be no rich uncle, which means
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have that swag, which means that you'd have
Speaker 1: to look like you broke ass self.
Speaker 4: My swag is not my look. My swag is me.
Speaker 4: What I throw on is what I throw on. If
Speaker 4: you they're gonna be like.
Speaker 2: What, Steve, can't I ask you a question.
Speaker 1: Well, if that's the case, and you got so much swag,
Speaker 1: you know, I know a lot of people that work
Speaker 1: at the garden, A lot of them females.
Speaker 2: Oh h, how come you don't know?
Speaker 4: Are you encouraging me?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm saying I'm saying. I'm saying, how come
Speaker 2: you can't get tickets to the guard.
Speaker 4: If I, if I go that route, I could, But
Speaker 4: I don't want you in a tableis you know? It's
Speaker 4: a lot going on already.
Speaker 2: So in other words, you're thinking to me, you know that,
Speaker 2: and you know that, goodbye man, goodbye garden. You know it. Hey, Josh,
Speaker 2: for you, for you, goodbye. Here we get out of it,
Speaker 2: as said for this edition to Stephen A.
Speaker 1: Smith, shaw y'all take it easy, you see, my nephew
Speaker 1: with the Knicks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we there, we did. We like that. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: live that lie.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that Boston's gonna win just so
Speaker 1: they could lose, because that's the trend that's been flowing.
Speaker 1: We're gonna roll with that until next time. Y'all list
Speaker 1: to Stephen. They signing off be in Love