1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: Everybody is the DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: We are to Breakfast Club. We got a special guest 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: in the building, legendary the Icon, Miss Lynn Whitfield. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 3: Welcome, good morning. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: How are you feeling. 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: Thank you? I feel great, glad to hear that. I'm 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: happy to be back. Look amazing, Yeah, thank you, thank you. 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: You just came back from South Africa, Zimbabwe. 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I came back from South Africa. I was 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: doing a film in Cape Town. I was at all 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: like two and a half months. 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 4: I was like, for you spiritually and culturally, okay, So 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 4: spiritually there's a lot of mag there's a magnetic force there, 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 4: you know, with Table Mountain, a cape of good hope 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: out there. 17 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: It's so powerful. So I feel very energized by the 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: energy of the place and often saddened by the history 19 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: of place, you know. So I have to kind of 20 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: balance that out and maybe not go to the Slave 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: Launch Museum right away, and maybe not go to District 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: six and you know, remember Robin Island and all that, 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: you know, and just feel the energy of the place. 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: Why it was so attractive in the first place, if 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: people wanted it so badly and still do. 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm going to Cape Town for the holidays. 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: I've been to Joe Burgy. I've never been to cap 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: It's beautiful. 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: It's very beautiful. 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: It's like a cross in topography between say a San 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: Francisco and a Miami. 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: I think it's like Miami. I always say Cape Town 33 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: reminds me of Miami a lot. Durban is kind of 34 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: like DC. 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know I haven't been at it like 36 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: Chicago Atlanta. 37 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: Yep. 38 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I feel. But I love it there. 39 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: It's my fourth time in South Africa. 40 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: Now you're on season seven of The Shy. Yes, how 41 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: are you enjoying The Shy? 42 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I really enjoyed it season seven. It was great. 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: I mean in for three episodes at the end of 44 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: season six, and then I was invited back for all 45 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: of season seven and it was great. So many young 46 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: talented actors and an interesting storyline for me. 47 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: So, yeah, how do you decide what you want to 48 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: do now? 49 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: Right? 50 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: Because you've done so many things and so many things 51 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: that have been impactful for our community. How do you say, 52 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: you know what I want to do I want to 53 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: work with the young Bucks on this one or I'd 54 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: rather do this one? How do you decide what, miss Linfield? 55 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 3: I don't know when I read it. When I read 56 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: something and my imagination gets to cooking and I can 57 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: see where I can add something to it. My southern 58 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: mother in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, who's now ninety four, Yama, 59 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: she says, she says, well, she'll put something on or 60 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: put a throw pillow on the couch or something, and 61 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: she'll stand back and she'll say, I don't know, does 62 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: it add? So if I feel like I can add 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: something at dimension, at deeper, meaning you know, thread something 64 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: through a story that makes it better, I usually want 65 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: to do it. Also, you know, I like roles that 66 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: are a little bit showy that I get to do 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: something exciting. 68 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, I heard you did that with Alicia. 69 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 5: I heard that you said that you were drew to 70 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 5: the role not because of what was on the paper, 71 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 5: and that you needed to fill that role out a 72 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 5: little bit more, right, Okay. 73 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: Right, the possibility of it, okay, because uh, it was 74 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: only for three It was supposed to be for three episodes. 75 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: So we have the first all the first information was 76 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: she wanted her son to go and revenge the death 77 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: of her brother, okay, which is you know, street culture, 78 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: street law like revenge, right. So I found that very 79 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 3: interesting to me because I don't understand people. I don't 80 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: really understand the visceral energy of people who actually are hurt, disappointed, 81 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: feel lost, and then turn that out into I'm going 82 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: to make somebody pay, because it still doesn't make the 83 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: pain go away, you know. So it was very interesting 84 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: to me to take that journey and kind of figure 85 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 3: out and fill in the gaps of how a human 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 3: being can decide that because I'm hurting, I'm going to 87 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: hurt you, I'm going to kill you and hopefully that 88 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: makes me feel better, you know, because I watch True 89 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 3: Crime sometime and you know, I love our country. I 90 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: love but there's a lot of gun violence going wrong. 91 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: People are acting out in some ways that more violence 92 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: will make me whole. That's crazy. That's a crazy concept 93 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: to me, and so I wanted to explore that kind 94 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: of psyche. 95 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: You know, people that just hurt and hurt people hurt people. 96 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. 97 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, when you don't, when you have all that unhealed trauma, 98 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 5: that you haven't dealt with you just go around, well. 99 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly so, but the journey, So we understand intellectually 100 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: how that works, right, but do we actually if we 101 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: were a fly on the wall and saw people move 102 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: in that direction and move to that and go and 103 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: purchase a and go and do and all of that. 104 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: So it's the nuances of it that are interested in me, 105 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: not just the you know, the sweeping bullet point concept. 106 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 5: Have you ever had the emotionally recover from a role 107 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 5: you played and which one took you out the most personally? 108 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: Mmm, it's it's it's one that it's one that nobody ever, 109 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: that people didn't really see. It was a part of 110 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 3: a trilogy of uh short stories that was on Showtime 111 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: years and years and years ago, and with Andrew Andrew, 112 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: I can't even remember all the people who were in it, 113 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: but the character was raped and when we shot it 114 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: it was a rainy day in Toronto, and you know, 115 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: the whole thing, the being thrown down, the invasion of it. 116 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: Of course there was no sexual act, but it really 117 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: took me a little while to process all that and 118 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: like release it because that aggressive of act was so 119 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: harsh to my spirit. Even though we were acting, I 120 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: had to just kind of heal from it. And that 121 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: was an unpleasant one and it took a while, and 122 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: I cried myself to sleep that night. So my heart 123 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: goes out to you know, women or any human beings. 124 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: Who've been you know, sexually assaulted. 125 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: Sexually assaulted. 126 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: When you hear that in the news, did that bring 127 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: you back there? 128 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: When I hear it in the news, that you know, again, 129 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: it's the nuances of something. So we hear, oh, somebody 130 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: was rape, somebody was sexually assaulted, but the nuances of 131 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: actually that happening to you, your body being invaded, you 132 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: being overpowered, you being overthrown. It's frightening and it's painful 133 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: and it's helpless. 134 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And you've also portrayed like a lot of 135 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: powerful matriarchs, right. I always wondered like, what did you 136 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: powerful women? 137 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: They're not all matriarches. Sometimes they don't, you know, there 138 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: are powerful women who don't have children, can't have children. Yeah. 139 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 5: I always wonder like, what did your mother or even 140 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 5: grandmother teach you about that? Like commanding presence that you bought. 141 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: To those worlds don't know. 142 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: I think that's an energy that somebody's kind of born with, 143 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: and my mother has it. And it's funny because my 144 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: mother has this commanding presence and she's, you know, in 145 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: her youth was really beautiful and well groomed and all 146 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: of that. Yet as her daughter, I know the nuances. 147 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: So that's why I texture all of the women, because 148 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: I was raised by women who have a lot of 149 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: dimensions to them, you know, who have a lot of insecurities, 150 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: and sometimes insecurities are all wrapped up and dressed up, 151 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: you know, in fancy clothes or you know, jewelry or 152 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: perfume and you know, hair and all of that. But 153 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: that doesn't have a lot to do with the evolution 154 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: of a soul. So I find it very interesting to 155 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: always go a little bit past the power and into 156 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: the other nuances of who people are. So they're never 157 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: just always powerful with no problems with without character flaws. 158 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: They're not perfect. There always some little missing link that 159 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: they could make better that makes them not quite the 160 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: person they want to be. 161 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 5: Is it even possible to capture the complexities of a 162 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 5: human in one role, because it feels like you can 163 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 5: only focus on like one or two layers of a person. 164 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: Well, that all has to do well. Of course, it 165 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: depends on script. It depends on the way a writer 166 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: allows you to develop a character. Yeah, so you can't 167 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 3: tell the whole story. I mean when I did Josephine Baker, 168 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 3: we couldn't tell the whole story. How can you tell 169 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: the whole How can I tell your entire story? You know? 170 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 3: I mean I could read your book and you probably 171 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: didn't tell your whole entire story. You know, that's a 172 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: very specific You can only make some decisions and take 173 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 3: an angle and make some creative decisions and go with that, 174 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: you know, because there are there are if you look 175 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: at a human being, there are like central events in 176 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: people's lives that make a big difference in who they 177 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: turn out to be. So you can make a choice. 178 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 3: And that's not just the actor, that's the writer, the director. 179 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 3: I can decide in my mind, these are events that 180 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: I know that occurred in this human being's life. So 181 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 3: that will affect how I respond, Right, even if the 182 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: audience doesn't see it, the audience seeing those important events 183 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 3: that happen to you help them have more compassion for 184 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: your mistakes. I think understand. I mean, there's so many 185 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: people that we love in the world, who are cultural icons. 186 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: You know, big mistakes, you make mistakes, Well, something happened 187 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: when you Something had to happen long before you made 188 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 3: these mistakes that skewg your judgment, you know, so it 189 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: I believe that human beings were born good. No baby 190 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: is born a villain. No baby is born a murderer, 191 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 3: And it's up to you know, how they're parented, what 192 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: they're surrounded by, what they're exposed to, who they turned 193 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: out to be. 194 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask about the evolution of Hollywood, right, 195 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: meaning I don't think people look at movies as they 196 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: did back then. I wanted to get your thoughts on it, 197 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: right because you know, when a movie came out, everybody 198 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: wanted to go see that movie. But now I feel 199 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: like you we don't have that same the same feeling 200 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: towards movies a lot of the times. Like I was 201 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 2: just talking to Charlamaine about the Clarissa Shields movie, and 202 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: I was like, it was an amazing movie, but I 203 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: forgot it came out. It came out on Christmas and 204 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: I happened to see it on a plane and I'm like, damn, 205 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: this was a good movie movie. 206 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: And you didn't. Yeah, well, technology has sort of changed everything, 207 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: I think, you know, because everything is accessible. When when 208 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: movie culture was a family event, when people waited with 209 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: faded breath to go and see a movie the opening 210 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 3: of a movie, it was because they weren't going to 211 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: see it. If you miss it in the movie theater, 212 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: you might not see. 213 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: It until it went to Blockbuster. 214 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: My age. 215 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: But yes, we went to the block till you could. 216 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: Get it and block damn blockbuster Blockbuster in a long time. 217 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: But it was so like great because it's a family event. 218 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: You know, everybody gets together, you go in. People even 219 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: used to like want to look cute, They have dinner 220 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: before and the family goes to the movies and shares 221 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 3: this idea even I mean, I loved drive ins. Drive 222 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 3: ins were great because we're going our pajamas. But no, 223 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 3: it's not like that anymore because people have access. Sometimes 224 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: they have access to the movie before it's in a 225 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 3: movie theater. So technology has kind of changed all that. 226 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: But does that killed the experience? Like we were talking 227 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 2: about even sinners, Like he said, you want to see 228 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: it on imax because the sounds and the reality and 229 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: seeing it on an airplane TV is not doing anything 230 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: for it. 231 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 3: What can I tell you? No, No, of course it's 232 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: going to be good. But when I trained to be 233 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 3: an actress, you know, when I was at Howard, when 234 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: I trained, you know, privately, after college and all that, 235 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: I was training to be on a big, thirty foot screen. 236 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 3: It was not occurring to me that people would be 237 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: watching my image on a three inch screen on a phone. 238 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: It really that part makes me a little sad sometimes, Yeah, 239 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: because I fell in love with movies and storytelling watching 240 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 3: things on a big screen, or at least the Million 241 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: Dollar Movie with my grandmother when you could you know, 242 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: but this had been a movie and you couldn't see 243 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 3: it anywhere else as you caught them, you know, you 244 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: caught the late night movie and it was playing again. 245 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 3: You couldn't just on demand it somewhere. 246 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 5: Well, what's the difference, Like, how do you approach it 247 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 5: differently as opposed to Okay, I know this is gonna 248 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 5: be on a film, big screen, it's gonna be on TV. 249 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: Like, how do you do you approach it differently? When 250 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: you act. 251 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: A little bit? 252 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: Wow? 253 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, when you know something is gonna be on 254 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: a big screen and you trust the director, I'm so 255 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: excited because I just did a thrill with Malcolm d Lee. 256 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: That's what I was doing in South Africa. And we 257 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: know that it is made for the movie theater. Okay, 258 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: so when a screen is thirty feet tall, you really 259 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: can think of thought and it will transmit. You know, 260 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: you don't have two show people what you're feeling. You 261 00:14:54,960 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 3: can simply feel what you're feeling, you know, And and 262 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: that's so beautiful. But if you know it's on a tiny, 263 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: a small screen, it kind of gives you freedom to 264 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: be more animated, you know. I mean, you know, on 265 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: a thirty foot screen, I mean I don't I don't 266 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: want to see people's lips trembling and all that. But 267 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I don't want to see somebody, 268 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: you know, if there's surprize like eyes. But because that 269 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: means your eyes are like fifteen, it's big, you know, 270 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: and invasive. And I think it's film just pulls you 271 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: into the experience, you know, and the smaller the screen 272 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: that you don't have to think about it quite as much. 273 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: So it can be different. But good acting is good acting. 274 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: Believable acting is believable anywhere it could be on the 275 00:15:54,560 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: stage a big screen television, right, but there are a 276 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: little nuances that can change when you're doing it. For Bisically, 277 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: how do you like seeing stories? 278 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 5: How do you like to take That's an interesting question, 279 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 5: I mean, and I'm hearing you say it now. And 280 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 5: then I heard like one of my production partners, we 281 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 5: was talking earlier this week and he was like, you 282 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 5: shoot it. 283 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: Then after you shoot it, you determine where it's gonna 284 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: where it's gonna live. You can tell where it's going 285 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: to live. 286 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 5: And I had me just think, and I personally think 287 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 5: I liked the theater, even though I like the comfort 288 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 5: of home, but certain things I want to go see 289 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 5: in theater. I enjoyed watching centers and theaters. I want 290 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 5: to go see you I can't wait. 291 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I enjoyed it. I still enjoyed the THEA too bad. 292 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: I'm leaving we ago. 293 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: You could have went too, because I like the comfort 294 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: of my home and the safety of my home now 295 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: with everything going on, I like being home. 296 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: I know every now and then. I remember last year 297 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: I was in Chicago. I went to see Pretty Thinks. 298 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: I forgot the name of it, but it was it 299 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: won the Oscar and I was leaning back on the seat, 300 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 3: and the seat was kind of tweety, and all this 301 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: sudden I got into my mind like, oh my god, 302 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: what if somebody like had some kind of something that 303 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: I could catch. 304 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 5: Now, I'd be like that when I go to the Madinade, 305 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 5: because I go to Madina's so nobody's in there, and 306 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 5: so I'll be all the way to the top. 307 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: So if somebody comes up there and sits by me, 308 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, why would you come? 309 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: All all? 310 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 3: It's a whole What in the world that's like being 311 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: at a gym and the gym is completely empty. Why 312 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: in the world are you going to choose the treadmill 313 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: right next to me? I don't want to you grunting 314 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 3: and breathing, you know. 315 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 5: And I like the theater experience now because I'm learning, 316 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 5: like how the IMAX experience enhances it. 317 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: The other day I went to go see Thunderboats. 318 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 5: I want to see Thunderbolt last week and I want 319 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 5: to go see it in whether it RpK or r 320 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 5: p X or something like that, and you can you can. 321 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: You feel it? Yeah? Yeah? All the rumbring all this 322 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: more experiential kind of well, we certainly need really quality 323 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 3: escapism right now. I would say so. Yeah, it's great 324 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: to be enveloped in an experience and lose oneself to 325 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: just being taking in, taking in another story, taking in 326 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: humanity from another point of view, whether it's action or whatever, 327 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: it is, romance, sensual, whatever, it's just great to leave 328 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 3: our problems behind and step into somebody else's reality. 329 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: I think about you're talking about black stories. 330 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 3: I know you're gonna call me Lynn. 331 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: Lynn, you know, just Lyn. 332 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: No, but would you please call me Lynn? 333 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: I can say, miss Lynn. 334 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 3: Oh, it's just respectful, It is respectful, okay, miss all right, 335 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: Miss Lynn? What then if you're going to do that, 336 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 3: I probably like what we feel better, you know? When 337 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 3: to Southern. 338 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 1: Born and raised, I'm from New York. 339 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 2: He's from South Carolina, South. 340 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: Carolina rais yes, ma'am. 341 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 3: I never would have thought so. 342 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 343 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 5: My family there right now, really my mother, dad, in laws, brothers, sisters, everybody, cousins. 344 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 3: I didn't know. Okay, we country can that's right, right. 345 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. 346 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay. 347 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: I was asked about, you know, you talked about our stories, 348 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: black stories. Why do you think it's still so hard 349 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: for black stories to be told and sold in Hollywood? 350 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: When you know, obviously we're supporting people are going to see, 351 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: but they just don't want to produce them. 352 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: Now, you know, we could just go on and on time. Well, 353 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: the relevance of of who we are as a people, 354 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: the entertaining nature of who we are as a people, 355 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: the magic of who we are, of course, is always 356 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 3: being downplayed, is always being made less important than it 357 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: is in every in every aspect of our culture. I 358 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: mean in fashion, nobody is going to say, wow, this 359 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: is really something that was very much influenced by the 360 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 3: raps that were worn by men in some you know, 361 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: Western African tribe. 362 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: Even the metcallamy thirty one million, how much went to 363 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: organizations that benefit black and brown people? 364 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: It says zero. 365 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: So, you know, I just came back from South Africa, 366 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: a country that I love. I love this country, but 367 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: that the supremacy of others and the self importance of others, 368 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: and I feel the insecurity of our wonder, you know, 369 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 3: being threatened by our majesty, our creativity. So it's constantly 370 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: a threat to people, it's constantly being belittled and made 371 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: less important. That's just the nature of it. Because you know, 372 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: I thought I would be you know, just getting away 373 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: from some things, being in another country for two and everyboos. 374 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: But it is so the true. I mean, I go 375 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: to Victoria Falls, which which is called Mosa Tuna, you know, 376 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: and that's the storm, the storm, the storm that thunders. 377 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 3: I think that's the true tribal you know, Quosa. I 378 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: think it's Closa the language, and that was the name 379 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: of it. So this English explorer comes the tribe, show 380 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: him this seventh one of the seven Wonders of the world, 381 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: and he says, the livingstone, you know, oh marvelous. Yes, 382 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: I discovered this. I think I should gift it to 383 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 3: the queen and name it after Crazy. So that's Victoria Falls, 384 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: you know. So it's a constant kind of wanting something 385 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: that doesn't belong to you, or wanting to quiet things 386 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: that are threatening to you or makes you seem less interesting, 387 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: or is has commercial value, but you want to own it. 388 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: So that. 389 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it's the same story over and over and 390 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 3: over and over again. So sometimes I feel like if 391 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: we just keep just talking about it, we're just romancing, 392 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 3: you know, like, oh, dead mess. Because I can't see 393 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 3: I can't see white supremacy disappearing. I can't see the 394 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: need to make others small to feel strong. I don't 395 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 3: see it leaving right. 396 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 5: And the hilarious thing about white supremacy is that we're 397 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 5: not the threat to your existence. White supremacists are the 398 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 5: threat to white supremacist existence. 399 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: Well, of course, But when you get to the point 400 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: when we're just even hitting the tip of an iceberg 401 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: talking about cultural things, artistic things, and why you know, 402 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 3: so just story which was so just play could be 403 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 3: done and do all that box office back thirty years 404 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: ago with Adolph Caesar and Denzel you know, and then 405 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 3: after that there's still a earth or how you could 406 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 3: have ladies sings the Blues and it'd be so incredible. 407 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: But you know, thank god, HBO said what twenty years later, 408 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: let's do Josephine Baker, I mean, how many stories? So 409 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter often, like what the box office is 410 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 3: that it actually made money, they just don't see the 411 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: relevance of filling out theaters with more. And sometimes we 412 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 3: maybe don't even we maybe don't you know, put forth 413 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: the stories that move us forward. I mean, there's so 414 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 3: much complexity in race, in every corner of it. What 415 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: do you think? 416 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: I think everything you just said is absolutely correct, you know, 417 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: But does. 418 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: It make you tired you have these conversations? Does it 419 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 3: make you you know, because you have so many of 420 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: these conversations, it. 421 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 5: Makes me tell and when we're not doing anything about it. 422 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 5: But I think that there's a lot of people that's 423 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 5: doing things about it, and I'm not looking. 424 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: For Ryan Coogler's definitely doing I am just Ryan. I 425 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 3: want to work with you. You are brilliant. He is 426 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: just so brilliant and courageous and just and authentic, you know, 427 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 3: just so multi layered in his message. So there's always 428 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: always something that moves us forward. 429 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: You know. 430 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: We got all the leaders we got and now maybe 431 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 3: we have a pope, will be some voice in something 432 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: to speak up. 433 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: You know. 434 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: It's there's always I have faith, I hope, but I 435 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 3: have faith that there'll always be something that will bring 436 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: a balance to it. 437 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: Well, that's something that's always God. 438 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: I think, Well, yeah, it's always it, that's right. But 439 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: God will always provide some new voice, some new leader, groom, 440 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: somebody that we don't know that will come out of 441 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 3: nowhere and help us to get through this. 442 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: I love you. 443 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: I said you have to leave at nine for the 444 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: five oh I do. 445 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: I do exactly. Relax, You're just tired me. 446 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, perfect. 447 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: You know I love your longevity in the game. 448 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 5: I don't think we applaud that enough in people, just 449 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 5: the fact that somebody can be around for so long 450 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 5: and be so consistent. 451 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: Right. 452 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 5: Was there ever a time in your career when you 453 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 5: felt invisible? And how did you push through that season? 454 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: Well? You were just talking about God, right, So those 455 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: times when you say, God, I've contributed, I've done you know, 456 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 3: I've tried to do good work all this time? Why 457 00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: is nobody seeing it? Why is the continuum? Right? So, yeah, 458 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: that happens. And then I have to have faith that 459 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: this gift that was deposited in me, this purpose that 460 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: was put in to me, what is not there for nothing, 461 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 3: and that the right vehicle will come or perhaps maybe 462 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: what God is saying, well, you need to do the 463 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: right vehicle your damn self, because I've given you all 464 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 3: kinds of talent to do so. So you know whether 465 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 3: or not I'm obedient to that. You know, we'll no 466 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: maybe in our next conversation, but of course, and I 467 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: get through it with God. I get through it with 468 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 3: my love of storytelling, my love of acting, of being 469 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: a part of this phenomenon. 470 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 5: Why wouldn't you be obedient to God telling you to 471 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 5: make your own? Like, what would even be the hesitation. 472 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a hesitation of I don't know 473 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: if I should do it. It's the energetic, the energetic 474 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: activity of what it takes to do it and to 475 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 3: sell it, you know, to see it all the way through. 476 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 3: That's why I'm saying. Ryan Coogler is just so inspiring, 477 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 3: you know, because he went all around Africa to many 478 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: many countries before he did Black Panther, you know, researching, 479 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: He researched the Blues and all those So I mean, 480 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: so it takes it's me wanting to put forth all 481 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 3: the energy, effort layers that it takes in a craft 482 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 3: that I haven't spent my life developing, like acting telling 483 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: the story, but creating the story like taking a pen 484 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: and putting it on. And I kind of always want 485 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: to be good at what I do. So the sloppy copy, 486 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: I just feel like, yeah, the sloppy coffee might scare 487 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: the shot out of me, you know what I mean, Like, 488 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: oh my god, I get this this, you know, like 489 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: a blank page. So so That's why it's not a 490 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: brazen disobedience. It's more maybe a lack of. 491 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 5: I love when I hear, you know, the ogs talk 492 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 5: about people like Ryan, because I wonder, what is Ryan 493 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 5: doing that you haven't seen before? 494 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: Because you know, you know the Gordon parks Is and 495 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: the Melvin Van. 496 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 5: Peebles and the Kathleen College, the Spike Lee's like, you know, 497 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 5: all of these people have created great black work as well. 498 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: Well what what what what? What Ryan is doing is 499 00:29:51,880 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: taking that same kind of authority, creativity, uh, authenticity into 500 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: genres that we're not usually Yeah, you know, so that 501 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: so that's wonderful, you know, So we have voices and 502 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 3: being told in all those areas you know, sinners is 503 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: you know, well there's but yeah it's vampires, right and 504 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 3: the blues and you know, so authentically moving us into 505 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: not camp not, you know, just authentically like this is 506 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: a real story, not like a shiny costume but a 507 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 3: tweet suit and it's been around a long time, it has. 508 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: Character, it still feels black, and. 509 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. So that's why I applaud him. So 510 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 3: because we need the new voices, right, we're talking about 511 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 3: new voices. We need new creative leadership. We need, we 512 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: need for energy all the time. 513 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: I think Jordan Peel does a good job too, Yes, 514 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: yes he does. 515 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 3: He really, really really does a really great job. He's 516 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 3: and I think there's so much more to come. 517 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: There. 518 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: Is there a movie role that you turned down that 519 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: after seeing the movie, he was like, damn, I should 520 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: have turned that one down. I liked that movie a 521 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: part or a character. 522 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 3: No, there there were one or two that they didn't 523 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: choose me for that I thought I should have done. 524 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: But then you know, you can never name those. You're no, no, no, 525 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 3: we're not. We're gonna leave here with just it's gonna 526 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: be smooth sailor. 527 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of people on line comparing the 528 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 5: role of Alicia to your Lady May roll, you know, 529 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 5: and how do you feel about those compared? 530 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 3: I mean, they can do what they want. I think, 531 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 3: you know, Alicia, Lady May they have a kingdom and 532 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: they're not gonna lose it. You know they have, you 533 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: know what they have, They're not gonna lose. Lady May 534 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 3: would not pick up a gun and go kill somebody. 535 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: She might pray you out of the church, but she 536 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't take someone's life. Lady May is a God fearing 537 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: woman who feels that putting her faith in God will 538 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: help her do what she needs to do. Lady May 539 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 3: had a long standing love affair with her actual real husband, 540 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: even though they had problems, so it was a much 541 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: more organized family structure. Alicia's out there on her own, 542 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: you know, divorced by herself, trying to make something of 543 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: her son, not having much faith in anything, so therefore 544 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 3: feeling like she's got to take care of it. All 545 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 3: they have in common that they're well groomed women, but 546 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: I really pay more attention to the diversity in these 547 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 3: women's emotional experiences. So for me, they're very different. 548 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're looking at the on screen diva, well. 549 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: This is it, and yeah, yeah, not like who they are. 550 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: And it's not always my fault. I am not somebody 551 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 3: who says it's in my contract that I have to 552 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: have fabulous clothes, and I think home with me when 553 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: I go, they must be gorgeous, they must be designer. 554 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 3: People see that in me, and they it always just 555 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 3: even if I'm trying to be less. But did you 556 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: see my film Albany Road. You didn't see that? You 557 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 3: see Albany Road because it was an independent film that 558 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 3: didn't have great distribution. But there's absolutely no glamor. It 559 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 3: was last year we won several film awards and it's 560 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 3: me and Renae Elast Goldsbury and a lot of great actors. 561 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 3: But you see that stuff, they don't. It doesn't stay. 562 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 3: I was funny. I was not glamorous. I was no, no, no, 563 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 3: so there are I've played My Maid and you know 564 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: and this, and but they don't see them. They don't 565 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 3: seem to stick. They like. People like what they like. 566 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: They like, Yeah, they like see But do you still 567 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 2: you don't still audition or do you still audition? Do 568 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: you enjoy the audition process or is it one of 569 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: those things now you're like, give me what I want. 570 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: We just talked about Hollywood. Why are you asking me? 571 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 2: And you got hits on the board? 572 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 5: I do, I do. 573 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 3: I've made classes. I mean, you know, I'm a horse 574 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: that you can bet on. You know. I don't mean 575 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna. I will not I will not break 576 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 3: a leg or lose the race for you. I will 577 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 3: take it to the end and people will feel something 578 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 3: that's the truth. But that is not always rewarded, and 579 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: there's you know, so yeah, many times I'm invited to 580 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 3: do things. I was invited to do the Shy, I 581 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 3: was invited to do Albany Road. I was invited to 582 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 3: do the film I just did with Malcolm d Lee, 583 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 3: which I have great, uh expectation that it'll be good. 584 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 3: But then sometimes it's like, oh, really, well, we just 585 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 3: need to see her, we need to see her do it, 586 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 3: prove it. And many many, many, many many people. Yeah, 587 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 3: after the air and now even the Golden Globe nomination 588 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 3: and after the absolutely absolutely. It's because here's the thing, 589 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 3: so much of casting in Hollywood and Hollywood is based 590 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 3: upon fear. So like, you don't want to make a mistake. 591 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 3: A director wants to be sure, maybe that you can 592 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 3: deliver their vision of something, and nobody wants to take 593 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 3: the blame. Nobody wants to take a fall. So show me, 594 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 3: prove it to me. I don't know if every everybody 595 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 3: goes through, but I think if you ask many actors, 596 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 3: probably not Denzel or Sam or you know this, it 597 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 3: tends to be a little bit easier for our male stars. 598 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: You feel you get the flowers you deserve for all 599 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: the roles and the hits and the big movies and 600 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 2: the big shows. You feel like you get the flowers 601 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 2: that you deserve. Honestly, well, let me. 602 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 3: Say, I think I'm more in the I'm more in 603 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 3: the in the market for like, because you know, flowers 604 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 3: wilt and die. So I'm good with I mean, I 605 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 3: understand when they say I want to give you your 606 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 3: flowers while you I know, but you know, give me 607 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 3: some diamonds, give me some things that stick, that continue 608 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: to to gain value and so classics. So an opportunity 609 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 3: to do more films that are stories that will be classics, 610 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 3: that will stick around after I'm long gone is what 611 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 3: I want. I don't need so much people sitting around saying, oh, 612 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 3: you did so good and you're an icon, and you 613 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 3: know on your shoulders you open doors for me. I'm like, 614 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 3: I'm opening doors for myself still, you know, I still 615 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 3: have stuff I want to do, you know. So the 616 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 3: Black Critics Association on me this year at their luncheon, 617 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 3: not at their evening big gala. But it was beautiful 618 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:14,959 Speaker 3: at the luncheon because it's more intimate and people care. Gil, Gil, 619 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 3: don't don't listen to that, Gill. You don't know gil No, 620 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 3: because people really talk real smack at the luncheon. They 621 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 3: really it's not so formal. I really really enjoyed it 622 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 3: and I said something there that I really would not 623 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 3: say probably at the gala, which is, thank you so 624 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 3: much for the respect, thank you for giving me flowers, 625 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 3: that I open doors for you and you're inspired and 626 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 3: all that. But I mean, I really don't feel comfortable 627 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 3: when people say, you know, on your shoulders, I stand, 628 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 3: and please don't stand on my shoulders because I need 629 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 3: to be laying on my feet. I'm not going to 630 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 3: be put in some corner. And as long as I 631 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 3: can just keep this. I heard that ault therapy and 632 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 3: red light therapy really you know, tightened skin. So as 633 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 3: long as I can keep it, then I have so 634 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 3: much I want to do. 635 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: What do you tell the young actress in college right now, 636 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 2: Hampton University that is looking to be in this game? 637 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 2: What do you tell that individual? 638 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: Try? 639 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 3: Is that your child or your girlfriend or who are 640 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 3: you talking about? I'm trying to I just want to 641 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 3: know who you're talking about. That is so mean, That 642 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 3: is so mean. I would say, you know that it's 643 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 3: really important two really be good at what you do 644 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 3: to work on the techniques that will give you the 645 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 3: upper hand when all that stuff is going on. You know, auditioning, nerves, 646 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 3: you know action, you know, everything's going people if you 647 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 3: have to have your game plan, So that's called technique. 648 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 3: So I would say, you know, real study so that 649 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 3: you have command of your own talent is really important. 650 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 3: And then after that, to understand the shifts in this 651 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 3: business that would give you visibility to even be considered, 652 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 3: you know, that is important. Social media is important. Where 653 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 3: where are people finding talent? You know, so figuring out 654 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 3: the business part of it and how you can attain 655 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 3: it because agents don't even want to represent people who 656 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 3: don't already have credits. And then out in Hollywood, you know, 657 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 3: everything's behind the gate, but every audition is like virtual, 658 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 3: so you don't even get to there. There is no 659 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 3: couch thing even that you have to worry about because 660 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 3: there's they just virtual. It's all virtual there. You don't 661 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 3: even have to be worried about that. It's like, oh, 662 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 3: can you send a tape where it has to be 663 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 3: in by five o'clock, and you know they get one 664 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 3: hundred tapes and then a casting director goes to that, 665 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 3: so you don't even have the opportunity for your personality 666 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 3: to stand out or whatever you're trying to. 667 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 4: Say. 668 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: You don't have the opportunity to sleep your way to 669 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: the top. 670 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 3: No, I didn't want to say it because I have 671 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 3: to be careful. Like land Wit Phil was talking about 672 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 3: what is she doing for young It's like, I don't know. 673 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 3: People take things out in front of yeah. Yeah, so 674 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 3: you don't even get to get in the room. So 675 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 3: learn the business and how you can amplify your talent, 676 00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 3: but first, please be good. Mediocrity it's just the most 677 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 3: boring thing. 678 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 5: I've got two more questions, because I know you got 679 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 5: to go what does success look like to you at 680 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 5: twenty five? And how that definition changed? 681 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: Now? 682 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 3: Oh, at twenty five, I wanted an oscar. I still 683 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 3: don't have one. I haven't even been in anything that 684 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 3: would give me a consideration for an oscar. I haven't 685 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 3: even been in that conversation I would. I don't know. 686 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 3: That was just a childhood It's superficial. I know it is, 687 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 3: but oh my goodness, I just it was just sort 688 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 3: of something I romanced in my life. Right, So I 689 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 3: still have the twenty five year old version of fat 690 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 3: But now I just am more comfortable with myself and 691 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 3: I trust myself more. And what was different with my 692 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 3: twenty five year old self than now? I think I 693 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 3: was much more of a romantic and now I'm not 694 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 3: so much of a romantic. 695 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 1: Really, I don't think so. 696 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 3: I I okay, here's the thing. I am a romantic, 697 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,959 Speaker 3: but I thought that being a romantic about life meant 698 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 3: that you would find the best of romance, that life 699 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,439 Speaker 3: would be so romantic. And I don't think that life 700 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 3: is as romantic as I thought. 701 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: You are aging like fine wine. 702 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 5: Right, So what's the most misunderstood thing about being a 703 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 5: woman who ages publicly in Hollywood? 704 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 3: That they that there's some kind of neutering thing that 705 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 3: goes on, you know, where you don't think of women 706 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 3: as sensual or sexual beings or real you know, real women. 707 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 3: Is stereotypical things that begin to happen in terms of 708 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 3: roles and casting and writing. And that's what our black 709 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 3: writers do it as well. It's not it's not a 710 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 3: white Hollywood thing where this happens. It just happened, and 711 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 3: it's boring as ship. It's really a boring. 712 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: Be sexy. You can still be romantic. You don't have 713 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: to Grandmammy. You don't have to anto me. 714 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: That's why I call you Miss Whitfield, because if I 715 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: call you Lynn. 716 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 3: But that's boring though, But that's boring. 717 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 1: Still got that everything, you still got the the sexiness. 718 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 3: Well it's fun. And so I said, if I get 719 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 3: this old therapy. 720 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 2: Just keeping e things the mask and now you put 721 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 2: the mask onto the red light. 722 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 3: I have it. I don't do it as often as 723 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 3: I should, but I'm going to because that would be 724 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 3: the only thing, just keeping everything tight. 725 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: But the energy about you, it's the energy that you have, 726 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: is the energy stuff any Mills has. It's an energy police. 727 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 3: Oh my god, lord, Yes, yes, so that's it. I 728 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 3: just I just think they do that and that's boring. 729 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 3: It is so so boring. Uh. How they the stories 730 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 3: that they write, how you're perceived. 731 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get what you're saying. 732 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 5: They want to write you into parts that they think 733 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 5: a older woman should be playing basically. 734 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yes, they want to write that in you know, 735 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 3: comfortable world. Everybody ain't got children, they are barren women. 736 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 3: There are women who never had children who are really interesting, 737 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 3: who have a life. And even if you do have children, 738 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 3: if people have lives, separate from their kids and their 739 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:47,479 Speaker 3: husbands and their like appendage rolls. I don't know. I'm 740 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 3: very just fascinated by interesting women who continue to be 741 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 3: productive and have have a life, and they do and 742 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 3: we do, so I don't like that. 743 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 2: We appreciate you for joining us always. 744 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 3: And I don't want to end on something I said. 745 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 3: I don't like that. Does that sound fussy? No? No, 746 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 3: but I mean no. I know we have to go, 747 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 3: but you will always get me talking, and I always 748 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 3: leave here saying did I say anything that's gonna be? 749 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 1: You've earned the right to say whatever you want. That's okay, right, right? 750 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 3: But did he tell you that I was one of 751 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 3: the early people to make him take his hat off? 752 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 3: And I don't know how many people have felt his 753 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 3: and how and how it just is amazing. I'm just 754 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 3: so happy and i've seen you without and you're very 755 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 3: handsome with. 756 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 2: When when you come up here, he starts to blushing 757 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 2: and pace. 758 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 3: Back and yeah, I saw y'all sitting up in here 759 00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 3: looking border ship before I got here. But thank you 760 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 3: so much, But thank you so much, and thank you 761 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 3: for supporting the Shy and all my cast made, and 762 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 3: mainly for supporting me always and always being kind and 763 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 3: never making me too controversial. But I was saying, maybe 764 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 3: I need more controversy because then you don't think you. 765 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 1: Don't want to be contrived. 766 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 5: That's why I'm glad what you I don't know if 767 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 5: he was trying to do that, but contrived contriversy like 768 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 5: contrived controversy. 769 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: You don't need that. 770 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 3: I don't, right, I can't even do it. I know 771 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 3: I can't. But you know, the people who do, they 772 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 3: find them. Come on, see, I don't agree with that. 773 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. 774 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 5: I feel like the people who are actually good because 775 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 5: you said that earlier, make sure you're good. You're actually good. 776 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 5: Everybody knows that you're you're great. I think that's it 777 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 5: hurts to say, but it's a lost art of being great. 778 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 5: But anytime you're doing art, you should be being great. 779 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 5: I don't have a lot of great people out here. 780 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, or at least trying. You know, we can make 781 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,919 Speaker 3: mistakes and do a sloppy copy and maybe it didn't work, 782 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 3: but keep working at it and getting down to you 783 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 3: want to act. 784 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 1: No, I'm actually going to be I'm producing. 785 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 3: You're producing. 786 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: I like producing. 787 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 3: Okay, that's good. I could see that. 788 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 2: What about you I did before. But I'm good, You're good. 789 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 2: I'm good. 790 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 3: I know it's a lot of work. It's hard to work. 791 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 3: It's a lot of work. Well, you won't thank you 792 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 3: so much. 793 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,879 Speaker 2: Season seven of the Shot is streaming now, Miss lynd 794 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 2: Wit Phil, thank you so much. 795 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 3: You're quite welcome. Thank you for having me wake that 796 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 3: ass up in the morning. 797 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club