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Speaker 2: listen to it. After four o'clock we continue. Now we're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk with Jim Lacy. Jim some years ago wrote

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Speaker 2: the book Taxafornia, was an Amazon bestseller, and he's with

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Speaker 2: the United States Justice Foundation. He works with that organization

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Speaker 2: and they have a pull out because this crime situation

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Speaker 2: that everyone's upset with, and it runs from you know,

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Speaker 2: state of what a moratorium I think Newsom called it.

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Speaker 2: There's a mordtorium on the death penalty, so nobody's getting executed. Well,

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Speaker 2: it turns out that Newsom and the rest of the

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Speaker 2: because it turns out that a majority of Californians support

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Speaker 2: it turns out fifty three percent of registered voters support

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Speaker 2: So let's say, and there's other interesting things questions in

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Speaker 2: the United States Justice Foundation. Jim, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm great, John, and you're having a great show. I

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Speaker 3: loved listening to your interview with Caruso. But you're absolutely

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Speaker 3: distort public opinion to support their progressive narrative. That things

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Speaker 3: like no cash bail, reducing prison populations, closing the prison

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Speaker 3: not enforcing the special circumstances involved with murder, that that

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Speaker 3: all of that stuff is good, that people are okay

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Speaker 3: with it, and that Newsom could stand on principle whatever

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Speaker 3: that principle is. That there's a California death penalty law.

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Speaker 3: It's been in our constitution for over one hundred years.

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Speaker 3: The state has voted on it. You're absolutely right. Three

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Speaker 3: And what do we have. We have seven hundred people

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Speaker 3: report public attitudes with their poll. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: There is such a huge connect on the disconnect rather

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm living in an altering universe because

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Speaker 1: And everybody I know is talking like I do. Everybody

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Speaker 2: But but you know, everybody in government, in the legislature,

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Speaker 3: And what we need to do is we have to

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Speaker 3: emperor has no clothes now. In this polling that we did,

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Speaker 2: Are they going to so differently? This is what I

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Speaker 1: Do people take all this angst and vote differently? Okay?

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Speaker 3: But if you go and you ask somebody about the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And as I'm saying, I think it's a failure

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Speaker 1: Jim, Thank you very much for coming on with us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Jim Lacy, and he's with the United States Justice Foundation.

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Speaker 2: I've got more on this poll regarding a whole list

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Speaker 2: of issues where something is out of whack between the

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Speaker 2: There's only three percent of California voters who think taxes

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Speaker 2: The direction of crime, seventy three percent of registered voters

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Speaker 2: say crime has increased, sixteen percent decreased. Sixty one percent

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Speaker 2: and I believe all these numbers. These numbers track with

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Speaker 2: Think if you have a heinous murderer, you got to

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, Eric Adams, the mayor of New York,

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Speaker 2: say the kid is transported to a doctor's appointment and

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Speaker 2: suddenly whoever's driving the car to get five years in jail.

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Speaker 2: So the ACLU is fighting this. I just never heard

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine you know that whole mob.

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Speaker 2: At the Tobanga shopping mall that burst into a Nordstroms.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to get five minutes in jail. Conways here.

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Speaker 7: Hey, now, I almost went to that mall with my

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Speaker 1: To school clothes.

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Speaker 7: We were two seconds away from getting on the freeway

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Speaker 7: and going that way, but there's too much traffic.

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Speaker 2: We've been right involved with that thing. You ever said

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Speaker 2: she was gonna go? Yes, I was gonna go, Deborah,

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Speaker 2: So you both missed out, that's right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but you know I kicked myself in the ass.

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Speaker 7: I'd like to have seen that action, you know, I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't condone it, but I'd like to be around it,

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Speaker 7: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You'd like to watch. I like to watch. Your guy

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Speaker 1: likes to watch what do they call it? Voyeur? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm a voyeur with the crime.

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Speaker 7: But at Glendale Galleria, I saw probably ten different cops.

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Speaker 7: Cops with the dog with the canine were there, and

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Speaker 7: cops were walking around everywhere. So I have a theory

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Speaker 7: that they knew something was going to go on in

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Speaker 7: a big mall, they just didn't know which one.

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Speaker 2: Uh that's possible, Yeah, because that because because Carrisso's Americana

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Speaker 2: a series of them and it's the same guys, right,

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Speaker 2: but they but the cops inside the mall at Glendale

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Speaker 2: would have been uh doing their job well, serving the

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Speaker 7: Everybody was pissed off. Everybody honking and swearing and you

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Speaker 7: know that kind of thing. It was wild.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 7: Steve Gregory is coming on tonight, that guy's Uh, we're

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Speaker 7: gonna talk about the the Maui wildfire.

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Speaker 1: I still can't get over that. I mean, it still

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Speaker 1: bothers me to the core.

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Speaker 7: Whatever I see those pictures, I go right into radical depression,

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Speaker 7: radical depression.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And then we have a fifty year old battle for

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Speaker 7: a public beach in public beach access, I should say,

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Speaker 7: in Malibu. We'll discuss that, and and then we have

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Speaker 7: back to school for.

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Speaker 1: A lot of kids here. Back to school. Timeway coming up.

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