Speaker 1: Hello, folks, it is Lyle.
Speaker 2: This is just a quick intro to this episode, letting
Speaker 2: you know that it was recorded in real life. That's right,
Speaker 2: in real life in Washington Square Park in New York City.
Speaker 2: I did some interviews with some folks. We got to
Speaker 2: talk to a lot of people. It was really great.
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy it, and please let me know
Speaker 2: in the comments if you like these kinds of episodes,
Speaker 2: because personally, for me, they're my favorite kind to do.
Speaker 2: I love getting to chat with people. I felt like
Speaker 2: the energy was really there. It was really fun. And
Speaker 2: that's it. This is me recording out a intro. There's
Speaker 2: gonna be another intro of me talking while I'm actually
Speaker 2: in the park. I don't know why I'm doubling up
Speaker 2: on the intros or even why I'm still talking right now.
Speaker 2: Let's get in to the episode. This is being a
Speaker 2: Gecko in the Park. Okay, Hello, listeners of the Therapy
Speaker 2: Gecko podcast and watchers of videos on the internet. We
Speaker 2: are here today in Washington Square Park because, uh well,
Speaker 2: folks who listen to the podcast know that all I've
Speaker 2: been talking about is existential dread and going insane. And
Speaker 2: I actually figured out guys, get this. I figured out
Speaker 2: the solution to going insane and you and you folks
Speaker 2: aren't gonna believe it. But all you have to do
Speaker 2: is go outside. It's all you have to do. Go outside,
Speaker 2: touch some grass. So I'm here.
Speaker 1: I feel great, I feel amazing.
Speaker 2: Washington Square Park is one of my favorite places that
Speaker 2: I have that I have been in my adventures around
Speaker 2: the planet. There's all kinds of people here, all living
Speaker 2: their own individual lives, and it's a sunny day out
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna I'm gonna chat with some people, so
Speaker 2: let's do that. This is being a gecko in the park.
Speaker 2: Can you tell us your.
Speaker 1: Name, ma'am?
Speaker 2: Yes hi, I'm Tabitha, Tabitha. Nice to meet you, Tabitha.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 2: How you doing. How's life good?
Speaker 3: Good? Beautiful? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What brings you to the park today?
Speaker 4: I am here with a group that does arts ministry.
Speaker 1: What is arts ministry?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So it's artists who love Jesus and are committed to
Speaker 4: loving the people in art in the city for him,
Speaker 4: like in his name.
Speaker 2: So you know what's funny is okay? On the last
Speaker 2: episode of the podcast, we had another guy who wanted
Speaker 2: to talk about Jesus, but he was he was a
Speaker 2: dick about it. You seem way nicer.
Speaker 6: Than he does.
Speaker 2: When did you? And I'm actually, I'm I'm open minded
Speaker 2: to these things because it's very hard to find direction
Speaker 2: in life, and it seems like something that gives people
Speaker 2: a lot of direction in life.
Speaker 1: So when did you find Jesus?
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a great question.
Speaker 4: I actually found Jesus because my parents dragged me to
Speaker 4: church as a small child.
Speaker 2: Uh, mixed bag.
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily advocate for dragging your children places.
Speaker 2: Really against their will. Really, okay, I mean that's a
Speaker 2: good thing. That's a good thing to advocate against. When like,
Speaker 2: do you remember early days when you were in church
Speaker 2: as a child? Were you bored? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I fell asleep a lot. My mom is she's got
Speaker 4: really soft arms. I love you, mommy, if you ever
Speaker 4: see this, And so I would just fall asleep on
Speaker 4: her arm.
Speaker 2: Our church. I think was also aware that there.
Speaker 4: Were children there consistently because we had crosswords and word
Speaker 4: searches in the back of the bullet O.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, did anything stuck in your head, like were
Speaker 2: there any sermons that got into your head that you
Speaker 2: were like, all right, I'm kind of vibing with this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was more Sunday school. It was
Speaker 4: more the time geared towards kiddos where I got to see, Oh,
Speaker 4: Jesus is cool and like he doesn't necessarily want me
Speaker 4: to dress up in things that like choke me on
Speaker 4: Sunday mornings and go sit and fall asleep in church
Speaker 4: for two hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he does like want to talk to me
Speaker 2: about stuff. What do you talk to Jesus about everything? Oh?
Speaker 2: My god, is there any topics off? Have you ever
Speaker 2: started talking to him? And He's like, keep that one
Speaker 2: to yourself.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Never.
Speaker 4: In fact, it's scary to me how much I can
Speaker 4: just hear him say yeah, keep going cool, that's.
Speaker 2: What I want. Okay.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like and he withholds judgment?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: That's thing.
Speaker 4: It's not even that he withholds judgment so much as
Speaker 4: I feel so clearly his love.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: I think our best friends, like in the world aren't
Speaker 4: people that would let us go like smoke crack on
Speaker 4: a Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Hope. So so if like, so, I know Jesus is non judgmental,
Speaker 2: But if you told if you were talking to Jesus, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: and you were like, I have this deep compulsion. Something
Speaker 2: about the air on this brisk Saturday afternoon is making
Speaker 2: me want to smoke crack.
Speaker 3: What would he say?
Speaker 1: Would he be like, what's a good friend say to that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think if I could, in this moment be Jesus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please Lord, uh please be Jesus.
Speaker 4: I would say, maybe what's wrong?
Speaker 3: Do you need help?
Speaker 4: Do we need to have a conversation. We can go
Speaker 4: somewhere and eat some food and talk about it. Crack
Speaker 4: isn't the answer. Crack is whack, as Whitney would say. Yeah,
Speaker 4: though her action, never mind, let's not talk about Whitney.
Speaker 1: My bad Whitney. Yeah, she was into crack.
Speaker 3: She was.
Speaker 2: You ever see that this isn't popp But if you
Speaker 2: ever see someone on crack and they a little like, Okay,
Speaker 2: here's the thing about crack is obviously we all know
Speaker 2: that crack is a like is a long term bad play.
Speaker 2: But if you're looking to have a phenomenal fit, if
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a great life, you stay away from it.
Speaker 2: I have an awesome ten minutes. Yeah, it looks like
Speaker 2: it could be fun for those ten minutes.
Speaker 4: So I went to a Christian college who won't name it.
Speaker 4: But I literally had a professor who we were talking
Speaker 4: about like really old people that would come speak at
Speaker 4: the college. And there's one guy who passed away like
Speaker 4: in the last five years, who was like ninety eight
Speaker 4: when he passed whoa and like around his ninety fifth
Speaker 4: birthday that the university was celebrating. This professor was like
Speaker 4: just in confidence with the students, said, you know, if
Speaker 4: I was his age, you know, I'd wake up and
Speaker 4: I'd try crack because.
Speaker 2: Okay it yeah, you know, yeah, no, it's wait, is
Speaker 2: that you though? Which so if you if you turn
Speaker 2: ninety eight, are you gonna are you gonna do heroin?
Speaker 3: You don't know.
Speaker 2: About trying heroin.
Speaker 4: I feel like by the time I get to ninety eight,
Speaker 4: it's almost like a sense of I've seen so much
Speaker 4: and I've done so many things.
Speaker 2: Do I really want to try the heroine?
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe the horse will be for me when I
Speaker 4: turned ninety three?
Speaker 2: But oh rhyme, maybe the horse will be for me
Speaker 2: when I turned ninety three. That sounds like something from
Speaker 2: like a Bob Dylan song. Cannot confirm what So we
Speaker 2: talked a little bit before you came on on camera.
Speaker 2: You're not from New York, right, I'm not.
Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you where are you from?
Speaker 1: And what are you doing in town?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So I am from San Antonio, Texas. Cool so very
Speaker 4: much deep south central oh Texas, Praise God. But I
Speaker 4: am here with this group and one of the things
Speaker 4: that they want to do and encourage other artists to
Speaker 4: do is be.
Speaker 2: I would say, salt and light.
Speaker 4: That's very Jesus Bible centered, Bible dog whistle if you will,
Speaker 4: But be Sultan light in their artists community wherever they're from.
Speaker 2: And how does like, logistically speaking, how does one be
Speaker 2: Sultan light?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I would say it looks like being a
Speaker 4: safe person to bring hard questions.
Speaker 1: To a safe person to bring hard questions too. Yeah, love,
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 4: That's great and a safe place to grieve, yeah, and
Speaker 4: to mourn.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was talking to your bosom buddy over there, buddy,
Speaker 4: Oh my god, we're angry doggo but and we just
Speaker 4: talked about how you guys have been in the arts
Speaker 4: communist community since you were small.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and from a from behind the camera, we've
Speaker 2: we've been making movies together since at least twelve years
Speaker 2: ago something like that twelve, thirteen, fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've been we've been at it for a while.
Speaker 2: So what we were.
Speaker 4: Talking about is I asked him if his experience of
Speaker 4: the arts community theory or I keep mixing community and
Speaker 4: ministry but we're gonna stick to community of arts was
Speaker 4: positive or negative, because depending on the vein that you're
Speaker 4: in and the place that you're in in that arts community,
Speaker 4: it can be really detrimental, really poisonous almost. I'm a
Speaker 4: musician by trade and training, and musicians can be really
Speaker 4: harsh and mean. I think anytime there is a space
Speaker 4: where you're asked and responsible for bringing a gift that
Speaker 4: comes from inside of you, there's such an insecurity and
Speaker 4: some people can turn towards to be frank, bullying and
Speaker 4: putting people down to make themselves feel worthy for.
Speaker 6: The gift that been given.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think my experience with arts ministry in
Speaker 4: that space has been just communicating you are enough, like
Speaker 4: this gift is beautiful, not because it's better than anybody else's,
Speaker 4: but because it's a gift.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question, what do you what's
Speaker 2: your opinion? Okay, so you're familiar with the tortured artist trope, right,
Speaker 2: and people, there's a lot of people out there who
Speaker 2: their whole thing is they they have made a successful
Speaker 2: career out of hating themselves into being better.
Speaker 1: And I look, I've I've fell victim to that.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people that's their modest OPERENDI
Speaker 2: is like, if I keep hating myself and I keep
Speaker 2: believing I'm not enough, I will that's gonna motivate me,
Speaker 2: propel me for and like, look, undenial, you cannot deny
Speaker 2: it as part.
Speaker 1: Of the hero's journey.
Speaker 2: That has is part of the hero's journey. It has
Speaker 2: resulted in a lot of great art. But you seem
Speaker 2: as though you seem like a person who comes at
Speaker 2: these things from a much more positive place. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: how how how does what do you think about the
Speaker 2: sort of tortured artist way of doing things? And and
Speaker 2: and maybe somebody who's listening who does who tries to
Speaker 2: hate themselves into submission? What would you say to them
Speaker 2: about perhaps an alternative path?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, You're loved and you're beautiful just
Speaker 4: the way that you are. I would say that that
Speaker 4: is absolutely normal. It is absolutely normal to experience self
Speaker 4: deprecating thoughts to experience the deep and abiding insecurity that, yeah,
Speaker 4: would cause you to hate your own experience because it hurts.
Speaker 4: You're not crazy, Yeah, you're not so broken that you
Speaker 4: won't find community. But I would say that from a
Speaker 4: Jesus perspective, here it goes, here, it goes. That's not
Speaker 4: what he wants, that's not why he gave you that gift.
Speaker 4: He gave you the gift to enjoy and to be enjoyed.
Speaker 4: And hopefully you find a community where that is your experience.
Speaker 4: Even if you don't agree with Jesus as a whole
Speaker 4: or Christianity.
Speaker 2: I'll get it. Sure. Well here's well, here's the funny
Speaker 2: thing is when you say, because like a lot of
Speaker 2: these like tenants and values, even if you you know
Speaker 2: you're an atheist and you don't necessarily believe in, like,
Speaker 2: you know, a god or spirituality, you can sub it
Speaker 2: in as like.
Speaker 1: That is good advice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, even if you don't like believe in Jesus,
Speaker 2: it is good advice to be like, hey, if you
Speaker 2: have a talent, you have a thing you like doing,
Speaker 2: it's okay to just enjoy doing it and enjoy the process.
Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, fucking hate yourself. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: because that's what whatever your idea of a higher power
Speaker 2: that exists in the universe wants. Yeah, you know, like
Speaker 2: even if you are the higher power, why would you
Speaker 2: want to hate yourself? Yeah, that's a good question. Yeah, Tabitha,
Speaker 2: I have I have one find a question for you.
Speaker 2: What do you think about bitcoin?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 2: Where does it go?
Speaker 4: And uh? And uh will it matter in twenty years?
Speaker 2: All great questions that perhaps one day we will find
Speaker 2: the answers to.
Speaker 1: Tabitha. Thank you very much for for chatting.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Have a good rest of the day. Appreciate Uh.
Speaker 2: Do you want to plug anything? You can plug as
Speaker 2: something if you want Jesus, plug Jesus. Where can we follow?
Speaker 2: Somebody has the Jesus Instagram handle right like?
Speaker 3: Is he?
Speaker 2: I have no idea? Is he honest?
Speaker 1: Someone?
Speaker 2: Dog is so cute. It's a cute dog. Sorry for
Speaker 2: the audio listeners, they can't see this dog. It's a
Speaker 2: precious it's it's it's covered in fluff, glitter, glitter. It's
Speaker 2: a good dog. Golden but yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tabitha.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Here we can fiss, We can fist mom by Tabitha Bye.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: That was a great conversation.
Speaker 2: It is funny for those who listen on the podcast
Speaker 2: because last we had a shout at Anthony, who I
Speaker 2: still believe in by the way, I know we got
Speaker 2: a lot of negative comments by Anthony. If you're watching this,
Speaker 2: I still believe in you. But it is nice to
Speaker 2: get some alternative perspectives on the same thing. All right,
Speaker 2: let's keep talking to folks. What's what's your name, Doug, Eli?
Speaker 2: How are you doing? Nice to meet you. What's uh?
Speaker 2: What's what's uh? What's going on?
Speaker 6: Eli?
Speaker 2: Has?
Speaker 1: What brings you to the park today?
Speaker 6: I don't know, Bro, I've just been here on a
Speaker 6: trip and we just happened to cross by. I don't
Speaker 6: even think we were supposed to be here. We just
Speaker 6: happened to come back to regroup with everyone. Like you
Speaker 6: can see behind the camera and.
Speaker 2: All that Oh people right, oh, who who who are
Speaker 2: all these people? Who's the for the those listening on
Speaker 2: audio or actually even on video, there's a group of
Speaker 2: about uh, this is not forty this is about twenty
Speaker 2: five people.
Speaker 1: Who are who are these people? Who are these folks?
Speaker 6: Friends? People that come to s with me? You know
Speaker 6: people that I like, I spend a lot of time
Speaker 6: with and all that.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 6: And my teachers, Oh your teacher?
Speaker 2: What what? What like level of school is this?
Speaker 6: Like tenth grade? It is like a charter school, right, yeah,
Speaker 6: charter school?
Speaker 2: Okay? And like so so you're so you're in tenth grade? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: how's house tenth grade? What's going on in the high
Speaker 2: school universe?
Speaker 6: Pretty true? You know, you's got to worry about your
Speaker 6: grades and all that. But and that's it's cool. It's cool.
Speaker 1: What do you have aspirations.
Speaker 2: For the future?
Speaker 6: What's an aspiration?
Speaker 1: And aspiration is like something you want to do, oh.
Speaker 6: Like hopefully go to college and all that, you know, cool,
Speaker 6: study for what I want to be in maybe like
Speaker 6: finances or like things like that.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: Do you want to make a lot of money?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah?
Speaker 2: What do you What do you do you have like
Speaker 2: a thing you want to buy more than anything else, or.
Speaker 6: Like a BMW you really want to buy?
Speaker 2: I buy a BMW?
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 2: What about what would you what would you do if
Speaker 2: you have like ten million dollars of your life quick?
Speaker 6: You know, first, I'd probably help on my people out.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be for real too nice, and then like
Speaker 6: after that will obviously there's gonna be something left. So
Speaker 6: I'm gonna worry about myself and just like preserve the
Speaker 6: rest of the money and how to like stay with
Speaker 6: the money, like more of it?
Speaker 2: Cool? Yeah, okay, I have a question. You You have
Speaker 2: a piece of paper in your hands. Oh yeah, can
Speaker 2: I see what this piece of paper is? I'm gonna
Speaker 2: read it. Oh, okay, this is pretty cool. Wanted for
Speaker 2: good behavior.
Speaker 6: Like the one I'm like the third one right there?
Speaker 2: Oh this is wait you're oh you're in this.
Speaker 1: This is a picture. What Okay?
Speaker 2: It says Washington Square wanted for good behavior?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: So that's you?
Speaker 1: You're wanted for good behavior?
Speaker 2: How did you? How did you? How did you get
Speaker 2: to become wanted for good behavior? What kind of good
Speaker 2: behavior have you've been?
Speaker 6: I don't know. I just try to be nicer to
Speaker 6: like everyone around me whenever they talk to me and
Speaker 6: all that.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 6: You know, positive energy, it needs to be spreaded a lot.
Speaker 1: Has does anyone ever push your buttons?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Like what does someone have to do to really get
Speaker 2: to you?
Speaker 6: Annoy me? Bug me? It's up in my shoes.
Speaker 2: I'm like that, okay, yeah, all right, well let's see
Speaker 2: I guess Oh, I'm sure I saw all these people here. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Why it's like noon, right, Why aren't you guys in class?
Speaker 6: Oh? This is a school field trip, like you know
Speaker 6: that they took us here like an educational thing, like
Speaker 6: a field lesson?
Speaker 1: Do I have to give you a permission slip to
Speaker 1: be on here?
Speaker 6: Do they have to?
Speaker 3: Well? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have that, so it's gonna have to.
Speaker 6: I was too late for that. I mean that, it's
Speaker 6: pretty cool, you know. It's it's like the second one
Speaker 6: I've really been on, because we did one last year.
Speaker 1: But where'd you go?
Speaker 2: You go to the Science Center.
Speaker 6: It was like an eighth grade and move into like
Speaker 6: Houston and San Antonio. It was pretty cool, like this
Speaker 6: and all cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you are you one of those people? It was
Speaker 2: my final question for you. Are you one of those folks?
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, I'm vibing with high school?
Speaker 1: Life's great?
Speaker 2: Or are you are you like I can't wait to
Speaker 2: get out of here and be like a real person.
Speaker 6: Really really, it's which is like it depends on what
Speaker 6: kind of mood them in Like sometimes I just I
Speaker 6: just like where I'm at right now, and then sometimes
Speaker 6: I just like worry about the future ahead you feel
Speaker 6: me and like I just want to get to the
Speaker 6: money really fast, you know. To me, it's like one
Speaker 6: of the more important things in my life.
Speaker 1: Get money into you into crypto.
Speaker 6: Nah, I am like, I don't know how I do
Speaker 6: know that. So like I'm not gonna do something I
Speaker 6: don't know.
Speaker 2: You know what I think based on what you just said,
Speaker 2: you have a strong financial future ahead of you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So like, but do you like live here in New York?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, yeah, I live here.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm here, sometimes I'm in various deserts, forests and
Speaker 2: coal mountain slopes.
Speaker 6: So you travel, Yeah, I've traveled.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 6: It's like so it's like it's like this everywhere you go.
Speaker 1: Uh what do you mean like this?
Speaker 6: Or like you just set up the on your like
Speaker 6: bow yeaes up.
Speaker 1: Chairs, chat with people, hang out.
Speaker 2: It's just nice to I swear in my life, I'm
Speaker 2: just doing I don't know why I need to do
Speaker 2: so much to just like I'm mainly just doing this
Speaker 2: to get out of the house.
Speaker 6: Like why you got like strict rules in your house
Speaker 6: or like, what's what's a strict.
Speaker 1: Rules in the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's just if I'm in the house for
Speaker 2: too long, I start to I start to melt, you know,
Speaker 2: I start to spiral, think about crazy shit. Dude, Yesterday
Speaker 2: I was yesterday, I was just thinking I was. I
Speaker 2: was in my house for too long. I started thinking
Speaker 2: about it. I started wondering whether or not my dad
Speaker 2: was real.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, every thinking about crazy stuff. I kind of
Speaker 6: have that problem too, you know. You know, need you
Speaker 6: like do something with your selfie for me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, or else just start questioning reality. But listen,
Speaker 2: I want you to right now about seventy I'm at
Speaker 2: least seventy eight percent sure that this is all real
Speaker 2: right now, And that's pretty good. And I appreciate you
Speaker 2: sitting down and chat with me. What's your name one
Speaker 2: more time? Eli, Eluys or anything else you want to
Speaker 2: say to the people in the computer before we go.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be on TikTok and all that.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, I might, I might not do it.
Speaker 2: I might just I might never post this. No, I'm
Speaker 2: probably gonna post it on as a podcast and stuff.
Speaker 2: Why you want to just try and shut yourself out
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 6: I just want to be on TikTok so like people
Speaker 6: can see me. I'll be cool.
Speaker 2: You on YouTube?
Speaker 6: Yeah, YouTube, YouTube school too?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Like that cool?
Speaker 1: All right, all right, take care of your life.
Speaker 2: Bye bye.
Speaker 1: How's it going?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 1: What's up? What's your name?
Speaker 7: Trinity?
Speaker 1: Trinity? It's a wonderful name. Trinity Rain. What's up, Trinity Rain?
Speaker 2: What Trinity Rain? I got a question for you. Okay,
Speaker 2: what's one of the most persistent thought on your mind lately?
Speaker 2: What have you been thinking about?
Speaker 7: If there's life on other planets?
Speaker 8: Yeah, and if they're aware of us, or if it
Speaker 8: mimics what we do in our daily lives, if they're
Speaker 8: just aliens and I don't know, they don't care.
Speaker 2: Have you come to any hypotheses conclusions on this.
Speaker 8: I do believe that there's life on other planets, but
Speaker 8: I don't know if they're aware of us and they
Speaker 8: just think we're so minimalistic they don't care to interact,
Speaker 8: or if they also aren't aware and don't have the
Speaker 8: means of reaching out to us.
Speaker 2: I was reading an article once and it said something
Speaker 2: that kind of blew my mind.
Speaker 1: It was like, even if there is like life.
Speaker 2: Like consciousness is like a spectrum, and so we aren't
Speaker 2: like the final most conscious beings on earth, but and
Speaker 2: we but we're on a spectrum, which means that like
Speaker 2: we're more conscious than a chicken. Right, But there almost
Speaker 2: inevitably exists something that's more conscious than us, but we
Speaker 2: can't understand them anymore than like a chicken can understand
Speaker 2: the context of our world. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 7: Very crazy?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 7: What do you believe? Are you an atheist?
Speaker 2: I don't know if I like, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I think I was like, yeah, we're just
Speaker 2: all going on the ground and whatever.
Speaker 1: There's too much that I've accepted.
Speaker 2: There's too much that I don't know to make a
Speaker 2: claim of any kind. So I'm just gonna, you know,
Speaker 2: be a gecko and m h run around. I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna try to do my best on this whatever I'm
Speaker 2: experiencing right now. But I was thinking, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, we just go in the ground and that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but consciousness is a trip, it is, and there's got there.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if there was something more to it.
Speaker 2: But there's also I was dead for most of a life,
Speaker 2: and I'll be dead for most of eternity. But maybe
Speaker 2: you know, the whole like and I'm going on such
Speaker 2: a rant right now, but the whole like energy can't
Speaker 2: be created or destroyed. So like maybe I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe I'll maybe I'll be a Maybe I'll be like
Speaker 2: one of the trees at the Rainforest Cafe that talks,
Speaker 2: you know, the one I'm talking about with the eyes.
Speaker 7: I think I'm thinking too small.
Speaker 8: I think there's maybe a whole other planet filled with
Speaker 8: geckos who are waiting for you to come back home.
Speaker 8: And that's where you departed from, oh Man, because I
Speaker 8: questioned what made you want to be a gecko in
Speaker 8: the first place?
Speaker 2: Uh, well today, maybe want to be a gecko was
Speaker 2: to have fun, get out of the house and chat
Speaker 2: with folks and feel great. You know?
Speaker 7: Is that what you want your legacy to be? Essentially?
Speaker 2: You just I'm not obsessed with legacy because legacy is
Speaker 2: like no one cares really about anyone or anything.
Speaker 1: Even people who have legacy like Abraham.
Speaker 2: How many times a year do you think about Abraham Lincoln?
Speaker 8: I had a seventh grade teacher who made me memorize
Speaker 8: like four scorn of years ago, the Gettysburg Address, the
Speaker 8: getty Burg Address, and I had to perform in front
Speaker 8: of the class, So you and that.
Speaker 2: But since that's subjective. Since then, how many times a
Speaker 2: day do you think about Abraham Lincoln?
Speaker 7: Zero?
Speaker 1: Zero? Nobody gives no, one really gives a shit about him.
Speaker 7: That's very true.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows who he is vaguely, but nobody really. So
Speaker 2: his legacy didn't I'm not gonna say Abraham Lincoln didn't matter.
Speaker 2: He did some stuff, but like, you can't be thinking
Speaker 2: too much about how people are gonna think about you
Speaker 2: when you're gone, because ultimately, nobody's really thinking about you
Speaker 2: at all. Ever, even if you're Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what are you gonna do? You're gone?
Speaker 2: Gone?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: What do you do here in New York?
Speaker 7: I'm studying film and television?
Speaker 2: Oh, I studied film and television?
Speaker 7: Really film major?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yeah. Are you not to put a damper
Speaker 2: on anything? But are you afraid of graduation?
Speaker 8: I guess so in a sense, yes, But I'd rather
Speaker 8: do what I love, you know, than succumb to a
Speaker 8: job that I hate clocking into every day, because I
Speaker 8: feel like I would just end my shit.
Speaker 7: So I'd rather be happy, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Struggling, what what do you want to do? What's your
Speaker 2: dream film thing?
Speaker 8: Writing, directing, character driven dramas, things like that. But I
Speaker 8: really like studying people, characters, things like that. I feel
Speaker 8: like life imitates art. You know, you and yourself are
Speaker 8: a character. You know, And I have a question for you.
Speaker 8: Because break out from getting the green face paint all
Speaker 8: the time?
Speaker 2: No, I break out from eating shitty. I break out
Speaker 2: from having McDonald's every day. I don't break that makeup
Speaker 2: is There's a lot of variables as to why I
Speaker 2: might have acne, and I'm going to say that the
Speaker 2: makeup is not part of it.
Speaker 1: Not part of it.
Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, good to know, appreciate that.
Speaker 2: What's uh, what's it like being at NYU?
Speaker 3: Is there?
Speaker 1: Like, how's the community, how's the film scene?
Speaker 7: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 8: I'm very grateful to even be there, especially because, like
Speaker 8: I have a scholarship. But that does make me feel
Speaker 8: like certain people I can't mesh with because they're in
Speaker 8: a completely different tax.
Speaker 7: Bracket than me. So oh okay, I just like sitting
Speaker 7: back and observing sometimes.
Speaker 2: You know, do they make you watch because all right,
Speaker 2: I went to a film school, and I had a
Speaker 2: professor at film school who was I think he was
Speaker 2: about ninety eight years old and still around. He was like, okay,
Speaker 2: everyone watch, Uh, we're gonna watch Birth of a Nation
Speaker 2: by something Griffith. I think, okay, And we're all sitting
Speaker 2: there like, what the fuck are we paying tens of
Speaker 2: thousands of dollars? Like what are we doing here?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And is it still like that? Is it still like
Speaker 2: everyone's like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Certain times I remember vividly last semester we watched like
Speaker 8: a three hour film in a foreign language with no subtitles,
Speaker 8: and we were supposed to focus on the camera work,
Speaker 8: but I just had this moment of like.
Speaker 7: What am I watching? Why am I here?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 7: Would I be better somewhere else?
Speaker 3: You know? Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you from New York?
Speaker 7: Would you guess that?
Speaker 2: But vibe?
Speaker 7: Do I give region?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess. I wouldn't be surprised if you. Oh wait,
Speaker 2: you're wearing an NFL hat of some kind? Is that
Speaker 2: the Broncos?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 1: I don't know? From Denver? Denver rocks Man. It was
Speaker 1: a good time.
Speaker 7: Yeah you've ever been?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been I go to I've pretty much been
Speaker 2: to Denver like four or five times. I've done like
Speaker 2: some shows there. I've gone there just to hang out.
Speaker 2: And I've probably talked about this on the podcast before,
Speaker 2: but the first time I went to Denver, I stayed
Speaker 2: at the most awesome Airbnb of all time.
Speaker 1: It was called Yeah, it was called Hostile Cush.
Speaker 2: And it's like if the guy who sold you weed
Speaker 2: in high school turned his house into a hotel nice
Speaker 2: and you're just like in a basement with a bunch
Speaker 2: of people like smoking blunts inside.
Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome. Yeah, shout out Hostel Cush.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're still around, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: what uh?
Speaker 1: What's what are you do?
Speaker 2: You miss Denver?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 8: No, no, I missed the mountains, but I feel like
Speaker 8: I like New York a lot better. Yeah, there's more
Speaker 8: for me here, I would say, but that's subjective.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's less isolation.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, there's more community here.
Speaker 9: I would say, that's cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're making friends in college.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm trying to say yes and succeeding.
Speaker 2: Have you met any enemies?
Speaker 6: Mmm?
Speaker 8: Maybe, I don't know if they would call me their enemy,
Speaker 8: but there are some people who I'm like, Okay, you
Speaker 8: were raised very differently than I will.
Speaker 2: Okay, but have you felt like, have you felt the
Speaker 2: presence of any shade?
Speaker 7: Have you felt as though the presence of shade?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 7: Yes I have, Yes, I have.
Speaker 2: And you know, like we're not naming names, we're not
Speaker 2: getting specific, but what is it that makes you feel
Speaker 2: a shade?
Speaker 8: I feel like people see me and they might assume
Speaker 8: that I'm less competent than them because I'm in a
Speaker 8: different tax bracket, or because I'm a girl, or because
Speaker 8: you know, I'm black, And I feel like, I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't want to think too much into it, so
Speaker 8: I try not to read into it. But I do
Speaker 8: feel like some people like mansplain certain things to me
Speaker 8: and they're.
Speaker 7: Like, well, yeah, the Matrix was a movie centered around
Speaker 7: and I'm like, my name is Trinity. Like I've seen
Speaker 7: the Matrix before, Like you.
Speaker 2: Know, I saw the Western name meaning Trinity. I mean
Speaker 2: I've never seen the Matrix. By the way, is there
Speaker 2: a character in a name Trinity?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 8: Okay, So a lot of film bros associate my name
Speaker 8: with the Matrix and then they try to man explain
Speaker 8: certain things to me.
Speaker 7: But I don't know. I don't take that is necessarily offensive.
Speaker 2: What's going on with the film bros?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 1: Who are the film bros? These days?
Speaker 7: What's going on with the film bros? That's a great
Speaker 7: question that I might want.
Speaker 2: What's their movie? Because I had a big I was
Speaker 2: a film bro. I had a big poster of pulp
Speaker 2: fiction in my uh, in my dorm room.
Speaker 7: So your descendants are still active today?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 2: And there are we still worshiping pulp fiction, Quentin, it's
Speaker 2: the post They're still around. Yes, have you been in
Speaker 2: a dorm room and seen pulp fiction posters? I have?
Speaker 1: That makes me as happy as it makes me sad.
Speaker 7: Really, you're a pulp fiction fan.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it in a long time, but you know,
Speaker 2: it's a good It was kind of fun to have
Speaker 2: it be like my identity for a little bit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Pulp Fiction, American Psycho fight Club. Those are the
Speaker 8: top three film bro fanatic.
Speaker 1: Do you do you fuck with those movies?
Speaker 7: I mean they're not.
Speaker 8: Bad, but I don't worship them. I don't have them
Speaker 8: printed out on every side of my dorm room.
Speaker 2: To do you have a movie or a thing printed
Speaker 2: out on every side of your dorm room.
Speaker 8: No, but I do like Sean Baker the Florida Project, Anora.
Speaker 8: I like that sort of genre of filmmaking.
Speaker 1: But cool, cool, all right, final final.
Speaker 2: Thing, finally answer, what's do you have a movie in
Speaker 2: the works? M if people? What's you had? Two named
Speaker 2: Trinity Trinity Rain?
Speaker 1: So if people people are good?
Speaker 2: This is the first appearance of the of the to
Speaker 2: be famous film director Trinity Rain.
Speaker 1: What uh what? What's?
Speaker 2: What's what's the what's the idea that people can be
Speaker 2: excited to see you on the screen from you soon? Well?
Speaker 7: I write and direct.
Speaker 8: I really like, you know, character driven dramas, and I'm
Speaker 8: just casting people all over from New York.
Speaker 7: You don't have to act.
Speaker 8: I love people who actually emit the character that I'm writing.
Speaker 8: So sometimes I might make a film and write a
Speaker 8: certain character into it. But I mean, am I okay
Speaker 8: to plug my Instagram?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Go plug away, go crazy.
Speaker 7: Trin two like the number two cosmic trind to cosmic
Speaker 7: on Instagram if you care. My page is not as
Speaker 7: cool as the real geck go.
Speaker 2: You gotta get and I by the hold on, I'm
Speaker 2: about to give really hypocritical advice Okay, I'm listening, but
Speaker 2: you gotta get a less fucked up user name because
Speaker 2: once you because once you start having to be like,
Speaker 2: it's Trinity with uh, there's a period here, and there's
Speaker 2: two and there's an underscore.
Speaker 1: Mine is Lyle for I always have to go It's
Speaker 1: Lyle forever.
Speaker 9: But the four is a four?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, but throws them off a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is Trinity Grace taken?
Speaker 8: I keep saying to get that today every variation is taken.
Speaker 8: There's one girl who has Trinity Rain, but she hasn't
Speaker 8: been active in like five ten years. So I wanted
Speaker 8: to find her business email and be like, I will
Speaker 8: cash at you just for the rights to that user name.
Speaker 7: She's gone. She's a ghost.
Speaker 1: Hey what about Rain Wilson.
Speaker 7: Rain Wilson, Where does the Wilson come from?
Speaker 1: Let you know, from the office?
Speaker 7: Ah? Maybe? But is that impostor?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 7: Am I impersonating? Would you think? Because that's not me?
Speaker 7: I'm not Wilson. What do you think My last question
Speaker 7: for you? What do you think my suld be?
Speaker 2: What I think your name should be? Trinity Rain Wilson.
Speaker 2: I bet that's not taken. I bet that's not taken.
Speaker 2: I bet Trinity Rain Wilson is not all right, so
Speaker 2: you can follow her on Trinity tea Trinity but with
Speaker 2: two's instead of the entities. Yes, or and if she's
Speaker 2: not there, maybe she changed it to Trinity.
Speaker 7: Rain will Wilson. I'll let you know.
Speaker 3: Rain.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much by Trinity Raim of course.
Speaker 3: Have a seat.
Speaker 2: Hello, sir, have a seat, Have a seat. What is
Speaker 2: your name?
Speaker 3: My name is Sava.
Speaker 2: Sava. Yeah, what what's the origin of that?
Speaker 3: It's from Serbia. I'm from Serbia.
Speaker 1: Oh cool?
Speaker 2: Are were you born there? Uh?
Speaker 3: No, I was born in Florida. My parents are Serbian.
Speaker 1: O savak you a favorite hold it like a little
Speaker 1: bit closer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I moved to Serbia when I was
Speaker 3: nine years old.
Speaker 1: What's lifelike in Serbia?
Speaker 3: Uh, It's really good. It's actually very peaceful. Right now,
Speaker 3: we're having some problems with corruption. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: protest going on, okay, but usually it's very nice.
Speaker 2: Actually, so I guess coming from I'm curious about this,
Speaker 2: Not to get into a bunch of shit, but I
Speaker 2: am curious coming from a place that is having like
Speaker 2: its own issues with like corruption and the government and
Speaker 2: like protests and stuff. Do you look at America like
Speaker 2: that's nothing, or do you look at America like, oh,
Speaker 2: you guys, I see what's some shit's going down?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's shit going down here. I think
Speaker 3: think the difference is here they do it somehow, like legally,
Speaker 3: let's say, for example, lobbying. Yeah, it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: a corporation sponsors a politician to push their agenda. Whereas
Speaker 3: there it's like, you know, a guy pays the guy
Speaker 3: under the table so he can illegally construct a building
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 2: So we're doing the same thing that's going on in Serbia,
Speaker 2: but we're doing it. We've created a system where it's legal.
Speaker 3: In a way. Yeah, I would say that, Yeah, what.
Speaker 1: Brought you here to the States?
Speaker 3: I came here for modeling and acting.
Speaker 2: Modeling and acting, Yes, sir, Okay, that's pretty cool. What
Speaker 2: how's the modeling industry?
Speaker 3: It's good, the modeling industry, it's it's interesting. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: guess it varies from different perspectives. I would say that
Speaker 3: I didn't really like if I could put it in
Speaker 3: two ways, there's the guy who wanted to be or
Speaker 3: girl who wanted to be a model, and then so
Speaker 3: they take it very serious. And then there's also the
Speaker 3: ones that got stopped on the street and kind of
Speaker 3: got into it, and then they don't take it as serious.
Speaker 2: And which one is you?
Speaker 3: The second one?
Speaker 1: Second one? Okay, see one doesn't take it as serious.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like you can see in the face, Like
Speaker 2: you can see in the face of the model who's
Speaker 2: the most serious. Because if someone's doing like a real
Speaker 2: serious model face, like they're opposing for Vogue or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but like if someone like like I was in Target
Speaker 2: and the people wearing those clothes they're just laughing, you
Speaker 2: can tell they're having a good time. I know it's
Speaker 2: posed that way, but I do still believe that they're
Speaker 2: just they just were having a good time when they
Speaker 2: were smiling and laughing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, my target pay is probably much higher than
Speaker 3: those high fashioned brands pay. Surprisingly.
Speaker 1: What kind of who? What kind of like clients have
Speaker 1: you modeled for?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: I've modeled for a few. I'd say the one that
Speaker 3: I take the most pride in would be Polo. Ralph
Speaker 3: Lourenzo a model for Polo. Yeah, did they give you
Speaker 3: free shit? Everybody asked that no free underwear? Because I
Speaker 3: came in boxers, and they were like, you know, you
Speaker 3: can't be wearing random boxers. So they give you, like,
Speaker 3: you know, polo underwear. But no, but the people who
Speaker 3: do work for them get a fifty percent discount. But
Speaker 3: but I technically am like a free lance so I
Speaker 3: technically don't.
Speaker 2: So what's your hinge look like? Does a crash your
Speaker 2: phone every time you open it?
Speaker 3: Actually I haven't had hinge in a long time. I'm
Speaker 3: going to show you something I think you'll like this. Okay, please,
Speaker 3: this is my phone you have a clan.
Speaker 2: For for those on audio this this guy is a
Speaker 2: bedazzled flip phone. Wow.
Speaker 1: Holy shit?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 2: And that's what you've been rocking with. That's what I've
Speaker 2: been rocking with, the bedazzle flip phone.
Speaker 3: I think it's about four months now. I do. I
Speaker 3: don't want to, you know, say I don't have I
Speaker 3: do have an Android phone at home when I need
Speaker 3: to use Instagram and stuff like that, I still have it.
Speaker 3: But this is what I carry around for my everyday use. Wow.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and.
Speaker 2: So what made you decide to downgrade or get a
Speaker 2: second pune?
Speaker 3: I think, uh, the main thing was was actually a
Speaker 3: little bit of nostalgia because when I was younger in Serbia,
Speaker 3: I had a Nokia and I also been dazzled it,
Speaker 3: and I just kind of missed that era of when
Speaker 3: I was, when I was a kid and I didn't
Speaker 3: really care about about you know, those certain things. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and so I decided to go back to it. This
Speaker 3: one though, it has touch screen, it has Google Maps.
Speaker 3: What's up? An email? So I can still get my
Speaker 3: work done without you know, having to use a smartphone.
Speaker 2: That one has Google Maps.
Speaker 3: It does?
Speaker 2: It's that seems so annoying to use Google Map. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's type on it? Is it like you actually have
Speaker 2: to hit like one two three?
Speaker 3: You can do one two three. But it's touch screen
Speaker 3: as well, so you can you can do like the
Speaker 3: little keypad on the touch screen.
Speaker 2: But no Instagram, porn, no redit.
Speaker 3: Well you could probably watch porn on it, but it
Speaker 3: has Google but I personally don't watch porn on on
Speaker 3: my flip phone.
Speaker 2: Good for you, now, what how do you you do
Speaker 2: you feel because a lot of people they have the fear,
Speaker 2: myself included of like, okay, if I'm not carrying around
Speaker 2: my phone with me at all times, how am I
Speaker 2: going to be connected to the world.
Speaker 1: How do you But okay, so you have a skateboard, right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you so you're a skater, sir?
Speaker 2: Is the skate world just like if I show up
Speaker 2: to this physical location, I know that there will be
Speaker 2: friends and people like that.
Speaker 3: That is kind of exactly what it's what it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, shout out to skateboarding because wherever I've traveled
Speaker 3: in the world, if I brought my skateboard with me,
Speaker 3: I was able to meet a local person. I was
Speaker 3: able to be introduced to the culture, to the cool spots.
Speaker 3: And I think if I didn't have a skateboard, it
Speaker 3: would be harder to integrate into certain, you know, places
Speaker 3: when I visited them.
Speaker 2: So that's what you need.
Speaker 1: Everyone needs their metaphorical skateboard.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: You know that can kind of connect you wherever you
Speaker 2: go because whenever you're like, hobby is it's cool because
Speaker 2: it's I mean, most hobbies are kind of represented around
Speaker 2: the world, whether it's like fucking, you know, kickball or whatever,
Speaker 2: and you kind of find your way to pick your
Speaker 2: spots in it. What how long you've been skating for
Speaker 2: about eight years? How have you fucked You're gotten fucked up?
Speaker 3: I've gotten fucked up. Thank god, I haven't broken anything,
Speaker 3: but but yeah, I mean every single time I go out,
Speaker 3: I get a little fucked up. The worst thing so
Speaker 3: far I've got fucked up is my back. Yeah it's
Speaker 3: still a little bit fucked up now, but yeah, only
Speaker 3: only like twisted ankles where I'm out for like two
Speaker 3: months and stuff like that. But surprisingly it it's kind
Speaker 3: of nice. You know. It's when you fall, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's hard to explain it, but sometimes you're just so
Speaker 3: full of shit and you go out on your skateboard
Speaker 3: and it beats you up and it kind of puts
Speaker 3: you back in your place.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, have you've had that part where you're like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do everyone watch this, I'm gonna do a
Speaker 2: backflip and your skateboards like nope.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Usually it's when I see a group of
Speaker 3: cute girls, for example, and then and then it's I
Speaker 3: won't even try anything crazy, but you know, karma or
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it just just kicks in
Speaker 3: and then you just spill right in front of them
Speaker 3: and then kind of get a little embarrassed and put
Speaker 3: in your place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how's your dating life in New York.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not that good.
Speaker 1: No, are you, like, are you going on dates or anything?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been on it. Actually I was supposed to
Speaker 3: go on a date two days ago. It was a
Speaker 3: very nice date. We planned to go to the Botanical gardens, Wow,
Speaker 3: which are beautiful. I met the girl here in Washington
Speaker 3: Square Park and last minute she did this weird thing.
Speaker 3: She sent me a message. She said, let's play a
Speaker 3: game with the universe. Are you ready for this? Play
Speaker 3: a game with the universe. We're not going to go
Speaker 3: on the date tomorrow, but if we see each other
Speaker 3: again in the streets, then it's meant to be. And
Speaker 3: I was, you know, I tried to take it like
Speaker 3: like she was trying to be cool, but then somebody
Speaker 3: told me no, she just didn't know how to like
Speaker 3: say no, so she she used that excuse. I don't
Speaker 3: know which one it is.
Speaker 2: That's that's an awesome line. Yeah, let's play a game
Speaker 2: with the universe. If we see each other again, it's
Speaker 2: meant to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's gonna get fucked because what if she
Speaker 1: sees you again? Yeah, let's play another another game. We
Speaker 1: see each other a third time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm wearing a pink.
Speaker 1: Hat, and I happen to be wearing a pink hat, and.
Speaker 3: Then it's meant to be. Yeah, I don't know. But
Speaker 3: then my friend he told me, he said, you should
Speaker 3: value yourself and not really let it get to And
Speaker 3: then he came last minute, he clocked out of his job.
Speaker 3: Shout out, rafa. He clocked out of his job and
Speaker 3: came with me to the botanical gardens. So I didn't
Speaker 3: go alone because I bought the tickets and everything.
Speaker 2: So wow, you got, you got, dude. The scre is
Speaker 2: he's a skater, skater, skate community. It seems like it
Speaker 2: looks out for each other.
Speaker 3: We do, We try to, you know, I mean, as
Speaker 3: in every community. Sometimes you know, you get you get
Speaker 3: a douchebag here and there, but but mostly we're cool
Speaker 3: guys who kind of you know, you know. There's it's nice.
Speaker 6: It's nice.
Speaker 2: So I'll ask you a couple more questions before you
Speaker 2: get out of here. What's your what's your dream in life?
Speaker 3: Sir?
Speaker 2: What do you want to do with yourself?
Speaker 3: Well, actually I was listening to the last girl. I
Speaker 3: also want to do writing and and make a movie.
Speaker 3: It's kind of my dream let's just say, make one movie.
Speaker 2: One movie. Yeah, they're actually are you familiar with the movie?
Speaker 2: A serbian film?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, don't ever watch that. Don't ever watch
Speaker 3: that movie. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, you can make.
Speaker 1: A serbian film too, and it's just people hugging.
Speaker 2: For an hour and a half.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a really good idea actually, because you know,
Speaker 3: if you can imagine the opposite of people hugging for
Speaker 3: an hour and a half, that's kind of a good
Speaker 3: way to explain the.
Speaker 2: Opposite of people hugging for an hour and a half.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, in the worst type of a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: not a good not a good movie at all.
Speaker 6: But but yeah, nice man.
Speaker 2: Well, uh, let's see from how long have we been
Speaker 2: going for? Forty two?
Speaker 3: Okay, you got a time limit on this.
Speaker 2: No, I'm trying to get to an hour, I would say, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like I have more things I want to
Speaker 2: ask you.
Speaker 3: How about mom against marijuana? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, a mom a mom against marijuana.
Speaker 2: Are you a weed guy?
Speaker 3: You know, I smoke weed. Lately, I haven't been smoking
Speaker 3: as much because and this is a shared experience with
Speaker 3: a lot of people that I've heard is at one
Speaker 3: point it stopped making them feel giggly and happy and
Speaker 3: it started making them feel like paranoid and anxious. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You haven't gotten there yet.
Speaker 3: No. I did get there, which is why I took
Speaker 3: it down a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But for example, when it comes to things like writing, yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like it helps me sometimes real though, so
Speaker 3: I'll like, I'm more of a when I get home
Speaker 3: and I'm alone, I'll smoke a spliff and it helps you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sometimes that's really cool.
Speaker 2: When I was in high school and college and still
Speaker 2: a little bit now, I had because you see, like
Speaker 2: Seth Rogen and like Snoop Dogg and Kevin Smith and
Speaker 2: all these guys who and you have this thought in
Speaker 2: your head that's so dumb, where you're like, I'm going
Speaker 2: to get high and then I will magically and then
Speaker 2: because I got high, I will magically, effortless, effortlessly create
Speaker 2: something awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then you realize it doesn't it doesn't, yeah, And then
Speaker 2: you get high, you get anxious yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, or you know it's up there somewhere, but
Speaker 3: you can't write it out because you're just so high.
Speaker 3: It's just like you know, yeah, but it works, it works,
Speaker 3: it works. It works for me. It's more of a
Speaker 3: like to get that idea, where then when I actually
Speaker 3: want to get down and write, it's more like in
Speaker 3: the morning, drink of coffee and write it. But but
Speaker 3: for the idea, I like to get high your ear.
Speaker 2: Get high and model or you like, wy are my
Speaker 2: thumbs lately?
Speaker 3: No, When I was when I was younger, I would
Speaker 3: when I first got into it, I would smoke, like
Speaker 3: on the lunch break, I'd smoke a little split. But
Speaker 3: then again then it didn't hit me like that. Then
Speaker 3: it would just be like, you know, I would just
Speaker 3: kind of be there. It wasn't that bad. Now, I
Speaker 3: feel like if I were to get high at a job,
Speaker 3: I would definitely be like, you know, does this guy
Speaker 3: know I'm high? Am I doing something wrong? You know
Speaker 3: what I mean? I'd be way up in my head
Speaker 3: and it wouldn't be good at all.
Speaker 2: Where can the people? Where can the people find you?
Speaker 2: Do you want the people to find you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I guess you can find me. My name is
Speaker 3: Sava s A v A. My last my last name
Speaker 3: is kind of hard Suvacharov s u v A c
Speaker 3: A r O V and that's my Instagram, my modeling instagram.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, if you want to find me,
Speaker 3: you can. But I'm trying to actually do a transition
Speaker 3: to to writing and acting. So if you need an actor,
Speaker 3: you can find me. If you need a model, maybe
Speaker 3: you can find someone else.
Speaker 2: Well, well, what's your name?
Speaker 3: What's your name?
Speaker 2: I'm Lyle Lyle all right?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you said it when you said your Instagram name.
Speaker 2: You just said your name and I asked you I
Speaker 2: have I have pretty bad short term memory.
Speaker 3: You think it's from smoking weed?
Speaker 1: Probably?
Speaker 3: Probably? Yea, you ever did mushrooms before?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm trying to I'm trying to be just
Speaker 2: a coffee guy now. Yeah, coffee and uh Reese's cups.
Speaker 2: But that's it for me. Nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: Have a good rest of your entire life.
Speaker 3: Brother, you too.
Speaker 2: Let's see who wants to talk? Come sit down here,
Speaker 2: you have a seat you The people couldn't hear it,
Speaker 2: but she just said, oh my god, this is so fancy.
Speaker 10: I mean, I wasn't expecting like a whole setup.
Speaker 2: This is not I'm if if this is your I
Speaker 2: gotta say, if this is your, like, what's the word,
Speaker 2: what's the barometer for a fancy then you're gonna have
Speaker 2: an awesome life. You're you're easy to make happy, it
Speaker 2: would seem I appreciate that. What's your name, I'm Hannah,
Speaker 2: Hannah Lyleice to meet you. What's what's uh? What's the
Speaker 2: worst thing in the world right now? You think? What's
Speaker 2: what's horrible? What's horrible?
Speaker 7: I don't want to actually talk about it?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right?
Speaker 5: Probably politics?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, yeah, what's uh? What's going on with you?
Speaker 1: Hannah?
Speaker 10: I have a lot of mid terms this week, so
Speaker 10: I'm I'm I'm drowning in work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to do it?
Speaker 7: What midterms?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, I don't. I don't have to
Speaker 1: do anything.
Speaker 2: You don't have to do You don't have to do anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can just let you know. What I've always wondered
Speaker 2: is like, all right, you see like that spot over
Speaker 2: there about like sometimes I'll do that, but be like,
Speaker 2: how long could I just stand there before I'm physically removed?
Speaker 1: And then where are they going to.
Speaker 2: Physically How like if you decide to stiffen up, right,
Speaker 2: like eventually the police will come to move you or whatever,
Speaker 2: But then wherever they move you.
Speaker 1: What if you just stiffen up there?
Speaker 2: Like, how how long can you actually literally not do anything?
Speaker 1: I guess eventually you starve to death.
Speaker 7: But I guess so.
Speaker 10: But I guess that's what I'm kind of trying right
Speaker 10: now here, sitting with you instead of studying.
Speaker 2: So what what do you study?
Speaker 5: Economics?
Speaker 2: Okay? Are we fucked like from your like from like
Speaker 2: a text book and analysis? Because I've never read an
Speaker 2: economics textbook.
Speaker 10: Maybe in the like next decade, i'd say, I'm not
Speaker 10: gonna lie, I'm not I'm a sophomore.
Speaker 2: I don't know what. Okay, you think we're fucked for
Speaker 2: the next decade, but after that we'll be Okay, I'll
Speaker 2: keep I'll.
Speaker 10: Keep a pull, and I'm gonna i'll keep track of.
Speaker 1: What's going on into tariffs should we do tariffs?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 10: I heard that's a political tactic for Do you listen
Speaker 10: to the Daily?
Speaker 2: No, you should listen to the it's a political tactic. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so he so he's got a strategy.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's like I mean, it's like economics.
Speaker 2: Sorright, So he's not just he's not just doing random
Speaker 2: ship you think he's got like a plan.
Speaker 10: Well wait, I'm not I'm not sure. I'm not sure,
Speaker 10: but I listened to a good daily podcast about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's cool. We can just repeat what was
Speaker 2: going on on that podcast. I'm gonna spread misinformation, so
Speaker 2: that's okay. Look, this is the perfect podcast to spread
Speaker 2: misinformation on because anyone who takes any information from this
Speaker 2: show and then goes out and it's like I learned
Speaker 2: what tariffs are from the Talking Gecko Show, It's like.
Speaker 1: All right, well you fucked yourself.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I really don't.
Speaker 10: I don't want to be the one to give the
Speaker 10: false information.
Speaker 2: What do you do with your time away from the economics?
Speaker 7: You know? I actually came out here to journal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your journal a lot like I.
Speaker 10: Just started, and I'm getting into like pilates Okay, like
Speaker 10: everyone's doing that.
Speaker 2: I guess what what do you? What do you plan
Speaker 2: to journal about today?
Speaker 10: Probably how stressed I am about my test coming up? Okay,
Speaker 10: but this is a good this is a good outlet too,
Speaker 10: I guess.
Speaker 2: Okay, alternative Okay, what uh? I'm also avid journaler. I've
Speaker 2: been journaling for like eight years. I got like eight
Speaker 2: years of journals and here's the problem with journals is
Speaker 2: it journals call you out in a very specific way,
Speaker 2: because what's gonna is is, if you journal long enough,
Speaker 2: something very scary happens. Okay, so well, okay, Well it's
Speaker 2: a double edged sord. It's a double unch sword because
Speaker 2: you'll read a journal from five years ago, okay, and
Speaker 2: and it's a double edged sword. You'll be like, oh,
Speaker 2: this thing that I was dealing, like you were stressed
Speaker 2: out about midterms, right, and then five years later you're like,
Speaker 2: I was stressed out about midterms. My life. My problems
Speaker 2: are way worse now, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: I I can't even believe that this thing. But then
Speaker 2: that's kind of good because now you understand the pattern
Speaker 2: of like, whatever I'm stressed out about now, five years
Speaker 2: from then, I won't even give a shit about. But
Speaker 2: here's where it's bad is you'll be like, Okay, five
Speaker 2: years ago, you'll say to yourself like I want to
Speaker 2: change these things about my life. And if you're.
Speaker 1: It'll call you out because you'll be like.
Speaker 2: You'll look back and be like, oh crap, I still
Speaker 2: have these issues from five years ago. Some of them linger,
Speaker 2: but some of them will change and go away. But
Speaker 2: it's good to have some documentation of what was bothering
Speaker 2: you or what you wanted at some point in your
Speaker 2: life and then compare it to your life now.
Speaker 10: I also think it it's a I think overall it's
Speaker 10: a positive thing. It's a positive thing, and like when
Speaker 10: you look back on it, it's like, oh, it gives
Speaker 10: you more ease because you'll know that, like whatever you're
Speaker 10: going through later, like oh, this is not going to
Speaker 10: be as significant to me the next year or something, right, right, right,
Speaker 10: So I don't know. I have to try it out
Speaker 10: and I'll wait five years and see if that works.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 10: Nothing has happened yet, so i'll try.
Speaker 7: I'll try. I'll try to do that to journal.
Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, so our tariffs good or bad?
Speaker 2: This is gonna be on the test.
Speaker 7: Can I give a no answer?
Speaker 5: Please?
Speaker 1: Could you give a no no answer? Okay, you plead
Speaker 1: the fifth.
Speaker 10: I'm afraid I'm gonna say something wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could say the tariffs are good, the tariffs
Speaker 2: are bad. And then but there's plausible deniability. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: if someone I guess, there's plausible deniability because nothing, nothing's
Speaker 2: real or matters.
Speaker 10: Wow, well I think that for me at least, like
Speaker 10: when I go on social media and I see like
Speaker 10: a lot of things spread and in my classes and
Speaker 10: stuff we all learned about how like oh, you shouldn't
Speaker 10: listen to these podcasts and you shouldn't read.
Speaker 7: This on the news, and you shouldn't do this.
Speaker 10: So like it makes it like really scary to like
Speaker 10: say what you want to say, because then it's like
Speaker 10: I don't want to tribute to someone else thinking something
Speaker 10: wrong because of my misconception of something I don't really
Speaker 10: know about.
Speaker 2: But I think that isn't that like life? Isn't that
Speaker 2: how we come to a content. Everyone just says stuff
Speaker 2: and we kind of vote on what reality is.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a vote, right, Like.
Speaker 10: You can say, like you, I feel like you have
Speaker 10: to do like some sort of like research or like
Speaker 10: fact checking before you.
Speaker 3: Facts.
Speaker 2: Facts are a vote in a sense, right, Like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we like it's a fact. I'm pretty sure I just
Speaker 2: ranted about this on on on the last podcast I
Speaker 2: put out, but I I'm gonna do it again, Like
Speaker 2: the sky is blue? Right, Okay, but how did that
Speaker 2: become a fact?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 2: It was kind of democratically decided and then grandfathered into
Speaker 2: everyone's minds through through brainwashing that the sky is blue.
Speaker 10: Okay, But then that causes some loopholks, and you're like, okay,
Speaker 10: it's blue is blue?
Speaker 1: Who who decided blue was blue?
Speaker 10: What about like the color like the word, the phonetic
Speaker 10: whatever pronunciation of blue?
Speaker 7: Like who said that?
Speaker 2: And I could sit here, Oh yeah, I was arguing
Speaker 2: with the guy about truth, and I could sit here,
Speaker 2: and I could say the sky is green, and I
Speaker 2: have I have a vote. You know, I that is
Speaker 2: my vote. It's not my vote. I'll I'll go ahead
Speaker 2: and concede, or actually I'll abstain. I don't really give
Speaker 2: a fuck what color the sky is. But if my
Speaker 2: vote is that the sky is green, that's still my vote.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm vastly outvoted by by textbooks, by society, by
Speaker 2: the common consensus, but I still get a vote. It's
Speaker 2: still a democratic process.
Speaker 7: I guess you're right.
Speaker 2: My vote just.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, Right.
Speaker 5: It's not.
Speaker 7: It's just gonna be.
Speaker 2: No one's gonna agree with you, right, no one's gonna
Speaker 2: agree with me. But I still get my vote. In
Speaker 2: my own reality, because reality is I guess, the sum
Speaker 2: total of everyone's subjective idea of it sort of right.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean you're right, just and then but and
Speaker 10: it's like if you think like that, then it's like, okay,
Speaker 10: so what's the fact and what's what's not a fact?
Speaker 7: Is fact the real truth?
Speaker 2: You shouldn't think about it too much. You should just
Speaker 2: kind of dude, yesterday, this doesn't mean anything. But I
Speaker 2: had to say is yesterday I went in to a
Speaker 2: I went to Target, and I was like, and I
Speaker 2: asked the guy at the store if he knew where
Speaker 2: something was, and I was like, I am. I am
Speaker 2: so deeply entrenched in reality right now, and it feels awesome.
Speaker 2: So you should do stuff like that instead of wondering
Speaker 2: what color the sky is?
Speaker 7: You know, sorry, how did that relate to the color
Speaker 7: of the sky.
Speaker 2: Because it's like you could sit around questioning reality and
Speaker 2: wondering what color the sky is, or you can, like,
Speaker 2: or you can go to a store and ask someone
Speaker 2: where the where bottled water is and then go home
Speaker 2: and do dishes and then call your friend and tell
Speaker 2: them about a television show that you saw, and you
Speaker 2: can just just accept just like keep acceptance of whatever
Speaker 2: life is, and without thinking about it, you'll have a
Speaker 2: way better time.
Speaker 1: I guess that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I agree with that. I feel like I would do that.
Speaker 2: What's your name again, Hannah?
Speaker 5: Hannah?
Speaker 2: Hannah's anything else you wants to the people of the
Speaker 2: computer before we.
Speaker 10: Go, No, I just want to ask you how you
Speaker 10: got into this?
Speaker 1: Uh today, I got into this. Bye, just on the suit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by putting on the suit, coming out here and
Speaker 2: setting up microphones and stuff. Nice. Thanks for talking to
Speaker 2: a gecko Hanks. Thanks see you around the universe.
Speaker 1: Bye, Hannah. Hi, what is your name?
Speaker 9: My name is Scott.
Speaker 1: Scott.
Speaker 2: Nice to meet you.
Speaker 9: Nice to meet you.
Speaker 2: You're uh, you look very clean.
Speaker 9: Thank you. Yeah. I try to, I don't know, try
Speaker 9: to dress a nice.
Speaker 2: How often do you do laundry?
Speaker 9: I do laundry, like I guess, like once every six days.
Speaker 2: Probably laundry once every six days.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Well it's like I just have the one hamper and
Speaker 9: it's like once it gets like reasonably full, just throw
Speaker 9: the laundry in. Just do it like one load at
Speaker 9: a time.
Speaker 3: God.
Speaker 2: That's I was just talking about being in reality and
Speaker 2: not wondering what the sky was and you, I'm that's
Speaker 2: doing laundry six days a week is deep in in
Speaker 2: reality and I have so much respect for that, and
Speaker 2: that's awesome, and I think I'm doing my best.
Speaker 9: I think I disagree listening in on your on your
Speaker 9: take about facts. I think I disagree with your take
Speaker 9: about the facts.
Speaker 1: And you know what, you know what, that's your vote
Speaker 1: to disagree.
Speaker 2: Well, this is why you can't disagree, because your disagreement
Speaker 2: is a vote.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I agree with why vote? Okay, go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead?
Speaker 2: What's your name?
Speaker 9: My name is Scott.
Speaker 3: Scott. Okay.
Speaker 9: I think there's a difference between facts that like are
Speaker 9: have like a foundation in human experience. Yeah, there can
Speaker 9: be like a disagreement on like how often is the
Speaker 9: And I guess that's even getting into opinion. But like
Speaker 9: if you're asking, like you know, the fact of like
Speaker 9: will styrofoam dissolve in like a certain acid? You can,
Speaker 9: you can vote no, but your vote isn't gonna change
Speaker 9: the syrophoam.
Speaker 2: Yeah you can.
Speaker 9: You can sit there and watch it and sure, but.
Speaker 1: I can, but what is styrofoam?
Speaker 9: Well, I mean I guess, yeah, you can get into
Speaker 9: this the you know, you can be pedantic about what
Speaker 9: counts as styrophoam. Yeah, sure, if we can agree on
Speaker 9: like a constraint of like what the chemical compound of styrofoam.
Speaker 2: Is, Okay, okay, acid? So you're this is hilarious that
Speaker 2: we're gonna I don't what I'm having. I'm having fun
Speaker 2: having I'm having fun being an insane person right now.
Speaker 8: What.
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: So, yes, you're correct, It doesn't change the reality that
Speaker 2: skyrofoam does dissolve an acid. But what if everyone just
Speaker 2: said it didn't, Well, then who It's like the tree
Speaker 2: a tree falls in a forest, no one's around to
Speaker 2: hear it.
Speaker 1: Does the tree still fall?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 9: And I mean everybody can say that, but that still
Speaker 9: won't change. Like I think there is like an objective
Speaker 9: reality side of us, where like even if everybody says
Speaker 9: that it won't, when they drop the styrofoam cup in,
Speaker 9: it's still going to disappear.
Speaker 2: I still vote that it won I still I still
Speaker 2: I still believe that ignorance is a powerful serum that
Speaker 2: you can really really really you know all right, you're right, well,
Speaker 2: and you're right you know what you you know what
Speaker 2: you're doing right now? Is your lobbying you're lobby or no,
Speaker 2: you're not living, you're not loving.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's the wrong way. You're campaigning campaigning.
Speaker 2: You're campaigning that styrofoam will dissolve an acid, and you're
Speaker 2: doing it very successful well.
Speaker 9: And I think the problem is that's a very easy
Speaker 9: thing to test and to verify, whereas most facts are
Speaker 9: not easy to take.
Speaker 2: So testing and would you testing and verifying is also
Speaker 2: it's a form of campaigning.
Speaker 1: For the truth. It's true what you believe to be true.
Speaker 9: Well, and it's less like campaigning for what you believe.
Speaker 9: But I think it's you know, more useful too, especially
Speaker 9: for like the scientific method. It's it's a campaign and
Speaker 9: more just like a form of discovery, is like because
Speaker 9: you can campaign on like some you know, truths that
Speaker 9: are a lot more you know, very difficult or impossible
Speaker 9: to test.
Speaker 2: But what do you what do you do outside of
Speaker 2: what do you what do you.
Speaker 1: Do with your life? Scott?
Speaker 9: I am in law school?
Speaker 2: You're in law school?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is your bread and butter is arguing
Speaker 2: facts and truth?
Speaker 9: It sure is?
Speaker 2: And what's uh? Are you in law school at NYU? I?
Speaker 2: Sure am grad or undergrad?
Speaker 9: Oh grid, Oh cool, yeah, what what's what's what's that like?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 9: It's fun, it's a it sure is a lot of work. Yeah,
Speaker 9: it's a yeah. I you know, I you go to
Speaker 9: undergrad and you think you work hard, and then you
Speaker 9: go to law school and you're like, wow, okay, now
Speaker 9: I know what working hardly?
Speaker 1: What do you do for fun? When that when the
Speaker 1: books are away and you're.
Speaker 9: I come out here. I love this park. It's great,
Speaker 9: but it's an amazing park. I love that there's just
Speaker 9: like jazz. I can come out and listen whenever I want.
Speaker 9: It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now law is an interesting thing.
Speaker 2: I hate that I'm going back to this, but I
Speaker 2: it's just this is where I'm being to law, is
Speaker 2: it now? Law is much more subjective? Oh yeah right?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Like I like.
Speaker 2: I could argue that murder should be legal. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's my vote. Oh yeah, you know, but there's and
Speaker 2: there's no objective it's not there's no objective fact as
Speaker 2: to whether or not murder is wrong.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Well, and you can even argue, like you can
Speaker 9: look at a statute and you can essentially argue that
Speaker 9: that statute says whatever you want it to say, yeah,
Speaker 9: and courts will try to be like, yeah, we're starting
Speaker 9: with the text. But even if like even somebody who's
Speaker 9: saying like, oh yeah, this is based in the text, yeah,
Speaker 9: a lot of the time it's they're arguing what they
Speaker 9: want the text.
Speaker 2: Does that make you feel uncomfortable? Like, all right, you know,
Speaker 2: here's the thing I was I'm mainly trolling when I'm
Speaker 2: having when I'm saying that reality is, I'm I'm fifty
Speaker 2: percent trolling when I say that reality is. Uh, trolling
Speaker 2: doesn't mean I don't believe, but whatever, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry say yeah, But doesn't it make you a
Speaker 2: little uncomfortable to know that like laws and these institutions
Speaker 2: or whatever, there's no like glue. Uh, there's no glue
Speaker 2: to them in the same way that there's dependable glue
Speaker 2: to the fact that styrofoam will melt? An ask, does
Speaker 2: that make you uncomfortable? Census it's scary because yeah, it's fragile.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's it is people. It's just ideas.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, we've I think we as people are pretty
Speaker 9: good at maintaining these institutions and these ideas. In a
Speaker 9: lot of situations. But I mean we can see now
Speaker 9: like these things are fragile.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can just what if it wasn't your
Speaker 2: way to becoming the president?
Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah, the yeah, the administrative state is a fun
Speaker 9: thing to be watching at the moment, particularly fragile.
Speaker 2: But what do you do when you're not well? So
Speaker 2: you you just you come to the park.
Speaker 9: Do you have I like to sing?
Speaker 2: You like to sing?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What do you say?
Speaker 9: I'm in like the law school a cappella group, which
Speaker 9: is like an undergrad a cappella group. But you know,
Speaker 9: we don't have the time that the undergrad groups do.
Speaker 9: We do our best.
Speaker 1: Do you read a lot of books?
Speaker 9: I read some books. I'm reading House of Leaves at
Speaker 9: the moment.
Speaker 1: Why do I know what that is? What is that about?
Speaker 9: It's like a haunted house book kind of. It's also
Speaker 9: like a satire on academia. It's insane to try to
Speaker 9: read it. There's footnotes and footnotes and footnotes. There's text
Speaker 9: in all going in all different directions at certain points.
Speaker 9: It's a it's a journey, but it's fun.
Speaker 2: Have you ever gone insane or do you feel like
Speaker 2: you've been pretty attached to reality?
Speaker 9: I think I've been pretty attached to reality.
Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think there?
Speaker 9: I I think I've just been lucky. I think in
Speaker 9: a lot of cases, sure, not a lot, like really
Speaker 9: horrible has happened to me, which I feel like, you know,
Speaker 9: just just luck.
Speaker 1: Nothing horrible has ever happened to you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Nothing, nothing real bad.
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like.
Speaker 2: I I've I'm not well. Do you ever feel like
Speaker 2: if something horrible has ever happened to you? You ever
Speaker 2: just like you ever like that in and of itself,
Speaker 2: You're kind of like, I'm waiting for.
Speaker 9: The shoe to drive hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for this because well, in New York City,
Speaker 2: you walk around and every day you see people who
Speaker 2: are like, horrible things have clearly happened to this person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why am I? Why not? Why are they happening
Speaker 1: to this person and not me?
Speaker 9: Yeah? Oh yeah, I feel that way all the time.
Speaker 2: And you're like, what you gotta It's like uh, and
Speaker 2: part of you, like part of your brain goes like,
Speaker 2: I'm not getting out of this alive. I'm not getting
Speaker 2: out of this. Nobody gets out of this perfectly. So
Speaker 2: you're a little bit waiting for the shoot to drop.
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, it's it's gonna be something at some point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you thinking that you're gonna get robbed,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get back?
Speaker 9: What do I think it's gonna be. No, I think
Speaker 9: it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: Like you would.
Speaker 1: I feel like you would make a great like isis hostage?
Speaker 9: I I yeah, I feel like I've had I've had
Speaker 9: nightmares about like getting kidnapped, and it's always very amicable.
Speaker 1: Like it's like you convinced that.
Speaker 2: It's always like it's.
Speaker 9: Like we're just like we just kind of like having
Speaker 9: a conversation in the back of the truck as we're
Speaker 9: like they're taking me to the location, but we're just talking.
Speaker 9: It's it's yeah, it's it's amicable in the sense of
Speaker 9: like I'm not like happy with where I'm at, but
Speaker 9: it's also like I'm not like screaming, crying, They're not
Speaker 9: beating me up.
Speaker 3: Like it's just.
Speaker 9: I think that's probably how it would go down. I
Speaker 9: think I like i'd be I'd be nervous, but at
Speaker 9: a certain point, like once I've accepted that there's nothing
Speaker 9: I can do to get out of the situation, it's like, well,
Speaker 9: I mean I'm I don't know what they're doing with me,
Speaker 9: but I guess I'll just chat with them. Yeah, I
Speaker 9: gotta make the best of the situation that I'm in.
Speaker 2: We all have that fan We all have that fantasy
Speaker 2: of like, if I were like being held at gunpoint,
Speaker 2: I could just look at the guy and be like,
Speaker 2: hey man, what's this really about? Oh yeah, we all.
Speaker 2: I totally have that fantasy that like I could. I
Speaker 2: used to have a fantasy where like, uh, I would
Speaker 2: be someone would like help me at gunpoint, right, and
Speaker 2: to get out of it, I would just take off
Speaker 2: all my clothes and start spinning around and going ah.
Speaker 2: And then they would be like this, this this, this
Speaker 2: guy is crazy. Let's just go yeah. No, you don't
Speaker 2: know if that's how that would go down, though.
Speaker 9: I also have that instinct of like, yeah, I just
Speaker 9: have to out crazy. Whoever is like trying to mug
Speaker 9: me on that cold Could you could you really do that?
Speaker 9: I think I probably could.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what would you do?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: How would you go crazy?
Speaker 9: I think, well, yeah, I'd probably just start moving weird.
Speaker 9: I'd be making bird noises, I'd be getting up in
Speaker 9: their face.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but like fight, because the fight or flight response,
Speaker 2: you feel like you could do that.
Speaker 9: That's the thing I think because this has kind of
Speaker 9: happened to me. It was one time I was I
Speaker 9: was in a Walmart waiting for like an oil change,
Speaker 9: and I realized that I was being followed around by
Speaker 9: this guy like he'd been following me around the store
Speaker 9: for like fifteen minutes. I just started walking in circles
Speaker 9: and realized that he was following me. Yeah, And I
Speaker 9: was thinking in my head the whole time, like what
Speaker 9: am I? What am I gonna do to this guy?
Speaker 9: And I went out to like a one of the
Speaker 9: like wider like open areas with more people, okay, And
Speaker 9: as I was thinking about it, he eventually walked away
Speaker 9: and I was like, okay, is he gone? And then
Speaker 9: he walked away and he was okay. But I was
Speaker 9: getting I was I was coming up with a plant.
Speaker 9: I had the wherewithal. I was horrified, but I had
Speaker 9: the wherewithal to be like.
Speaker 1: What, wow, Okay, this guy was fun. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: How long maybe you guys just both like Dorito's how
Speaker 2: do you know that he was? This was This was.
Speaker 9: Fifteen minutes of me walking in a circle and him
Speaker 9: being like about as close as we are now behind me.
Speaker 1: Why did you talk?
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. It's like you're telling me if you
Speaker 2: were a kidnapp isis you talked to that? Why don't
Speaker 2: you talk to this guy? Like like you had no
Speaker 2: instinct to turn around and be like, well, man.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 9: I didn't want to be like, hey, what's up?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: I was at least turn around, yeah, make a friend.
Speaker 9: He didn't. He didn't look like a friend to me.
Speaker 9: He was kind of heirs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk to him.
Speaker 9: But also, if somebody's gonna like follow me around in
Speaker 9: a Walmart real close, I'm like, Chris Man wants to Like,
Speaker 9: this man's trying to take me. I'm pretty small, but like,
Speaker 9: I don't know. I was like, if I'm gonna if
Speaker 9: I'm gonna do something, it's gotta This needs to be
Speaker 9: a defense mechanism.
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of relief to being taken. Don't
Speaker 2: you think you don't have to make decisions anymore? That's true?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would.
Speaker 3: I would have.
Speaker 9: I would have in a sense, fewer problems in quantity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you weirdly, you weirdly have fewer problems in they It.
Speaker 9: Might be a bigger problem but it is certainly fewer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I hope you don't get kidnapped by isis.
Speaker 9: I hope I don't get kidnapped by I hope.
Speaker 1: That you die at a very old age. Me too,
Speaker 1: as a lawyer.
Speaker 2: As a lawyer, and I kind of I I my
Speaker 2: gut ain't worth much, but I I just I really
Speaker 2: think that you will continue to live a life where
Speaker 2: nothing horrible happens to you. I'm out now, but we'll see.
Speaker 9: As I'm walking over, I'll just get like, I don't know,
Speaker 9: like ten birds are gonna poop on me at the
Speaker 9: same time, and that'll be the That'll be the love.
Speaker 2: If that's the most horrible thing that ever happens to
Speaker 2: you in your life, that I will take that.
Speaker 9: I'll take that right now if that's if that's the worst.
Speaker 1: Got anything else gonna say to the people of the
Speaker 1: computer before we go.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 9: Enjoy yourself, have a good time, go outside.
Speaker 2: Scott, Thank you, Scott. Yeah, I'll see you, Uh the sport.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I said that's that? Wasn't that funny?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: Bye? Scott? Hi there, what is your name?
Speaker 5: Anna?
Speaker 1: Anna?
Speaker 2: Nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: What's up? How's it going.
Speaker 5: It's good.
Speaker 1: I like your hat, thank you.
Speaker 5: I like your gi look.
Speaker 1: Thanks Doug.
Speaker 2: What's uh?
Speaker 1: What's been the most persistent thought on your mind lately?
Speaker 5: Ooh oh?
Speaker 11: I just so I am in school right now and
Speaker 11: I just left the closet about sex, gender and justice. Okay,
Speaker 11: So I've been reading a lot about intersectional feminist theory.
Speaker 5: So I've been thinking a.
Speaker 2: Lot about that. Okay, exciting stuff. What's the what's all right? Intersexual? Intersexual?
Speaker 2: Say that again?
Speaker 5: Intersectional feminist?
Speaker 2: Intersectional gender feminist? What's the main idea? Give us the gist.
Speaker 11: It's kind of looking at like structures of power that
Speaker 11: have been historically been put in place and how they
Speaker 11: benefit men, like the patriarchy or like supremacy. So the
Speaker 11: intersectional side of it is looking at like raised gender,
Speaker 11: like class, and the feminist side of it is bringing
Speaker 11: more like acknowledgment to like the position of subjugation that
Speaker 11: like women, and the idea like how we even understand
Speaker 11: and define what woman is has been developed in society.
Speaker 2: Sure, Sure, and that's that is the thing. Like there's
Speaker 2: it's an open idea of like what is a woman?
Speaker 2: Which it kind of goes I don't know if you
Speaker 2: listen to me rant, but sometimes it is I was.
Speaker 2: I was just ranting about reality. No, no, I was
Speaker 2: just ranting about reality being a democracy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that idea.
Speaker 2: I agree it goes because like what what's the roll
Speaker 2: of paper towels? You know, exactly whatever whatever we assigned
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 1: It's so yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Some people are like, uh, facts are facts and fucking
Speaker 2: styrofoam dissolves in acid, and uh, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Ship what do you? What do you do?
Speaker 3: What do you? What do you?
Speaker 2: Is this what you study?
Speaker 10: So?
Speaker 11: I did be here real neuroscience and anthropology before, and
Speaker 11: I'm doing forensic psychology.
Speaker 2: Now, okay, what's going on in forensic psychology.
Speaker 11: I'm very interested in kind of like how intersects with
Speaker 11: culture and how we define like what is considered abnormal behavior,
Speaker 11: what is considered criminal behavior, and how just subjective of.
Speaker 2: This we were. I was just talking about whether or
Speaker 2: not murders should be legal.
Speaker 1: That's this question.
Speaker 2: Do you think it should be legal?
Speaker 5: In what sense?
Speaker 11: I feel like everything is very contact dependent and I
Speaker 11: feel like some people define abortion.
Speaker 2: I would disagree with that, all right, you see that
Speaker 2: you see that guy over there. If I shouldn't a point,
Speaker 2: I should not have pointed at a specific person. If
Speaker 2: I but like, if I pointed at a guy and
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't like that guy, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go kill him.
Speaker 1: Like, you shouldn't be able to do that.
Speaker 11: I don't think so, because you can just walk away.
Speaker 11: You cannot interact with that guy without having to kill him.
Speaker 2: Wait, that's why I feel like you shouldn't be able
Speaker 2: to do it, because it's he's I mean, this guy
Speaker 2: seems like a nice guy. I don't want to kill him.
Speaker 2: He looks really nice, smile, and I don't feel bad
Speaker 2: that I pointed at him and said, but it's not true.
Speaker 2: I don't want to kill him. But what I But
Speaker 2: if I did, I should go to jail. Right If
Speaker 2: I kill a guy, I think you.
Speaker 11: Probably should go through some transformative justice process more than jail,
Speaker 11: because I feel like just going to jail he's not
Speaker 11: really gonna change the impulse you had to kill him
Speaker 11: in the first place. So once you come out of jail,
Speaker 11: you might as well just do the same thing.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, sure, what So Okay, let's say there's a
Speaker 2: guy and he's like, see that guy over there, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna kill him with a knife. Okay, I'm gonna stab
Speaker 2: him over and over again, this guy only because I'm
Speaker 2: not just for no reason, just for fun, just to
Speaker 2: see what it feels like, for just to see what
Speaker 2: it feels like, it for the sake of it. Okay,
Speaker 2: So then from what you from your belief, how do
Speaker 2: we get what should happen to that guy? Should we
Speaker 2: is it should we punish him because he killed a guy?
Speaker 2: Or should we get him to a point where he
Speaker 2: didn't want to kill guys anymore?
Speaker 11: I think we should talk to him and figure out
Speaker 11: what made him want to kill someone and kind of
Speaker 11: like understand why do we find life so valuable? Why
Speaker 11: do we find that so ominous and so like tele
Speaker 11: and then like go from there, like see what his
Speaker 11: impulses are, and like it's probably something underlying more about
Speaker 11: himself more than so much about the guy he ended
Speaker 11: up killing.
Speaker 1: Right, we gotta figure that out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, what what do you think it is that
Speaker 2: makes people want to kill people for no reason?
Speaker 11: I think for some people he's like feeling control. I
Speaker 11: feel like a lot of people feel over it, just
Speaker 11: like subjects of society and like kind of like things
Speaker 11: are imposed onto us. It's like a claim of like
Speaker 11: oh I'm just radically gonna do something and like it's
Speaker 11: gonna have consequences, but I did it.
Speaker 1: Why people like light fires and shoot?
Speaker 5: Yeah, just feeling control?
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, interesting interesting, Yeah, because it is
Speaker 2: like right, okay, right, because let's say you want to
Speaker 2: change the world, like to do it to to change
Speaker 2: the world pro socially is like way more effort, I agree,
Speaker 2: than to change the world anti socially, because it's like
Speaker 2: like the actual process of like killing someone or lighting
Speaker 2: a building on fire is easier than like writing a.
Speaker 5: Sitting down and processing how you feel about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sitting Like it's way easier than like writing
Speaker 2: a sonnet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's easier.
Speaker 2: It's easier than writing.
Speaker 1: Like a good sonnet.
Speaker 3: I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if what I said is actually true.
Speaker 2: I think so. I think it makes sense. Like what's
Speaker 2: what's harder? Like like painted, Like I'm talking like in
Speaker 2: a all right, Like if you were putting a white
Speaker 2: room with nothing in it. Yeah, and you there's a
Speaker 2: paint brush on an easel and a knife and a
Speaker 2: guy with a stupid face, and it was like, all right,
Speaker 2: to get out of the room, you have to either
Speaker 2: kill the guy with the stupid face or paint a
Speaker 2: beautiful painting. I guess it's like, again, process wise, easier
Speaker 2: to kill the guy with the stupid face.
Speaker 11: I it's more easy to agree that, like when he's dead,
Speaker 11: it's easy to agree that he's dead.
Speaker 1: How great that.
Speaker 2: This guy is dead is easier than the consensus that
Speaker 2: the painting is beautiful? Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what would you do in that case?
Speaker 2: What I do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd.
Speaker 2: I would kill the guy and then make a beautiful
Speaker 2: painting with his blood. Said that, but yeah, there we go, somebody, yes,
Speaker 2: clap for that. Yes, that's a great thing to say
Speaker 2: that people should flat for.
Speaker 1: What would you do?
Speaker 2: What you do?
Speaker 5: How about stop myself?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I guess you could do that. That's that's that's good.
Speaker 2: That's that's you know what that is The easiest, easiest
Speaker 2: is to just kill yourself, but not how to deal
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then you don't have to deal with it.
Speaker 2: I mean that's the easiest solution process wise to anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, that's way easier than get what's the there's
Speaker 2: a giving up swhite harder than the giving ups easier
Speaker 2: than trying. Yeah, I was about a quota. I think
Speaker 2: that's a Kanye bar giving up white harder than trying.
Speaker 2: But it's not. It's that's wrong. Yeah, that's wrong. That's
Speaker 2: one of many wrong Yeah things.
Speaker 11: I mean there's some things that like, are you that
Speaker 11: suicide is kind of like holding onto hope that like
Speaker 11: some people kill themselves hoping that he's gonna be better,
Speaker 11: and it's just it's nothing, it's not better.
Speaker 1: It's like suicide's not holding onto hope.
Speaker 5: Right, I also think it's not holding onto hope.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying alive is holding onto hop Yeah.
Speaker 11: But I know, like Albert Kamu like talks about like
Speaker 11: suicide in like very like the same terms as like hope.
Speaker 11: It's like people like hope that there's the only way
Speaker 11: they see change possible is by ending their lives and
Speaker 11: hoping that like we don't know what happens after life,
Speaker 11: so like it's kind of like taking a gamble.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but also you don't.
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing is you're gonna find out at
Speaker 2: one point or another.
Speaker 5: Will we Yeah, you find out, okay.
Speaker 1: Because you die and then you find out, but.
Speaker 11: You're not conscious. So are you finding out what happens
Speaker 11: if you're not conscious?
Speaker 1: That's true?
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, people around you find out. We know what
Speaker 11: that is because people around us, well.
Speaker 2: People around you find out what happens when you die,
Speaker 2: which is that there's a funeral and maybe it's catered
Speaker 2: and there's something this charcuterie board.
Speaker 5: And very expensive.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What what do you want for your funeral?
Speaker 2: Do you want the.
Speaker 1: Do you want to be like put in a jar?
Speaker 11: I want to be given to nature. I want like
Speaker 11: trees to eat me and like become food for the environment.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah, that's cool. Why what's your name again?
Speaker 5: Anna?
Speaker 1: Anna? Why should people live?
Speaker 2: Anna?
Speaker 5: Oh that's a heavy question.
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's a lot to put on you.
Speaker 2: I'm just I don't you don't need to have an answer,
Speaker 2: but I'm just curious what you think because you've studied.
Speaker 11: I think we don't really choose to become alive, and
Speaker 11: an unconsensual choice that he's put onto us might as
Speaker 11: well just try it out and see what he feels like. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 11: and play with it because we don't really have an
Speaker 11: option around it.
Speaker 5: And then if you tune out of it. That's I'm
Speaker 5: not I'm not super anti suicide. I don't know, controversial.
Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, yeah, well I don't. I look all right,
Speaker 2: I'll bounce it out. I think, give it a shot.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing I can think of because like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's a ball, a ball almost rolled it. That's my
Speaker 2: worst fear. That's my worst fear of all time. That
Speaker 2: would be my thirteenth. Reason why it's my worst fear
Speaker 2: of all time is that like I'm near like a
Speaker 2: playground or whatever, and there's.
Speaker 1: A bunch of like cool.
Speaker 2: You have to throw it back, and the ball comes
Speaker 2: near me and I have to like kick it back.
Speaker 2: I'm so afraid that I'm gonna kick it the wrong
Speaker 2: way and then I have to go into the woods
Speaker 2: and get it.
Speaker 11: I've seen someone do that. They like kick get into
Speaker 11: a tree, and they ruined the day for the rest
Speaker 11: of the people playing that night.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the situation in which I'm not. I'm
Speaker 2: also totally not anti suicide. It's yeah, context dependent. But
Speaker 2: now here's my Okay, here's my argument is there's so
Speaker 2: many different things you could try before you do that.
Speaker 2: I mean, knitting.
Speaker 11: Exactly, you know, or like disappearing and started on your
Speaker 11: life somewhere else. Might as well try that.
Speaker 2: You might as well try there's so many different things
Speaker 2: you your brain only has access to the reality that
Speaker 2: it's that it's experienced thus far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you might as well try some new ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's infinite That's the thing is you could, like,
Speaker 2: there's inxact things to try until you turn eighty or whatever.
Speaker 3: The huges.
Speaker 2: So just keep infinitely trying. And you might because I'll
Speaker 2: take a maybe over.
Speaker 5: A no exactly. Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 11: There's so many choosing might as well just see what
Speaker 11: what happens.
Speaker 2: You just keep choosing maybe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: I like that, Just keep choosing maybe, would you eat today? Anything?
Speaker 1: I don't know why I have this problem.
Speaker 2: I think I I think it started since I've been
Speaker 2: doing this podcast of like I just have to turn
Speaker 2: every fucking conversation to some esoteric whatever the fuck thing.
Speaker 2: I was. I was around, uh, these group of guys.
Speaker 2: I've told this story on this podcast probably before. But
Speaker 2: I was around these group of guys and they were
Speaker 2: eating a sandwich and one of them starts crushing chips
Speaker 2: into the sandwich and then they start talking about how
Speaker 2: awesome it is to crush chips on a sandwich.
Speaker 5: What's your take on that?
Speaker 2: It's all I love it? And I was like why,
Speaker 2: And I was like, why can't I? I want to
Speaker 2: have more conversations like this.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 2: Everyone's always you know those people on dating apps where
Speaker 2: they're like, I only have deep conversations. Yeah, that sounds like.
Speaker 1: Hell, yeah that sucks.
Speaker 5: It sounds crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you want to just talk about a simple pleasure.
Speaker 5: That's what we can all agree on easily.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to talk about something we've been we've
Speaker 2: been getting too into the weeds.
Speaker 1: You want to talk talk about something normal?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like what you watch?
Speaker 2: Anything good on TV? Lately?
Speaker 11: I started watching the new season of White Lotos recently.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I don't know that one.
Speaker 5: Okay, it's okay. Have you seen that? You you've never
Speaker 5: heard of the show?
Speaker 2: No, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 11: Okay, I recommend The first two seasons were really good.
Speaker 11: The third one I'm still waiting for it to kind
Speaker 11: of like okay, yeah, get better, all right, I'll check
Speaker 11: it out. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 5: What about you? What do you like to watch?
Speaker 1: I don't really watch a lot of TV.
Speaker 5: Okay do you read?
Speaker 2: No, not really, what do you do?
Speaker 1: We'll look at YouTube videos?
Speaker 5: Nice? What type of YouTube videos?
Speaker 2: Stuff like how did how did uh like make thirty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars from home with Amazon drop shipping?
Speaker 5: Nice? Has it worked for you?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I just watched the I watched the first two minutes
Speaker 2: of it, and then I go look at like gameplay
Speaker 2: from a GameCube for game gameplay from the rug Rats
Speaker 2: GameCube game that I played around as a kid.
Speaker 5: Nice.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah.
Speaker 11: I was looking at tickets for my spring breaks coming up,
Speaker 11: and I want to figure out what I can do.
Speaker 11: I'm from Columbia. I want to go back to Columbia,
Speaker 11: but tickets are so expensive.
Speaker 2: We're in Columbia from I was born in Bogota.
Speaker 5: I grew up in Melojing.
Speaker 2: My cousin's going to Bogata. Oh nice, Yeah, he's gonna
Speaker 2: for the first time.
Speaker 1: You have the first time? Okay, any tips for my cousin.
Speaker 5: Don't walk around with your phone out.
Speaker 11: Bogota is more like it's like the New York like
Speaker 11: the Columbia version of New York is very chaotic, is
Speaker 11: very busy, is not like super like tourists friendly as
Speaker 11: much as other cities. I would say, don't judge Columbia
Speaker 11: based off Bogota. I love Bota, but it's not it's
Speaker 11: not like flowers and tropics. That's more like Melojin or
Speaker 11: the coast. But there's a lot of museums and cultural stuff.
Speaker 11: A lot of street art is really cool. The foot
Speaker 11: is the foot is bombed. Yeah, incredible.
Speaker 1: What's what's that? What's Columbian food?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 11: What it changes by city by region because we have
Speaker 11: a lot of like mountains, so altitude. We have a
Speaker 11: lot of like different veggies that grow in Bogota. The
Speaker 11: main dish is called tahiaco, is like a potato based
Speaker 11: soup with chicken, and it's so good that sounds it's
Speaker 11: so yummy. I'm vegan now, but I'm.
Speaker 2: Still a vegan because like it's like like for ethics
Speaker 2: reasons or your stomach hurts for ethics.
Speaker 5: I've been vegan for ten years now.
Speaker 2: Oh pretty good, Yeah, pretty good. I'm also, uh, this
Speaker 2: is another rant I've got.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 1: I have a simp.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 2: Fucking like, I have like three rants that I go
Speaker 2: on and this is one of them. Is like, uh,
Speaker 2: I logically understand that it's unethical to kill animals and
Speaker 2: eat them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do it anyway.
Speaker 5: That's fair.
Speaker 11: I feel like I am more comfortable with people that
Speaker 11: understand that and make that choice and then like you're
Speaker 11: making a moral choice of your own decision autonomy, rather
Speaker 11: than like pretending like it's not like you're eating there's.
Speaker 2: No real Yeah, well we could be fine. We Yeah,
Speaker 2: lots of chickens for no reasons.
Speaker 11: And I have more problem not so much with consuming meat,
Speaker 11: but with the like how it's massively produced.
Speaker 5: Now, like I don't have a problem.
Speaker 11: He's like a local, like indigenous person or like you
Speaker 11: have your own farm and you like that's I don't
Speaker 11: really mind that.
Speaker 2: But no, I'm like when tight like Tyson dinosaur chicken nuggets,
Speaker 2: you're not like that's a little too much. It's a
Speaker 2: little too much. I will admit it.
Speaker 1: Is fucked up.
Speaker 2: We've gone it's fucked up to kill an animal and
Speaker 2: then make it into.
Speaker 5: The you're laughing at it? What are we doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're trolling chicken. We're we're big trolling chickens. You
Speaker 2: know what, maybe you just maybe you shouldn't have been
Speaker 2: a chicken. Maybe you should have been something cool or
Speaker 2: like a like a guy with a skateboard. Yeah. Uh
Speaker 2: and thanks for talking to about Is there anything else
Speaker 2: you want to say to the people of the computer.
Speaker 11: Uh, not much. I yeah, I'm about to eat some food.
Speaker 11: I'm so hungry, but it was nice.
Speaker 2: I'm hungry too. You made me hungry for for dinosaur chicken. Nice.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll yeah you too.
Speaker 2: By literally, wow, folks, this has been being a gecko
Speaker 2: on the street.
Speaker 1: This was good.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep doing more of these. I I haven't
Speaker 2: done one of these in like nine or two, ten
Speaker 2: months or something. I forgot how much fun it is
Speaker 2: to talk to people in real life instead of in
Speaker 2: a room. I'm still gonna talk to people alone in
Speaker 2: a dark room.
Speaker 1: Don't worry.
Speaker 2: I'll still be doing that, but I might just start
Speaker 2: trying to do this once a week or every other
Speaker 2: week or something like that. So stay tuned. I hope
Speaker 2: you enjoyed it. Hit subscribe on YouTube or hit whatever
Speaker 2: on a podcast thing. Thanks for if and if you're
Speaker 2: listening to that, let me just from experience, I just
Speaker 2: here's if you're listening to this and you're in your
Speaker 2: underwear in your house alone, and you're like and you're
Speaker 2: going crazy. Just put on pants and go outside and
Speaker 2: you'll you'll be like, all right, that was half the battle. Okay,
Speaker 2: thanks for being here with me on this journey. I'm
Speaker 2: a gecko. I'm insane, and.
Speaker 1: Get off.
Speaker 2: Get off the computer. Okay, bye everyone, goodbye, see you later.
Speaker 3: Bye.
Speaker 7: Therapy. Get goes on the line, taking your phone calls
Speaker 7: every night.
Speaker 6: The repent goes through Its eye's
Speaker 7: Teaching you to houses of your life, but he's not
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