WEBVTT - GECK IRL: “IS MURDER BAD?”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, folks, it is Lyle.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just a quick intro to this episode, letting

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<v Speaker 2>you know that it was recorded in real life. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>in real life in Washington Square Park in New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>I did some interviews with some folks. We got to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to a lot of people. It was really great.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you enjoy it, and please let me know

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<v Speaker 2>in the comments if you like these kinds of episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>because personally, for me, they're my favorite kind to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I love getting to chat with people. I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>the energy was really there. It was really fun. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's it. This is me recording out a intro. There's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be another intro of me talking while I'm actually

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<v Speaker 2>in the park. I don't know why I'm doubling up

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<v Speaker 2>on the intros or even why I'm still talking right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get in to the episode. This is being a

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<v Speaker 2>Gecko in the Park. Okay, Hello, listeners of the Therapy

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<v Speaker 2>Gecko podcast and watchers of videos on the internet. We

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<v Speaker 2>are here today in Washington Square Park because, uh well,

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<v Speaker 2>folks who listen to the podcast know that all I've

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<v Speaker 2>been talking about is existential dread and going insane. And

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<v Speaker 2>I actually figured out guys, get this. I figured out

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<v Speaker 2>the solution to going insane and you and you folks

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<v Speaker 2>aren't gonna believe it. But all you have to do

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<v Speaker 2>is go outside. It's all you have to do. Go outside,

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<v Speaker 2>touch some grass. So I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel great, I feel amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Square Park is one of my favorite places that

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<v Speaker 2>I have that I have been in my adventures around

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<v Speaker 2>the planet. There's all kinds of people here, all living

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<v Speaker 2>their own individual lives, and it's a sunny day out

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna I'm gonna chat with some people, so

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<v Speaker 2>let's do that. This is being a gecko in the park.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you tell us your.

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<v Speaker 1>Name, ma'am?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes hi, I'm Tabitha, Tabitha. Nice to meet you, Tabitha.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing. How's life good?

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<v Speaker 3>Good? Beautiful? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What brings you to the park today?

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<v Speaker 4>I am here with a group that does arts ministry.

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<v Speaker 1>What is arts ministry?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So it's artists who love Jesus and are committed to

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<v Speaker 4>loving the people in art in the city for him,

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<v Speaker 4>like in his name.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what's funny is okay? On the last

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<v Speaker 2>episode of the podcast, we had another guy who wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about Jesus, but he was he was a

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<v Speaker 2>dick about it. You seem way nicer.

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<v Speaker 6>Than he does.

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<v Speaker 2>When did you? And I'm actually, I'm I'm open minded

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<v Speaker 2>to these things because it's very hard to find direction

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<v Speaker 2>in life, and it seems like something that gives people

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of direction in life.

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<v Speaker 1>So when did you find Jesus?

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually found Jesus because my parents dragged me to

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<v Speaker 4>church as a small child.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, mixed bag.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't necessarily advocate for dragging your children places.

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<v Speaker 2>Really against their will. Really, okay, I mean that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing. That's a good thing to advocate against. When like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember early days when you were in church

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<v Speaker 2>as a child? Were you bored? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I fell asleep a lot. My mom is she's got

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<v Speaker 4>really soft arms. I love you, mommy, if you ever

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<v Speaker 4>see this, And so I would just fall asleep on

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<v Speaker 4>her arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Our church. I think was also aware that there.

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<v Speaker 4>Were children there consistently because we had crosswords and word

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<v Speaker 4>searches in the back of the bullet O.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, did anything stuck in your head, like were

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<v Speaker 2>there any sermons that got into your head that you

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<v Speaker 2>were like, all right, I'm kind of vibing with this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it was more Sunday school. It was

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<v Speaker 4>more the time geared towards kiddos where I got to see, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus is cool and like he doesn't necessarily want me

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<v Speaker 4>to dress up in things that like choke me on

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<v Speaker 4>Sunday mornings and go sit and fall asleep in church

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<v Speaker 4>for two hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he does like want to talk to me

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<v Speaker 2>about stuff. What do you talk to Jesus about everything? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>My god, is there any topics off? Have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>started talking to him? And He's like, keep that one

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<v Speaker 2>to yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Never.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, it's scary to me how much I can

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<v Speaker 4>just hear him say yeah, keep going cool, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>What I want. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like and he withholds judgment?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>That's thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not even that he withholds judgment so much as

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<v Speaker 4>I feel so clearly his love.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>I think our best friends, like in the world aren't

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<v Speaker 4>people that would let us go like smoke crack on

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<v Speaker 4>a Saturday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope. So so if like, so, I know Jesus is non judgmental,

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<v Speaker 2>But if you told if you were talking to Jesus, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you were like, I have this deep compulsion. Something

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<v Speaker 2>about the air on this brisk Saturday afternoon is making

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<v Speaker 2>me want to smoke crack.

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<v Speaker 3>What would he say?

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<v Speaker 1>Would he be like, what's a good friend say to that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think if I could, in this moment be Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, please Lord, uh please be Jesus.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say, maybe what's wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you need help?

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<v Speaker 4>Do we need to have a conversation. We can go

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere and eat some food and talk about it. Crack

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<v Speaker 4>isn't the answer. Crack is whack, as Whitney would say. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>though her action, never mind, let's not talk about Whitney.

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<v Speaker 1>My bad Whitney. Yeah, she was into crack.

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<v Speaker 3>She was.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever see that this isn't popp But if you

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<v Speaker 2>ever see someone on crack and they a little like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing about crack is obviously we all know

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<v Speaker 2>that crack is a like is a long term bad play.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're looking to have a phenomenal fit, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have a great life, you stay away from it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have an awesome ten minutes. Yeah, it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>it could be fun for those ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>So I went to a Christian college who won't name it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I literally had a professor who we were talking

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<v Speaker 4>about like really old people that would come speak at

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<v Speaker 4>the college. And there's one guy who passed away like

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<v Speaker 4>in the last five years, who was like ninety eight

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<v Speaker 4>when he passed whoa and like around his ninety fifth

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<v Speaker 4>birthday that the university was celebrating. This professor was like

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<v Speaker 4>just in confidence with the students, said, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>I was his age, you know, I'd wake up and

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<v Speaker 4>I'd try crack because.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay it yeah, you know, yeah, no, it's wait, is

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<v Speaker 2>that you though? Which so if you if you turn

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight, are you gonna are you gonna do heroin?

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>About trying heroin.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like by the time I get to ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 4>it's almost like a sense of I've seen so much

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<v Speaker 4>and I've done so many things.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I really want to try the heroine?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe maybe the horse will be for me when I

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<v Speaker 4>turned ninety three?

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<v Speaker 2>But oh rhyme, maybe the horse will be for me

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<v Speaker 2>when I turned ninety three. That sounds like something from

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<v Speaker 2>like a Bob Dylan song. Cannot confirm what So we

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<v Speaker 2>talked a little bit before you came on on camera.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not from New York, right, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do? What do you where are you from?

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<v Speaker 1>And what are you doing in town?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So I am from San Antonio, Texas. Cool so very

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<v Speaker 4>much deep south central oh Texas, Praise God. But I

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<v Speaker 4>am here with this group and one of the things

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<v Speaker 4>that they want to do and encourage other artists to

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<v Speaker 4>do is be.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, salt and light.

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<v Speaker 4>That's very Jesus Bible centered, Bible dog whistle if you will,

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<v Speaker 4>But be Sultan light in their artists community wherever they're from.

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<v Speaker 2>And how does like, logistically speaking, how does one be

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<v Speaker 2>Sultan light?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? So I would say it looks like being a

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<v Speaker 4>safe person to bring hard questions.

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<v Speaker 1>To a safe person to bring hard questions too. Yeah, love,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's great and a safe place to grieve, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>to mourn.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was talking to your bosom buddy over there, buddy,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, we're angry doggo but and we just

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<v Speaker 4>talked about how you guys have been in the arts

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<v Speaker 4>communist community since you were small.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me and from a from behind the camera, we've

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<v Speaker 2>we've been making movies together since at least twelve years

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<v Speaker 2>ago something like that twelve, thirteen, fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we've been we've been at it for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>So what we were.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking about is I asked him if his experience of

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<v Speaker 4>the arts community theory or I keep mixing community and

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<v Speaker 4>ministry but we're gonna stick to community of arts was

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<v Speaker 4>positive or negative, because depending on the vein that you're

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<v Speaker 4>in and the place that you're in in that arts community,

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<v Speaker 4>it can be really detrimental, really poisonous almost. I'm a

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<v Speaker 4>musician by trade and training, and musicians can be really

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<v Speaker 4>harsh and mean. I think anytime there is a space

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<v Speaker 4>where you're asked and responsible for bringing a gift that

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<v Speaker 4>comes from inside of you, there's such an insecurity and

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<v Speaker 4>some people can turn towards to be frank, bullying and

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<v Speaker 4>putting people down to make themselves feel worthy for.

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<v Speaker 6>The gift that been given.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think my experience with arts ministry in

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<v Speaker 4>that space has been just communicating you are enough, like

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<v Speaker 4>this gift is beautiful, not because it's better than anybody else's,

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<v Speaker 4>but because it's a gift.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this question, what do you what's

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<v Speaker 2>your opinion? Okay, so you're familiar with the tortured artist trope, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and people, there's a lot of people out there who

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<v Speaker 2>their whole thing is they they have made a successful

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<v Speaker 2>career out of hating themselves into being better.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look, I've I've fell victim to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people that's their modest OPERENDI

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<v Speaker 2>is like, if I keep hating myself and I keep

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<v Speaker 2>believing I'm not enough, I will that's gonna motivate me,

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<v Speaker 2>propel me for and like, look, undenial, you cannot deny

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<v Speaker 2>it as part.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the hero's journey.

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<v Speaker 2>That has is part of the hero's journey. It has

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<v Speaker 2>resulted in a lot of great art. But you seem

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<v Speaker 2>as though you seem like a person who comes at

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<v Speaker 2>these things from a much more positive place. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>how how how does what do you think about the

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<v Speaker 2>sort of tortured artist way of doing things? And and

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe somebody who's listening who does who tries to

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<v Speaker 2>hate themselves into submission? What would you say to them

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<v Speaker 2>about perhaps an alternative path?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would say, You're loved and you're beautiful just

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<v Speaker 4>the way that you are. I would say that that

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<v Speaker 4>is absolutely normal. It is absolutely normal to experience self

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<v Speaker 4>deprecating thoughts to experience the deep and abiding insecurity that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>would cause you to hate your own experience because it hurts.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not crazy, Yeah, you're not so broken that you

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<v Speaker 4>won't find community. But I would say that from a

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus perspective, here it goes, here, it goes. That's not

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<v Speaker 4>what he wants, that's not why he gave you that gift.

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<v Speaker 4>He gave you the gift to enjoy and to be enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 4>And hopefully you find a community where that is your experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Even if you don't agree with Jesus as a whole

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<v Speaker 4>or Christianity.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get it. Sure. Well here's well, here's the funny

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<v Speaker 2>thing is when you say, because like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these like tenants and values, even if you you know

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<v Speaker 2>you're an atheist and you don't necessarily believe in, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a god or spirituality, you can sub it

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<v Speaker 2>in as like.

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<v Speaker 1>That is good advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, even if you don't like believe in Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>it is good advice to be like, hey, if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a talent, you have a thing you like doing,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay to just enjoy doing it and enjoy the process.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, you know, fucking hate yourself. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what whatever your idea of a higher power

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<v Speaker 2>that exists in the universe wants. Yeah, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>even if you are the higher power, why would you

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<v Speaker 2>want to hate yourself? Yeah, that's a good question. Yeah, Tabitha,

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<v Speaker 2>I have I have one find a question for you.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about bitcoin?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Where does it go?

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<v Speaker 4>And uh? And uh will it matter in twenty years?

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<v Speaker 2>All great questions that perhaps one day we will find

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<v Speaker 2>the answers to.

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<v Speaker 1>Tabitha. Thank you very much for for chatting.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a good rest of the day. Appreciate Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to plug anything? You can plug as

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<v Speaker 2>something if you want Jesus, plug Jesus. Where can we follow?

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody has the Jesus Instagram handle right like?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he?

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea? Is he honest?

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<v Speaker 1>Someone?

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<v Speaker 2>Dog is so cute. It's a cute dog. Sorry for

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<v Speaker 2>the audio listeners, they can't see this dog. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>precious it's it's it's covered in fluff, glitter, glitter. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a good dog. Golden but yeah, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Tabitha.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we can fiss, We can fist mom by Tabitha Bye.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a great conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>It is funny for those who listen on the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>because last we had a shout at Anthony, who I

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<v Speaker 2>still believe in by the way, I know we got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of negative comments by Anthony. If you're watching this,

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<v Speaker 2>I still believe in you. But it is nice to

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<v Speaker 2>get some alternative perspectives on the same thing. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's keep talking to folks. What's what's your name, Doug, Eli?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you doing? Nice to meet you. What's uh?

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's uh? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 6>Eli?

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<v Speaker 2>Has?

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<v Speaker 1>What brings you to the park today?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, Bro, I've just been here on a

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<v Speaker 6>trip and we just happened to cross by. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>even think we were supposed to be here. We just

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<v Speaker 6>happened to come back to regroup with everyone. Like you

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<v Speaker 6>can see behind the camera and.

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<v Speaker 2>All that Oh people right, oh, who who who are

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<v Speaker 2>all these people? Who's the for the those listening on

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<v Speaker 2>audio or actually even on video, there's a group of

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<v Speaker 2>about uh, this is not forty this is about twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five people.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are who are these people? Who are these folks?

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<v Speaker 6>Friends? People that come to s with me? You know

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<v Speaker 6>people that I like, I spend a lot of time

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<v Speaker 6>with and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 6>And my teachers, Oh your teacher?

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<v Speaker 2>What what? What like level of school is this?

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<v Speaker 6>Like tenth grade? It is like a charter school, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>charter school?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? And like so so you're so you're in tenth grade? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how's house tenth grade? What's going on in the high

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<v Speaker 2>school universe?

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<v Speaker 6>Pretty true? You know, you's got to worry about your

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<v Speaker 6>grades and all that. But and that's it's cool. It's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you have aspirations.

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<v Speaker 2>For the future?

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<v Speaker 6>What's an aspiration?

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<v Speaker 1>And aspiration is like something you want to do, oh.

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<v Speaker 6>Like hopefully go to college and all that, you know, cool,

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<v Speaker 6>study for what I want to be in maybe like

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<v Speaker 6>finances or like things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to make a lot of money?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you What do you do you have like

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<v Speaker 2>a thing you want to buy more than anything else, or.

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<v Speaker 6>Like a BMW you really want to buy?

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<v Speaker 2>I buy a BMW?

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>What about what would you what would you do if

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<v Speaker 2>you have like ten million dollars of your life quick?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, first, I'd probably help on my people out.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna be for real too nice, and then like

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<v Speaker 6>after that will obviously there's gonna be something left. So

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna worry about myself and just like preserve the

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<v Speaker 6>rest of the money and how to like stay with

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<v Speaker 6>the money, like more of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Cool? Yeah, okay, I have a question. You You have

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of paper in your hands. Oh yeah, can

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<v Speaker 2>I see what this piece of paper is? I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>read it. Oh, okay, this is pretty cool. Wanted for

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<v Speaker 2>good behavior.

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<v Speaker 6>Like the one I'm like the third one right there?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this is wait you're oh you're in this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a picture. What Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>It says Washington Square wanted for good behavior?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's you?

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<v Speaker 1>You're wanted for good behavior?

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<v Speaker 2>How did you? How did you? How did you get

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<v Speaker 2>to become wanted for good behavior? What kind of good

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<v Speaker 2>behavior have you've been?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I just try to be nicer to

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<v Speaker 6>like everyone around me whenever they talk to me and

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<v Speaker 6>all that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, positive energy, it needs to be spreaded a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Has does anyone ever push your buttons?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that?

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<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what does someone have to do to really get

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<v Speaker 2>to you?

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<v Speaker 6>Annoy me? Bug me? It's up in my shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like that, okay, yeah, all right, well let's see

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<v Speaker 2>I guess Oh, I'm sure I saw all these people here. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Why it's like noon, right, Why aren't you guys in class?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh? This is a school field trip, like you know

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<v Speaker 6>that they took us here like an educational thing, like

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<v Speaker 6>a field lesson?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I have to give you a permission slip to

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<v Speaker 1>be on here?

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<v Speaker 6>Do they have to?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have that, so it's gonna have to.

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<v Speaker 6>I was too late for that. I mean that, it's

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<v Speaker 6>pretty cool, you know. It's it's like the second one

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<v Speaker 6>I've really been on, because we did one last year.

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<v Speaker 1>But where'd you go?

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<v Speaker 2>You go to the Science Center.

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<v Speaker 6>It was like an eighth grade and move into like

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<v Speaker 6>Houston and San Antonio. It was pretty cool, like this

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<v Speaker 6>and all cool. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you are you one of those people? It was

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<v Speaker 2>my final question for you. Are you one of those folks?

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, yeah, I'm vibing with high school?

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<v Speaker 1>Life's great?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are you are you like I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here and be like a real person.

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<v Speaker 6>Really really, it's which is like it depends on what

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<v Speaker 6>kind of mood them in Like sometimes I just I

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<v Speaker 6>just like where I'm at right now, and then sometimes

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<v Speaker 6>I just like worry about the future ahead you feel

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<v Speaker 6>me and like I just want to get to the

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<v Speaker 6>money really fast, you know. To me, it's like one

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<v Speaker 6>of the more important things in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Get money into you into crypto.

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<v Speaker 6>Nah, I am like, I don't know how I do

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<v Speaker 6>know that. So like I'm not gonna do something I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I think based on what you just said,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a strong financial future ahead of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So like, but do you like live here in New York?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Yeah, yeah, I live here.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I'm here, sometimes I'm in various deserts, forests and

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<v Speaker 2>coal mountain slopes.

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<v Speaker 6>So you travel, Yeah, I've traveled.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like so it's like it's like this everywhere you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh what do you mean like this?

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<v Speaker 6>Or like you just set up the on your like

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<v Speaker 6>bow yeaes up.

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<v Speaker 1>Chairs, chat with people, hang out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just nice to I swear in my life, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just doing I don't know why I need to do

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<v Speaker 2>so much to just like I'm mainly just doing this

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of the house.

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<v Speaker 6>Like why you got like strict rules in your house

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<v Speaker 6>or like, what's what's a strict.

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<v Speaker 1>Rules in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's just if I'm in the house for

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<v Speaker 2>too long, I start to I start to melt, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I start to spiral, think about crazy shit. Dude, Yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>I was yesterday, I was just thinking I was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was in my house for too long. I started thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I started wondering whether or not my dad

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<v Speaker 2>was real.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, every thinking about crazy stuff. I kind of

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<v Speaker 6>have that problem too, you know. You know, need you

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<v Speaker 6>like do something with your selfie for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, or else just start questioning reality. But listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to right now about seventy I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>least seventy eight percent sure that this is all real

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<v Speaker 2>right now, And that's pretty good. And I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>sitting down and chat with me. What's your name one

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<v Speaker 2>more time? Eli, Eluys or anything else you want to

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<v Speaker 2>say to the people in the computer before we go.

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<v Speaker 6>It's gonna be on TikTok and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know, I might, I might not do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I might just I might never post this. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>probably gonna post it on as a podcast and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Why you want to just try and shut yourself out

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<v Speaker 2>or something.

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to be on TikTok so like people

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<v Speaker 6>can see me. I'll be cool.

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<v Speaker 2>You on YouTube?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, YouTube, YouTube school too?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Like that cool?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, take care of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? What's your name?

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<v Speaker 7>Trinity?

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<v Speaker 1>Trinity? It's a wonderful name. Trinity Rain. What's up, Trinity Rain?

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<v Speaker 2>What Trinity Rain? I got a question for you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what's one of the most persistent thought on your mind lately?

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<v Speaker 2>What have you been thinking about?

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<v Speaker 7>If there's life on other planets?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and if they're aware of us, or if it

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<v Speaker 8>mimics what we do in our daily lives, if they're

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<v Speaker 8>just aliens and I don't know, they don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you come to any hypotheses conclusions on this.

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<v Speaker 8>I do believe that there's life on other planets, but

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know if they're aware of us and they

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<v Speaker 8>just think we're so minimalistic they don't care to interact,

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<v Speaker 8>or if they also aren't aware and don't have the

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<v Speaker 8>means of reaching out to us.

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading an article once and it said something

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, even if there is like life.

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<v Speaker 2>Like consciousness is like a spectrum, and so we aren't

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<v Speaker 2>like the final most conscious beings on earth, but and

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<v Speaker 2>we but we're on a spectrum, which means that like

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<v Speaker 2>we're more conscious than a chicken. Right, But there almost

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<v Speaker 2>inevitably exists something that's more conscious than us, but we

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<v Speaker 2>can't understand them anymore than like a chicken can understand

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<v Speaker 2>the context of our world. Isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 7>Very crazy?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>What do you believe? Are you an atheist?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I like, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I think I was like, yeah, we're just

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<v Speaker 2>all going on the ground and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>There's too much that I've accepted.

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<v Speaker 2>There's too much that I don't know to make a

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<v Speaker 2>claim of any kind. So I'm just gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>be a gecko and m h run around. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna try to do my best on this whatever I'm

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing right now. But I was thinking, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we just go in the ground and that's it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but consciousness is a trip, it is, and there's got there.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be surprised if there was something more to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's also I was dead for most of a life,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll be dead for most of eternity. But maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the whole like and I'm going on such

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<v Speaker 2>a rant right now, but the whole like energy can't

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<v Speaker 2>be created or destroyed. So like maybe I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll maybe I'll be a Maybe I'll be like

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<v Speaker 2>one of the trees at the Rainforest Cafe that talks,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the one I'm talking about with the eyes.

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<v Speaker 7>I think I'm thinking too small.

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<v Speaker 8>I think there's maybe a whole other planet filled with

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<v Speaker 8>geckos who are waiting for you to come back home.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's where you departed from, oh Man, because I

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<v Speaker 8>questioned what made you want to be a gecko in

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<v Speaker 8>the first place?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, well today, maybe want to be a gecko was

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<v Speaker 2>to have fun, get out of the house and chat

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<v Speaker 2>with folks and feel great. You know?

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<v Speaker 7>Is that what you want your legacy to be? Essentially?

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<v Speaker 2>You just I'm not obsessed with legacy because legacy is

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<v Speaker 2>like no one cares really about anyone or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Even people who have legacy like Abraham.

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<v Speaker 2>How many times a year do you think about Abraham Lincoln?

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<v Speaker 8>I had a seventh grade teacher who made me memorize

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<v Speaker 8>like four scorn of years ago, the Gettysburg Address, the

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<v Speaker 8>getty Burg Address, and I had to perform in front

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<v Speaker 8>of the class, So you and that.

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<v Speaker 2>But since that's subjective. Since then, how many times a

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<v Speaker 2>day do you think about Abraham Lincoln?

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<v Speaker 7>Zero?

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<v Speaker 1>Zero? Nobody gives no, one really gives a shit about him.

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<v Speaker 7>That's very true.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows who he is vaguely, but nobody really. So

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<v Speaker 2>his legacy didn't I'm not gonna say Abraham Lincoln didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>He did some stuff, but like, you can't be thinking

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<v Speaker 2>too much about how people are gonna think about you

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<v Speaker 2>when you're gone, because ultimately, nobody's really thinking about you

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<v Speaker 2>at all. Ever, even if you're Abraham Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, what are you gonna do? You're gone?

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<v Speaker 2>Gone?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do here in New York?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm studying film and television?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I studied film and television?

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<v Speaker 7>Really film major?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Okay, yeah. Are you not to put a damper

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<v Speaker 2>on anything? But are you afraid of graduation?

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<v Speaker 8>I guess so in a sense, yes, But I'd rather

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<v Speaker 8>do what I love, you know, than succumb to a

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<v Speaker 8>job that I hate clocking into every day, because I

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<v Speaker 8>feel like I would just end my shit.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'd rather be happy, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Struggling, what what do you want to do? What's your

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<v Speaker 2>dream film thing?

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<v Speaker 8>Writing, directing, character driven dramas, things like that. But I

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<v Speaker 8>really like studying people, characters, things like that. I feel

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<v Speaker 8>like life imitates art. You know, you and yourself are

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<v Speaker 8>a character. You know, And I have a question for you.

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<v Speaker 8>Because break out from getting the green face paint all

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<v Speaker 8>the time?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I break out from eating shitty. I break out

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<v Speaker 2>from having McDonald's every day. I don't break that makeup

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 2>is There's a lot of variables as to why I

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<v Speaker 2>might have acne, and I'm going to say that the

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<v Speaker 2>makeup is not part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not part of it.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, Yeah, good to know, appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>What's uh, what's it like being at NYU?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, how's the community, how's the film scene?

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<v Speaker 7>It's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm very grateful to even be there, especially because, like

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<v Speaker 8>I have a scholarship. But that does make me feel

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<v Speaker 8>like certain people I can't mesh with because they're in

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<v Speaker 8>a completely different tax.

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<v Speaker 7>Bracket than me. So oh okay, I just like sitting

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<v Speaker 7>back and observing sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, do they make you watch because all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I went to a film school, and I had a

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<v Speaker 2>professor at film school who was I think he was

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<v Speaker 2>about ninety eight years old and still around. He was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone watch, Uh, we're gonna watch Birth of a Nation

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<v Speaker 2>by something Griffith. I think, okay, And we're all sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there like, what the fuck are we paying tens of

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of dollars? Like what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And is it still like that? Is it still like

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's like, what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Certain times I remember vividly last semester we watched like

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<v Speaker 8>a three hour film in a foreign language with no subtitles,

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<v Speaker 8>and we were supposed to focus on the camera work,

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<v Speaker 8>but I just had this moment of like.

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<v Speaker 7>What am I watching? Why am I here?

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<v Speaker 10>You know?

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<v Speaker 7>Would I be better somewhere else?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? Are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you from New York?

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<v Speaker 7>Would you guess that?

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<v Speaker 2>But vibe?

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<v Speaker 7>Do I give region?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna guess. I wouldn't be surprised if you. Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 2>you're wearing an NFL hat of some kind? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>the Broncos?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know? From Denver? Denver rocks Man. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a good time.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah you've ever been?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've been I go to I've pretty much been

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<v Speaker 2>to Denver like four or five times. I've done like

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<v Speaker 2>some shows there. I've gone there just to hang out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've probably talked about this on the podcast before,

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<v Speaker 2>but the first time I went to Denver, I stayed

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<v Speaker 2>at the most awesome Airbnb of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called Yeah, it was called Hostile Cush.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like if the guy who sold you weed

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 2>in high school turned his house into a hotel nice

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and you're just like in a basement with a bunch

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 2>of people like smoking blunts inside.

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty awesome. Yeah, shout out Hostel Cush.

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they're still around, but yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what uh?

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<v Speaker 1>What's what are you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You miss Denver?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 8>No, no, I missed the mountains, but I feel like

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 8>I like New York a lot better. Yeah, there's more

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 8>for me here, I would say, but that's subjective.

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's less isolation.

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Yeah, there's more community here.

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 9>I would say, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're making friends in college.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm trying to say yes and succeeding.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you met any enemies?

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 6>Mmm?

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe, I don't know if they would call me their enemy,

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 8>but there are some people who I'm like, Okay, you

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 8>were raised very differently than I will.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but have you felt like, have you felt the

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<v Speaker 2>presence of any shade?

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 7>Have you felt as though the presence of shade?

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<v Speaker 3>Ye?

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:55.159
<v Speaker 7>Yes I have, Yes, I have.

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.360
<v Speaker 2>And you know, like we're not naming names, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>getting specific, but what is it that makes you feel

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 2>a shade?

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<v Speaker 8>I feel like people see me and they might assume

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 8>that I'm less competent than them because I'm in a

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.679
<v Speaker 8>different tax bracket, or because I'm a girl, or because

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 8>you know, I'm black, And I feel like, I don't know.

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 8>I don't want to think too much into it, so

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 8>I try not to read into it. But I do

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 8>feel like some people like mansplain certain things to me

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 8>and they're.

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<v Speaker 7>Like, well, yeah, the Matrix was a movie centered around

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm like, my name is Trinity. Like I've seen

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 7>the Matrix before, Like you.

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Know, I saw the Western name meaning Trinity. I mean

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen the Matrix. By the way, is there

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>a character in a name Trinity?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, So a lot of film bros associate my name

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.399
<v Speaker 8>with the Matrix and then they try to man explain

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:36.119
<v Speaker 8>certain things to me.

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 7>But I don't know. I don't take that is necessarily offensive.

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 2>What's going on with the film bros?

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Who?

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Who are the film bros? These days?

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 7>What's going on with the film bros? That's a great

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 7>question that I might want.

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>What's their movie? Because I had a big I was

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 2>a film bro. I had a big poster of pulp

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<v Speaker 2>fiction in my uh, in my dorm room.

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<v Speaker 7>So your descendants are still active today?

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 6>Okay?

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 2>And there are we still worshiping pulp fiction, Quentin, it's

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 2>the post They're still around. Yes, have you been in

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 2>a dorm room and seen pulp fiction posters? I have?

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>That makes me as happy as it makes me sad.

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<v Speaker 7>Really, you're a pulp fiction fan.

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen it in a long time, but you know,

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 2>it's a good It was kind of fun to have

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 2>it be like my identity for a little bit.

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I could see that.

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Pulp Fiction, American Psycho fight Club. Those are the

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 8>top three film bro fanatic.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you fuck with those movies?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean they're not.

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 8>Bad, but I don't worship them. I don't have them

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 8>printed out on every side of my dorm room.

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>To do you have a movie or a thing printed

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<v Speaker 2>out on every side of your dorm room.

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 8>No, but I do like Sean Baker the Florida Project, Anora.

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 8>I like that sort of genre of filmmaking.

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>But cool, cool, all right, final final.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing, finally answer, what's do you have a movie in

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 2>the works? M if people? What's you had? Two named

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<v Speaker 2>Trinity Trinity Rain?

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<v Speaker 1>So if people people are good?

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 2>This is the first appearance of the of the to

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 2>be famous film director Trinity Rain.

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>What uh what? What's?

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 2>What's what's the what's the idea that people can be

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>excited to see you on the screen from you soon? Well?

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 7>I write and direct.

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 8>I really like, you know, character driven dramas, and I'm

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 8>just casting people all over from New York.

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 7>You don't have to act.

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 8>I love people who actually emit the character that I'm writing.

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 8>So sometimes I might make a film and write a

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 8>certain character into it. But I mean, am I okay

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 8>to plug my Instagram?

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Go plug away, go crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>Trin two like the number two cosmic trind to cosmic

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 7>on Instagram if you care. My page is not as

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 7>cool as the real geck go.

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 2>You gotta get and I by the hold on, I'm

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 2>about to give really hypocritical advice Okay, I'm listening, but

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>you gotta get a less fucked up user name because

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<v Speaker 2>once you because once you start having to be like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Trinity with uh, there's a period here, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>two and there's an underscore.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine is Lyle for I always have to go It's

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle forever.

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<v Speaker 9>But the four is a four?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, but throws them off a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Trinity Grace taken?

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 8>I keep saying to get that today every variation is taken.

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 8>There's one girl who has Trinity Rain, but she hasn't

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 8>been active in like five ten years. So I wanted

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 8>to find her business email and be like, I will

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 8>cash at you just for the rights to that user name.

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 7>She's gone. She's a ghost.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey what about Rain Wilson.

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<v Speaker 7>Rain Wilson, Where does the Wilson come from?

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<v Speaker 1>Let you know, from the office?

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<v Speaker 7>Ah? Maybe? But is that impostor?

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 7>Am I impersonating? Would you think? Because that's not me?

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 7>I'm not Wilson. What do you think My last question

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 7>for you? What do you think my suld be?

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<v Speaker 2>What I think your name should be? Trinity Rain Wilson.

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I bet that's not taken. I bet that's not taken.

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 2>I bet Trinity Rain Wilson is not all right, so

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you can follow her on Trinity tea Trinity but with

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 2>two's instead of the entities. Yes, or and if she's

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>not there, maybe she changed it to Trinity.

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<v Speaker 7>Rain will Wilson. I'll let you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Rain.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much by Trinity Raim of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a seat.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, sir, have a seat, Have a seat. What is

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 2>your name?

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Sava.

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Sava. Yeah, what what's the origin of that?

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 3>It's from Serbia. I'm from Serbia.

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh cool?

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Are were you born there? Uh?

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 3>No, I was born in Florida. My parents are Serbian.

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>O savak you a favorite hold it like a little

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>bit closer.

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then I moved to Serbia when I was

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 3>nine years old.

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>What's lifelike in Serbia?

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Uh, It's really good. It's actually very peaceful. Right now,

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 3>we're having some problems with corruption. There's a lot of

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 3>protest going on, okay, but usually it's very nice.

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Actually, so I guess coming from I'm curious about this,

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Not to get into a bunch of shit, but I

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>am curious coming from a place that is having like

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 2>its own issues with like corruption and the government and

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 2>like protests and stuff. Do you look at America like

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 2>that's nothing, or do you look at America like, oh,

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 2>you guys, I see what's some shit's going down?

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there's shit going down here. I think

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 3>think the difference is here they do it somehow, like legally,

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 3>let's say, for example, lobbying. Yeah, it's like, you know,

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 3>a corporation sponsors a politician to push their agenda. Whereas

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 3>there it's like, you know, a guy pays the guy

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 3>under the table so he can illegally construct a building

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 3>or something.

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 2>So we're doing the same thing that's going on in Serbia,

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 2>but we're doing it. We've created a system where it's legal.

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 3>In a way. Yeah, I would say that, Yeah, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Brought you here to the States?

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 3>I came here for modeling and acting.

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Modeling and acting, Yes, sir, Okay, that's pretty cool. What

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 2>how's the modeling industry?

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 3>It's good, the modeling industry, it's it's interesting. Yeah, I

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 3>guess it varies from different perspectives. I would say that

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 3>I didn't really like if I could put it in

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 3>two ways, there's the guy who wanted to be or

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 3>girl who wanted to be a model, and then so

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.040
<v Speaker 3>they take it very serious. And then there's also the

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 3>ones that got stopped on the street and kind of

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 3>got into it, and then they don't take it as serious.

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 2>And which one is you?

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 3>The second one?

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Second one? Okay, see one doesn't take it as serious.

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you can see in the face, Like

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.800
<v Speaker 2>you can see in the face of the model who's

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 2>the most serious. Because if someone's doing like a real

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 2>serious model face, like they're opposing for Vogue or whatever. Yeah,

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 2>but like if someone like like I was in Target

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 2>and the people wearing those clothes they're just laughing, you

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 2>can tell they're having a good time. I know it's

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.760
<v Speaker 2>posed that way, but I do still believe that they're

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 2>just they just were having a good time when they

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 2>were smiling and laughing.

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, my target pay is probably much higher than

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 3>those high fashioned brands pay. Surprisingly.

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>What kind of who? What kind of like clients have

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you modeled for?

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I've modeled for a few. I'd say the one that

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 3>I take the most pride in would be Polo. Ralph

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Lourenzo a model for Polo. Yeah, did they give you

0:34:56.600 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 3>free shit? Everybody asked that no free underwear? Because I

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 3>came in boxers, and they were like, you know, you

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 3>can't be wearing random boxers. So they give you, like,

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:11.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, polo underwear. But no, but the people who

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 3>do work for them get a fifty percent discount. But

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>but I technically am like a free lance so I

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 3>technically don't.

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 2>So what's your hinge look like? Does a crash your

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 2>phone every time you open it?

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Actually I haven't had hinge in a long time. I'm

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 3>going to show you something I think you'll like this. Okay, please,

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 3>this is my phone you have a clan.

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>For for those on audio this this guy is a

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.840
<v Speaker 2>bedazzled flip phone. Wow.

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Holy shit?

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Is that?

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's what you've been rocking with. That's what I've

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 2>been rocking with, the bedazzle flip phone.

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 3>I think it's about four months now. I do. I

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 3>don't want to, you know, say I don't have I

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.399
<v Speaker 3>do have an Android phone at home when I need

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 3>to use Instagram and stuff like that, I still have it.

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 3>But this is what I carry around for my everyday use. Wow.

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, and.

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 2>So what made you decide to downgrade or get a

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 2>second pune?

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I think, uh, the main thing was was actually a

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 3>little bit of nostalgia because when I was younger in Serbia,

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 3>I had a Nokia and I also been dazzled it,

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 3>and I just kind of missed that era of when

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:17.240
<v Speaker 3>I was, when I was a kid and I didn't

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 3>really care about about you know, those certain things. Yeah,

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 3>and so I decided to go back to it. This

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 3>one though, it has touch screen, it has Google Maps.

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 3>What's up? An email? So I can still get my

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 3>work done without you know, having to use a smartphone.

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 2>That one has Google Maps.

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 3>It does?

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:37.399
<v Speaker 2>It's that seems so annoying to use Google Map. Yeah,

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 2>it's type on it? Is it like you actually have

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:41.399
<v Speaker 2>to hit like one two three?

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 3>You can do one two three. But it's touch screen

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 3>as well, so you can you can do like the

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 3>little keypad on the touch screen.

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 2>But no Instagram, porn, no redit.

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Well you could probably watch porn on it, but it

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 3>has Google but I personally don't watch porn on on

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 3>my flip phone.

0:36:56.640 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Good for you, now, what how do you you do

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 2>you feel because a lot of people they have the fear,

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 2>myself included of like, okay, if I'm not carrying around

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:07.840
<v Speaker 2>my phone with me at all times, how am I

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:10.240
<v Speaker 2>going to be connected to the world.

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>How do you But okay, so you have a skateboard, right?

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Are you so you're a skater, sir?

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Is the skate world just like if I show up

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:22.439
<v Speaker 2>to this physical location, I know that there will be

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 2>friends and people like that.

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 3>That is kind of exactly what it's what it's like,

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, shout out to skateboarding because wherever I've traveled

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 3>in the world, if I brought my skateboard with me,

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 3>I was able to meet a local person. I was

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.800
<v Speaker 3>able to be introduced to the culture, to the cool spots.

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 3>And I think if I didn't have a skateboard, it

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 3>would be harder to integrate into certain, you know, places

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:46.879
<v Speaker 3>when I visited them.

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 2>So that's what you need.

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Everyone needs their metaphorical skateboard.

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 2>You know that can kind of connect you wherever you

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 2>go because whenever you're like, hobby is it's cool because

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:02.800
<v Speaker 2>it's I mean, most hobbies are kind of represented around

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 2>the world, whether it's like fucking, you know, kickball or whatever,

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and you kind of find your way to pick your

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 2>spots in it. What how long you've been skating for

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 2>about eight years? How have you fucked You're gotten fucked up?

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 3>I've gotten fucked up. Thank god, I haven't broken anything,

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 3>but but yeah, I mean every single time I go out,

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 3>I get a little fucked up. The worst thing so

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:28.879
<v Speaker 3>far I've got fucked up is my back. Yeah it's

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 3>still a little bit fucked up now, but yeah, only

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 3>only like twisted ankles where I'm out for like two

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 3>months and stuff like that. But surprisingly it it's kind

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 3>of nice. You know. It's when you fall, it's it's

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 3>it's hard to explain it, but sometimes you're just so

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 3>full of shit and you go out on your skateboard

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:49.879
<v Speaker 3>and it beats you up and it kind of puts

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 3>you back in your place.

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, have you've had that part where you're like,

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do everyone watch this, I'm gonna do a

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 2>backflip and your skateboards like nope.

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah. Usually it's when I see a group of

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 3>cute girls, for example, and then and then it's I

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 3>won't even try anything crazy, but you know, karma or

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 3>whatever you want to call it just just kicks in

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 3>and then you just spill right in front of them

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 3>and then kind of get a little embarrassed and put

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 3>in your place.

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how's your dating life in New York.

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not that good.

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 1>No, are you, like, are you going on dates or anything?

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've been on it. Actually I was supposed to

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 3>go on a date two days ago. It was a

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 3>very nice date. We planned to go to the Botanical gardens, Wow,

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 3>which are beautiful. I met the girl here in Washington

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Square Park and last minute she did this weird thing.

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 3>She sent me a message. She said, let's play a

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 3>game with the universe. Are you ready for this? Play

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 3>a game with the universe. We're not going to go

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 3>on the date tomorrow, but if we see each other

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 3>again in the streets, then it's meant to be. And

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 3>I was, you know, I tried to take it like

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 3>like she was trying to be cool, but then somebody

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 3>told me no, she just didn't know how to like

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 3>say no, so she she used that excuse. I don't

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 3>know which one it is.

0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 2>That's that's an awesome line. Yeah, let's play a game

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 2>with the universe. If we see each other again, it's

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 2>meant to be.

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she's gonna get fucked because what if she

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 1>sees you again? Yeah, let's play another another game. We

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>see each other a third time?

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm wearing a pink.

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Hat, and I happen to be wearing a pink hat, and.

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Then it's meant to be. Yeah, I don't know. But

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 3>then my friend he told me, he said, you should

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 3>value yourself and not really let it get to And

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 3>then he came last minute, he clocked out of his job.

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Shout out, rafa. He clocked out of his job and

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.800
<v Speaker 3>came with me to the botanical gardens. So I didn't

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:41.800
<v Speaker 3>go alone because I bought the tickets and everything.

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 2>So wow, you got, you got, dude. The scre is

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 2>he's a skater, skater, skate community. It seems like it

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 2>looks out for each other.

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 3>We do, We try to, you know, I mean, as

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:53.919
<v Speaker 3>in every community. Sometimes you know, you get you get

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 3>a douchebag here and there, but but mostly we're cool

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:00.959
<v Speaker 3>guys who kind of you know, you know. There's it's nice.

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 6>It's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll ask you a couple more questions before you

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here. What's your what's your dream in life?

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<v Speaker 3>Sir?

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 2>What do you want to do with yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually I was listening to the last girl. I

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 3>also want to do writing and and make a movie.

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of my dream let's just say, make one movie.

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:20.760
<v Speaker 2>One movie. Yeah, they're actually are you familiar with the movie?

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 2>A serbian film?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, don't ever watch that. Don't ever watch

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:29.320
<v Speaker 3>that movie. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, you can make.

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>A serbian film too, and it's just people hugging.

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<v Speaker 2>For an hour and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a that's a really good idea actually, because you know,

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 3>if you can imagine the opposite of people hugging for

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:41.399
<v Speaker 3>an hour and a half, that's kind of a good

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 3>way to explain the.

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:44.439
<v Speaker 2>Opposite of people hugging for an hour and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, in the worst type of a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 3>not a good not a good movie at all.

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 6>But but yeah, nice man.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, uh, let's see from how long have we been

0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 2>going for? Forty two?

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you got a time limit on this.

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm trying to get to an hour, I would say, okay, yeah,

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I have more things I want to

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 2>ask you.

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 3>How about mom against marijuana? Oh?

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a mom a mom against marijuana.

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 2>Are you a weed guy?

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, I smoke weed. Lately, I haven't been smoking

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 3>as much because and this is a shared experience with

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people that I've heard is at one

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 3>point it stopped making them feel giggly and happy and

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 3>it started making them feel like paranoid and anxious. Oh yeah,

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You haven't gotten there yet.

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 3>No. I did get there, which is why I took

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 3>it down a little bit.

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.800
<v Speaker 3>But for example, when it comes to things like writing, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it helps me sometimes real though, so

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I'll like, I'm more of a when I get home

0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 3>and I'm alone, I'll smoke a spliff and it helps you. Yeah.

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was in high school and college and still

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 2>a little bit now, I had because you see, like

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Seth Rogen and like Snoop Dogg and Kevin Smith and

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 2>all these guys who and you have this thought in

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 2>your head that's so dumb, where you're like, I'm going

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 2>to get high and then I will magically and then

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 2>because I got high, I will magically, effortless, effortlessly create

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<v Speaker 2>something awesome.

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 2>Then you realize it doesn't it doesn't, yeah, And then

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 2>you get high, you get anxious yeah.

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, or you know it's up there somewhere, but

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 3>you can't write it out because you're just so high.

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 3>It's just like you know, yeah, but it works, it works,

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 3>it works. It works for me. It's more of a

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 3>like to get that idea, where then when I actually

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 3>want to get down and write, it's more like in

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:37.279
<v Speaker 3>the morning, drink of coffee and write it. But but

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 3>for the idea, I like to get high your ear.

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Get high and model or you like, wy are my

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.720
<v Speaker 2>thumbs lately?

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:47.760
<v Speaker 3>No, When I was when I was younger, I would

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 3>when I first got into it, I would smoke, like

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.879
<v Speaker 3>on the lunch break, I'd smoke a little split. But

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:54.799
<v Speaker 3>then again then it didn't hit me like that. Then

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 3>it would just be like, you know, I would just

0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 3>kind of be there. It wasn't that bad. Now, I

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 3>feel like if I were to get high at a job,

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 3>I would definitely be like, you know, does this guy

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 3>know I'm high? Am I doing something wrong? You know

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 3>what I mean? I'd be way up in my head

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 3>and it wouldn't be good at all.

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Where can the people? Where can the people find you?

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Do you want the people to find you?

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I guess you can find me. My name is

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Sava s A v A. My last my last name

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 3>is kind of hard Suvacharov s u v A c

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:32.719
<v Speaker 3>A r O V and that's my Instagram, my modeling instagram.

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I mean, if you want to find me,

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 3>you can. But I'm trying to actually do a transition

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 3>to to writing and acting. So if you need an actor,

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.439
<v Speaker 3>you can find me. If you need a model, maybe

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:43.479
<v Speaker 3>you can find someone else.

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, well, what's your name?

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 3>What's your name?

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm Lyle Lyle all right?

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you said it when you said your Instagram name.

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 2>You just said your name and I asked you I

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:57.800
<v Speaker 2>have I have pretty bad short term memory.

0:44:58.200 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 3>You think it's from smoking weed?

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Probably?

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Probably? Yea, you ever did mushrooms before?

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I'm trying to I'm trying to be just

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>a coffee guy now. Yeah, coffee and uh Reese's cups.

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 2>But that's it for me. Nice to meet you.

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Have a good rest of your entire life.

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 3>Brother, you too.

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:38.879
<v Speaker 2>Let's see who wants to talk? Come sit down here,

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 2>you have a seat you The people couldn't hear it,

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 2>but she just said, oh my god, this is so fancy.

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:45.720
<v Speaker 10>I mean, I wasn't expecting like a whole setup.

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 2>This is not I'm if if this is your I

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:54.319
<v Speaker 2>gotta say, if this is your, like, what's the word,

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 2>what's the barometer for a fancy then you're gonna have

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 2>an awesome life. You're you're easy to make happy, it

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:05.760
<v Speaker 2>would seem I appreciate that. What's your name, I'm Hannah,

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Hannah Lyleice to meet you. What's what's uh? What's the

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:14.879
<v Speaker 2>worst thing in the world right now? You think? What's

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 2>what's horrible? What's horrible?

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 7>I don't want to actually talk about it?

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, all right?

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 5>Probably politics?

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 8>Right?

0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, yeah, what's uh? What's going on with you?

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Hannah?

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<v Speaker 10>I have a lot of mid terms this week, so

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 10>I'm I'm I'm drowning in work.

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't have to do it?

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 7>What midterms?

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're right, I don't. I don't have to

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>do anything.

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to do You don't have to do anything. Yeah,

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 2>you can just let you know. What I've always wondered

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 2>is like, all right, you see like that spot over

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>there about like sometimes I'll do that, but be like,

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 2>how long could I just stand there before I'm physically removed?

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 1>And then where are they going to.

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Physically How like if you decide to stiffen up, right,

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:03.280
<v Speaker 2>like eventually the police will come to move you or whatever,

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 2>But then wherever they move you.

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 1>What if you just stiffen up there?

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Like, how how long can you actually literally not do anything?

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess eventually you starve to death.

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 7>But I guess so.

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.319
<v Speaker 10>But I guess that's what I'm kind of trying right

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:19.800
<v Speaker 10>now here, sitting with you instead of studying.

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 2>So what what do you study?

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:22.720
<v Speaker 5>Economics?

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Are we fucked like from your like from like

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 2>a text book and analysis? Because I've never read an

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:32.279
<v Speaker 2>economics textbook.

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 10>Maybe in the like next decade, i'd say, I'm not

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:38.720
<v Speaker 10>gonna lie, I'm not I'm a sophomore.

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what. Okay, you think we're fucked for

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 2>the next decade, but after that we'll be Okay, I'll

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 2>keep I'll.

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 10>Keep a pull, and I'm gonna i'll keep track of.

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>What's going on into tariffs should we do tariffs?

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:51.280
<v Speaker 7>Oh?

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.840
<v Speaker 10>I heard that's a political tactic for Do you listen

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 10>to the Daily?

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 2>No, you should listen to the it's a political tactic. Yeah, okay,

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:01.360
<v Speaker 2>so he so he's got a strategy.

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's like I mean, it's like economics.

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Sorright, So he's not just he's not just doing random

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 2>ship you think he's got like a plan.

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:13.959
<v Speaker 10>Well wait, I'm not I'm not sure. I'm not sure,

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 10>but I listened to a good daily podcast about it.

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, that's cool. We can just repeat what was

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:24.839
<v Speaker 2>going on on that podcast. I'm gonna spread misinformation, so

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.279
<v Speaker 2>that's okay. Look, this is the perfect podcast to spread

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 2>misinformation on because anyone who takes any information from this

0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:33.759
<v Speaker 2>show and then goes out and it's like I learned

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:36.719
<v Speaker 2>what tariffs are from the Talking Gecko Show, It's like.

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, well you fucked yourself.

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I really don't.

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:41.360
<v Speaker 10>I don't want to be the one to give the

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:42.160
<v Speaker 10>false information.

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 2>What do you do with your time away from the economics?

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:51.800
<v Speaker 7>You know? I actually came out here to journal.

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your journal a lot like I.

0:48:55.239 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 10>Just started, and I'm getting into like pilates Okay, like

0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:01.560
<v Speaker 10>everyone's doing that.

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:03.799
<v Speaker 2>I guess what what do you? What do you plan

0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:04.960
<v Speaker 2>to journal about today?

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:09.920
<v Speaker 10>Probably how stressed I am about my test coming up? Okay,

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:11.919
<v Speaker 10>but this is a good this is a good outlet too,

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:12.360
<v Speaker 10>I guess.

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, alternative Okay, what uh? I'm also avid journaler. I've

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:19.920
<v Speaker 2>been journaling for like eight years. I got like eight

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 2>years of journals and here's the problem with journals is

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 2>it journals call you out in a very specific way,

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 2>because what's gonna is is, if you journal long enough,

0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:34.759
<v Speaker 2>something very scary happens. Okay, so well, okay, Well it's

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:36.760
<v Speaker 2>a double edged sord. It's a double unch sword because

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.839
<v Speaker 2>you'll read a journal from five years ago, okay, and

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 2>and it's a double edged sword. You'll be like, oh,

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 2>this thing that I was dealing, like you were stressed

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 2>out about midterms, right, and then five years later you're like,

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I was stressed out about midterms. My life. My problems

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 2>are way worse now, you know what I mean, Like

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 2>I I can't even believe that this thing. But then

0:49:57.320 --> 0:49:59.760
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of good because now you understand the pattern

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 2>of like, whatever I'm stressed out about now, five years

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 2>from then, I won't even give a shit about. But

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.719
<v Speaker 2>here's where it's bad is you'll be like, Okay, five

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:11.920
<v Speaker 2>years ago, you'll say to yourself like I want to

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 2>change these things about my life. And if you're.

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:19.399
<v Speaker 1>It'll call you out because you'll be like.

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:22.760
<v Speaker 2>You'll look back and be like, oh crap, I still

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 2>have these issues from five years ago. Some of them linger,

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:28.640
<v Speaker 2>but some of them will change and go away. But

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:33.720
<v Speaker 2>it's good to have some documentation of what was bothering

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 2>you or what you wanted at some point in your

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 2>life and then compare it to your life now.

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 10>I also think it it's a I think overall it's

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 10>a positive thing. It's a positive thing, and like when

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:47.959
<v Speaker 10>you look back on it, it's like, oh, it gives

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 10>you more ease because you'll know that, like whatever you're

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 10>going through later, like oh, this is not going to

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 10>be as significant to me the next year or something, right, right, right,

0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:58.879
<v Speaker 10>So I don't know. I have to try it out

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 10>and I'll wait five years and see if that works.

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I don't know.

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 10>Nothing has happened yet, so i'll try.

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:06.760
<v Speaker 7>I'll try. I'll try to do that to journal.

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, all right, so our tariffs good or bad?

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:11.520
<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be on the test.

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 7>Can I give a no answer?

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 5>Please?

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:17.879
<v Speaker 1>Could you give a no no answer? Okay, you plead

0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the fifth.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm afraid I'm gonna say something wrong.

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess.

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could say the tariffs are good, the tariffs

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 2>are bad. And then but there's plausible deniability. Yeah, because

0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:34.760
<v Speaker 2>if someone I guess, there's plausible deniability because nothing, nothing's

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:35.879
<v Speaker 2>real or matters.

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<v Speaker 10>Wow, well I think that for me at least, like

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 10>when I go on social media and I see like

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 10>a lot of things spread and in my classes and

0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:49.720
<v Speaker 10>stuff we all learned about how like oh, you shouldn't

0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:51.920
<v Speaker 10>listen to these podcasts and you shouldn't read.

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 7>This on the news, and you shouldn't do this.

0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:56.799
<v Speaker 10>So like it makes it like really scary to like

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:58.759
<v Speaker 10>say what you want to say, because then it's like

0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:02.360
<v Speaker 10>I don't want to tribute to someone else thinking something

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:06.279
<v Speaker 10>wrong because of my misconception of something I don't really

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 10>know about.

0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:09.120
<v Speaker 2>But I think that isn't that like life? Isn't that

0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:11.880
<v Speaker 2>how we come to a content. Everyone just says stuff

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 2>and we kind of vote on what reality is.

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:18.399
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a vote, right, Like.

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:21.000
<v Speaker 10>You can say, like you, I feel like you have

0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:23.920
<v Speaker 10>to do like some sort of like research or like

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 10>fact checking before you.

0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Facts.

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Facts are a vote in a sense, right, Like, Okay,

0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 2>we like it's a fact. I'm pretty sure I just

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 2>ranted about this on on on the last podcast I

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:38.319
<v Speaker 2>put out, but I I'm gonna do it again, Like

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the sky is blue? Right, Okay, but how did that

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 2>become a fact?

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 3>It was?

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 2>It was kind of democratically decided and then grandfathered into

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 2>everyone's minds through through brainwashing that the sky is blue.

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 10>Okay, But then that causes some loopholks, and you're like, okay,

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:00.680
<v Speaker 10>it's blue is blue?

0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Who who decided blue was blue?

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:05.360
<v Speaker 10>What about like the color like the word, the phonetic

0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:07.520
<v Speaker 10>whatever pronunciation of blue?

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:08.319
<v Speaker 7>Like who said that?

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:10.279
<v Speaker 2>And I could sit here, Oh yeah, I was arguing

0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:11.920
<v Speaker 2>with the guy about truth, and I could sit here,

0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 2>and I could say the sky is green, and I

0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 2>have I have a vote. You know, I that is

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:20.320
<v Speaker 2>my vote. It's not my vote. I'll I'll go ahead

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:22.799
<v Speaker 2>and concede, or actually I'll abstain. I don't really give

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:24.640
<v Speaker 2>a fuck what color the sky is. But if my

0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 2>vote is that the sky is green, that's still my vote.

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm vastly outvoted by by textbooks, by society, by

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 2>the common consensus, but I still get a vote. It's

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:37.719
<v Speaker 2>still a democratic process.

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 7>I guess you're right.

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:39.359
<v Speaker 2>My vote just.

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, Right.

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:43.239
<v Speaker 5>It's not.

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:46.360
<v Speaker 7>It's just gonna be.

0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:48.279
<v Speaker 2>No one's gonna agree with you, right, no one's gonna

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 2>agree with me. But I still get my vote. In

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:52.239
<v Speaker 2>my own reality, because reality is I guess, the sum

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 2>total of everyone's subjective idea of it sort of right.

0:53:56.680 --> 0:54:00.160
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I mean you're right, just and then but and

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:02.480
<v Speaker 10>it's like if you think like that, then it's like, okay,

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:04.560
<v Speaker 10>so what's the fact and what's what's not a fact?

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:05.880
<v Speaker 7>Is fact the real truth?

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:07.920
<v Speaker 2>You shouldn't think about it too much. You should just

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:12.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of dude, yesterday, this doesn't mean anything. But I

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:15.640
<v Speaker 2>had to say is yesterday I went in to a

0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I went to Target, and I was like, and I

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:20.960
<v Speaker 2>asked the guy at the store if he knew where

0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:24.759
<v Speaker 2>something was, and I was like, I am. I am

0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 2>so deeply entrenched in reality right now, and it feels awesome.

0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:31.920
<v Speaker 2>So you should do stuff like that instead of wondering

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:32.920
<v Speaker 2>what color the sky is?

0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 7>You know, sorry, how did that relate to the color

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:36.360
<v Speaker 7>of the sky.

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Because it's like you could sit around questioning reality and

0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 2>wondering what color the sky is, or you can, like,

0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:45.240
<v Speaker 2>or you can go to a store and ask someone

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 2>where the where bottled water is and then go home

0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 2>and do dishes and then call your friend and tell

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:57.200
<v Speaker 2>them about a television show that you saw, and you

0:54:57.200 --> 0:55:01.360
<v Speaker 2>can just just accept just like keep acceptance of whatever

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:04.279
<v Speaker 2>life is, and without thinking about it, you'll have a

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 2>way better time.

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's what I'm saying.

0:55:06.960 --> 0:55:09.400
<v Speaker 7>I agree with that. I feel like I would do that.

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 2>What's your name again, Hannah?

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:11.920
<v Speaker 5>Hannah?

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Hannah's anything else you wants to the people of the

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:16.200
<v Speaker 2>computer before we.

0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 10>Go, No, I just want to ask you how you

0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:19.319
<v Speaker 10>got into this?

0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:25.839
<v Speaker 1>Uh today, I got into this. Bye, just on the suit.

0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, by putting on the suit, coming out here and

0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 2>setting up microphones and stuff. Nice. Thanks for talking to

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.760
<v Speaker 2>a gecko Hanks. Thanks see you around the universe.

0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Bye, Hannah. Hi, what is your name?

0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:38.400
<v Speaker 9>My name is Scott.

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Scott.

0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Nice to meet you.

0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:40.720
<v Speaker 9>Nice to meet you.

0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:44.600
<v Speaker 2>You're uh, you look very clean.

0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:47.879
<v Speaker 9>Thank you. Yeah. I try to, I don't know, try

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:48.800
<v Speaker 9>to dress a nice.

0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:49.880
<v Speaker 2>How often do you do laundry?

0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 9>I do laundry, like I guess, like once every six days.

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Probably laundry once every six days.

0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:55:57.160 --> 0:56:00.120
<v Speaker 9>Well it's like I just have the one hamper and

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 9>it's like once it gets like reasonably full, just throw

0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 9>the laundry in. Just do it like one load at

0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:05.920
<v Speaker 9>a time.

0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:06.239
<v Speaker 3>God.

0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:08.920
<v Speaker 2>That's I was just talking about being in reality and

0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:13.200
<v Speaker 2>not wondering what the sky was and you, I'm that's

0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 2>doing laundry six days a week is deep in in

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.800
<v Speaker 2>reality and I have so much respect for that, and

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 2>that's awesome, and I think I'm doing my best.

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:25.960
<v Speaker 9>I think I disagree listening in on your on your

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 9>take about facts. I think I disagree with your take

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 9>about the facts.

0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, you know what, that's your vote

0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 1>to disagree.

0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, this is why you can't disagree, because your disagreement

0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 2>is a vote.

0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:40.479
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think I agree with why vote? Okay, go ahead,

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:40.799
<v Speaker 1>go ahead?

0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:41.239
<v Speaker 2>What's your name?

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:42.080
<v Speaker 9>My name is Scott.

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Scott. Okay.

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:45.799
<v Speaker 9>I think there's a difference between facts that like are

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 9>have like a foundation in human experience. Yeah, there can

0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:52.360
<v Speaker 9>be like a disagreement on like how often is the

0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 9>And I guess that's even getting into opinion. But like

0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:57.440
<v Speaker 9>if you're asking, like you know, the fact of like

0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:02.320
<v Speaker 9>will styrofoam dissolve in like a certain acid? You can,

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:06.440
<v Speaker 9>you can vote no, but your vote isn't gonna change

0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:07.319
<v Speaker 9>the syrophoam.

0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you can.

0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 9>You can sit there and watch it and sure, but.

0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I can, but what is styrofoam?

0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 9>Well, I mean I guess, yeah, you can get into

0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:18.840
<v Speaker 9>this the you know, you can be pedantic about what

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:21.640
<v Speaker 9>counts as styrophoam. Yeah, sure, if we can agree on

0:57:21.760 --> 0:57:25.760
<v Speaker 9>like a constraint of like what the chemical compound of styrofoam.

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Is, Okay, okay, acid? So you're this is hilarious that

0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:32.919
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna I don't what I'm having. I'm having fun

0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:36.320
<v Speaker 2>having I'm having fun being an insane person right now.

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 8>What.

0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 2>So, yes, you're correct, It doesn't change the reality that

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:45.240
<v Speaker 2>skyrofoam does dissolve an acid. But what if everyone just

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:48.720
<v Speaker 2>said it didn't, Well, then who It's like the tree

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:50.640
<v Speaker 2>a tree falls in a forest, no one's around to

0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:51.000
<v Speaker 2>hear it.

0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Does the tree still fall?

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:56.439
<v Speaker 9>And I mean everybody can say that, but that still

0:57:56.480 --> 0:57:59.440
<v Speaker 9>won't change. Like I think there is like an objective

0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:02.800
<v Speaker 9>reality side of us, where like even if everybody says

0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:05.120
<v Speaker 9>that it won't, when they drop the styrofoam cup in,

0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 9>it's still going to disappear.

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I still vote that it won I still I still

0:58:13.480 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I still believe that ignorance is a powerful serum that

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:21.320
<v Speaker 2>you can really really really you know all right, you're right, well,

0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:22.840
<v Speaker 2>and you're right you know what you you know what

0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:26.640
<v Speaker 2>you're doing right now? Is your lobbying you're lobby or no,

0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:27.640
<v Speaker 2>you're not living, you're not loving.

0:58:27.680 --> 0:58:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, that's the wrong way. You're campaigning campaigning.

0:58:30.040 --> 0:58:34.360
<v Speaker 2>You're campaigning that styrofoam will dissolve an acid, and you're

0:58:34.360 --> 0:58:35.680
<v Speaker 2>doing it very successful well.

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:37.600
<v Speaker 9>And I think the problem is that's a very easy

0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:41.360
<v Speaker 9>thing to test and to verify, whereas most facts are

0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 9>not easy to take.

0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:46.760
<v Speaker 2>So testing and would you testing and verifying is also

0:58:46.960 --> 0:58:48.800
<v Speaker 2>it's a form of campaigning.

0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:52.960
<v Speaker 1>For the truth. It's true what you believe to be true.

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 9>Well, and it's less like campaigning for what you believe.

0:58:56.280 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 9>But I think it's you know, more useful too, especially

0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:01.200
<v Speaker 9>for like the scientific method. It's it's a campaign and

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:04.840
<v Speaker 9>more just like a form of discovery, is like because

0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:07.840
<v Speaker 9>you can campaign on like some you know, truths that

0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:11.720
<v Speaker 9>are a lot more you know, very difficult or impossible

0:59:11.760 --> 0:59:12.160
<v Speaker 9>to test.

0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:15.000
<v Speaker 2>But what do you what do you do outside of

0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:16.720
<v Speaker 2>what do you what do you.

0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Do with your life? Scott?

0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:18.440
<v Speaker 9>I am in law school?

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:19.200
<v Speaker 2>You're in law school?

0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:19.480
<v Speaker 9>Yes?

0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this is your bread and butter is arguing

0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:22.160
<v Speaker 2>facts and truth?

0:59:22.400 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 9>It sure is?

0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 2>And what's uh? Are you in law school at NYU? I?

0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Sure am grad or undergrad?

0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 9>Oh grid, Oh cool, yeah, what what's what's what's that like?

0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.840
<v Speaker 9>It's fun, it's a it sure is a lot of work. Yeah,

0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:36.840
<v Speaker 9>it's a yeah. I you know, I you go to

0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:38.560
<v Speaker 9>undergrad and you think you work hard, and then you

0:59:38.600 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 9>go to law school and you're like, wow, okay, now

0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:42.080
<v Speaker 9>I know what working hardly?

0:59:42.160 --> 0:59:43.840
<v Speaker 1>What do you do for fun? When that when the

0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:45.520
<v Speaker 1>books are away and you're.

0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:48.400
<v Speaker 9>I come out here. I love this park. It's great,

0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:50.440
<v Speaker 9>but it's an amazing park. I love that there's just

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:52.959
<v Speaker 9>like jazz. I can come out and listen whenever I want.

0:59:53.280 --> 0:59:53.920
<v Speaker 9>It's beautiful.

0:59:54.000 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now law is an interesting thing.

0:59:56.200 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I hate that I'm going back to this, but I

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:01.640
<v Speaker 2>it's just this is where I'm being to law, is

1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:05.360
<v Speaker 2>it now? Law is much more subjective? Oh yeah right?

1:00:05.520 --> 1:00:07.280
<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, Like I like.

1:00:07.280 --> 1:00:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I could argue that murder should be legal. Yeah, and

1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:12.720
<v Speaker 2>that's my vote. Oh yeah, you know, but there's and

1:00:12.760 --> 1:00:16.200
<v Speaker 2>there's no objective it's not there's no objective fact as

1:00:16.200 --> 1:00:18.040
<v Speaker 2>to whether or not murder is wrong.

1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:20.200
<v Speaker 9>Yeah. Well, and you can even argue, like you can

1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:22.800
<v Speaker 9>look at a statute and you can essentially argue that

1:00:22.800 --> 1:00:25.800
<v Speaker 9>that statute says whatever you want it to say, yeah,

1:00:25.840 --> 1:00:27.960
<v Speaker 9>and courts will try to be like, yeah, we're starting

1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:30.800
<v Speaker 9>with the text. But even if like even somebody who's

1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:33.200
<v Speaker 9>saying like, oh yeah, this is based in the text, yeah,

1:00:33.240 --> 1:00:36.640
<v Speaker 9>a lot of the time it's they're arguing what they

1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:37.280
<v Speaker 9>want the text.

1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Does that make you feel uncomfortable? Like, all right, you know,

1:00:40.000 --> 1:00:42.120
<v Speaker 2>here's the thing I was I'm mainly trolling when I'm

1:00:42.160 --> 1:00:46.160
<v Speaker 2>having when I'm saying that reality is, I'm I'm fifty

1:00:46.200 --> 1:00:50.480
<v Speaker 2>percent trolling when I say that reality is. Uh, trolling

1:00:50.520 --> 1:00:52.240
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean I don't believe, but whatever, you know what,

1:00:52.240 --> 1:00:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry say yeah, But doesn't it make you a

1:00:56.480 --> 1:01:01.320
<v Speaker 2>little uncomfortable to know that like laws and these institutions

1:01:01.360 --> 1:01:07.560
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, there's no like glue. Uh, there's no glue

1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:11.360
<v Speaker 2>to them in the same way that there's dependable glue

1:01:11.440 --> 1:01:14.240
<v Speaker 2>to the fact that styrofoam will melt? An ask, does

1:01:14.280 --> 1:01:19.600
<v Speaker 2>that make you uncomfortable? Census it's scary because yeah, it's fragile.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, it's it is people. It's just ideas.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, we've I think we as people are pretty

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<v Speaker 9>good at maintaining these institutions and these ideas. In a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of situations. But I mean we can see now

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<v Speaker 9>like these things are fragile.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you can just what if it wasn't your

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<v Speaker 2>way to becoming the president?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah? Yeah, the yeah, the administrative state is a fun

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<v Speaker 9>thing to be watching at the moment, particularly fragile.

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<v Speaker 2>But what do you do when you're not well? So

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<v Speaker 2>you you just you come to the park.

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<v Speaker 9>Do you have I like to sing?

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<v Speaker 2>You like to sing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you say?

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<v Speaker 9>I'm in like the law school a cappella group, which

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<v Speaker 9>is like an undergrad a cappella group. But you know,

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<v Speaker 9>we don't have the time that the undergrad groups do.

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<v Speaker 9>We do our best.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you read a lot of books?

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<v Speaker 9>I read some books. I'm reading House of Leaves at

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<v Speaker 9>the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do I know what that is? What is that about?

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<v Speaker 9>It's like a haunted house book kind of. It's also

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<v Speaker 9>like a satire on academia. It's insane to try to

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<v Speaker 9>read it. There's footnotes and footnotes and footnotes. There's text

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<v Speaker 9>in all going in all different directions at certain points.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a it's a journey, but it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever gone insane or do you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you've been pretty attached to reality?

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<v Speaker 9>I think I've been pretty attached to reality.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think? What do you think there?

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<v Speaker 9>I I think I've just been lucky. I think in

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of cases, sure, not a lot, like really

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<v Speaker 9>horrible has happened to me, which I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>just just luck.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing horrible has ever happened to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>Nothing, nothing real bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>I I've I'm not well. Do you ever feel like

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<v Speaker 2>if something horrible has ever happened to you? You ever

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<v Speaker 2>just like you ever like that in and of itself,

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<v Speaker 2>You're kind of like, I'm waiting for.

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<v Speaker 9>The shoe to drive hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm waiting for this because well, in New York City,

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<v Speaker 2>you walk around and every day you see people who

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<v Speaker 2>are like, horrible things have clearly happened to this person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why am I? Why not? Why are they happening

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<v Speaker 1>to this person and not me?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah? Oh yeah, I feel that way all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like, what you gotta It's like uh, and

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<v Speaker 2>part of you, like part of your brain goes like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting out of this alive. I'm not getting

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<v Speaker 2>out of this. Nobody gets out of this perfectly. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're a little bit waiting for the shoot to drop.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, yeah, it's it's gonna be something at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what are you thinking that you're gonna get robbed,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get back?

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<v Speaker 9>What do I think it's gonna be. No, I think

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<v Speaker 9>it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you would.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you would make a great like isis hostage?

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<v Speaker 9>I I yeah, I feel like I've had I've had

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<v Speaker 9>nightmares about like getting kidnapped, and it's always very amicable.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's like you convinced that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always like it's.

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<v Speaker 9>Like we're just like we just kind of like having

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<v Speaker 9>a conversation in the back of the truck as we're

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<v Speaker 9>like they're taking me to the location, but we're just talking.

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<v Speaker 9>It's it's yeah, it's it's amicable in the sense of

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<v Speaker 9>like I'm not like happy with where I'm at, but

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<v Speaker 9>it's also like I'm not like screaming, crying, They're not

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<v Speaker 9>beating me up.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's just.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that's probably how it would go down. I

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<v Speaker 9>think I like i'd be I'd be nervous, but at

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<v Speaker 9>a certain point, like once I've accepted that there's nothing

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<v Speaker 9>I can do to get out of the situation, it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 9>I mean I'm I don't know what they're doing with me,

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<v Speaker 9>but I guess I'll just chat with them. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 9>gotta make the best of the situation that I'm in.

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<v Speaker 2>We all have that fan We all have that fantasy

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<v Speaker 2>of like, if I were like being held at gunpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>I could just look at the guy and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>hey man, what's this really about? Oh yeah, we all.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally have that fantasy that like I could. I

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<v Speaker 2>used to have a fantasy where like, uh, I would

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<v Speaker 2>be someone would like help me at gunpoint, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of it, I would just take off

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<v Speaker 2>all my clothes and start spinning around and going ah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they would be like this, this this, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy is crazy. Let's just go yeah. No, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that's how that would go down, though.

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<v Speaker 9>I also have that instinct of like, yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 9>have to out crazy. Whoever is like trying to mug

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<v Speaker 9>me on that cold Could you could you really do that?

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<v Speaker 9>I think I probably could.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, what would you do?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 1>How would you go crazy?

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<v Speaker 9>I think, well, yeah, I'd probably just start moving weird.

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<v Speaker 9>I'd be making bird noises, I'd be getting up in

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<v Speaker 9>their face.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, but like fight, because the fight or flight response,

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like you could do that.

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<v Speaker 9>That's the thing I think because this has kind of

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<v Speaker 9>happened to me. It was one time I was I

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<v Speaker 9>was in a Walmart waiting for like an oil change,

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<v Speaker 9>and I realized that I was being followed around by

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<v Speaker 9>this guy like he'd been following me around the store

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<v Speaker 9>for like fifteen minutes. I just started walking in circles

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<v Speaker 9>and realized that he was following me. Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 9>was thinking in my head the whole time, like what

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<v Speaker 9>am I? What am I gonna do to this guy?

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<v Speaker 9>And I went out to like a one of the

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<v Speaker 9>like wider like open areas with more people, okay, And

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<v Speaker 9>as I was thinking about it, he eventually walked away

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<v Speaker 9>and I was like, okay, is he gone? And then

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<v Speaker 9>he walked away and he was okay. But I was

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<v Speaker 9>getting I was I was coming up with a plant.

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<v Speaker 9>I had the wherewithal. I was horrified, but I had

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<v Speaker 9>the wherewithal to be like.

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<v Speaker 1>What, wow, Okay, this guy was fun. Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>How long maybe you guys just both like Dorito's how

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<v Speaker 2>do you know that he was? This was This was.

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<v Speaker 9>Fifteen minutes of me walking in a circle and him

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<v Speaker 9>being like about as close as we are now behind me.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you talk?

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing. It's like you're telling me if you

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<v Speaker 2>were a kidnapp isis you talked to that? Why don't

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<v Speaker 2>you talk to this guy? Like like you had no

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<v Speaker 2>instinct to turn around and be like, well, man.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't want to be like, hey, what's up?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>I was at least turn around, yeah, make a friend.

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<v Speaker 9>He didn't. He didn't look like a friend to me.

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<v Speaker 9>He was kind of heirs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, talk to him.

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<v Speaker 9>But also, if somebody's gonna like follow me around in

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<v Speaker 9>a Walmart real close, I'm like, Chris Man wants to Like,

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<v Speaker 9>this man's trying to take me. I'm pretty small, but like,

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know. I was like, if I'm gonna if

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<v Speaker 9>I'm gonna do something, it's gotta This needs to be

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<v Speaker 9>a defense mechanism.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a little bit of relief to being taken. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>you think you don't have to make decisions anymore? That's true?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I would.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have.

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<v Speaker 9>I would have in a sense, fewer problems in quantity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you weirdly, you weirdly have fewer problems in they It.

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<v Speaker 9>Might be a bigger problem but it is certainly fewer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I hope you don't get kidnapped by isis.

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<v Speaker 9>I hope I don't get kidnapped by I hope.

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<v Speaker 1>That you die at a very old age. Me too,

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<v Speaker 1>as a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>As a lawyer, and I kind of I I my

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<v Speaker 2>gut ain't worth much, but I I just I really

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<v Speaker 2>think that you will continue to live a life where

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<v Speaker 2>nothing horrible happens to you. I'm out now, but we'll see.

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<v Speaker 9>As I'm walking over, I'll just get like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 9>like ten birds are gonna poop on me at the

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<v Speaker 9>same time, and that'll be the That'll be the love.

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<v Speaker 2>If that's the most horrible thing that ever happens to

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<v Speaker 2>you in your life, that I will take that.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll take that right now if that's if that's the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Got anything else gonna say to the people of the

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<v Speaker 1>computer before we go.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>Enjoy yourself, have a good time, go outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott, Thank you, Scott. Yeah, I'll see you, Uh the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I said that's that? Wasn't that funny?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Bye? Scott? Hi there, what is your name?

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<v Speaker 5>Anna?

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<v Speaker 1>Anna?

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? How's it going.

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<v Speaker 5>It's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I like your hat, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I like your gi look.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Doug.

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<v Speaker 2>What's uh?

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<v Speaker 1>What's been the most persistent thought on your mind lately?

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<v Speaker 5>Ooh oh?

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<v Speaker 11>I just so I am in school right now and

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<v Speaker 11>I just left the closet about sex, gender and justice. Okay,

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<v Speaker 11>So I've been reading a lot about intersectional feminist theory.

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<v Speaker 5>So I've been thinking a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot about that. Okay, exciting stuff. What's the what's all right? Intersexual? Intersexual?

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<v Speaker 2>Say that again?

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<v Speaker 5>Intersectional feminist?

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<v Speaker 2>Intersectional gender feminist? What's the main idea? Give us the gist.

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<v Speaker 11>It's kind of looking at like structures of power that

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<v Speaker 11>have been historically been put in place and how they

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<v Speaker 11>benefit men, like the patriarchy or like supremacy. So the

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<v Speaker 11>intersectional side of it is looking at like raised gender,

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<v Speaker 11>like class, and the feminist side of it is bringing

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<v Speaker 11>more like acknowledgment to like the position of subjugation that

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<v Speaker 11>like women, and the idea like how we even understand

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<v Speaker 11>and define what woman is has been developed in society.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, Sure, and that's that is the thing. Like there's

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<v Speaker 2>it's an open idea of like what is a woman?

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<v Speaker 2>Which it kind of goes I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>listen to me rant, but sometimes it is I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just ranting about reality. No, no, I was

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<v Speaker 2>just ranting about reality being a democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got that idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree it goes because like what what's the roll

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<v Speaker 2>of paper towels? You know, exactly whatever whatever we assigned

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<v Speaker 2>to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so yeah, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people are like, uh, facts are facts and fucking

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<v Speaker 2>styrofoam dissolves in acid, and uh, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Ship what do you? What do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you? What do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this what you study?

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<v Speaker 10>So?

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<v Speaker 11>I did be here real neuroscience and anthropology before, and

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<v Speaker 11>I'm doing forensic psychology.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, okay, what's going on in forensic psychology.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm very interested in kind of like how intersects with

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<v Speaker 11>culture and how we define like what is considered abnormal behavior,

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<v Speaker 11>what is considered criminal behavior, and how just subjective of.

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<v Speaker 2>This we were. I was just talking about whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not murders should be legal.

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<v Speaker 1>That's this question.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it should be legal?

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<v Speaker 5>In what sense?

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<v Speaker 11>I feel like everything is very contact dependent and I

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<v Speaker 11>feel like some people define abortion.

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<v Speaker 2>I would disagree with that, all right, you see that

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<v Speaker 2>you see that guy over there. If I shouldn't a point,

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<v Speaker 2>I should not have pointed at a specific person. If

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<v Speaker 2>I but like, if I pointed at a guy and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't like that guy, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go kill him.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you shouldn't be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't think so, because you can just walk away.

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<v Speaker 11>You cannot interact with that guy without having to kill him.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, that's why I feel like you shouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, because it's he's I mean, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>seems like a nice guy. I don't want to kill him.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks really nice, smile, and I don't feel bad

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<v Speaker 2>that I pointed at him and said, but it's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to kill him. But what I But

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<v Speaker 2>if I did, I should go to jail. Right If

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<v Speaker 2>I kill a guy, I think you.

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<v Speaker 11>Probably should go through some transformative justice process more than jail,

1:11:39.600 --> 1:11:41.080
<v Speaker 11>because I feel like just going to jail he's not

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<v Speaker 11>really gonna change the impulse you had to kill him

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<v Speaker 11>in the first place. So once you come out of jail,

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<v Speaker 11>you might as well just do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, sure, what So Okay, let's say there's a

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<v Speaker 2>guy and he's like, see that guy over there, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna kill him with a knife. Okay, I'm gonna stab

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<v Speaker 2>him over and over again, this guy only because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not just for no reason, just for fun, just to

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<v Speaker 2>see what it feels like, for just to see what

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like, it for the sake of it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So then from what you from your belief, how do

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<v Speaker 2>we get what should happen to that guy? Should we

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<v Speaker 2>is it should we punish him because he killed a guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Or should we get him to a point where he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to kill guys anymore?

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<v Speaker 11>I think we should talk to him and figure out

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<v Speaker 11>what made him want to kill someone and kind of

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<v Speaker 11>like understand why do we find life so valuable? Why

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<v Speaker 11>do we find that so ominous and so like tele

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<v Speaker 11>and then like go from there, like see what his

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<v Speaker 11>impulses are, and like it's probably something underlying more about

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<v Speaker 11>himself more than so much about the guy he ended

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<v Speaker 11>up killing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we gotta figure that out?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, what what do you think it is that

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<v Speaker 2>makes people want to kill people for no reason?

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<v Speaker 11>I think for some people he's like feeling control. I

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<v Speaker 11>feel like a lot of people feel over it, just

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<v Speaker 11>like subjects of society and like kind of like things

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<v Speaker 11>are imposed onto us. It's like a claim of like

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<v Speaker 11>oh I'm just radically gonna do something and like it's

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<v Speaker 11>gonna have consequences, but I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why people like light fires and shoot?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, just feeling control?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, yeah, interesting interesting, Yeah, because it is

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<v Speaker 2>like right, okay, right, because let's say you want to

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<v Speaker 2>change the world, like to do it to to change

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<v Speaker 2>the world pro socially is like way more effort, I agree,

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<v Speaker 2>than to change the world anti socially, because it's like

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<v Speaker 2>like the actual process of like killing someone or lighting

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<v Speaker 2>a building on fire is easier than like writing a.

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<v Speaker 5>Sitting down and processing how you feel about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, sitting Like it's way easier than like writing

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<v Speaker 2>a sonnet.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's easier.

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<v Speaker 2>It's easier than writing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a good sonnet.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if what I said is actually true.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I think it makes sense. Like what's

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<v Speaker 2>what's harder? Like like painted, Like I'm talking like in

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<v Speaker 2>a all right, Like if you were putting a white

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<v Speaker 2>room with nothing in it. Yeah, and you there's a

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<v Speaker 2>paint brush on an easel and a knife and a

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<v Speaker 2>guy with a stupid face, and it was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of the room, you have to either

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<v Speaker 2>kill the guy with the stupid face or paint a

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful painting. I guess it's like, again, process wise, easier

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<v Speaker 2>to kill the guy with the stupid face.

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<v Speaker 11>I it's more easy to agree that, like when he's dead,

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<v Speaker 11>it's easy to agree that he's dead.

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<v Speaker 1>How great that.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy is dead is easier than the consensus that

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<v Speaker 2>the painting is beautiful? Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what would you do in that case?

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<v Speaker 2>What I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, i'd.

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<v Speaker 2>I would kill the guy and then make a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>painting with his blood. Said that, but yeah, there we go, somebody, yes,

1:14:46.520 --> 1:14:49.240
<v Speaker 2>clap for that. Yes, that's a great thing to say

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<v Speaker 2>that people should flat for.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you do?

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<v Speaker 2>What you do?

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<v Speaker 5>How about stop myself?

1:14:57.200 --> 1:14:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could do that. That's that's that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's you know what that is The easiest, easiest

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<v Speaker 2>is to just kill yourself, but not how to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then you don't have to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's the easiest solution process wise to anything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's way easier than get what's the there's

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<v Speaker 2>a giving up swhite harder than the giving ups easier

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<v Speaker 2>than trying. Yeah, I was about a quota. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a Kanye bar giving up white harder than trying.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not. It's that's wrong. Yeah, that's wrong. That's

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<v Speaker 2>one of many wrong Yeah things.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean there's some things that like, are you that

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<v Speaker 11>suicide is kind of like holding onto hope that like

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<v Speaker 11>some people kill themselves hoping that he's gonna be better,

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<v Speaker 11>and it's just it's nothing, it's not better.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like suicide's not holding onto hope.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, I also think it's not holding onto hope.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying alive is holding onto hop Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>But I know, like Albert Kamu like talks about like

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<v Speaker 11>suicide in like very like the same terms as like hope.

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<v Speaker 11>It's like people like hope that there's the only way

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<v Speaker 11>they see change possible is by ending their lives and

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<v Speaker 11>hoping that like we don't know what happens after life,

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<v Speaker 11>so like it's kind of like taking a gamble.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but also you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing is you're gonna find out at

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<v Speaker 2>one point or another.

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<v Speaker 5>Will we Yeah, you find out, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you die and then you find out, but.

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<v Speaker 11>You're not conscious. So are you finding out what happens

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<v Speaker 11>if you're not conscious?

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<v Speaker 1>That's true?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, people around you find out. We know what

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<v Speaker 11>that is because people around us, well.

1:16:26.800 --> 1:16:28.720
<v Speaker 2>People around you find out what happens when you die,

1:16:28.800 --> 1:16:32.519
<v Speaker 2>which is that there's a funeral and maybe it's catered

1:16:32.560 --> 1:16:35.200
<v Speaker 2>and there's something this charcuterie board.

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<v Speaker 5>And very expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What what do you want for your funeral?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want the.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be like put in a jar?

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<v Speaker 11>I want to be given to nature. I want like

1:16:44.840 --> 1:16:47.360
<v Speaker 11>trees to eat me and like become food for the environment.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool. Yeah, that's cool. Why what's your name again?

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<v Speaker 5>Anna?

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<v Speaker 1>Anna? Why should people live?

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<v Speaker 2>Anna?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that's a heavy question.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, that's a lot to put on you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I don't you don't need to have an answer,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm just curious what you think because you've studied.

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<v Speaker 11>I think we don't really choose to become alive, and

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<v Speaker 11>an unconsensual choice that he's put onto us might as

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<v Speaker 11>well just try it out and see what he feels like. Yeah, sure,

1:17:15.160 --> 1:17:16.800
<v Speaker 11>and play with it because we don't really have an

1:17:16.840 --> 1:17:17.599
<v Speaker 11>option around it.

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<v Speaker 5>And then if you tune out of it. That's I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not I'm not super anti suicide. I don't know, controversial.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, yeah, yeah, well I don't. I look all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bounce it out. I think, give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing I can think of because like, oh,

1:17:34.240 --> 1:17:36.760
<v Speaker 2>there's a ball, a ball almost rolled it. That's my

1:17:36.880 --> 1:17:40.120
<v Speaker 2>worst fear. That's my worst fear of all time. That

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<v Speaker 2>would be my thirteenth. Reason why it's my worst fear

1:17:42.720 --> 1:17:44.559
<v Speaker 2>of all time is that like I'm near like a

1:17:44.600 --> 1:17:46.599
<v Speaker 2>playground or whatever, and there's.

1:17:46.439 --> 1:17:47.880
<v Speaker 1>A bunch of like cool.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to throw it back, and the ball comes

1:17:51.680 --> 1:17:53.479
<v Speaker 2>near me and I have to like kick it back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so afraid that I'm gonna kick it the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>way and then I have to go into the woods

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<v Speaker 2>and get it.

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<v Speaker 11>I've seen someone do that. They like kick get into

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<v Speaker 11>a tree, and they ruined the day for the rest

1:18:02.920 --> 1:18:04.040
<v Speaker 11>of the people playing that night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's the situation in which I'm not. I'm

1:18:07.320 --> 1:18:13.000
<v Speaker 2>also totally not anti suicide. It's yeah, context dependent. But

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<v Speaker 2>now here's my Okay, here's my argument is there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many different things you could try before you do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, knitting.

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<v Speaker 11>Exactly, you know, or like disappearing and started on your

1:18:22.120 --> 1:18:23.880
<v Speaker 11>life somewhere else. Might as well try that.

1:18:23.960 --> 1:18:26.400
<v Speaker 2>You might as well try there's so many different things

1:18:26.880 --> 1:18:30.360
<v Speaker 2>you your brain only has access to the reality that

1:18:30.360 --> 1:18:33.280
<v Speaker 2>it's that it's experienced thus far.

1:18:33.479 --> 1:18:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you might as well try some new ship.

1:18:35.880 --> 1:18:38.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there's infinite That's the thing is you could, like,

1:18:38.880 --> 1:18:43.479
<v Speaker 2>there's inxact things to try until you turn eighty or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>The huges.

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<v Speaker 2>So just keep infinitely trying. And you might because I'll

1:18:48.160 --> 1:18:49.679
<v Speaker 2>take a maybe over.

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<v Speaker 5>A no exactly. Yeah, you never know.

1:18:51.640 --> 1:18:54.320
<v Speaker 11>There's so many choosing might as well just see what

1:18:54.080 --> 1:18:54.920
<v Speaker 11>what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>You just keep choosing maybe.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that, Just keep choosing maybe, would you eat today? Anything?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I have this problem.

1:19:02.479 --> 1:19:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I think I I think it started since I've been

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<v Speaker 2>doing this podcast of like I just have to turn

1:19:07.840 --> 1:19:13.599
<v Speaker 2>every fucking conversation to some esoteric whatever the fuck thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I was around, uh, these group of guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I've told this story on this podcast probably before. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was around these group of guys and they were

1:19:24.800 --> 1:19:28.439
<v Speaker 2>eating a sandwich and one of them starts crushing chips

1:19:28.479 --> 1:19:31.040
<v Speaker 2>into the sandwich and then they start talking about how

1:19:31.080 --> 1:19:33.000
<v Speaker 2>awesome it is to crush chips on a sandwich.

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<v Speaker 5>What's your take on that?

1:19:35.160 --> 1:19:37.040
<v Speaker 2>It's all I love it? And I was like why,

1:19:37.120 --> 1:19:38.880
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, why can't I? I want to

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<v Speaker 2>have more conversations like this.

1:19:40.439 --> 1:19:40.880
<v Speaker 5>I agree.

1:19:41.000 --> 1:19:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's always you know those people on dating apps where

1:19:43.800 --> 1:19:46.760
<v Speaker 2>they're like, I only have deep conversations. Yeah, that sounds like.

1:19:46.840 --> 1:19:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Hell, yeah that sucks.

1:19:48.800 --> 1:19:49.679
<v Speaker 5>It sounds crazy.

1:19:49.800 --> 1:19:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sometimes you want to just talk about a simple pleasure.

1:19:53.000 --> 1:19:54.599
<v Speaker 5>That's what we can all agree on easily.

1:19:54.840 --> 1:19:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you want to talk about something we've been we've

1:19:57.720 --> 1:19:58.719
<v Speaker 2>been getting too into the weeds.

1:19:58.760 --> 1:20:00.799
<v Speaker 1>You want to talk talk about something normal?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what you watch?

1:20:03.520 --> 1:20:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Anything good on TV? Lately?

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<v Speaker 11>I started watching the new season of White Lotos recently.

1:20:07.840 --> 1:20:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, I don't know that one.

1:20:09.240 --> 1:20:11.840
<v Speaker 5>Okay, it's okay. Have you seen that? You you've never

1:20:11.880 --> 1:20:12.479
<v Speaker 5>heard of the show?

1:20:13.120 --> 1:20:13.840
<v Speaker 2>No, I haven't seen it.

1:20:13.880 --> 1:20:15.920
<v Speaker 11>Okay, I recommend The first two seasons were really good.

1:20:15.960 --> 1:20:17.599
<v Speaker 11>The third one I'm still waiting for it to kind

1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:20.840
<v Speaker 11>of like okay, yeah, get better, all right, I'll check

1:20:20.840 --> 1:20:21.960
<v Speaker 11>it out. Yeah, I like it.

1:20:22.040 --> 1:20:23.400
<v Speaker 5>What about you? What do you like to watch?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really watch a lot of TV.

1:20:25.080 --> 1:20:27.240
<v Speaker 5>Okay do you read?

1:20:27.680 --> 1:20:28.760
<v Speaker 2>No, not really, what do you do?

1:20:28.960 --> 1:20:30.120
<v Speaker 1>We'll look at YouTube videos?

1:20:30.200 --> 1:20:31.799
<v Speaker 5>Nice? What type of YouTube videos?

1:20:32.160 --> 1:20:38.439
<v Speaker 2>Stuff like how did how did uh like make thirty

1:20:38.479 --> 1:20:40.799
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars from home with Amazon drop shipping?

1:20:40.920 --> 1:20:42.360
<v Speaker 5>Nice? Has it worked for you?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I just watched the I watched the first two minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and then I go look at like gameplay

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<v Speaker 2>from a GameCube for game gameplay from the rug Rats

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<v Speaker 2>GameCube game that I played around as a kid.

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<v Speaker 5>Nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>I was looking at tickets for my spring breaks coming up,

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<v Speaker 11>and I want to figure out what I can do.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm from Columbia. I want to go back to Columbia,

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<v Speaker 11>but tickets are so expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in Columbia from I was born in Bogota.

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<v Speaker 5>I grew up in Melojing.

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<v Speaker 2>My cousin's going to Bogata. Oh nice, Yeah, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the first time? Okay, any tips for my cousin.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't walk around with your phone out.

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<v Speaker 11>Bogota is more like it's like the New York like

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<v Speaker 11>the Columbia version of New York is very chaotic, is

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<v Speaker 11>very busy, is not like super like tourists friendly as

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<v Speaker 11>much as other cities. I would say, don't judge Columbia

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<v Speaker 11>based off Bogota. I love Bota, but it's not it's

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<v Speaker 11>not like flowers and tropics. That's more like Melojin or

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<v Speaker 11>the coast. But there's a lot of museums and cultural stuff.

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<v Speaker 11>A lot of street art is really cool. The foot

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<v Speaker 11>is the foot is bombed. Yeah, incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's that? What's Columbian food?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 11>What it changes by city by region because we have

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<v Speaker 11>a lot of like mountains, so altitude. We have a

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<v Speaker 11>lot of like different veggies that grow in Bogota. The

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<v Speaker 11>main dish is called tahiaco, is like a potato based

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<v Speaker 11>soup with chicken, and it's so good that sounds it's

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<v Speaker 11>so yummy. I'm vegan now, but I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Still a vegan because like it's like like for ethics

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<v Speaker 2>reasons or your stomach hurts for ethics.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been vegan for ten years now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh pretty good, Yeah, pretty good. I'm also, uh, this

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<v Speaker 2>is another rant I've got.

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<v Speaker 3>I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a simp.

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<v Speaker 3>I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Fucking like, I have like three rants that I go

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<v Speaker 2>on and this is one of them. Is like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I logically understand that it's unethical to kill animals and

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<v Speaker 2>eat them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I do it anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 11>I feel like I am more comfortable with people that

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<v Speaker 11>understand that and make that choice and then like you're

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<v Speaker 11>making a moral choice of your own decision autonomy, rather

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<v Speaker 11>than like pretending like it's not like you're eating there's.

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<v Speaker 2>No real Yeah, well we could be fine. We Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of chickens for no reasons.

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<v Speaker 11>And I have more problem not so much with consuming meat,

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<v Speaker 11>but with the like how it's massively produced.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, like I don't have a problem.

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<v Speaker 11>He's like a local, like indigenous person or like you

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<v Speaker 11>have your own farm and you like that's I don't

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<v Speaker 11>really mind that.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I'm like when tight like Tyson dinosaur chicken nuggets,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not like that's a little too much. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>little too much. I will admit it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>We've gone it's fucked up to kill an animal and

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<v Speaker 2>then make it into.

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<v Speaker 5>The you're laughing at it? What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're trolling chicken. We're we're big trolling chickens. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what, maybe you just maybe you shouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 2>a chicken. Maybe you should have been something cool or

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<v Speaker 2>like a like a guy with a skateboard. Yeah. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>and thanks for talking to about Is there anything else

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<v Speaker 2>you want to say to the people of the computer.

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<v Speaker 11>Uh, not much. I yeah, I'm about to eat some food.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm so hungry, but it was nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hungry too. You made me hungry for for dinosaur chicken. Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll yeah you too.

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<v Speaker 2>By literally, wow, folks, this has been being a gecko

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<v Speaker 2>on the street.

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<v Speaker 1>This was good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna keep doing more of these. I I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>done one of these in like nine or two, ten

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<v Speaker 2>months or something. I forgot how much fun it is

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to people in real life instead of in

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<v Speaker 2>a room. I'm still gonna talk to people alone in

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<v Speaker 2>a dark room.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll still be doing that, but I might just start

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do this once a week or every other

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<v Speaker 2>week or something like that. So stay tuned. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you enjoyed it. Hit subscribe on YouTube or hit whatever

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<v Speaker 2>on a podcast thing. Thanks for if and if you're

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<v Speaker 2>listening to that, let me just from experience, I just

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<v Speaker 2>here's if you're listening to this and you're in your

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<v Speaker 2>underwear in your house alone, and you're like and you're

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<v Speaker 2>going crazy. Just put on pants and go outside and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll you'll be like, all right, that was half the battle. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for being here with me on this journey. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a gecko. I'm insane, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Get off.

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<v Speaker 2>Get off the computer. Okay, bye everyone, goodbye, see you later.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye.

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<v Speaker 7>Therapy. Get goes on the line, taking your phone calls

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<v Speaker 7>every night.

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<v Speaker 6>The repent goes through Its eye's

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<v Speaker 7>Teaching you to houses of your life, but he's not

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<v Speaker 7>really an expert.