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Speaker 1: Hello, folks, it is Lyle.

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Speaker 2: This is just a quick intro to this episode, letting

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Speaker 2: you know that it was recorded in real life. That's right,

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Speaker 2: in real life in Washington Square Park in New York City.

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Speaker 2: I did some interviews with some folks. We got to

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Speaker 2: talk to a lot of people. It was really great.

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy it, and please let me know

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Speaker 2: in the comments if you like these kinds of episodes,

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Speaker 2: because personally, for me, they're my favorite kind to do.

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Speaker 2: I love getting to chat with people. I felt like

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Speaker 2: the energy was really there. It was really fun. And

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Speaker 2: that's it. This is me recording out a intro. There's

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Speaker 2: gonna be another intro of me talking while I'm actually

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Speaker 2: Let's get in to the episode. This is being a

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Speaker 2: Gecko in the Park. Okay, Hello, listeners of the Therapy

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Speaker 2: Gecko podcast and watchers of videos on the internet. We

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Speaker 2: are here today in Washington Square Park because, uh well,

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Speaker 2: folks who listen to the podcast know that all I've

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Speaker 2: been talking about is existential dread and going insane. And

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Speaker 2: I actually figured out guys, get this. I figured out

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Speaker 2: the solution to going insane and you and you folks

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Speaker 2: aren't gonna believe it. But all you have to do

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Speaker 2: is go outside. It's all you have to do. Go outside,

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Speaker 2: touch some grass. So I'm here.

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Speaker 1: I feel great, I feel amazing.

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Speaker 2: Washington Square Park is one of my favorite places that

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Speaker 2: I have that I have been in my adventures around

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Speaker 2: the planet. There's all kinds of people here, all living

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Speaker 2: their own individual lives, and it's a sunny day out

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna I'm gonna chat with some people, so

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Speaker 2: let's do that. This is being a gecko in the park.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us your.

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Speaker 1: Name, ma'am?

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Speaker 2: Yes hi, I'm Tabitha, Tabitha. Nice to meet you, Tabitha.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 2: How you doing. How's life good?

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Speaker 3: Good? Beautiful? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What brings you to the park today?

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Speaker 4: I am here with a group that does arts ministry.

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Speaker 1: What is arts ministry?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So it's artists who love Jesus and are committed to

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Speaker 4: loving the people in art in the city for him,

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Speaker 2: So you know what's funny is okay? On the last

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Speaker 2: episode of the podcast, we had another guy who wanted

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Speaker 2: to talk about Jesus, but he was he was a

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Speaker 2: dick about it. You seem way nicer.

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Speaker 6: Than he does.

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Speaker 2: When did you? And I'm actually, I'm I'm open minded

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Speaker 2: to these things because it's very hard to find direction

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Speaker 1: So when did you find Jesus?

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a great question.

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Speaker 4: I actually found Jesus because my parents dragged me to

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Speaker 2: Uh, mixed bag.

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Speaker 4: I don't necessarily advocate for dragging your children places.

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Speaker 2: Really against their will. Really, okay, I mean that's a

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Speaker 2: do you remember early days when you were in church

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Speaker 4: I fell asleep a lot. My mom is she's got

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Speaker 2: Our church. I think was also aware that there.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, did anything stuck in your head, like were

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Speaker 2: there any sermons that got into your head that you

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Speaker 4: Jesus is cool and like he doesn't necessarily want me

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he does like want to talk to me

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Speaker 2: about stuff. What do you talk to Jesus about everything? Oh?

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Speaker 2: My god, is there any topics off? Have you ever

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Speaker 4: In fact, it's scary to me how much I can

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like and he withholds judgment?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: It's not even that he withholds judgment so much as

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Speaker 4: I feel so clearly his love.

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Speaker 4: I think our best friends, like in the world aren't

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Speaker 2: Hope. So so if like, so, I know Jesus is non judgmental,

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Speaker 3: What would he say?

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Speaker 1: Would he be like, what's a good friend say to that?

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Speaker 4: I think if I could, in this moment be Jesus.

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Speaker 4: I would say, maybe what's wrong?

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Speaker 3: Do you need help?

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Speaker 4: Do we need to have a conversation. We can go

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Speaker 4: though her action, never mind, let's not talk about Whitney.

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Speaker 1: My bad Whitney. Yeah, she was into crack.

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Speaker 2: I have an awesome ten minutes. Yeah, it looks like

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Speaker 4: So I went to a Christian college who won't name it.

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Speaker 2: But oh rhyme, maybe the horse will be for me

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Speaker 2: like a Bob Dylan song. Cannot confirm what So we

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Speaker 2: talked a little bit before you came on on camera.

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Speaker 2: You're not from New York, right, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you where are you from?

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Speaker 1: And what are you doing in town?

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Speaker 4: So I am from San Antonio, Texas. Cool so very

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Speaker 4: much deep south central oh Texas, Praise God. But I

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Speaker 2: I would say, salt and light.

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Speaker 4: That's very Jesus Bible centered, Bible dog whistle if you will,

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Speaker 4: But be Sultan light in their artists community wherever they're from.

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Speaker 2: And how does like, logistically speaking, how does one be

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So I would say it looks like being a

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Speaker 4: safe person to bring hard questions.

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Speaker 1: To a safe person to bring hard questions too. Yeah, love,

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Speaker 4: That's great and a safe place to grieve, yeah, and

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Speaker 4: I was talking to your bosom buddy over there, buddy,

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, we're angry doggo but and we just

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Speaker 4: it can be really detrimental, really poisonous almost. I'm a

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Speaker 6: The gift that been given.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think my experience with arts ministry in

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question, what do you what's

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Speaker 1: And I look, I've I've fell victim to that.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people that's their modest OPERENDI

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Speaker 2: is like, if I keep hating myself and I keep

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Speaker 2: believing I'm not enough, I will that's gonna motivate me,

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Speaker 2: propel me for and like, look, undenial, you cannot deny

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Speaker 2: it as part.

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Speaker 1: Of the hero's journey.

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Speaker 2: That has is part of the hero's journey. It has

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Speaker 2: resulted in a lot of great art. But you seem

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Speaker 2: how how how does what do you think about the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, You're loved and you're beautiful just

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Speaker 4: deprecating thoughts to experience the deep and abiding insecurity that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Do you want to plug anything? You can plug as

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Tabitha.

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Speaker 1: What brings you to the park today?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, Bro, I've just been here on a

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Speaker 2: All that Oh people right, oh, who who who are

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Speaker 6: And my teachers, Oh your teacher?

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Speaker 2: Okay? And like so so you're so you're in tenth grade? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 6: Like hopefully go to college and all that, you know, cool,

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Speaker 1: Do you want to make a lot of money?

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Speaker 2: I buy a BMW?

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Speaker 1: That's cool.

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Speaker 2: I see what this piece of paper is? I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: It says Washington Square wanted for good behavior?

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Speaker 2: So that's you?

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Speaker 2: How did you? How did you? How did you get

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Speaker 6: You know, positive energy, it needs to be spreaded a lot.

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Like what does someone have to do to really get

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Speaker 6: Annoy me? Bug me? It's up in my shoes.

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Speaker 6: Oh? This is a school field trip, like you know

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Speaker 1: Do I have to give you a permission slip to

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Speaker 6: Do they have to?

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Speaker 3: Well? I don't.

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Speaker 1: But where'd you go?

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Speaker 2: You go to the Science Center.

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Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, I'm vibing with high school?

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Speaker 1: Life's great?

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Speaker 2: Or are you are you like I can't wait to

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Speaker 6: Really really, it's which is like it depends on what

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Speaker 1: Get money into you into crypto.

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Speaker 6: Nah, I am like, I don't know how I do

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Speaker 2: You know what I think based on what you just said,

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Speaker 6: So like, but do you like live here in New York?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm here, sometimes I'm in various deserts, forests and

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Speaker 6: So you travel, Yeah, I've traveled.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 6: It's like so it's like it's like this everywhere you go.

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Speaker 6: Or like you just set up the on your like

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Speaker 1: Chairs, chat with people, hang out.

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Speaker 2: It's just nice to I swear in my life, I'm

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Speaker 6: Like why you got like strict rules in your house

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Speaker 1: Rules in the house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's just if I'm in the house for

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Speaker 2: I start to spiral, think about crazy shit. Dude, Yesterday

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, every thinking about crazy stuff. I kind of

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Speaker 6: like do something with your selfie for me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, or else just start questioning reality. But listen,

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Speaker 2: I want you to right now about seventy I'm at

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Speaker 2: right now, And that's pretty good. And I appreciate you

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Speaker 2: sitting down and chat with me. What's your name one

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Speaker 2: more time? Eli, Eluys or anything else you want to

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be on TikTok and all that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, I might, I might not do it.

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Speaker 2: I might just I might never post this. No, I'm

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Speaker 2: Why you want to just try and shut yourself out

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Speaker 6: I just want to be on TikTok so like people

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Speaker 2: You on YouTube?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, YouTube, YouTube school too?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Like that cool?

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, take care of your life.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye.

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Speaker 1: How's it going?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 1: What's up? What's your name?

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Speaker 7: Trinity?

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Speaker 1: Trinity? It's a wonderful name. Trinity Rain. What's up, Trinity Rain?

455
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Speaker 2: What Trinity Rain? I got a question for you. Okay,

456
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Speaker 2: what's one of the most persistent thought on your mind lately?

457
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Speaker 2: What have you been thinking about?

458
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Speaker 7: If there's life on other planets?

459
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and if they're aware of us, or if it

460
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 8: mimics what we do in our daily lives, if they're

461
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Speaker 8: just aliens and I don't know, they don't care.

462
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Speaker 2: Have you come to any hypotheses conclusions on this.

463
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Speaker 8: I do believe that there's life on other planets, but

464
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Speaker 8: I don't know if they're aware of us and they

465
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Speaker 8: just think we're so minimalistic they don't care to interact,

466
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Speaker 8: or if they also aren't aware and don't have the

467
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Speaker 8: means of reaching out to us.

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Speaker 2: I was reading an article once and it said something

469
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Speaker 2: that kind of blew my mind.

470
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Speaker 1: It was like, even if there is like life.

471
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Speaker 2: Like consciousness is like a spectrum, and so we aren't

472
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Speaker 2: like the final most conscious beings on earth, but and

473
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Speaker 2: we but we're on a spectrum, which means that like

474
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Speaker 2: we're more conscious than a chicken. Right, But there almost

475
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Speaker 2: inevitably exists something that's more conscious than us, but we

476
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Speaker 2: can't understand them anymore than like a chicken can understand

477
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Speaker 2: the context of our world. Isn't that crazy?

478
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Speaker 7: Very crazy?

479
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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: What do you believe? Are you an atheist?

481
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I like, I don't know, I

482
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Speaker 2: don't know. I think I was like, yeah, we're just

483
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Speaker 2: all going on the ground and whatever.

484
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Speaker 1: There's too much that I've accepted.

485
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Speaker 2: There's too much that I don't know to make a

486
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Speaker 2: claim of any kind. So I'm just gonna, you know,

487
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Speaker 2: be a gecko and m h run around. I'm just

488
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Speaker 2: gonna try to do my best on this whatever I'm

489
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Speaker 2: experiencing right now. But I was thinking, I was like, oh,

490
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Speaker 2: you know, we just go in the ground and that's it. Yeah,

491
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Speaker 2: but consciousness is a trip, it is, and there's got there.

492
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if there was something more to it.

493
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Speaker 2: But there's also I was dead for most of a life,

494
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Speaker 2: and I'll be dead for most of eternity. But maybe

495
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Speaker 2: you know, the whole like and I'm going on such

496
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Speaker 2: a rant right now, but the whole like energy can't

497
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Speaker 2: be created or destroyed. So like maybe I don't know,

498
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Speaker 2: maybe I'll maybe I'll be a Maybe I'll be like

499
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Speaker 2: one of the trees at the Rainforest Cafe that talks,

500
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Speaker 2: you know, the one I'm talking about with the eyes.

501
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Speaker 7: I think I'm thinking too small.

502
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Speaker 8: I think there's maybe a whole other planet filled with

503
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Speaker 8: geckos who are waiting for you to come back home.

504
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Speaker 8: And that's where you departed from, oh Man, because I

505
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Speaker 8: questioned what made you want to be a gecko in

506
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Speaker 8: the first place?

507
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Speaker 2: Uh, well today, maybe want to be a gecko was

508
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Speaker 2: to have fun, get out of the house and chat

509
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Speaker 2: with folks and feel great. You know?

510
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Speaker 7: Is that what you want your legacy to be? Essentially?

511
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Speaker 2: You just I'm not obsessed with legacy because legacy is

512
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Speaker 2: like no one cares really about anyone or anything.

513
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Speaker 1: Even people who have legacy like Abraham.

514
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Speaker 2: How many times a year do you think about Abraham Lincoln?

515
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Speaker 8: I had a seventh grade teacher who made me memorize

516
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Speaker 8: like four scorn of years ago, the Gettysburg Address, the

517
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Speaker 8: getty Burg Address, and I had to perform in front

518
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Speaker 8: of the class, So you and that.

519
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Speaker 2: But since that's subjective. Since then, how many times a

520
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Speaker 2: day do you think about Abraham Lincoln?

521
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Speaker 7: Zero?

522
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Speaker 1: Zero? Nobody gives no, one really gives a shit about him.

523
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Speaker 7: That's very true.

524
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Speaker 2: Everyone knows who he is vaguely, but nobody really. So

525
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Speaker 2: his legacy didn't I'm not gonna say Abraham Lincoln didn't matter.

526
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Speaker 2: He did some stuff, but like, you can't be thinking

527
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Speaker 2: too much about how people are gonna think about you

528
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: when you're gone, because ultimately, nobody's really thinking about you

529
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Speaker 2: at all. Ever, even if you're Abraham Lincoln.

530
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Speaker 7: Yeah, what are you gonna do? You're gone?

531
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Speaker 2: Gone?

532
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that makes sense.

533
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Speaker 1: What do you do here in New York?

534
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Speaker 7: I'm studying film and television?

535
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I studied film and television?

536
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Speaker 7: Really film major?

537
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yeah. Are you not to put a damper

538
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: on anything? But are you afraid of graduation?

539
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Speaker 8: I guess so in a sense, yes, But I'd rather

540
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Speaker 8: do what I love, you know, than succumb to a

541
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Speaker 8: job that I hate clocking into every day, because I

542
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 8: feel like I would just end my shit.

543
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 7: So I'd rather be happy, Yeah.

544
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Speaker 2: Struggling, what what do you want to do? What's your

545
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: dream film thing?

546
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Speaker 8: Writing, directing, character driven dramas, things like that. But I

547
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 8: really like studying people, characters, things like that. I feel

548
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 8: like life imitates art. You know, you and yourself are

549
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Speaker 8: a character. You know, And I have a question for you.

550
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Speaker 8: Because break out from getting the green face paint all

551
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Speaker 8: the time?

552
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Speaker 2: No, I break out from eating shitty. I break out

553
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: from having McDonald's every day. I don't break that makeup

554
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: is There's a lot of variables as to why I

555
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: might have acne, and I'm going to say that the

556
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Speaker 2: makeup is not part of it.

557
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Speaker 1: Not part of it.

558
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Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, good to know, appreciate that.

559
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: What's uh, what's it like being at NYU?

560
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Speaker 3: Is there?

561
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Speaker 1: Like, how's the community, how's the film scene?

562
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Speaker 7: It's pretty cool.

563
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Speaker 8: I'm very grateful to even be there, especially because, like

564
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 8: I have a scholarship. But that does make me feel

565
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Speaker 8: like certain people I can't mesh with because they're in

566
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Speaker 8: a completely different tax.

567
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Speaker 7: Bracket than me. So oh okay, I just like sitting

568
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Speaker 7: back and observing sometimes.

569
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Speaker 2: You know, do they make you watch because all right,

570
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Speaker 2: I went to a film school, and I had a

571
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Speaker 2: professor at film school who was I think he was

572
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: about ninety eight years old and still around. He was like, okay,

573
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Speaker 2: everyone watch, Uh, we're gonna watch Birth of a Nation

574
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Speaker 2: by something Griffith. I think, okay, And we're all sitting

575
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Speaker 2: there like, what the fuck are we paying tens of

576
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Speaker 2: thousands of dollars? Like what are we doing here?

577
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 7: Yeah?

578
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: And is it still like that? Is it still like

579
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: everyone's like, what are we doing here?

580
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

581
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Speaker 8: Certain times I remember vividly last semester we watched like

582
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Speaker 8: a three hour film in a foreign language with no subtitles,

583
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Speaker 8: and we were supposed to focus on the camera work,

584
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Speaker 8: but I just had this moment of like.

585
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Speaker 7: What am I watching? Why am I here?

586
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 10: You know?

587
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 7: Would I be better somewhere else?

588
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: You know? Are you?

589
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: Are you from New York?

590
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 7: Would you guess that?

591
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: But vibe?

592
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 7: Do I give region?

593
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess. I wouldn't be surprised if you. Oh wait,

594
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Speaker 2: you're wearing an NFL hat of some kind? Is that

595
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: the Broncos?

596
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Speaker 7: Okay?

597
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: I don't know? From Denver? Denver rocks Man. It was

598
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: a good time.

599
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Speaker 7: Yeah you've ever been?

600
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been I go to I've pretty much been

601
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: to Denver like four or five times. I've done like

602
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 2: some shows there. I've gone there just to hang out.

603
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Speaker 2: And I've probably talked about this on the podcast before,

604
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: but the first time I went to Denver, I stayed

605
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Speaker 2: at the most awesome Airbnb of all time.

606
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Speaker 1: It was called Yeah, it was called Hostile Cush.

607
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: And it's like if the guy who sold you weed

608
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: in high school turned his house into a hotel nice

609
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: and you're just like in a basement with a bunch

610
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: of people like smoking blunts inside.

611
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome. Yeah, shout out Hostel Cush.

612
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're still around, but yeah, yeah,

613
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 2: what uh?

614
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: What's what are you do?

615
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: You miss Denver?

616
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 7: No?

617
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 8: No, no, I missed the mountains, but I feel like

618
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 8: I like New York a lot better. Yeah, there's more

619
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 8: for me here, I would say, but that's subjective.

620
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's less isolation.

621
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, there's more community here.

622
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 9: I would say, that's cool.

623
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're making friends in college.

624
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm trying to say yes and succeeding.

625
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: Have you met any enemies?

626
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 6: Mmm?

627
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 8: Maybe, I don't know if they would call me their enemy,

628
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 8: but there are some people who I'm like, Okay, you

629
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 8: were raised very differently than I will.

630
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Speaker 2: Okay, but have you felt like, have you felt the

631
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: presence of any shade?

632
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 7: Have you felt as though the presence of shade?

633
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 3: Ye?

634
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 7: Yes I have, Yes, I have.

635
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 2: And you know, like we're not naming names, we're not

636
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: getting specific, but what is it that makes you feel

637
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: a shade?

638
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 8: I feel like people see me and they might assume

639
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 8: that I'm less competent than them because I'm in a

640
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 8: different tax bracket, or because I'm a girl, or because

641
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 8: you know, I'm black, And I feel like, I don't know.

642
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 8: I don't want to think too much into it, so

643
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 8: I try not to read into it. But I do

644
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 8: feel like some people like mansplain certain things to me

645
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 8: and they're.

646
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Speaker 7: Like, well, yeah, the Matrix was a movie centered around

647
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Speaker 7: and I'm like, my name is Trinity. Like I've seen

648
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 7: the Matrix before, Like you.

649
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: Know, I saw the Western name meaning Trinity. I mean

650
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: I've never seen the Matrix. By the way, is there

651
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: a character in a name Trinity?

652
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

653
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 8: Okay, So a lot of film bros associate my name

654
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 8: with the Matrix and then they try to man explain

655
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 8: certain things to me.

656
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 7: But I don't know. I don't take that is necessarily offensive.

657
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: What's going on with the film bros?

658
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 4: Like?

659
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: Who?

660
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: Who are the film bros? These days?

661
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 7: What's going on with the film bros? That's a great

662
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 7: question that I might want.

663
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: What's their movie? Because I had a big I was

664
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Speaker 2: a film bro. I had a big poster of pulp

665
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Speaker 2: fiction in my uh, in my dorm room.

666
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Speaker 7: So your descendants are still active today?

667
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 6: Okay?

668
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: And there are we still worshiping pulp fiction, Quentin, it's

669
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Speaker 2: the post They're still around. Yes, have you been in

670
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: a dorm room and seen pulp fiction posters? I have?

671
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Speaker 1: That makes me as happy as it makes me sad.

672
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 7: Really, you're a pulp fiction fan.

673
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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it in a long time, but you know,

674
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: it's a good It was kind of fun to have

675
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: it be like my identity for a little bit.

676
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I could see that.

677
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, Pulp Fiction, American Psycho fight Club. Those are the

678
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 8: top three film bro fanatic.

679
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Speaker 1: Do you do you fuck with those movies?

680
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 7: I mean they're not.

681
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 8: Bad, but I don't worship them. I don't have them

682
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 8: printed out on every side of my dorm room.

683
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: To do you have a movie or a thing printed

684
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: out on every side of your dorm room.

685
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 8: No, but I do like Sean Baker the Florida Project, Anora.

686
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 8: I like that sort of genre of filmmaking.

687
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: But cool, cool, all right, final final.

688
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: Thing, finally answer, what's do you have a movie in

689
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: the works? M if people? What's you had? Two named

690
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: Trinity Trinity Rain?

691
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: So if people people are good?

692
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: This is the first appearance of the of the to

693
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: be famous film director Trinity Rain.

694
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: What uh what? What's?

695
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: What's what's the what's the idea that people can be

696
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: excited to see you on the screen from you soon? Well?

697
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 7: I write and direct.

698
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 8: I really like, you know, character driven dramas, and I'm

699
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 8: just casting people all over from New York.

700
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 7: You don't have to act.

701
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 8: I love people who actually emit the character that I'm writing.

702
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 8: So sometimes I might make a film and write a

703
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 8: certain character into it. But I mean, am I okay

704
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 8: to plug my Instagram?

705
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

706
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: Go plug away, go crazy.

707
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 7: Trin two like the number two cosmic trind to cosmic

708
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 7: on Instagram if you care. My page is not as

709
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 7: cool as the real geck go.

710
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: You gotta get and I by the hold on, I'm

711
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: about to give really hypocritical advice Okay, I'm listening, but

712
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: you gotta get a less fucked up user name because

713
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: once you because once you start having to be like,

714
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: it's Trinity with uh, there's a period here, and there's

715
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: two and there's an underscore.

716
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: Mine is Lyle for I always have to go It's

717
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: Lyle forever.

718
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 9: But the four is a four?

719
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, but throws them off a little bit.

720
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

721
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: Is Trinity Grace taken?

722
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 8: I keep saying to get that today every variation is taken.

723
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 8: There's one girl who has Trinity Rain, but she hasn't

724
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 8: been active in like five ten years. So I wanted

725
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 8: to find her business email and be like, I will

726
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 8: cash at you just for the rights to that user name.

727
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 7: She's gone. She's a ghost.

728
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: Hey what about Rain Wilson.

729
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 7: Rain Wilson, Where does the Wilson come from?

730
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: Let you know, from the office?

731
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 7: Ah? Maybe? But is that impostor?

732
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: Like?

733
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 7: Am I impersonating? Would you think? Because that's not me?

734
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 7: I'm not Wilson. What do you think My last question

735
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 7: for you? What do you think my suld be?

736
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: What I think your name should be? Trinity Rain Wilson.

737
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: I bet that's not taken. I bet that's not taken.

738
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: I bet Trinity Rain Wilson is not all right, so

739
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: you can follow her on Trinity tea Trinity but with

740
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: two's instead of the entities. Yes, or and if she's

741
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: not there, maybe she changed it to Trinity.

742
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 7: Rain will Wilson. I'll let you know.

743
00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: Rain.

744
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: Thank you very much by Trinity Raim of course.

745
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: Have a seat.

746
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: Hello, sir, have a seat, Have a seat. What is

747
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: your name?

748
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: My name is Sava.

749
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: Sava. Yeah, what what's the origin of that?

750
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: It's from Serbia. I'm from Serbia.

751
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Oh cool?

752
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: Are were you born there? Uh?

753
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: No, I was born in Florida. My parents are Serbian.

754
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: O savak you a favorite hold it like a little

755
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: bit closer.

756
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I moved to Serbia when I was

757
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: nine years old.

758
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: What's lifelike in Serbia?

759
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: Uh, It's really good. It's actually very peaceful. Right now,

760
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: we're having some problems with corruption. There's a lot of

761
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: protest going on, okay, but usually it's very nice.

762
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: Actually, so I guess coming from I'm curious about this,

763
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: Not to get into a bunch of shit, but I

764
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: am curious coming from a place that is having like

765
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: its own issues with like corruption and the government and

766
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: like protests and stuff. Do you look at America like

767
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: that's nothing, or do you look at America like, oh,

768
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: you guys, I see what's some shit's going down?

769
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's shit going down here. I think

770
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: think the difference is here they do it somehow, like legally,

771
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: let's say, for example, lobbying. Yeah, it's like, you know,

772
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: a corporation sponsors a politician to push their agenda. Whereas

773
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: there it's like, you know, a guy pays the guy

774
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: under the table so he can illegally construct a building

775
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: or something.

776
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: So we're doing the same thing that's going on in Serbia,

777
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: but we're doing it. We've created a system where it's legal.

778
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: In a way. Yeah, I would say that, Yeah, what.

779
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: Brought you here to the States?

780
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: I came here for modeling and acting.

781
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: Modeling and acting, Yes, sir, Okay, that's pretty cool. What

782
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: how's the modeling industry?

783
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: It's good, the modeling industry, it's it's interesting. Yeah, I

784
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: guess it varies from different perspectives. I would say that

785
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: I didn't really like if I could put it in

786
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: two ways, there's the guy who wanted to be or

787
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: girl who wanted to be a model, and then so

788
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 3: they take it very serious. And then there's also the

789
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: ones that got stopped on the street and kind of

790
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: got into it, and then they don't take it as serious.

791
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: And which one is you?

792
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: The second one?

793
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: Second one? Okay, see one doesn't take it as serious.

794
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

795
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: I feel like you can see in the face, Like

796
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: you can see in the face of the model who's

797
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: the most serious. Because if someone's doing like a real

798
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: serious model face, like they're opposing for Vogue or whatever. Yeah,

799
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: but like if someone like like I was in Target

800
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: and the people wearing those clothes they're just laughing, you

801
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: can tell they're having a good time. I know it's

802
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 2: posed that way, but I do still believe that they're

803
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: just they just were having a good time when they

804
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: were smiling and laughing.

805
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, my target pay is probably much higher than

806
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: those high fashioned brands pay. Surprisingly.

807
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: What kind of who? What kind of like clients have

808
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: you modeled for?

809
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: Uh?

810
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: I've modeled for a few. I'd say the one that

811
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: I take the most pride in would be Polo. Ralph

812
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: Lourenzo a model for Polo. Yeah, did they give you

813
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: free shit? Everybody asked that no free underwear? Because I

814
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: came in boxers, and they were like, you know, you

815
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: can't be wearing random boxers. So they give you, like,

816
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 3: you know, polo underwear. But no, but the people who

817
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: do work for them get a fifty percent discount. But

818
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: but I technically am like a free lance so I

819
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: technically don't.

820
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: So what's your hinge look like? Does a crash your

821
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: phone every time you open it?

822
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: Actually I haven't had hinge in a long time. I'm

823
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: going to show you something I think you'll like this. Okay, please,

824
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 3: this is my phone you have a clan.

825
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: For for those on audio this this guy is a

826
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: bedazzled flip phone. Wow.

827
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: Holy shit?

828
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: Is that?

829
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: And that's what you've been rocking with. That's what I've

830
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: been rocking with, the bedazzle flip phone.

831
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: I think it's about four months now. I do. I

832
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: don't want to, you know, say I don't have I

833
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: do have an Android phone at home when I need

834
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: to use Instagram and stuff like that, I still have it.

835
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: But this is what I carry around for my everyday use. Wow.

836
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: And yeah, and.

837
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: So what made you decide to downgrade or get a

838
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: second pune?

839
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: I think, uh, the main thing was was actually a

840
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: little bit of nostalgia because when I was younger in Serbia,

841
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: I had a Nokia and I also been dazzled it,

842
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: and I just kind of missed that era of when

843
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 3: I was, when I was a kid and I didn't

844
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: really care about about you know, those certain things. Yeah,

845
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: and so I decided to go back to it. This

846
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: one though, it has touch screen, it has Google Maps.

847
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: What's up? An email? So I can still get my

848
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: work done without you know, having to use a smartphone.

849
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: That one has Google Maps.

850
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: It does?

851
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 2: It's that seems so annoying to use Google Map. Yeah,

852
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: it's type on it? Is it like you actually have

853
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: to hit like one two three?

854
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: You can do one two three. But it's touch screen

855
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: as well, so you can you can do like the

856
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: little keypad on the touch screen.

857
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: But no Instagram, porn, no redit.

858
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: Well you could probably watch porn on it, but it

859
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: has Google but I personally don't watch porn on on

860
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: my flip phone.

861
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: Good for you, now, what how do you you do

862
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: you feel because a lot of people they have the fear,

863
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: myself included of like, okay, if I'm not carrying around

864
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: my phone with me at all times, how am I

865
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 2: going to be connected to the world.

866
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: How do you But okay, so you have a skateboard, right?

867
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

868
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: Are you so you're a skater, sir?

869
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: Is the skate world just like if I show up

870
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 2: to this physical location, I know that there will be

871
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: friends and people like that.

872
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: That is kind of exactly what it's what it's like,

873
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: you know, shout out to skateboarding because wherever I've traveled

874
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: in the world, if I brought my skateboard with me,

875
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: I was able to meet a local person. I was

876
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 3: able to be introduced to the culture, to the cool spots.

877
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: And I think if I didn't have a skateboard, it

878
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: would be harder to integrate into certain, you know, places

879
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 3: when I visited them.

880
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: So that's what you need.

881
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: Everyone needs their metaphorical skateboard.

882
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: Yep.

883
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: You know that can kind of connect you wherever you

884
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: go because whenever you're like, hobby is it's cool because

885
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 2: it's I mean, most hobbies are kind of represented around

886
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: the world, whether it's like fucking, you know, kickball or whatever,

887
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: and you kind of find your way to pick your

888
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: spots in it. What how long you've been skating for

889
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: about eight years? How have you fucked You're gotten fucked up?

890
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: I've gotten fucked up. Thank god, I haven't broken anything,

891
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: but but yeah, I mean every single time I go out,

892
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 3: I get a little fucked up. The worst thing so

893
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 3: far I've got fucked up is my back. Yeah it's

894
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: still a little bit fucked up now, but yeah, only

895
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: only like twisted ankles where I'm out for like two

896
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: months and stuff like that. But surprisingly it it's kind

897
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: of nice. You know. It's when you fall, it's it's

898
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: it's hard to explain it, but sometimes you're just so

899
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: full of shit and you go out on your skateboard

900
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: and it beats you up and it kind of puts

901
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 3: you back in your place.

902
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, have you've had that part where you're like,

903
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do everyone watch this, I'm gonna do a

904
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: backflip and your skateboards like nope.

905
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Usually it's when I see a group of

906
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: cute girls, for example, and then and then it's I

907
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: won't even try anything crazy, but you know, karma or

908
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it just just kicks in

909
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: and then you just spill right in front of them

910
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: and then kind of get a little embarrassed and put

911
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: in your place.

912
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, how's your dating life in New York.

913
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not that good.

914
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: No, are you, like, are you going on dates or anything?

915
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been on it. Actually I was supposed to

916
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: go on a date two days ago. It was a

917
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 3: very nice date. We planned to go to the Botanical gardens, Wow,

918
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: which are beautiful. I met the girl here in Washington

919
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: Square Park and last minute she did this weird thing.

920
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: She sent me a message. She said, let's play a

921
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: game with the universe. Are you ready for this? Play

922
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: a game with the universe. We're not going to go

923
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 3: on the date tomorrow, but if we see each other

924
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: again in the streets, then it's meant to be. And

925
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: I was, you know, I tried to take it like

926
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: like she was trying to be cool, but then somebody

927
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: told me no, she just didn't know how to like

928
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: say no, so she she used that excuse. I don't

929
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: know which one it is.

930
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: That's that's an awesome line. Yeah, let's play a game

931
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: with the universe. If we see each other again, it's

932
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: meant to be.

933
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

934
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's gonna get fucked because what if she

935
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: sees you again? Yeah, let's play another another game. We

936
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: see each other a third time?

937
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm wearing a pink.

938
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: Hat, and I happen to be wearing a pink hat, and.

939
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: Then it's meant to be. Yeah, I don't know. But

940
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: then my friend he told me, he said, you should

941
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: value yourself and not really let it get to And

942
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: then he came last minute, he clocked out of his job.

943
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: Shout out, rafa. He clocked out of his job and

944
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 3: came with me to the botanical gardens. So I didn't

945
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 3: go alone because I bought the tickets and everything.

946
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: So wow, you got, you got, dude. The scre is

947
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: he's a skater, skater, skate community. It seems like it

948
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: looks out for each other.

949
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: We do, We try to, you know, I mean, as

950
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 3: in every community. Sometimes you know, you get you get

951
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 3: a douchebag here and there, but but mostly we're cool

952
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 3: guys who kind of you know, you know. There's it's nice.

953
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 6: It's nice.

954
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: So I'll ask you a couple more questions before you

955
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: get out of here. What's your what's your dream in life?

956
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 3: Sir?

957
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: What do you want to do with yourself?

958
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 3: Well, actually I was listening to the last girl. I

959
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: also want to do writing and and make a movie.

960
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: It's kind of my dream let's just say, make one movie.

961
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 2: One movie. Yeah, they're actually are you familiar with the movie?

962
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: A serbian film?

963
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god, don't ever watch that. Don't ever watch

964
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 3: that movie. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, you can make.

965
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: A serbian film too, and it's just people hugging.

966
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: For an hour and a half.

967
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: That's a that's a really good idea actually, because you know,

968
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: if you can imagine the opposite of people hugging for

969
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 3: an hour and a half, that's kind of a good

970
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: way to explain the.

971
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 2: Opposite of people hugging for an hour and a half.

972
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, in the worst type of a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

973
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: not a good not a good movie at all.

974
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 6: But but yeah, nice man.

975
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: Well, uh, let's see from how long have we been

976
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: going for? Forty two?

977
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: Okay, you got a time limit on this.

978
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: No, I'm trying to get to an hour, I would say, okay, yeah,

979
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: I feel like I have more things I want to

980
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: ask you.

981
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: How about mom against marijuana? Oh?

982
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, a mom a mom against marijuana.

983
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: Are you a weed guy?

984
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: You know, I smoke weed. Lately, I haven't been smoking

985
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: as much because and this is a shared experience with

986
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: a lot of people that I've heard is at one

987
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: point it stopped making them feel giggly and happy and

988
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: it started making them feel like paranoid and anxious. Oh yeah,

989
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

990
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: You haven't gotten there yet.

991
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: No. I did get there, which is why I took

992
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: it down a little bit.

993
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

994
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 3: But for example, when it comes to things like writing, yeah,

995
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: I feel like it helps me sometimes real though, so

996
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 3: I'll like, I'm more of a when I get home

997
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: and I'm alone, I'll smoke a spliff and it helps you. Yeah.

998
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: Sometimes that's really cool.

999
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: When I was in high school and college and still

1000
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: a little bit now, I had because you see, like

1001
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: Seth Rogen and like Snoop Dogg and Kevin Smith and

1002
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: all these guys who and you have this thought in

1003
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: your head that's so dumb, where you're like, I'm going

1004
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: to get high and then I will magically and then

1005
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: because I got high, I will magically, effortless, effortlessly create

1006
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: something awesome.

1007
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1008
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 2: Then you realize it doesn't it doesn't, yeah, And then

1009
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 2: you get high, you get anxious yeah.

1010
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, or you know it's up there somewhere, but

1011
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: you can't write it out because you're just so high.

1012
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 3: It's just like you know, yeah, but it works, it works,

1013
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: it works. It works for me. It's more of a

1014
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: like to get that idea, where then when I actually

1015
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: want to get down and write, it's more like in

1016
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: the morning, drink of coffee and write it. But but

1017
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: for the idea, I like to get high your ear.

1018
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: Get high and model or you like, wy are my

1019
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 2: thumbs lately?

1020
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 3: No, When I was when I was younger, I would

1021
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 3: when I first got into it, I would smoke, like

1022
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 3: on the lunch break, I'd smoke a little split. But

1023
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: then again then it didn't hit me like that. Then

1024
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: it would just be like, you know, I would just

1025
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: kind of be there. It wasn't that bad. Now, I

1026
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: feel like if I were to get high at a job,

1027
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 3: I would definitely be like, you know, does this guy

1028
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: know I'm high? Am I doing something wrong? You know

1029
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: what I mean? I'd be way up in my head

1030
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: and it wouldn't be good at all.

1031
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: Where can the people? Where can the people find you?

1032
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: Do you want the people to find you?

1033
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? I guess you can find me. My name is

1034
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: Sava s A v A. My last my last name

1035
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: is kind of hard Suvacharov s u v A c

1036
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: A r O V and that's my Instagram, my modeling instagram.

1037
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, if you want to find me,

1038
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: you can. But I'm trying to actually do a transition

1039
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: to to writing and acting. So if you need an actor,

1040
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 3: you can find me. If you need a model, maybe

1041
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 3: you can find someone else.

1042
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 2: Well, well, what's your name?

1043
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: What's your name?

1044
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: I'm Lyle Lyle all right?

1045
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you said it when you said your Instagram name.

1046
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: You just said your name and I asked you I

1047
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: have I have pretty bad short term memory.

1048
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: You think it's from smoking weed?

1049
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: Probably?

1050
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: Probably? Yea, you ever did mushrooms before?

1051
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm trying to I'm trying to be just

1052
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: a coffee guy now. Yeah, coffee and uh Reese's cups.

1053
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: But that's it for me. Nice to meet you.

1054
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: Have a good rest of your entire life.

1055
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 3: Brother, you too.

1056
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 2: Let's see who wants to talk? Come sit down here,

1057
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: you have a seat you The people couldn't hear it,

1058
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: but she just said, oh my god, this is so fancy.

1059
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 10: I mean, I wasn't expecting like a whole setup.

1060
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: This is not I'm if if this is your I

1061
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: gotta say, if this is your, like, what's the word,

1062
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: what's the barometer for a fancy then you're gonna have

1063
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: an awesome life. You're you're easy to make happy, it

1064
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 2: would seem I appreciate that. What's your name, I'm Hannah,

1065
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: Hannah Lyleice to meet you. What's what's uh? What's the

1066
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: worst thing in the world right now? You think? What's

1067
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: what's horrible? What's horrible?

1068
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 7: I don't want to actually talk about it?

1069
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right?

1070
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 5: Probably politics?

1071
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 8: Right?

1072
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: Sure?

1073
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, yeah, what's uh? What's going on with you?

1074
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: Hannah?

1075
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 10: I have a lot of mid terms this week, so

1076
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 10: I'm I'm I'm drowning in work.

1077
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to do it?

1078
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 7: What midterms?

1079
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1080
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, I don't. I don't have to

1081
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: do anything.

1082
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: You don't have to do You don't have to do anything. Yeah,

1083
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: you can just let you know. What I've always wondered

1084
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: is like, all right, you see like that spot over

1085
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: there about like sometimes I'll do that, but be like,

1086
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: how long could I just stand there before I'm physically removed?

1087
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: And then where are they going to.

1088
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 2: Physically How like if you decide to stiffen up, right,

1089
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 2: like eventually the police will come to move you or whatever,

1090
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: But then wherever they move you.

1091
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: What if you just stiffen up there?

1092
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: Like, how how long can you actually literally not do anything?

1093
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: I guess eventually you starve to death.

1094
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 7: But I guess so.

1095
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 10: But I guess that's what I'm kind of trying right

1096
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 10: now here, sitting with you instead of studying.

1097
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: So what what do you study?

1098
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 5: Economics?

1099
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: Okay? Are we fucked like from your like from like

1100
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: a text book and analysis? Because I've never read an

1101
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: economics textbook.

1102
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 10: Maybe in the like next decade, i'd say, I'm not

1103
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 10: gonna lie, I'm not I'm a sophomore.

1104
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what. Okay, you think we're fucked for

1105
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: the next decade, but after that we'll be Okay, I'll

1106
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: keep I'll.

1107
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 10: Keep a pull, and I'm gonna i'll keep track of.

1108
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: What's going on into tariffs should we do tariffs?

1109
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 7: Oh?

1110
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 10: I heard that's a political tactic for Do you listen

1111
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 10: to the Daily?

1112
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: No, you should listen to the it's a political tactic. Yeah, okay,

1113
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: so he so he's got a strategy.

1114
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's like I mean, it's like economics.

1115
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: Sorright, So he's not just he's not just doing random

1116
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: ship you think he's got like a plan.

1117
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 10: Well wait, I'm not I'm not sure. I'm not sure,

1118
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 10: but I listened to a good daily podcast about it.

1119
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's cool. We can just repeat what was

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00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 2: going on on that podcast. I'm gonna spread misinformation, so

1121
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: that's okay. Look, this is the perfect podcast to spread

1122
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: misinformation on because anyone who takes any information from this

1123
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: show and then goes out and it's like I learned

1124
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: what tariffs are from the Talking Gecko Show, It's like.

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00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: All right, well you fucked yourself.

1126
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: Anyway, I really don't.

1127
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 10: I don't want to be the one to give the

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00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 10: false information.

1129
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: What do you do with your time away from the economics?

1130
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 7: You know? I actually came out here to journal.

1131
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, your journal a lot like I.

1132
00:48:55,239 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 10: Just started, and I'm getting into like pilates Okay, like

1133
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 10: everyone's doing that.

1134
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 2: I guess what what do you? What do you plan

1135
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: to journal about today?

1136
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 10: Probably how stressed I am about my test coming up? Okay,

1137
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 10: but this is a good this is a good outlet too,

1138
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 10: I guess.

1139
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: Okay, alternative Okay, what uh? I'm also avid journaler. I've

1140
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: been journaling for like eight years. I got like eight

1141
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: years of journals and here's the problem with journals is

1142
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: it journals call you out in a very specific way,

1143
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: because what's gonna is is, if you journal long enough,

1144
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: something very scary happens. Okay, so well, okay, Well it's

1145
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 2: a double edged sord. It's a double unch sword because

1146
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 2: you'll read a journal from five years ago, okay, and

1147
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: and it's a double edged sword. You'll be like, oh,

1148
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: this thing that I was dealing, like you were stressed

1149
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: out about midterms, right, and then five years later you're like,

1150
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: I was stressed out about midterms. My life. My problems

1151
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: are way worse now, you know what I mean, Like

1152
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: I I can't even believe that this thing. But then

1153
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 2: that's kind of good because now you understand the pattern

1154
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: of like, whatever I'm stressed out about now, five years

1155
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: from then, I won't even give a shit about. But

1156
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: here's where it's bad is you'll be like, Okay, five

1157
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: years ago, you'll say to yourself like I want to

1158
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: change these things about my life. And if you're.

1159
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: It'll call you out because you'll be like.

1160
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 2: You'll look back and be like, oh crap, I still

1161
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: have these issues from five years ago. Some of them linger,

1162
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: but some of them will change and go away. But

1163
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 2: it's good to have some documentation of what was bothering

1164
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: you or what you wanted at some point in your

1165
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: life and then compare it to your life now.

1166
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 10: I also think it it's a I think overall it's

1167
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 10: a positive thing. It's a positive thing, and like when

1168
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 10: you look back on it, it's like, oh, it gives

1169
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 10: you more ease because you'll know that, like whatever you're

1170
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 10: going through later, like oh, this is not going to

1171
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 10: be as significant to me the next year or something, right, right, right,

1172
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 10: So I don't know. I have to try it out

1173
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 10: and I'll wait five years and see if that works.

1174
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know.

1175
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 10: Nothing has happened yet, so i'll try.

1176
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 7: I'll try. I'll try to do that to journal.

1177
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, so our tariffs good or bad?

1178
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: This is gonna be on the test.

1179
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 7: Can I give a no answer?

1180
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 5: Please?

1181
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: Could you give a no no answer? Okay, you plead

1182
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: the fifth.

1183
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 10: I'm afraid I'm gonna say something wrong.

1184
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.

1185
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could say the tariffs are good, the tariffs

1186
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: are bad. And then but there's plausible deniability. Yeah, because

1187
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 2: if someone I guess, there's plausible deniability because nothing, nothing's

1188
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 2: real or matters.

1189
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 10: Wow, well I think that for me at least, like

1190
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 10: when I go on social media and I see like

1191
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 10: a lot of things spread and in my classes and

1192
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 10: stuff we all learned about how like oh, you shouldn't

1193
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 10: listen to these podcasts and you shouldn't read.

1194
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 7: This on the news, and you shouldn't do this.

1195
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 10: So like it makes it like really scary to like

1196
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 10: say what you want to say, because then it's like

1197
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 10: I don't want to tribute to someone else thinking something

1198
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 10: wrong because of my misconception of something I don't really

1199
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 10: know about.

1200
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: But I think that isn't that like life? Isn't that

1201
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: how we come to a content. Everyone just says stuff

1202
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: and we kind of vote on what reality is.

1203
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: It's kind of a vote, right, Like.

1204
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 10: You can say, like you, I feel like you have

1205
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 10: to do like some sort of like research or like

1206
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 10: fact checking before you.

1207
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: Facts.

1208
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: Facts are a vote in a sense, right, Like, Okay,

1209
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: we like it's a fact. I'm pretty sure I just

1210
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: ranted about this on on on the last podcast I

1211
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 2: put out, but I I'm gonna do it again, Like

1212
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: the sky is blue? Right, Okay, but how did that

1213
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: become a fact?

1214
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 3: It was?

1215
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: It was kind of democratically decided and then grandfathered into

1216
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: everyone's minds through through brainwashing that the sky is blue.

1217
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 10: Okay, But then that causes some loopholks, and you're like, okay,

1218
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 10: it's blue is blue?

1219
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: Who who decided blue was blue?

1220
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 10: What about like the color like the word, the phonetic

1221
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 10: whatever pronunciation of blue?

1222
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 7: Like who said that?

1223
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: And I could sit here, Oh yeah, I was arguing

1224
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: with the guy about truth, and I could sit here,

1225
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: and I could say the sky is green, and I

1226
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: have I have a vote. You know, I that is

1227
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 2: my vote. It's not my vote. I'll I'll go ahead

1228
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: and concede, or actually I'll abstain. I don't really give

1229
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: a fuck what color the sky is. But if my

1230
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: vote is that the sky is green, that's still my vote.

1231
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: I'm I'm vastly outvoted by by textbooks, by society, by

1232
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: the common consensus, but I still get a vote. It's

1233
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: still a democratic process.

1234
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 7: I guess you're right.

1235
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: My vote just.

1236
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, Right.

1237
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 5: It's not.

1238
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 7: It's just gonna be.

1239
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: No one's gonna agree with you, right, no one's gonna

1240
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: agree with me. But I still get my vote. In

1241
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: my own reality, because reality is I guess, the sum

1242
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: total of everyone's subjective idea of it sort of right.

1243
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean you're right, just and then but and

1244
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 10: it's like if you think like that, then it's like, okay,

1245
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 10: so what's the fact and what's what's not a fact?

1246
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 7: Is fact the real truth?

1247
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: You shouldn't think about it too much. You should just

1248
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: kind of dude, yesterday, this doesn't mean anything. But I

1249
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: had to say is yesterday I went in to a

1250
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: I went to Target, and I was like, and I

1251
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: asked the guy at the store if he knew where

1252
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: something was, and I was like, I am. I am

1253
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: so deeply entrenched in reality right now, and it feels awesome.

1254
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: So you should do stuff like that instead of wondering

1255
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: what color the sky is?

1256
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 7: You know, sorry, how did that relate to the color

1257
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 7: of the sky.

1258
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: Because it's like you could sit around questioning reality and

1259
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: wondering what color the sky is, or you can, like,

1260
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 2: or you can go to a store and ask someone

1261
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: where the where bottled water is and then go home

1262
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: and do dishes and then call your friend and tell

1263
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: them about a television show that you saw, and you

1264
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: can just just accept just like keep acceptance of whatever

1265
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: life is, and without thinking about it, you'll have a

1266
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: way better time.

1267
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: I guess that's what I'm saying.

1268
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 7: I agree with that. I feel like I would do that.

1269
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: What's your name again, Hannah?

1270
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 5: Hannah?

1271
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: Hannah's anything else you wants to the people of the

1272
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: computer before we.

1273
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 10: Go, No, I just want to ask you how you

1274
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 10: got into this?

1275
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: Uh today, I got into this. Bye, just on the suit.

1276
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, by putting on the suit, coming out here and

1277
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: setting up microphones and stuff. Nice. Thanks for talking to

1278
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 2: a gecko Hanks. Thanks see you around the universe.

1279
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: Bye, Hannah. Hi, what is your name?

1280
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 9: My name is Scott.

1281
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: Scott.

1282
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: Nice to meet you.

1283
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 9: Nice to meet you.

1284
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: You're uh, you look very clean.

1285
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 9: Thank you. Yeah. I try to, I don't know, try

1286
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 9: to dress a nice.

1287
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: How often do you do laundry?

1288
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 9: I do laundry, like I guess, like once every six days.

1289
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 2: Probably laundry once every six days.

1290
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1291
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 9: Well it's like I just have the one hamper and

1292
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 9: it's like once it gets like reasonably full, just throw

1293
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 9: the laundry in. Just do it like one load at

1294
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 9: a time.

1295
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: God.

1296
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 2: That's I was just talking about being in reality and

1297
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: not wondering what the sky was and you, I'm that's

1298
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: doing laundry six days a week is deep in in

1299
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 2: reality and I have so much respect for that, and

1300
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: that's awesome, and I think I'm doing my best.

1301
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 9: I think I disagree listening in on your on your

1302
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 9: take about facts. I think I disagree with your take

1303
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 9: about the facts.

1304
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: And you know what, you know what, that's your vote

1305
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: to disagree.

1306
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 2: Well, this is why you can't disagree, because your disagreement

1307
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: is a vote.

1308
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,479
Speaker 1: Well, I think I agree with why vote? Okay, go ahead,

1309
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: go ahead?

1310
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: What's your name?

1311
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 9: My name is Scott.

1312
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: Scott. Okay.

1313
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 9: I think there's a difference between facts that like are

1314
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 9: have like a foundation in human experience. Yeah, there can

1315
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 9: be like a disagreement on like how often is the

1316
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 9: And I guess that's even getting into opinion. But like

1317
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 9: if you're asking, like you know, the fact of like

1318
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 9: will styrofoam dissolve in like a certain acid? You can,

1319
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 9: you can vote no, but your vote isn't gonna change

1320
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 9: the syrophoam.

1321
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 2: Yeah you can.

1322
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 9: You can sit there and watch it and sure, but.

1323
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: I can, but what is styrofoam?

1324
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 9: Well, I mean I guess, yeah, you can get into

1325
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 9: this the you know, you can be pedantic about what

1326
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 9: counts as styrophoam. Yeah, sure, if we can agree on

1327
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 9: like a constraint of like what the chemical compound of styrofoam.

1328
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: Is, Okay, okay, acid? So you're this is hilarious that

1329
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 2: we're gonna I don't what I'm having. I'm having fun

1330
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: having I'm having fun being an insane person right now.

1331
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 8: What.

1332
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: Okay?

1333
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: So, yes, you're correct, It doesn't change the reality that

1334
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: skyrofoam does dissolve an acid. But what if everyone just

1335
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: said it didn't, Well, then who It's like the tree

1336
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: a tree falls in a forest, no one's around to

1337
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: hear it.

1338
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: Does the tree still fall?

1339
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1340
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 9: And I mean everybody can say that, but that still

1341
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 9: won't change. Like I think there is like an objective

1342
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 9: reality side of us, where like even if everybody says

1343
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 9: that it won't, when they drop the styrofoam cup in,

1344
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 9: it's still going to disappear.

1345
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: I still vote that it won I still I still

1346
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: I still believe that ignorance is a powerful serum that

1347
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: you can really really really you know all right, you're right, well,

1348
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: and you're right you know what you you know what

1349
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: you're doing right now? Is your lobbying you're lobby or no,

1350
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: you're not living, you're not loving.

1351
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's the wrong way. You're campaigning campaigning.

1352
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: You're campaigning that styrofoam will dissolve an acid, and you're

1353
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: doing it very successful well.

1354
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 9: And I think the problem is that's a very easy

1355
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 9: thing to test and to verify, whereas most facts are

1356
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 9: not easy to take.

1357
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: So testing and would you testing and verifying is also

1358
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: it's a form of campaigning.

1359
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: For the truth. It's true what you believe to be true.

1360
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 9: Well, and it's less like campaigning for what you believe.

1361
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 9: But I think it's you know, more useful too, especially

1362
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 9: for like the scientific method. It's it's a campaign and

1363
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 9: more just like a form of discovery, is like because

1364
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 9: you can campaign on like some you know, truths that

1365
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 9: are a lot more you know, very difficult or impossible

1366
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 9: to test.

1367
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: But what do you what do you do outside of

1368
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: what do you what do you.

1369
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: Do with your life? Scott?

1370
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 9: I am in law school?

1371
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 2: You're in law school?

1372
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 9: Yes?

1373
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is your bread and butter is arguing

1374
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: facts and truth?

1375
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 9: It sure is?

1376
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: And what's uh? Are you in law school at NYU? I?

1377
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: Sure am grad or undergrad?

1378
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 9: Oh grid, Oh cool, yeah, what what's what's what's that like?

1379
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

1380
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 9: It's fun, it's a it sure is a lot of work. Yeah,

1381
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 9: it's a yeah. I you know, I you go to

1382
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 9: undergrad and you think you work hard, and then you

1383
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 9: go to law school and you're like, wow, okay, now

1384
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 9: I know what working hardly?

1385
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: What do you do for fun? When that when the

1386
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: books are away and you're.

1387
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 9: I come out here. I love this park. It's great,

1388
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 9: but it's an amazing park. I love that there's just

1389
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,959
Speaker 9: like jazz. I can come out and listen whenever I want.

1390
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 9: It's beautiful.

1391
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now law is an interesting thing.

1392
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: I hate that I'm going back to this, but I

1393
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: it's just this is where I'm being to law, is

1394
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: it now? Law is much more subjective? Oh yeah right?

1395
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Like I like.

1396
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: I could argue that murder should be legal. Yeah, and

1397
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: that's my vote. Oh yeah, you know, but there's and

1398
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 2: there's no objective it's not there's no objective fact as

1399
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: to whether or not murder is wrong.

1400
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 9: Yeah. Well, and you can even argue, like you can

1401
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 9: look at a statute and you can essentially argue that

1402
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 9: that statute says whatever you want it to say, yeah,

1403
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 9: and courts will try to be like, yeah, we're starting

1404
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 9: with the text. But even if like even somebody who's

1405
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 9: saying like, oh yeah, this is based in the text, yeah,

1406
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 9: a lot of the time it's they're arguing what they

1407
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 9: want the text.

1408
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 2: Does that make you feel uncomfortable? Like, all right, you know,

1409
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 2: here's the thing I was I'm mainly trolling when I'm

1410
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 2: having when I'm saying that reality is, I'm I'm fifty

1411
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: percent trolling when I say that reality is. Uh, trolling

1412
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: doesn't mean I don't believe, but whatever, you know what,

1413
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: I'm sorry say yeah, But doesn't it make you a

1414
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: little uncomfortable to know that like laws and these institutions

1415
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 2: or whatever, there's no like glue. Uh, there's no glue

1416
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: to them in the same way that there's dependable glue

1417
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: to the fact that styrofoam will melt? An ask, does

1418
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: that make you uncomfortable? Census it's scary because yeah, it's fragile.

1419
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's it is people. It's just ideas.

1420
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, we've I think we as people are pretty

1421
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 9: good at maintaining these institutions and these ideas. In a

1422
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 9: lot of situations. But I mean we can see now

1423
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 9: like these things are fragile.

1424
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can just what if it wasn't your

1425
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: way to becoming the president?

1426
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah, the yeah, the administrative state is a fun

1427
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 9: thing to be watching at the moment, particularly fragile.

1428
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: But what do you do when you're not well? So

1429
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: you you just you come to the park.

1430
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 9: Do you have I like to sing?

1431
01:01:58,560 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: You like to sing?

1432
01:01:59,280 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1433
01:01:59,600 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: What do you say?

1434
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 9: I'm in like the law school a cappella group, which

1435
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 9: is like an undergrad a cappella group. But you know,

1436
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 9: we don't have the time that the undergrad groups do.

1437
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 9: We do our best.

1438
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: Do you read a lot of books?

1439
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 9: I read some books. I'm reading House of Leaves at

1440
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 9: the moment.

1441
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,959
Speaker 1: Why do I know what that is? What is that about?

1442
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 9: It's like a haunted house book kind of. It's also

1443
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 9: like a satire on academia. It's insane to try to

1444
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 9: read it. There's footnotes and footnotes and footnotes. There's text

1445
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 9: in all going in all different directions at certain points.

1446
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 9: It's a it's a journey, but it's fun.

1447
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: Have you ever gone insane or do you feel like

1448
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: you've been pretty attached to reality?

1449
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 9: I think I've been pretty attached to reality.

1450
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think there?

1451
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 9: I I think I've just been lucky. I think in

1452
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 9: a lot of cases, sure, not a lot, like really

1453
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 9: horrible has happened to me, which I feel like, you know,

1454
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 9: just just luck.

1455
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: Nothing horrible has ever happened to you?

1456
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1457
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 9: Nothing, nothing real bad.

1458
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like.

1459
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 2: I I've I'm not well. Do you ever feel like

1460
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: if something horrible has ever happened to you? You ever

1461
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: just like you ever like that in and of itself,

1462
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: You're kind of like, I'm waiting for.

1463
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 9: The shoe to drive hundred percent.

1464
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for this because well, in New York City,

1465
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: you walk around and every day you see people who

1466
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 2: are like, horrible things have clearly happened to this person.

1467
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, why am I? Why not? Why are they happening

1468
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: to this person and not me?

1469
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 9: Yeah? Oh yeah, I feel that way all the time.

1470
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 2: And you're like, what you gotta It's like uh, and

1471
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 2: part of you, like part of your brain goes like,

1472
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 2: I'm not getting out of this alive. I'm not getting

1473
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: out of this. Nobody gets out of this perfectly. So

1474
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: you're a little bit waiting for the shoot to drop.

1475
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, it's it's gonna be something at some point.

1476
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you thinking that you're gonna get robbed,

1477
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna get back?

1478
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 9: What do I think it's gonna be. No, I think

1479
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 9: it's gonna be.

1480
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 3: Like you would.

1481
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: I feel like you would make a great like isis hostage?

1482
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 9: I I yeah, I feel like I've had I've had

1483
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 9: nightmares about like getting kidnapped, and it's always very amicable.

1484
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: Like it's like you convinced that.

1485
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: It's always like it's.

1486
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 9: Like we're just like we just kind of like having

1487
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 9: a conversation in the back of the truck as we're

1488
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 9: like they're taking me to the location, but we're just talking.

1489
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 9: It's it's yeah, it's it's amicable in the sense of

1490
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 9: like I'm not like happy with where I'm at, but

1491
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 9: it's also like I'm not like screaming, crying, They're not

1492
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 9: beating me up.

1493
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,439
Speaker 3: Like it's just.

1494
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 9: I think that's probably how it would go down. I

1495
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 9: think I like i'd be I'd be nervous, but at

1496
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 9: a certain point, like once I've accepted that there's nothing

1497
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 9: I can do to get out of the situation, it's like, well,

1498
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 9: I mean I'm I don't know what they're doing with me,

1499
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 9: but I guess I'll just chat with them. Yeah, I

1500
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 9: gotta make the best of the situation that I'm in.

1501
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: We all have that fan We all have that fantasy

1502
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 2: of like, if I were like being held at gunpoint,

1503
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: I could just look at the guy and be like,

1504
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: hey man, what's this really about? Oh yeah, we all.

1505
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 2: I totally have that fantasy that like I could. I

1506
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 2: used to have a fantasy where like, uh, I would

1507
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: be someone would like help me at gunpoint, right, and

1508
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 2: to get out of it, I would just take off

1509
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 2: all my clothes and start spinning around and going ah.

1510
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: And then they would be like this, this this, this

1511
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 2: guy is crazy. Let's just go yeah. No, you don't

1512
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 2: know if that's how that would go down, though.

1513
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 9: I also have that instinct of like, yeah, I just

1514
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 9: have to out crazy. Whoever is like trying to mug

1515
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 9: me on that cold Could you could you really do that?

1516
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 9: I think I probably could.

1517
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what would you do?

1518
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 3: What?

1519
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: How would you go crazy?

1520
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 9: I think, well, yeah, I'd probably just start moving weird.

1521
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 9: I'd be making bird noises, I'd be getting up in

1522
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 9: their face.

1523
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but like fight, because the fight or flight response,

1524
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: you feel like you could do that.

1525
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 9: That's the thing I think because this has kind of

1526
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 9: happened to me. It was one time I was I

1527
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 9: was in a Walmart waiting for like an oil change,

1528
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 9: and I realized that I was being followed around by

1529
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 9: this guy like he'd been following me around the store

1530
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 9: for like fifteen minutes. I just started walking in circles

1531
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 9: and realized that he was following me. Yeah, And I

1532
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 9: was thinking in my head the whole time, like what

1533
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 9: am I? What am I gonna do to this guy?

1534
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 9: And I went out to like a one of the

1535
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 9: like wider like open areas with more people, okay, And

1536
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 9: as I was thinking about it, he eventually walked away

1537
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 9: and I was like, okay, is he gone? And then

1538
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 9: he walked away and he was okay. But I was

1539
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 9: getting I was I was coming up with a plant.

1540
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 9: I had the wherewithal. I was horrified, but I had

1541
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 9: the wherewithal to be like.

1542
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: What, wow, Okay, this guy was fun. Here's the thing.

1543
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: How long maybe you guys just both like Dorito's how

1544
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 2: do you know that he was? This was This was.

1545
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 9: Fifteen minutes of me walking in a circle and him

1546
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 9: being like about as close as we are now behind me.

1547
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: Why did you talk?

1548
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. It's like you're telling me if you

1549
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: were a kidnapp isis you talked to that? Why don't

1550
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: you talk to this guy? Like like you had no

1551
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 2: instinct to turn around and be like, well, man.

1552
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 3: I didn't.

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01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 9: I didn't want to be like, hey, what's up?

1554
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 3: Man?

1555
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: I was at least turn around, yeah, make a friend.

1556
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 9: He didn't. He didn't look like a friend to me.

1557
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,479
Speaker 9: He was kind of heirs.

1558
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk to him.

1559
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 9: But also, if somebody's gonna like follow me around in

1560
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 9: a Walmart real close, I'm like, Chris Man wants to Like,

1561
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 9: this man's trying to take me. I'm pretty small, but like,

1562
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 9: I don't know. I was like, if I'm gonna if

1563
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 9: I'm gonna do something, it's gotta This needs to be

1564
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 9: a defense mechanism.

1565
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of relief to being taken. Don't

1566
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 2: you think you don't have to make decisions anymore? That's true?

1567
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would.

1568
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 3: I would have.

1569
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 9: I would have in a sense, fewer problems in quantity.

1570
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you weirdly, you weirdly have fewer problems in they It.

1571
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 9: Might be a bigger problem but it is certainly fewer.

1572
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I hope you don't get kidnapped by isis.

1573
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 9: I hope I don't get kidnapped by I hope.

1574
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: That you die at a very old age. Me too,

1575
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: as a lawyer.

1576
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: As a lawyer, and I kind of I I my

1577
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 2: gut ain't worth much, but I I just I really

1578
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: think that you will continue to live a life where

1579
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: nothing horrible happens to you. I'm out now, but we'll see.

1580
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 9: As I'm walking over, I'll just get like, I don't know,

1581
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 9: like ten birds are gonna poop on me at the

1582
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 9: same time, and that'll be the That'll be the love.

1583
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 2: If that's the most horrible thing that ever happens to

1584
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 2: you in your life, that I will take that.

1585
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 9: I'll take that right now if that's if that's the worst.

1586
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: Got anything else gonna say to the people of the

1587
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: computer before we go.

1588
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1589
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 9: Enjoy yourself, have a good time, go outside.

1590
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 2: Scott, Thank you, Scott. Yeah, I'll see you, Uh the sport.

1591
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't know why I said that's that? Wasn't that funny?

1592
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 3: All right?

1593
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: Bye? Scott? Hi there, what is your name?

1594
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 5: Anna?

1595
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 1: Anna?

1596
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:42,560
Speaker 2: Nice to meet you.

1597
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: What's up? How's it going.

1598
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 5: It's good.

1599
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: I like your hat, thank you.

1600
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 5: I like your gi look.

1601
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: Thanks Doug.

1602
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 2: What's uh?

1603
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: What's been the most persistent thought on your mind lately?

1604
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 5: Ooh oh?

1605
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 11: I just so I am in school right now and

1606
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 11: I just left the closet about sex, gender and justice. Okay,

1607
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 11: So I've been reading a lot about intersectional feminist theory.

1608
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 5: So I've been thinking a.

1609
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 2: Lot about that. Okay, exciting stuff. What's the what's all right? Intersexual? Intersexual?

1610
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: Say that again?

1611
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 5: Intersectional feminist?

1612
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: Intersectional gender feminist? What's the main idea? Give us the gist.

1613
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 11: It's kind of looking at like structures of power that

1614
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 11: have been historically been put in place and how they

1615
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 11: benefit men, like the patriarchy or like supremacy. So the

1616
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 11: intersectional side of it is looking at like raised gender,

1617
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 11: like class, and the feminist side of it is bringing

1618
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 11: more like acknowledgment to like the position of subjugation that

1619
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 11: like women, and the idea like how we even understand

1620
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 11: and define what woman is has been developed in society.

1621
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: Sure, Sure, and that's that is the thing. Like there's

1622
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 2: it's an open idea of like what is a woman?

1623
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: Which it kind of goes I don't know if you

1624
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 2: listen to me rant, but sometimes it is I was.

1625
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 2: I was just ranting about reality. No, no, I was

1626
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: just ranting about reality being a democracy.

1627
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that idea.

1628
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 2: I agree it goes because like what what's the roll

1629
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 2: of paper towels? You know, exactly whatever whatever we assigned

1630
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: to it.

1631
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: It's so yeah, but I don't know.

1632
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: Some people are like, uh, facts are facts and fucking

1633
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: styrofoam dissolves in acid, and uh, but I don't know.

1634
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. Ship what do you? What do you do?

1635
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 3: What do you? What do you?

1636
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:26,759
Speaker 2: Is this what you study?

1637
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 10: So?

1638
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 11: I did be here real neuroscience and anthropology before, and

1639
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 11: I'm doing forensic psychology.

1640
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: Now, okay, what's going on in forensic psychology.

1641
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 11: I'm very interested in kind of like how intersects with

1642
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 11: culture and how we define like what is considered abnormal behavior,

1643
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 11: what is considered criminal behavior, and how just subjective of.

1644
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 2: This we were. I was just talking about whether or

1645
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 2: not murders should be legal.

1646
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:50,759
Speaker 1: That's this question.

1647
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 2: Do you think it should be legal?

1648
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 5: In what sense?

1649
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 11: I feel like everything is very contact dependent and I

1650
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 11: feel like some people define abortion.

1651
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 2: I would disagree with that, all right, you see that

1652
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 2: you see that guy over there. If I shouldn't a point,

1653
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: I should not have pointed at a specific person. If

1654
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 2: I but like, if I pointed at a guy and

1655
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't like that guy, I'm gonna

1656
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 2: go kill him.

1657
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: Like, you shouldn't be able to do that.

1658
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 11: I don't think so, because you can just walk away.

1659
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 11: You cannot interact with that guy without having to kill him.

1660
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 2: Wait, that's why I feel like you shouldn't be able

1661
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 2: to do it, because it's he's I mean, this guy

1662
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 2: seems like a nice guy. I don't want to kill him.

1663
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: He looks really nice, smile, and I don't feel bad

1664
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: that I pointed at him and said, but it's not true.

1665
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to kill him. But what I But

1666
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 2: if I did, I should go to jail. Right If

1667
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 2: I kill a guy, I think you.

1668
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 11: Probably should go through some transformative justice process more than jail,

1669
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 11: because I feel like just going to jail he's not

1670
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 11: really gonna change the impulse you had to kill him

1671
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 11: in the first place. So once you come out of jail,

1672
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 11: you might as well just do the same thing.

1673
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, sure, what So Okay, let's say there's a

1674
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 2: guy and he's like, see that guy over there, I'm

1675
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: gonna kill him with a knife. Okay, I'm gonna stab

1676
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: him over and over again, this guy only because I'm

1677
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: not just for no reason, just for fun, just to

1678
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 2: see what it feels like, for just to see what

1679
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 2: it feels like, it for the sake of it. Okay,

1680
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 2: So then from what you from your belief, how do

1681
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: we get what should happen to that guy? Should we

1682
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: is it should we punish him because he killed a guy?

1683
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 2: Or should we get him to a point where he

1684
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 2: didn't want to kill guys anymore?

1685
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 11: I think we should talk to him and figure out

1686
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 11: what made him want to kill someone and kind of

1687
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 11: like understand why do we find life so valuable? Why

1688
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 11: do we find that so ominous and so like tele

1689
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 11: and then like go from there, like see what his

1690
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 11: impulses are, and like it's probably something underlying more about

1691
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 11: himself more than so much about the guy he ended

1692
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 11: up killing.

1693
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: Right, we gotta figure that out?

1694
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, what what do you think it is that

1695
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,759
Speaker 2: makes people want to kill people for no reason?

1696
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 11: I think for some people he's like feeling control. I

1697
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 11: feel like a lot of people feel over it, just

1698
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 11: like subjects of society and like kind of like things

1699
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 11: are imposed onto us. It's like a claim of like

1700
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 11: oh I'm just radically gonna do something and like it's

1701
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 11: gonna have consequences, but I did it.

1702
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: Why people like light fires and shoot?

1703
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, just feeling control?

1704
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, interesting interesting, Yeah, because it is

1705
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:09,560
Speaker 2: like right, okay, right, because let's say you want to

1706
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 2: change the world, like to do it to to change

1707
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 2: the world pro socially is like way more effort, I agree,

1708
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 2: than to change the world anti socially, because it's like

1709
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 2: like the actual process of like killing someone or lighting

1710
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: a building on fire is easier than like writing a.

1711
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 5: Sitting down and processing how you feel about it.

1712
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sitting Like it's way easier than like writing

1713
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 2: a sonnet.

1714
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's easier.

1715
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:40,560
Speaker 2: It's easier than writing.

1716
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: Like a good sonnet.

1717
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 3: I guess. Yeah.

1718
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if what I said is actually true.

1719
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: I think so. I think it makes sense. Like what's

1720
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 2: what's harder? Like like painted, Like I'm talking like in

1721
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 2: a all right, Like if you were putting a white

1722
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 2: room with nothing in it. Yeah, and you there's a

1723
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: paint brush on an easel and a knife and a

1724
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: guy with a stupid face, and it was like, all right,

1725
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 2: to get out of the room, you have to either

1726
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: kill the guy with the stupid face or paint a

1727
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 2: beautiful painting. I guess it's like, again, process wise, easier

1728
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 2: to kill the guy with the stupid face.

1729
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 11: I it's more easy to agree that, like when he's dead,

1730
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 11: it's easy to agree that he's dead.

1731
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: How great that.

1732
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: This guy is dead is easier than the consensus that

1733
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 2: the painting is beautiful? Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

1734
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, what would you do in that case?

1735
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 2: What I do?

1736
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd.

1737
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 2: I would kill the guy and then make a beautiful

1738
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: painting with his blood. Said that, but yeah, there we go, somebody, yes,

1739
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: clap for that. Yes, that's a great thing to say

1740
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: that people should flat for.

1741
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: What would you do?

1742
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: What you do?

1743
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 5: How about stop myself?

1744
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1745
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: I guess you could do that. That's that's that's good.

1746
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 2: That's that's you know what that is The easiest, easiest

1747
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 2: is to just kill yourself, but not how to deal

1748
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 2: with it.

1749
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, then you don't have to deal with it.

1750
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: I mean that's the easiest solution process wise to anything. Yeah,

1751
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 2: you know, that's way easier than get what's the there's

1752
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 2: a giving up swhite harder than the giving ups easier

1753
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: than trying. Yeah, I was about a quota. I think

1754
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: that's a Kanye bar giving up white harder than trying.

1755
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 2: But it's not. It's that's wrong. Yeah, that's wrong. That's

1756
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 2: one of many wrong Yeah things.

1757
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 11: I mean there's some things that like, are you that

1758
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 11: suicide is kind of like holding onto hope that like

1759
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 11: some people kill themselves hoping that he's gonna be better,

1760
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 11: and it's just it's nothing, it's not better.

1761
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: It's like suicide's not holding onto hope.

1762
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 5: Right, I also think it's not holding onto hope.

1763
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying alive is holding onto hop Yeah.

1764
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 11: But I know, like Albert Kamu like talks about like

1765
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 11: suicide in like very like the same terms as like hope.

1766
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 11: It's like people like hope that there's the only way

1767
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 11: they see change possible is by ending their lives and

1768
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 11: hoping that like we don't know what happens after life,

1769
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 11: so like it's kind of like taking a gamble.

1770
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but also you don't.

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01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing is you're gonna find out at

1772
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: one point or another.

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01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 5: Will we Yeah, you find out, okay.

1774
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: Because you die and then you find out, but.

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01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 11: You're not conscious. So are you finding out what happens

1776
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 11: if you're not conscious?

1777
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: That's true?

1778
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, people around you find out. We know what

1779
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 11: that is because people around us, well.

1780
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 2: People around you find out what happens when you die,

1781
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 2: which is that there's a funeral and maybe it's catered

1782
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: and there's something this charcuterie board.

1783
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 5: And very expensive.

1784
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1785
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: What what do you want for your funeral?

1786
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: Do you want the.

1787
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 1: Do you want to be like put in a jar?

1788
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 11: I want to be given to nature. I want like

1789
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 11: trees to eat me and like become food for the environment.

1790
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah, that's cool. Why what's your name again?

1791
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 5: Anna?

1792
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: Anna? Why should people live?

1793
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: Anna?

1794
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 5: Oh that's a heavy question.

1795
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's a lot to put on you.

1796
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 2: I'm just I don't you don't need to have an answer,

1797
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 2: but I'm just curious what you think because you've studied.

1798
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 11: I think we don't really choose to become alive, and

1799
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 11: an unconsensual choice that he's put onto us might as

1800
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 11: well just try it out and see what he feels like. Yeah, sure,

1801
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 11: and play with it because we don't really have an

1802
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 11: option around it.

1803
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 5: And then if you tune out of it. That's I'm

1804
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,440
Speaker 5: not I'm not super anti suicide. I don't know, controversial.

1805
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, yeah, well I don't. I look all right,

1806
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 2: I'll bounce it out. I think, give it a shot.

1807
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 2: Here's the thing I can think of because like, oh,

1808
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 2: there's a ball, a ball almost rolled it. That's my

1809
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 2: worst fear. That's my worst fear of all time. That

1810
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 2: would be my thirteenth. Reason why it's my worst fear

1811
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 2: of all time is that like I'm near like a

1812
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 2: playground or whatever, and there's.

1813
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: A bunch of like cool.

1814
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 2: You have to throw it back, and the ball comes

1815
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 2: near me and I have to like kick it back.

1816
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 2: I'm so afraid that I'm gonna kick it the wrong

1817
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 2: way and then I have to go into the woods

1818
01:17:58,280 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 2: and get it.

1819
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 11: I've seen someone do that. They like kick get into

1820
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 11: a tree, and they ruined the day for the rest

1821
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 11: of the people playing that night.

1822
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1823
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the situation in which I'm not. I'm

1824
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 2: also totally not anti suicide. It's yeah, context dependent. But

1825
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 2: now here's my Okay, here's my argument is there's so

1826
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 2: many different things you could try before you do that.

1827
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:19,560
Speaker 2: I mean, knitting.

1828
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 11: Exactly, you know, or like disappearing and started on your

1829
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 11: life somewhere else. Might as well try that.

1830
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 2: You might as well try there's so many different things

1831
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 2: you your brain only has access to the reality that

1832
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 2: it's that it's experienced thus far.

1833
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you might as well try some new ship.

1834
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's infinite That's the thing is you could, like,

1835
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 2: there's inxact things to try until you turn eighty or whatever.

1836
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 3: The huges.

1837
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: So just keep infinitely trying. And you might because I'll

1838
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 2: take a maybe over.

1839
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 5: A no exactly. Yeah, you never know.

1840
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 11: There's so many choosing might as well just see what

1841
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 11: what happens.

1842
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 2: You just keep choosing maybe.

1843
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I agree.

1844
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 2: I like that, Just keep choosing maybe, would you eat today? Anything?

1845
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't know why I have this problem.

1846
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 2: I think I I think it started since I've been

1847
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 2: doing this podcast of like I just have to turn

1848
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 2: every fucking conversation to some esoteric whatever the fuck thing.

1849
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 2: I was. I was around, uh, these group of guys.

1850
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 2: I've told this story on this podcast probably before. But

1851
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 2: I was around these group of guys and they were

1852
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 2: eating a sandwich and one of them starts crushing chips

1853
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 2: into the sandwich and then they start talking about how

1854
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: awesome it is to crush chips on a sandwich.

1855
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 5: What's your take on that?

1856
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: It's all I love it? And I was like why,

1857
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 2: And I was like, why can't I? I want to

1858
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: have more conversations like this.

1859
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 5: I agree.

1860
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 2: Everyone's always you know those people on dating apps where

1861
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 2: they're like, I only have deep conversations. Yeah, that sounds like.

1862
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: Hell, yeah that sucks.

1863
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 5: It sounds crazy.

1864
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you want to just talk about a simple pleasure.

1865
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 5: That's what we can all agree on easily.

1866
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to talk about something we've been we've

1867
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:58,719
Speaker 2: been getting too into the weeds.

1868
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,799
Speaker 1: You want to talk talk about something normal?

1869
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1870
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,480
Speaker 1: Like what you watch?

1871
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: Anything good on TV? Lately?

1872
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 11: I started watching the new season of White Lotos recently.

1873
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I don't know that one.

1874
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 5: Okay, it's okay. Have you seen that? You you've never

1875
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 5: heard of the show?

1876
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 2: No, I haven't seen it.

1877
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 11: Okay, I recommend The first two seasons were really good.

1878
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 11: The third one I'm still waiting for it to kind

1879
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 11: of like okay, yeah, get better, all right, I'll check

1880
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 11: it out. Yeah, I like it.

1881
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 5: What about you? What do you like to watch?

1882
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: I don't really watch a lot of TV.

1883
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 5: Okay do you read?

1884
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 2: No, not really, what do you do?

1885
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: We'll look at YouTube videos?

1886
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:31,799
Speaker 5: Nice? What type of YouTube videos?

1887
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 2: Stuff like how did how did uh like make thirty

1888
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,799
Speaker 2: thousand dollars from home with Amazon drop shipping?

1889
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 5: Nice? Has it worked for you?

1890
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 3: No?

1891
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 2: I just watched the I watched the first two minutes

1892
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 2: of it, and then I go look at like gameplay

1893
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,719
Speaker 2: from a GameCube for game gameplay from the rug Rats

1894
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 2: GameCube game that I played around as a kid.

1895
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 5: Nice.

1896
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 3: Hell yeah.

1897
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 11: I was looking at tickets for my spring breaks coming up,

1898
01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 11: and I want to figure out what I can do.

1899
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 11: I'm from Columbia. I want to go back to Columbia,

1900
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 11: but tickets are so expensive.

1901
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 2: We're in Columbia from I was born in Bogota.

1902
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 5: I grew up in Melojing.

1903
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 2: My cousin's going to Bogata. Oh nice, Yeah, he's gonna

1904
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 2: for the first time.

1905
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: You have the first time? Okay, any tips for my cousin.

1906
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 5: Don't walk around with your phone out.

1907
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 11: Bogota is more like it's like the New York like

1908
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 11: the Columbia version of New York is very chaotic, is

1909
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 11: very busy, is not like super like tourists friendly as

1910
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 11: much as other cities. I would say, don't judge Columbia

1911
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 11: based off Bogota. I love Bota, but it's not it's

1912
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 11: not like flowers and tropics. That's more like Melojin or

1913
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 11: the coast. But there's a lot of museums and cultural stuff.

1914
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 11: A lot of street art is really cool. The foot

1915
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 11: is the foot is bombed. Yeah, incredible.

1916
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 1: What's what's that? What's Columbian food?

1917
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 3: Like?

1918
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 11: What it changes by city by region because we have

1919
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 11: a lot of like mountains, so altitude. We have a

1920
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 11: lot of like different veggies that grow in Bogota. The

1921
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 11: main dish is called tahiaco, is like a potato based

1922
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 11: soup with chicken, and it's so good that sounds it's

1923
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,799
Speaker 11: so yummy. I'm vegan now, but I'm.

1924
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 2: Still a vegan because like it's like like for ethics

1925
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: reasons or your stomach hurts for ethics.

1926
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 5: I've been vegan for ten years now.

1927
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 2: Oh pretty good, Yeah, pretty good. I'm also, uh, this

1928
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: is another rant I've got.

1929
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 3: I have.

1930
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: I have a simp.

1931
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 3: I have.

1932
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: Fucking like, I have like three rants that I go

1933
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: on and this is one of them. Is like, uh,

1934
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 2: I logically understand that it's unethical to kill animals and

1935
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 2: eat them.

1936
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do it anyway.

1937
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 5: That's fair.

1938
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 11: I feel like I am more comfortable with people that

1939
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 11: understand that and make that choice and then like you're

1940
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 11: making a moral choice of your own decision autonomy, rather

1941
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:43,879
Speaker 11: than like pretending like it's not like you're eating there's.

1942
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: No real Yeah, well we could be fine. We Yeah,

1943
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 2: lots of chickens for no reasons.

1944
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,759
Speaker 11: And I have more problem not so much with consuming meat,

1945
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 11: but with the like how it's massively produced.

1946
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 5: Now, like I don't have a problem.

1947
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 11: He's like a local, like indigenous person or like you

1948
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 11: have your own farm and you like that's I don't

1949
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 11: really mind that.

1950
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 2: But no, I'm like when tight like Tyson dinosaur chicken nuggets,

1951
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 2: you're not like that's a little too much. It's a

1952
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 2: little too much. I will admit it.

1953
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 1: Is fucked up.

1954
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 2: We've gone it's fucked up to kill an animal and

1955
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 2: then make it into.

1956
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 5: The you're laughing at it? What are we doing?

1957
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're trolling chicken. We're we're big trolling chickens. You

1958
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 2: know what, maybe you just maybe you shouldn't have been

1959
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 2: a chicken. Maybe you should have been something cool or

1960
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 2: like a like a guy with a skateboard. Yeah. Uh

1961
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 2: and thanks for talking to about Is there anything else

1962
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 2: you want to say to the people of the computer.

1963
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 11: Uh, not much. I yeah, I'm about to eat some food.

1964
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 11: I'm so hungry, but it was nice.

1965
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 2: I'm hungry too. You made me hungry for for dinosaur chicken. Nice.

1966
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: Well, I'll yeah you too.

1967
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:52,799
Speaker 2: By literally, wow, folks, this has been being a gecko

1968
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 2: on the street.

1969
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: This was good.

1970
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep doing more of these. I I haven't

1971
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 2: done one of these in like nine or two, ten

1972
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: months or something. I forgot how much fun it is

1973
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 2: to talk to people in real life instead of in

1974
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 2: a room. I'm still gonna talk to people alone in

1975
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 2: a dark room.

1976
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: Don't worry.

1977
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 2: I'll still be doing that, but I might just start

1978
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 2: trying to do this once a week or every other

1979
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 2: week or something like that. So stay tuned. I hope

1980
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 2: you enjoyed it. Hit subscribe on YouTube or hit whatever

1981
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 2: on a podcast thing. Thanks for if and if you're

1982
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 2: listening to that, let me just from experience, I just

1983
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 2: here's if you're listening to this and you're in your

1984
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 2: underwear in your house alone, and you're like and you're

1985
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 2: going crazy. Just put on pants and go outside and

1986
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 2: you'll you'll be like, all right, that was half the battle. Okay,

1987
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 2: thanks for being here with me on this journey. I'm

1988
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: a gecko. I'm insane, and.

1989
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: Get off.

1990
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 2: Get off the computer. Okay, bye everyone, goodbye, see you later.

1991
01:24:59,520 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 3: Bye.

1992
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 7: Therapy. Get goes on the line, taking your phone calls

1993
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 7: every night.

1994
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 6: The repent goes through Its eye's

1995
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 7: Teaching you to houses of your life, but he's not

1996
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 7: really an expert.