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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's Almost Famous podcast. Yes, we're breaking down episode eight

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Speaker 2: of Joey's season of the Bachelor. It's hometown week. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's four women left, some twists, some turns. But to

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Speaker 2: get started, Ashley, you sent me a text that said

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Speaker 2: you were crying watching ash or Kelsey A's hometown date.

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Speaker 2: I didn't ask why because I want to stay curious

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Speaker 2: as a Zach tell us what hit you the most?

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Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, so much of it. Obviously, her talking

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Speaker 3: hit me the most. Was just like her talking to

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Speaker 3: her dad about the love that he had with her mom,

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Speaker 3: and then that moment where she said I think I

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Speaker 3: think I love him, and then her dad goes, I

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Speaker 3: love you, and it was just like I can't stop

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Speaker 3: dripping water from my eyes. It was just so sweet

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Speaker 3: and like, to me, there's just that well like he

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Speaker 3: looks at Kelsey differently than he looks at everyone else,

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Speaker 3: and he loved that family and that hometown more than

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Speaker 3: anything else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a really special hometown. There's a couple.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think all of these were special in

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Speaker 2: their own way. It was a good Hometown episode. It

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Speaker 2: was you know, there's something really cool about hometowns Ashley,

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Speaker 2: and you hear it from people who have been through it.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have all this emotion kind of building

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Speaker 2: up for weeks now, where you have talked about your family,

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Speaker 2: You've talked about maybe some of the harder parts of

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Speaker 2: your life, you talked about some of the better parts

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Speaker 2: of your life. You've talked about your family or your

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Speaker 2: close relationships a lot, and you start to miss them

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Speaker 2: because you're putting words to things you felt that maybe

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Speaker 2: you've never expressed, and everybody does it right. Hometown's at

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Speaker 2: this moment where you see everybody for the first time

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Speaker 2: and it just kind of all comes spewing out. I

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Speaker 2: also think that's why we see a lot of emotion

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Speaker 2: during emotions during Hometown week. I don't know Kelsey's relationship,

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Speaker 2: I don't know Daisy's relationship, I don't know Rachel's relationship,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know Maria's relationships outside of this episode

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Speaker 2: with their family and what they've told us this season.

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Speaker 2: But I will say oftentimes in life, we neglect, or

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Speaker 2: maybe we assume that people know how we feel about

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Speaker 2: them and I think every Hometown episode there's these moments

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Speaker 2: where we see somebody express something or communicate something to

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Speaker 2: somebody that it almost feels like it's maybe the first

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Speaker 2: time because they're able to articulate their feelings really well

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Speaker 2: because they've been thinking about it for a.

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Speaker 3: Long time and they've been going through Bachelor like emotional yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so kelsey A's or hometown date and this moment

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Speaker 2: with her father felt like that to me, where I'm

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Speaker 2: sure he knows that Kelsey loves him, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he knows that Kelsey loves her mom, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he knows all these things. But it did feel like

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Speaker 2: this like breakthrough moment kind of where they're gonna walk

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Speaker 2: a really cool thing about these dates, And for me,

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Speaker 2: it's a really fun part of these dates is just

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Speaker 2: how you feel about me, I know how much you

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Speaker 2: respect me. And that's maybe what made me emotional watching

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Speaker 2: Kelsey's date was just like the fact that her dad

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Speaker 2: had those words said to him from his daughter and

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Speaker 2: then his daughter was able to express those words to

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Speaker 2: her dad. So she'll never doubt that I tell that

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Speaker 2: enough how much I loved them or how much I

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about when she said to him, I feel

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Speaker 3: I am in love with Joey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Like you mean the way that she was

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Speaker 3: able to express that to her debt of.

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Speaker 2: It the whole thing, the whole thing, like the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Also, So there was something about the dad's warmth and

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Speaker 3: openness towards Joey that I really appreciated because you guys know,

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Speaker 3: after listening to this podcast for so many years that

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Speaker 3: like sometimes I'm like, oh, the story the whole like

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Speaker 3: because again maybe it's just like something that I can't

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Speaker 3: And I like the way that this man just sat

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Speaker 3: like she's gonna make it through. And then we saw,

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Speaker 3: of course, are the other families, particularly with Rachel's, it

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Speaker 3: was just like, I don't even know if I wanted

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Speaker 3: to go through with this because possible heartbreak, but you know,

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Speaker 3: like possible heartbreak, but in the end, isn't it worth

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Speaker 2: Well, let's then go to Rachel's because Rachel's hometown date

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Speaker 2: was the next day Kelsey's. A hometown date was a

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Speaker 2: just a beautiful time during this episode, and really, when

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Speaker 2: it comes to this whole season, it made a lot

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Speaker 2: of sense that the two of them would continue on

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Speaker 2: past this week. And I agree with you, it did

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Speaker 2: feel like there was just a lot of love in

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Speaker 2: the room, a lot of support in the room. Rachel's

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Speaker 2: hometown date was similar in a lot of ways. It

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Speaker 2: was really fun, There's a lot of good aspects to it,

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Speaker 2: but it did feel and Rachel even assumed that it

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Speaker 2: through this hometown date than the others. My big question here,

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Speaker 2: I don't think there. I mean, this was not a

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Speaker 2: hometown date that will stand out in the history of

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Speaker 2: hometown dates as a bad one. Right, this wasn't so tough. No,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't as tough as some of the others. I

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Speaker 2: just do wonder when your daughter chooses, an adult daughter

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Speaker 2: that she will be coming to the hometown dates at

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Speaker 2: some point because that means that she's around and that

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Speaker 2: love's still, you know, in the air, and there's a

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Speaker 2: potential you know, partnership that could be done. So you

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Speaker 2: hope for this moment, but also you support your daughter's

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Speaker 2: decision to do the show, like, you know what the

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Speaker 2: if you're going to be really against the idea that

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Speaker 2: I feel like that should have been a conversation way

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Speaker 3: I think she probably had the conversation and then they're

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Speaker 3: just like the mom was super warm and welcoming when

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Speaker 3: having a blast, and then the mom just got really

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Speaker 3: a lot of it has to do with the ex fiance. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they just seem like they were probably really close

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Speaker 2: We've always given credit to the families on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: It is hard. It's got to be weird. You almost

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Speaker 2: just got to, like, I feel like, suck it up

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Speaker 2: and go through the motions until the date's done. Because one,

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Speaker 2: there's no convincing probably the person that's on the show,

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Speaker 3: Nobody's been convinced out of the relationship because of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just feels like it does when you

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Speaker 2: It does feel like it it puts a cloud over

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Speaker 2: whoever the bachelor or bachelorette just feel a little bit weary.

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Speaker 2: Rachel's hometown date, compared to the others, did feel like

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Speaker 2: there was nothing that the dad said that I don't

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Speaker 2: me at the end. I think that's great. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: You know, even though it was emotional, it was like

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Speaker 2: it was really great to gather the Daisy hometown, which

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Speaker 2: we'll get to next here, you know, obviously was a

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Speaker 2: have to understand Daisy a little bit more. I'll be honest.

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Speaker 2: At this point in the episode, actually I thought Rachel

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can. Yeah, he probably got in that car

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Speaker 3: and probably had similar thoughts. He probably thought, Okay, well

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Speaker 3: know where these dates really fell in order of each other.

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Speaker 3: We saw that with her. I feel like almost everybody

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Speaker 3: get that vibe? Yeah, definitely seems like they were all

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Speaker 3: like little rental homes. And they said with Rachel that

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Speaker 3: So it seemed like they were at her aunt's house.

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Speaker 3: And what was weird about this date is that there

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Speaker 3: was no there was no date date portion shown. There

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they did, but I just don't think that

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Speaker 2: I actually think the like kind of the party outside.

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Speaker 3: I think that was like their day date portion.

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Speaker 2: I think so interesting.

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Speaker 3: Okay. And then another thing of notes is that we

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Speaker 3: only saw Joey asked Rachel's dad and then Maria's dad

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Speaker 3: those were two that I thought were on the cusp

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Speaker 3: in this episode. Happens every time I probably asked all

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think this is like necessarily even like

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Speaker 2: producer manipulation, you ask off four, you know you want

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Speaker 2: to because you don't know how this is gonna end

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Speaker 2: at this point. You might have an idea, but you

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Speaker 2: don't really know. And they had a responses that we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about. The Others might have just been like, hey,

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Speaker 2: go for it. Like yeah, I mean we did kind of,

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Speaker 2: you know, we saw it, Maria. I think we saw

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Speaker 3: Did he maybe he referred to it in a different way.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we kind of did. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: I don't. I think it was gone before before that

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Speaker 2: Sure, but it's just not fun, Like there is no

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Speaker 3: His eyes to me said I want you to say it.

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Speaker 2: I think his eyes are saying, don't say it.

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Speaker 3: Don't say Because then when she didn't say it, I

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Speaker 2: I think he's probably he might have been annoyed, confused,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's tired. And so, you know, any more kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting as we continue to get more

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Speaker 3: Don't you love the airport hanger moment? This is my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, Rachel was not happy. It did show

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I enjoyed it. It was real.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bad I just think it's

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Speaker 2: How could you do? She was just like, what are

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Speaker 2: Her stomach was enoughs Yeah, yeah, yeah, her stomach was

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Speaker 2: Here's the one thing about Joey. I don't understand why

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Speaker 2: he hasn't done it yet. I think he's been a

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Speaker 2: fantastic Bachelors that's not a shock. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: when he's with these women in these moments where they're

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Speaker 2: expressing their feelings for each other, why he doesn't say hey,

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Speaker 2: I mean he had the space for it. You know,

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Speaker 2: he mentions all of them now know his his biggest

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Speaker 2: fears that he'll be left. That's the alter why he

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Speaker 2: doesn't ask the question to them, Hey, if it is

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Speaker 2: you at the end, would like where would you stand?

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Speaker 2: Like like would you say yes to this? And he

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Speaker 2: doesn't ask that question at least we haven't seen it yet,

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Speaker 2: but I think it would give him some reassurance that no,

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Speaker 2: these women aren't leaving him.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he'll do it now, Maybe he'll do it in

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Speaker 3: the fantasy suites.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you should he should do it all you and Stu, Well,

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Speaker 2: the mics are off and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we always have these blank spaces after

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Suite. It's like what was said in there that

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Speaker 3: didn't make any sense to us audience members. Yeah, speaking

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Speaker 3: of moments that didn't make sense to audience members, and

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Speaker 3: the Leslie switch, we all remember Leslie going into the

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Speaker 3: Fantasy suite as like Gary's rount runner. Well, she's back

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Speaker 3: and she seems to be mentoring Kelsey. And we have

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Speaker 3: a couple of the other Golden ladies coming back to

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Speaker 3: you know, give advice to the girls they are milking

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Speaker 3: the Golden Bachelor cast as much as they possibly can,

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Speaker 3: and it's it's very cute. So we shall see how

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Speaker 3: next week unfolds. You guys know, this is like my

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Speaker 3: very favorite part of this Hometown's and on so so good.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait for the drama.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh. I did stop in and see Joey this

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Speaker 2: week during the filming of this season.

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Speaker 3: Oh you mean this coming week? You was?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for hometown week. I was there to talk to week.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you were at hometown week. You were supposed to

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Speaker 3: be seen before the airport hangar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but so I did get a little sneak peek

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Speaker 2: into where his mind was at, into kind of what

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Speaker 2: he was thinking. I will say this, at that point

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Speaker 2: in time, I left that conversation knowing he was going

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Speaker 2: to be a great bachelor, also knowing that this has

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Speaker 2: been really hard for him emotionally, and very curious to

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Speaker 2: see how it ends up.

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Speaker 3: Well, he had to tell you that there was did

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Speaker 3: he give you names? Did you did? Did you leave

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Speaker 3: knowing in your mind not because he actually said somebody's name?

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Speaker 3: Did you leave in your mind knowing he was going

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Speaker 3: to pick.

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Speaker 2: At the end? No, this this week, Yes, it was

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Speaker 2: a shock to me what happened.

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Speaker 3: At the end of this past episode, like as in

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Speaker 3: like hometown episodes, you were shocked? Did you thought he

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Speaker 3: was going to keep Maria around?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Interesting?

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Speaker 2: I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: That's so interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm really terrible television because I've done three

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Speaker 2: different filmings with the show now, none of No. Four,

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Speaker 2: and none of them have aired. I am a dud,

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Speaker 2: like they bring me in too. Literally, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what my role is there to fill space, to like

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Speaker 2: do entertainment. I don't know what it is. But I

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Speaker 2: watch and I go I think this is when I

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Speaker 2: was there? Oh maybe not? Then why this?

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Speaker 3: Obviously obviously you're fantastic TV, but this has happened a

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Speaker 3: lot in the past year for you, and you take

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Speaker 3: time and you fly to La for you stay overnight

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Speaker 3: for two nights, and then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for Joey, I would do it. I'm happy. I

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Speaker 2: was happy to do it. For Gary, happy to do it.

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Speaker 2: Not even a problem, not even an issue. I was

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Speaker 2: happy to do it. I still am. I look at

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Speaker 2: it and go, hey, I don't you know what. Honestly

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Speaker 2: at this point it's not that big a deal. But

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Speaker 2: I will say I left that conversation going, this is

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Speaker 2: gonna be a good season, and it has been. And

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Speaker 2: we'll be back next week breaking down another episode uh

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Speaker 2: Bachelor Fantasy suitets. Next week, we'll be breaking it down

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Speaker 2: right here on the listening to this podcast. So until

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Speaker 2: next time, I've been Ben, I've Been Ashley.

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