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Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome back to on Purpose. Today's Guest is

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Speaker 2: one of our most popular episodes ever, even though we

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Speaker 2: the studio. I'm speaking about the one, the only. Priyanka

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Speaker 2: Choprah Jonas an award winning global actor, producer and entrepreneur

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Speaker 2: who is led at the highest levels of both Bollywood

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Speaker 2: and Hollywood. With over sixty films to her name, multiple

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Speaker 2: film for awards, and recognition on Time one hundred's Most

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Speaker 2: Influential People list, She's become one of the most influential

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Speaker 2: artists in entertainment. Priyanka's knew movie, The Bluff and nineteenth

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Speaker 2: century pirate action thriller, is out now on Amazon Prime Video.

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Speaker 2: You won't want to miss this. When I promise you

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Speaker 2: please welcome Prianka chop Jonas, it's great to have you here.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that intro is like, I was so tight you

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Speaker 2: What were you feeling? What goes through your head when

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Speaker 1: It's fine if it's like written about or it's at

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Speaker 2: Oh well with that. I think that's that's a sign

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Speaker 2: of your good character. But I wanted to add to

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Speaker 2: Like I literally felt. I was like, you're making sure

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Speaker 2: And so thank you for being as kind off screen

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Speaker 2: And It's been a gift getting to know you. And

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Speaker 1: You know, we were house proud. We like, we've always

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Speaker 1: And it's such a privilege, like you have to work

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Speaker 1: just I think focusing on the future and the present

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Speaker 1: is just a way of kind of letting go of

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Speaker 1: that control.

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Speaker 2: This episode is brought to you by eBay. Music has

436
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Speaker 2: always been one of my teachers. There was a vinyl

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Speaker 2: record I used to play during a quiet, very four

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Speaker 2: season of my life, late nights, no distractions, just me,

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Speaker 2: the music and my thoughts. I'd sit still, let the

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Speaker 2: needle drop and really listen, not just to the sound,

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Speaker 2: but to what was coming up inside me. That record

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Speaker 2: wasn't background noise. It was intentional. It created space. It

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Speaker 2: helped me slow down in a world that constantly asked

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Speaker 2: me to move faster. Over time, life changed, schedules filled up,

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Speaker 2: the stillness became harder to protect, and somewhere along the way,

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Speaker 2: that record disappeared. I didn't notice right away, but I

447
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Speaker 2: felt the absence of what it represented. Recently, I realized

448
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Speaker 2: I wasn't missing the music. I was missing the ritual,

449
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Speaker 2: the act of pausing, of being present, of listening deeply

450
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Speaker 2: to myself. So I searched for that same vinyl, same version,

451
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Speaker 2: the same cover, and I found it on eBay. When

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Speaker 2: it arrived, I didn't play immediately. I just thought back

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Speaker 2: to that moment, and after that I couldn't wait to listen.

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Speaker 2: And when I I finally did, the music was the same,

455
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Speaker 2: but I wasn't. I heard it differently. I understood it differently,

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Speaker 2: And that's when it really hit me. The things we

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Speaker 2: keep don't lock us into the past. They meet us

458
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Speaker 2: where we are now. Objects can evolve us. They can

459
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Speaker 2: remind us of practices we want to return to, or

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Speaker 2: values we don't want to lose so versions of ourselves

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Speaker 2: that still matter. That's what I love about eBay. It's

462
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Speaker 2: not just about buying things, It's about rediscovering meaning, about

463
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Speaker 2: one person passing something on and another person finding exactly

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Speaker 2: what they didn't realize they were looking for. eBay is

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Speaker 2: also a place where you can let go of items

466
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Speaker 2: that are no longer serving you or that you no

467
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Speaker 2: longer need. You can give items a new life, a

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Speaker 2: new story with someone else. Visit eBay dot com to

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Speaker 2: shop your favorite finds, find what you love, sell what

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Speaker 2: you don't. eBay things people love. I feel like so

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00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: many of us as humans, when we discover a new

472
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: way of living, we almost disregard shun exactly the past

473
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Speaker 2: way of being, and so we're like, oh, now I

474
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Speaker 2: figured out life. Yeah, now I'm at peace. And it's

475
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Speaker 2: almost like, wait a minute, you're forgetting the part that

476
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Speaker 2: that kid at twenty years old as yourself you're talking

477
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Speaker 2: about needed to have that pravado, that holding on tight,

478
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Speaker 2: that ambition that r to get here. And I love

479
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: what you're saying because I think that's really the work

480
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: that we're all trying to do, is accept that all

481
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Speaker 2: these versions of us were just trying the best with

482
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Speaker 2: what they know. Yeah, and now that we know better,

483
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Speaker 2: we can do differently and do better, but that it's

484
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Speaker 2: not a judgment or a shunning of that version of ourselves.

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Speaker 1: And as we grow in life, we're going to keep

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Speaker 1: changing like evolution. Hopefully yeah, hopefully yeah, And even if

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Speaker 1: we don't, that's fine. That's your individual journey, you know.

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Speaker 1: And But like Nick new song, it was so profound

489
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Speaker 1: to me gut punch, because that's what it really talks about,

490
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: is when did I get so good at being mean

491
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Speaker 1: to myself?

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00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: Right?

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00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: And we all do, and if we you catch yourself

494
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Speaker 1: on the couple of things which actually helped me. One,

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Speaker 1: is this a constructive thought? It's when I'm going down

496
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole of anything, stress, fear, anxiety, anything, is

497
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: it a constructive thought? Will it get me somewhere? And

498
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: if it's not, it's not meant to be in your head?

499
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: And the second thing which has really helped me is

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Speaker 1: thoughts are not facts. So when you're spiraling about something,

501
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: or anxious about something, or berating yourself for having done

502
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: something wrong, you to kind of come back to the facts, like,

503
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: what are the facts that I know and then it

504
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: just takes away the power. Yeah, those are tools that

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Speaker 1: have really, I think helped me in this new phase.

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Speaker 2: I love the pH Yeah, I love those tools. Yeah,

507
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Speaker 2: especially that second one, because I feel like the mind

508
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: is not a truth seeker. It's a storyteller. Absurdly, it

509
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: will make up a story and it will create it

510
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: and it will believe it. Yeah, and we'll plaster it.

511
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Speaker 2: It's the biggest fake news in the world. Is the

512
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Speaker 2: mind doing its thing, And like you just start to

513
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Speaker 2: believe whatever news story.

514
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Speaker 1: Is actually if we don't talk about it, which most

515
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: of us are trained to not do, right, Like we've

516
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Speaker 1: got to be tough, We've got to like at least

517
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Speaker 1: when I was growing up, there was no importance to

518
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: therapy or constructive conversation. Even within family. It was like

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00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: you're stronger than that, you don't have to feel that way,

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00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: like almost dismissive of actual feelings. And not just my parents,

521
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: that was just the culture of how it was. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's a wonderful thing that we've come

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Speaker 1: to a place where we can actually talk about our feelings.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the more you keep it in, the

525
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Speaker 1: more you're not allowed to talk about how you or feeling,

526
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: which is totally different than how you should be behaving

527
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: or what you should be doing in a situation, completely

528
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: different thing. How you're feeling is so crucial to acknowledge

529
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: and then it's easier to kind of move on. But

530
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: the initial validation you need is I am upset about something,

531
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Speaker 1: and it's okay whatever that might stem from. I might

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Speaker 1: be feeling jealous, I might feel angry that this didn't

533
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: happen for me or whatever it was, or but it's

534
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: okay to acknowledge that feeling. And I find it really

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Speaker 1: beneficial to talk to like my best friend or my

536
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: husband or someone. This is also a nick Jonas learning

537
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: actually gone, oh man, I just realized. Early into our marriage,

538
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Speaker 1: we had you know, argument that everyone does when you're

539
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: just getting to know each other newly married, and we

540
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Speaker 1: had an argument and being the person that I am,

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Speaker 1: you know, and the storm in Nix's teacup, that's how

542
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Speaker 1: we are, or at least we were. I don't know,

543
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: we're evolving, but I was like, well, we need to

544
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Speaker 1: approach it this way and you know, this is how

545
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: it gets better and solutions and solutions, and he was like, well,

546
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Speaker 1: we need to talk about how we're feeling, and those

547
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: were completely two different things, and I didn't know how

548
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Speaker 1: to do that or like the fact that I needed

549
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: to do that, And he was like, let's talk about

550
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Speaker 1: how I'm feeling, how you're feeling, and then we'll be

551
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Speaker 1: able to move on to a solution, which was so

552
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Speaker 1: mind blowing to me at that time and profound honestly,

553
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: and it just changed the way the direction of the conversation.

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Speaker 1: It just it's so healthy to be able to acknowledge,

555
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, this made me feel this way and

556
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: the same honest truths. So then you're like, oh, my gosh,

557
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: if something I said made someone feel a certain way,

558
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: how do I feel about doing that to a loved one?

559
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: You know, like if a certain behavior from me or

560
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: a certain behavior from you just makes me feel not nice,

561
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: will you keep doing it again? Knowing that? So it

562
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: was such a big like learning for both of us.

563
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: And you know, we've never gone back to the storm

564
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: and the teacup.

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Speaker 2: Rather than I will still, I mean, rather than I've

566
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: been together for thirteen years now, it's our ten your

567
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: wedding anniversary this year decades super exciting and at the

568
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: same time, my point is, of course we still have

569
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Speaker 2: stupid of course all the time. We've just built tools

570
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 2: and techniques over the years that have worked for us

571
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: and everything that's you know that everyone's dealing with what

572
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: gave you, because I find this to be one of

573
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Speaker 2: the biggest things, at least for me and Rady that

574
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Speaker 2: I think has been beneficial. What gave you the humility

575
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Speaker 2: to be able to learn that from Nick? Right, Because

576
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: I think in a relationships it's kind of like, well,

577
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: you want to do it that way, but this is

578
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: the way I do it. So like you're saying, hey,

579
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Speaker 2: I wanted to watch Solutions.

580
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: I was like that. It happened for a few a

581
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Speaker 1: few times and we argued where I was like this

582
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: is who I am, and like this is what I

583
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: know and it has worked for me. But I think

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Speaker 1: I heard him maybe for the first time, and I

585
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: don't know what. Maybe I wasn't hearing him. I was

586
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: focused so much on what I was feeling that I

587
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: couldn't listen to what he was feeling. And over time,

588
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: maybe you know, my husband is and I've said this

589
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: so many times, a most sincere, honest person, and that

590
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: just disarms you. So when he looks at you with

591
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: those eyes and says, let's talk about how we're feeling.

592
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about how we're feeling.

593
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has that deep press He just.

594
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Speaker 1: Like the room calms down, and it just that he

595
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: just takes you in that the direction that he wants to.

596
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: And that's the first thing actually that drew me to

597
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: Nick when we first met is he has this quiet

598
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: confidence which makes him like a natural leader. You know,

599
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: you kind of want to listen to him and hear

600
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Speaker 1: him out and know that you know, he has thought

601
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: about things and he's not impulsive and he's decisive, but

602
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: it's just this quiet confidence. It doesn't need, you know,

603
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: to be put on display. And that was just beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

605
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: I mean that takes a lot from you to notice

606
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Speaker 2: that as well, because sometimes I think quiet confidence is missed. Yes,

607
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: because it's quiet as in it it doesn't have that

608
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: flashy it doesn't feel like, it doesn't look like leadership

609
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: in the old way. It's been propagated across the world

610
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: and then it's easy to miss. It's also credit to

611
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: you to be able to you know, at the time,

612
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: to be able to notice that and see the value

613
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: of it. I felt the value of it. When I've

614
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,479
Speaker 2: been around him and had conversations with him, and.

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Speaker 1: It's always been something that has it's been something I

616
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: have seeked, it's been something that I have always been

617
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: drawn to. And again, you know, it's different phases, different

618
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: you have to be different kinds of confidence. There are

619
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: times where you need to be a peacock or a porcupine.

620
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's fine.

621
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Speaker 2: I like that.

622
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can be either, or you've got to you know,

623
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: show it off a little bit. And then there are

624
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: times you don't. It's really up to us to figure

625
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: out when you know how much you need to turn

626
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: it up and how much you need to turn it down.

627
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: But the fact that you can turn it down, that

628
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: is something like a lot of people don't know and use.

629
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Speaker 1: You know, confidence doesn't always have to be loud. It

630
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: doesn't always have to scream. It just arrives. And that's

631
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: the best type.

632
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, I mean obviously he will

633
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Speaker 2: have that.

634
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: You also have that like quiet confidence.

635
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Speaker 2: Thank you. That's very sweet. That's very kind of you. Yeah.

636
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Speaker 2: I found it really fascinating is when I first came

637
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: here and I don't I don't like this term that

638
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: people would aways be like, oh, you do motivational speaking,

639
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: which I don't consider myself to do because I would

640
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: think about all the motivational speakers that have come before,

641
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: and they're like loud, they're big, they're like and I'm like,

642
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: I'm just a literati guy, you know, Like, I'm like,

643
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 2: that's not my that's not my presence. And I don't

644
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's the only way to be powerful.

645
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 2: It's a way and I fine, me move people. It's powerful, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And and I love what you're saying that it can

647
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Speaker 2: be done quietly. But it's I find it fascinating that

648
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: you are seeking that because I think right now, when

649
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: we think about dating in the modern world, when we

650
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: think about whether it's marriage, any sort of committed monogamous relationship,

651
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 2: I think what women and men are looking for sometimes

652
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: so confused because there's so many versions of what confidence,

653
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: strength attracted and what could be right for you correct

654
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: and what's right for you. But you knew that was

655
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 2: right for you because there was something that was guiding

656
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: you to that was that intuition? Was it?

657
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: It happened so quick, like it was so quick, and

658
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: I wondered for the first like year. I was like,

659
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: what was it, because I'm not wanting to jump in

660
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: full commitment. Six months since we first met. We not

661
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: first met like when out on our first date. We

662
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: were married, like we were engaged in like two months

663
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: or something.

664
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

665
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: It was so quick, but there was no part of

666
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: me that could say no. I was so drawn and

667
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: compelled by him, and I think that was the one

668
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: of those things was his natural leadership and that come

669
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: from his quiet confidence, like he would just hold my

670
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: hand and I felt the need to follow him. I'm

671
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: I'm usually the.

672
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: Person showing people the way.

673
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: You know, So it was just very attractive to me

674
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: to be with someone that is so decisive and start

675
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: afraid to show it. Yeah, and doesn't need to scream

676
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: off the rooftops. Like what Nick says he can say

677
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: to you on this microphone, he can say at home.

678
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: He's just like that's who he is. And that was

679
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: very new to me and disarming and charming at the

680
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 1: same time.

681
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: I love the way you both speak about each other,

682
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: like this is so special. I'm like, I'm literally gonna

683
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: gonna get the two clips of you both talking about

684
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: each other and putting next to it because it No,

685
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: it's wonderful. It's it's so wonderful because it's real. It's

686
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: not easy. Like I said, it requires a lot of humility.

687
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: Even as what you just said, I'm used to being

688
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: the leader. I'm used to showing the way that I

689
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: I'm really happy to let someone else lead sometimes.

690
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: That's what every girl wants is to be with a

691
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: man competent enough that you will trust them to guide

692
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: you in the right place. Because usually, you know, women

693
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: are really good at figuring out and navigating through problems.

694
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: But like Nick has this innate wisdom that I trust

695
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: and that I've always trusted. His honesty, I have like trusted,

696
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: and I think that was one of the first things

697
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: that I was like, Yes, you will be great for life.

698
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: That's that's it. That's amazing, that's so good.

699
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 2: And I loved I saw your congrats on the Variety

700
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: covers amazing and I read I read the piece before

701
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: as I was preparing for this, and I just loved

702
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: how you said in the article. You were like I

703
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: just because when I hear you both, when I've spent

704
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: time with you both, I've been to your house, you know,

705
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: spend time with you over the years at different events.

706
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: You see that love. You see the way you communicate,

707
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: you see it even when I'm speaking to you both here,

708
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 2: there's so much genuineness. And then naturally you talked abound

709
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: the variety, cover with the you know, the negativity that

710
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: naturally comes with having a relationship in the public eye.

711
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: And I love that you said, You're like, I just

712
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: don't think about it anymore because we've been together for

713
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 2: eight years. It's like, you know, this stuff doesn't matter

714
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 2: almost anymore. How hard was it to get to that

715
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: point to be able to be like, you know what now,

716
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: I'm you know, we've always been good, We're fine, But

717
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: how long did it take fee to feel I'm not

718
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: even letting that get to me anymore?

719
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard. I still, like, will read a

720
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: comment here or there and I'm like, why, Like what

721
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: did I do to you?

722
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

723
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: Why?

724
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: Why is it? Why be so mean? Like I don't

725
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: even know You've never met you, You've seen like some

726
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: aspects of my life and decided I might be this

727
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: horrible person or we're not right to get like why?

728
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: So it's still sometimes in weak moments will get me,

729
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: like so many other things, mean things do. But in general,

730
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: I think I'm just in a place where I want

731
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: to focus on the good in my life, and I

732
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: feel really blessed to have the good that I do.

733
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: It's not been an easy journey, and to be in

734
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: a place where you know, you come out of a

735
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: storm and the sun is shining and you just kind

736
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: of like take that moment and I feel like in

737
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: that moment right.

738
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, we did. We did. Like me and RADI

739
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: don't obviously have nearly the amount of Bibles that you

740
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: guys have on us, but we went through this really

741
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: interesting period where we'd been together every day during the pandemic,

742
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: and as soon as the pandemic was over, RADI was

743
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 2: so excited to go back home and see her family,

744
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: as so many Yeah. Sure, And so Raley was spending

745
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: a lot of time in London after the pandemic because

746
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: she just missed her family. She missed her parents and

747
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: I did too. But I have work here, I have

748
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: my team here, I've set up a life here, and

749
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: I go back and forth, but not as often as

750
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: she likes to. And it was really fascinating because I

751
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: get a call from my publicist one day she goes, yeah,

752
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: I just got a call from this major publication and

753
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: they've just been reading on the dark web. It's like,

754
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 2: what is the dark web? They're like, I've been reading

755
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: on the dark web that people are thinking that you

756
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: and Radi are about to, you know, break up, and

757
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: like you're not together anymore, and that the pictures that

758
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: you're posting are old and all this stuff. And I

759
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: was like, we're in a really good place, like we're

760
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: totally happy. Actually, the pandemic was amazing for us because

761
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: we spent every day together and fell more in love

762
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: with each other, which was such a blessing to have that.

763
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: And then we've always had this communication, me and Radi

764
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: where London is such an important part of her identity,

765
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: our family, our niece and nephew, and so we've always

766
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: tried to live this la London life as much as

767
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: we can. It's not easy at all, So Rady we'll

768
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: go back a lot more often. I'll run in and

769
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: out whenever I can. And it was just fascinating to

770
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: me that like that was even being talked about, and

771
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: she was like, yeah, there's loads of people just wondering

772
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: whether you guys are still together, still in love, whatever,

773
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: And it was just such a and I remember in

774
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 2: the conversation with Radley and laughing at it, obviously because

775
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: we know what we're doing, but I was like, wow,

776
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 2: like where do where do people even invent this stuff?

777
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: And then how does it go from we're living in

778
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: different countries during a certain period of time with context,

779
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: but you take that to be we don't love each

780
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: other anymore, don't want to be together, And I was

781
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: like wow, like and like I said, it's nowhere near

782
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: compared to the eyeballs that you and Nick hant. So

783
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: it's just such a fascinating and I struggled with them.

784
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: Radiy struggled with it where she got to the point

785
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 2: where she was like, you know what, I don't want

786
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: to talk about our relationship publicly anymore. Like that's what

787
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: she got to She was like, I just don't want

788
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 2: to talk about it because I don't like all these

789
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: opinions and I don't you know, it really affected her.

790
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: I have a couple of thoughts on how I kind

791
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: of navigated it.

792
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

793
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: One is we're living in a time in a period

794
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: where we get to see and read the opinions that

795
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: people have of us, right like before social media back

796
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: in the day using the Aunties, weren't talking in the kitchen.

797
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: Everyone was talking, definitely. That's everyone's talking about everything. We

798
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: just didn't hear about it. Absolutely, So nothing's really changed.

799
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: It's just how much information we are absorbing. So take

800
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: that power away that this is all the same people

801
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: that would have talked about you, guys, even forty years

802
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: ago if you were in the position that you're in.

803
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: That's kind of the gig. When you become a public person,

804
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: people will have an opinion on you. So protect your

805
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: sanity by understanding that this comes with the job, it

806
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: comes with the territory, right, So that's one. Of course,

807
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: it can still affect you and you know, hurt because

808
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: it comes across your timeline and you're like why, like

809
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: what's the need of it. The second thing that I

810
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: really strongly believe it's no one's business honestly, and that's okay,

811
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: Like you share as much as you need to and

812
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: what feels right. And even within our families, right like

813
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: if you're going for especially Indian families, everyone's in your business.

814
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to know all the things. But even there,

815
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: I believe that if it's not your business, I don't

816
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: need to tell you and so protect protecting ourselves from

817
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: the cacophony of opinions is really important. And that's just

818
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: by like you've got to do the self talk and

819
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: be like do I want to react to this? Is

820
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: this a constructive thought?

821
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: Like just questions?

822
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to nip it in the butt and

823
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: be like, that's not something I need to waste my

824
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: time on.

825
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think me and Rady made a pact early

826
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 2: where even with the family piece, it was like we

827
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: solve our problems together. Yeah, exactly if we need to

828
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: communicate with either of our parents, you communicate with your parents,

829
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: I communicate with mine, because that's the open line of

830
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: communication that is, It'll be.

831
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 1: Honest and exactly, it'll be you know, it'll be real. Yeah,

832
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: whatever your version of that is is I think like

833
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: just the public scrutiny and it's for everyone now, like

834
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: their comments on everyone's socials, right, Like, not just people

835
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: who are in the public like content creators. It's anyone

836
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: who's out there you have comments. So it's not just

837
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: a problem of public people anymore. That's just the nature

838
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: of the world we're living in. So for everyone who

839
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: gets mean comments on your comments or on your Instagram

840
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: or TikTok or whatever, like really recognizing and maybe young

841
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: people don't even remember this, but like people always talked,

842
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: there's a Hindi song logunka he kennagunk he ken, which

843
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: means people have to say something, so they're constantly going

844
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: to say something, and that's just human beings. So like

845
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: just a pinch of salt sometimes is important. While reading

846
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: that stuff.

847
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well said good advice, I was thinking, I want

848
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: to shift gears because I know we can talk about

849
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 2: Nick the whole whole podcast. So we'll get back. We'll

850
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: go back. No, no, no, we'll get back. He did. He

851
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: did the same, So it's fine, we'll get we'll get

852
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: back to Nick. And I want to talk about family

853
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: as well. But I want to shift gears to something

854
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: you said earlier. You said to me that actually this

855
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: is the first time where you're actually using agency to

856
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: be in the choice of what speed you're moving at.

857
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: And before there was almost this pivot that felt pushed

858
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: on you or just felt like the way you had

859
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: to go. And I was reading online about a there

860
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 2: was a director in Bollywood. He was saying that Priyanka

861
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: was treated badly. She was like she was treated badly

862
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: in Bollywood. We pushed her out, was was his language,

863
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know how that feels

864
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: when when you're at the top, when you've won, like

865
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: you're one of the most iconic people we've ever had

866
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: in the industry in Bollywood without a doubt, like celebrated,

867
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 2: done every major movie, worked with, you know, every major director,

868
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: every major person in the industry. To me, it looked

869
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 2: like a win. But that's what people are almost coming

870
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: out and confessing and feeling like, no, we treated about it,

871
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: we pushed her out. How do you feel about that

872
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: when you hear that.

873
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: I have like conflicting thoughts with all of that, because

874
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: I feel like surviving in the movie industry is stuff

875
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: for everyone. It's not an easy place. It's political, it's networking,

876
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: it's you know, moment driven. If it's the moment you're

877
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: the man at the moment or the woman at the moment,

878
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: and then the moment's gone at somebody else's moment, so

879
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: it's fleeting. So I am pragmatic enough to recognize that.

880
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody has their struggles because of their choices.

881
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: I did feel like I was in a place where

882
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: I felt cornered, where work was limited, and in order

883
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: to survive emotionally, mentally, physically, I just needed to move.

884
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: And that's always been my answer. I'm not someone who

885
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: stays stagnant. I need movement to solve my problems. And

886
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: this time it just happened to be across continents, you know,

887
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: the hardest thing, completely move, like completely actually. But I

888
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: was talking to you about the universe, right, So I

889
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: was in this place where I was doing I was

890
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: doing good work, but I kind of didn't see myself.

891
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: Like I told you, I look five seconds ahead of me.

892
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, always thinking ahead is my nature. So I

893
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: just didn't see longevity the way I wanted it in

894
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: my situation at that time. And I'm honest about who

895
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: I am, so you know, I was never afraid of

896
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: living my truth. But that's what it ended up being.

897
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: I felt cornered. And Angula, who's our common friend, who's

898
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: for people who don't know now, my manager. But at

899
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: that time she ran Daisy Hits, which was a joint

900
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: venture with Inner Scope Records, which you know, shone the

901
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: light on Indian artists and South Asian artists and brought

902
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: them over to America and she saw an old movie

903
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: of mine at her mom's house. It was called bluff Master,

904
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: and she was like working with Jimmy I ween. At

905
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: that time, they had just done the Pussycat Dolls version

906
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: of JA Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was like that,

907
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, just cross pollination. I like to use that

908
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: word of cultures within music that was happening. And she

909
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: reached out to me. You know, I heard you can sing.

910
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean that's I can carry a tune with a

911
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: little bit of help, but not like I used to

912
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I used to go to the studio sing

913
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: with my friends. You know how in Bollywood movies we

914
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: have music as a you know, we have a soundtrack

915
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: to every movie and that's usually recorded with you know,

916
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: with music producers, and so I used to go in

917
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: for those sessions just because I loved seeing how music

918
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: was made. And so sometimes I would take the mic

919
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: and just sing or whatever. So I had a few

920
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: songs out there floating around, and I don't know, she

921
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: got her hands on them and she was like, you know,

922
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: let's make you a pop star. And because I was

923
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: feeling it was like a the universe kind of just

924
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: timed itself together. I was feeling very limited in my

925
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: work in Hindi movies. I was feeling kind of like

926
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't have a direction to go on and this

927
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: was like an olive branch and I don't get starstruck,

928
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: but musicians like get me. Being able to be on

929
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: that stage and command with a live microphone so many

930
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: people is incredible to me. So I was us blown

931
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: away by, you know, being flown to London and then

932
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: from there being signed to Universal. From there coming to

933
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: la and you know, being in the studio with Will

934
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: I Am and Pitbull and just Chainsmokers and work with

935
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: Red One, and you know, I met the most incredible

936
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: people during this two year pop star era of mine.

937
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: Of such a welcome change. It was a breath of

938
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: fresh air. And this is behind the lens like what

939
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: I was feeling. I was feeling like I was drowning

940
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: and I was suddenly pulled out and wow, I could breathe.

941
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: And I didn't know if this would stick or not,

942
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: but I was just breathing, and wow, I was breathing

943
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: an excellent company. I was making music that I didn't

944
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: know how to make. But you know, there was faith

945
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 1: in something in me and I have to give credit

946
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: to both Angula and Jimmy Iveen for seeing something that

947
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: I didn't see. I was honestly just breathing at that point.

948
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm really happy to be given an opportunity to work

949
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: with some of these incredible artists that I had admired

950
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: for so long. I mean, I spent my thirtieth birthday

951
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: with Bono. How many people can say that, Like, it

952
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: was just so cool to be in that rarefied air

953
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: of just artists who make music the guitar and you know,

954
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: songs that come into their mind, and I was just

955
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: inspired and feeling a sense of being alive creatively and emotionally.

956
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: I lost my dad within that phase as well, which

957
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: was a really big hit for me. So it was

958
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: a tough like period of five six years, a lot

959
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: of change, a lot of full stops, you know, a

960
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: lot of leaving feelings and things behind and trying to

961
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: come out on the other side of it. And I

962
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: was alone because I had moved countries. That was extra

963
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: layer of tough. I didn't really have a lot of friends.

964
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: I have a lot of family in America, but everyone's

965
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: really busy with their lives. So between I was bicoastal

966
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: between LA and New York, and you know, hotel rooms

967
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: get lonely, and so I moved into an apartment and

968
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, I after the music phase was over, I

969
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: kind of was like, after four songs out there, I

970
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know this is you know, I'm

971
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: as good at hisself as I would like to. And

972
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: then Jimmy suggested that I find representation in acting, and

973
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: I did, and that's how it started. You know, I

974
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: got Quantico, which was after a bunch of auditions, which

975
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: was also one of my first auditions in like years.

976
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: Terrifying in itself the whole process because when I was

977
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: working in Bollywood had reached a point where you know,

978
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: people knew my work. So I didn't you know i'd

979
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: get direct office. I just, you know, the whole It's

980
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: so crazy that as actors we do this, and you know,

981
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: rejection is such a large part of part of it too.

982
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: But that first time when I walked into that audition

983
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: hall and there were all of these girls on a

984
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: chair and I realized they were all here for the

985
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: same part. That's a crazy feeling. And does everyone like

986
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: look similar? Is that the goal or like.

987
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: Or was that different because you're doing it.

988
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: It was different for that show because there were it

989
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: was written for an American girl that show, which I

990
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,479
Speaker 1: clearly wasn't. But I'm an actor, and I was like, yeah,

991
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: I can study an accent and I can. I went

992
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: to school here. I'm not on familiar with the States,

993
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: of course, so I, you know, worked on being American

994
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: because she was an FBI agent and you know, so

995
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: I worked a lot on that. I worked with acting coaches.

996
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: I really wanted to see if I was built for America. Yeah,

997
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: because it takes different years almost for anyone who's familiar

998
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: with you know, Bollywood and Hollywood. It's just the industries

999
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: are it's different. So the first few times for me,

1000
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: I spent like about six months in La. I was

1001
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: also finishing a movie back in India at that time

1002
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: called Baji Ramastani, So I was flying back and forth

1003
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: a lot, and I just was like, do I have

1004
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: what it takes first and foremost to do that, and

1005
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: which meant kind of erasing my accomplishments up until now.

1006
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: When I walked into a room and I was it

1007
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: took me a little bit of talking to myself to

1008
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: do that. I was like Okay, what are my choices.

1009
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: My choices are to do limited parts and see what

1010
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: that'll turn out to be, like to do music, which

1011
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: I kind of thought I was mediocre in, or to

1012
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: try and work in a completely new industry, which you

1013
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: know you have to.

1014
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 2: Start all the way at.

1015
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: The bottom again. And that's all right because the edge

1016
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: that I had is I was not new. So I

1017
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: knew my job. I knew what it's like to be

1018
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: on a big budget movie. I knew what it likes,

1019
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: what it's like to be the lead of a part,

1020
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: like to hold the attention on screen, to or even

1021
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: stand on your mark, say the lines, know where the

1022
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: lights are, like, I know the profession. I know my craft.

1023
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: So that's the edge that I had over you know,

1024
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: like someone newer who was coming into that space. And

1025
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: I think that's what really helped me is I focused

1026
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: on my craft. I focused on the job. I took

1027
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: away the noise of you know, well, you've done like

1028
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: fifty movies in India or even the cover of this magazine.

1029
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: Why should you like that thing that we do to ourselves,

1030
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: which is, you know, you can get in your own way.

1031
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: I choose to. I chose to get out of my way.

1032
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: Wow.

1033
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: And I don't know which part of my survival helped

1034
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: me do that. I really don't know. It was a

1035
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: really dark period in my life, you know, moving here,

1036
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: being alone, losing my dad, losing like friendships, and you know,

1037
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: my family. My mom was not here, nobody belonging, belonging

1038
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: in a rented apartment, not sure if I should live

1039
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: in New York or I live in Mumbai, living out

1040
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: of suitcases for a couple, like for many years. It

1041
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: was just tough. And I don't know. I was like,

1042
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: I need to get out of my way. I need

1043
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: something to give, I need something to work. And it

1044
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: was many, many years of trying to figure out what

1045
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: will stick where I just like put my head down.

1046
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: I was like, just do the work. I worked on

1047
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: my scenes. I went in for the audition, I got

1048
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: the job. I continued working on because that didn't mean

1049
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: that the show gets picked up if you just did

1050
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: the pilot. I continued working on like other things, you know,

1051
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: looking at movies, working with acting coaches, just learning scenes,

1052
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: learning how to speak in English language, not speak, but

1053
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: delivering dialogues in the English language. My brain was tuned

1054
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: to improvising in Hindi. I can do that because I'd

1055
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: done so much work in the Hindi language, so it

1056
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: was a pivot of my brain as well to be

1057
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: able to read sides in English and those lines. So

1058
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: I worked with a lot of acting coaches, so amazingly

1059
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: talented people both in New York and LA to kind

1060
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: of be able to get more comfortable with that. And yeah,

1061
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: I just decided to focus on the work and slowly

1062
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: picked up. And you know, it took a lot of

1063
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: like smaller parts figuring out, you know, where I land

1064
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: to now, you know, producing the movies that I work in.

1065
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: So it was a long journey emotionally traumatic in many

1066
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: ways personally for me. But I'm happy to be on

1067
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: the other side of it.

1068
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. I mean when you described that period of

1069
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: your life is drowning, yeah, and transitioning away from the

1070
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: industry and then finding air even in the newness of

1071
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: music and how that comes in, I mean that, and

1072
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: then adding on all the context you just gave us

1073
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: of how hard that time was, whether it's personally with

1074
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: your father, whether it's professional with new work, new industry,

1075
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: just not knowing anyone, just not knowing anyone. The loneliness

1076
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: that comes with it. I mean, it sounds like you

1077
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 2: put you said in your own words, it's a really

1078
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: dark time. It was tough, It felt really dark. But

1079
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: I think the fact that I could pull myself out

1080
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: of it with the help of you know, some amazing

1081
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: people that came into my life, like and like Jimmy,

1082
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: like Dana, my team in India, Natasha, like these are

1083
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: people that like really held me together at that time

1084
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: when I didn't have friends and family around me. And

1085
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: you know, we've all worked together now for fifteen to

1086
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: twenty years. But you know, I was very lucky to

1087
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: have had picked people around me that didn't let me

1088
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: feel the weight and the gravity of what it felt

1089
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: like to me, because it may not have been the reality,

1090
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: but it felt like.

1091
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: That to me. And now you know, I acknowledge feelings.

1092
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: So this is me acknowledging what I felt those twelve

1093
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: fourteen years ago when I might what are we in

1094
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, twenty ten, fifteen, sixteen years ago? But

1095
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: I felt like.

1096
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, well it's I think it's fascinating that we

1097
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: don't necessarily give people the credit they deserve when they're

1098
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: here with us and living on the planet, and you

1099
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: know that it's a right.

1100
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: I always think about that rights such an interesting human trade.

1101
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: I always think about that so much. And you know,

1102
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: I actually started thinking about it after my dad, honestly

1103
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: because it was such a personal loss for me and

1104
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: I there were so many people that came out for

1105
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: We called it it called it his celebration ceremony, but

1106
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: it's actually the chata, which happens on the fourth day

1107
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: after you lose someone in Hinduism, and so you give

1108
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: the family like four days to more than fourth day,

1109
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, everyone else can start coming in to give

1110
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: their wishes. And there were so many people that celebrated

1111
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: my father and spoke so highly of him, and I

1112
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: was like, why didn't you say that to him when

1113
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: he was here. He would have loved to hear that.

1114
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: And I have started actually making a practice in my

1115
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: life of reaching out to people just if I think

1116
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: of them, or if I see good work, or you know,

1117
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: someone's on my mind and I haven't been in touch

1118
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: with them for many, many years, I'll just send a texting, Hey,

1119
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of you, I appreciate you. And it's usually

1120
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: like takes people. They're like, what you texted me after

1121
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 1: ten years. I feel like it heals me every time

1122
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 1: I think of, you know, seeing someone's achievement or because

1123
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: I would have wanted that, I would want that for me,

1124
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: and I would want that for I think everybody deserves

1125
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: to hear if that you're a pretiated or that you

1126
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: mean something to someone, or you've done something that moved somebody. Yeah,

1127
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: and we should try and do that while people are

1128
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: on this planet. And it just takes a text or

1129
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: a thought. The more you start doing it, it's a

1130
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: butterfly effect of just niceness.

1131
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and I love that you spoke about your

1132
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: father because this isn't about doing it for people just

1133
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: in the public eye. It's just the idea of life.

1134
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: Like this is not at all in the public This

1135
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: is not a public eye think I'm talking.

1136
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: About, Like, nobody needs to know this between you and

1137
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: that person.

1138
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 2: It's correct.

1139
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not on Instagram.

1140
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I love what you about you dad.

1141
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's a text.

1142
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just people need to know while they're here,

1143
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: while they're living, while they're breathing, how you feel about them.

1144
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: And for people to be celebrated and honored while they're

1145
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: here with us, because you see all the time someone

1146
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: passes away and all of a sudden there's a irruption

1147
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: of love and joy. But it's like they weren't experiencing

1148
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 2: that while they were alive. And what a loss, What

1149
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 2: a lot, not only for them, but for us to

1150
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: even have the opportunity to express that gratitude or notice

1151
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: that about them, or such.

1152
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: A privilege to be able to express to someone what

1153
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: you feel for them. As a world, as a society,

1154
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: we don't encourage our young or ourselves enough to be

1155
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: able to be honest when you feel something for someone,

1156
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: just appreciating people. I didn't know that at all when

1157
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: I was younger. Again, I guess as you evolved in life.

1158
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: But in my twenties, I was like, my attitude literally

1159
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: was everyone is doing their job, so you know, I'm

1160
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: doing my job. I'm not appreciating. I'm not expecting appreciation,

1161
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: so why should anybody else expect appreciation?

1162
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: It was so tough, and that's I guess I.

1163
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: Was allowing myself to not have the expectation of appreciation

1164
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: because I never got it.

1165
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it came.

1166
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: My attitude came from protecting myself. Now, I understand this

1167
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: at that time, like even a few years back, I

1168
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: was like that I would just I was like, I

1169
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: don't expect you to say I did an amazing job,

1170
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: or if my scene is right, I'm not expecting the

1171
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: director to be like, clap for me, So why do

1172
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: I have to do that for people? It was like

1173
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: such a tough like attitude, but I understood why, because

1174
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, I would not get appreciation. I was navigating

1175
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: this insane new industry and I didn't want to have

1176
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: to seek it. So I built this wall where I

1177
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: was like, nobody needs it, but you do. Everyone does.

1178
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: And you know, now I've understood that. It's just I

1179
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: don't know where what that learning was, but I think

1180
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: just appreciating people is just nice.

1181
01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: It's just nice.

1182
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 2: I think we all go through that phase where you're

1183
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 2: really blocking something because you're right, we don't want to

1184
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 2: want validation. No one wants to want that, but we

1185
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: kind of like it. Yeah, and then you're fighting against

1186
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: that feeling of why do I want it? I shouldn't

1187
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: want it, and therefore no one else should want it,

1188
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 2: but really, deep down we all need it. Because I

1189
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: was saying to someone today, like we're talking about the

1190
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 2: need for usefulness, like everyone wants to feel useful. We

1191
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 2: think people want to feel important or significant or celebrated.

1192
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 2: And it's like most of us, like good humans, are

1193
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: not narcissists or living in it. We just want to

1194
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 2: feel useful. And it's when you don't feel useful to

1195
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 2: someone that you feel valueless and helpless. And did I

1196
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 2: add something? Exactly?

1197
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: All we want to do is bring something to the

1198
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: table and without having to ask for Yeah, you know,

1199
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: you don't want to have to ask, like do I

1200
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: bring value? You know, And especially when you're starting out

1201
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: in any job, you're like, if you're told even once

1202
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: that you bring value, it just it makes you want

1203
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: to do better work. And I think that why I

1204
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: did that to myself was because I didn't know if

1205
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: I would get it, and I didn't want to put

1206
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: myself in a position where I had the expectations and

1207
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: then I was let down, of course, So I just

1208
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: normalized the fact that nobody needs appreciation. I don't need it,

1209
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: You don't need.

1210
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 2: It, Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. Yeah. We repeat what we reward.

1211
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 2: So if we reward the feeling of oh, I don't

1212
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 2: want to I don't need it, we're going to repeat

1213
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: that if we if we've reward someone for putting an

1214
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 2: f and doing good work, that person will repeat it

1215
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 2: because that's what inspires all of us. I really appreciate

1216
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: you going there on that theme of just how hard

1217
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: that transition was, because I think from the outside you

1218
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 2: make it look easy.

1219
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: Like I said, no, one's business.

1220
01:07:58,520 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, business.

1221
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to talk about personal struggles because

1222
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: there's just so much hardship in the world. Like I

1223
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: feel really like, even what was hard for me, it's

1224
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: not as hard as what everybody like, there's so many

1225
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: people going through so much worse. So there is a

1226
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: part of myself that still is hard on myself for.

1227
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 2: Because it's not hard enough because you're.

1228
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: Like, don't you shouldn't be feeling that way, don't be silly, like,

1229
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: but you know, like everyone has struggles in their lives

1230
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: and it's tough to talk about it because you're like, like,

1231
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: what was so hard about that? Just personally it was.

1232
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not in context or comparison to anyone else.

1233
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: It's it's technologying how you feel. I mean, that seemed

1234
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 2: like a big transition for you. And when Nick was

1235
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 2: on the show, he spoke so vulnerably and openly about

1236
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: the birth of your daughter, which was traumatic to say

1237
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: the least, and of course amazing, but in that moment,

1238
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 2: just how heavy it was and difficult it was just

1239
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 2: for both of you and going through that process. I

1240
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you if you were comfortable sharing from

1241
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 2: your heart and your words what that experience was like

1242
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 2: for you.

1243
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: The whole thing was tough because our journey, too malthy itself,

1244
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 1: was really rough. I don't want to get into details

1245
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: because I don't know if I'm ready to talk about it,

1246
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: but it was very hard on me. And she's a

1247
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: miracle baby because she was my only hope at that

1248
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: time to be able to have a baby. So when

1249
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: we were told that she's coming, like at twenty seven weeks,

1250
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 1: I just shut down. I remember I sat in front

1251
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 1: of a fireplace in our house, I think like nine

1252
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: hours or something. And for someone who's always a solution oriented,

1253
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: I didn't have a thought in my brain. And Nick

1254
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: was somewhere and he came back and we just grabbed me.

1255
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: We loaded the car and our dogs and we drove.

1256
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 1: It was COVID time, and just the situation under which

1257
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: she was born was so much duress for everyone involved,

1258
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 1: and it was just really intense. She was purple and

1259
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 1: like we didn't know the NICKU nurses couldn't like their

1260
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: little finger was too big for her mouth. How they

1261
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: intubated her was like I still see that image. And

1262
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: thankfully everything was fine with our surrogate so we could

1263
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: focus our energy and just I was just numb, and

1264
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: I just remember I didn't know what to do or

1265
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: how to be useful in that moment. We went with

1266
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,799
Speaker 1: her to the nick You one of us was allowed

1267
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: at a time, and she cried the first time, and

1268
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: it was like a cat like just just like that's

1269
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 1: all we got. My mom flew down, my in laws

1270
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: flew down, But we were in the hospital and it

1271
01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: was such a personally traumatic time. But somehow, because we

1272
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: were in and out of the hospital, I remember it

1273
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: leaked and we got a text saying that it's gonna

1274
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: her birth is going to be put out by the papers.

1275
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: And I don't want to give credence to who sent

1276
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: us that message or which network it was, but that

1277
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: if we don't like, they're gonna put it out in

1278
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: three hours. So we were kind of forced into announcing

1279
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: her birth. Which gives. We wanted to hold on to

1280
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: our own narrative of it, but we weren't ready because

1281
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: we didn't know what would happen with her or how

1282
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: she would be. It was three months, almost one hundred

1283
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: and ten days. We stopped everything. We were in the

1284
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: hospital every day with her. We did shifts so that

1285
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: she could be on our skin. The nurses said, from

1286
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: day two of life, we should be doing skin to skin.

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01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: So Nick would sing to her on his guitar. I

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01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: used to have this little iPod which played all my mantras,

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01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: my Mohammed Tunje mantra, my guy, three months of my

1290
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 1: own Micheva, like all of it would play all day

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01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: in inside her crib, just softly. There were a lot

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01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,759
Speaker 1: of people praying for her. She was very, very desired,

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01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: very coveted and treasured because she was so hard. It

1294
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: was so hard her journey to get to this planet,

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01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: and she had like six blood transfusions.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: I used to feel like she looked just like Nick

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01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: and I as a combination, but everyone says that she

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01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: looked like him. But even in those days, like as

1300
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: soon as we would be switching out, like she would

1301
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: recognize our voices and smile like just her eyes weren't open,

1302
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: she would have a little, like slight smile. And if

1303
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: you ever met our daughter, she has the most glorious

1304
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 1: smile on the planet, like full face laugh. So it

1305
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: was a brutal time, but I think I talked to

1306
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: myself when I'm in tough situations. Once I got out

1307
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 1: of the stunned nature of it, I realized how afraid

1308
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,839
Speaker 1: she must have been. So I didn't have the privilege

1309
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: of being upset or afraid. I had to show up

1310
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: as her mom, and I had to be tough through it.

1311
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: I had to smile for her. I had to equip

1312
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: myself to take care of a premie baby and make

1313
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: sure she's the healthiest that she can be. And that's

1314
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: just what my focus turned into. And I was like,

1315
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: it is not about me or him. And this happened

1316
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: like immediately as soon as she was on my chest

1317
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: for the first time at almost twenty seven and a

1318
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: half weeks, like two or three days after and she

1319
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: was so tiny that her fingers felt like butterflies on me,

1320
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: just like this little one pound eleven ounces. In that moment,

1321
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I will go to the ends of

1322
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: the earth to protect you. It's a feeling I have

1323
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 1: never felt before, and I think every first time parents

1324
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: says that. But it's like your heart is beating outside

1325
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: of your body. And especially with her, because she was

1326
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: so vulnerable, I became a tigress about everything from her

1327
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: nutrition to you know, her medication, to her transfusions to

1328
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: Nick and I. As a team, we didn't have to

1329
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: talk to each other. It was just done. We used

1330
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: to look at one another and you know, we'd have

1331
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: the diaper bag, We'd have like tomorrow we have to

1332
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: tomorrow's her bath day. We'd have the bad like all

1333
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: the little things. Make sure that you know she has

1334
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 1: this much of milk and is she just every little

1335
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: thing about her to make sure she gets to that

1336
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: weight and just survives was the only order of business.

1337
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: Everything else took a back seat. And the day we

1338
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: brought her home, she was still so tiny. And I

1339
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 1: have a big Monday in our house with a big

1340
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: shiv GI's MORTI why, really, I'm a big ship pucked.

1341
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,879
Speaker 1: I really believe that. You know, poly Baba has guided

1342
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 1: me through every difficult moment in my life, and I've

1343
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: like sat on his shoulders and we just as a

1344
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 1: family sat in front of his vision and I think

1345
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 1: that's the first time I really wept. She was still

1346
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: so tiny, but I just I wept for the grace

1347
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: that she survived, the gratitude that she was home, that

1348
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: she chose us, that we could make this happen, where

1349
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, she could be in this world and have

1350
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: this thriving life. IVF is tough, and everything that contributed

1351
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: to her being on this earth. I was just so

1352
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: grateful for and just relieved. And after that we had,

1353
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, a big heaven for her, and she came

1354
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 1: home and her naming ceremony and and then it just

1355
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: it became real. You know, yeah, gosh.

1356
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 2: I think anyone who here is that just you know,

1357
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 2: so sorry you had to go through that, and sorry

1358
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: that the family had to go through it to you

1359
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 2: other as well.

1360
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about it, you know, because I

1361
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: saw on your podcast when Nick talked about it, and

1362
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 1: I knew we would talk about it also, but I

1363
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: was kind of thinking about, like why. I've started thinking

1364
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: a lot about the whys in my life, Like how

1365
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: did I navigate that? Because when you're doing it, you

1366
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: just do it right.

1367
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 2: You just take your choices.

1368
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: You're not really thinking about the why. But in retrospect

1369
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: I like to kind of unpick at that a little bit,

1370
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: and I was unpicking at it, and I guess my

1371
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: choice to have kids at a later stage contributed to

1372
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: this being a really tough journey for me. But if

1373
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 1: I would have done it earlier, would it have been

1374
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: the wrong time. It wouldn't have been her. So I

1375
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: have to I kind of made my peace with the

1376
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: fact that this journey came from making the right choice

1377
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: for me and for my biggest flex Honestly, I feel

1378
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: is I'm living this life with the right guy, with

1379
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: the right father, for this incredible baby that we have,

1380
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 1: and that was meant to be, and the journey was

1381
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: meant to be. I feel really blessed to be on

1382
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 1: the other side of it, like I said, but it

1383
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: couldn't have been any other way, So you have to

1384
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: kind of forgive yourself.

1385
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that overthinking brain of well, if

1386
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 2: I did it this time, if I could have done.

1387
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: It like this, she wouldn't have and then what she

1388
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: went through. But you're like, oh, it would be a

1389
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: different soul, it would be a different, different, different Like

1390
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what that would have been like, I

1391
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: can't speak to that whether it would be good, whether

1392
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: it be bad. It just wouldn't be this. Yeah, and

1393
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: this is great. So you know, I can't speak for

1394
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: the parallel lanes of that's universe with the.

1395
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,719
Speaker 2: Mind of our life. Yeah, that's the mind trying to.

1396
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: Bring back to the present and the gratitude of you know,

1397
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: our little family and being able to be together.

1398
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the mind plays all those games, if the

1399
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 2: sliding doors and if this, then that and should it

1400
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: could it would have and it's it's fascinating. I love

1401
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 2: how much faith in your life is such a central

1402
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 2: pillar of a stronghold of how you you know, come

1403
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 2: back to that and I know that's been there since

1404
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 2: day one, right with your family.

1405
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: And first of all, I think when you grow up

1406
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: in India, it's kind of ingrained in whatever religion you

1407
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: might grow up and faith is a big part of

1408
01:20:56,160 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: Indian spirituality. And you know, we are a country multiple religions,

1409
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: so I was very influenced by just faith in general,

1410
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: the multicultural nature of my family as well. My grandmother

1411
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 1: is Catholic, you know, my Massi is Muslim. We were

1412
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: grown up raised as Hindus, but I went to like

1413
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 1: a Catholic school, like it was just a lot of influences.

1414
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:31,839
Speaker 1: And to me, faith is basically a relationship with something

1415
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: larger than yourself, and religion is your path to get there,

1416
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: and it's unique to everyone and every journey. But I've

1417
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 1: had a really really strong faith in my life since

1418
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: I was a kid. Both my parents did, especially with

1419
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 1: Lord Shiva, and you know, we've been Shivbucks from when

1420
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: we were kids, and that's a big pillar of my

1421
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: faith and it's really gotten me through really scary times

1422
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,759
Speaker 1: and tough times, Like I kind of just like close

1423
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: my eyes and go into a little box where I'm

1424
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: just talking to my God, like I'm just talking to

1425
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,799
Speaker 1: pull it off, and I'm like I say my prayer

1426
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: and I'm saying, You'll get me through it. And it's

1427
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: like I feel safe in the box. It's almost like

1428
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: I'm held and somehow I come through it. And that's

1429
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: what it is, right Like faith should feel like a hug,

1430
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 1: like a safe place, and my faith has always felt

1431
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: like that to me.

1432
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing that. It's as hard as it

1433
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 2: is to hear, and also to hear how hard it

1434
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 2: was for all of you. It's inspiring and hope giving.

1435
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 2: I think to so many to just hear about how

1436
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: you all came together, how that hope and that fight

1437
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 2: and that persistence and the shifts that you both did

1438
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: for you know, the months that you both switched for

1439
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 2: and probably not even seeing each other much in the

1440
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 2: changeover because you're trying to give time, and and the

1441
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 2: way you both describe her as the miracle baby, it's

1442
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 2: such a you know, yeah, such a beautiful.

1443
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: Her soul was meant to be here, yea, and she

1444
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: clawed her way into life. And I will celebrate that

1445
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: every day, and so will Nick. Like we celebrate her

1446
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: every day. She literally said that yesterday to me. She's like, Mama,

1447
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: my birthday just doesn't end. And I was like, it doesn't.

1448
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

1449
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: We celebrate you every days. Because somebody came in and

1450
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: got her a present and her birthdays in January. She

1451
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: was like, that just doesn't end, and I was like,

1452
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:41,719
Speaker 1: and it won't.

1453
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 2: That's so cute. Every day.

1454
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:44,759
Speaker 1: I love your birthday.

1455
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 2: I love that. Well, Brianka, We've reached out to I

1456
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 2: reached out to Nick to share a letter for you

1457
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 2: that I could share with you. So I'm going to

1458
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 2: read it.

1459
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: Did you do this on the day, did the body?

1460
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 2: No? No in between?

1461
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: In between?

1462
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 2: Not on the day. So I'm going to read it

1463
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: to you from Nick. So this is from Nick to Pretanca,

1464
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 2: so he said, he says my chand which I love.

1465
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 2: I was like just seeing him write there's viewerful while

1466
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 2: it's the first time. I'm reading it too, so I've

1467
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 2: not ready. I always save it because I'm not I

1468
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 2: don't like reading it before it comes, so I've never

1469
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 2: read it. Here's my Joan. I'm constantly in awe of

1470
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 2: the person you are. It's not just the big titles,

1471
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 2: global icon, leader, force of nature. It's how you show

1472
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,520
Speaker 2: up as a mother, a daughter, a sister, and my wife.

1473
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 2: The focus and thoughtfulness you bring to every single day

1474
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 2: is something I try to live up to. Everyone sees

1475
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 2: the public side of you, but it's who you are

1476
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 2: in the quiet moments that really flaws me. You have

1477
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,639
Speaker 2: this incredible patience and a way of listening that makes

1478
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 2: people feel completely safe. I've seen people who usually keep

1479
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 2: their guards way up just let it go all around you,

1480
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 2: finding a kind of healing they didn't know they needed.

1481
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: One of my favorite qualities about you is that you

1482
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 2: truly never judge. You just meet people where they're at

1483
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 2: and always find the good in people. That's a rare thing.

1484
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 2: You're a leader in every sense. In these last eight

1485
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 2: years of what you take on challenges that would have

1486
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 2: broken most people. Whether it's on a set or navigating

1487
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 2: the massive life change of moving countries and blending two

1488
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 2: very different worlds, you do it with a fire that

1489
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: honestly lights me up. You've stayed so true to your

1490
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 2: roots while adapting with the kindness that seems to never

1491
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 2: run out. I'm so incredibly proud of you. I know

1492
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,799
Speaker 2: your dad is looking down with that same pride seeing

1493
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 2: the woman you continue to be as you talk with

1494
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 2: Jay today, and he'd better have those tissues ready. Just

1495
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 2: know that Maulti, Marie and I are right there with

1496
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 2: you. You're the center of our universe. Building this life with

1497
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 2: you is the greatest honor I have. Knowing where a

1498
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 2: team gives me a sense of peace I can't even describe.

1499
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 2: No matter what life throws at us, I know we

1500
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 2: can handle it together. I love you endlessly.

1501
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: Nick Jonas, that's crazy, man. Where are those tissues?

1502
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 2: He said?

1503
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: Promised? I know, I'm like Nick, come on, like he

1504
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 1: knows is why knows what will get me.

1505
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. I love your love long may flourish and

1506
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,759
Speaker 2: continue and thrive. And I'm sure grab that multi Marie

1507
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 2: has both of your love as well, and I hope

1508
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: that continues as well. You've been so kind. I hope

1509
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 2: that was a I know he says it to you

1510
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 2: every day probably anyway, but he.

1511
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: Is one to say it, is not one to not

1512
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 1: say it. And I think he promised me that very

1513
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: early in our engagement. Actually he said when he asked

1514
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 1: my mom for my hand in marriage, which he did

1515
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: before even asked me what a gentleman, But he said,

1516
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: I promised your mom that I'll always keep you happy,

1517
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 1: and that's going to be my quest is your happiness.

1518
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: And I'll always tell you how loved you are. And

1519
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: you can say that like when you just get married,

1520
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 1: of course, but to keep up with it and to

1521
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: make sure he tells me in little things. I was

1522
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: just I told you I was. I'm purging my house

1523
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 1: at the moment because we've just moved back to LA

1524
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 1: so I'm like switching it out for what's right for

1525
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 1: us now. So I have this memory drawer in which

1526
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 1: I keep cards I love the cards that people write me.

1527
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: I love a handwritten note. So I was pulling out

1528
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: all my cards and they're all mixed up, and all

1529
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: of these letters that Nick has written to me over

1530
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 1: the years, and I put them all together and I

1531
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 1: was just reading them, and right from the beginning, he

1532
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: just always told me, and you know it's the simplest thing,

1533
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 1: but tell your loved ones you love them. It makes

1534
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: such a big difference. Absolutely, such an important reminder. And yeah,

1535
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: especially if you can write that well as well. Marry

1536
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 1: a musician.

1537
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly, Princle. We now end you didn't do

1538
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 2: this last time. We end every episode with these two

1539
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 2: fun games that we created, once called would you Rather?

1540
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 2: And the other one's gut reaction. Okay, so would you rather?

1541
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 2: It is first up? So prianca chebro, this is your

1542
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 2: would you rather? Would you rather play the hero or

1543
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 2: the villain for the rest of your career in movies? Yeah?

1544
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah, I mean I do love playing a

1545
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 1: bad guy, but it would get boring for the rest

1546
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: of your life, because I don't know how creative I

1547
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 1: could get with how many bad guys. But I'll say

1548
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:57,520
Speaker 1: the villain it's very interesting.

1549
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the bluff. Okay, yeah, are going to get to

1550
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: see you.

1551
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 1: Well I'm not a villain in the No, you're not.

1552
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: But we get to see you do a lot of

1553
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 2: crazy action scenes.

1554
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. It's so this movie, which I've done

1555
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 1: a lot of work with Amazon Prime and this is

1556
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: another one of our collaborations, But this movie is at

1557
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 1: such a pivotal point in my life because my character

1558
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: is a former pirate who was known as Bloody Mary,

1559
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 1: self titled. I mean you can tell why. She was

1560
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: tough and gruesome and based off of like Grace O'Malley

1561
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 1: from Ireland and many other female pirates that did exist

1562
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: at that time whose lives were just insane, Like if

1563
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 1: you read the books, it's like, I can't imagine being

1564
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 1: a female and a pirate at that time. But why

1565
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 1: this movie really resonated with me is something I said

1566
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 1: earlier to in the podcast, which is how far would

1567
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 1: you go to protect your family? How far would you

1568
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: go to protect your children? And this is the story

1569
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 1: of a mother and a woman who says, you're not

1570
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 1: coming from my family. One of the most amazing lines

1571
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 1: in this movie, which I really deeply resonated with, is

1572
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: you come to my home. You threaten my family and

1573
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 1: then I kill him and I say, where is my husband?

1574
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: Where is my husband? Every wife when they're playing golf,

1575
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:25,680
Speaker 1: isn't it?

1576
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:28,759
Speaker 2: I love that? That's so good?

1577
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: But you know, I really it's it's That's what I

1578
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: love about this. It's really fun. It's like a bloody

1579
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 1: insane It's like I love doing that toy. It's got trauma,

1580
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: it's beautifully shot, based in the Caribbean. What more because

1581
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: you ask, but our director was humorously talented Frankie Flowers.

1582
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 1: What would you do? How far would you go?

1583
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 2: And you've lived through that in your own version of that.

1584
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: And I will continue to Yeah, like go to the

1585
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: end of the earth to protect.

1586
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 2: I saw that when you said that. I was like, wow,

1587
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 2: do not messy. Your don't come from and your eyes

1588
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 2: are like jade, do not And I'm like, I'm like

1589
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 2: trying to beat out this is like you know, this

1590
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 2: is that was? I saw that in your eye You're

1591
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 2: like fully locked in there, and I was like, Okay,

1592
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 2: I'm scared now, all right. Would you rather have to

1593
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 2: wear your Miss World crown to every major Hollywood premiere

1594
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 2: for the next year or have to introduce yourself as

1595
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 2: Miss World two thousand in every room you neither.

1596
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's the worst. One should be a Miss

1597
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 1: World choice and the other one shouldn't be.

1598
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 2: Neither.

1599
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 1: I am very proud of that achievement for my eighteen

1600
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 1: year old self at that time, but it's not something

1601
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 1: I would care to do again.

1602
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 2: Okay. Would you rather accidentally send a flirty voice note

1603
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 2: meant for Nick to your entire production group chat or

1604
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 2: accidentally read one of your own romantic text out loud

1605
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,080
Speaker 2: thinking it was part of the script during a table.

1606
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't do that, but I may have even

1607
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 1: done this, like I am notoriously known for sending the

1608
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 1: wrong messages to the wrong Okay, got it? So I

1609
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 1: think it would be funny, you'll bear.

1610
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right? This one. This one applies to the

1611
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 2: bluff as well. Would you rather film a brutal stunt

1612
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 2: sequence in one take, absolutely nail it, but get injured

1613
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 2: and never be allowed to do your own stunts again,

1614
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 2: or play it safe, let a stump double take over

1615
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 2: and always wonder if you could have done it yourself.

1616
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: I have done enough work with incredible stunt teams to

1617
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 1: know when I can and when I can't wow. I'm

1618
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 1: very very safe and practical. I'm not a hero when

1619
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 1: it comes to set. I don't need to prove a point.

1620
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm a professional. I go to set, I see what

1621
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 1: I have to do the bluff, especially in fact, there's

1622
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 1: a lot of one take scenes and a lot of

1623
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 1: injuries that I did get in this movie. But because

1624
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 1: it's a dramatic performance of a a you know, stunt movie,

1625
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 1: it really required my face in everything. It required me

1626
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: to convey the emotion of what I was feeling while

1627
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 1: I was in the stunt scenes. So I did a

1628
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: lot of it myself. I was trained by an incredible

1629
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:19,759
Speaker 1: stunt team. My stunt coordinator and double Anisha Gibbs worked

1630
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,720
Speaker 1: with me very very closely. In fact, we shot a

1631
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 1: whole year. The first three months was Heads of State.

1632
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: While I was filming Heads of State, I was training

1633
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 1: the bluff. Thank you so fun. It was so fun.

1634
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 2: It was so much fun.

1635
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,799
Speaker 1: So in between shots we would train the sword fighting

1636
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 1: sequences on set, so Interest and John would be like,

1637
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 1: we don't use swords in this movie, but we would

1638
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 1: be training for the next one. Right after I finished

1639
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 1: that in France, I flew to Australia ten days seven

1640
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 1: days in and started filming the bluff, which was for

1641
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 1: three months. So it was just so intense and you

1642
01:33:54,960 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 1: were right in training happened while filming. Wow, learning choreography

1643
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 1: happened wild filming. So I would get like a few

1644
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: hours off after finishing a scene and I would go

1645
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 1: learn my choreo or in between shots. So it was

1646
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 1: just like very alive and creative. And but I'm very safe.

1647
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 1: Like I learned very early in my career that the

1648
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 1: person doing the stunt, you have to walk your path,

1649
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 1: even if your stunt ups checked it for you. You

1650
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 1: walk your path. You see if there's you know, a

1651
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:27,719
Speaker 1: nail coming out from somewhere, if you could get injured,

1652
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 1: if you know where you're falling, doesn't have like a protrusion.

1653
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 1: Like you have to be really practical in order to

1654
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 1: be able to pull off stunts and stuff like that.

1655
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 1: Can't be a hero.

1656
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 2: I like the pragmatism and the practically very useful can't

1657
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 2: be a hero. Great answer, all right, one last one?

1658
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 2: Would you rather? And then when you've got reactions, so

1659
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 2: would you rather that perform? I think I know the

1660
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 2: answer to this one because I saw you already do

1661
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,599
Speaker 2: this and it was amazing. Would you rather perform one

1662
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 2: full Jurist Brother's song on stage by yourself, what in

1663
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 2: front of a sold out stadium? Or open a Jernais

1664
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 2: Brothers show with a five minut stand up monologue about

1665
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 2: your relationship. The monologue you did so good on the Rose.

1666
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 2: The roast is so good that his hands down, still

1667
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 2: one of my favorite clips of you.

1668
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 1: Can I tell you a secret?

1669
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Please?

1670
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:11,679
Speaker 1: Nick wrote my rose?

1671
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 2: No did he actually no, don't tell us that. Don't

1672
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 2: ruin it. It was so good, but.

1673
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm not ruining it.

1674
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 2: That's our partnership. That's your partnership. But your delivery was brilliant.

1675
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1676
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 1: I mean you didn't write all of it.

1677
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 2: Brot.

1678
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 1: He brought in a lot of amazing contributions.

1679
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 2: He's good comedy too, what he knows.

1680
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: His wife like he wanted to set me up for success,

1681
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: and it was like, you need to lean into this joke,

1682
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 1: you need to say that, and I was like, no,

1683
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to dress.

1684
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:40,719
Speaker 2: It's like so good.

1685
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 1: The Instagram thing was all Nick. It was such a

1686
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 1: great just like you have the most Instagram followers of

1687
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 1: all three of us combined, and I was like, I'm

1688
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:48,839
Speaker 1: not saying that.

1689
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 2: That was so good.

1690
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 1: He was like, you have to say it, so you

1691
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: know he really liked He was like, and yeah, that's

1692
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:58,719
Speaker 1: our partnership where you know, we want to set each

1693
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 1: other up for success.

1694
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 2: I love that.

1695
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 1: It was such a beautiful moment for me where he

1696
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 1: just like came up with his own roast.

1697
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 2: That's awesome. They were great jokes. They landed well, all right,

1698
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 2: gut reactions to your instincts, your response, because you did

1699
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 2: the final five with us last time, so we made

1700
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 2: this up for you. The thing I pretend I'm chill

1701
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 2: about but I'm not.

1702
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 1: Is most things I literally come across as the most

1703
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 1: chill and most confident, but inside I'm like a duck

1704
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: under the water. But up front you don't see anything.

1705
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:38,679
Speaker 1: Some stress about most things.

1706
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 2: The most unhinged thought I've had this week was.

1707
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 1: It's not unhinged, but it's an honest thought. Just came

1708
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 1: up actually in your life.

1709
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:51,719
Speaker 2: Oh God.

1710
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 1: So when we first moved into our house, I was

1711
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: filming a lot, and you know, we had people who

1712
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 1: were doing the interiors and helping us with the interiors

1713
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 1: of our homes. When I have a library, which is

1714
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 1: my pride and joy. And so I walked into the

1715
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 1: library and the books were color coded, and I was like,

1716
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Whose library is color coded? Library

1717
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 1: was color coded? I was like, Jay, do you read

1718
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 1: your books or other? Is pretty?

1719
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 2: That's so good, that's actually read them. I love it.

1720
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad, thank you for being honest. This is good.

1721
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. That's good. Well, I

1722
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 2: have two. You will see the one in the house

1723
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,440
Speaker 2: when we go there later today. So that's my bookshop.

1724
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 2: That's my proud and joy. Yeah, it's all makes them

1725
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 2: messed up and everything. And this was like during zoom

1726
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 2: days of pandemic, so it was like, everything's good. Yeah,

1727
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 2: exactly you great answer. Great answer. The most humbling mom

1728
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 2: moment I've recently had was.

1729
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 1: So being a working mom is tough. I saw my

1730
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: mom being a working mom, I and her mom, so

1731
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,639
Speaker 1: I know it's doable. Whenever me or my husband leave,

1732
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 1: either one of us are with Maltis. If I'm traveling,

1733
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: he's with her, or we have the grandparents, my in laws,

1734
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 1: who are beautiful and gracious while I'm doing this, press

1735
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 1: to her there with our daughter.

1736
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 3: Or my mom.

1737
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 1: But I was packing up and I was leaving for

1738
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 1: a film shoot. I'm working on an Indian movie called

1739
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 1: Varani in Hyderabad.

1740
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, congrats, so excited for that.

1741
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1742
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 2: This is huge. It's just going to point out for

1743
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 2: everyone who doesn't know. It's like there's a gentleman who

1744
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 2: made our Roger mo, Yeah, who's making Varanasi. And so

1745
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 2: it's amazing, great.

1746
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: Part and an incredible movie and great partners in the movie.

1747
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 1: So I've had to fly back and forth from Hyderabad

1748
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 1: like every month because I come back to Malti.

1749
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1750
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 1: I literally my airline status has gone up because of

1751
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 1: this one movie. But I was leaving and I was

1752
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 1: packing up, and before I leave for a trip, we

1753
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 1: talk about it and we have this invisible string which

1754
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: is in her heart and my heart, and you know,

1755
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: we talk about the fact that mama's gone for like

1756
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 1: twelve sleeps or fifteen sleeps, and so we were having

1757
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: that chat. And whenever she has real feelings, she talks

1758
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 1: to her babies because she is a mama and she

1759
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 1: has little dollies which are her babies. And so when

1760
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 1: I was leaving, she was looking at her baby and

1761
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 1: she says, I'm such a good Mama, I don't leave

1762
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,759
Speaker 1: you and go to work. She's three and a half.

1763
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:28,640
Speaker 2: That's heartbreaking.

1764
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 1: So what was the question again?

1765
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my most humbling moment.

1766
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 1: I was like, my toes curled. I was almost about

1767
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:44,600
Speaker 1: to cancel my flight. I was so stressed out. And

1768
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 1: then she laughed and smiled at me. She knew it

1769
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 1: was a joke, you know, and she jumped on me

1770
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, don't say that, and she was

1771
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 1: like no, Mama, no, Like she wasn't like getting me

1772
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 1: or Nick or any of us like upset. She's very

1773
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 1: sensitive to that. So but I was like, I was

1774
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 1: thinking about it the whole flight around. I was like,

1775
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, thats a child. To humble you in

1776
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 1: one second was painful.

1777
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:14,640
Speaker 2: That's heartbreaking, just heartbreaking, so tough. If I have a

1778
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 2: little girl, I'm gonna be wrapped around. I figure, it's

1779
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:18,679
Speaker 2: so hard because they.

1780
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 1: Have that little voice and those eyes. Yeah, it's just over.

1781
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's crazy.

1782
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 2: How does it feel to be going back to India

1783
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 2: to do a movie again after so many years?

1784
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:30,719
Speaker 1: If there was any film to be done, it would

1785
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 1: have been this, Like this is the best way of

1786
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 1: going back into Indian films. I missed it so much.

1787
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 1: I missed you know, dancing, I missed the chaos on set,

1788
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 1: I missed the creativity and with s Stragia Molly, so

1789
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 1: he's so his mind is and his vision is so

1790
01:40:55,439 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 1: far beyond limited imagination that just to be able to

1791
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 1: see what he's thinking and and kind of be the

1792
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:08,400
Speaker 1: vessel to tell that story is great. My part is amazing.

1793
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 1: I have like a beautiful graph of ups and downs

1794
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 1: in the movie. My co actors are great. You know,

1795
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 1: it's awesome to be able to work with actors who

1796
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:24,720
Speaker 1: like know their stuff arrive you know, on time, like,

1797
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 1: are great to be around, are fun, and you know,

1798
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 1: it's been a really really gratifying journey so far as

1799
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 1: long he takes a long time to make movies. It's

1800
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 1: almost been fourteen months, but you know it's going to

1801
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 1: be really special, and the journey of it has also

1802
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,679
Speaker 1: been special. In fact, I took multi to hydrabad Ones

1803
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: and she went to the farm and she saw, like

1804
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: they have this beautiful farm outside of hydrobad which you know,

1805
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 1: so his wife, his family, they like run themselves, and

1806
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: it was so much fun. You know, she met like

1807
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 1: Cobs and saw paddy Fields and like ran around and

1808
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 1: it was beautiful.

1809
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:07,759
Speaker 2: I love it. I'm so excited for you for the bluff,

1810
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 2: for Maranassi, for your family. It's congratulations on it all,

1811
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 2: and thank you today for just you know, sharing it

1812
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 2: as it is and what's going on behind the scenes.

1813
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 2: Did I what's happening? You know, what's what's really going on?

1814
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 2: You can tell me offline if we got there.

1815
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1816
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 2: I don't like.

1817
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: That's the thing about you, Like, yes, one, when I'm

1818
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 1: doing an interview, I try not to think about it.

1819
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 1: But you also like have this amazing innate quality of

1820
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 1: being able to like get people to talk about tough

1821
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 1: things without very sweet feeling judged or without feeling critiqued.

1822
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what will happen when these clips come out,

1823
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 1: but while we're on this couch is real good.

1824
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Well no, My only intention is just that

1825
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 2: you know that people get to talk about the things

1826
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 2: they don't get to talk about anywhere else, and people

1827
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:01,639
Speaker 2: get to really understand what's going on. When we think

1828
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 2: we know everything, I think we live in a world

1829
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 2: right now where we we think we know what everyone's

1830
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 2: going through. We think we know what everyone believes. And

1831
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 2: it's nice to have an opportunity to create space. And

1832
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 2: I think it's not just creating space for each other,

1833
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 2: but hopefully this ripples out to people creating space in

1834
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 2: their families and their friends and amongst each other.

1835
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 1: Is giving each other benefit of the doubt. Yeah, some

1836
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: grace in space, some goodness, believing in people's goodness. I

1837
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 1: used to think. Actually Nick writes this in his letter,

1838
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:34,640
Speaker 1: but I used to think that was like one of

1839
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 1: my worst qualities because I'm the worst judge of people.

1840
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 1: I always see people for the good in them, Like

1841
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't understand, like why would you have a bad

1842
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 1: a jet? Like why would like that too? Yeah, it

1843
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense in my brain, Like why would you

1844
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 1: say something to me that you don't mean? It's so

1845
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 1: convoluted and exhausting to think about. Like, but there are

1846
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 1: people like that in the world, and as I've navigated,

1847
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 1: you know, many different countries you have to And I'm

1848
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 1: raising a daughter, like I want to be able to

1849
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: equip her to protect herself, and sometimes that kind of

1850
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 1: transparency or just you know, oh my gosh, what you're

1851
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 1: saying is probably what I'm getting is not the right thing,

1852
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 1: because you know, there are tricky people in the world.

1853
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 1: But it's just tough on me. I've just never been

1854
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 1: able to navigate that very well. Yeah, it's a good

1855
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 1: quality as well, is it. Though it's a little too trusting.

1856
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, I guess as long as you

1857
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 2: have good boundaries when you discover something, I think that's

1858
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah.

1859
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 1: The problem is the discovery.

1860
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the discovery could be terrible. It depends on how

1861
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 2: you never discover it.

1862
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 1: Because some people are really good at maintaining you know, yes, yes, yes,

1863
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 1: like two faced nature or whatever. Yes, my husband's great.

1864
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's the best judge of character. I

1865
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 1: don't know why he says that about me. I like,

1866
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 1: can't tell. I'll tell after you show me your cards,

1867
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 1: like someone does something. I'm like that, yeah, but I

1868
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: cannot tell without that.

1869
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 2: Well, you're a great, great team, great partnership. Brank has

1870
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 2: been a joy, truly, it's been such a joy talking

1871
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 2: to you, and I'm so glad to have you back

1872
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:22,479
Speaker 2: on after five years. I please do not wait five years.

1873
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 2: Please do not wait five years to come back. I

1874
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 2: hope you'll come back.

1875
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 1: Sooner for sure. And here actually in the studio instead

1876
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 1: of doing it virtually.

1877
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're the best.

1878
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 1: Congratulations too, Oh you're doing production now coming to mind

1879
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 1: side of the.

1880
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 2: Business announced, Yeah, yeah, having so much fun with it,

1881
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 2: are you. It's like, you know, when when you grew

1882
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 2: up where I grew up in London, I never have

1883
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 2: believed in a million years that I'd ever have the

1884
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 2: opportunity to do something like this, especially what I thought

1885
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:51,720
Speaker 2: i'd be when I grew up, and so the fact

1886
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:54,679
Speaker 2: that I even have the opportunity is such a blessing

1887
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 2: and such a fortune. So I'm very excited about the

1888
01:45:57,439 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 2: projects you're working on, and.

1889
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. I tell everyone navigating just

1890
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 1: your career, and maybe I'm saying this out of experience,

1891
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 1: but we are living in an incredible time where you

1892
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 1: can actually think of the most insane idea and monetize

1893
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 1: it for everyone. This is not just like for me

1894
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 1: as an actor. In fact, it's limiting for me as

1895
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 1: an actor. But like you can, you know, go beyond

1896
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 1: the medium that you've been given. Like you could be

1897
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 1: a content creator, you could become a producer. You could

1898
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 1: write yourself a story and you know, fund it. You

1899
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: could be enterprising. I tell every person who's navigating this

1900
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 1: ever changing world of any you know, any business that

1901
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 1: you might be in with AI with there's so much change,

1902
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: Like be enterprising, be an entrepreneur for yourself, learn to

1903
01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 1: sell yourself and your strength and understand that you know,

1904
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 1: the end goal might look really large, Like you know,

1905
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 1: you're working with Netflix and you're producing TV shows, Like

1906
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 1: that's insane if you tell your ten year old self,

1907
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 1: even twenty year old self, or even your twenty year

1908
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:18,440
Speaker 1: old self, But you're enterprising and you know your strengths,

1909
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 1: and that's just good business. And to be able to

1910
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 1: be excited about the opportunity is very humble of you.

1911
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 1: But I would like to applaud the fact that you've

1912
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 1: been able to build that road for yourself, and you've

1913
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 1: been enterprising for yourself and you know, build yourself into

1914
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 1: such a strong business. And that's just what I really

1915
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: encourage everyone to think like that for yourself, you know,

1916
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 1: and dreams. Just we're at a time where it's kind

1917
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:46,599
Speaker 1: of magical.

1918
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 2: Absolutely well, it's people like yourself and even the story

1919
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 2: you shared today about pivots that may not even be

1920
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 2: the endpoint, it may not even be the direction of

1921
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 2: the journey, people like yourself. I think it's really inspiring.

1922
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 2: When you're at the top of your g you can pivot,

1923
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 2: try something, go no, this isn't me, and then move

1924
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Speaker 2: again and win. And it's like that. I think watching

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Speaker 2: people do that, people like yourself, I think have set

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Speaker 2: such a great example for everyone to not and everyone

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Speaker 2: around you will tell you the opposite. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Like when I wanted to start doing this, everyone's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: like you know your lane, Like just do your thing,

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Speaker 2: like know your lane, And I was just like, well,

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Speaker 2: what is my lane? Like I didn't know this existed.

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Speaker 2: It's the worst advice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, never stay in your lane. That's like the worst

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Speaker 1: advice because everyone is running so hard to find a lane. Like,

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Speaker 1: when you have something that's unique, which you do about yourself,

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Speaker 1: you can pivot that into anything. Creativity is not limited

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Speaker 1: to like a book. If you're a writer, you could

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Speaker 1: write a screenplay, you could write a script. You could

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Speaker 1: turn that writing and problem solving skill set into production.

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Speaker 1: You could turn production into direct like it could. I'm

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Speaker 1: just talking about my field. I just know my feeling.

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Speaker 1: But you know, even being able to pivot and navigate

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Speaker 1: within the industry or the medium that you know is

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Speaker 1: is really cool to open your mind up for that.

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Speaker 1: Never ever actually stay in your lane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you've set the standard and you've paved the

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Speaker 2: way and shown a great example. So thank you. Happy

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Speaker 2: to get your mentorship and guidance and all the steering

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Speaker 2: insights you have for me. For sure, We're so excited

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Speaker 2: for you. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear more about it.

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Speaker 2: So sweet. If you're feeling inspired by this episode, you

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Speaker 2: won't want to miss my conversation with Wicked's Cynthia Arrivo.

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Speaker 3: We are afraid to let a person go, and we

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Speaker 3: need to be okay with things people go.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what path people are walking on when

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Speaker 1: they walk into our lives.

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Speaker 3: We might just be a

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Speaker 1: Stepping stone in their path, just like stepping stones in

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Speaker 1: their life