1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four, episode three 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: of The Daily Zygeist for November first, two thousand seventeen. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien a K. Potatoes O'Brien a K. Young, 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Jack Fruit a K A. I didn't say Jack o'land 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: turn on Halloween because that ship is too easy. Oh 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: that's not true. I just forgot. And I'm joined by 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: my co host, Mr Miles Gray. Your boy young funeras 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: in the building and it is the first and we 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined on our third seat by 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: Read Agnew, creator of Son of Zorn and the showrunner 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: of Wilfred. Well, I'm happy to be here. Thanks for 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: hey man, We're thrilled to have you. Are you related 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: to Spiro Agnew? I'm not as far as I know, Damnit. 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: I kept saying that every time we brought up, we 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: brought you up. I just go, oh, yeah, Spiro Agnew, 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: Spiragney's grandson. Yeah, I get that. Usually I get that 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: from like more like old timers. Yeah, that's I showed 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: my hand. Miles is fifty six, but I take I 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of cousmexs Adrea done. I'm impressed. Read 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: What's something that you've searched in the last couple of 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: days that is revealing about who you are as a 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: human being. Um, well, google sea slugs or otherwise sea slugs. Yes, 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: those are gross. See no, they are not gross. That's 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: what I meant. If you do an image search for them, 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: they will cheer you up. Do a Google image search 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: for sea slugs and you will see that I was thinking, 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: not that horrible. Oh damn. Yeah, those those like acid 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: trips come to life. Yes, we don't do acid anymore, 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: but I google sea slugs and crack your back and 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: get a little flashback. What do you think is one 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: thing that is overrated? Uh? Locally? Like In and Out 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: Burger is so overrated? Interesting? Tell me why what's going on? 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's good, it's great. I'm not gonna like 34 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm not. But the way it's like people, it's like 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: fish fans. They're like they're like I might. You know, 36 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: I would move away from l A except I would 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: just miss In and Out Broker. It's like not that big. 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: It's good, but you know, Wendy's is better. I think 39 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: that's right down the street. All right, what's something that's 40 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: under well, I'll say you know what this day and age, 41 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: I will say people, people are underrated, and I you know, 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: I hate people as much as anybody, but you know 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: the people that you know, the people that make that 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: make the news are always the loudest, most obnoxious version 45 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: of people. And so you start to think that people 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: are bad. But you know people are crazy and weird 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: and hilarious and that you know they're they're you know, 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: most people are good. Most people are good, and don't 49 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: forget that. And they're also soup. Everybody is super weird. 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: You just have to dig in and and uh. And 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: I will also say underrated as eavesdropping, especially as a writer, 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: like if you just listen to what people are saying, 53 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: you will be That's comedy. That's the best thing any 54 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: comedian or comedy anyone can like get. It's just like 55 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: your average person is insane with weird ideas that they're 56 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: not doing stand up but they're just talking in line 57 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: at the grocery store, and it's like, bizarre, where do 58 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: you do most dropping in line at the grocery store anywhere? 59 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: And Los Angeles to be particularly fertile. Uh, you can 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: often catch like a life coach advising somebody in the 61 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: life coach like knows less than nothing about like what 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: they're talking about. Yeah, the nice thing about eavesdropping is 63 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: you can you can do it anywhere. You know, you 64 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: can go outside right now and eavesdrop. But people are 65 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: also always surprising me with just they're good. They want 66 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: to be good. Everything wants you know, like uh so, Yeah, 67 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: people underrated, especially this day and age, because I think 68 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: bad people win a lot too well, and so much 69 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: of the news is focused on the bad and not 70 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: taking into account that there's there are great things happen. 71 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: Good people are just quiet. They're just like, you know what, 72 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go home. This is party. This party 73 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: is not fun anymore. Yeah, that was a great answer. 74 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorites. We have gotten unconventional. Uh, 75 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: I don't agree with it. I think people are ship No, 76 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: uh No, that was great. Mon Alright, let's get into 77 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: format where we try and tell you what's going on 78 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: with the zeitgeist for trying to take a sample of 79 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: the ideas that are out there changing the world whether 80 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 1: you're looking or not. We talked about politics and news. 81 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: We also talked about movies and supermarket tabloids. Today I 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: think it's going to be a little bit news heavy because, uh, 83 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: the political world just does not quit. Um. And we're 84 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: gonna start out with this news that Facebook released yesterday 85 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: while everybody was talking about the indictments. Uh, Facebook was like, 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: oh yeah, a hundred and twenty six million Americans were 87 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: exposed to our ads that like, we're served by Russians 88 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: trying to influence the election, dred and twenty six million people. 89 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: So the population of the entire country is three three million, 90 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: So more than a third of these United States, as 91 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: it relates to our population, were exposed to Facebook ads, um, 92 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: which is pretty incredible. Uh you know, I I think 93 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: when the story first hit they were talking about that 94 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: it was like something like a hundred thousand dollars or 95 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: something like yeah, yeah, maybe thousand here and there. No, 96 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: this was a massive, global, fucking huge campaign to change minds. 97 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: And I mean we've talked before about how much we think, 98 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: you know, just being exposed to an idea can influence you, 99 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: whether you realize it or not. Um, you know, just 100 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: walking past the tabloids, I think, uh, you know, you 101 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: can you changes how you think about people, whether you 102 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: uh want Tip two or not. Well, that's why I 103 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: believe Queen Elizabeth actually killed Ron Goldman, right exactly. And 104 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: I think that's just the truth. But National inquire A 105 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: don't really rize producer and real sh um. But so 106 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: this is I mean, this is a this is a problem, 107 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: I would venture to say, And I think, Uh, Facebook 108 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: testified in front of Congress, along with Twitter and Google. 109 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: Is that what it's called, that's what the kid? Uh Yeah, 110 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: they all testified in front of Congress. But this was 111 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: kind of the number that jumped out to me. Yeah, 112 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: because it seemed like everything before was like two million 113 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: people saw something or only three million, and now to 114 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: know it's roughly a third of just over a third 115 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: of the country. That makes this whole thing even more 116 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: upsetting because I think, I don't know, I feel like 117 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: there needs to be more outrage over the fact that 118 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: Russia is trying to funk around and try and influence 119 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: the course of our elections and we're getting so caught 120 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: up in these other details. It just shows you what 121 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: this new, what the new sort of form of information 122 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: warfare is. And I think it's safe to say at 123 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: this point they were not just merely trying to they 124 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: actively fucked around and changed the courts of US history. Um. 125 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: And so Cheryl Sandberg has said of Facebook's responsibility. She 126 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: said Facebook hoped to set a new standard in transparency 127 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: in advertising, which sounds good, okay, But then she also said, Uh, 128 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: if those ads from the Russian accounts, the Russian hacker 129 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: accounts had been linked to legitimate Facebook accounts, most of 130 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: them would have been most of those ads would have 131 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: been allowed to run. Uh, which kind of gets into 132 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: a gray area of like, how do you stop this, 133 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: um without asking Facebook to invest billions of dollars into 134 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: control ling the media environment that they're providing for people, um, 135 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: which you know, the they have been actively messing with 136 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: the news feeds on people's Facebook pages for many years, 137 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: like when when Facebook first started, Cracked was huge on Facebook, 138 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: and then we but we weren't like spending money to 139 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: be featured on people's pages, and so slowly we just 140 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: got phased out because they were bringing in, uh, you know, 141 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: people who actually paid for placement. So they do have 142 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: some control over you know, what you see on Facebook. Uh. 143 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: But it's so it's weird to me that she's like, 144 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: we can't I think her argument she said the thing 145 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: about free expression. Is that when you allow free expression, 146 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: you allow free expression. Cool. Cool quote Cheryl Sandbury. Um, 147 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: But I guess her point being that there is a 148 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: blurry line between limit in political advertising and you know, 149 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: limiting people who are advertising. You know their views, but 150 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: it's you know, they might not be officially connected to 151 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: one campaign or another around an elect So if you're 152 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: if you're paying for advertising, why don't you just, like, 153 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: if you're gonna buy an ad on Facebook, make it 154 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: about goods and services, like don't you can't? Why don't 155 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: they just eliminate the ability to selling ads that's pushing 156 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: opinion or like a point of view, because that's that's 157 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: essentially when you start getting into like the political sphere. 158 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: Like if it's just like hey I'm a plumber and 159 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: here's my number. You got like a clog toilet, great 160 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: called Ralph. But when you start doing like hey, all 161 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: lives matter? Can I buy that ad? Like why don't 162 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: we just say no, like we don't. We don't do 163 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: ads like that. We can We'll do traditional ads to 164 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, promote your business or just anytime somebody tries 165 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: to advertise in that voice that you were just using. 166 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: I think that's a good indicator that they probably are 167 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: up to no good face book. I'd like to pull 168 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: out an hand for why are you calling us just 169 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: use our works? I'm not sure works. Um yeah, I 170 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: mean other countries have ways of, you know, dealing with this. France, 171 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: UH has a forty four hour time out ahead of 172 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: the polls opening and closing. Oh, I guess it's time 173 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: to to when the polls close on Sunday. Everybody votes 174 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: on Sunday, forty four hours before the polls closed, there's 175 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: a complete media blackout where uh, you know, TV news 176 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,119 Speaker 1: is not allowed to talk about or cover anything related 177 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: to the election and anything anything, so that's like completely 178 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: eliminated from their run of show. It's like we'll do sports, 179 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: we'll do the movies, we'll do whatever human human interest piece. 180 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: It's over and then boom. Yeah. I mean this past 181 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: UH French election that was between Macron and uh le 182 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: Pin Uh they uh like I think, I think Russia. 183 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: But Wiki leaks like leaked a bunch of Macrone's UH 184 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: emails and or something leaked a bunch of documents that 185 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: would have like hurt Macrone's chances. But they did it 186 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: within this forty four hour blackout, so it didn't affect 187 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: the election as much as people think it would have. 188 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: I feel like the way around Facebook, the way to 189 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: defeat Facebook is and and Twitter and all that and 190 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: Instagram and all that stuff is just to teach kids. 191 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: It's like it's like cigarettes. It's like, don't do like 192 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: it's not really it's bad for you, you know, and 193 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: it's not real and it's not important. And it's like 194 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: everybody is their own little ad agency now. And when 195 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: you say like transparent advertising, there's like the whole definition 196 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: of advertising is like you're trying to people to buy 197 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: something that they wouldn't buy without this modify their behave. 198 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, it goes far beyond politics 199 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: and and but yeah, Facebook, Instagram, it's a generation of 200 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: kids who are going to grow up really caring about 201 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: what strangers think about them. People that they'll never meet, 202 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: their thirty Twitter followers, whatever, people that will never exist 203 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: in their universe. Say, you know, shoot on one of 204 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: their comments and then they ship and then pretty soon 205 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: you're in this like angry situation a person doesn't even exist. Yeah, 206 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: there's nothing of value really, I mean, aside from the 207 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: connectivity of social media. Think that's great, but I think, yeah, 208 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: when it begins sort of influencing how you think or behave, 209 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: that's the slippery slope. And let's be real. Facebook is 210 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: just trash. I don't use it. I get in trouble 211 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: all the time because people are like, you didn't get 212 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: my I used to use it, and I know what 213 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: it's like to be like, Oh, I hope that you know. 214 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm I'm being a hypocrite here because I 215 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: know that I know the feeling of like, oh, that 216 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: girl I went to high school with likes my family. 217 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: But I guess it's like a little thrill, you know, 218 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: the absolute thrill of that. It's it's you know, it's 219 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: how are you supposed to like teach kids to be 220 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: like selfless? And everything is about like promoting yourself. Yeah, 221 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: because I look, I'm tired of looking at your fucking 222 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: baby or your fake as diamond engagement. Are you talking 223 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: to me? I'm talking to everybody. I'm just saying, like, 224 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: I like, my kid is precious. Dude, You're not You're 225 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: not you don't have You're not spamming your Facebook feed 226 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: because you're like a reason, you're like an actual human being. 227 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: You're not one of these people who lives for the likes, 228 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: and like, those are the people who are like kind 229 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: of like those are the most vulnerable people are the 230 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: people who live for the likes. I have noticed that 231 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: younger people, like people who are you know, maybe in 232 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: their twenties right now, are almost like more aware of 233 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: Facebook as like a vice because they've like had it 234 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: their whole life. Like I have like younger cousins or 235 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: younger friends who like almost all of them have been like, yeah, 236 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: I quit Facebook for the last two years, so I don't. 237 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like maybe just having always 238 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: had that, they're like, keeps them a little less like 239 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: blind to it. They're like aware that it's kind of yeah, yeah, 240 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: I hope. I mean I see hoping this like younger, 241 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm forty two now, and I still 242 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the times I feel like I'm a kid. 243 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: And then I you know, I used to live around 244 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: the corner from like the Supreme Store. I used to well, 245 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: I used to eavesdrop on these kids, and uh, you 246 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: know what they're like. The kids are all the kids 247 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: are all right, Like, you know, cigarettes are are not cool. Anymore. 248 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: I feel like getting wasted isn't cool anymore. These are 249 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: like young kids who you're like, turn down that music, 250 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: But you're like, these kids are all right, they're smart. 251 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: They're the same as every generation. Yeah, the thing that's 252 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: different is that technology moves so much faster now than 253 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: it ever has. I do think a turn is coming 254 00:14:54,160 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: where these uh huge monopolies like Facebook and Goo Google 255 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: are at least viewed with more skepticism than we have 256 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: viewed them up to this point. I think we the 257 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: way we viewed them up to this point is remarkably uh, 258 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: sort of oblivious to the fact that they're somewhat evil. 259 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: And I think once kids start viewing them as less 260 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: cool and they become like less profitable, then like we 261 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: can't just count on Facebook to do the monitoring themselves. 262 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna need either the market to change or for 263 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: the government to step in. But yeah, it's like it's 264 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: a it is a big change because it's like that. 265 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: It's like with cigarettes, like realizing the Marlborough man died 266 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: because he smokes cigarettes, right, and you're like, oh, ship, 267 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna go to a quick break and 268 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: we'll be back after this and we're back. Um, so 269 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: we did wanna talk a little bit about the fallout 270 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: from the indictments. Also the Papadopolis, the Papadopoli, the story 271 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: about UM kind of went on flew under the radar 272 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: a little bit and for the first twenty four hours, 273 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: and now people are like, oh, yeah, that's the kind 274 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: of undeniably crazy important one. Um. But let's talk about 275 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: how this story is being covered. Uh on right wing media. Uh, 276 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: they're basically saying like it's a nothing burger because this 277 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: all took place in the past. But like read the indictment. 278 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: The indictment itself talks about how Manaforts crime was from 279 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: approximately two thousand six through at least two thousand sixteen. 280 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: Maniport and Gates laundered the money through scores of United 281 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: States and foreign corporations. So but I think again, what 282 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: people have to understand, even though the charges don't have 283 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: anything to do with the Chump campaign, it's clearly a 284 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: setup move because I don't think Paul Manafort is down 285 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: to die in jail, right, So by having by having 286 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: these charges, they're going to course cooperation. And we talked 287 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: about how the fact that Trump hired somebody who was 288 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: in the business of getting a Ukrainian puppet for putin 289 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: UH into power is pretty damning. And something I heard 290 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: today that's also crazy or interesting is that Manifort, like 291 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: Russian propaganda, has a history of basically doing illegal deals 292 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: with people who they then like have leverage over so 293 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: that they can then kind of funk with them. They 294 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: had leverage that had essentially comproment on Manifort going into 295 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: his relationship with Trump's uh that that's another sort of 296 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: angle to the Manifort thing, is that he had this, uh, 297 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: illegal history with the Kremlin. But you know, like I said, 298 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 1: the people who have been to sending Trump and the 299 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: idea that there has been no collusion, there's nothing to 300 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: see here, they are fucking spinning out because these some 301 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: of these like distraction stories they're trying to push, so 302 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: bush League and so like empty Oh my god. So 303 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean last week was the Steel dossier, right was 304 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: trying to discredit that, which is just basically opposition research. 305 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: But Sarah Hukabe Sanders was like, no, we need to 306 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: talk about that because they paid for they paid millions 307 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: of dollars for fake information to try and smear the president. 308 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: Make it look bad. Okay, so let's first address the 309 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: idea that the Democrats were even behind this dossier that 310 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: is patently false. Paul Singer, who is a very wealthy 311 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: GOP donor, uh, actually is the one who paid for 312 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: the dossier or this research to even occur because at 313 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: the time he was backing Marco Rubio as a candidate, 314 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: and then once Trump got the nomination, he was like, fine, 315 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: it is what it is and stopped funding it. And 316 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: that's when the Democrats stepped into continue this investigation because 317 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: the stuff inside of it was pretty fucking disturbing. Okay, Next, 318 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: why are you gonna pay millions of dollars for fake information? 319 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: It's called lying and you can do that for free. 320 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: So funk out of here with that. The other one is, oh, 321 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: Mueller should resign, he's too close to the FBI and 322 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: the FBI may have been influenced by the steal Dosia. Again, 323 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: that really doesn't hold much water. Um, there's the uh, 324 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: the uranium one deal, which is what they really love 325 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: right now because they get to talk about Hillary Clinton. 326 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean, just really quickly. Hillary Clinton could not have 327 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: approved or vetoed this sale. It required explain what the 328 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: uranium ranium one deals. Essentially that like Hillary Clinton received 329 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: money from someone who was involved with this company Uranium one. 330 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: The theory, yeah, that she received money from this company, 331 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: Russian company Uranium one, who basically wanted to mine like 332 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: of our uranium deposits for nuclear energy. This is not 333 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: weaponized uranium. This is this is purely for straight up 334 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 1: energy uranium UM. And so basically they're trying to say 335 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: it was like a whole pay for play scheme, but like, 336 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: let's be real, the person like that they're trying to say, 337 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: gave all gave her all this money. He divested from 338 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: the company years before. These sales have to be approved 339 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: by many departments, including the Department of Defense, uh, you know, 340 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: the State Department. And so they all agreed that this 341 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: deal was fine. It had no national security implications. Um. 342 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: And also this story, like the timings of the donations 343 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: don't match up. And the story was like came out 344 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: of a book that it like it's called Clinton Cash, 345 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: I think, and that was like funded by like a 346 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: bright part think tank. So and it's like just a 347 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: non story, just something to bring up again to try 348 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: and just conjure up though, Oh my god, the Hillary thing. 349 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: And again Sarah Huckabee Sanders up there on the podium 350 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: when she's having to take fire for these really shitty 351 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: looking indictments, she's like, well, the real story is is 352 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: this uranium one deal. I don't know why they're not 353 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: looking like at that. And we've talked about this. Let's 354 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: assume that. Let's just even assume that these lives are real. 355 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: That doesn't change the fact that what's going on with 356 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: the campaign is absolutely happening and is absolutely real. Also, 357 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: the Steel docier and a single thing has been debunked. 358 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: They've only been able to prove things, so it's to 359 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: say that it's like mendacious or spurious. Right when the 360 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: Steel dossier was first introduced, they were like, nothing in 361 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: there is true, it's all bullshit. And then slowly but surely, 362 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: like different details are being proven accurate, including some of 363 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: the stuff that came out in the indictment. Uh so 364 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 1: so and then so then the last one is they 365 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: were trying to just distance themselves from these people, saying like, oh, 366 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, we don't know Paul Manafort, and I 367 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: mean that was before and he didn't really do much. 368 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: And with George Papadopolis who really, like, let's not forget 369 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: this guy basically played guilty and confessed to colluding with Russia, 370 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: maybe to not the extent of what we want to 371 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: say is colluding, but he was the one interacting with 372 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: Russian agents for the sake of getting dirt on Hill 373 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: for the camp. So Papadopoulos was this thirty year old 374 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: guy who, uh was not like a super impressive professional 375 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: when it came to being like a DC operator. His 376 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: LinkedIn page at the time that he was hired by 377 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign featured his work with a model u 378 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: n in high school. Like, so it's he's that's low, right. 379 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: So the Trump administration is now trying to argue that, see, 380 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: he was just like a volunteer who went out and 381 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: got coffee for everybody. Uh and I don't know, I 382 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: think I think we have clips, so then making that claim, right. 383 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: So the first clip is when Sarah Huckaby Sanders is 384 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: asked at the briefing, Hey, what the fun is going 385 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: on with this Papidopoulos guy. This is her distancing themselves 386 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: or trying to mitigate what his actual role was. This 387 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: individual was the member of a volunteer advisory council that 388 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: at one time over the course of a year. Uh, 389 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: and he was part of a list that was read 390 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: out in the Washington Post. I'd hardly call that some 391 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: sort of regular advisor or as you want to, you know, 392 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: push that he's like a senior member of the staff. 393 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: It's he was not paid by the campaign. He was 394 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: a volunteer on a again, a council that meant once, Okay, 395 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: first of all, let's hold up, Sarah, hold up, because 396 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: you look mad nervous up there, and you can hear 397 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: in your voice, Uh, this wha po list, this list 398 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: that was read out, is that she puts it impersonally. Yeah. 399 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: When he was was then candidate Trump, they were saying like, oh, 400 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: you got you got a little foreign policy team going together, 401 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: Like you've got some people advising you on what your 402 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: foreign policy will be as president. And he's like, yeah, 403 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: I've got some great people. So it was Trump in 404 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: an interview with the Washington Post trying to tell explain 405 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: to them who he was going to hire for his 406 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: uh foreign policy advisory team. Walle Ferris, who you probably 407 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: know PhD advisor to the as A Representatives Caucus, and um, 408 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: he's a counter terrorism expert Carter Page, PhD. George Papadopolis, 409 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: he's an oil and energy excellent guy, excellent guy, excellent guy. 410 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: I would be insulted if I were a man of 411 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Fort or Papadopoulos or who's the other guy, Gates, because 412 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: I know that cops when the their first round of 413 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: arrests are always based on the fact that they think 414 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: you're a pussy and not gangster. There go. You know, 415 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: you gotta get the little weak mice. You don't just 416 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: arrest John Gotti. You know my definition. In the first round, 417 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: they're already like this guy is he's gonna get scared easily. 418 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: He First of all, he's in a photo of this 419 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: foreign policy advisory board they want to say, volunteer thing 420 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: with Trump at the table, with Jeff Sessions at the table, 421 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: who basically that would have been his advisor essentially um 422 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: and then for you know, if you remember Jeff Sessions 423 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: when he was confirmed, Like Al Franken was like, do 424 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: you have any knowledge of anyone from the campaign trying 425 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: to communicate with Russians? He was like, no, not that 426 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: I can recall. Meanwhile, directly four Sessions, well, I mean 427 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if he worked for him, but like 428 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: that for like that, Sessions was heading that up, so 429 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: basically and he was on that. That's in his purview 430 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: basically as being on that council. But yeah, to say 431 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: that he doesn't know that photograph and even in the 432 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: indictment is the meeting where Papadappa was brought up that 433 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: he had an end with the Russians. So I mean, 434 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: the whole thing stinks like shit. Well, I will also 435 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: say the second thing I gleaned from this is Sarah 436 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: Huckabee Sanders watching her give that speech. I like her, 437 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: uh taste in fashion. I think that string of pearls 438 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: and that sweater she's wearing it's probably cash. Yeah, it's 439 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: like a lilac or something. It's it looked like a 440 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: really beautiful sweater and a nice choice and jewelry classic 441 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: probably from Cardia. And she's she's very good at her job. 442 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: Like the way that she described the Washington Post thing, 443 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: was it Washington Post list that was read out? So 444 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: that makes it impersonal, Like the it makes it almost 445 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: sound as if the Washington Post read a list that 446 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: this guy's name was on. No, the President, when asked 447 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: by the Washington pointed who yeah, the when asked by 448 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: the Washington Post, who you are going to have advised, 449 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: you gave this guy's name like that was maybe the 450 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 1: second or third fourth name that Yeah. Uh so yeah, 451 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: he and I'm guessing he wouldn't call out the coffee boy. 452 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: But just I just did a little research and I 453 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: just realized that those uh those were fake pearls. No god, 454 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: real sah I tried. I do think that, I mean, 455 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: where is there for Trump to go from here? I don't. 456 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be able to kind 457 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: of sit back and uh let this go on for 458 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: too much longer. I think he's probably gonna fire Muller 459 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: if because can he? I mean I was thinking I 460 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: read I I heard something about that. Can he? He 461 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: cannot do that. He can, But but I don't think 462 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: even when people, you can't fire the cop that's investigating 463 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: you like it just and we let him get away 464 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: with that, but it wasn't it wasn't a grand jury investigating, 465 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: So like you can't. The president is not above the law. 466 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: And that's a I don't think anybody in Congress can 467 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: support that's the problem because I think when and honestly, 468 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, uh Lindsay Graham, Senator from South Carolina. 469 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: When they asked him, they're like, you know, what would 470 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: they response, like, what do you think would happen if 471 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: Trump actually fired Mueller? And he's like, he quote he said, 472 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: there will be wholly hell to pay if he does that. 473 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: And he's a Republican senator, so they even know to 474 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: defend that would just be just a totally it would 475 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: just it would kill your career, like you couldn't you 476 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: can't defend that. It's really like, at what point do 477 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: these people that enable Trump? Frank is a monster in 478 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: the little baby so he is just a pathological narcissist 479 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: and he is what he is, and but it's the 480 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: people that are enabling him in a way that are worse. 481 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: It's it's it's like, at what point are you like, no, 482 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: this is insane? And at what point are you like, 483 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: my legacy is going to be exactly horrible thing? And 484 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: that's the point they're slowly approaching as they they're all 485 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: in the convertible together, approaching the cliff's edge, being like 486 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: when are we gonna get off this thing? Or are 487 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 1: we betting? Are we gonna bet to find that this 488 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: car will fly once we hit the edge of the cliff, 489 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: and we'll just fly off into it. Well, if you 490 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: worked for Trump, wouldn't you and you were part of 491 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: part of his cabinet, you were one of his advisors, 492 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: would you really want to protect him? Like working for 493 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: him as fucking hell and utter chaos, Like wouldn't you 494 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: just be like, yeah, dude, just fire meal or like whatever, 495 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: just so that he's gone and you can work or 496 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: pents then just when you're a Jets fan and you're like, 497 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: we lose all the games. Yeah, yeah, I mean I 498 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: will also say this, I I think the genius thing 499 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: about Trump, and this is just coming from like human psychology, 500 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: is that like he has made it so that he 501 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: is so crazy that everything that the other side says 502 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: is reactive and angry. It's so easy to say, like 503 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: this is wrong, this guy's evil, this guy is bad, 504 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: and that is an emotional angry response. And I and 505 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: I and look, I'm I'm politically I'm very very very liberal. 506 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm probably I'm like left of Obama. No, those are 507 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 1: that's just my circulatory problem. No, uh, the um I 508 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: but I wish I heard more of the other side, 509 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: like Okay, not just this guy sucks, but here's what 510 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: we wanted, here's the hope, here's here, you know, like 511 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: we like forget okay, I was on our own paper, 512 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: like what do we have to offer? What if it 513 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: was this? What if we did this? And I hear 514 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: and it gets and there probably is that, but it 515 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: just gets buried beneath the like it's just complaining about 516 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: what you should complain about. But it becomes too much 517 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: complaining and less like Okay, he does that, but this 518 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: is what we're going to do. This is the guy 519 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna save us Democrats. Look, who is that person? 520 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: We'll see? I mean that that's that's a that's a 521 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: that's a much bigger question. But I think the Democrats 522 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: just have a messaging problem because they're looking at this 523 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: Mueller thing is like the thing that's going to save 524 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: the country for the moment, rather than kind of like 525 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: looking ahead of like how will we actually rest power 526 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: back after this and begin to actually create some movement 527 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: and directions. So I see Mueller as like Rob Stark 528 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: in uh early Game of Thrones. It's like Jeoffrey's doing 529 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: all the ship like Rob's coming and then hopefully hopefully, 530 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: but then hopefully Mueller won't have a red wedding very well. 531 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: Could be so, yeah, the red wedding will be when 532 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: Trump fires him or something. Yeah, but like, luckily there 533 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: are investigations. Yeah, in like New York and Virginia, the 534 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: attorney generals there are also building cases against these people. 535 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: So even if Trump, if if let's say he pulls 536 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: a plug on Mueller or tries to pardon people, there 537 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: are state investigations going on. So if you're charged by 538 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: the state, the president can't pardon you. So there he 539 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: Mueller is definitely playing as the Donald Trump supports love 540 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: to say. He's playing four D chess right now and 541 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: has created a few trap doors, so we'll see. I 542 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: mean again, we don't know the extent of any of 543 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: these investigations quite yet, but it seems like Mueller is 544 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: pretty so the speculations that he's doing that he's building 545 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: up these state departments because they could prosecute if he 546 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: was fired. Essentially, yeah, well, if these attorney generals have 547 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: the same information, they'll be like, well, if we can't 548 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: charge him federally, then we can. These are crimes within 549 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: our state. And again, if you're charged with like these 550 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: kinds like money laundering and other stuff like you know, 551 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: it's saying Trump like, look, either way, you're probably things 552 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: will come to light. So it's up to you how 553 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: you want to do it. Right, all right, we're gonna 554 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: go to a quick break and we'll be right back. 555 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: And we're back. So we're kind of running out of time. 556 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: We wanted to talk about General John Kelly. Ak Uh, 557 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: the artist formerly known as the Good One who is 558 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: no longer the Good One, went on Laura Ingram's show 559 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:39,479 Speaker 1: on Fox News and Uh defended Robert E. Lee called 560 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: said the Civil War was about a failure to compromise. Uh. 561 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: Tana Hassi Coates had an amazing Twitter thread that you 562 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: should go read right now. That's your homework assignment. You 563 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: can actually just on my Twitter, I retweeted the thread 564 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O'Brian, or you can go directly to the 565 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: source at Tana Hesse coats T A and E H 566 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: I s I coats with an E C O A 567 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: T E S. But we will talk about it tomorrow. Uh, 568 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: We're just running short on time, so we're just gonna 569 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: go out talking about the probably the stupidest decision that 570 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: anyone's made with regards to travel and uh, cocaine use 571 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: in in the past, I'd say a couple of weeks 572 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: at least. Uh. Yeah, it's it's been a while. There's 573 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: so many um. But so the the kid who plays 574 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: Will's older brother one on a Rider's elder son, Jonathan, 575 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: who who I think is perfectly pulls off that like 576 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: unwashed kid who kind of smells bad in school like look, 577 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: he has that sort of uh like always just a 578 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: glaze of you know, night sweat on him. And uh 579 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: he apparently was earning that look because from cocaine use. 580 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: Possibly he was arrested at l a X with cocaine 581 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: uh flying in from Heathrow. Apparently he is a British, 582 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: a British as we call him, uh and mile. As 583 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: you were pointing out that this was a poor come on, 584 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: Charlie Heaton, Charlie heat that's his name. He okay, yes, 585 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: he basically I think that what they found were traces 586 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: of the drug and he admitted to using cocaine or whatever. 587 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly how much they found, but come on, 588 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: my man, you're bringing cocaine to America. Yeah, you do. 589 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: You bring sand to the beach. The fucking cocaine is 590 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: here in Los Ange. If anything, you go home with 591 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: the cocaine from here. But I'm just yeah, he because 592 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: like he was definitely method acting to get that look 593 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: of like a strong out dude. Have not slept in weeks. Well, 594 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: because that whole family, like they did a good job 595 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: casting it. Like from Wenona why Ronona writer to the 596 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: kid who plays Will to this guy, they all look 597 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: like like they are like dealing with some ship. And 598 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: this season has been interesting because like essentially it's funny 599 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: because at the end, you know, like Will went missing 600 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: and then he came back, and like now people are 601 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: like they're like, what's wrong with Will? It's like, motherfucker, 602 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: this dude has PTSD from being like trapped in another dimension. Right, 603 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't even know how you explained that to another 604 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 1: twelve year old kid, and like what's wrong with Will? 605 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: Because like you heard the upside down, that's right, twelve 606 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: years old deal with this ship. That's why I'm zombie boy. 607 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: And again I liked just to say I don't want 608 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: to spell anything. I'd like the season so far. I'm 609 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: a little mad at Dustin's character. He's making some decisions 610 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: Dustin and his witch kid. Dustin is the curly hair 611 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: kid who had the missing he's got teeth now, but 612 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: now he's he's back in it. He's got a nice 613 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: grill on. Uh. And you know, I'm it's it's it's 614 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: getting it's getting more interesting. They're revealing more, we're starting 615 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: to understand more. So I don't without without spoiling anything, 616 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave it there. But yes, but I'm not, 617 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: and I'm only in like episode seven. I'm just like, 618 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: there's he's doing that thing where like you you're getting 619 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: mad at the character because they're making decisions that like 620 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: even if you were writing the show, you're like, this 621 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: isn't what the character would do. And also like in 622 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: terms of the narrative of the show, you're like, this 623 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: is not you Just yeah, anyway, that's something that's on 624 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: your mind as a show runner or writer. Read like 625 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: this is let's avoid having a character behave in a 626 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: way that nobody would ever behave. Yeah, that's a that's 627 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: a yeah, that's always a big concern, like what why 628 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: would he do that? Like I remember I tried to 629 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: watch American Horror Story and like with a woman who 630 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: lived next door to the family the first season, they 631 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: would like turn the man guy would like turn around 632 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: in his house and be like, oh yeah, you gotta 633 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: stop creeping up on me like that, and it's like, 634 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: you're get it out of my house. That's the first 635 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: thing you that you look scared like you should be 636 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: like throwing her out of your house and be like, 637 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: don't ever coming back. You can't do that, Like I 638 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: don't care who you even if you're not creepy as 639 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 1: ship like you are, you can't be in my house. 640 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 1: You can't just want yeah, okay, how can I help you? 641 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: So No, sometimes you apologize I'm sorry, sorry, you just 642 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: scared me. You're in my fucking hallway. We're ignoring a 643 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: really big thing. Read agnew. Thank you so much for 644 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: coming on. Man, this was a lot of fun. Thank you, 645 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: it was fun. Thanks for having me. Where can people 646 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: follow you? They can't you if they want to call 647 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: me my phone number, Uh for me, guys, please just 648 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: just follow me, just philosophically. I'm not gonna plug anything. 649 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: Just follow my way. All those times that you thought 650 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: Miles had abandoned you, it was actually that Miles was 651 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: carrying you on the beach. That's why there was once 652 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 1: exactly you can follow You can follow me at Jack 653 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: Underscore O, B R I E n uh, And you 654 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: can follow us at the Daily Zeitgeist on both Facebook 655 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 1: and Instagram Daily Zeitgeist just daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. Uh. 656 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: You can find the footnotes for the Daily Zeigeist on 657 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: daily zegeist dot com. We put up links to all 658 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: the articles that we are pulling our facts from. UM 659 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: and yeah, we're gonna go out on one of my 660 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: favorite passive aggressive questions from a reporter of of the 661 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: past couple of weeks. Uh, play us out, Nick, did 662 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: you remember anything about that meeting? Your ap poping out 663 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: was given that he talked about his gread memory. I 664 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: don't believe old keep bern bo shots fired. I bet 665 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: she smells really good. I can imagine that sweater smelling 666 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: really good.