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Speaker 3: However, we have spent the past week at Indian Wells

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Speaker 1: To start the season of season three of The Racket Magazine.

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Speaker 5: Sam Stosa, Thanks doves. Yeah, you guys.

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Speaker 3: We are in an unprecedented time. This is some weird

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that happened crazy Australia. We had one Brisbane, we

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Speaker 5: You know about at all. That's result for sure now.

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Speaker 1: Now, which is he's still underfitted. He's going to be

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Speaker 4: You basically have to do what everyone's expected of you,

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Speaker 2: in the morning all night, yes, because.

439
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,119
Speaker 1: I couldn't go to sleep because it went for nine hours.

440
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,680
Speaker 6: Well, now that I'm sitting here now, you're really sad

441
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:13,440
Speaker 6: for Australia.

442
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,400
Speaker 3: Well, I just feel like Australia has had so much glory,

443
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, but not.

444
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,320
Speaker 1: For a long time friendship on the Fed Cup.

445
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,679
Speaker 2: Way way sooner than what Australia had last year in

446
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 2: the finals nineteen ninety three.

447
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 4: Oh stop it.

448
00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,919
Speaker 1: That's how old it's been. That's how long it's been you.

449
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,960
Speaker 2: I was song, no, no, I know, I was going

450
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:39,960
Speaker 2: way back. Liz Smiley, Nicole Bradkey, me and Michelle Jaggard

451
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,400
Speaker 2: I think was on that team. It was a long

452
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 2: time ago. I'm sorry we played Spain on clay in

453
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:46,119
Speaker 2: the final.

454
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 1: Good luck in where in Germany.

455
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 2: We've beat Germany in the Semis and then we lost

456
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 2: to Spain in the final with Conchita and Rancher, like

457
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 2: we had any shows in the.

458
00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,239
Speaker 1: Chance in that. But anyway, let's not basically, you have

459
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 1: to pull for us next time. Okay. So I'm on here,

460
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:03,919
Speaker 1: I'm pulling for you now.

461
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 3: I just want some of your old fed cup clothing

462
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 3: so I can wear it when you guys, I've seen it.

463
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,120
Speaker 1: It's pretty ugly, if we're honest, your clothes very ugly.

464
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 4: But we're lucky now we actually get women's fit track suits.

465
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to get men's ones.

466
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 4: Get into us.

467
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to do my apartment. You can try

468
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 1: it on when you get home. I've seen it. You

469
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 1: asked me if I wanted to number twenty five? What

470
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 1: number are you?

471
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,119
Speaker 4: Thirty six?

472
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 2: It's the number of the Yeah, all.

473
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 1: Right, So let's not talk about the year before, Okay,

474
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,679
Speaker 1: back to this year, back to the season.

475
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 2: So ash she had a great Australia.

476
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Speaker 1: I mean really she did.

477
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 3: I mean people who we talked to said that they

478
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 3: knew Kenon was going to win the tournament. I feel

479
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 3: like that's the thing a lot of people say after

480
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 3: the fact, But do you you know, were you watching

481
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 3: that thinking like, oh, yeah, this is this girl's time

482
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 3: has come.

483
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 4: I thought Canon very likely could beat Ash in that match,

484
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 4: because I'd watched Ash play a couple of her matches

485
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 4: leading in to that, and she played well. And I mean,

486
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 4: anyone who's making it to the Semis, you can't say

487
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 4: they're playing poorly. Sure, but I didn't think she was

488
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 4: probably playing well enough. And you know, Kenon, I just

489
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 4: think was not as well known, even though she was

490
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 4: still fourteen in the world or something, not as well

491
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 4: known to people, so they kind of downplayed who she was.

492
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 4: And yeah, she took it to Ash, and Ash had

493
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 4: lots of opportunities and set points in both sets, but

494
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 4: didn't do enough in those moments, whereas Kenan was like,

495
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 4: this is my time can.

496
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 3: Be Sara and Williams more than eight months ago on

497
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 3: a Grand Slam like that, people don't have a real

498
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 3: sense of contact.

499
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 4: To play her, and she hadn't won a Slam, she

500
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 4: hadn't done all those things, so all of a sudden

501
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 4: she was like the complete underdog.

502
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 2: I was definitely one of those people that jumped on

503
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 2: the bandwagon when she played Coco and everyone was like

504
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 2: thinking Coco and this was great, you know, And I said,

505
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: let me tell you something, if there's one person that's

506
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 2: not afraid to play Coco and take that pressure, because

507
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 2: that was huge amounts of pressure for her, you know,

508
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: to play someone a whole seven years younger than her

509
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 2: from the same country. She's like, wait a second, I'm

510
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: twenty one, Like I'm the new one, right, you know.

511
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, if anyone can handle the pressure and then

512
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 2: run with it, it was Kenon because the you know,

513
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 2: the crowds might not have known Kenon, but all of

514
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 2: us on.

515
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 4: The tour knew what she was about absolutely.

516
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 2: And I mean Sam had to play her in you know,

517
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 2: in Guangeou in the finals last year in China, and

518
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 2: we saw her in moments that were tough and she

519
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: could have like just given up.

520
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: And she was up a set, not a brain, not.

521
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 4: A break, but a set in five four she was serving,

522
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 4: so it was close, ye, But then when she won

523
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 4: that second set tie break, you just were like, She's

524
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 4: she found another I.

525
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 5: Didn't play poorly, she played.

526
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 2: Well to win, but I think the underlying tone was

527
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: It was that this is a kid that doesn't quit.

528
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: And even when she could have quit, like she admires Sam,

529
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: she was back to her.

530
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 2: She lost to her the last time she played her,

531
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: it probably wouldn't be mentally a bad loss for her emotionally,

532
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 2: like she just refused to lose, you know, And you

533
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: learn a lot about watching a young player in those moments.

534
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 2: And I just thought, once Australia started, I'm like, if

535
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: this kid gets a chance, she will take it. She

536
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: will take it. And she got the chance. Will she

537
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: do it again? I don't know, but if she gets

538
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 2: a chance to do it again, she won't be a proberary.

539
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: And that's what you love. I mean, even if you

540
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: look at this train open that two our game was

541
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: indicative of her being down Love forty, I believe to

542
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: lose go down a break in the third set against

543
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: a very good server in mcgruthor who's won two Grand Slams.

544
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 4: I haven't been there before in that match.

545
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 2: Not me can prior And I just said when she

546
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: won that game that she hit what from Love forty

547
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 2: she hit I believe four or five winners to win

548
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: the game, Like that's the kid you want playing it's

549
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 2: just like and then she throws the ball down and

550
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: walks to a chair like come on, Yeah, she's not

551
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: overwhelmed by anything. And that's what impressed me, and that's

552
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: why I was so ready to put like the money

553
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: on her to.

554
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: Win that tournament. Did you put money? I'm not allowed

555
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: to bet.

556
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 2: On tennis, but if I was telling anyone, that's my girl,

557
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 2: putting my money on her, she's and she's a great kid.

558
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: Sure.

559
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 3: Now that I've got to most of the players, it's

560
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 3: really hard to root for against any of them. What

561
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 3: I liked about Mugroots a lot, and she's had a

562
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 3: very good year so far, is just it seems, you know,

563
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 3: the ones that feel particularly resonant are when you see

564
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: somebody with so much talent and so much ability and

565
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 3: then they have a slump and they have you know,

566
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: almost you know, a crisis in confidence. And you know,

567
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 3: in my own tennis career brief as though it was,

568
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: you know, you just understand how it's hard not to empathize.

569
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 3: And when then when they're sort of back on the upswing,

570
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, what do you know about that?

571
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: Sam? Yeah, and what do you talk about that? A

572
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: little bit like you know.

573
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 2: Talk about that a little bit, because I don't think

574
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 2: people we talked about it was set Lana as well

575
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: and her answers to certain things.

576
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: And I'm interested to.

577
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 2: Know, like how people at home have no idea. They

578
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: see you, they see your career, they see what you've done,

579
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: and they're like, hey, can you ever have a crisis

580
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: of confidence in any time in your career? But it

581
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: happens to everybody. It's kind of the one thing I

582
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: do tell you the sam look down the other end.

583
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: She may be feeling what you're feeling, you know, And

584
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: it's hard to express to people that don't understand what

585
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: it's like to have to put yourself on the line

586
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: emotionally every.

587
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: Single day to go and win a match. Like how

588
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 1: difficult it.

589
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 4: Is, Well, it is difficult because everything that we do

590
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 4: it can be seen. And we have a bad day,

591
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: people see it. Someone wants to have a bad day

592
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: in the office, Well, no, one's really good to know

593
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 4: you can slack off and it doesn't matter.

594
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 5: And everyone's got an opinion about us as well.

595
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, it's just relentless and it's always there.

596
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 4: And again, no matter where you're ranked, you feel it

597
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 4: and because there's different things writing on results your whole career,

598
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 4: and yeah, I mean I think that's just what it's

599
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 4: the likes of a Serena and you know Roger, like

600
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 4: all of them, who can win multiple slams throughout such

601
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 4: a long period of time is incredible and it's I mean,

602
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 4: people obviously have huge respect for those guys, but that's

603
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: every single bit of it because it is to be

604
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 4: able to sustain that for that period and other players too. Sure,

605
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: I'll look at streets of her, she's had a fantastic

606
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: career like that.

607
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: What she's been out there for her whole career exactly

608
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,239
Speaker 3: grand slams and doubles.

609
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 5: And it's not easy. But everyone has a problem.

610
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 4: Everyone has probably had some sort of down slump and

611
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 4: then made their way back. And I think sometimes making

612
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: it on the way back is certainly isn't any easier

613
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 4: because you know exactly what you need to do to

614
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 4: get there, and then all of a sudden you've got

615
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 4: like another bunch of eighteen year olds trying to figure

616
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 4: it out, So it doesn't get any easier.

617
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 3: Sobina was her favorite story of mine because of what

618
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 3: we just talked about, Because of Killeman and Jerrold felt

619
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 3: like she found some sort of new level. Is there

620
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: any Are there any players like that for you, you know,

621
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 3: outside of your own experience, in your own match, in

622
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: your own head, in your own journey, where you look

623
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: around and you're like, oh, wow, they're really having an

624
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: interesting moment, are there?

625
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: I wonder what is going on with them? Like do

626
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: you kind of sure?

627
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 4: I mean, you can pick up little things all the time,

628
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: how they're talking to their coach, where, how they're playing,

629
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: are they you know, entering tournaments, are they're going deep?

630
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 4: You can just see it sometimes in the way people

631
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 4: walk around and you're like, oh, geez, they're struggling at

632
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: the moment, what the hell's up with them?

633
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 5: Or you just don't know, and we.

634
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: See them behind the scenes crying or you.

635
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: Know, and everything that happens to us off the court

636
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: too can greatly affect you on.

637
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 5: And I mean.

638
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 4: I had no idea that Ostapenko's father passed away earlier

639
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 4: in the year, Like that's just something nobody ever wants

640
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 4: to deal with, and unfortunately we all do it somestage.

641
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: I had no idea, and you know, things as terrible

642
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 4: as that can happen to someone, but yet you don't

643
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 4: know until after the fact.

644
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll give you an example.

645
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: Like last year, ironically, at the US Open arena, Saberlenka

646
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: won the doubles and I saw her in the locker

647
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: room and we just had a nice conversation about some stuff.

648
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: And actually it was prior to the conversation was prior

649
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: to her winning the US.

650
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: Open doubles, and she was just struggling in her singles.

651
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: So she went through like the last six months of

652
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: last year she really sucked, like for her standards what

653
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: we thought was going to happen, Like she was maybe

654
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: a game away from winning the US Open herself the

655
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: year before, totally, that match with Osaka was the best

656
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: match everybody, and she was playing unbeliever. Remember that summer,

657
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: she was beating everybody, match points against her, beating everyone,

658
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: and then she lost that match to us Osaka, and

659
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: Osaka then wins the US Open. There's no there in

660
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: my mind, if she'd won that match against As, there's

661
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: no saying that she could have won the US.

662
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: Open because she had that kind of ballsy attitude.

663
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: She was new, and then she had this huge slump

664
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: after that and really struggled last year like a lot

665
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: because all of a sudden expectation right and I s

666
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: bumped into it the USIPE and she was just like, oh,

667
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: I just don't know, Like I'm just I don't know

668
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: what I'm doing anymore.

669
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: It just sucked, like she was just so down.

670
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: In the dance like which it's also easy as a

671
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 4: player to absolutely catestrophize what is going on because if

672
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 4: you took a step back, of course you know it's

673
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 4: not that bad, you.

674
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 5: Know, in that moment it seems.

675
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: But for Redom, I mean it was interesting better at

676
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: that you must have. That's a skill I'm sure you've gotten, You've.

677
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 5: Honned, yes, but nothing.

678
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: You still need help from people around you to realize that.

679
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 5: Like Stubsy's always telling me, come.

680
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: On, you can still hit you know this and that

681
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 4: exactly the same as you did and ye talk to

682
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 4: your sports like and yeah, you know it's still sometimes

683
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 4: you need those little reminders. But I think you kind

684
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 4: of snap out a bit quicker and can see things

685
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 4: a bit clearer faster. But it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

686
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: It happens. Yeah, you just can get out of it.

687
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, just like it was about a four

688
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: month period for her where she was not doing well,

689
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: you know, and there are sophomore slumps.

690
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: Sure, it happens to a lot of players. I can

691
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: go into many, you.

692
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: Know, like they had the year of their lives and

693
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: Guini Bouchard and never to be seen again kind of thing,

694
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: you know, and Sabilenka, I.

695
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,239
Speaker 1: Think one ended up winning a couple of autonoments at

696
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: the end of the year. Want to see her and

697
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: I say, I guess that didn't last so long. No,

698
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but but you know you and

699
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: then she just won and now she's like, now she's

700
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 1: totally back. Yeah, I mean you saw her how important

701
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: it was because it felt like to your point, like

702
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: oh shit, I can hit the ball again. Yeah I'm back.

703
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm not you know.

704
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: It really takes like maybe winning one match where you're like, oh,

705
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: I'm fine, what.

706
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: Was I worried about? But it happens to everybody.

707
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: So that's that's why the Arenas and the Rogers and Novaks,

708
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: that's why the respect is there for them for such

709
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: a because it's not about what they've done, it's the

710
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: sustainability of what they've been able to do over ten fifteen.

711
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: Absence of these slumps that we just it's just the

712
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: absence of this trough in the level of just maintaining high.

713
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so well we got to go to

714
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: the guys then in Australia and what Novak did and

715
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: what he's now doing.

716
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: Novak is still doing at least for the next ten

717
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: days anyway.

718
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean, what he's done this before he went on

719
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: a tear.

720
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 3: What was it twenty maybe four years ago? Yeah, twenty

721
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: thirteen maybe when he won Serbia one Davis Cup and

722
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: then he like didn't lose a match.

723
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: He was forty matches. Yeah, he was crazy, right, what's

724
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: he on now?

725
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 5: Twenty one?

726
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that sounded very specific. Let's go twenty one.

727
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll go on with twenty it's gonna be more. Yeah,

728
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: that's a lot, let's just put it that way.

729
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: I mean, it seems unbelievable that anybody can get in

730
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: his way. I mean, the only people we've seen be

731
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: able to sort of beat him on a stained basis

732
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: are Nick Curios, who's never given him a set.

733
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: It's just awesome. It's awesome that set, And like.

734
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: Vavrinka, who's like the only person who's beating him in

735
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: like slam finals in recent years.

736
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean I think that's right both places,

737
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: like just kind of go for a tennis as well,

738
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: go for a test.

739
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: You gotta kind of go for it against him.

740
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: You've gotta have Nick's got the serve obviously, and then

741
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: he's got this the antics and all the change of pace.

742
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 4: But if I don't be in a slam where almost impossible.

743
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: No, But that's that's where the test is, right, it's

744
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: the best of five, SAIDs You know, that's where we

745
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: see where the men meet the boys and boys meet

746
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: the men kind of thing. You know, I don't think

747
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: that separate.

748
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: Separates the men from the boys. Guys, we always don't

749
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: meet the men. Listen, I went to school. Okay, this

750
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: is like a bath house kind of vibe. No, we're

751
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: not going there. When you went there, I did you

752
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: went there. I did not go there.

753
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: We had a name in the hammam last night and

754
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: a lot of people, you know, we had everybody had

755
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: their sweat on and we got a lot of secrets out.

756
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: It was great. Oh my god.

757
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: That's the kind of mentality, amen, Jesus.

758
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: Kind of No.

759
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: I just think it's phenomenal what he's been able to do,

760
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: and he will definitely be the player with the most

761
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: Grand slams by then of his career. Yeah, we just

762
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: can't see him not winning five more Grand Slams, six

763
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: more Grand Slams. Yeah, I mean he could win potentially

764
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: for this year, and what's to say he's not going

765
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: to win. Wimbled in the US Open again.

766
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't think the way anybody else is playing.

767
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: Anthing's going to stop.

768
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: It is the coronavirus.

769
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, we might not have a French op it all,

770
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 7: but in this we might not. That's actually it's kind

771
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 7: of bonkers.

772
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: No, it's bananas. I'm ready.

773
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: I was really really felt for a team. I love team.

774
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: I think teams work ethic. I mean, he runs me

775
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: with you, just relentless fitness, retrieval, defense and offense.

776
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: Like his game is total. He can volley.

777
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: He's not as accomplished a doubles player as you by

778
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: several stretches of imagination, but you you just he's getting

779
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: closer to these big three, but he's just not. Just

780
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: something about maybe it's the level or the expectations.

781
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: I was really sad.

782
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: I thought maybe he had a chance, but then he

783
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: just kind of fizzled the same way he had against

784
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: the Doll on the last two. You know, French opens

785
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: just not quite able to kind of get in there.

786
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: Are we going to see another? Can anybody can team

787
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: do it?

788
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: I think if anyone's going to win a Slam outside

789
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: of the top three, it'll be him.

790
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: At the French I think is a chance of the.

791
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: French Ruffa's got to be like like he's going to.

792
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: Go against at the French though, yeah, nobody.

793
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 5: I still wouldn't say teams.

794
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: But that's that'll be a.

795
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: Raf needs to have like a freak class to like

796
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: benwell param my favorite player on the Minster and then.

797
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: My god, you have to bring Ben war Pear into everything. Everything,

798
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: It's everything.

799
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: I want to know who the hell is going to

800
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: win the next freaking Grand Slam for women?

801
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: I mean, this is insane. How many have we had

802
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: out of the last.

803
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: Since the if you had to pick someone, since the

804
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: Ostapenko frendship, and I think there's been a different Slam

805
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: winner every slam?

806
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: Is that right one too?

807
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 6: You're right, that's the only double hallop is one, but

808
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 6: we've had about six different onere kerb is one, three

809
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 6: Grand Slams.

810
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 3: Actually, I think sablencas Well, none of the French. Maybe Wimbledon,

811
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: just because she's got that firepower on the serve and

812
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: she's confident.

813
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

814
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Canon, it's hard out to imagine show me

815
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: another couple of Grandson finals.

816
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 4: But I'm saying she could. But someone like Canon I

817
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 4: think is far best surface is hardcore. But I mean

818
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 4: she didn't make quarters or whatever of the French last year,

819
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 4: so who knows. They're not saying she can't do it,

820
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 4: but there's a few players out there that I think

821
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 4: are better on all surfaces. Well, come on, who well, Sabs?

822
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sabs, is that what you around the tour?

823
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, we could give you a whole list of nicknames.

824
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: That's what That's what we're going to do. That's what

825
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: the people are here for.

826
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 4: Okay, so he informed in Sabs, We don't know who's informed.

827
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 5: Where's where's the where's the rankings?

828
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: Here's well, you've got ash, she can play on every surface.

829
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 5: You got someone who thought she couldn't play on clay.

830
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 4: She wins the French Open.

831
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: Well you didn't think you couldn't play on clay when

832
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: you started either.

833
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. But I couldn't. I didn't win a match for

834
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 4: five years. That was that wasn't just my thought, that

835
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: was actually what was happening.

836
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: By the results. What happened? Why? What happened? Did you

837
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: start realizing that you had a kick server a Big four?

838
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: I mean, she's not going into the French thinking she's

839
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 4: going to win the French. Probably not.

840
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: But you know who knows?

841
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: No, no, well that's true. You never know, of course,

842
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 4: you never know. But there's I don't know. I think

843
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: there's a few players that are better on all round surfaces.

844
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 5: Than put it that way. With what's coming up soon.

845
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 3: Okay, so here's who's like the top ten who have

846
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: won matches. This one terments this year sabs hallop pretends,

847
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: pretends is dangerous services. She could call it pretend.

848
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 5: I was like, who's pretense?

849
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: I thought that was there's nothing the Dutch way of

850
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: saying it.

851
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: Well, you would know what's her? What's her nickname? So

852
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: I don't have to make this mistake again. Kicks Kiki,

853
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: but now we just call it by last night, that's

854
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: a boring one.

855
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 5: That's a kiki.

856
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 4: We just call it kiki.

857
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: Fine Caroline police cover hard to imagine her in a

858
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: Grand Slam final, just because it hasn't seemed like an

859
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 3: obvious choice.

860
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: But she's still well, I mean, who won a tournament

861
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: this year?

862
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: Just saying I mean, look, there's there's three players that

863
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: haven't won a Slam that should have possibly have already

864
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: won the Carolina is one of them, Madison, Keys and Switzerlina.

865
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: I mean, those three have proven themselves to win tournaments,

866
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: have got two Grand Slam finals, and other than Switzerlina,

867
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: but Switzerland's also a person that has.

868
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: Won and she something tournaments. She won the championships not

869
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: losing a set.

870
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 4: But those who have been far more consistent than Madison.

871
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but Madison has also gone deep into I think

872
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: Madison will be the first of those three to win

873
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: a Slam.

874
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 4: That's because she's got the most five power.

875
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: Because when she's on, I feel like her level is higher.

876
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: So Videlina is a counterpuncher at the end of the day. Now,

877
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, she can outlast somebody, but I.

878
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: Thought she's sound a lot like was and Hallette.

879
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well but yeah, Helen shouldn't have a Slam, Let's

880
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: be honest.

881
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: No, I disagree, but I think with that game style

882
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 4: you're a lot more reliant on discerning the feet of

883
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: the match, which is why what happened, which is why

884
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 4: you don't see many counterpunches win science.

885
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I will say this though about wasn't Yaki

886
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: that year she won the Australian Open. She came off

887
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: winning in Singapore which is w FAT finals, and was

888
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 2: serving and playing and hitting her forehand.

889
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: She played than usual, way better, like I was like,

890
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: who is this player? All of a sudden, and then she.

891
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: Went into Australia with that same mentality and it was

892
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: only really she only got a little bit sort of

893
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: pushy with her game, like her old style when push

894
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: came to shove no pun was in the semis playing Mertens,

895
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: which I think she felt like, oh fuck, I cannot

896
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 2: lose this match, like you know, I mean, Les Murtons

897
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: is a great player, but that's your opportunity, you know

898
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 2: what I mean? And then to play Hallop finally playing

899
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: somebody in a final they can't hit her off the court,

900
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: and who hadn't won one, and who hadn't won one

901
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: as well, So I mean.

902
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: Was lost to help should have won the match. That

903
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: was Halep's match to win. It was that's pretty what

904
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: I said.

905
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: I said what I said. I believe that you stick

906
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: to it. We're gonna agree to disagree. But going back

907
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: to your original point, please Giveawitzelina three players. I think

908
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: Madison Keys. When's the first out of those three if

909
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 3: they're if one of those is gonna win, the players

910
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 3: is just gonna want to sign.

911
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 7: I thin it's made for me because he's really like,

912
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 7: it's it's mental with persona, it's mental. Like if she

913
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 7: she gets tired.

914
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: Sabs should have a slam. I mean she's also young, well, Sabs.

915
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 7: I think she will get a slam.

916
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: Her best slam will be the US Open. I think, yeah,

917
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: you think so? Yeah.

918
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: I think if she keeps playing the way she's playing

919
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 2: right now, and she keeps healthy and mentally good US Open,

920
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: she'll be dangerous.

921
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: Okay, we talked about lament a little bit, and before

922
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: we get back to that.

923
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: Give me more nicknames, like there are any of them,

924
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 3: Ramchy or the name of dirty, like you know, like

925
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: she's whizz or I don't know. I'm just thinking like

926
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm just thinking. I was like, do

927
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: I want to go like dirty with us? And then

928
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: I was like it's dirty, but it's not actually dirty. No,

929
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: they're not like like mister Pickles.

930
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: Like, does anybody get anything weird? Or is it just

931
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: like a play on their name? We just don't.

932
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 5: It's just play the name.

933
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 3: So your Australians like to give people's just like what's

934
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: your nickname?

935
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 4: Sammy?

936
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: Sammy stoves the stoves? Yeah, you like the bicypicyp I've

937
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: never no one calls me.

938
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: I've never called it, but I'm sure somebody somebody you

939
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: like better.

940
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 4: That's a really hard one.

941
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: Actually, well we used to have, like you know, we have,

942
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 2: We've had a few made or whatever.

943
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: That's like Philip who was the Pooh the cock?

944
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: I mean, you know it's the Greek Austrange they there there,

945
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: they'll get their bad names, those ones.

946
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: What has happened with the Cocknacus? Did he intreagues is

947
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: he Ba? But he came back. He came back.

948
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: He beat fed in Miami after that terrible leg injury

949
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: and then he got.

950
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 5: He's had his peck issue for a while.

951
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean he was training of preseason then,

952
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 4: just before we were getting started with Drew. Yeah, I

953
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: don't know, I mean, I don't think he's played since then. Yeah,

954
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

955
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: But can we talk about the fact that Roger Federer

956
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 2: even finds a really good time to have this knee

957
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: surgery when there's no tournaments going on?

958
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: Maybe see created coronavirus. That's what we're saying.

959
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I think that's libel, but I

960
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: think that is liable. And I am saying right now, Rogers,

961
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 2: did not start.

962
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 3: Your ranking points and your grandson Turtle, did you engineer coronavirus?

963
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: But how?

964
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he's so smart he knows exactly when to

965
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: have a little break.

966
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: Okay, but so going on, I guess everyone's working out

967
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 4: the ranking situation with how this.

968
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 5: Normally he would get his.

969
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 4: Zero point for this because he withdrew before the faith

970
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: surely that's still going to count.

971
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: No, but what did he do last year? Last year?

972
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: He lost in the final thedominant team last years?

973
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but regardless, because he wasn't playing it, just like

974
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 4: Hellotte withdrew before it was so she'll get zero points. Well,

975
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 4: this is I don't know, this is the question you're

976
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 4: working because now nobody can play.

977
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 5: Does that now not count that you withdrew before?

978
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: I think that's true. I think it's no matter what,

979
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: it's just what happened last year. That's that's what I

980
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: was reading this morning. It was saying, no, no, no, no, we're

981
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: not talking about that.

982
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: We're talking about Yes, you will lose your points from

983
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: last year. It's probably going to happen.

984
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, but that's across the boarder. But

985
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 5: that's across the situation.

986
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 2: Okay, But what we're saying is if you pull out

987
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: of this tournament, because it's mandatory, sure, before the tournament starts,

988
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: you get an additional you get a zero pointer on

989
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 2: your ranking, which is not good.

990
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 4: No, so you only get fifteen point fifteen tournaments six

991
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 4: state of sixteen.

992
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,959
Speaker 1: Oh see okay, I see, I see.

993
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 4: But now because there was just no tournament, what do

994
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 4: they do?

995
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 5: Does that zero so they count?

996
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: What would you do? Well?

997
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 5: I think it should still count. I think no intention

998
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 5: of playing.

999
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think it should definitely count as a

1000
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: zero pointer even though it didn't go played.

1001
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: Because like Sam.

1002
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 5: Sit, it's fine. I don't know what the discussion is.

1003
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know. That's the thing. I mean, this

1004
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: is so unprecedented. What's going on that?

1005
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this was kind of when Monica got

1006
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: stabbed and came back, it was unprecedented, like what.

1007
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: Do we do? And everyone sat around trying to figure.

1008
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: Out what to do, how to approach the situation, and

1009
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: it would it never happened out.

1010
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: What we do is we put four armed guards on

1011
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: every quarter another match. That's what we do.

1012
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, in the end, but in the rankings we

1013
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: were talking about at the time, So what are they

1014
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: going to do with this? Because this is unprecedented and

1015
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: we don't know and you are setting a precedent now

1016
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: for if this happens or i mean, nothing like this

1017
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: has ever happened since what the world was like really,

1018
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: like you know when you look at the boards at

1019
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: Wimbledon and it say it's nineteen forty oh.

1020
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, no champion. Yeah.

1021
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 3: We were talking about this with the Olympics too, because

1022
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 3: there's a conversation about Japan about having the Olympics, and

1023
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: were you planning and planning the Olympic.

1024
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're qualified, you can go right, well if it.

1025
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 4: Happens, yeah, I mean I'm trying to get there.

1026
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only two times the Olympics have ever been

1027
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: canceled are nineteen forty and nineteen forty four. Like literally

1028
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: the same exact sort of. This is unprecedented.

1029
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 4: What's happening right now.

1030
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: It's amazing, which is why I think we should fill

1031
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: the rest of our podcast the remaining ministers with total

1032
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 3: speculation and say things.

1033
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 5: Like like I'm going to come.

1034
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: No one played the tournament, but I was there.

1035
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: I've never played a pro tournament, but maybe I could

1036
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: win Indian Wells just by being the only person at

1037
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: the courts.

1038
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: You know, you lived through the cycle. Anything is possible,

1039
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1040
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 3: Okay, so maybe the tournaments get back on track by

1041
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: the French.

1042
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,959
Speaker 5: Maybe I think Europe's in great doubt.

1043
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: Do you think you're totally you think Wimbledon included?

1044
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 5: You don't think Wimbledon.

1045
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I mean I know people different closed.

1046
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 4: I just heard from a physio before I came here

1047
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 4: that he thinks that the Spanish board is about to

1048
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 4: be closed any day now. He said that they're like

1049
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 4: ten days behind Italy. So you got two big countries

1050
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: where we play, and then Monico is in between them, right,

1051
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 4: So that's Mona Corolo on the men's side.

1052
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, what else we got we got?

1053
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: Well, France is in dire Straits. You're saying that you

1054
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 4: are gathering.

1055
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 2: Strasbourg, Madrid, s Pasburg, Stuttguard, prag America.

1056
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 4: You were going to go to Well that was fed

1057
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 4: Cup so but still is that?

1058
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean the problem is when.

1059
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 5: Borders start closing, how do we get anywhere?

1060
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: Are you worrid about getting stuck here?

1061
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 4: Well? I would think as an Australian citizen, I can

1062
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 4: get home, I can get in, but you need to

1063
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: have flights operating.

1064
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what if the state's closes down? I mean,

1065
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: what do we do? We drive? You drive to Australia.

1066
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 4: You driving me from Miami back to you so I

1067
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 4: can fly home.

1068
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 5: If there's no domestic life, I will drive you back.

1069
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: Sam.

1070
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: We will wants to go on a road trip, but

1071
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: we will rent a kick ass like o V.

1072
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: We'll make a week of it. Will be like on

1073
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: the wheel you get cheese ones in the back fry

1074
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean.

1075
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: I thought you're gonna say you're going to drive to Australia,

1076
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't want to have to

1077
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: be the one to tell you this, but you guys

1078
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: are from a from an island, Like, I don't know

1079
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: how that's going to happen we all live in.

1080
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 5: It might be the safest place.

1081
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: It might be the safest place well self quarantine.

1082
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 3: I think we should probably wrap this podcast up because

1083
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: we've completely lost the thought but anything else we want

1084
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: to know.

1085
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: I think that's the whole point. I think this is

1086
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: where we're at. I mean, we literally are sitting in our.

1087
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: Hotel in Indian Worlds, California.

1088
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: We have no idea what is next in the next

1089
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: couple of months.

1090
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: Wow, And you know it's it's crazy. I mean, this

1091
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: is everybody's livelihood.

1092
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: You know.

1093
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: It just doesn't affect the players, obviously affects them, and

1094
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: it affects players, coaches, It affects fitness trainers, it affects

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Speaker 2: the w.

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Speaker 1: Everyone.

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Speaker 5: It just affects TV.

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Speaker 2: All the people that you know, take the tickets from

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Speaker 2: you when you're walk in like this is this.

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Speaker 1: Is affecting a great deal of people.

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Speaker 2: Announcers like you know, our friend Andrew Crasny who does

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Speaker 2: all the on court sure announcing for Indian Wells and

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Speaker 2: Miami and Charleston, Like that's a huge livelihood for him

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Speaker 2: for six, you know, five weeks done.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I mean, those are people's livelihoods, and you know, with

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Speaker 2: tennis often we do in payment ways. You know, you

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Speaker 2: get paid quite a lot in those weeks, and if

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Speaker 2: those weeks are gone, you can't just make them up

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Speaker 2: somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: So this is yeah, well, this is a devastatingly unique

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Speaker 1: time in.

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Speaker 2: The world, but also for tennis, this isn't I think

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Speaker 2: I'm going to make a call right now. I don't

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Speaker 2: think any tournament will be played, Sam, I just said

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Speaker 2: the same thing.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: I think the French is possible without fans because the

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Speaker 2: TV rights are still quite big.

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Speaker 5: On both ways.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying the French will happen more likely not so much.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know what people can do if they're really

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Speaker 3: bored listen to podcast. They can read Racket magazine at

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Speaker 3: the very least. I mean, there would be a shill,

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Speaker 3: but you know, right.

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Speaker 4: Hey, sam wis to write an article, Sam, No, I

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Speaker 4: just wanted to read the magazine.

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Speaker 5: I was going to write an article.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're ending on that.

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Speaker 5: I've got time now I can learn.

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Speaker 1: Great, Yeah, she'll write something now we've had it. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Samantha, thank you, thank you, cheos W, thank

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Speaker 1: you people. Thanks for coming back and joining us. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back for more.

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Speaker 3: And that's it for this episode of the Racket Magazine Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. Our host is Renee Stubbs. Our co

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Speaker 3: host and producer is me Caitlin Thompson. Music by internationally

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Speaker 3: renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong, thanks to Tim Or Jerry and

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Speaker 3: then the team at ACAST. Find us at racketmag dot com,

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Speaker 3: slash podcast, and subscribe to us at any of your

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Speaker 3: favorite podcatchers