Speaker 1: They had an owner at one point where he was
Speaker 1: straight mob and he would always get like three or
Speaker 1: four fighters. And there's either's a video online where he
Speaker 1: came in the locker room and goes, I don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck. He was opening face off. You just fight,
Speaker 1: so opening face off. They just attack their five players
Speaker 1: start beating the ship out of them. It's like, come
Speaker 1: into the locker room with like AK forty seven's like
Speaker 1: yelling at the guys, refs calling to.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait wait, running in with AK forty sevens.
Speaker 1: Leave down.
Speaker 3: That's how we usually do our podcast. A run oh
Speaker 3: never makes it and makes it.
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Speaker 4: We have the boy biz Nasty on.
Speaker 1: It's great are having you guys on board. Sam.
Speaker 3: I know you guys are new, but if you don't
Speaker 3: clap next time when we clap, there's gonna be so
Speaker 3: fu right.
Speaker 1: We have biz Nasty on the podcast noise Yeah. Is
Speaker 1: it okay to clip?
Speaker 3: It's okay to ourselves sometimes if you're the only one
Speaker 3: to do it for yourself, you still got a clap, right,
Speaker 3: So you're getting a place here, you bought a place here,
Speaker 3: a little lot of land in August.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I closed on a place and uh, I mean
Speaker 1: I played here for five years, and I mean it's
Speaker 1: it's hard to go back up north to Canada during
Speaker 1: the winter time. So I'm like, fuck it, and I
Speaker 1: work for the team here still the Coyotes. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: down the street. I don't want to give the address
Speaker 1: out on here. I might have a couple of boosties.
Speaker 3: No doubt people coming out here. This is good area though, dude.
Speaker 1: We got I got one point one three acres. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good. Yeah, maybe a tennis court in there.
Speaker 3: Do you play tennis?
Speaker 1: No, just just just bach. People have tennis courts. That's
Speaker 1: all that matters.
Speaker 3: I want to give up the facade that I'm rich
Speaker 3: ash fucked yeah correct, Yeah, I play it all. No,
Speaker 3: but like if people, if you know the place of ship,
Speaker 3: you get practice here.
Speaker 4: That's how boys come and stay, you know, if you
Speaker 4: want to get a work out. We got a tennis
Speaker 4: court out back. I don't want a tennis court.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to play doubles.
Speaker 3: No, I can't be doing.
Speaker 1: I don't want my kids playing hard sports, just like
Speaker 1: golf and all the country club sports.
Speaker 3: I can't be having my kids do the country club sports.
Speaker 3: I got a weird thing against country clubs. I live
Speaker 3: in Nashville.
Speaker 1: Now, obviously we.
Speaker 2: Both do yeah, And the long the more we get
Speaker 2: into it, and every time you bring up the more
Speaker 2: the more there is confusion with h.
Speaker 3: I just he's not a golf When you golf, you're
Speaker 3: basically saying I'm better than you. And I know it.
Speaker 4: You know, you're talking to mister saying bag.
Speaker 1: I know I'm I'm not good at any of these
Speaker 1: country club sports. And I was just fucking Josh and
Speaker 1: I am not a country club guy.
Speaker 3: As you guys listen, he's just trying to fit in.
Speaker 3: Yeah either, boy, I'm not either, dude.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Like, I went with my friends.
Speaker 4: To one of the I'm about it, by the way,
Speaker 4: I'm about it.
Speaker 3: That's the first interruption of our podcast. That happens all
Speaker 3: the time. I went with a friend to with their kids,
Speaker 3: our kids, our friends, and we're friends whatever. So we
Speaker 3: gore at the country club that they're member of. And
Speaker 3: it's unbelievable, dude, they got people feeding you drinks all
Speaker 3: day and it's on some weird tab that doesn't exist
Speaker 3: at the end of the year, like the kids are
Speaker 3: having a blast. There's a splash pad and then bigger
Speaker 3: kids can slide on the big slides, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is fucking awesome. But then there's something in the
Speaker 3: back of my head that tingles. I'm from Cave Creek,
Speaker 3: which is like forty five Oh no way, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I grew up here, and my mom would always drive
Speaker 3: down to Scottsdale, like my biological mother, and she'd always
Speaker 3: be like, look at these fucking hoity toity mother, and
Speaker 3: like she kind of en grated at my head, like
Speaker 3: if you were rich, you fucking you're not.
Speaker 1: You're not shit, Like mamaays, maybe I'll put my lot
Speaker 1: up for sale. It's funny you say that, though I
Speaker 1: originally looked in Cave Creek because you can get I
Speaker 1: think more Land and you're a little bit more excluded.
Speaker 1: But I love that there. It's just like it's you know,
Speaker 1: a little harder to develop it, and then you're dealing
Speaker 1: with a lot of like snakes and rodents and shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the funniest thing you said about that is that
Speaker 1: that tab that doesn't exist until you get the bill
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Which is just a
Speaker 1: kick in the nuts. And you mentioned Nashville. I think
Speaker 1: they're doing a just discovery property out there. What's a
Speaker 1: discovery property? So this guy, Meldman and another guy, they
Speaker 1: started developing these like fantasy lands for for all the
Speaker 1: HEIGHTI tities as you like to call them.
Speaker 3: I think the titi is not the word I use,
Speaker 3: but that's officially the word I use now.
Speaker 1: So they got one in Cordelaine, Idaho called Gauzer and
Speaker 1: that was the first everone that I went to. And
Speaker 1: they have one of the nicest golf courses in North
Speaker 1: America on a Gretzky's got a place there. A lot
Speaker 1: of the hockey guys kind of gravitated towards it. And
Speaker 1: I went and visited Sheldon Surrey and this you know,
Speaker 1: you get to the whole too, and they have this
Speaker 1: little like shack and you go inside. It's got every
Speaker 1: snack and food you can imagine on the golf course.
Speaker 1: And it's cool. But like you said, it's I'm like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: there's no money exchange here. It's like no, no, they
Speaker 1: just give you a bill at the end of the month. Yes,
Speaker 1: it fucking bens. Snickers is like six bucks. Yeah, no
Speaker 1: fuck around.
Speaker 2: But you go on an invite out to a country club,
Speaker 2: I mean you're living the thing her guests you're living.
Speaker 3: I think I have the biggest issue because I've kind
Speaker 3: of gotten over the whole like rich people are bad
Speaker 3: thing because I'm an adult.
Speaker 4: Now you're rich.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, hey Taylor, he's the country club atmosphere. He
Speaker 2: if he throws any kind of party, Like that's the
Speaker 2: type of life you're living.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you and you're probably getting fucking five five
Speaker 1: mil signing bonus system through the Tennessee Titans too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, things are doing okay for me of my torn
Speaker 3: a cl I can't run, but I make a lot
Speaker 3: of money, so my decent right now.
Speaker 1: At least they didn't cut Yeah. Yeah, Hey listen, it's
Speaker 1: it's like World War Z out there, dude.
Speaker 3: Shit is going down with the NFL and the season
Speaker 3: starts like the new League years. Sort's the seventeenth, so
Speaker 3: it's like a tampering period. Now the cap room came down.
Speaker 3: We'll get into all that, dude, But this shit's like
Speaker 3: it's the Wild West in the NFL right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've been seeing it online and I was I
Speaker 1: was gonna not to be good, not gonna come here,
Speaker 1: be too harsh. But any NFL owners are like they're
Speaker 1: fucking assholes.
Speaker 3: Are they really hard?
Speaker 1: They're fucking cut they How are they different than an
Speaker 1: NHL owner? Guaranteed contracts?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yours, this conscience just spend over like seven
Speaker 3: to nine years like Crosby Sudden, Like what one hundred
Speaker 3: million dollar deal?
Speaker 1: It's like a nine year, one hundred million dollar deal. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I just feel like it's more like you're
Speaker 1: shaking someone's hand and they're they're gonna guarantee you the
Speaker 1: money you're get. Now there, you can get bought out,
Speaker 1: but if you're out outside of your entry level and
Speaker 1: it goes on maybe I think maybe five years into
Speaker 1: your career, you at least have to give them two
Speaker 1: thirds of what you signed for. So if you do,
Speaker 1: in fact get bought out, you're seeing two thirds of
Speaker 1: your money. But you you also don't have to work
Speaker 1: like after that, right, you don't work for it.
Speaker 4: You guys get bought out like that.
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot less rare than it's happening in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Like I just kind of been poking my
Speaker 1: head online the last couple of days and it's just
Speaker 1: guys are dropping like flies.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but then you so let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: what's the deal with this guy who signed with the
Speaker 1: Saints where it was one hundred and forty million?
Speaker 3: But listen, I know exactly where you're going. You're talking
Speaker 3: about Taysom Hill. Yes, that's the moment missile. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 3: So this guy is like, dude is a Swiss army knife.
Speaker 3: He's a a I think it's a decent quarterback. He's
Speaker 3: a better quarterback than me. So it's hard for me to
Speaker 3: tough shit. But like, yeah, he's not like, he's not
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, not Russell Wilson, he's not Ryan Tannehill. He's
Speaker 3: a good quarterback. He's a special teams guy. He does
Speaker 3: all these special teams. He crushes it. He's like a
Speaker 3: big Swiss.
Speaker 1: Army knife guy, can play running plays, running back pot
Speaker 1: to himself.
Speaker 4: Yeah pretty much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's see who's the who's the black dude, That
Speaker 3: big thick black dude that does the joke and that
Speaker 3: grabs the ballos assistant coach, tight end, receiver, running back, quarterback.
Speaker 3: You've seen that Cruz No, no, and it's like it's
Speaker 3: something different swinging to miss on this one.
Speaker 1: But so, dude, that's don't care. It's like a big joke.
Speaker 3: Around the league that like, this dude's like a franchise
Speaker 3: cour this franchise quarterback, and now they're giving him four
Speaker 3: years one hundred and forty million, some ridiculous thing like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but every every year is voidable. So it's like, really,
Speaker 3: the contract's only like twenty million.
Speaker 1: Dollars monopoly money is it's weird.
Speaker 2: Dude, avoidable year or whatever, those avoidable years because Levante
Speaker 2: signed one and it was two years for twenty.
Speaker 1: Vante Davis's buddy twenty million.
Speaker 2: Guaranteed seven and a half at signing, and so they
Speaker 2: add these void years. They added like three void years
Speaker 2: to his contract, and so essentially the signing bonus, instead
Speaker 2: of being spread over two years and affecting the cap,
Speaker 2: they added on these three voidable like ghost years, so
Speaker 2: they can spread the cap.
Speaker 4: Out for five years.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Cap gymnastics. Yeah, that's the term. I learned this
Speaker 1: as well. So you're you're like the wit of the podcast,
Speaker 1: and you're more like because you're like you were on
Speaker 1: the practice squad at some point. Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, I was in the AHL for part
Speaker 1: of my career. I was even in the league lower
Speaker 1: than that the HL. I played in the OHL coming up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you read a book, dude, you actually did some research, dude.
Speaker 3: My brother got drafted for juniors for Metro Moose. He
Speaker 3: was played a Corpus Christie. Yeah, so did all that.
Speaker 3: He burned out. He's kind of hippi opt but whatever
Speaker 3: as far as he goes.
Speaker 1: But he was like I did too. I just was
Speaker 1: able to survive a little longer.
Speaker 2: Explain the leagues because I was looking at that stuff.
Speaker 2: It's like, you played how many years pro?
Speaker 1: I played twelve years pro? And that's like the one
Speaker 1: thing that's nice about hockey is you can go over
Speaker 1: to Europe and play, Like I turned the NHL lockout.
Speaker 1: I went over and playing Cardiff Wales in the English
Speaker 1: ei HL, the English English Ice Hockey League and U
Speaker 1: it was a blast. But you at least have options,
Speaker 1: whereas like NFL, if there's not that, although they are
Speaker 1: creating the XFL back up again, or you can go CFL,
Speaker 1: but CFL doesn't pay nearly as much and they have
Speaker 1: way different rules too, way different rules. Although is trying
Speaker 1: to combine it all. The Rock is.
Speaker 4: Dude, the Rock, he might do it, though he really might.
Speaker 1: He was one guy who could.
Speaker 3: He touches. Yeah, he turns it into I.
Speaker 1: Think the CFL is struggling as far as money. But
Speaker 1: going back to the hockey thing is is you know
Speaker 1: when I signed, usually there was an NHL team with
Speaker 1: an HL affiliate, and even some of them had an
Speaker 1: EHL affiliate. Where I started out my professional career with
Speaker 1: the Wheeling Nailors and Wheeling West Virginia, so Wheeling awesome.
Speaker 1: So you could basically be as bad at hockey once
Speaker 1: you hit pro and you're going to find somewhere to play.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of nice for for actual money.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, because like in the laite, it's
Speaker 2: like in the NFL, you bring up a practice squad
Speaker 2: year or like CFL or anything like that, it's kind
Speaker 2: of like you don't necessarily count them is like pro years,
Speaker 2: Like guys won't allow you to count them as like
Speaker 2: pro years. But it seems like a hockey if you
Speaker 2: play in any of these professionals, you get to count
Speaker 2: them as like.
Speaker 3: They kind of take on the definition of pro like
Speaker 3: pro is being paid to do a service, right, right, right,
Speaker 3: that's what you do. But like Europe's like no joke.
Speaker 3: You can you go over there and they pay you
Speaker 3: obviously less. But my boy, I have a buddy that
Speaker 3: plays in Germany and like his house is paid for,
Speaker 3: his cars paid for it, like.
Speaker 1: He has no bills.
Speaker 3: So everything and give him is gravy.
Speaker 1: And and and in most cases is at least as
Speaker 1: a hockey player. When you go over there, it's tax
Speaker 1: free money, like they cover the taxes somehow.
Speaker 3: So they like if you're contracting one hundred and then
Speaker 3: they have to pay twenty thousand taxi.
Speaker 1: They have to cover the taxes and then and then.
Speaker 1: I've also talked to buddies who who have played in Russia,
Speaker 1: including Wit and in some cases they're dropping off like
Speaker 1: moneys and money and Duffel bags. That's to the rink.
Speaker 1: There's guys who have had to Russia.
Speaker 4: That's Russia.
Speaker 1: Your league is the sec of hockey kind of there's
Speaker 1: no rules. It is a it is a free for all.
Speaker 1: Like the stories of guys having to like cut goalies,
Speaker 1: cutting open their pads and stuffing the money in their
Speaker 1: pads and resewing them. Oh no, them giving out the
Speaker 1: money before practice, and then you go on the ice
Speaker 1: and you come back and the money's gone out of
Speaker 1: your stall, and it's like too bad. So sad stories
Speaker 1: of guys, Oh two bads, what do you mean? Like
Speaker 1: the money's in there, and then they go to practice.
Speaker 1: They would hand out everybody's money before.
Speaker 4: So with this money, you go into the locker, you
Speaker 4: steal his money. It's like too boch.
Speaker 1: Well, it's all mob ran over there. Everything there was
Speaker 1: a rock run. Oh in the KHL. There are insane
Speaker 1: KHL stories, probably the best professional stories. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: had guys. We had a guy named Tim Stapleton come
Speaker 1: on our podcast and he was he was injured and
Speaker 1: he was trying to play through it. And they were
Speaker 1: on a long road trip and it got to the
Speaker 1: point where he's like, hey, my grind's fucked up. I
Speaker 1: So he They're like, all right, fine. They sent them
Speaker 1: back to the town to get rehab and not continue
Speaker 1: the road trip because it's just another body to pay
Speaker 1: for hotel rooms, YadA YadA. And he'd been noticing that
Speaker 1: every time he would come back from road trips, he
Speaker 1: thought there was like a ghost in this place because
Speaker 1: furniture was always moved a little bit. Well, he comes
Speaker 1: home early from the road trip. He opens up the
Speaker 1: door and it's bolted and finally knocks, and the guy
Speaker 1: who'd rented him the place was living there with his
Speaker 1: family when he would go on the road. So he
Speaker 1: ends up spending the night on the couch with this
Speaker 1: whole guy's whole time, you caught me, you caught me?
Speaker 1: Oh man gets somebody who played in the KHL an
Speaker 1: old school guy. I think the league has progressively cleaned
Speaker 1: up a little bit by little, just because people were
Speaker 1: HEARDing the stories and it was hard for them.
Speaker 4: Because of the internet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because, yeah, because of social media. But what was
Speaker 1: another one? Oh, like guys having to open up a
Speaker 1: bank there to put their money in the next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, they go there and like the bank no
Speaker 1: longer exists, and guys being out of hundreds and hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars, if not millions, there is they
Speaker 1: would do this Russian gas sometimes day of games where
Speaker 1: they would get they would get the vitamins like needles
Speaker 1: stuck in him, like wit Wit one time did the
Speaker 1: vitamins and he's like, biz, I've never felt so good
Speaker 1: on the ice of my entire life. I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know what was being put in me. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's They had an owner at one point where he
Speaker 1: was straight mob and he would always get like three
Speaker 1: or four fighters. And there's either's a video online where
Speaker 1: he came in the locker room and goes, I don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck. He was opening face off, you just fight,
Speaker 1: so opening face off. They just attacked their five players,
Speaker 1: start beating the ship out of them. It's like, come
Speaker 1: into the locker room with like AK forty seven's like
Speaker 1: yelling at the guys. Ref's calling to.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, running in the AK forty sevens.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. The same owner, the same owner that told
Speaker 1: the whole team to scrap and he always wanted fighters
Speaker 1: on his squad. I think Jack Josh Gratton was on
Speaker 1: the team at one point. Uh nasty morasty Jeremyablanski, who
Speaker 1: we also had on our podcast, who told that story
Speaker 1: about how he wanted them all fighting off the hop
Speaker 1: but the ref was calling too many penalties on their team,
Speaker 1: and he came down out of the box down to
Speaker 1: the ice and had a conversation with the raft and
Speaker 1: was basically like, if you call one more penalty, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kill your family. So it was just there was
Speaker 1: no more penalty.
Speaker 3: There was no more penalty.
Speaker 1: The KHL is the craziest league on the planet, or
Speaker 1: at least at one point. Once it's it's it's changed
Speaker 1: a little bit. As I said, the stories go on
Speaker 1: for days.
Speaker 3: Whenever we were part of something like that, I wish
Speaker 3: like the league was kind of like that a little bit.
Speaker 4: Just like the wild NFL Blitz legit, like NFL Blitz.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's another video game too on like PlayStation.
Speaker 3: NFL Street or something like that.
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, it would do the storyline and
Speaker 2: they would basically use like Lawrence Taylor is like, uh,
Speaker 2: it's like the character that would develop throughout the league.
Speaker 4: They would break, they would break.
Speaker 2: Something in their leg or in their body right, and
Speaker 2: you'd have these decisions to make to like inject them
Speaker 2: and play the.
Speaker 1: Coach.
Speaker 3: Kilmer Yeah, yeah, you gotta stick them. Slowly closes the
Speaker 3: door for the running back.
Speaker 1: You shut your mouth. You knew it was good for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that control your transcripts? Yeah, how much how often
Speaker 4: did we get it, you know, get the sauce?
Speaker 3: So was he ever actually find out?
Speaker 4: Yeah, did he figure out?
Speaker 1: So I told I told the story on what was
Speaker 1: I was on PMT recently and he was over there,
Speaker 1: and uh, he shows up to the rink one day.
Speaker 1: He was playing in Sochi where they had the Olympics,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't there for long. I think he lasted
Speaker 1: half a year, just because like they would make you
Speaker 1: stay in of something called the basa night before a game.
Speaker 1: He had to go there, be away from your family
Speaker 1: and these rush these army bunkers where you know, they
Speaker 1: just it's like they want to control because they were
Speaker 1: paying you, right. Yeah, and he shows up to the
Speaker 1: rink one day and there's these metal detectors set up
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, there's never a metal detect or something.
Speaker 1: And there's another Russian player at the time walking in
Speaker 1: as he was walking in, and he's trying to gain
Speaker 1: as much information, but the guy broken English. So long
Speaker 1: story short, Putin was in on the ice, yeah, and
Speaker 1: he brought in like four or five hundred people and
Speaker 1: there was no goalies out there. It was just him
Speaker 1: and he would go skate around the ice. He'd put
Speaker 1: the puck in the empty net and then the four
Speaker 1: or five hundred people would stand up and they'd start
Speaker 1: copping no no with wit told the story and then
Speaker 1: and then he would take it out of the net
Speaker 1: and he would skate down on the other end put
Speaker 1: it in the in the net, and then they would
Speaker 1: get up and start clapping again.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that kind of is bro could you imagine, dude.
Speaker 1: But to be fair though, and listen, I'm no putin
Speaker 1: fan here. I think we're well aware he's evil. But
Speaker 1: if you have that much money, I mean it's kind
Speaker 1: of funny. The stupid ship you could do, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: no question, Look what silly ship would you do? And
Speaker 1: if you had, I'd probably be doing that. I was
Speaker 1: just pass that in the middle of the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people, still a stand up with thousand packed Titan
Speaker 3: Stadium and just do some passes like fuck yam a
Speaker 3: lot and.
Speaker 2: Just run a route tree with like everybody. I'm just
Speaker 2: showing you the ball and everybody's doing a standing here.
Speaker 1: And buy an NFL team and then sign yourself as
Speaker 1: a quarterback, receiver, tight and.
Speaker 3: Semi pro with like Will Ferrell when he's like the coach,
Speaker 3: the captain and the GM or whatever.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't allowed to go out to the ice
Speaker 1: to watch because it was blocked off. But where you
Speaker 1: saw and get your sticks ready was where the Zamboni
Speaker 1: entrance was. So he was able to get over there
Speaker 1: and and watch some of this and just see how
Speaker 1: how bizarre it was. But uh, we we have a
Speaker 1: reoccurring guest, Tim Stapleton. I mentioned another guy, Mike Commodore.
Speaker 1: But all these, all these friends of ours were able
Speaker 1: to go play in Russia and and they all have
Speaker 1: very very similar stories of of how crazy it was
Speaker 1: in its own regard. Are these days retired to Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tim Stapleton's retired. He's the one who told the story
Speaker 1: about the person living at his place. I don't Commodore
Speaker 1: was was Commodore. We actually created an animation of it.
Speaker 1: He was just at some restaurant and next thing you know,
Speaker 1: he's getting in a brawl where chairs are being thrown
Speaker 1: with these Russian dudes that he'd never even seen in
Speaker 1: his life. Had no clue as to why he was
Speaker 1: in a fistfight, but it was all going down, and
Speaker 1: we created an animation on our Spit and Chickles to
Speaker 1: YouTube channel of the whole story. We had another guy,
Speaker 1: Josh Hennessy, who came on and he told he actually
Speaker 1: went to that fighting team, but he wasn't a fighter.
Speaker 1: He was actually a decent player and he had his
Speaker 1: own experience with that owner to where he was hanging
Speaker 1: out with him and he befriended him. So he saw
Speaker 1: some of the antics. They showed up to the airport
Speaker 1: to pick him up in all of his gear and
Speaker 1: they had their guns on him and stuff. No shit, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fucking that's the KHL. That's the KHL. I only
Speaker 1: played one time in Russia. It was at the Under
Speaker 1: eighteen World Championship and it was Yaroslav and the it
Speaker 1: was a Yaroslav. The Locomotive was their team name, and
Speaker 1: the town was it was it's hard to see, you know,
Speaker 1: he's there's nothing much. It's tough out there. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: wasn't like a blight of grass anywhere. It was just
Speaker 1: like dirt and rubbish and rubble. But I tell you what,
Speaker 1: as soon as you drove up and you saw the rink,
Speaker 1: it was immaculate. They had a bowling alley in it.
Speaker 1: They had cheerleaders dancing. But you know, during the game,
Speaker 1: during the.
Speaker 3: Team while feel was holding potatoes and vodka wishing to god,
Speaker 3: they had a penny to piss on the This was.
Speaker 1: The most intimidating building I ever played in the game.
Speaker 1: Game one we played against Team Russia. We ended up
Speaker 1: getting beat beat six to three. And Ovechkin's a year younger,
Speaker 1: but he was so good at that time over there.
Speaker 1: Uh he was playing a year up. Well at least
Speaker 1: maybe not according to his actual birth certificate. And that's
Speaker 1: a that's a a piece of paper twelve or whatever
Speaker 1: conspiracy out there. And I think he had a hat
Speaker 1: trick that game. But we came out and it was
Speaker 1: exactly as you did. Imagine the guys in the big
Speaker 1: Russian coats and the Russian hats army style and they're
Speaker 1: all over the shoulder. No they didn't have guns on them,
Speaker 1: but they were all standing up the entire game. And
Speaker 1: it was a very very intimidating atmos.
Speaker 2: Like Rocky four type, like you're over in Russian They
Speaker 2: just all the suits and it's just a business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, shipping my diaper.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you eighteen dude.
Speaker 3: Going across being under eighteen and having to go into
Speaker 3: all places of Russia and the most intimidating ship.
Speaker 4: That's that's why I mean, you see that?
Speaker 2: Did you say the video going around where it's like
Speaker 2: showing these the Russian kids just beating the shit out
Speaker 2: of each other.
Speaker 1: No, I've not seen.
Speaker 4: There's like holding each other and they're just fighting. They're
Speaker 4: learning how to fight.
Speaker 1: But how old are they?
Speaker 4: They were little, they're little.
Speaker 3: There's taking punches and the gun hits and.
Speaker 2: They're learning how to fight like a hockey class things,
Speaker 2: just learning how to pull back and forth and fight.
Speaker 4: And there's just one k in the corner just beating
Speaker 4: the shit out another kid.
Speaker 3: You talk about cultural differences, like in America, we obviously
Speaker 3: live in a bubble, but like if you go to
Speaker 3: the West Coast, it's like, okay, you guys, got you
Speaker 3: dudes like that over there, and you go to the Northeast,
Speaker 3: it's like anyway you hit a part of the country,
Speaker 3: it's like there's different people, different cultures. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 3: like Russia, it's like the same thing. Like we don't
Speaker 3: do emotion here, Like you don't feel pain anymore. You
Speaker 3: drink vodka and potatoes and that's fucking what you do.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, and it's like what an American, stupid American
Speaker 3: thing to say of me. But like this ship is
Speaker 3: kind of wild.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean as far as the politics and every concern,
Speaker 1: I don't really have a call, but just just hearing
Speaker 1: these the hockey players going over there and experiencing this,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's obviously not normal to our standards. Yeeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: When you were playing, like in any league, you're obviously
Speaker 1: playing with dudes that can speak English.
Speaker 3: You just speak French. All this different shit, Like was
Speaker 3: it hard? Like in our locker room, it's easy. Everyone
Speaker 3: speaks English, dudes kind of we're all kind of around
Speaker 3: from the same area, but like everyone kind of gets
Speaker 3: along cultures different cultures, but like dudes can still shafe experience.
Speaker 3: We all went to college, We all got out of college,
Speaker 3: we all went to the league. You know, some dudes
Speaker 3: playing the CFL. That's cool story to talk about. Other
Speaker 3: than that, like the to get from a high school
Speaker 3: football player to an NFL football player, the road's pretty
Speaker 3: straight ahead, got it? You don't.
Speaker 4: That's clear.
Speaker 1: It's very clear.
Speaker 3: So like all the boys can kind of get around
Speaker 3: that with you guys, I was like, do you have
Speaker 3: a hard time like talking to dudes like some dude
Speaker 3: in a Russia, some dude from Germany. You know, I
Speaker 3: mean it's everywhere.
Speaker 1: I wasn't in Pittsburgh very long, but when Malcolm first
Speaker 1: came in, I was there, and yeah, he had very
Speaker 1: broken English, and I can imagine where it would be hard.
Speaker 1: He was fortunate enough where he had Sergei Gonchar there
Speaker 1: who'd played in North America a long time. But kind
Speaker 1: of alluding to your point, it would it would definitely
Speaker 1: be hard. I played junior with a guy named Thomas
Speaker 1: Chabi and he was from the Czech Republic and he
Speaker 1: could barely speak in English, and you could tell how
Speaker 1: much it was affecting him, not being with his friends
Speaker 1: and family and then coming into an environment where he
Speaker 1: couldn't even joke around with the guys. And then on
Speaker 1: top of that, the European game, depending on which country
Speaker 1: you're in, is just so different than the North American game.
Speaker 1: So what you know, they're seeing him as an NHL prospect,
Speaker 1: but they have to test it to get him over
Speaker 1: here to see if he can adapt to the North
Speaker 1: American style.
Speaker 3: What's the difference of it.
Speaker 1: Well, so they're starting to change it up. They've they've
Speaker 1: they've made the ice a little bit smaller to call
Speaker 1: it Olympic ice or or there's like sorry, there's like
Speaker 1: a there's like a level between NHL ice and Olympic ice.
Speaker 1: The Olympic ice is the ice they play over in
Speaker 1: Europe where it's so much wider, So it's it's more
Speaker 1: played like soccer. It's more based on puck possession. It's
Speaker 1: way less physical, so it's it's hard when they come
Speaker 1: over here because they have less time in space and
Speaker 1: guys are running at them a lot more. So it's
Speaker 1: just it's it's hard for them to adjust because they're
Speaker 1: getting less time to react and make plays with the puck.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was definitely a harder transition for some
Speaker 1: than others. And some really really good players who played
Speaker 1: over in Russia who are Russian, let's say, probably made
Speaker 1: more than they would have ever made when they played
Speaker 1: over here because they weren't paying taxes and they were
Speaker 1: playing in Russia making like five six million ten years ago,
Speaker 1: so they were being paid just as much as what
Speaker 1: an NHL superstar would be in the khl oh damn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you were when you were like moving in
Speaker 3: your career, like the yeah, I talked to us like
Speaker 3: we're f years old, right, because I kind of been
Speaker 3: around hockey and I have zero clue about Yeah, in Michigan,
Speaker 3: I was always with the hockey boys. I love to
Speaker 3: go down stories with that because those dudes were they're
Speaker 3: the most the most fun group, and it seems like
Speaker 3: they were the tightest group the entire time. Like football
Speaker 3: is such so many guys on one team.
Speaker 1: It's like two teams. You have the offensive fifty.
Speaker 3: Fifty three guys in the team, and ten of those
Speaker 3: guys are peace squaalsy, like sixty guys in the team,
Speaker 3: sixty three, But like in college is like one hundred
Speaker 3: and ten dudes, and it's like you don't know which
Speaker 3: way is up, Like you got your core group of dudes,
Speaker 3: but like the hockey boys just rolled together. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: so for you that has nothing to do with my question.
Speaker 3: But for you, like when did you figure out, like,
Speaker 3: if I'm going to make this thing, I gotta be
Speaker 3: a bruiser. I got I gotta sling my fists around
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 1: So I grew up as a defenseman. Yeah. And then
Speaker 1: when I hit pro I I Pittsburgh they just had
Speaker 1: a lot of d in their system. So there I mentioned.
Speaker 1: I started in the ECHL, and then when I was
Speaker 1: in HL, I was like not playing as much as
Speaker 1: I was in the coast. And given the fact that
Speaker 1: they had so many prospects and I was scrapping a
Speaker 1: little bit down these coasts, they actually were like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to put you on forward. When I got
Speaker 1: called up to the HL the last time, and I'd
Speaker 1: never really played forward in my life.
Speaker 4: They just said, they just told you were going to
Speaker 4: be for Yeah, the writing was on the wall.
Speaker 1: And and but you knew, yeah.
Speaker 3: I know, you know why to put me.
Speaker 1: They didn't tell me, they didn't tell me to scrap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just kind of it was I going to
Speaker 1: add that to my bag. And you know, because if
Speaker 1: I didn't, I don't know how long I would have
Speaker 1: survived playing forward. So right away the switch went off.
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, I'm going to be a fourth line bruiser.
Speaker 1: And that first year in the American League, I think
Speaker 1: I was there for fifty nine games and I ended
Speaker 1: up fighting twenty nine times, and I was getting my
Speaker 1: ship pushed in boys, I was getting my eyes pumped shot,
Speaker 1: I was fighting, you know, guys and guys. I think
Speaker 1: guys in the HL there were probably juicing. Yeah, at
Speaker 1: least a couple that I know. He is kind of
Speaker 1: like not like that, No, because those guys weren't showing
Speaker 1: up to NHL training camps, or if they were, they
Speaker 1: were waiting until afterward.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, And you think their juicing just because
Speaker 2: you were getting you're getting tossed like that.
Speaker 1: Well, I just think that there was money to be
Speaker 1: made in the enforcer position in the AHL. It's like
Speaker 1: it's almost like the guys were just as tough, if
Speaker 1: not tougher, in the HL, but because there were such
Speaker 1: knock knuckle draggers that that they couldn't play at that level. Yeah, nobody,
Speaker 1: they nobody would have fought them, and they were, they
Speaker 1: weren't good enough to where they wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: skate on NHL ace. So I took my lickings for
Speaker 1: for for that first year. And it's crazy because.
Speaker 3: How brdle was that, the taking those lickings, Like halfway
Speaker 3: through fight twenty nine times, you're sitting there at fifteen.
Speaker 3: You don't know you're fourteen more.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You'd have to go with hockey fights
Speaker 1: to see it. But it wasn't good, and you know
Speaker 1: I was I was learning and trying to survive, but
Speaker 1: it sucked because you were on the bus after the
Speaker 1: after the games, like traveling five hours on a bus
Speaker 1: back and you'd have these welts on your head and
Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to figure out how long can
Speaker 1: I keep doing this? Because I always used to get
Speaker 1: really nervous day of the game, you know, because you
Speaker 1: knew you were gonna you knew you were going to scrap,
Speaker 1: and you got up your teeth that night or you know,
Speaker 1: would you get knocked out to where it'd be messing
Speaker 1: you up.
Speaker 3: You're looking at the roster like, oh fuck, they got
Speaker 3: so and so who lights hats up?
Speaker 1: Some teams had you know, two three bruisers on them too.
Speaker 1: So I took my lickings that first year, and I
Speaker 1: was fortunate enough for the following season I actually started
Speaker 1: the year in the NHL. I ended up playing fifteen
Speaker 1: games in the show that year, but when I got
Speaker 1: sent back down. During my HL time, I think I
Speaker 1: actually got twenty nine exactly the same amount of fights
Speaker 1: back to back years in the American League. And that
Speaker 1: was probably the worst worst run as far as how
Speaker 1: much fighting I had to do, because my first year
Speaker 1: in the NHL it started deteriorating where there wasn't as
Speaker 1: much fighting. There weren't as much just heavyweights. In the NHL.
Speaker 1: You had to be able to at least play, and
Speaker 1: I think I had twenty in my first year in Phoenix,
Speaker 1: and then slowly afterward it was you know that it
Speaker 1: was fifteen, then it was ten, and the next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, it just it was not very relevant. Although
Speaker 1: I would say that fighting is kind of making a comeback.
Speaker 3: I was wondering about that. There's that company, that violent
Speaker 3: gentleman who's always got the hats to say, make hockey
Speaker 3: violent again. Love it, loved the company, love the stuff
Speaker 3: they didn't know, free shoutouts but I will say like
Speaker 3: it was like the nineties and early two thousands, like
Speaker 3: that's when dudes were who's the black French guy that
Speaker 3: was in Good Yeah, he was like, there's those dudes,
Speaker 3: those dudes that you had guys sitting on the bench
Speaker 3: just waiting. You need to kick up some dust. You
Speaker 3: send that dude out. When did they get away from that?
Speaker 1: I would probably say twenty ten is when when it
Speaker 1: and then and the problem problem too was media outlet
Speaker 1: started being very vocal about the CTE. Yeah, so there
Speaker 1: was a lot of pressure from the media, especially Canadian media,
Speaker 1: in order to weed it out, and even to the
Speaker 1: point in junior leagues to start it. When they were young,
Speaker 1: they implemented you were only allowed to fight ten times,
Speaker 1: and if you fought once, you would be out of
Speaker 1: that game, whereas before you can get up to three
Speaker 1: fights and the third fight you kicked out. So they
Speaker 1: started handling it at the lower levels and even in
Speaker 1: the OHL and those lower leagues that you talked about,
Speaker 1: the junior leagues, it's it's still the same where you
Speaker 1: can only fight I think ten times max. And even
Speaker 1: I think I believe in the AHL now, which is
Speaker 1: the league below is it's.
Speaker 3: Ten fight rule. In the NHL, play ten fights a season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also guys, guys are forced to wear
Speaker 1: advisors now, where that was more so for insurance purposes
Speaker 1: because in case you're hit in the puck with an
Speaker 1: eye or because he had hit the eye with a puck,
Speaker 1: a little reverse action there. So that's kind of around
Speaker 1: the time when when things really started getting nipped in
Speaker 1: the butt. And I would say that if it would
Speaker 1: have been more relevant, I might have been able to
Speaker 1: survive a couple more years, but I fighting and fighting
Speaker 1: would have been more. Yeah, but as it became less
Speaker 1: relevant and you need it to be a little bit
Speaker 1: better player, I just they didn't really find a need
Speaker 1: for me, and I had to go do it in
Speaker 1: the HL for my last three years, and by then
Speaker 1: I was like, oh fuck this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's that many difference from the AHL and
Speaker 3: the NHL's got to be a big difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was making like a little over
Speaker 1: league minimum by the end of my career, which is
Speaker 1: league minimum now I believe is five fifty five hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand.
Speaker 3: That's low for as many games as you guys play.
Speaker 3: That's in all the traveling out to do and as
Speaker 3: much time as you spend on a plane that's low.
Speaker 1: It might it might be back up to six up
Speaker 1: to six six fifty now. But in the AHL I
Speaker 1: was I was doing it for you know. My first
Speaker 1: year back down, I was making one hundred k, and
Speaker 1: then it went to one twenty five. Last year I
Speaker 1: made one thirty five, which yeah, at that point, you know,
Speaker 1: having having to put that face on every night, it
Speaker 1: was it wasn't really worth it, and my body was
Speaker 1: just completely banged up. But as I said, I think
Speaker 1: that I think that now that there are more social
Speaker 1: pressures and social discussions that are going on, less of
Speaker 1: the focuses about the fighting and the concussion stuff. So
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's starting to make its way back.
Speaker 1: There's a guy named Curtis Gabriel who just came up Ryan.
Speaker 1: Have you guys heard of Ryan Reeves. Yeah, he's another
Speaker 1: guy who has has really established himself. And this year,
Speaker 1: this year, I think there's more of it because of
Speaker 1: the COVID situation, and these teams are stuck in their
Speaker 1: own divisions because that's how they lined up the NHL,
Speaker 1: where you only play the teams in your division this
Speaker 1: year really, like there's an all Canadian division this year and.
Speaker 3: Canadians are loving it other all about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's yeah, it's you know, it just gets
Speaker 1: the rivalries going and the fact that you're playing these
Speaker 1: teams in most cases back to back nights because they're
Speaker 1: they're saving money on travel and stuff.
Speaker 3: You got that, And you guys are in the back
Speaker 3: of your head.
Speaker 1: I'm hating each other. They want to kill each other now,
Speaker 1: which has kind of juiced it up. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's juiced it up. You know.
Speaker 2: That's Uh, that's fascinating how much fighting plays into uh
Speaker 2: plays a role, and like being on a roster, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, you're like guys have to play
Speaker 2: a little more and intimidating.
Speaker 3: Like those guys up when Gretzky was playing, they had
Speaker 3: like a dude following her on the ice like if
Speaker 3: these are Gretzky, right.
Speaker 1: They go, ye, yeah you didn't and you're going as
Speaker 1: little bubble.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like if you got near him, like you know,
Speaker 3: they're sending somebody out like a quarter but next shift,
Speaker 3: like he's like a quarterback. Yeah, but he was. He's
Speaker 3: the great one. So it's not like a quarterback. It's
Speaker 3: like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers couldn't even get in.
Speaker 2: I'm talking like around Remember when Richard Sherman hit Marcus
Speaker 2: Mariot and it's kind of like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're running your rallying like that.
Speaker 1: Sucking over. Let me ask you, guys, you're getting jumped
Speaker 1: into the parking lot type ship. Are there guys who
Speaker 1: make NFL rosters just because they guys are teams know
Speaker 1: they're so savage and they hurt to hit guys.
Speaker 4: I don't know about them, because you've got to be
Speaker 4: able to play.
Speaker 1: The league is.
Speaker 3: So sensitive to towards hitting. Now, Like obviously, like nine ten,
Speaker 3: when all that city stuff was really coming up, they might,
Speaker 3: like you said, they must have gotten away from it
Speaker 3: a little bit. It's more social and that league that's
Speaker 3: still at their main focus is like how do we
Speaker 3: protect heads and stuff like that. So you start hitting
Speaker 3: dudes in the heads and going low, especially for the
Speaker 3: quarterback position, there's like they can't be touched. And the
Speaker 3: more status you have, obviously, the less you get touched.
Speaker 3: But like you know, there was a Vonte Berfect who's
Speaker 3: a linebacker played for the Bengals.
Speaker 1: The back.
Speaker 4: He wear a grill.
Speaker 1: What I was thinking of when I am question.
Speaker 3: He'd stomped dudes out, Sue when he was at the Lions,
Speaker 3: he was he'd be stomping on dudes all the time.
Speaker 1: Like, I'll tell you what the truth?
Speaker 4: That what he said? He said, Yeah, I'll tell you
Speaker 4: because I saw him one time. I apologize for what.
Speaker 3: Hey he went to Nebraska.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, little story because he stomped on Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Oh I remember that.
Speaker 2: I remember the off season we were in Nebraska and
Speaker 2: I was around him for something and we were riding
Speaker 2: to drop him off at the airport. And I was like,
Speaker 2: so because he would say, you know, the man upstairs,
Speaker 2: he know he knows the truth. Because he basically denied
Speaker 2: that he intentionally did it, yeaheah, I.
Speaker 1: Remember eventually did it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I was like uh, I was like, Sue, so you
Speaker 2: didn't intentionally stop on a rod And he's like, what
Speaker 2: do you mean? I was like, hey, come on, did
Speaker 2: you did you intentionally? He goes, He goes, we can
Speaker 2: pull this car up and I'll drag you out and
Speaker 2: stomp on you if you want to talk about it.
Speaker 4: Oh, He's like, joke, Yeah, but he's like joking with me, you.
Speaker 1: Know how he jokes, Oh for sure.
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, it's all good. We don't need to
Speaker 4: go there.
Speaker 3: Sit in the car the rest of the time.
Speaker 1: Look out the window.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you're like, I'll walk.
Speaker 1: It going thirty five and.
Speaker 3: Window just out of there. Dude, there's a but I
Speaker 3: will say, there are dudes that, like, there's a couple
Speaker 3: of guys sues one of them. When you go to
Speaker 3: play those guys pends how much like sacks some dudes
Speaker 3: have because with the offensive line like perspective, you play
Speaker 3: against these defensive linemen, and some of those dudes are
Speaker 3: like gangsters, Like they get not legit like gangsters, but
Speaker 3: like they fucking get after it. They don't funk around,
Speaker 3: and they're like really good athletes blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: So a lot of.
Speaker 3: Old linemen will be like, hey, don't don't talk to
Speaker 3: so and so, because I've developed myself into a bit
Speaker 3: of a talker and so like guys on my team,
Speaker 3: but hey, don't talk to me.
Speaker 1: Tell me. It's like the guys in warm up who
Speaker 1: are like, hey, tapping the guy in the shin pad
Speaker 1: from a cross, you know, Hey, good luck tonight.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that bullshit dude, that's that ship makes me mad,
Speaker 3: Like you hit a guy. He chips over and said, no.
Speaker 1: Man, you're good. To help you out. I'll get you up.
Speaker 1: And they like help buddy up and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You don't help guys up. You guys, I will never
Speaker 1: help I never helped somebody up, and I've never gotten
Speaker 1: help up. I've only got I've only got help up once.
Speaker 1: I was wanta tore my a c L.
Speaker 3: But I've done the about doubt and they put the handout,
Speaker 3: and they put their hand out and I'll move it away.
Speaker 1: I'm about that, I'm about this. Yeah, you put it
Speaker 1: back a little bit.
Speaker 3: If you fucking guys talking shit to you, wearing Advisor's
Speaker 3: on the roll down their window before you talk to you,
Speaker 3: you know, like it's nice to have a little bit
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Speaker 1: Who's the Who's the Scariest Guy? You line across.
Speaker 3: That's a tough question because then my ego gets in it.
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm thinking, well, I'm not scared of nobody,
Speaker 3: but those dudes you like, like you think about twice,
Speaker 3: like you gotta you're always got to be on.
Speaker 4: Your Yeah, who's somebody that makes you lay up a
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Speaker 1: And shit, if you're not looking the whole time, he'll
Speaker 1: try to get your cheap shot. That dude is he
Speaker 1: lives in Arizona right now, debo. What's his name?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Played for the Steelers for a long time.
Speaker 4: Oh, James Harrison. James Harrison.
Speaker 3: So my rookie year, we're playing We're playing, uh, the
Speaker 3: Steelers Monday Night football. Zach Mettenberger's our quarterback, rookie first
Speaker 3: play of the game pick six, But then he like
Speaker 3: threw for Rick a rookie record. But at the beginning
Speaker 3: of the game, linman are coming up to me going, hey, listen,
Speaker 3: don't talk to James Harrison.
Speaker 1: Don't even speak to him, otherwise you'll, you know, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get some shit you don't want. So at the
Speaker 1: first play of.
Speaker 3: The game, I go and I cut him, and I'm
Speaker 3: dog shit. At cuttings when you go out somebody's legs
Speaker 3: and then knocks them down to get the ball out fast.
Speaker 3: I go and cut them and I'm like, that's fucking right,
Speaker 3: you puss like some some elementary type of ship talking right.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, fuck you want coming all day?
Speaker 3: I'm a rookie and he just looks at me, dark
Speaker 3: ass visor on walks away. The next play, we came
Speaker 3: out because you threw a pick six. I we go
Speaker 3: like outside zone to the right. He chases me down,
Speaker 3: grabs me by my legs and gator rolls my legs
Speaker 3: and like.
Speaker 1: Tries to like end it for the boy. Try to
Speaker 1: end the season right then and day. What's a gator
Speaker 1: roll the ladies?
Speaker 3: You ever seen you ever seen a gator grab like
Speaker 3: a chicken.
Speaker 4: Or and it's a gator grab a chicken.
Speaker 1: Like a leg or stuffing like a lamb leg or
Speaker 1: some ship. I don't know what was he what was
Speaker 1: he trying to injure he was.
Speaker 3: Trying to just twist my leg and twist my ankle
Speaker 3: or something like that, Like he was trying to get
Speaker 3: me out of the game fast.
Speaker 4: Oh boy from Jacksonville. Hit you. She shaded you didn't
Speaker 4: he Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Hit me in the ribs that one time. That was
Speaker 1: when we had the team. Yeah yeah, we.
Speaker 3: Were playing respawn to Harrison No. I kind of bitch
Speaker 3: that after that.
Speaker 1: Dude. I was a rookie. I was sitting there. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, yeah, all right, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: I see you rest again.
Speaker 3: I was like, God, damn, dude, that dude kind of
Speaker 3: don't even look at him. He's over here and you're
Speaker 3: he's just k talking to you now, and you're like,
Speaker 3: what's the play? What's the play?
Speaker 1: Block and acting he's a beast.
Speaker 3: That's where most of that ship goes down, though, And
Speaker 3: you guys don't have that as like the breaks were
Speaker 3: run to play it's fifteen seconds. Then you have forty
Speaker 3: five seconds to the next play. So we'll be sitting
Speaker 3: there and dudes will be drawing back and forth. Things
Speaker 3: go down a little bit. Like we played Denver twenty
Speaker 3: sixteen or something like that, and Harry Douglas, one of
Speaker 3: our wide receivers, went and cut a corner, cut him down.
Speaker 3: It was a great block. He heard him. He had
Speaker 3: to go out for a couple of plays, but a
Speaker 3: keep to leave, Who's like, oh yeah, he's an O
Speaker 3: G dude. He gets out of the podcast now he's
Speaker 3: oh he's got he's had a podcast now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he played for he played for the Patriots.
Speaker 4: Play for the Patriots for a long time and commentator.
Speaker 3: Yeah he doesn't a job too, Like he does a
Speaker 3: really good job and he's just snatch chains, right.
Speaker 4: I think that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 3: He used to go to dudes and like, dude to
Speaker 3: be wearing chains like fat Chance and now these little
Speaker 3: pussy chains and like fat ones up here and he
Speaker 3: go up and fucking yeah on the ground he'd be
Speaker 3: like talking to him, like you and maybe John back
Speaker 3: before the pain, all right, and like rip his ship
Speaker 3: and walk away.
Speaker 4: It was Michael Crabtree.
Speaker 1: I think it was Crabtree.
Speaker 3: He did to a Crastry twice and it was like
Speaker 3: a video.
Speaker 1: A guy would wear a chain on the field is standing.
Speaker 3: I wear a chain every single game.
Speaker 1: He didn't really legit.
Speaker 3: I have to wear like a chain that's like this
Speaker 3: so you can see it. I want to get a
Speaker 3: grill too, because I was like, I think it'd be
Speaker 3: hilariously some tatted white boy from Arizona looking like the.
Speaker 4: Dark with a dark visor dark visors.
Speaker 3: I think it looks hard and then you get a
Speaker 3: dog collar. Hey, that'd be sick, that'd be something on it. Hey,
Speaker 3: there's no bad ideas here.
Speaker 1: Do it real tight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't really breathe tight like I'm doing this,
Speaker 3: but I really taken away from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The ground.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's dudes you get nervous about playing against. You
Speaker 3: get nervous about, like like when von Miller's on, Like
Speaker 3: von Miller is a dude, You're like, fuck man, his
Speaker 3: spin moves filthy, he's fast enough off the line, and
Speaker 3: because he can get you going backwards so fast, his
Speaker 3: bullrust turns into something legit, Like he's got a good
Speaker 3: long arm. But he's a dude that's like got stupid.
Speaker 3: Ben Miles Garrett is a similar guy.
Speaker 1: It's like that what do you mean by Ben? How?
Speaker 1: How when you see when you you see photos of
Speaker 1: them where they're like they're like yeah, like this.
Speaker 3: And their ankles are up like they're like yeah, and
Speaker 3: you're like and how it's insane. It's impressive, dude, It's
Speaker 3: just impressive.
Speaker 1: Ship that vonn can like get to the ground like
Speaker 1: von will be like Won will be on the ground
Speaker 1: in a full sprint and his knees will be like
Speaker 1: this far off the ground, he'll still be running. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when I when I originally asked the question is
Speaker 1: like we there's always these guys where they're like some
Speaker 1: once they the wires crossed, it's like they're trying to
Speaker 1: they're trying to injure you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that that's the the James Harrison and James Harrison.
Speaker 3: I don't want to like soil the dude's name, but
Speaker 3: he came at me that one time. But it's one
Speaker 3: of those things like some dudes just get like you said,
Speaker 3: the wires cross, Like you go and you start talking
Speaker 3: to somebody you're trying to take they're seeking you.
Speaker 1: Out the whole. Yeah, look at it.
Speaker 3: I guess, so, I guess that's what it is. But
Speaker 3: like you play against these guys and they just they
Speaker 3: get fucking mad for whatever reason. Somebody can't control their tempers.
Speaker 3: And like the cool thing about football is it's dudes
Speaker 3: from everywhere, right, Like it's dude's from the country, like
Speaker 3: the country in Iowa.
Speaker 1: Like it's just.
Speaker 4: Like they're just hicks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's dudes from you know, California, sir for
Speaker 1: cats and there's dude from Inner City, and like everyone's
Speaker 1: mixed in and everyone's personality kind of comes out, and
Speaker 1: then your bred your entire life to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: don't be a bitch, Like you're tough, You're you're a man,
Speaker 1: You're this, yeah, stop crying, don't cry, and you're some
Speaker 1: of these guys are six ten and yeah and just reh.
Speaker 3: Yeah and so like, but you were like you're literally
Speaker 3: brainwashed your entire life. When you play sports, like you
Speaker 3: just feel like, oh, I have to be the toughest
Speaker 3: guy out there, and then when you get in the league,
Speaker 3: there's dudes that can actually like question your toughness. And
Speaker 3: so it's like, how much like people just but it's
Speaker 3: a bow up for sixty minutes.
Speaker 1: The other guy that comes to mind is that Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1: It's just he's a monster.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 1: He's so thick. He's so thin, bro, it'll.
Speaker 4: Say, and it's like, both, yeah, he knows he's dense.
Speaker 3: He's super dense.
Speaker 1: But the guys I think five to eleven, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's not that big. I think he's like six foot.
Speaker 1: He's just insanetures and you know, it looks like he's
Speaker 1: just like a fridge.
Speaker 4: He looks like a bodybuilder. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Does he plays the three technique and a three techniques
Speaker 3: like an interior defensi lignment? Usually interier defensive linemans are
Speaker 3: like in the three hundred rings. He is just as
Speaker 3: dominant in the run game as he is in the
Speaker 3: past game, and he's two hundred sixty five pounds shredded
Speaker 3: and he lifts cats out of the.
Speaker 1: So so is that kind of changing the position to
Speaker 1: where they're maybe drafting smaller guys who were playing that position.
Speaker 4: I think it depends on Aaron Donald's kind of more
Speaker 4: of a unicorn.
Speaker 3: He's in his own area. Like the way the team
Speaker 3: the league is really developed from a defensive standpoint is
Speaker 3: like these noseguards and these three techniques used to be
Speaker 3: these big, like gap eating cats like three forty and
Speaker 3: like can't move them so you can't run, and then
Speaker 3: third down comes you cycle them out for some fast dudes,
Speaker 3: and like now you're finding more three techniques and noses that, like,
Speaker 3: can we be more diverse than there? Maybe two ninety
Speaker 3: five now than like three or five, but not like
Speaker 3: three fifty. Who's a Vince wolfork, Like he's a perfect example.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: He is, He's like massive, bro, He's taking both these
Speaker 3: sides right here. Yeah, and I played with the pot road.
Speaker 3: He had a big barrel on him. How did he
Speaker 3: move that fast? He had a big He was low
Speaker 3: key kind of fast. His feet got this far off
Speaker 3: the ground too. The worst technique would.
Speaker 4: Show up in the overall too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I did a Budweiser grill out thing with a
Speaker 1: content piece and he was the nicest guy I could. Oh,
Speaker 1: he was incredible, But I'd never understand how how a
Speaker 1: guy who was building that like I said, he had
Speaker 1: a barrel on him, yeah, hit a belly. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: yet he was so athletic.
Speaker 4: Dude, It's crazy.
Speaker 2: He almost he almost killed somebody that we did throw
Speaker 2: that practice. We did joint practice. It was the Texans
Speaker 2: and the Red or the Washington football team.
Speaker 1: Did he still do these? It was the worst idea
Speaker 1: that would be so stupid as guys.
Speaker 2: Players hate it, Coaches like it because you're going against
Speaker 2: other Pete's actual Yeah, and Vince Wilfork Texans Washington football
Speaker 2: team scrapped.
Speaker 4: It was like third day. Tensions were high. Scrapped pretty early.
Speaker 2: There's like a full back in seven on seven who
Speaker 2: cuts somebody down? Seven on seven is just passing. It's
Speaker 2: just like flag football. You're just out there passing to somebody, right,
Speaker 2: and fullback comes out and tries to and cut somebody
Speaker 2: on the defensive side.
Speaker 4: And there's no like kidding in seven on seven.
Speaker 2: But anyway, there's this huge fight and you look, you
Speaker 2: were on the tape back and you see Ben Big
Speaker 2: Vince Wilfork, bro, and he's like reaching back, Bro decades back,
Speaker 2: comes up top and just misses our tight end and
Speaker 2: I swear he would have killed him. Swear he would have.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter like you're getting landed with that shot.
Speaker 2: Vince Wilfork's in the air. The air, Yeah, he was
Speaker 2: a superman. He literally just tried jumping, like aside from
Speaker 2: somebody getting over top and Superman punching.
Speaker 4: Somebody, you now, Paul.
Speaker 1: And he also on the jumbo tron at the Predators game.
Speaker 1: Aren't you rushing Beers over?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Cooch Beers Catfish is dude and the lineman, Yeah that's
Speaker 3: in the old lineman. They wanted they really what happened
Speaker 3: was the way that the whole thing went down was
Speaker 3: they wanted Marcus Marriotta out there and Marcus, if you
Speaker 3: know him, he's like, he doesn't want the attention, but
Speaker 3: you buddy does so like I and they're like, hey,
Speaker 3: here's the deal, we just want you has a twirl towels. Well,
Speaker 3: I hooked up with some dude and I know, like,
Speaker 3: you know, the Redskins and the reds Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I said it. Shouldn't have said it. The Washington Oh
Speaker 3: we're done, We're done. Yeah, the Red Wings they do
Speaker 3: the octopus when they make the playoffs. Well, the Predators
Speaker 3: do catfish obviously not. I want to explain that to you. Well,
Speaker 3: we like I called some guy up. The guy called
Speaker 3: himself Catfish Jake. He's I don't you know, he's a buddy.
Speaker 3: Here's a brother of a guy who's on a radio show.
Speaker 3: He goes out and finds me a catfish. And we
Speaker 3: put that thing up d and the people lost their
Speaker 3: ship over it.
Speaker 4: Dude, I mean it was beers.
Speaker 1: They went viral. I saw it. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. Well it's good when it's good when
Speaker 1: other sports bring attention to hockey, because I mean, football
Speaker 1: is the North America wise, it's the creata right, So
Speaker 1: getting you guys, uh you know, crushing drinks out of
Speaker 1: catfish is usually good for for views.
Speaker 3: I've always had this dream too in Nashville because it's
Speaker 3: such a small town. Like there's musicians, there's hockey players,
Speaker 3: there's football players, student there's soccer players too. They just
Speaker 3: got in a couple of years ago. But like, I
Speaker 3: think it'd be so rad if like, because I love
Speaker 3: the college atmosphere I talk about all the time, like
Speaker 3: the hockey boys hanging out with all these different sports,
Speaker 3: going out partying together. I've always thought at my head,
Speaker 3: like Nashville could be the perfect place for that. You
Speaker 3: get all the boys together, hockey, football, even the sound,
Speaker 3: the Triple A baseball guys go take over a bar
Speaker 3: one day. It's a blast, dude, And we try to
Speaker 3: do that up a bunch.
Speaker 1: I actually I ended up doing an NHL first time
Speaker 1: or it was a concept where we take somebody their
Speaker 1: first ever hockey game, although I think that Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: had already been to one because he's from Nashville. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, and we brought him and his girl to
Speaker 1: to to a game because oh really yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was a good time. Very interesting guy obviously, very
Speaker 1: very confident in the heck of a football. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: been on the pot with us too.
Speaker 3: He's awesome. He came on, Yeah, he came on.
Speaker 4: We got him the damns.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, we first started out. They put him on
Speaker 1: the Jumbo tron and people were like, oh, we hate
Speaker 1: you because he was playing in Jacksonville at the time, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We took him to Nashville.
Speaker 1: We took him to a Nashville Predators game, him and
Speaker 1: his girl.
Speaker 3: And they lost their mind on him.
Speaker 1: Hunh oh. They put him on the jumbo tron and
Speaker 1: people were snapped because he's a bit of a low
Speaker 1: And the reason why it happened was because he went
Speaker 1: on Twitter and he was spouting off that he he goes,
Speaker 1: he goes, I can make the NHL if I trained
Speaker 1: for six months.
Speaker 3: Some dumb ship spout all, I can't even skate in
Speaker 3: six months.
Speaker 1: No. I saw him shooting. We went down afterward and
Speaker 1: we were shooting. He couldn't even he couldn't even elevate
Speaker 1: the pucks.
Speaker 4: Did you ask him about the six months of training?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because that we did on video. Because it
Speaker 1: was the whole reason that we ended up linking up
Speaker 1: with him. And doing the the NHL first time or
Speaker 1: as he called it. But yeah, I know it's a
Speaker 1: football is you guys have some very very unique personalities
Speaker 1: and I wish hockey was more like that. As far
Speaker 1: as guys putting themselves out there, do you think.
Speaker 3: That's like a it's an unspoken thing because it seems
Speaker 3: like most all hockey guys are like that.
Speaker 4: What do you mean a suit?
Speaker 1: It's okay for instance, like you guys all show up
Speaker 1: without whatever you guys want to wear. It's tradition that
Speaker 1: hockey players show up in suits, although I think that
Speaker 1: that's changing. So it's it's frowned upon for certain guys.
Speaker 1: For everyone to show their individual personality, although throughout the
Speaker 1: course of history there have been guys to who have
Speaker 1: done it, like the Jeremy ronis uh to try to
Speaker 1: think of. I mean Austin Matthews is from here. You
Speaker 1: start seeing him who he posts more on Instagram with
Speaker 1: these outfits coming into the rink and you know, showing
Speaker 1: off their own style and personality, doing these fun commercials
Speaker 1: played for the He's another guy.
Speaker 3: I a I have a by personally. I don't know
Speaker 3: that this is true or not, but he gets traded.
Speaker 3: He's been traded a couple times, and he's such a
Speaker 3: good hockey player, and I feel like, is that because
Speaker 3: he's talking too much these owners he's I don't think
Speaker 3: he's as good as he once was.
Speaker 1: I think people were very surprised when they traded him
Speaker 1: out of Montreal because he was at the top of
Speaker 1: his game. It was I mean, it was I would
Speaker 1: consider it a fair trade. Like Shay Weber, people overreacted,
Speaker 1: I think because he was so bold in Montreal. But
Speaker 1: Shay Weber, he's played for Team Canada. He's like one
Speaker 1: of the best leaders the games ever seen. I think
Speaker 1: he just played in his thousand games. So at first
Speaker 1: I could see where people were surprised because PK was
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit better as far as his analytic
Speaker 1: numbers and what he was producing. But I think throughout
Speaker 1: since the trades happened, it's leveled off. People went hyperbolic
Speaker 1: because it was Montreal, which is the hockey center of
Speaker 1: the hockey universit well and there at Toronto. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that that people tried to correlate it to
Speaker 1: because he was so you know, flamboyant and he would
Speaker 1: show his personality off, which you know, I think Mark
Speaker 1: Bergevin that the GM who is in Montreal is a
Speaker 1: little bit more old school, and maybe he wasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: a fan of him taking that actual attention. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't you'd have to ask Mark Burg and I
Speaker 1: could see where people would say that. But but yeah,
Speaker 1: he was definitely a guy who who put himself out
Speaker 1: there where he's all over his social channels and branding himself, which, hey,
Speaker 1: who am I? I'm I did the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: All the power to you. I have very similar personalities
Speaker 1: to you, guys. H I don't mind being the silly
Speaker 1: guy on camera. Yeah, let's see where it brings us.
Speaker 1: And also, you know, you guys are going to you
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be done playing one day. What what?
Speaker 1: What else can you do? You know what? What type
Speaker 1: of doors is it going to open? In your post career?
Speaker 1: You get to keep doing even just this as it
Speaker 1: keeps growing. Well, at least it keeps your mind occupied.
Speaker 3: It's a creative outlet that a lot of people don't get.
Speaker 1: People people judged me when I was doing it and
Speaker 1: they didn't understand where I was spouting off on Twitter
Speaker 1: or doing content pieces and I'm like, fuck you. You
Speaker 1: guys are very narrow minded and you're worried about what
Speaker 1: is happening here right now, and especially if you're a GM,
Speaker 1: you're worried about your the team that you're being a
Speaker 1: GM of. I'm worried about when you cut my ass
Speaker 1: because fighting is not relevant. Yeah, I'm setting myself up
Speaker 1: for the backside.
Speaker 2: And when and when you cut me, are you going
Speaker 2: to make sure I'm taking care of it.
Speaker 1: It's cutthroat, so cutthroat.
Speaker 3: That's the thing I have an issue with all the
Speaker 3: time is like when we first started this podcast two
Speaker 3: years ago, like I told Wills and hey, I'm not
Speaker 3: doing during the season. I got to make sure I
Speaker 3: should say face to fans. I don't want the coaches
Speaker 3: to be mad and shit, I want people think I'm
Speaker 3: not focused. Well, even when I wasn't doing it and
Speaker 3: we would lose a game, it was fucking fans were passed,
Speaker 3: people were mad. And there is like a thing with
Speaker 3: being an offensive linement specifically, is you're kind of told like, hey,
Speaker 3: you should just be in the corner, let the receivers,
Speaker 3: let the quarterbacks and running back to you worry about
Speaker 3: particular the merchandise quarterback exactly. And when we did this,
Speaker 3: it was like a leap, a big time leap for
Speaker 3: me because I love like all about being the set
Speaker 3: of pretention. I enjoyed the hell out of it. I
Speaker 3: love making people laugh, I love talking, I love being
Speaker 3: around people. And it's like I was always dipping my
Speaker 3: toe in like what should I do? What shouldn't I do?
Speaker 3: And once we did this, it was like we were.
Speaker 1: The first podcast by active football players, and now there's
Speaker 1: three or four. You know, ain't that a good feeling?
Speaker 3: And it's crazy, how dude.
Speaker 1: Any fun to me in the first where you're you're
Speaker 1: feeling not copying anything innovative, I've shot it.
Speaker 2: Definitely nervous, and we know it's like they were the
Speaker 2: first ten podcasts we did.
Speaker 3: It was like we had both in our trucks and
Speaker 3: our bus was like behind some random warehouse, like and
Speaker 3: we'd be driving home we college, so they'd be like, hey,
Speaker 3: how do you think that went?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, stupid security involved anything you're but you got
Speaker 1: to dive in and you got to take your lickings
Speaker 1: like anything else.
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Speaker 1: I was asked by Witt who was the real he
Speaker 1: thought of the idea. He said, Hey, let's start a podcast.
Speaker 1: Rear Admiral ended up reaching out because I said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: still playing, but I'd love to when I'm done. So
Speaker 1: I deferred while I was playing. And part of it,
Speaker 1: I think was because I'd gone through that period when
Speaker 1: I started Twitter and I went crazy on it.
Speaker 4: That's when you made a lot your stick.
Speaker 2: Like I was so new as you were, but it's
Speaker 2: not like you were some household starter name on a team.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was saying the craziest ship on Twitter when
Speaker 1: I first started, like thing that.
Speaker 4: Was like an example.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I say like, ladies, make sure you shave
Speaker 1: up your bushes like Friday night. It's just like so
Speaker 1: stupid and immature, like the craziest Oh. I got called
Speaker 1: into our GM's office like five times while I was
Speaker 1: playing for the Coyotes, being like what what is this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember I instagram something like spouting off about how
Speaker 1: the Hotel Fairmont in Winnipeg was they took nine dollars
Speaker 1: for this, like little Fiji bottle. So I was like
Speaker 1: fuck off Fairmont and posted it. Next day after pregame skate,
Speaker 1: I get called in the office and the coaches like,
Speaker 1: shit down and he points to his computers like what
Speaker 1: the fuck is this? And I look over and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, like I completely forgot about it because it
Speaker 1: was the night before. They're like, they're like that the
Speaker 1: Pharamont's threatening to kick us out of the hotel day
Speaker 1: of the game. I'm a healthy scratch, I'm like a peasant,
Speaker 1: like I'm completely irrelevant, and I'm They're threatening to kick
Speaker 1: our whole team out day of a game of the
Speaker 1: hotel because I was spouting off about the nine dollars.
Speaker 1: And the worst part about it is like you know,
Speaker 1: when you're young and you're just being an arrogant fuck.
Speaker 1: They provided water as we come in, just like come
Speaker 1: on to have a little galer water, Like come on,
Speaker 1: I was being a fucking idiot trying to be funny.
Speaker 3: That's a ship like people. Then this can go for everybody.
Speaker 3: So I hope all of our beautiful fans are listening.
Speaker 3: Stop taking yourself so fucking serious exactly, because it's like
Speaker 3: you're not like you're not gonna change, Like, we can't
Speaker 3: just all go to this PC world. We can't do it,
Speaker 3: this world walking around like robots. I'm gonna have a
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make out with a gun if that shit
Speaker 3: starts happening too.
Speaker 1: Much, you know what I'm saying. Hey, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm just that Joe guy.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. But when I so, so when I know
Speaker 1: this gun bear like, okay, I have been in a
Speaker 1: dark place. So so when I started it, it was
Speaker 1: a completely different world. This whole cancel culture. It was
Speaker 1: non existent, right, you could let it fly. Although I
Speaker 1: had an original account just bus Nasty. And the reason
Speaker 1: why it's called buz Nasty two point oh is because
Speaker 1: I deleted my first account because my agent called me.
Speaker 1: He says, you need to get the fuck off this
Speaker 1: app like you are going to get suspended and you
Speaker 1: were going to get sent down. So here's what happened.
Speaker 1: So Lou Lamarillo was in New Jersey at the time,
Speaker 1: and he offered Ilia Kovalchuk, who was a big time
Speaker 1: free agent, this insanely front loaded deal. So it was
Speaker 1: kind of manipulating the CBA. But he was so lou
Speaker 1: Lamrell is a genius. He's a Hall of Famer for sure,
Speaker 1: one of the best gms ever, so he found a
Speaker 1: way around it. So then once they sent it to
Speaker 1: the league, the league shut it down. And I was
Speaker 1: spouting off about how many lap dances you could buy
Speaker 1: with this crazy deal that no one had ever gotten
Speaker 1: in the NHL. And then when it got shut down,
Speaker 1: I said, I said, sorry, sorry communists back to the
Speaker 1: Soviet and you know, I would never say it now,
Speaker 1: and I was just trying to make a joke and
Speaker 1: it was pretty probably it was prejudiced more than anything.
Speaker 1: And that's when I deleted my first account, and then
Speaker 1: I and then what happened was is the team there
Speaker 1: was enough people back then who were willing to defend me.
Speaker 1: So they were calling the Coyotes being like, why did
Speaker 1: you guys make him delete his account? Like let people
Speaker 1: fucking joke around?
Speaker 4: Oh shit that yeah, They're like, we're gonna go and
Speaker 4: sell you on who was going about?
Speaker 3: These people were like four threats. How many followers you
Speaker 3: having this account?
Speaker 1: By this time I probably had fifteen twenty thousand. Oh
Speaker 1: so it wasn't like loyal loyal, Oh so you got
Speaker 1: them fifteen? How many players multiplayers get wild amount of followers?
Speaker 3: Wild? Yeah, like dudes that are like, no fourth round,
Speaker 3: your fourth dude.
Speaker 1: I was. I was a president nobody in the NHL,
Speaker 1: and I had a million followers on it was. It
Speaker 1: was because I was on there all day just spouting off,
Speaker 1: joking around with the fans, so so the so they
Speaker 1: were like, we're going to some people even were like
Speaker 1: we're not going to renew our season tickets like and
Speaker 1: they were like, yo, dude, are you telling people that
Speaker 1: you made us delete your account? And uh and I'm
Speaker 1: like no, Like my agent called me and he told
Speaker 1: me to get the fuck off because he might suspend
Speaker 1: me or something and I'll never forget my agent said,
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes, nothing good can come of this,
Speaker 1: And man, was he fucking we're still boys. I actually
Speaker 1: the other day he's the man. But uh so the
Speaker 1: team was like, hey, listen, why don't you come back
Speaker 1: and we'll reboot it and we're going to monitor it
Speaker 1: so you don't say anything too too crazy. Wow, As
Speaker 1: I said, I got called into the GM's office like
Speaker 1: for literally that first training camp, the lady Shavir Bushes
Speaker 1: get ready for the weekend called in the office during
Speaker 1: training camp, what is this? What is this? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh fu, sorry, I was just fucking joking around, trying
Speaker 1: to make people laugh, and I think they knew it
Speaker 1: was all in good spirit. But uh yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: definitely transforming. And the good news is though, now I
Speaker 1: don't really take to Twitter to joke around much anymore
Speaker 1: because everything just gets taken out of contact people. People
Speaker 1: just want to go there to argue.
Speaker 3: Witter is tough, like Twitter, like that.
Speaker 1: Instagram, and and thankfully for podcasts, you don't need you
Speaker 1: don't need to push the button to subscribe and come listen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this isn't being forced down your throat. I want to
Speaker 1: come stop and hang out and see what works.
Speaker 3: If there was a way to force it on somebody's throat,
Speaker 3: we would have done it by now.
Speaker 1: We would have paid for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, So we pay for followers if we can
Speaker 3: get Yeah, Twitter's like I just treated like my group
Speaker 3: chat like it's just like a group I tagged three
Speaker 3: times a week and wheel ship and then like he's like,
Speaker 3: can't wait to hey in old golfing, which Tarror likes
Speaker 3: golfing at tayl La want seventies. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 3: well I get like.
Speaker 2: Or like, I'll just tweet regular stuff and people will
Speaker 2: just tag you. And I'm literally thinking in my mind,
Speaker 2: I know Taylor's looking. It's like, I don't care be alone.
Speaker 3: I think it's so funny. I love it when people
Speaker 3: take shit on Twitter and like make it a thing.
Speaker 3: I do enjoy that they do that ship that's funny.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it took on my mind of its own.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I went from being an extremely irrelevant player
Speaker 1: to to hanging out on social media to where you know,
Speaker 1: we and then and all of a sudden, when I retire,
Speaker 1: I find up linking up with that podcast that recommended
Speaker 1: and uh and here we are. What do you mean recommend?
Speaker 1: You talking about Svin chickles. So Wit on Twitter was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to start a podcast. I had no clue
Speaker 1: what podcasts were.
Speaker 4: Were you guys boys?
Speaker 1: Are you? Oh? Yeah? We played together in Pittsburgh, And
Speaker 1: the original concept that we thought of is we actually
Speaker 1: after playing together in Pittsburgh, I went my own way.
Speaker 1: He ended up getting traded off. He had a tough
Speaker 1: ending to his career where he battled injuries and he
Speaker 1: was a far better player than I was. He was
Speaker 1: he was snapping tape tape passes to Sidney Crosby. I
Speaker 1: ended up signing I think a twenty four million dollar deal.
Speaker 3: Good for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got a nice ticket. And you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think it ended the you know, the way that
Speaker 1: he wanted. And you know, I talked about how he
Speaker 1: ended up in Russia and all that, and when he
Speaker 1: got home he was probably born and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you anybody want to start up a podcast? And he
Speaker 1: tagged me and another guy named Kolbe Armstrong who we
Speaker 1: played with, and I messaged back, I said, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe when I retire, but right now no, kind of
Speaker 1: similar to what you were talking about. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want that attention. Yeah, because I know, but
Speaker 1: you wanted it, you didn't know, you knew you want
Speaker 1: But I just got sent.
Speaker 4: To the office.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, because podcast. If I was gonna do it,
Speaker 1: I was gonna let it fly. And at the time
Speaker 1: I didn't have the girlfriend I'm dating now, and and
Speaker 1: and I had some pretty wild stories, like I I
Speaker 1: told stories on there about like girls I was having
Speaker 1: sex with that like ship my bed, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like you know this it was.
Speaker 3: Whatever was least once in your life we had done something.
Speaker 1: We had left wing. We had left We'll talk about.
Speaker 6: That like we had we had left wing media going
Speaker 6: crazy in Canada about some of the ship we were saying,
Speaker 6: but like I did, you know, I didn't care because
Speaker 6: it hadn't reached the point to it is now where
Speaker 6: as I've toned her down.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah. And then and then r A reached
Speaker 1: out to him, was like, hey, if he's not willing
Speaker 1: to do it, I'll do it. And and then that's
Speaker 1: when a call came together. But like I said, at
Speaker 1: the time, I had no clue what podcasts were. I
Speaker 1: was like, what is this world? And and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they started popping off. And then Joe Rogan
Speaker 1: kind of became a thing. And I think that he
Speaker 1: he made it a little bit more major. She made
Speaker 1: it cooler for sure, because it was like NPR before
Speaker 1: that or like, you know, he'd been doing it forever,
Speaker 1: like even freaking is.
Speaker 3: So it's so incredible. I would love to be on
Speaker 3: his pocket, like, oh, it's unbelievable. The ship he talks
Speaker 3: about his insight, he got He's He's the only podcast
Speaker 3: I really listened to before I will and then we
Speaker 3: will put me on a couple of other dudes. It
Speaker 3: was that was like the reason why we started doing podcasts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because and uh, well I was going back, so
Speaker 1: we ended up going to Saint Louis on a PTO.
Speaker 1: So we signed this. Uh we would go to training
Speaker 1: camp and try to make the team. I knew I
Speaker 1: had no shot because they had Reeves there at the time.
Speaker 1: I think they had somebody else who fought, and I
Speaker 1: thought Witt had a better chance to make the team.
Speaker 1: But we were hanging out every day together after we
Speaker 1: would go for for our training camp session, and we thought, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't we have this show where we all show
Speaker 1: up to a locker room with our gear and we
Speaker 1: just have beers in it. We never actually end up
Speaker 1: getting dressed, but we just tell all these old stories.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how the concept started. And basically
Speaker 1: it's really transformed into that where we always get a
Speaker 1: guest every show, and and and you know, we interviewed
Speaker 1: the young guys who are a lot more timid, who
Speaker 1: are still playing but getting the old guys on to share.
Speaker 3: Those are the best ones. They don't give a ship,
Speaker 3: they don't give a a GM to listen to.
Speaker 4: Is it the best?
Speaker 1: Just being kind of retired and yeah, it's it's great.
Speaker 1: I don't got to back up my body anymore and talk.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you guys ever have any of these
Speaker 1: retired guys one get someone from.
Speaker 3: The Yeah, we had Chad Johnson.
Speaker 2: I know you're saying somebody back from the nineties where
Speaker 2: they might have been snorting coke before games and stuff.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, where it was it you know,
Speaker 1: they weren't even making that much money because they were
Speaker 1: like that. That's kind of where hockey was at one point,
Speaker 1: where where guys had off season jobs. Yeah, in the
Speaker 1: seventies and stuff, and it was just a lot crazier U.
Speaker 1: Chad Ocho Cinco is definitely a guy that you guys
Speaker 1: had him on.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He was as bro.
Speaker 1: He was dude.
Speaker 3: He was He'd sit there, he lit up a cigar
Speaker 3: on the bus, contact high for myself and then he
Speaker 3: got a phone call him and I'll be asking him
Speaker 3: a question. He'd be like, hold on, hey, what's up.
Speaker 1: Well, I should call somebody like show people and stuff
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, he's just as good now as.
Speaker 3: He He's killing it, dude, he's got to be. He
Speaker 3: started doing this I Am Athlete podcast.
Speaker 1: That's really I've seen a bunch of clips, the very
Speaker 1: open even about their personal life.
Speaker 3: And yeah, Brandon Marshall I think started that, and that
Speaker 3: he by battle with being. He's bipolar, right, so he
Speaker 3: had a lot.
Speaker 2: Of brand mars Marshall. He's not like full bipolar, but
Speaker 2: he has like a personality. He's got like a personality.
Speaker 1: He came out. He came out at one point.
Speaker 2: Some moods change a lot, and he's very open about it.
Speaker 2: Like therapy and like working on your mental.
Speaker 1: I can relate. Yeah, I go through these waves sometimes.
Speaker 1: And that's that's what drew me in. I saw one
Speaker 1: of the clips on Instagram and I'm like, Wow, this
Speaker 1: guy's really opening up and he's a he's a pretty
Speaker 1: strong voice. And then and then I and I also
Speaker 1: saw another one about the argument about the McDonald's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just can't agree with on that one.
Speaker 3: No, Like, I don't agree with him at all.
Speaker 1: He argues it so much, so I'm like, does he
Speaker 1: really think I think that's what the McDonald's got to
Speaker 1: be done. They've they've made him.
Speaker 2: He looks great though he does. He's such a specimen.
Speaker 4: That's what it's like. Know these guys like you know,
Speaker 4: eat McDonald's.
Speaker 2: But the the idea I go to is like, if
Speaker 2: you clone yourself, It's like Ocho. If you clone yourself
Speaker 2: and you're the Oho you are now and did all
Speaker 2: this stuff. But if this other one is clone of you,
Speaker 2: same thing and you fed him correctly, how much different
Speaker 2: would it be different? And you your career probably would
Speaker 2: have blasted longer. And I'm not saying I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that he had. It just felt because he ate McDonald's
Speaker 2: and stuff. But that's always the argument on I am
Speaker 2: on I am athlete, is you think your injuries are
Speaker 2: this because he's always like, you know I got because
Speaker 2: of stuff off the field, that's why he got out
Speaker 2: of the game, or it was something I know I
Speaker 2: watched it because Brandon Marshall eats healthy.
Speaker 1: It was the hard knocks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, marsh Marshall argues with him till he's bread in
Speaker 2: the face about it.
Speaker 3: Well, Brandon Marshall, from a frame standpoint, is way more
Speaker 3: built than Ocho.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, Ocho, like Brandon Marshall's like stacked. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: he and t O or someone. I followed him when
Speaker 1: he was playing with the Bearers, like I always I was.
Speaker 3: He was a real he was a really good big
Speaker 3: wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I liked.
Speaker 3: I liked the podcast because I just love the fact
Speaker 3: that athletes are starting to get get a voice, like
Speaker 3: started kind of with. I think like Lebron was really
Speaker 3: kind of putting that ship out there for real because
Speaker 3: they did the yeah, the uninterrupted but the whole person
Speaker 3: that said shut up and dribble and he took that
Speaker 3: and he's kind of run with it sense, And I
Speaker 3: think that ship's cool that those dudes.
Speaker 1: I think, I I almost I mean, I guess I'm
Speaker 1: on the right side of it. But I'm concerned for
Speaker 1: you know, mainstream media, where there's as time moves on,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be so many athletes that are coming out
Speaker 1: with their own stuff as like this, whereas not only
Speaker 1: do they have the the the expert opinion because they
Speaker 1: did it, but they also had the connections to get
Speaker 1: the other guys on where these other guys open up
Speaker 1: way more than they would with just some some guys.
Speaker 3: That's what we love too. We tell everybody on our
Speaker 3: podcast that hey, if there's something you don't like, we'll
Speaker 3: cut it out, So feel free to say whatever the
Speaker 3: fuck you want.
Speaker 1: We've yeah, we have to take up. We might have
Speaker 1: to take out.
Speaker 3: Oh hey yeah.
Speaker 1: Roman.
Speaker 3: We had a big for a while asking dudes about
Speaker 3: the first time they jerked off, what was like jerking off?
Speaker 4: And he ended up saying his story, but that's the
Speaker 4: words he was like, he called.
Speaker 1: He was like our GM like, first off, if all
Speaker 1: the people have a man crush on, that's probably mine.
Speaker 1: He's a man rock death.
Speaker 3: Love him to death.
Speaker 1: His wife equally is beautiful.
Speaker 3: They're great, they're a beautiful they just had a kid
Speaker 3: and Romans awesome dude.
Speaker 1: I love. He's a good dude.
Speaker 3: And he came on the bus out of like maybe
Speaker 3: a favor, and you could tell the whole time he
Speaker 3: was like, he didn't know if you really want to
Speaker 3: be there.
Speaker 1: You know he's with our podcast. I think he was
Speaker 1: just doing us a favor. He's such a nice, humble guy. Uh.
Speaker 1: We We've had a couple of interviews. We had Austin Matthews,
Speaker 1: who's a big name. I talked about him earlier and uh,
Speaker 1: there was an incident where we had we had to
Speaker 1: completely nix the interview. It was going to be such
Speaker 1: a big one to drop. It started the same one
Speaker 1: of those you know, mad traction, and it was like
Speaker 1: it was so good, but like you said, we're a
Speaker 1: player's podcast, so it's it's whatever they want off, it
Speaker 1: comes off. We we got to protect him, right.
Speaker 3: I mean you kind of said something about this, and
Speaker 3: I don't want to put you on the spot, but
Speaker 3: like with McAfee, McAfee when he first started doing podcasts
Speaker 3: and stuff, you know Pat, Yeah, Pat was like all
Speaker 3: for the players, all for that, and like progressively last
Speaker 3: couple of years, like he's gotten. The farther you get away,
Speaker 3: the harder it is to protect the dude. So you
Speaker 3: want the players.
Speaker 1: He wants to he's so big now he's but he
Speaker 1: does a great job. I think he doesn't keep up incredibility.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the tough balance is anytime we have
Speaker 1: to bring up a topic and you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you're you're like, you try not to speak too negatively
Speaker 1: because you don't want to hurt the guy's feelings either.
Speaker 3: And you know somebody, you know a guy who knows him.
Speaker 3: Everybody's one guy away from another guy around in the.
Speaker 2: Middle of the OTO single thing when I felt like
Speaker 2: I was catching myself, Like, you know, I'm not disrespecting his.
Speaker 3: Career any right, Yeah, yeah, you do that.
Speaker 4: I would have kept him in the league longer.
Speaker 1: But about all about the food there, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: you're like.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that his career would have lasted longer,
Speaker 2: but it probably would have.
Speaker 4: And there's a thing I mean, because you're just healthier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then all of a sudden he catches a
Speaker 1: clip of it and he's like, fuck, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: ship coming on your podcast.
Speaker 4: Hey, I love you, bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love a big fan.
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan as well.
Speaker 1: Will I grew up watching Yeah, I was watching sports
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah. No, he's I mean McAfee's kind of
Speaker 1: the he's set the precedents for I mean, he was
Speaker 1: with Barstool at one point, not really sure what happened,
Speaker 1: like we were. I was just kind of joining at
Speaker 1: the time. But it's yeah, it's he's got an insane
Speaker 1: motor on him for for how much.
Speaker 3: He just goes. He's just such a good job Daily Show.
Speaker 3: It's the time to do it too, Like if we
Speaker 3: both didn't play, we would probably go more of the
Speaker 3: route he is. There's so much money in that dude,
Speaker 3: like with the fan duel and doing the daily stuff
Speaker 3: and having his boys around two. I love that. Oh
Speaker 3: he's got boys from high school around.
Speaker 1: That's coolest shit to me. Speaking of motorai bro, it's
Speaker 1: daily Monday Friday speaking of motors, but we have I
Speaker 1: don't think we've talked about Barstool yet. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: guys are loving being associated. But Portnoy his motor insanity, dude,
Speaker 1: fucking nuts. He's a guy you washing.
Speaker 4: I don't get it.
Speaker 3: It's not millions and millions and millions of dollars, dude.
Speaker 3: And he just still does pizza reviews every day, still
Speaker 3: does stay.
Speaker 4: He's committed.
Speaker 3: And the best way to see like his motor was
Speaker 3: like during COVID, like he would be there cutting dudes
Speaker 3: out for not doing shit, like you're you just blown.
Speaker 1: So he went from uh uh, well, obviously he was
Speaker 1: still doing the pizza reviews. I believe he released High Noon,
Speaker 1: then he did the Unboxings Box, then he was doing
Speaker 1: Davy Day Trader.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the rail does run.
Speaker 1: He went on during COVID and then of course with
Speaker 1: the barstool Fund, and there might even be one more
Speaker 1: thing that I'm missing. It was like in a time
Speaker 1: where most people were like, oh no, like the world's ending,
Speaker 1: like what's happening to get just stacking brick, putting the
Speaker 1: team on his back.
Speaker 4: He really did.
Speaker 3: And the Davy day trader thing is genius too, because
Speaker 3: you can't give like, uh, you can't like help people
Speaker 3: with stocks whatever. There's like a rule against that one
Speaker 3: you're daytrad But if Dave three hours before or an
Speaker 3: hour before, puts fifty grand into a stock and goes
Speaker 3: I'm watching Apple today. Yeah, yeah, goes up to and
Speaker 3: it takes He's like I was like, now he's on
Speaker 3: all the networks talking.
Speaker 1: He's on Fox, he's on CNN, MSNB. Oh yeah. And
Speaker 1: then he interviewed uh and he interviewed Trump. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was one of the other things.
Speaker 3: I didn't watch the interview, but I saw it what
Speaker 3: the cat said about it, and Bake Cat was like
Speaker 3: he didn't even ask a hard question, but there was
Speaker 3: no like soft balls.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it was more of just like the
Speaker 1: fact that this guy who you know, created this blog.
Speaker 1: I think he was like living in his parents' basement
Speaker 1: at the beginning of all this to where it's got now,
Speaker 1: it's just it's.
Speaker 4: Putting newspapers and all the going around and put him in.
Speaker 3: Newstap Yeah, put fake ads in the newspapers and then
Speaker 3: he blah blah blah blah and then be like a
Speaker 3: strip club when that was real. But he put the
Speaker 3: fleming so people would think that he had more people.
Speaker 4: And then he called.
Speaker 3: He would write offter like three different aliases, also.
Speaker 1: Living away free advertising, to give away free advertisement to
Speaker 1: seem like he was bigger than.
Speaker 4: But then he called the competitor like he called like
Speaker 4: more than, say hey, their.
Speaker 3: Sponsor him to come up hustler straight.
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Speaker 1: So you're currently a free agent. Yeah, this phone's been
Speaker 1: blown up all day. Yeah, it's really yeah on.
Speaker 7: Twitter, I'll say this man, Like I I'll say this,
Speaker 7: I was paying a little bit of attention, Like I
Speaker 7: feel like you were getting making a bit more of
Speaker 7: an aim for yourself towards the end of the season
Speaker 7: where you were making these fucking huge plays and.
Speaker 4: You know I love that. No, No, I know, I know,
Speaker 4: I know you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know you said that before last year
Speaker 1: you were not even sure if you were going to
Speaker 1: get another opportunity to where you ended up spending majority
Speaker 1: of the season on the actual team and are and
Speaker 1: you think you're going to get another deal.
Speaker 4: I think there's I think I'll play another year for you.
Speaker 1: Man. Newsance love attraction and hoping to go back with
Speaker 1: the Titans.
Speaker 3: We'll see a nice he wants for the times, of.
Speaker 1: Course, and then you guys get to continued growing what
Speaker 1: you guys are growing.
Speaker 3: And the thing the funny thing about the Titans is
Speaker 3: like John Robinson, our GM came from the Patriots, and
Speaker 3: Patriot's like a no nonsense and then Rabel is under
Speaker 3: that umbrella of like the Patriots also, but they love
Speaker 3: our ship. Yeah, they really do like our ship. It's
Speaker 3: kind of funny.
Speaker 1: He seems like the biggest players coach ever. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I mean frable.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Ifraybel played fourteen years in the league, and
Speaker 3: you'll know that if you're meet him, because it'll be
Speaker 3: the second sentence he ever says. But also like he
Speaker 3: will like he'll love you up, but he will absolutely
Speaker 3: like them.
Speaker 2: He's the guy. He's like, he's like the he's like
Speaker 2: the dad. You just want to say, like, hey, I'm.
Speaker 1: Proudy yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just want that
Speaker 1: valid as of course. Yeah, my favorite coach, Mike Stuthers.
Speaker 1: I did an interview today where I talked about him,
Speaker 1: and he was my favorite coach. Is all all you
Speaker 1: were looking for him is to say fucking rights and
Speaker 1: I want to I want an HL championship with him,
Speaker 1: not a Stanley Cup. But but yeah, it's just you know,
Speaker 1: you respect those guys because they've also been there and
Speaker 1: they've done done it. How many? How many he's got
Speaker 1: two rings? Three?
Speaker 4: Three rings?
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you what can you say to
Speaker 1: the guy who's got three rings right and played fourteen years?
Speaker 4: You're like, okay, yeah, there's not a whole lot of
Speaker 4: ravest at all.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fun to trip him on this podcast because
Speaker 3: like you know, he listens like rabel Is. If we
Speaker 3: ever tweet something, he'll put us in a group at
Speaker 3: and start killing us.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, you know listen.
Speaker 3: So I always like low key on our podcast. Every
Speaker 3: time like Rapes comes up, I do try to throw
Speaker 3: a little shade out there and see if he ever
Speaker 3: comes fishing back.
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm fishing for Rapes to come. Called you in
Speaker 1: the office, And that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: Talked about the GM thing and it's not necessarily the office,
Speaker 2: but I've gotten the messages about like tweets, like you know, hey,
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 3: They handle the Titans handle stuff really well. They'll be like, hey,
Speaker 3: just don't do this you're right, and it's not like
Speaker 3: they don't make a practice squad now yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Tell you what, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: You definitely felt when when when I went down to
Speaker 2: the practic squad, I'm doing stuff. You're like, man, I
Speaker 2: wonder if I'll get chirped now since I'm on like
Speaker 2: you know, practical, because you don't want to be you
Speaker 2: don't want to be a distraction.
Speaker 4: So it's a party.
Speaker 2: Is like you know, you don't want to do as
Speaker 2: much as you had been doing because again, like you're
Speaker 2: for the boys. You want the boys to win. You
Speaker 2: don't want to be a distraction. You don't want to
Speaker 2: be brought up in software and team meetings. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: so like you battle, you battle stuff like that, like
Speaker 2: those voices in your head about it, but uh, you're
Speaker 2: just aware of it.
Speaker 1: So so like, who were the chances that you do
Speaker 1: end up back with the Titans there?
Speaker 4: I have no clue.
Speaker 1: I have no clue.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I think if I were to tell John
Speaker 3: I want him here. Probably John go away from it
Speaker 3: a little bit, like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if anything could probably make it worse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like everyone knows Me and Will are boys, and
Speaker 3: I would love to have him on the Titans. I
Speaker 3: would never say never now because last year during camp
Speaker 3: I was on the phone with Will, and Will's chilling
Speaker 3: wining for a call. You know, you had teams calling
Speaker 3: you Raiders a Raiders team and no that.
Speaker 2: Was and you're waiting for another team to come to Equations,
Speaker 2: so you could, you know.
Speaker 3: Kind of finagle a couple extra bucks. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know how sick it would be if you play
Speaker 3: at the Titans, Dude, how awesome We're like daydreaming right
Speaker 3: talking about I'd be so sick to be back in
Speaker 3: the locker room because our locker room with the Titans
Speaker 3: is like dudes have come from everywhere else and been
Speaker 3: like this is the place, this is where like culture.
Speaker 4: Dude, we have awesome The.
Speaker 1: Boys fucking care about the boys, Legit, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got selfish players, but like even the
Speaker 3: selfish players, you're like, there's still for the boys in
Speaker 3: the locker.
Speaker 1: There's two, there's there's it's like there's too many guys
Speaker 1: who are are pulling the roll up the same way.
Speaker 1: It's it's really hard for them to infiltrate the group.
Speaker 1: It's just like they can they can be their selfish
Speaker 1: solves and that's their personality. But it's it's not gonna
Speaker 1: it's not gonna poison the crow. They come around you.
Speaker 1: They come around a lot.
Speaker 3: And so when Will got the call, like when Will
Speaker 3: got a call from the Titans.
Speaker 4: Of Wheeler is a brave shot me?
Speaker 1: In text, it was like zero percent chance of him coming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can you go?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he go out or whatever, he goes you in shape?
Speaker 2: And then since another text or you've been eating too
Speaker 2: many ribbis because I would post on the weekends like
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, whiskey and ribbi. He's like and you know,
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm in shape and he's like football shape.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I mean I need a few days in paths,
Speaker 4: but I'll be ready to go.
Speaker 2: And then next thing I know, we got a call
Speaker 2: that they wanted to do a try out or work
Speaker 2: up in a couple of days.
Speaker 4: Well, we had to do COVID So you had to
Speaker 4: do the three days of COVID testing. And then did
Speaker 4: you did you think they're fucking with you?
Speaker 1: Because they moved your worker from like eight a PM
Speaker 1: to like five am.
Speaker 2: Right, they moved there like two hours earlier because of
Speaker 2: something that was happened. I didn't think they're messing with me,
Speaker 2: but I knew that because they had other free agency
Speaker 2: in like people that were already in from Cali that
Speaker 2: had to kind of quarantine for a few days.
Speaker 1: Uh. But when it.
Speaker 2: Happened, bro, I was so hype that I was gonna
Speaker 2: get to stay like in Nashville. Course, I love the Raiders.
Speaker 2: I was gonna pretty much. There was like maybe two
Speaker 2: weeks left the preseason, like ten days left. It was
Speaker 2: kind of like you're trying to finesse going to another
Speaker 2: training camp because you.
Speaker 3: Knew I was a training camps guddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew I was gonna be Uh. I had
Speaker 2: a minimum offer from the Raiders at the time. It's like,
Speaker 2: all right, if I can want to have a minimum offer,
Speaker 2: the hopefully with COVID going on, there will be some
Speaker 2: job where I can play on minimum and not have
Speaker 2: to go through a grueling training camp save your body
Speaker 2: of course, and toy.
Speaker 4: There's like two weeks lefter, ten days.
Speaker 2: Left when I signed with the Titans again, and I
Speaker 2: was stoked that I was going to get to stay
Speaker 2: in Nashville. I never thought that I would get to
Speaker 2: play for the Titans again. So that was pretty sick.
Speaker 2: That was pretty sick because not I was gonna be
Speaker 2: in I was gonna be in Vegas. Like I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, we're near in the end, I'm gonna have to,
Speaker 2: you know, sign this deal and go out to go
Speaker 2: out to the boys in Vegas.
Speaker 3: The Vegas would be a rad place though. But like, dude,
Speaker 3: when he signed, it was like you would have thought
Speaker 3: we got some dude for a one hundred and forty
Speaker 3: million dollar.
Speaker 1: Contract, some like fat tad out there like.
Speaker 4: Or dude, like, what did I tweet?
Speaker 2: Like you tweeted greatest third greatest third string special teams
Speaker 2: players signing.
Speaker 1: Of all time, all time. Dude. People went nuts. It
Speaker 1: was the best and Rape text me.
Speaker 2: He's like, hey, get out of your system now because
Speaker 2: talking about self suck. Like and then look at me,
Speaker 2: look at me. I was like, yeah, I'm kind of
Speaker 2: chirping myself too.
Speaker 1: It's not like, yeah, apricated, That's how I was.
Speaker 3: So the first meeting or whatever, Rabel's like Hammer and
Speaker 3: Will with questions because the Rabel like the three of
Speaker 3: us are kind of boys. It kind of like loves Will,
Speaker 3: but he's going to ham on Will in the middle
Speaker 3: of the team meeting all the dudes in the room,
Speaker 3: and that's how he operates. Dude, he beats you down.
Speaker 3: He's got to be the alpha in the room for sure.
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Speaker 5: In?
Speaker 3: As many as I can? Oh my deal, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: got three years, I got this one and two more
Speaker 3: and I think, I mean, I definitely want to do
Speaker 3: another one.
Speaker 1: So so when something like that happens, Like, are you
Speaker 1: are you scared with seeing.
Speaker 4: Spin Chickless podcast? What's that spin Chickless?
Speaker 1: No, I'm just I'm sure your fans care too, Like
Speaker 1: what are your emotions like where you're you're seeing guys
Speaker 1: in the NFL and how cut throat it is where
Speaker 1: you have a significant injury and you got three years
Speaker 1: left and you have fans like, oh, I'll take a
Speaker 1: deal to help out with the team cap if you did.
Speaker 1: Like my agent called me because I talked to him
Speaker 1: because this ship was going a crazy couple like a
Speaker 1: last week, a bunch of cuts and stuff, and I
Speaker 1: called him. I was like, hey, I know I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna get cut, Like what if I get cut? He goes,
Speaker 1: if you get cut.
Speaker 3: Be Stokes because you'll have a better concrect maybe have
Speaker 3: a better contract, cause I have great agents, CAAs my agency,
Speaker 3: and they they did have had a frontloaded contract for me,
Speaker 3: and these last three years are like kind of half
Speaker 3: as much those last three years. So really I'm helping
Speaker 3: out the cap without even doing anything compared to my
Speaker 3: money last year. But like the emotions with this thing,
Speaker 3: like when it first happened, it was kind of like
Speaker 3: a calming thing almost, because I've always been so worried
Speaker 3: about a kne injury. What if I get a kne
Speaker 3: injury because like I've always been like an athletic guy,
Speaker 3: I always have to run and bend and I can
Speaker 3: do all these things, and I was always like, fuck,
Speaker 3: do you I just don't want to get a knee
Speaker 3: and only at this and the minute it happened, it
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, this is the worst case scenario you've
Speaker 3: ever thought of, Like what now? And up until super recently,
Speaker 3: I've been like really positive about it. And then the
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks like two three, really since like
Speaker 3: mid February, I've been like real down. I think when
Speaker 3: the full season ended for everybody, everything kind of goes quiet.
Speaker 1: For a little bit. There's no football to watch, No
Speaker 1: everyone's back in the gym and getting.
Speaker 3: Back in the gym and after it and you're seeing it.
Speaker 3: And I've had some things go up and down with it,
Speaker 3: like I'll be fine for Augus. But there's things that
Speaker 3: go great, and then there's hyper extend my knee or
Speaker 3: I slip, swelling goes back up, I can't work my
Speaker 3: quad out. Like things happen, and it's like you go
Speaker 3: from feeling like invincible when I was twenty I'm twenty
Speaker 3: nine years old, never had injury, never had surgery, Like
Speaker 3: I had my tonsils out when I was twenty two,
Speaker 3: and that was horrendous, Like but other than that, this
Speaker 3: is the only thing.
Speaker 4: It's good for you.
Speaker 1: I'm always saying that because we're still injured.
Speaker 3: Dude, Yeah, it was you definitely get out run me
Speaker 3: right now. I just it's it's super humbling to be
Speaker 3: put in this position. And I think it's such a crossroads.
Speaker 3: Like you hear the cliche YouTube videos all the time,
Speaker 3: like who are you with adversity strikes Like I'm finding
Speaker 3: out I'm pretty fucking awesome. Like I'm finding out shit's
Speaker 3: kind of going down and I'm handling it. Like I
Speaker 3: was telling him the other day, like I've been low
Speaker 3: key depressed for you know, four or five weeks, not consistent,
Speaker 3: can get out of bed type stuff. But like a
Speaker 3: couple of days ago by, I'll be in a great mood.
Speaker 3: Then one day I'll beously be like, fuck is this
Speaker 3: Am I gonna be healthier again? Am I gonna be
Speaker 3: able to do this again? And you're like, you know,
Speaker 3: then you have a pity party for a little bit
Speaker 3: and you go in the next day and next to
Speaker 3: you're fine.
Speaker 1: But it's like it's tough, dude. And I remember watching
Speaker 1: dudes get hurt like in college, and then the end
Speaker 1: of all imagine getting imagine getting that before you sign
Speaker 1: a ticket or something. Yeah, oh dude, that was.
Speaker 3: I almost pulled that insurance the year before. I almost
Speaker 3: pulled that insurance for it, because like, if you get
Speaker 3: hurt and loss of value, like you go for making
Speaker 3: this much, then you make this much, Like you'll never
Speaker 3: see that.
Speaker 1: You've probably seen every situation inside that locker room too.
Speaker 3: That's the thing that's wild is like you see dudes
Speaker 3: go down, dudes get hurt, and it's like, man, that
Speaker 3: fucking sucks. Well the next day or back to work,
Speaker 3: I'm not thinking about buddy anymore, just tour whatever broke this,
Speaker 3: and you see her once in a while on the
Speaker 3: training table getting some work done. But other than that,
Speaker 3: like you're in your zone and so like I get
Speaker 3: hurt and then you kind of think for a little bit,
Speaker 3: You're like nobody's really thought about me in a while.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 3: Everyone's kind of like doing their own ship, and you
Speaker 3: kind of realize, like you're more alone than you think.
Speaker 3: Piece of meat, Yeah, just a piece of meat, dude,
Speaker 3: And it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's it's.
Speaker 4: An we're a commodity question.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got your buddies and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: but like you don't see the boys every day, and
Speaker 3: the boys are working towards going to the playoffs, getting
Speaker 3: the championship, and you're like, once you're out of commission,
Speaker 3: like you're not helping when especially.
Speaker 1: When they're on the road, that's when it's the worst.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well Derek, Derek went for two thousand this year
Speaker 3: or running back, and it's like that's a huge thing.
Speaker 1: You guys. He was a beast.
Speaker 3: He is a month.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a Packers fan and I was happy for
Speaker 1: Rogers winning the m v P, which I probably thought
Speaker 1: he should have won.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, Well we.
Speaker 3: Actually had this conversation.
Speaker 4: On the oh, Derek.
Speaker 3: So Derek was getting all the boys chained with like
Speaker 3: two thousand something yards whatever he got, and he's like,
Speaker 3: do you want to change? I was like, He's like,
Speaker 3: you're getting a chain, and I'm like, man, I played
Speaker 3: five games. I didn't feel like I like I deserved it,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But Derek's a really good
Speaker 3: friend of mine. Other teams that you're getting it. He's
Speaker 3: the guy that checked on me all the time, and
Speaker 3: you just kind of feel weird, right, you get after
Speaker 3: all the boys grinding it out for sixteen games and getting.
Speaker 1: A Stanley Cup, bring you played one game in playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, when we facetimed after the
Speaker 2: Houston game where you stoked.
Speaker 1: I was extremely Yes, well, so the Houston game we won.
Speaker 3: The AFC South, the last game, it was the last
Speaker 3: game of the year, game of the year. Want to
Speaker 3: clin was so sick.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was so happy for the locker room guy.
Speaker 2: So we had this, uh we called it up right,
Speaker 2: and so I FaceTime tailor like when we're all celebrated,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm trying to get the boy in.
Speaker 4: I was kind of.
Speaker 2: Thinking in my head like that, I don't know if
Speaker 2: he's you know, I'm sitting there and I'm like, we won.
Speaker 2: I want to call the boy, but I don't want
Speaker 2: him to be sad because I know it like also sucks.
Speaker 2: But I just need to call a boy because he's
Speaker 2: part of it, no matter what, like whatever happens or
Speaker 2: whatever happens when he hangs.
Speaker 4: Up, like, he's a part of this. So I call
Speaker 4: and we do the whole team meeting and stuff. And
Speaker 4: I just never really knew, like.
Speaker 1: You kind to hear people off. The boy Yeah was
Speaker 1: showing me and I'm smiling through it, dude, But in
Speaker 1: the back of my head, Like I was happy for
Speaker 1: the boys, but it just sucked on being a part
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 3: It was a fucking bumber, especially when I got to
Speaker 3: the Times in twenty fourteen. We sucked. We were two
Speaker 3: and fourteen. We were trash. Like no, like, there are
Speaker 3: good dudes in the team, but there's zero chemistry, zero camaraderie.
Speaker 3: And like, I've been on that team longer than anybody
Speaker 3: except for a punter, and so like you kind of
Speaker 3: work through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see all these different people different come through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you're like steady holding and you're just
Speaker 3: help the boys get to a point and then you
Speaker 3: get hurt and you see them go the farthest they
Speaker 3: did in a regular season and it fucking hurt.
Speaker 1: Dude. That was a very emotional moment for me after
Speaker 1: after you call, so, so, did you get your chain yet?
Speaker 3: I haven't got it yet.
Speaker 1: Now I don't even know. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: can wear it. I kind of feel batter No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's like I don't know what. He didn't send it
Speaker 1: to the boys yet, he said, like twenty sixteen or
Speaker 1: seventeen seventeen, he said, A franchise record for like two
Speaker 1: hundred and forty six yards rushing against Jacksonville and he
Speaker 1: got us all chains and it was like a fat
Speaker 1: little medallion thing on there with like two forty eight.
Speaker 3: He makes like a forteen this year.
Speaker 1: Some of these guys spend it. Yes, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: Some dudes get the funk out. Eric makes so much
Speaker 3: money off the field though. I like if I said
Speaker 3: Derek makes twelve a year or fourteen year? What was
Speaker 3: his number? He makes me for whatever contract he makes fourteen,
Speaker 3: he's got to make five to ten off the run.
Speaker 1: Actually he's probably getting like Nike your Adidas money.
Speaker 3: He got a fat he got a fat old.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was, but I just know
Speaker 4: it's fat. But he had this sweet commercial and Derek's
Speaker 4: he gives all the boys, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: the Odor and b.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he uh like everything he gets like a look.
Speaker 3: He seems like it's free. Like Derek has nice stuff.
Speaker 3: But he he's not one of those dudes. I mean,
Speaker 3: thirtier cat on a rookie deal with the rules, Royce
Speaker 3: unlike you guys.
Speaker 1: Oh that's one thing you don't see much in hockey.
Speaker 1: His guys spending it crazy. But you yeah, you I mean,
Speaker 1: I've everyone seen the ESPN broke or whatever.
Speaker 3: You're terrified of that. I don't want to be that.
Speaker 1: Some of these yeah strolling up in lambos and it's
Speaker 1: just like this guy's on the practice squot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, Hey, we had a guy like that. We
Speaker 3: had a guy like that who spent all his money.
Speaker 3: And I'm not going to say his name.
Speaker 1: So I think it was is Jared Allen, the one
Speaker 1: who played for the Minnesota Vikings. Yestoo is supposed to
Speaker 1: be coming on the pod. Oh so, I imagine this
Speaker 1: guy's got a lot and ask him about this one,
Speaker 1: because I want to say. He opened up a restaurant
Speaker 1: in Scott's though when I was playing, it was a lodge.
Speaker 1: Oh so, he used to own the lodge, and then
Speaker 1: he opened up another one. I think it was called
Speaker 1: the It's something the Elephant. But he was saying during
Speaker 1: the lockout one year that I think he had like
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen guys on the team who had taken
Speaker 1: out hard money loans with him. Oh no, that's and
Speaker 1: I remember remember when there was a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: when when they were I think that the players had
Speaker 1: to stand united to go against the owner regarding something.
Speaker 1: I think they were trying to get guaranteed contracts, but
Speaker 1: that's never happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess quarterbacks first.
Speaker 1: He said, he said, most of these guys are living
Speaker 1: paycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 4: Guy's got a kind of lock out, like yell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just spending it. And he he I think he
Speaker 1: had about ten to fifteen hard money loans taken out
Speaker 1: for guys from guys on his own team. No, ask
Speaker 1: him about it, Ask him about it.
Speaker 4: That's we got to get.
Speaker 1: Hey, there's a reason I wear this hat. Man, maybe
Speaker 1: I'm full of ship. Listen, if I'm lying and he
Speaker 1: wasn't doing that, I'll burn this hat to me. I
Speaker 1: like that hat.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna neat that, you know, that would be that
Speaker 2: would be Uh, that's wild.
Speaker 4: I haven't heard of nothing like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, he might not be too thrilled I set
Speaker 1: this on here, but.
Speaker 3: Too well, if it's not if it's not, if it's
Speaker 3: not true, then who cares?
Speaker 4: Then who cares?
Speaker 1: That's why you just say whatever you want, because that's
Speaker 1: why that's why I got such a big nose all
Speaker 1: the lies. No man asked him about the hard money
Speaker 1: loans he was giving up. But that's uh yeah, guys
Speaker 1: are living living like crazy. They're bawling out.
Speaker 2: Before we go talk about Pink Whitney. Oh yeah, how
Speaker 2: did that ship happen?
Speaker 4: Number one?
Speaker 2: I've heard the story, like obviously with he likes pink
Speaker 2: lemonade with vodka. Yeah, but talk about some of the
Speaker 2: details that went into getting some deal with New Amsterdam Vaki, Like,
Speaker 2: who'd you guys go through?
Speaker 1: So our podcast started popping off in New Amsterdam and
Speaker 1: signed a deal with the NHL. So they said, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't we try something you know, new and maybe
Speaker 1: ourselves to this up and coming podcast because you could
Speaker 1: tell like a lot of the younger crowd was gravitating
Speaker 1: towards it. And on the first podcast he said, tell
Speaker 1: them what you mix with your vodka, which said, I
Speaker 1: mixed pink lemonade and vodka on the golf course. And
Speaker 1: you know, more and more people started sending it to
Speaker 1: us after he said that, and they were hashtagging pink Whitney.
Speaker 1: My business partner was like, hey, like, this is happening.
Speaker 1: A lot a lot of people noticed it, including Erica
Speaker 1: and Gallo. We got together made it. Do we ever
Speaker 1: think it would take on the mind of its own.
Speaker 1: That it did. It's more people than just the hockey
Speaker 1: community drinking it. We've sold fifteen million bottles of this
Speaker 1: stuff in just over a year. And it's just like
Speaker 1: college kids love it. It's like girls are getting white
Speaker 1: gonna wasted off of it. And yeah, and obviously the
Speaker 1: hockey community has taken a liking to it. And it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's just pink lemonade vodka. You might want
Speaker 1: to chill. It's it's better chilled, but it's a shot
Speaker 1: and h and I'm very intrigued. Bits out of my face.
Speaker 1: He's like, this is disgusting.
Speaker 4: I've seen it.
Speaker 1: I love it. I drink and I mix it with
Speaker 1: with heart selster sometimes and we're we're very grateful. And
Speaker 1: you know, it's take as I said, it's taking on
Speaker 1: a mind of its own. And check it out. Pink
Speaker 1: Whitney vodka. And you guys maybe start your own whiskey
Speaker 1: at some point.
Speaker 3: Well, it was always I think or something. I'm a
Speaker 3: big tequila guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's tequila.
Speaker 1: So here's the problem with tequila is everybody who started
Speaker 1: their own tequila.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, yeah, rock, there's at whiskey.
Speaker 1: Who's the other one, well, Costamigos. Of course they kind
Speaker 1: of started the trend. Yeah, I think Lebron James has
Speaker 1: just started at tequila.
Speaker 3: There's a there's a country band named Midland. They started
Speaker 3: in Tolitos. They started It's a good tequila, but they
Speaker 3: started that.
Speaker 1: Everyone's doing that a whiskey. George Strait started that Code
Speaker 1: of Goal, which is a really good George straight. I
Speaker 1: would that's probably a bucket list guy for the pod. Dude.
Speaker 3: Really, he's unbelievable. He is I think a stadiums doing whatever.
Speaker 3: He just stands there and shows the guitar and sings
Speaker 3: as hard.
Speaker 4: I think a whiskey would be sick.
Speaker 1: I know you all about that.
Speaker 4: I know, I know you hear me talk about all
Speaker 4: the time. We'll start both tequila and whiskey.
Speaker 1: I really think we can do whatever we wanted. We
Speaker 1: don't have a big following, but we got some loyal
Speaker 1: ask We got some loyal ones for sure. Hey, keep
Speaker 1: crushing it. And I appreciate you guys having me on
Speaker 1: and uh and listen as a fourth liner and uh,
Speaker 1: and I kind of a guy who's on the outside
Speaker 1: looking in most of the time. I hope you get
Speaker 1: your contract headed knockles the boy. How did that start?
Speaker 1: By you the boy? Are they both the boys? I
Speaker 1: guess we're both the boys.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: It's a call recall thing, like.
Speaker 2: Here's what happened, all right, And I feel like I
Speaker 2: can I can recall this. So I feel like sometimes
Speaker 2: you go a little you'll get a little blank. So, Taylor,
Speaker 2: when I was when I came to Tennessee the first year,
Speaker 2: we just obviously became boys right away. Yeah, like right away,
Speaker 2: bonded over podcast ship whatever, koun of bill buddies where
Speaker 2: we do recovery stuff together, work out together.
Speaker 4: In the summer, all that kind of yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And as matter of fact, that's when my name and
Speaker 2: stuff was swowing up and my guy was there for me,
Speaker 2: and everything would be like, you know, the boys, like
Speaker 2: we'd have this little thing where we go work out
Speaker 2: and we go to Whole Foods and eat he beg
Speaker 2: all the boys get a little gym stuff, gym session,
Speaker 2: the wolfed in. The boys will go get burgers afterwards
Speaker 2: and Whole Foods, have a nice little day, a little
Speaker 2: boy's day. And then like he'd go to the house
Speaker 2: and when I go over to his house because I
Speaker 2: was just staying in like Candlewood Sweets, this little ass
Speaker 2: hotel which is all red lighted. But when I go
Speaker 2: to his house, right when I walk in, he'd be
Speaker 2: like the boy, Like it would always be all the
Speaker 2: boys are here, the boys. Like he would just always
Speaker 2: say the boys, and you would, and so you know,
Speaker 2: I'm catching on them all about like I knew the
Speaker 2: four of the boys stuff.
Speaker 4: That was going on with like barstool and like to
Speaker 4: hold the boys like.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm bought in the having the boys day,
Speaker 2: all that type of shit.
Speaker 4: So we just started saying it. Once we got in
Speaker 4: the training camp.
Speaker 2: We go in the cold tub before or hot tub
Speaker 2: before practice, cold tub after, and once you enter in
Speaker 2: entered in any room and you saw the boy, like
Speaker 2: the boy, and then other teammates started to say the boy,
Speaker 2: Like if.
Speaker 4: Terry be standing there, he'd beg the boy. Then jay
Speaker 4: Im would be next to beg the boy. Then you
Speaker 4: just yelled.
Speaker 1: The boys just.
Speaker 5: Scattered like turkeys, fucking yelling of the kind of just
Speaker 5: bonded over like in training camp together and so it
Speaker 5: just kind of became like the boys, like are you
Speaker 5: for the Boys or not, and we kind of just
Speaker 5: did this whole stick on being for the Boys for.
Speaker 1: Me and then it, like the vodka took on a
Speaker 1: mind of its own. Yeah, you're busting with the boy.
Speaker 4: And we went we started off. We started off that
Speaker 4: year show. I mean, we end up we didn't make the.
Speaker 2: Playoffs that year, but we were just always like the
Speaker 2: boys and the media would try and press us when
Speaker 2: he hit we'd had bad games, like oh somebody had
Speaker 2: left the team, as like, oh, is he like Sean Matthews. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it kind of just took its own little identity of
Speaker 2: being for the boys. I want to say, Barstool tried
Speaker 2: making a shirt talking about for the Boys, and we
Speaker 2: were trying to make our own shirt and stuff, and
Speaker 2: we're kind of at the time pissed that Barcela made
Speaker 2: this Titans for the Boys shirt.
Speaker 3: Yeah. When we try to figure stuff out, like uh
Speaker 3: PMT like did said something they had a conversation with
Speaker 3: Rabel or they started talking about a podcast Rabel did
Speaker 3: and they wouldn't mention us. So I started going hand
Speaker 3: with them on a podcast because we.
Speaker 4: Had ours at time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, started just started ours and then bag Cat's like
Speaker 3: all right, hey, listen Bust with the Boys podcast. We
Speaker 3: get it, Taylor, all right, whatever, And in my head,
Speaker 3: I'm like, if I could just keep pressing these dudes
Speaker 3: every time they talk about us, we're gonna get more
Speaker 3: followers right up here.
Speaker 1: Three yeah exactly, that's what we're saying.
Speaker 3: So we start spouting off on them, and then like
Speaker 3: not even fifteen pods, twenty pods came in and they
Speaker 3: started calling.
Speaker 2: Us right right, right right right. That's when that's when
Speaker 2: all the conversations started to happen. Because Ray talked about
Speaker 2: cutting his dick off for a Super Bowl, and that's
Speaker 2: when PMT was talking about they went on his Offensive
Speaker 2: Tackles podcast.
Speaker 4: They didn't refer to me.
Speaker 1: Guys podcast. Yeah, and I was.
Speaker 2: Literally a linebacker for Verbell. They're like, why would he
Speaker 2: go on his defensive Guys podcast? Like, but anyways, talking
Speaker 2: about cutting his dick off. Oh football guy moved this
Speaker 2: and that. That's when Taylor started reaching out like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, mention us this and that, and yeah. That's
Speaker 2: how stuff started to kind of start to spin upwards.
Speaker 1: For now here we are here, we are boys. We
Speaker 1: did it.
Speaker 4: We fucking made it in Scottsdale Arizona.
Speaker 1: Well, boys, thanks for having me on. You know, I
Speaker 1: hope to one day get to Tennessee to watch a
Speaker 1: game with you guys. Hey, hey, hey, you play.
Speaker 4: When we get on Spinning Chicklets.
Speaker 3: Oh, we want to talk about We.
Speaker 1: Should for sure do a collaboration. You know what we
Speaker 1: should do? You golf?
Speaker 3: That's what I was wanting, But I always heard the podcast.
Speaker 3: We start the podcast with me saying I like golf.
Speaker 3: What did we start the podcast with missing?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you.
Speaker 3: Like, go out there and I'll swing a club, no problem.
Speaker 1: Well with your handicap seventy six. Okay, I'm not very
Speaker 1: good either. Yeah, maybe we'll play. We'll play ahead listeners
Speaker 1: up and down the whole. We definitely have to split
Speaker 1: because we're not like I've only played enjoying a stogy
Speaker 1: some music and people who don't take golf here. Maybe
Speaker 1: we can, Maybe we could think of another game. We'll
Speaker 1: meet you guys in the middle. We'll play, we'll play
Speaker 1: for something else, and then we'll get together. We'll sit
Speaker 1: down and we'll do something like this with win when
Speaker 1: we live. So. I don't know how much I mentioned
Speaker 1: Ra and Grenelle, but those are the two other guys
Speaker 1: who have obviously been huge are so ra Yeah. Grnell
Speaker 1: is a guy behind the scenes producing, running all the
Speaker 1: social ra Ara is a hardcore hockey fan who he's
Speaker 1: to me, he's like the Forrest Gump. He's found his
Speaker 1: way into all these amazing events, including a lot of Stanley.
Speaker 4: Cup kind of like Robbie with the USC Like like Robbie.
Speaker 1: But more so like he would be celebrating in the
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup locker room and it would just be like
Speaker 1: Ora getting a picture with like Chris Chellios with the
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup and being like, who the fuck? So yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's just this weird, weird mix of amazing personalities
Speaker 1: and other than me, of course, but it's been great.
Speaker 1: It's been cool. So let's say, yeah, we gotta all
Speaker 1: we gotta all link up and have some fun for sure.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you. This is a lot of one.
Speaker 4: Big shout out to you guys.
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Speaker 2: We are forever grateful for you. The biggest of hugs
Speaker 2: and tiniest of kisses for the boys, always and forever