Speaker 1: Today's episode contains no spoilers, but news from the latest
Speaker 1: Nintendo Direct event. Oh name is Jason Concepcion and I'm
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's bring in Aboo. Carmen and Aaron are super
Speaker 1: producers to talk Nintendo Direct a boo, I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: it over to you for our tex specs and our
Speaker 1: launch date.
Speaker 3: So let's start with a launch date June fifth. That's
Speaker 3: like two months a week from when this gut announced. Wow,
Speaker 3: way sooner than I expected. I texted the producers yesterday
Speaker 3: and said, my money was on November no, June fifth,
Speaker 3: mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a holiday. I thought it was
Speaker 2: going to be a holiday released too.
Speaker 4: It's switched to summer. No more browns, Yes, switch to summer.
Speaker 5: Okay, how much is it going to cost?
Speaker 2: The boo, because it's kind of expensive.
Speaker 3: It is expensive. It's not going to be a cheap console.
Speaker 3: The console, the base console is going to cost four
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars. There's also going to be a
Speaker 3: five hundred dollars bundle that comes with Mario cart World,
Speaker 3: which also got announced. That's that's pre teriff price, right
Speaker 3: or we taken the terriff in.
Speaker 2: I think this is pre tariffs. So this could all
Speaker 2: change after this afternoon of Liberation Day. It is being cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we call it switch to launch day.
Speaker 3: And for what it's worth, this is Nintendo's most expensive
Speaker 3: launch price for a console for a new console. For context,
Speaker 3: like the original Switch launched in twenty seventeen at three
Speaker 3: hundred dollars, and the other popular handheld console at the moment,
Speaker 3: the Steam Deck. You can get a two hundred fifty
Speaker 3: six model gigabyte model for four hundred dollars, so this
Speaker 3: tops both of those.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what do we get for the four hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars? What are the specs? What are they
Speaker 2: promising us?
Speaker 3: Let's run through the specs real quick. Here's what gets
Speaker 3: bumped up from your base Nintendo Switch one console. The
Speaker 3: Switch to has a larger green seven point nine inches.
Speaker 5: For same thickness though yeah, same thingness.
Speaker 3: Larger screen. The screen is LCD, it has HDR support,
Speaker 3: and it can do ten eighty p up to one
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty frames per second, which I was oppressed
Speaker 3: to see. Yeah, there's also a new dock that comes
Speaker 3: with a switch To. This dock has a built in
Speaker 3: fan to help with cooling.
Speaker 5: Looks much sturdier if you think of like the original
Speaker 5: Nintendo Switch doc it is thin, it's like a paper wing.
Speaker 5: And this one, Yeah, this one will have some heft
Speaker 5: to it.
Speaker 3: It will probably because of the fan. Yeah, and when
Speaker 3: this switch to is docked, it will actually be able
Speaker 3: to output up to four k sixty frames per second.
Speaker 4: Oh amazing, happy to hear that.
Speaker 5: Do we believe that? Do we do?
Speaker 3: We believe? I don't believe that at all.
Speaker 2: No, present was so laggy.
Speaker 3: I trust that.
Speaker 2: No, But you know what, I would love to see it.
Speaker 3: I heavy emphasis on up to up to sixty. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The switch to also comes with two hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: six gigabits of internal storage. That's a pretty big bump
Speaker 3: up from the Switch one. It can also be expanded
Speaker 3: with a micro st Express card, which is not the
Speaker 3: same micro ESTI card that currently works in your Switch one,
Speaker 3: so you have to get a new card. That's annoying,
Speaker 3: which is kind of annoying.
Speaker 5: All right, For the next part, I want to ask
Speaker 5: everyone how you typically play switch Are you typically playing
Speaker 5: it docked? Are you playing it handheld? Or are you
Speaker 5: playing it on the table propped up on its own
Speaker 5: with the joy cons or a pro controller while you're
Speaker 5: playing I play it handheld.
Speaker 2: I play it handheld or attached to the TV, depending
Speaker 2: on what game. Like if I'm playing Zelda, I play
Speaker 2: it on the TV. If I'm playing like Good pizza,
Speaker 2: great pizza.
Speaker 4: I play it handheld.
Speaker 1: Yeah, certain games I might play on the TV, but listen,
Speaker 1: you don't. Nobody engages with Nintendo because of the grass quality,
Speaker 1: and putting it on my TV only underlines the gap
Speaker 1: between Nintendo and other systems. I prefer to play handheld.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Same.
Speaker 5: So the reason I ask is this one has two
Speaker 5: USB seaports, one on top and one on bottom. One
Speaker 5: of the complaints with the original switch, the USB sport
Speaker 5: is only on the bottom, which means if you have
Speaker 5: it sitting on the table, it can't be charging. The
Speaker 5: nice thing now is there's a port on top and bottom,
Speaker 5: so even if you are like no one in this
Speaker 5: group chat and you decide you want to prop the
Speaker 5: switch up on the table, you can still be charging
Speaker 5: it from the top.
Speaker 4: That is play.
Speaker 2: I do sometimes play that way if i'm playing, if
Speaker 2: I like, take it with me somewhere, like I'm in
Speaker 2: the advert for the original switch one which we all
Speaker 2: ragged on, but it actually was exactly how I sometimes
Speaker 2: play it. I will take it out like that and
Speaker 2: play it like play Mario Call if I take it
Speaker 2: with me somewhere. So yeah, I think that's a good
Speaker 2: I think It's a good thing to happen.
Speaker 3: Even if you're handheld though, Like having a cable like
Speaker 3: on the bottom is like clunky and weird, even if
Speaker 3: you're like holding it hitd Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hate the way it has to go and it's chunky too,
Speaker 2: So yes, I like this.
Speaker 5: Obviously, it does need at least one port on the
Speaker 5: bottom because that's how it connects to the dock, so
Speaker 5: that will never go away as long as we have
Speaker 5: this basic iteration of what the switch looks like or
Speaker 5: the switch to. But I love that there's a top
Speaker 5: USB port now. Next up, the switch too has a
Speaker 5: built in microphone, which we saw used in a number
Speaker 5: of things when they presented game chat, which we will
Speaker 5: get to in a little bit. There will also be
Speaker 5: a new pro controller with back buttons. I think they
Speaker 5: called it. How much this one?
Speaker 3: Ye eighty hole dollars eight dollars.
Speaker 2: They really want us to be pro gaming on this thing,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, guys, you can't eve a Twitch stream
Speaker 2: easily from the switch. Let's chill out on this now.
Speaker 5: Speaking of price a boot, let's talk about the games
Speaker 5: for switch to and what their price is looking like.
Speaker 3: It looking like, Yeah, not confirmed yet, but rumor has
Speaker 3: it that switch to games are going to be in
Speaker 3: the ballpark of eighty dollars, which is ten whole dollars
Speaker 3: than the current baseline for most modern consoles at seventy
Speaker 3: If you look at the official Nintendo website. Insider Gaming
Speaker 3: reported that, for example, there are some games listed at eighty,
Speaker 3: but also other games listed at seventy. So this seems
Speaker 3: to be something they're kind of testing the market out with,
Speaker 3: probably gauging listener response. Here's a listener response for me.
Speaker 3: I'm the listener. I'm not fucking buying games at eighty dollars.
Speaker 2: Correct, it will still happen for me. I'm a cheap person,
Speaker 2: you know. I hope that they have a hope that
Speaker 2: they keep the digital coupon that they have now where
Speaker 2: you can buy like pay one hundred bucks and you
Speaker 2: can buy two things for fifty dollars digitally, because also
Speaker 2: as well, you want me to play by a digital
Speaker 2: game at eighty dollars?
Speaker 4: Are you?
Speaker 3: I can't let Aaron borrow it or something?
Speaker 2: What are you ony, Aaron, by the way, getting.
Speaker 3: To borrow it? He's like, fuck you, you.
Speaker 4: Can Aaron as your family on the switch on the line,
Speaker 4: but it has to be family.
Speaker 2: I do like it because I do have a Switch
Speaker 2: family account that a lot of my friends are on. Also,
Speaker 2: the thing about this that's so funny is like the
Speaker 2: way I buy most of my games is I just
Speaker 2: go on the Switch sale on the Digital Store, and
Speaker 2: I find so many great games that way. That's how
Speaker 2: I got really into Dragon Ball Fighters with a Z
Speaker 2: Yeah and discovered that that was like the ultimate good
Speaker 2: Buttom bashing game. It's so easy if you're a Buttom basher.
Speaker 2: And that was like, I got it for like five
Speaker 2: bucks when the package I originally got was like ninety
Speaker 2: dollars because it was the bundle with everything included. I'll
Speaker 2: be waiting for the sales.
Speaker 5: Okay, but here this is the first of multiple times
Speaker 5: when a boom and I will disagree. A boom my
Speaker 5: reaction to you saying you're not going to spend seventy
Speaker 5: or eighty dollars on a game? Okay? Sure, Like, what
Speaker 5: are you gonna do play a new Zelda game. You're
Speaker 5: gonna wait six months? Nintendo Games famous, do not go
Speaker 5: on huge discount. You're gonna wait. The problem that here's.
Speaker 1: The thing that's seventy eighty dollars. It doesn't bother me
Speaker 1: that much. Here's how Nintendo really gets you. It's when
Speaker 1: you buy non Nintendo games that you have on other
Speaker 1: systems because you want the You want to have them
Speaker 1: on the switch for the convenience and the travel effect
Speaker 1: like this. You don't buy the switch to play name
Speaker 1: your other game and name your non stitch. You buy
Speaker 1: it because you want Mario Car, because you want Mario World,
Speaker 1: because you want all of those titles. You want to
Speaker 1: you want to sell the games.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: It's when you start going, you know what, I'm about
Speaker 1: to get on a plane.
Speaker 5: I would really like to let's play again.
Speaker 3: I would really like to.
Speaker 1: Have Skyrim for the seventh time. That's when you really
Speaker 1: start getting to me. It's like eighty dollars for the
Speaker 1: first run Nintendo titles. It sucks, but.
Speaker 5: Fine, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the fact that I am starting Valley on
Speaker 1: it along with you know, nine other consoles.
Speaker 4: That it's really starts to get insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, let's talk about some of the features that's
Speaker 3: moving on from hardware inspecs we're getting. We mentioned game
Speaker 3: chat earlier, but I guess basically Nintendo is adding their
Speaker 3: own version of Discord and voice chat into Bacon into
Speaker 3: the Switch too. You do need to be a Nintendo
Speaker 3: Online member to access this feature, although they're going to
Speaker 3: be beta running it for like a year for free
Speaker 3: to kind of get people on board.
Speaker 5: This and so game chat will allow you. They showed
Speaker 5: it in the direct video, four people playing Mario Kart
Speaker 5: with on the bottom of the screen all four of
Speaker 5: their images. They're chatting with each other.
Speaker 4: Like, oh way, you have your camera power.
Speaker 5: Grind along the wall here right, and you have your
Speaker 5: video image. And then later on they showed another installment
Speaker 5: of it with Mario Party Jamboree, where the characters or
Speaker 5: the players faces are recognized by the camera and then
Speaker 5: sort of inserted into elements of Mario Party like in
Speaker 5: small ways not.
Speaker 2: Which is also hilarious because like they used to do
Speaker 2: that on the Wii, where it was just like your
Speaker 2: shitty photo was like you got a Mario, you got
Speaker 2: like a mushroom head and you're playing Mario Party. So
Speaker 2: I kind of love how like old this is like
Speaker 2: I do love the Nintendo. Even when they launched the Switch,
Speaker 2: we were all like, wow, this is not gonna last.
Speaker 2: It is like so far behind what everyone else is doing,
Speaker 2: but they're kind of keeping that tradition up. And you
Speaker 2: know what, the Switch is like one of the most
Speaker 2: successful consoles of all time, So you know what, do
Speaker 2: something else that's ten years behind on software? Why not?
Speaker 2: Like maybe this will introduce a whole new generation. I mean,
Speaker 2: I talk about this a lot on the pod, but
Speaker 2: I do have the Nintendo Online membership. I do have
Speaker 2: the family account, and me and my nephew play the
Speaker 2: shared like online Super Nintendo and Nintendo games so much
Speaker 2: more than anything else. Like he loves to go on
Speaker 2: there and play Kirby's dream World or like a side
Speaker 2: scrolling beat him up or whatever, and just like we
Speaker 2: FaceTime each other and talk. So I would say, if
Speaker 2: the camera works, if I want to pay fifty dollars
Speaker 2: for a camera, which I already need to buy a
Speaker 2: camera for podcasting, so I probably will not buy that
Speaker 2: fifty dollars camera like I but I'm sure that that
Speaker 2: would actually as someone who plays with a kid regularly,
Speaker 2: that would mean we wouldn't have to FaceTime. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: I think that there is like families who are probably
Speaker 2: immediately just gonna tap into this and not think, oh
Speaker 2: it's you know, I could be doing this on discorder. Oh,
Speaker 2: I could be doing it somewhere else. They're gonna think, oh,
Speaker 2: this is a way to do it with nothing else easier.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the next feature is the mouse em of the
Speaker 5: joy Con step Carmen, you take the floor. You are
Speaker 5: are very dismissive of this idea.
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't understand it. I think it's gonna
Speaker 4: end up like the new IR camera because remember, you know,
Speaker 4: the the the first Switch had the IR camera which
Speaker 4: never really got used. And I'm just trying to think
Speaker 4: of a practical way to implement this. So I'm either
Speaker 4: playing the Switch on my couch, either in handheld mode
Speaker 4: or on the TV. I'm playing in my bed before
Speaker 4: I go to bed or when I wake up, or
Speaker 4: I'm playing in a chair or something like that. I
Speaker 4: don't always have like a table in front of me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so where the hell am I gonna, you know, put
Speaker 4: the mouse down and start using that? And so I
Speaker 4: am a little bit skeptical.
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting, and it's you know, as a
Speaker 1: way to try and build some authenticity with like hardcore
Speaker 1: FPS gamers for Metroid Prime and yeah whatever like whatever
Speaker 1: kind of like multiplayer element they might be going for,
Speaker 1: and certainly I think for you know, the continued access
Speaker 1: to the Fortnite ecosystem. It's interesting, but I but I'm
Speaker 1: very wait and see on this again. This feels like
Speaker 1: not why you have Nintendo. If I wanted to do this,
Speaker 1: I go anywhere else.
Speaker 4: And also the joy Con is like kind of skinny,
Speaker 4: so holding that in your hand like.
Speaker 3: Er, that's just like this is.
Speaker 2: Nintendo has been doing a lot of funny hardware announcements
Speaker 2: recently Alarmed Camera. So do you think, yes, do you
Speaker 2: think this is a way that I believe that's the
Speaker 2: official name right the Nintendo, But like, do you think
Speaker 2: this is just the way for them? Do they want
Speaker 2: to sell like an external mouse because they want people
Speaker 2: to get used to using it with like, oh, this
Speaker 2: isn't actually enjoyable. It would be better if I could
Speaker 2: just plug a mouse in.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I want to try this pro.
Speaker 2: It feels like it's some kind of hardware sale to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see that. I could see that they
Speaker 4: haven't announced anything like that, yeah, because they do have
Speaker 4: all the accessories lists to it. But I could totally
Speaker 4: see them being like and here's the switch mouse pro.
Speaker 5: Well as as someone who had the super Nintendo Super Scope.
Speaker 5: I have to say Nintendo never misses with a gimmicky item, but.
Speaker 3: That is true.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see. But if there was a game that
Speaker 5: you wanted to try, look at how good this transition was.
Speaker 5: If there was a game you wanted to try someone
Speaker 5: else had and you didn't have, like maybe this Rocket
Speaker 5: League Roller Derby game, Nintendo is introducing.
Speaker 4: Game Shrag and Drive by the way Dragon Drive.
Speaker 5: Yes, game share this means if four people somehow all
Speaker 5: have switched to but only one of them has Mario Kart,
Speaker 5: all four of you can play as long as you're
Speaker 5: sitting next to each other on like Local Basic. You
Speaker 5: share a QR code or something.
Speaker 3: They used to have.
Speaker 2: They used to have that on certain things on the DS,
Speaker 2: where like you could jump into other people's games and
Speaker 2: occasionally play, but it's never been something way you can
Speaker 2: do this. I think this is really smart, especially with
Speaker 2: eighty dollar games. Obviously, we're just all gonna have to
Speaker 2: like travel to New York and play with a boo
Speaker 2: every time he wants to play like game, that's just
Speaker 2: gonna be us. But I think this is the biggest
Speaker 2: announcement ironic.
Speaker 1: It's a huge announcement, and it's I think it's really
Speaker 1: it's a smart strategy. I mean, it's the drug dealer strategy, right,
Speaker 1: you give them one for free. There's no world in
Speaker 1: which if you don't own Mario Kart and you have
Speaker 1: a great time playing it with your friend who do
Speaker 1: own it, that you're not gonna think. I would love
Speaker 1: to buy Mario Kart as soon as I actually, And
Speaker 1: so this is smart because you're basically cultivating a future
Speaker 1: purchase of whatever game allows this.
Speaker 5: It's like the version of having a demo of the
Speaker 5: game is just how fun.
Speaker 3: This is with your friend?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You better?
Speaker 5: Yes, all right, speaking of we just talked about it,
Speaker 5: let's talk about Mario Kart World. This was the open
Speaker 5: Nintendo Direct. It is, in essence like kind of an
Speaker 5: open world racing game. Yeah, an entire map that, like
Speaker 5: Grand Prix, you basically drive from one end of the
Speaker 5: map to the other. They showcased the Grand Prix I
Speaker 5: think also now has twenty four total racers. There's a
Speaker 5: new mode where you have checkpoints and if you don't
Speaker 5: get in the top sixteen, top eight at each checkpoint,
Speaker 5: you just get knocked out. This looks very fun.
Speaker 3: This looks you can play.
Speaker 5: As the cow, which, yeah, I'm not going to spend
Speaker 5: eighty dollars to play. Oh wait, you can play as
Speaker 5: the cow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, game share with me one time and
Speaker 3: then I'm going to be a sucker and pay eighty
Speaker 3: books for it.
Speaker 2: Also like this, this will be the bundle that's available
Speaker 2: on day one, which is why all bus have been
Speaker 2: playing Mario Car eight for five years because that was
Speaker 2: the bundle. So yeah, I mean, we're all going to
Speaker 2: play this. It looks great. I want to know how
Speaker 2: open world it is. I think promising something is open
Speaker 2: world is always dangerous because then people immediately want to
Speaker 2: go what.
Speaker 5: Was it that open world break in?
Speaker 3: But looks fun.
Speaker 2: I would play, and I think this is really smart.
Speaker 5: The next game they announced was Nintendo switch To Welcome Tour.
Speaker 5: This is like a user manual for your Switch Slash,
Speaker 5: also a museum exhibit where you basically like learn about
Speaker 5: the switch to.
Speaker 4: This one was wild to me, but it's not free, correct, it's.
Speaker 3: Not crazy with your four hundred and fifty dollars console.
Speaker 4: I am not buying that crazy.
Speaker 3: You got to buy the book separately.
Speaker 4: That's going to be very quickly and I'm going to
Speaker 4: buy this. There's actually very little that I'm not going
Speaker 4: to buy that announced today.
Speaker 3: I am the time.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of a sucker. Yeah, I'm a sorrier.
Speaker 5: Moving on, moving on from you know, Nintendo User Manual,
Speaker 5: we have Dragon Drive, which is the Rocket League gest
Speaker 5: game that that we briefly mentioned. Next up, the first
Speaker 5: like kind of big name thing they talked about after
Speaker 5: Mario Kart is High Real Warriors Age of an years. Carmen,
Speaker 5: when you and I were texting about this, you immediately
Speaker 5: went off on this, like in a good way, not yeah,
Speaker 5: go ahead, Oh yeah, No.
Speaker 4: I knew immediately, you know, when they were teasing it,
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, this is a new because the
Speaker 4: Coe techmo. I was like, oh, that's a nude Highro
Speaker 4: Warriors game. I loved the first Highro Warriors game. I
Speaker 4: think it was called like Age of No Yeah, I
Speaker 4: think it was the Age of Calamity. Great games. It's
Speaker 4: if you like Dynasty Warriors, you know you would love
Speaker 4: these games. It's like a real fun, like quick hack
Speaker 4: and slash sort of battlefield game, and with the Tiers
Speaker 4: of the Kingdom stuff added to it, which I think
Speaker 4: is just going to be so much fun and playing.
Speaker 4: I think you can play with some of the Zoni characters.
Speaker 4: And there were some really interesting levels they were teasing
Speaker 4: in that so and it comes out in winter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they showed fighting a lionel. They were fighting the
Speaker 5: big frog thing. I mean, like lots of the days. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Next up we have Kirby Air Riders, a sequel to
Speaker 5: the I think it's twenty year old game Kirby Air Rider.
Speaker 5: We see Kirby in the cinematic on his star and
Speaker 5: then the star is not fast enough and it turns
Speaker 5: into a rocket ship with you know, jets and boom.
Speaker 5: We are in now, Carmen, you again had some information
Speaker 5: on this. We're gonna save that for a bit in
Speaker 5: the end when we talk about some more games. But
Speaker 5: we will come back to Kirby Air Riders. But then
Speaker 5: what next one is one that I am very excited about.
Speaker 5: When we were briefly mentioning what games do we think
Speaker 5: they're going to launch with, you know, exeld the Boom.
Speaker 5: I am a huge Donkey Kong fan, and I said
Speaker 5: there was going to be a Donkey Kong country game.
Speaker 5: Well maybe not. D don't Pong love us?
Speaker 2: So I'm very excited about this. Dun't Kong Country was
Speaker 2: one of the like seminal games.
Speaker 5: So the new game is called Donkey Kong Bonanza Banza.
Speaker 5: Get it bonanza a boo. That's ten dollars extra for
Speaker 5: the pun in the name if you're ready.
Speaker 2: And everyone's spelling it wrong like it's bonanza. But guys,
Speaker 2: it's a bananza like a banana.
Speaker 4: Right exactly.
Speaker 5: And so this game features almost a fully destructible environment.
Speaker 5: You are digging. You are just going hulk mode as
Speaker 5: you break up a mountain and you break up boxes,
Speaker 5: and uh, you are instructive kind of digging. It looks
Speaker 5: very interesting. There's a mix of three D and two
Speaker 5: D zones. I think it looks great. Nintendo Switch one
Speaker 5: games will be getting some upgrades, so they're a number
Speaker 5: that they pointed out. The first one is Super Mario
Speaker 5: Party Jamboerrie we mentioned it earlier. We also have switched
Speaker 5: to upgrades of Breath of the Wild and Tears. So
Speaker 5: the Kingdom Metroid Prime for Beyond will come out first
Speaker 5: on Switch one and also have a switch to upgrade. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and uh, I don't think anyone cares about this game,
Speaker 5: but Pokemon legends Za.
Speaker 2: This is like the one where all the Pokemons are pizzas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, good Pia.
Speaker 2: Exactly, Okay, can I ask you? Can I ask you
Speaker 2: guys a question as a person. So this just means like,
Speaker 2: if you already own Breath of the Wild, you can
Speaker 2: put it in your switch to and it will immediately
Speaker 2: be you have to buy it.
Speaker 5: You have to buy an up you have to buy
Speaker 5: a grade.
Speaker 2: Scandalous to me. I'm like, I'm sorry if they just
Speaker 2: make it backwards compatible like.
Speaker 3: Grada with no pricing announced at all.
Speaker 4: Now it is, it is still backwards compatible. But if
Speaker 4: you want to switch to.
Speaker 5: Okay have to. You can still play your old Okay on.
Speaker 5: But if you want the addition of the game chat
Speaker 5: and the video elements added in to Mario Party Jam three.
Speaker 3: Or like the better graphics and the I.
Speaker 2: W also hope without any announcements, and because I am
Speaker 2: a switch online Superstan, I will hope that this is
Speaker 2: some kind of switch Probably it goes from being eighty
Speaker 2: dollars a year to one hundred and fifty dollars a year,
Speaker 2: and maybe this upgrading is upscaling, is like including it
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be smart to roll it into the membership.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: For context, for example, like Xbox is quite lenient about
Speaker 3: their upgrades, Like if you have an Xbox Series S
Speaker 3: and you get an x you just get when you
Speaker 3: buy a game, you have both versions, and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, congratulate a budget version. It's just no good games
Speaker 5: because it's and it takes whatever version.
Speaker 3: I would argue that's false. On PlayStation, they have an
Speaker 3: upgrade model basically what Nintendo is doing here, and PlayStation
Speaker 3: upgrades from like if you have a PS four version
Speaker 3: and you want the PS five version, usually costs like
Speaker 3: ten bucks. Oh okay, we'll see how Nintendo price is it? Yeah,
Speaker 3: hopefully not more than ten dollars.
Speaker 2: Well, another thing that I'm really excited about is, uh
Speaker 2: the GameCube we all guess is probably gonna happen coming
Speaker 2: to Nintendo Switch online. I play those emulators a lot.
Speaker 2: It's very smart of them to put them on there easily,
Speaker 2: because otherwise people are just going to play them on
Speaker 2: like a Raspberry Pie or whatever.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that is cool, and I really
Speaker 4: can launch titles with that too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was happy to see Pokemon Colisseum on there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like that you put We're that much closer to
Speaker 2: a WE Virtual console on the switch too. I think
Speaker 2: that is definitely going to happen.
Speaker 4: Which makes me feel so old y'all to think about
Speaker 4: I've been playing Nintendo for that long that I'm about
Speaker 4: to get the WE virtual console on.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's quiet, Carbon both talk about you're talking about
Speaker 5: I'm sorry I had the original.
Speaker 2: Game comments like look, I must sweep baby.
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Speaker 5: third party games, and then we're going to talk about
Speaker 5: what s which a Nintendo director didn't tell us.
Speaker 2: M Common, We're.
Speaker 4: Back, Yes, we're back, Hi hi di eva.
Speaker 2: What the what are the third party games beget in Common?
Speaker 4: Oh? My gosh, so Cyberpunk Split Fiction briefing, uh yaquiza
Speaker 4: the director's cut.
Speaker 2: Oh, everyone loves those games Big and Discus.
Speaker 5: So these are yeah, these are same day launches from
Speaker 5: third party to developers. Uh So, let's get into some
Speaker 5: of the third party games that will launch. Ay, yeah,
Speaker 5: a little bit. We have some some very big name
Speaker 5: properties here, street Fighter six, We've got a Hitman World
Speaker 5: of Assassination signature edition. We've got Aboo's favorite favorite game,
Speaker 5: Star Wars Outlaws. We have Carmen's favorite four games EA Sports, FC, Madden, NFL,
Speaker 5: W NBA two K but okay, enough beating around the bush.
Speaker 5: Two games that we'll be coming to switch to. We
Speaker 5: have Hades two and we have elden Ring Tarnish edition.
Speaker 2: That is great ring on my switch. Can I just say,
Speaker 2: also furthering the unpopular online theory that alden Ring is
Speaker 2: a cozy game on the switch, I am very excited
Speaker 2: for all of you to play the cozy game that
Speaker 2: is elden Ring, and we will get more into some cozy.
Speaker 3: Games in bed before going to sleep. Yeah, get your
Speaker 3: heart rate above one, make a little.
Speaker 2: Make a little character, you know, go do some docs.
Speaker 2: Go to it.
Speaker 5: There's a streamer who I've seen some videos of and
Speaker 5: she wears a heart rate monitor while she plays games.
Speaker 5: She like, mostly does horror games, so I don't watch that.
Speaker 5: But the other set of games she plays is from
Speaker 5: soft Games, so she'll like play Dark Souls three and
Speaker 5: like see how her heart gets while playing the bosses
Speaker 5: elden Ring. I've talked about it on this show many times.
Speaker 5: I love it. It consumed my life. The month that
Speaker 5: came out, and then the DLC came out, and that
Speaker 5: consumed my life. Hades two, I don't want to gloss
Speaker 5: over that. The first one was one of my favorite
Speaker 5: games ever. Maybe I loved it. It is such a
Speaker 5: perfect roguelike game.
Speaker 3: Aboo.
Speaker 5: I know you have played or watched Haities two.
Speaker 3: I've been playing it. I've been playing a ton on
Speaker 3: steam Deck.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have not yet have made it because I
Speaker 5: don't have Steam and I don't have a Steam Deck.
Speaker 5: Steam Deck is too expensive. I'm not willing to put
Speaker 5: up the money for that. So I can't wait to
Speaker 5: drop eighty dollars on Hades two when it comes out
Speaker 5: on this hundred dollars console. But we also got some
Speaker 5: new titles, things that have not been released anywhere else,
Speaker 5: and untitled James Bond Project Double seven.
Speaker 2: Now I'm like, I'm confused, I'm interested. I'm interested.
Speaker 5: Obviously. If you're as old as Rosie and I, you
Speaker 5: have fond memories of Golden Eye, the original James Bond
Speaker 5: Nintendo Marriage, which was beautiful memory. Okay, moving on, my
Speaker 5: ears don't hear above a certain frequency that I didn't know.
Speaker 4: Aram was the same.
Speaker 2: I didn't know a was old like me.
Speaker 5: Now I know, I see we also have this is
Speaker 5: I think enormous Hollow Nights Elks Song. Yes, actually a
Speaker 5: big deal is coming out on Nintendo Switch to a boo.
Speaker 5: How excited are you?
Speaker 3: I think potentially enormous If this is true, we.
Speaker 2: Have actually comes out.
Speaker 3: We have been promised Silk Song every year for like
Speaker 3: the past five years.
Speaker 5: I am funny, like post on Reddit about video games
Speaker 5: is always like, oh is this Silk Song? Is this
Speaker 5: Bloodborn too? And now maybe we have one?
Speaker 3: But yeah, but again it said all its stated on
Speaker 3: screen was twenty twenty five, no winterfall, summer, no like,
Speaker 3: no window of time, just a year, and that has
Speaker 3: been that happened before with Silk Song. And then I
Speaker 3: got to so I'm I'm crossing.
Speaker 2: I feel this pain. Can it really be true?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Look, if you're gonna if you're gonna make a perfect game,
Speaker 3: it's gonna take time.
Speaker 5: So yeah, Silk Song. Another cozy game. Another another sequel
Speaker 5: that's been announced, the and two. The first one is
Speaker 5: on Switch Survival Kids. I don't entirely understand what this
Speaker 5: game is about. It's kids living on an island and
Speaker 5: they're fishing and climbing and throwing to Speaking of Cozy,
Speaker 5: We've got witch.
Speaker 3: Flies. Yeah, yeah, very cool simulator.
Speaker 5: We have Witchbrook, which we talked about the news an
Speaker 5: earlier episode, but here we are. It's the switch and
Speaker 5: switch to.
Speaker 3: It's so cute.
Speaker 2: Yea and twenty five. I will be playing for Christmas.
Speaker 5: If you've decided that you've had enough Witches. You got
Speaker 5: Tomagotchi Plaza coming. I don't know anything about this game,
Speaker 5: but the fact that it's Tima Gotcha is interesting, and.
Speaker 2: Also Tama Gotchi saw having a moment. I see lots
Speaker 2: of kids with them. Now they've rebooted. They kind of
Speaker 2: tried to make them modern and you could connect it
Speaker 2: to your computer and your phone, but they're back to
Speaker 2: the old school ones, so I think they like now yeah,
Speaker 2: I think this is like a fun little experience. But
Speaker 2: the next game is the one I know being common
Speaker 2: are going.
Speaker 4: To be like, we please, We're all going to be on.
Speaker 2: Game Bloodborn too.
Speaker 5: Correct This cinematic started and I jokingly said Bloodborn too,
Speaker 5: and then Carmen was like, is this Caslvanian? I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: maybe they're like trying to do a blood Born esque Castlevan,
Speaker 5: like skinny blood in Caslvania something no, we get the
Speaker 5: quintessential from Soft voiceover something in a voice delivered like this,
Speaker 5: the blood terrifying, channeling history roll away and then the
Speaker 5: hand dripping and falling, very very from Soft and we
Speaker 5: have a brand new from Soft ip from Soft Crazy
Speaker 5: from is known for Dark Souls, Dark Souls two three, Bloodborn, Secoro,
Speaker 5: Elden Ring, Armored Cores. This is a brand new property.
Speaker 5: This is you are a vampire. It looks like yes
Speaker 5: you uh there you are called. They mentioned the Carrier
Speaker 5: of Blood. There are mounts. You can transform into a dinosaur.
Speaker 1: At some point I was like, okay, frog with huge massive.
Speaker 5: And the important important thing, Yeah, cozy game. It's a
Speaker 5: cozy game. A famous thing with from Soft games is
Speaker 5: these are solo games that you can call in other
Speaker 5: people to help you with boss fights, or you can
Speaker 5: get invaded by other people. So they're typically considered like
Speaker 5: player verse player at times, but mostly you're fighting the enemy.
Speaker 5: This game has is on from Soft's website. Is called
Speaker 5: a PVPVE multiplayer action game in which up to eight
Speaker 5: players can fight each other and fight against enemies. So
Speaker 5: eight as far as I know, in any from Soft.
Speaker 3: Out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, finally this will launch in twenty twenty six as
Speaker 5: a Nintendo Switch exclusive. And let me tell you, as
Speaker 5: soon as this went up, I went onto the firm
Speaker 5: Soft reddit. People were pissed that this would be an exclusive.
Speaker 5: So now a little back. Bloodborne is generally considered one
Speaker 5: of the greatest games ever, and especially as far as
Speaker 5: from Soft games go. It is incredible. It has horrible,
Speaker 5: scary you know, love crafty and nightmare vibes, but it
Speaker 5: is just an incredible game. And I say horrible because
Speaker 5: I don't like scary things. Bloodborne is incredible. The IP
Speaker 5: belongs to Sony, So as much as people want a
Speaker 5: Bloodborn too, from Soft cannot make it unless Sony agrees
Speaker 5: and says, yes, let's go ahead and do this. That's
Speaker 5: why there's not been a remake. There's been no sequel
Speaker 5: over the years, and nobody knows, but it is possible.
Speaker 5: From Soft was just like, we're tired of waiting to
Speaker 5: make Bloodborne too, and Nintendo's like, come make this, come.
Speaker 4: Make this, you can do it. Hit do some crazy shit,
Speaker 4: can I say? Immediately, I was hooked by this aesthetic
Speaker 4: because I thought for five seconds when I was watching
Speaker 4: this trailer, I thought, is this a Vampire Hunter?
Speaker 5: D Yeah?
Speaker 4: It get us because like, god, right, did you see
Speaker 4: the train?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That was like red and like all and I and
Speaker 4: and so the aesthetics are like ooh, I just cannot
Speaker 4: wait to play this game. And I think you can
Speaker 4: make your own characters based.
Speaker 5: On I mean, if it's a from Soft game, you
Speaker 5: can sort of make your own character.
Speaker 4: But this will be my first from Soft, which.
Speaker 5: Is very exciting.
Speaker 2: I think. Also, I'm like, I am eager to see
Speaker 2: like how this really looks on the Switch too, because look,
Speaker 2: I'm I have played many games on the Switch. I
Speaker 2: was I was like playing that Terror More or Combat
Speaker 2: eleven Port that was like so ugly and bad, and
Speaker 2: this looks so intricate and fun and beautiful. I hope
Speaker 2: the Switch too has the juice, but if not, it
Speaker 2: will still be funny.
Speaker 5: Now, look the cinematic for this from Soft cinematics typically
Speaker 5: you know, some element of the trailer is game in
Speaker 5: game engine. It's not the most amazing looking cinematic you're
Speaker 5: ever gonna see from Soft. Games have never been like
Speaker 5: this is the greatest graphical achievement. No Soft.
Speaker 2: I knew they were like, but can you turn into
Speaker 2: a vampire dinosaur?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Gotta know more about that.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 5: Well, I just got a text from a Boo and
Speaker 5: he was like, can we stop talking about from Soft?
Speaker 5: I want to spend another twenty minutes on Survival Kids.
Speaker 5: So a Boo, the floor is yours. Let's talk about
Speaker 5: Survival No, just kidding. We're gonna go to add and
Speaker 5: we will be right back to talk about what we
Speaker 5: didn't get in Nintendo Directly and we're back. All right.
Speaker 5: Here is where we are going to point out all
Speaker 5: the things that the questions we still have because it
Speaker 5: was an hour and there was a lot they left out,
Speaker 5: So Aboo, I'm going to throw to you first and foremost. Yeah,
Speaker 5: what is your first question coming out of Nintendo Direct.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm going to continue to sound so cheap on
Speaker 3: this episode, but I'm wondering how much these upgrade packs
Speaker 3: are for the games.
Speaker 2: I think it's a reasonable question, like, especially in an
Speaker 2: inflation style time, especially the fact that we all literally,
Speaker 2: like I know, fifteen minutes away from hearing about these
Speaker 2: global tariffs or whatever. Like, I think you're asking the
Speaker 2: important questions, especially because even though in the back in
Speaker 2: the day when Super Nintendo was the king of the
Speaker 2: consoles and stuff, those games could be eighty ninety dollars.
Speaker 2: It was a different time. It's kind of switch has
Speaker 2: seemed like the more affordable option when it comes to
Speaker 2: next gen consoles. So I think you're asking the right
Speaker 2: questions and also questions that a lot of people who
Speaker 2: are watching this thinking like how am I going to
Speaker 2: pay for my groceries? How am I going to buy
Speaker 2: my fifteen dollar eggs or whatever are going to be
Speaker 2: thinking the same thing, like.
Speaker 3: Right, what or fifteen dollars? Yea egg fifteen? I mean
Speaker 3: my other question that goes hand in hand with that
Speaker 3: is how significant are these upgrades?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Because it seems to vary. We got a couple of
Speaker 3: examples in the direct today. Some are just visual upgrades.
Speaker 3: Some have like a whole other expansion pack tacked onto
Speaker 3: the switch to version that you don't get with the
Speaker 3: Switch one version. Some are just like now it supports
Speaker 3: HDR and so, and you can use the mouse in
Speaker 3: Mario Party in and out put your face off screen
Speaker 3: with the camera, But like, is the game Mario Party
Speaker 3: any different? Like what if I don't care about my
Speaker 3: face being on the screen? So like, That's my other
Speaker 3: question that kind of goes hand in hand with how
Speaker 3: expensive are the upgrade pack? Is how significant are the
Speaker 3: visual and performance and feature upgrades from Switch one to
Speaker 3: Switch too and are? And like, you know, I suppose
Speaker 3: the invisible hand of capitalism will decide like, is it
Speaker 3: worth the minimal upgrades to pay X amount of price
Speaker 3: or will it be priced different per upgrade?
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, I'm guessing if we think
Speaker 4: about like so, for example, they're doing an upgraded version
Speaker 4: of there's gonna be a switch to version of Metroid
Speaker 4: Prime four, right, and there's gonna be a Switch one
Speaker 4: version of Metroid Prime four. And my guess is that
Speaker 4: the Switch one version will sell at the you know,
Speaker 4: average sixty dollars that it sells out right now, and
Speaker 4: that upgraded version will be like the seventy dollars that's
Speaker 4: being talked about or the eighty dollars that's being talked about. Personally,
Speaker 4: I am not really willing to pay more than ten
Speaker 4: dollars for an upgrade that is only just a graphics upscaling.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna pay maybe ten dollars for an up great
Speaker 4: if it is including like some sort of expansion, which
Speaker 4: some of the ones, Yeah, totally. Yeah, it's case by
Speaker 4: case for me for sure.
Speaker 5: Now, speaking of games that will be with Launch, like
Speaker 5: Survival Kids, boo, what's your next question?
Speaker 3: Okay, not to Uh, I'm really coming off as a hater.
Speaker 3: I want to preface all of this. I'll be getting
Speaker 3: a switch to and I'm excited to ask.
Speaker 2: For free to play Survival Kids by Extra Vision.
Speaker 3: But uh, let me ask a very boring like bordroom
Speaker 3: c suite, fucking corporate guy only cares about charts question.
Speaker 3: This direct ended on big announcements around Kirby Games and
Speaker 3: Donkey Kong Games, and of course then yeah, the from
Speaker 3: software game. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the final three things announced were those three from
Speaker 5: Soft Kirby air Riders and Donkey Kong Bonanza Bonanza, right.
Speaker 3: And you know typically with these announcements you save your
Speaker 3: big bombshells for the end. So those were our big
Speaker 3: bombshells the end. I'm kind of left with the question,
Speaker 3: does Kirby and Donkey Kong like still have the juice? Like,
Speaker 3: do these franchises still have the clout to move switch
Speaker 3: to sales to get record breaking sales for this content?
Speaker 2: I will be here to say, Donkey Kong, I believe
Speaker 2: is still sells these consoles for someone like me. I
Speaker 2: got like a we whatever the Wei version was, so
Speaker 2: they had the Donkey Kong Freeze Aaron, I'm sure you
Speaker 2: yeh on that Frozen Country or whatever it was where
Speaker 2: it was kind of a remarster levels.
Speaker 5: As the person. I've actually forgotten the name of it.
Speaker 2: But I did also buy that for the switch, right,
Speaker 2: Like I love Donkey Kong, That to me is a
Speaker 2: perennial thing that I returned to. I think Donkey Kong
Speaker 2: is higher up on the rankings than you would expect
Speaker 2: because I do think it has an almost Mario level
Speaker 2: recognition with people who've been playing games of a certain era. Now,
Speaker 2: I will say I think I think Kirby Air Riders
Speaker 2: is one of the things that Nintendo does really well.
Speaker 2: I think this is more of a meme drop game
Speaker 2: because this is something that people have talked about for
Speaker 2: a long time. They it's kind of like a beloved
Speaker 2: fan fave online as a weird game. It also came
Speaker 2: out the same year as another racing game when that
Speaker 2: when it was originally released, So I think this is
Speaker 2: more of a like, hey, we're listening to you like
Speaker 2: Wink Wink. Like Kirby air Riders, I don't think that
Speaker 2: one is meant to push the button of like Price.
Speaker 2: I think Kirby is more like that's a character that
Speaker 2: they love that is very mean and that they want
Speaker 2: people to know. Hey, we're still making stuff. You still
Speaker 2: buy Kirby toys, You buy a Kirby t shirt and target,
Speaker 2: you have a you know, I have little Kirby earrings
Speaker 2: where Kirby's holding the knife. Not official, sorry, Nintendo. But
Speaker 2: if you want to.
Speaker 4: Make some, you know, go for it.
Speaker 2: So I think that the Kirby is is less so,
Speaker 2: but I do I think Donkey Kong is higher than Kirby.
Speaker 2: I would also say, and I know you are going
Speaker 2: to power rank these. I want to say, as somebody
Speaker 2: who knows and loves some sweet gen Z babies in
Speaker 2: my life, Pickmen is much higher than.
Speaker 4: You would expect. I know, really, dude.
Speaker 2: There is a Pickmin mobile game that is essentially like Pokemon.
Speaker 2: Go Pickman Bloom and you walk and you find different
Speaker 2: pickmen you and you plant flowers. I know people who
Speaker 2: play that every single day, and it's a part of
Speaker 2: their that is a part of their walking routine. It's
Speaker 2: a part of their fitness routine, and they are not alone.
Speaker 2: So I will say I think Pickman is Actually I
Speaker 2: would say also higher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just surprised that they're not trying to
Speaker 3: pair a new console with one of their A List properties, right,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: It's that's like animal crossing Marrio, Like.
Speaker 3: I would almost wait for this console to come out
Speaker 3: within until my next A List property was ready.
Speaker 4: Yeah, rop, I guess.
Speaker 3: It's it's why I like Switch one and uh Breadth
Speaker 3: of the Wild were the perfect pairing. Like, those two
Speaker 3: as a pair were the reason the Switch one sold.
Speaker 3: Followed that up with Mario ot to See You, follow
Speaker 3: that up with a new Smash Brothers game, New Mario Kart,
Speaker 3: Like you're like A list bangers after like banger after banger,
Speaker 3: just leaning on your A List team to like carry
Speaker 3: this switch to like record breaking sales. I'm a little
Speaker 3: skeptical that the Switch Too is going to be able
Speaker 3: to do that all right. On the back of Donkey Kong.
Speaker 5: Rosie hints it at this a boo, can you give
Speaker 5: us your Nintendo original ips?
Speaker 3: Yes? Hold on, I gotta scroll through all of your
Speaker 3: highlights and comments saying, how dare you?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's just read through a booze notes and
Speaker 5: I was just suspended at every turn.
Speaker 3: Okay, here as a casual Nintendo fan, here's where I
Speaker 3: kind of see Nintendo's like main ips power ranked basically
Speaker 3: in your A list, like I said, you have your Zelda's,
Speaker 3: your Marios, you have Pokemon of course you're dropping that
Speaker 3: every year, and then you have Smash Brothers. And then
Speaker 3: I would in in the B list, I would argue
Speaker 3: something like Animal Crossing or Splatoon, like these are still
Speaker 3: moving console sales, these still have cultural.
Speaker 2: Massively popular competitive gaming, Like it's a hugely popular even
Speaker 2: if we don't see it. It's like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Not so huge in the West, but like especially like
Speaker 3: in Japan's Platoon is huge.
Speaker 2: I would put Animal Crossing a little bit higher. Just
Speaker 2: I do think it's earned its way up to almost
Speaker 2: in A because like most people know who KK Slider
Speaker 2: is now, I think so far I agree with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah totally. I mean A and B is like pretty
Speaker 3: it's a slippery slope. You know, those could all move around.
Speaker 5: Just to recap your eight tier is Zelda, Mario, Pokemon,
Speaker 5: Smash Brothers. That's right, the Tiers, Animal Crossing, and Splatoon.
Speaker 3: And then now we're getting into the C list celebs.
Speaker 3: Here we have Kirby and Metroid, which I think were
Speaker 3: in their prime twenty years awrime and have and have
Speaker 3: like slipped off of that quite a bit, you know,
Speaker 3: Like the last Kirby game that I remember loving was
Speaker 3: Kirby's epic Yarn right like Pike game. I loved it.
Speaker 3: Haven't played a Kirby game since, you know, or I
Speaker 3: haven't felt the desire to play a more recent Kurby game.
Speaker 3: And then in D list again controversial, I suppose, but
Speaker 3: like I'm putting Donkey Kong down there, like I forget
Speaker 3: Donkey Kong exists until he randomly shows up in someone
Speaker 3: else's property like a Mario movie. And then I guess
Speaker 3: I'm wrong about Pickman. I don't know any uh anyone
Speaker 3: that plays Pickman. And then star Fox, which I played
Speaker 3: so much on the Nintendo sixty four but has basically
Speaker 3: been a forgotten property since that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, I would also like this is such
Speaker 2: a weird thing, but I will say I do know
Speaker 2: that it's massively popular with like your kind of general
Speaker 2: gamer who just has a switch because it's affordable. And
Speaker 2: Rabbits Mario Rabbits crossover games have been like massively.
Speaker 5: The first one. The second one was not as big
Speaker 5: of a success.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, okay, So there's there's my controversial Nintendo
Speaker 3: IP cheer.
Speaker 2: List for you, scandalous Donkey Donkey Kong.
Speaker 4: Yeah, justice for Metroid because I think Metroid, you know,
Speaker 4: you're hinted at not in its prime anymore, but when
Speaker 4: it was at its prime, and Metroid prime, it was
Speaker 4: a huge game for the first person shooter genre, you know,
Speaker 4: at that time. And I think, so for me, Metroid
Speaker 4: goes up to be and then I think Donkey Kong
Speaker 4: goes up to see you know, that's what everything else.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's tough. Nintendo has a lot of
Speaker 5: great IP and so even if you are putting something
Speaker 5: in the beads here like that is still a very strong,
Speaker 5: pretty a boo. You've got animal crossing and be Tier
Speaker 5: like everyone absolutely huge huge property like there are.
Speaker 4: And it's regional too, like I think Kirby probably an
Speaker 4: a lister in Japan, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 4: I'm just facing that off of all of the Kirby
Speaker 4: shit that I saw.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was said, I didn't get to go to
Speaker 3: the Kirby Cafe when I went on this eight years ago.
Speaker 5: Now, I will say I'm not going to give give
Speaker 5: my Power Ranked and Nintendo IP because I didn't prep it.
Speaker 5: I will say that don Key Kong would definitely be
Speaker 5: probably be tier at least for me, because I just
Speaker 5: think Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Country two are
Speaker 5: two of the games that I consider like quintessential video games.
Speaker 5: The music, the gameplay, the entire thing, like is what
Speaker 5: I think of with video games, and that's what brought
Speaker 5: me into video gaming. So I would have it at
Speaker 5: least at a B tier, if not higher.
Speaker 4: He's getting a comeback with this new game in my opinion,
Speaker 4: because this new game feels like an odyssey to me,
Speaker 4: like a Mario odyssey. It does, you know, I will
Speaker 4: say a redesign I feel like for me, like that
Speaker 4: Deep Freeze, what Banana Freeze whatever.
Speaker 1: The.
Speaker 4: Tropical Freeze. Yes. I got kind of bored with like
Speaker 4: the side scrolling kind of platforming aspect of Donkey Kong
Speaker 4: because really Mario, it's like not that much different from
Speaker 4: Mario in my view. But this new twist on Donkey Kong.
Speaker 4: I think is it's his comeback era. I think, you know,
Speaker 4: and don't forget he has a he just got a
Speaker 4: theme park at Universal Studios Japan, probably coming to Universal
Speaker 4: Studios California too or wherever.
Speaker 5: That other one is a good thing to point out too.
Speaker 5: We talked about Nintendo Switch Online, where you can play
Speaker 5: old games. People are able to go back. They're able
Speaker 5: to rediscover my favorite Donkey Kong games. They're able to
Speaker 5: play Kirby game Boy games, and they can play you know,
Speaker 5: Super Metroid two like. They are able to rediscover these games,
Speaker 5: which hopefully builds a little bit of more buzz for
Speaker 5: these two launch titles. But I also just want to
Speaker 5: point out we are launching with one of Nintendo's biggest properties.
Speaker 5: We're launching with a Mario Kart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, which is their number one selling game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have a Mario Kart at launch. That's totally
Speaker 5: ne yah.
Speaker 4: And it's a new one. It's not just a re
Speaker 4: it's not a port, you know, which is what we
Speaker 4: got with the Switch because we had Mario Kart eight
Speaker 4: already on the WIU. So I'm actually hyped for Mario
Speaker 4: Kart World.
Speaker 5: I do want to say in addition to the A
Speaker 5: list tier of Nintendo ips. For me, at least is
Speaker 5: whatever the main character of the Dusk Bloods is called,
Speaker 5: because that's just gonna That's that sells it for me.
Speaker 5: Frum Soft is going to move unit. It's at least
Speaker 5: in this household.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, definitely Air. So before we wrap up, I
Speaker 4: think we got to talk about Smash Brothers, y'all, because
Speaker 4: that was a notable thing that was, you know, missing there.
Speaker 4: But if we noticed when we were watching the Kirby
Speaker 4: what is air Racers trailer, they made it a point
Speaker 4: at the end to be like and this game is
Speaker 4: directed by masha Heiro Soakarai, who is the developer of
Speaker 4: all of the previous games of Super Smash Brothers and
Speaker 4: also the guy who created Kirby. So he has been
Speaker 4: saying for a long time, and I believe since the
Speaker 4: WEU and like the three DS versions of Smash Brothers,
Speaker 4: he's like, I'm so fucking tired of making these games,
Speaker 4: and he's dedicated to making them. He makes them really great,
Speaker 4: but he's like, I just can't do it anymore. I
Speaker 4: don't have the juice. And so he has clearly moved
Speaker 4: on to Kirby Air Racers. I don't know if that
Speaker 4: means he's going to be rushing to get back in
Speaker 4: the development studio to make another Super Smash Brothers for us.
Speaker 4: So what do you guys think? Do you think that
Speaker 4: there is going to be a future for Super Smash
Speaker 4: Brothers or do you think what I what I'm what
Speaker 4: I'm envisioning for Super Smash Brothers and how I think
Speaker 4: it should be is that we just keep Ultimate and
Speaker 4: we just keep poorting and keep adding stuff to it
Speaker 4: over time. But do y'all think there's going to be
Speaker 4: a new Smash Brothers with a new developer at any time?
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 3: I personally, I think your vision is probably the most
Speaker 3: likely vision. Ultimate feels to me like the ultimate Smash
Speaker 3: brother you know, like this is Smash Brothers in its
Speaker 3: final form, you know, soccer as like this is it.
Speaker 3: I made you the game, y'all want it. It's perfect,
Speaker 3: It has every fucking character you can imagine in it,
Speaker 3: and we can continue to like, like to your point,
Speaker 3: they can always just re release it with like another
Speaker 3: stage or a missing classic stage from the previous game,
Speaker 3: bring it back and just resell it, you know. And
Speaker 3: I don't think I can't imagine what a new Smash
Speaker 3: Brothers game could do that Ultimate has not basically already
Speaker 3: achieved at this point.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I kind of agree, Aaron, what about you?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that this basically the two kind of
Speaker 5: long standing properties that are multiplayer Mario Kart and Smash Brothers.
Speaker 5: I have a feeling they will lean on one or
Speaker 5: the other at different times. And obviously there are different
Speaker 5: audiences in the competitive scene. The Smash Brothers competitive world
Speaker 5: is much different than a Mario Kart world. Yeah, but
Speaker 5: I also know that every new iteration of Smash there
Speaker 5: are still people who love the old one and prefer
Speaker 5: the old one.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there are still competitions of brawl.
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course. Of course. I think that it is
Speaker 5: very easy for them to continue with the lifespan of
Speaker 5: the current one, and if something fun and exciting comes
Speaker 5: up and they have an idea for a way to
Speaker 5: make the new one even better, great, they'll start working
Speaker 5: on it. But I think I was not expecting a
Speaker 5: new Smash Brothers.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wasn't either.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, when I saw Kirby, for a moment, I thought, oh,
Speaker 4: this could be new Smash Brothers. Because he likes to
Speaker 4: introduce it with Kirby because he does like that character. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I thought, ooh, could this be it? But no,
Speaker 4: I'm excited because I do think Kirby Air Racers, even
Speaker 4: though it's not like a smack, I do think. If
Speaker 4: there's anything I know about the games that this guy makes,
Speaker 4: is that it's going to have so much detail and
Speaker 4: so many little things that are added to it as
Speaker 4: like little extras, because he just loves to kind of
Speaker 4: go that and add all of those little details to
Speaker 4: the game. So yeah, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you all for joining us for our Nintendo
Speaker 5: Direct reaction. Thank you to Jason and Rosie who started
Speaker 5: off with us, but we lost them because they want
Speaker 5: to go play Donkey Kong Country, Tropic Freeze. I would
Speaker 5: have said Survival Kids, but it's not out yet, folks like,
Speaker 5: we can't do that joke yet. We'll get there. In
Speaker 5: the next few episodes of X Ray Vision, we are
Speaker 5: joined by special guest Danny Fernandez to discuss whether or
Speaker 5: not power Line is actually related to Goofy in our
Speaker 5: deep dive of the thirtieth anniversary of a Goofy movie,
Speaker 5: and then Jason and Rosie will be back to Tackle
Speaker 5: TV with Daredevil, Born Again, Last of Us, White Lotus
Speaker 5: and more. That's the episode. Thank you everyone for listening.
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