1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Hey folks, it is Saturday, February fourteenth, and we have 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: now seen one of the most shocking, the most stunning 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: collapses in Olympic history. And with that, welcome to this 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ. Rooves. It happened on the 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: biggest stage, and it happened to Augur arguably not just 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: the biggest American, but maybe one of the biggest names 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: overall in the Olympics. The quad God. 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: H the quad God his actual name Ilia Melanin, but 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: he was the darling of this Olympics. There were a 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: couple names and a couple athletes, a handful who everyone 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: was looking to an at to bring home gold. The 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: pressure cannot be anything short of almost debilitating, and unfortunately 13 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: that is what it appears happened to name them. 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Who are the big name even if you're not following 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: the Olympics. Lindsay Vaughn, Chloe Kim, Mikayla Schiffrin, Quad God, 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: Now those are the everybody can name that. There are 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: other big stars I'm not taking away from but these 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: are the names that you would ever get close to 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: household in those names, bro the Lindsay Vaughan, Nobody was 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: expecting her to win goal. We've known her for a 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: long time, but we were just impressed by what she 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: was doing. This kid was your Simone Biles. He steps 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: out there, the expectation is he's going. 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: To win exactly, and you know, we refer to him 25 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: as the quad God because it's easy. And his name 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: might be not a household name yet, but the point 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: was that after this Olympics it would be. Obviously in 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: the figure skating community he is a household name. But 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: for a lot of us who are now just kind 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: of getting up to date on the new US Olympic 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: athletes who then become household names, this kid, Iliam Allenan 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: was about to become that person. 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: So he was going to be something beyond the quad God. 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: He was gonna he had a moniker and he was 35 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: going to have a household name. 36 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: But he has it now for the wrong reason. You all, 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: this was hard to watch. This wasn't defeat. This was 38 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: watching someone have a complete meltdown on the most important 39 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: and the biggest stage possible Robes start to finish. This 40 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: was a collapse of epic historic proportion. And all you 41 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: can say, Robes is you got to remember these dudes 42 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: are human beings. 43 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: Yes, the agony of defeat. They talk about it every Olympics. 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: It occurs. Unfortunately, you don't know who it's going to 45 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: happen to. But the pressure is something that most of 46 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: us mere mortals cannot even fathom. With the war, when 47 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: people say the world is watching, literally the world is watching. 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: And he had just come off of this pretty big high. 49 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: He was called up and called in to essentially booy 50 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: up the team event, and he did it. He performed, 51 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: He did eas exactly what he was supposed to do, 52 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: what he is known for, and he brought the team 53 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: Team USA to a gold medal victory. 54 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 3: So he is coming off that high. 55 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was several days ago. That was the one 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: he wasn't even supposed to. 57 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: Do, and he didn't want to do it because he 58 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: wanted to focus on his competition. He wanted to be 59 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: able to concentrate and he didn't want to take away 60 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: from But you know what then he said, huh hell yeah, 61 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: I just. 62 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: Brought it home. 63 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: We just won gold. Best decision I ever made. Who 64 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: knows now, as he reflects back, if that led in 65 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: any way to what we saw on the ice from 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: him in his performance, in his marquee performance that we 67 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: were then expecting. 68 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: Yes, this is the moment that he was supposed to 69 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: win gold. 70 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: We will get into why performing in the team event 71 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: might have messed with his head a little bit in 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: just a second. But Iliam Malinin performed yesterday. This was 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: the second of two routines that were part of the 74 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: individual male figure skating gold medal competition. But he is 75 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: performing in the fine yesterday. He didn't just not win gold, 76 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: he didn't win a medal at all. He finished eighth 77 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: in a performance that shocked the Olympics. He fell twice 78 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: in his jumps, so his butt was on the ice 79 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: at least two times, and then on another two jumps 80 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: he just bailed on them. So this is the guy 81 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: who has seven quad jumps. Four of them were total 82 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: disasters last night. Didn't complete two and the other he 83 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: was on his ass. Robes we got were of course, 84 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: we watched during the day, sometimes certainly early morning because 85 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: of the time difference. We were out yesterday and we 86 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: were keeping up and we saw the headline of what happened, 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: and then we came that got settled, teed it up 88 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: so we could watched the performance. It's devastating. 89 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: It's so hard to watch and to listen to the commentators. 90 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: I mean, there was just silence for a long time. 91 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: They didn't know what to say. They were genuinely shocked. 92 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: They said, this young man, he's twenty one years old, right, 93 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: Iliam Allen, and he does not do this. He doesn't 94 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: even fall once, let alone twice. He doesn't not go 95 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: for his quad jumps. And he did a single I believe, 96 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: when he was supposed to do a quad, and then 97 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: he did a double when he was supposed to do 98 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: a quad. So they were they were stricken, the commentators. 99 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: There was silence in the ice rink. It was just devastating, 100 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: and he felt that the energy was just completely shifted. 101 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: And they said this and we know this if this 102 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: is just something that this isn't a physical, this wasn't 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: about something he couldn't do. 104 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: This was all in his head. This was completely in total, 105 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: totally mental. 106 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: And it happens, and it happened in the worst possible 107 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: time for this kid. We tried, we try to give 108 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: some perspective to what we were seeing. And I meant 109 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: to go look at Vegas odds and I didn't see 110 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: but he would have been the oldwhelming favorites. Yes, but 111 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: here's the thing, folks, this is a dude who has 112 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: not lost a competition in two years. In fourteen straight 113 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: competitions he has come out on top. Among those were 114 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: two World championships. You all, he has been the best 115 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: figure skater against these same dudes in the world for 116 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: two straight years. And also he's the four time US 117 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: national champion. This dude does not lose. And you know 118 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: what happened, Robes, when he's finally going to officially be 119 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: anointed put the crown on his head as you put 120 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: the gold medal around his neck. Yesterday was the worst 121 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: performance he has put up the worst score in four years. 122 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: Wow, he's scored two hundred and ninety one point five 123 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: eight worst score in four years. 124 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: That's mental, Robes. 125 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Yes, you have not lost a competition 126 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: in two years. That means he had fourteen straight competitions 127 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: where he came out on top number one, fourteen in 128 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: a row. Look, all streaks are eventually broken, but to 129 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: have it broken at the Olympics when you are skating. 130 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: For gold worst possible scenario. 131 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: Losing is one thing, Underperforming is one thing. This is 132 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: not what This was, folks. This was a complete meltdown 133 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: by this kid. And I'm not saying that to be offensive. 134 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: A heart on him. Our hearts were breaking way even 135 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: if we knew the result. I said to you as 136 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: we were watching, I kind of wish we didn't know 137 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: what was coming, because it made it worse. 138 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: It did. 139 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: We were waiting for you know when you say it's 140 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: like watching a train accident, Like we knew what was coming, 141 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: and so I was. I think I was like squinting 142 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: my eyes. I didn't really want to see. And the 143 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: pain on his face when he finished and did he 144 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: hit his head, he was just he was so so devastated, 145 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: understandably so, but that was just so hard to watch 146 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: these kids skate their hearts out, the training, the work, 147 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: all of this leading up to this one performance. 148 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: It's too much. It became too much. Who's in the crowd, 149 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: Simone Biles, right, that's a big deal. Nathan Chen, former 150 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: gold medalist for the US is the last Olympics. He's 151 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: in the crowd. This was the moment. This was who's 152 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: the darling? You still say the gymnastics Nadia Komenich, No, 153 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: the one from the US that was on the Whaedi's 154 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 1: box that I can't way. Mary Luke red, Yes, he 155 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: was about to be that darling you cannot get in 156 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: the Olympics. Right in the Summer Games, whatever woman wins 157 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: the all around is our darling. Yes, in gymnastics, and 158 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: then in the Winter Games, the woman who wins the 159 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: figure skating and the man who wins the figure skates 160 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: carry those are your big marquee events like one hundred 161 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: meters dash almost this is it like. 162 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: This, like Michael Thorps, like there are certain people in 163 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: certain events. 164 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: He was about to be it Robes, this was everything 165 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: and that was just too much pressure. Now some of 166 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: his comments, will talk about his performance, will give you 167 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: the comments about his performance, and then we'll tell you 168 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: about this hot mike moment. And when we all heard 169 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: and it was pretty clear immediately, oh he's pissed about 170 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: something and the anger and emotion was coming out. But 171 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: roab some of his statements here he seems as clueless 172 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: as the rest of us as to what happened. 173 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: Yes, here is what he said afterwards after the performance. 174 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: He said, honestly, I still haven't been able to process 175 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: what just happened going into this competition. I felt really 176 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: good this whole day, feeling really solid. I just thought 177 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: that all I needed to do was trust the process 178 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: that I've always been doing. You know, it's so true, Like, look, 179 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: the only small amount of like just a little bit 180 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: of pressure that we understand. When you are about to 181 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: run a marathon, you're nervous, you don't know what your 182 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: body's going to do, you don't know what the weather's 183 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 2: going to be like, you don't know what the crowd's 184 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: going to feel like. But you tell yourself, and this 185 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: is what everyone tells you. Trust the training. Trust the training. 186 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: Your body knows what to do. You're going to be okay. 187 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: Don't let your nerves take over. So it sounded like 188 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: that's where his headspace was. 189 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: You stay in routine. We've been around a lot of athletes. 190 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: They do not mess around with their routine. You stay 191 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: in a certain pattern. I practice this, this time, I 192 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: eat it this time. This is what I eat, and 193 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: then this is what I listened to, he said, and 194 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: explaining I did everything the way I always do it. 195 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: Why would I change anything now exactly? 196 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: He went on to say, but it's not like any 197 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: other competition. It's the Olympics. 198 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: I respect that. 199 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: I do too. I do too, he said. 200 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: I think people don't realize the pressure and the nerves 201 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: that actually happened from the inside. So it was really 202 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: just something that overwhelmed me. And I just felt like 203 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 2: I had no control. 204 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: That's honest, you know. 205 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: I think look in small versions of that. I think 206 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: everyone knows what that feels like. It all of a sudden, 207 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: you realize people are watching or somehow you just get 208 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: outside of your head and you start panicking. You start 209 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 2: feeling the pressure, you start thinking what if I do something, 210 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: and your brain just starts to completely spiral. 211 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: And it looks like that's what happened. 212 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: And he's acknowledging that that's what happened. That's you don't 213 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: often hear that the pressure got to me. It's the Olympics. 214 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: There's the big stage. You mess with me, You don't 215 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: hear just that open type of honest statement. I appreciated that. 216 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, I felt like, this is what I 217 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: wanted to do, this is what we planned, this is 218 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: what we practiced, and really just needed to go out 219 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: there and do what I always do. That did not happen. 220 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: And I don't know why. Something felt off and I 221 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: don't know what it was specifically. I'm still trying to 222 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: understand what that was. Look he is doing, he is 223 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: com competing with with Uh, I'm trying it's not tricks. 224 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: What are they called with his act? Like just his 225 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 2: what he does with the pup. 226 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: The only one that does a quad axcelling competition who 227 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: has landed that thing. 228 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: Well, I was trying to like, they're not They're not 229 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 2: called tricks, they're not called feats. Whatever it is, the 230 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: disciplines there, I'm listening the word of just what it 231 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: what it is to do a quad. But some of 232 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: what he does on the ice was considered so dangerous 233 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: it was not allowed. 234 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: So you think about just. 235 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: Not wanting to fall, or wanting to perform your best 236 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: or wanted to perform flawlessly, but you're also risking injury. 237 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: You're risking life and limb with some of these that 238 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: he's doing. Sometimes he does a flip where he lands 239 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: on one leg. He does these quads that most people 240 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: cannot do. So the fear of failure isn't just about 241 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 2: not getting a gold, it's about massive injury as well. 242 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: Dum, you put me back into that right mindset of 243 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: remembering and This is probably the best comparison, and people 244 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: understand this perspective someone Biles being to start for a 245 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: long time. It's not that she's outperforming people because they're 246 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: all doing the same tricks and she does them better. 247 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: She's doing shit nobody else can do. He is that 248 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: guy in ice skating. He is doing things and that's 249 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: why his level of difficulty is so far ahead, and 250 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: he's so far ahead of competition. Nobody else is even 251 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: attempting the things he's doing, like some more Biles. She 252 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: was the one that made the comment twisting around doing 253 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: all that. She said, I'll never do that on ice. 254 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: She recognizes how crazy it is what they're doing. 255 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: And you bring up some Biles. Let's just remember she 256 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: got what she referred to as the twist. 257 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: You said twists. 258 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: She had a very similar situation mentally when she was 259 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: performing and she. 260 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: Had to take a step back. 261 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: See I had never heard I wasn't that familiar with 262 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: the twists. Of course she was in the gymnastics world. 263 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: You knew there's better than I did. She at that point, 264 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: what was that twenty twenty right? She had? How decorated 265 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: of an olympian? Was she at that point? We never 266 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: looked at Simone Biles and thought, man, this pressure, she 267 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: can't handle it. We never looked at her we learned, 268 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: oh wow, there is a thing that happens that your 269 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: mind and your body get out of right harmony and 270 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: you could absolutely do all kinds of damage to yourself 271 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: in gymnastics. Yes, do they consider I don't think so. 272 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: Do they consider that a mental block in where the 273 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: pressure's getting to you? I heard that or thought that 274 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: is something that a fluke freak thing that happens that 275 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: can happen if you are in your gym training, can 276 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: happen in the Olympics, It can happen at a small 277 00:13:58,920 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: regional meet. 278 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: Ye. 279 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: How does is that considered like a mental The pressure 280 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: is getting to you? 281 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 2: Absolutely because what happened, like the point being, is what 282 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: they are doing. 283 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: It isn't about winning or losing. 284 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: It's about if I mess up, I could be paralyzed 285 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: for the rest of my life. 286 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: I could die. 287 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: I mean literally that sounds dramatic, but the types of 288 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: moves these athletes are making is absolutely dangerous. And this 289 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: is why they have the scores they have because they're 290 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: getting points no one else is getting because no one 291 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: has the guts to even attempt some of these moves. 292 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: So that is I feel like Simone Biles is a 293 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: really good example of what Ilian was going through and 294 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: what she went through and talked about and had to 295 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: actually go and get help to get her head straight 296 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: before she could come back. I mean, Jordan Childs won 297 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: the gold because Simone Biles had to take a step back. 298 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: Look this kid, man, he he's got away four years. 299 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: He's got a wait four years for another shot like this. 300 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: But stay with us here, folks. There was a moment 301 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: that everyone has been talking about. It happened almost immediately 302 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: after he competition. It was clear he was emotional, but 303 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: some of that emotion was anger at his own US 304 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: team will explain the hot mic moments to hear all right, 305 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: continuing here on this Saturday, February fourteenth, going over what 306 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: will be talked about for years and years and years, 307 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: the absolute breakdown by one of the biggest stars at 308 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: the Olympics, Ilia malinin the quad God failed to even metal. 309 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: Was widely considered the overwhelming favorite to take the gold 310 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: and maybe even easily, but fell twice on the ice 311 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: in his final routine, didn't complete a couple of other 312 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: jumps and just had a melt down. But robes right 313 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: after right, you see pain, you see agony. As soon 314 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: as he finished, I think he put his hands in 315 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: his head and his face in his hands. But he 316 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: goes and sits down, waiting on his score. He's talking 317 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: and he got mad, like it was emotion and a 318 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: little anger. But he started talking about the US team 319 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: and started talking about Beijing. And for a lot of 320 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: people who had been following or wondering what the hell 321 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: he's talking about, there's some context here. 322 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: Yes, he's this is what he said. 323 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: I don't He obviously did not realize that the cameras 324 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: were there and that this was going to be heard 325 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: by everyone. But he said, I told them to send 326 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: me to Beijing, and then I wouldn't have skated like that. 327 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: They all think it's easy. 328 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: It's not easy, and so you wonder what is he 329 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: I said. Immediately we turned to like, oh, he's mad 330 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: about something. In that moment, he just had the worst 331 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: moment of his professional career. He got mad and went 332 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: back another four years to Beijing. I didn't realize he 333 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: was seventeen at the time, finished second at the US Nationals. 334 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: That's good enough to make the Olympic team. The federation 335 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: made the decision, Yeah, you got second at Nationals and 336 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: that's good enough, but we're going to take these other 337 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: two more experienced skaters to the Olympics who finish behind you. 338 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: So he gets dumped after performing well enough to make 339 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: the Olympic team. Those other two guys did not get medals, 340 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: by the way, we should mention. But rodes his mind 341 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: in that moment was I didn't know about Olympic pressure. 342 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: If you all let me go get an experience and 343 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: be under Nathan Chen and watch him in that whole thing, 344 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: maybe I could have meddled, But I also would have 345 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: gotten the experience necessary to nail this moment. And he 346 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: was pissed at them for that decision. In that moment. 347 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: Well, look, I think there are a couple of things 348 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: at play, and I understand where his head went and 349 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 2: where his heart was because the moment that happens, you 350 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: want to blame something, You want to blame someone, You 351 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 2: want to say they did this. It's not my fault 352 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: is it is a human experience and reaction to try 353 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: and blame someone else. 354 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: That is what your ego does to protect yourself. 355 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: From a devastating moment you say it's your fault, it's 356 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: not mine. However, he does have a good point, because 357 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: imagine if he had gone at seventeen with the skill 358 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: set he has, without the pressure of being called the 359 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: quad god. 360 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: He's the guy who's going to bring the gold. 361 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: If you're underneath someone like Nathan Chen, you can actually 362 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: go to the Olympics, get the experience, but not feel 363 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 2: all the pressure at your very first damn Olympics when 364 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 2: you're still just twenty one years old, maybe even at seventeen. Look, 365 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,239 Speaker 2: gymnasts go early, because when you're younger, you might not 366 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: even realize as much, really truly the danger you're putting 367 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: your body. 368 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 3: In, but you might not even recognize the pressure as much. 369 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: The older you get, the more you realize how fragile 370 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: your body is, how fragile life is, how finicky or 371 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: fickle fandom, stardom is. Like all of that, it starts 372 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: to weigh on you in a way that maybe you 373 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 2: wouldn't have even considered when you're younger. 374 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: So I do think he makes a good point. 375 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 2: But it was so interesting to see what the human 376 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: mind does in a moment of desperation and despair and devastation. 377 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: You want to blame someone else, Think. 378 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: Hey, in the moments after that was a meeting. I 379 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: mean that was a minute I think after he finished 380 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: that horrible routine. But with perspective, and he'll calm down, 381 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: he'll settle down, he might even come out and apologize. 382 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: And by the way, he was very gracious to the winners. 383 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: So he was a good sportsman in all this. But 384 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: rot he I think he said later on about it. 385 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, but if I had gone to the Olympics, 386 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: who knows what my journey would have been and where 387 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: my life would have gone and whatever else. All these 388 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: things just happen like this. He can't. Obviously, it's not 389 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: Team USA's fault for not picking him all those years ago. 390 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: It's just they made the best decision they could make 391 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: at the time that they thought would put them in 392 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: a position to get a gold, silver, bronze medal in 393 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Let's make sure we don't put ourselves 394 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: in a best position now, so we can put ourselves 395 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: in the best position four years from now, so we 396 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: can have this kid's head right. And that I don't know, 397 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: but Bro's he knows. With perspective, it's not their fault 398 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: that this happened. Now, I gotta be with he got second, 399 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: put him on the damn team like. 400 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he did too, and that would 401 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 2: like it should be who's the best, not who you 402 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: think might perform better. 403 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I know they take all this into consideration. 404 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: I will also say this, I'm sure this doesn't feel 405 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: great because, yes, the Olympics. It's not like in any 406 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: other sport where you can say, oh, my next game, 407 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: I'll do better, or next season, I'll do better. Nat 408 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: you gotta wait, and I know there are other competitions 409 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: and all of that, but you have to wait four 410 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 2: more years for another shot at the Olympics. And yes, 411 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 2: he'll only be twenty five. Yes he should be able 412 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 2: to perhaps even be better than he is now. However, 413 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: you could have injuries, you could have issues. There's all 414 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: sorts of things that can happen between now and four 415 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: years from now, and that has to be a daunting 416 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: feeling to know I don't get to try again at 417 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: this stage, at this level for another four years. 418 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: Imagine that pressure and seeing him skate in four years 419 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: and what's going to be on him the last thing, 420 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: we'll mention here, Robes, And we said it at the time. 421 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: It seems like it was several days. I think it 422 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: was earlier this week the team competition. Ilia was not 423 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: going to be with his team for the team competition. 424 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: They called him now up the night before, Robes, because 425 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: the things were so tight in scores. They say, hey, 426 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: we are not going to win this thing unless you compete. 427 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: He decides to compete. Scores well, team USA gets gold. 428 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: We said at the time, Robes, whatever happens in the individual, 429 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: this has got to be the most valuable gold medal 430 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: to him, even if he gets the individual. Like what 431 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: he did to come save his team. Here's the problem, Robes. 432 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: In that competition, as well as he did, a Japanese 433 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: skater scored higher than he did. Now, he did good 434 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: enough to put his team over the top, but he 435 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: had in his head there is another skater out here 436 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: who actually just beat me in the team competition, even 437 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: though my team won. They talked about how he's looking 438 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: around now and that set him up for oh shit, 439 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: somebody's on my heels in a mindset that maybe he 440 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: would not have had going into the individual. Who knows, 441 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: but that was a he got outperformed. Somebody beat him 442 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: already score wise, and. 443 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: You can understand how that would mess with your head. 444 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: If you've been told you're the best in the world, 445 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: you're the two time reigning world champion, you're the quad god. 446 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: Nobody can come close to you, and all of a 447 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: sudden someone beats your score and now you go into 448 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: that competition knowing you're going head to head with that 449 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: person that scater. 450 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: I overlooked it because I didn't think about that either, 451 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: celebrating Hey, he helped them win. He knew better he was. 452 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: He had a look on his face and we're like, wait, 453 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: you just saved your team. Why are you looking at one? Oh? Yeah, 454 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: he knew what was coming. 455 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: I didn't. 456 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that at all. But now that makes 457 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: a lot of sense. 458 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: We are rooting for this kid harder than you will 459 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: ever believe. Now, worlds, he's gonna get up off that ice, 460 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: literally and figuratively, and really he's gonna be okay because 461 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: he's too talented not to be. But he's young. 462 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 3: He's young, twenty one, he's a baby. 463 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, what test did you fail? At twenty one? And 464 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: he did this in front of everybody, This is nothing 465 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: short of a failure, and that's okay, and that's what 466 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: life is. And sometimes they're on bigger stages and this 467 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: was the absolute biggest yes. 468 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: And as we know, when you live enough life. 469 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: I don't know what it's like to be an Olympian, obviously, 470 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: but I do know that it is through those times 471 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 2: when you fail and you fall and you have to 472 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 2: pick yourself back up, that is when you become a 473 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: better human and hopefully even a better athlete and certainly 474 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: a better teammate. 475 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: You just get this perspective. 476 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: If you're always winning, and he has been somebody who 477 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: has always won, sometimes you have to lose. Sometimes you 478 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: have to fall to find out what you're really made of. 479 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: And with that, everyone, we appreciate you as always listening 480 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: to us. Hope you're watching the Olympics like we are, 481 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: but will of course be following all the major headlines 482 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: for you. Thank you, Hope you have a wonderful Saturday today. 483 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: I'm Amy Robach alongside t. J. Holmes, and we will 484 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: talk to you very soon