1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody? 2 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 2: Welcome into a Monday edition of Texas All Access from 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: the Hyundai Texans Radio studio. John Harrison, Mark Vandermir. I 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 2: won't say fresh off the field. It's now been a 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: few hours since we've been off the field, a sweltering 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Monday lunchtime ish time off the field. But man, one 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: another great day at training camp practice. We will break 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: all that down for you a little later. We will 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: go through a defensive line position. We did a defensive 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: line breakdown this morning, so we'll have that for you. 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: And then there's plenty of news going around the league, 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: including in Green Bay where the love isn't quite there 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: for love just yet. You'll find out what I'm talking about. 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: But Mark, it was day four at training camp. A 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: couple of things. Number one, no rain, hot use of 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: those things, no pads, but all that changes on Tuesday. Fans, pads, juice, energy, 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: can't wait. 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: But we still got to get through Monday's practice. What'd 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: you think? 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 4: For those listening saying, well, wait a minute, it rained 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: like dogs and cats today and other animals as well. 23 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: Yeah later, yeah later. Yeah, it was a typical Houston. 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 4: You never know what to expect kind of day, although 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 4: in the summer, usually, Johnny, we wouldn't get this kind 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 4: of stuff, but it happened this morning. Not a cloud 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: in the sky, all right, and then you get a 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: few clouds, which was nice during summer practice, but it 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 4: was it was a cooker. 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: Today at Texans training Camp, day four. 31 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: And then when we got inside it was raining sideways 32 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 4: for a while. 33 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: It was crazy. So there was a lot of that 34 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: kind of stuff going on. 35 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 4: But anyway, I thought, and look, I have not read 36 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 4: full disclosure. I have not read Harris Hips yet, but 37 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: I'm betting, but I know you will. 38 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I will. I always do. 39 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: I'm betting that you mentioned something about the defense having 40 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 4: quite a day. Defense had a day, and defense they 41 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: were getting after a big and I'm going to give 42 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 4: you some. 43 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: Off the record type stuff you ready for? 44 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: Oh wow? 45 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 4: So I was walking in with some defensive players and 46 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: I said something about, well, you guys had a day today, 47 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: you know, gee gollye g wiz. You know, just trying 48 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 4: trying to fit in, Johnny best I can. 49 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: Now. 50 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: These guys are. 51 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 4: Wonderful people, and they were talking amongst themselves, but they 52 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: knew I was there, and they were like, oh, it's 53 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 4: coming tomorrow though in pads play action, you know, the CJ. 54 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: Stroud Show will be in full display in front of 55 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: the fans, so we'll see. It'll be a nice battle. 56 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 4: It's great that they have this competition. You know, we 57 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: talk about it, the iron sharpens eye and everybody, I 58 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: don't want to say everybody gets tired of it. I 59 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 4: hope you don't get tired of it because it makes 60 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: your team better. And it's odd day to day who 61 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 4: wins the day. I don't know how they privately keep 62 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 4: this quantitatively, but you know they do. 63 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: You know they do. 64 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 4: We got you today, you get us tomorrow, you get 65 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: us in the next day. Whatever the situation is. There's 66 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: a great competition going on. 67 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: It's fantastic competition going on. And Bobby Slowick was up 68 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: the sideline kind of in my my path of watching practice, 69 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: and I just got my eye assume as the offense 70 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 2: was struggling a little bit, and I could just see 71 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: I could just you get to where you've been around 72 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: the guys enough that you just all you have to 73 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: do is get a look see and go, oh, yeah 74 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: he's not happy. Yeah, I mean you you just know Okay, 75 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: he's not real happy with what's been going on. But again, 76 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: you're talking about a defense that has got Daniel Hunter, 77 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: He's got Will Anderson in the back end. It's got 78 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: Derek Stingley, junior rookie Kamari last yer. I thought it 79 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: was pretty interesting with Stefan Diggs had to stay about 80 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: about Kamari. He said he might be ready. He could 81 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: be ready right now. He isn't scared. I mean, I 82 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: just thought, what what Stefan Diggs had to stay about 83 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: Kamari last year is maybe telling you something about. 84 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: The entire defense. 85 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: He made a play downfield. 86 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, go ahead. 87 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: He made a play downfield where I was talking to 88 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 4: Seth about it from the sideline and we were trying 89 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: to decide, Wait, was that a PBu or you know, 90 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: past break up pass defense or was it a ball 91 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: that wasn't thrown in the right spot. 92 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: I think the ball was thrown in the right spot. 93 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 4: I think he just kind of jammed Stefan Diggs, but 94 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 4: it was right in front of the official. 95 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, and no flag. They're throwing flags here. 96 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: They have no shyness about throwing the penalty markers and 97 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: they're here every day. And that's a great thing for 98 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 4: this team because there's no debate would that have been 99 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 4: a flag or not. Now, I know some officials might 100 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 4: not throw it in a real situation or whatever, but 101 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: they're throwing flags. 102 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's going to help you get better as well. 103 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 4: I can't do that, or I can get away with 104 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: this maybe or whatever. 105 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: But last and it remained a nice play. 106 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 107 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: In fact, I put that into Harris Hits because in 108 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: that very same play it was kind of cool because 109 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: I could see the rush and then I was able 110 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: to get my eyes because the ball was in front 111 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: of me. So I was actually able to see two 112 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: different things. And it happened on back to back plays. 113 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: And Danil Hunter is a is a real one, my god. 114 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: So the first play of the team period, he was 115 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: out at the right defensive end spot. It so happened 116 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: that today Daniel was in my on our on our 117 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: sideline most of the time Will was, and Will was 118 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: on the other side. So I just that's why I 119 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: talked about Daniel Hunter as much as I did. But 120 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: Danil on the first rep starts and it looks like 121 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: he's gonna go right through the tackle and then all 122 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: of a sudden and he just zips inside like it's nothing, 123 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: and I'm like, whoa. Then the next play after he's 124 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: done that, now he did that so quickly the ball 125 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: would have not gotten off, but CJ was throwing the 126 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: ball the other way, so Danil pulled up, strapped through 127 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: its completion. 128 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: Easy completion. 129 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: But had that been a real game, I think Danille 130 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: at least gets I mean, that's that's one of those 131 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: strips sacked scoop and score pick, you know, picked scoop 132 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: and score for six kind of thing. The very next 133 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: play after winning inside, now Danielle starts like he's going 134 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: inside and then he drops that that Van Miller ghost 135 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: move where you just drop that shoulder, you just disappear, 136 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: pop right back up and was right there again for Strout. 137 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: It was on that that second rep that CJ ended 138 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: up throwing it down the digs and Kamari Lasser was 139 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: in great position. 140 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: The ball fell in complete. 141 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: But watching daniel Hunter work his moves and just work 142 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: his Daneil Hunter. 143 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: Nos was it was so cool because he's so good. 144 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: It is. 145 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: It's making Blake Fisher have to work his butt off 146 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: over at left tackle because Laramie is ramping his self up, 147 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: himself up to get ready and get back on the field. 148 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: But he's not there yet. 149 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: So Blake Fisher has been taking a lot of those 150 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: reps to left tackle, so he seeing the best in football. 151 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: This guy is an absolute terror rushing the quarterback. 152 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 4: Well, we got to get those five fingers in the glove, 153 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 4: the five offensive linemen out there at some point and 154 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: get them acclimated to each other, get them playing like 155 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: a great unit, because you're right, the D line is 156 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: blowing some stuff up. Obviously, Will Anderson. I'll give you 157 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: another one who I know you noticed today. Again, I 158 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 4: didn't Harris hits yet, but Deniko Autry is what did 159 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: Nick Cassario call him a bad mferm? 160 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? He is, man. He is a tough customer. 161 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: There was a batted ball and he dove for it 162 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: like the super Bowl was on the line. 163 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, whoa this is? 164 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: We have seven weeks to go, man, But he's got 165 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: that intensity and you know, Dimiko's gotta love this. And 166 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: you mentioned Slowik over there calling plays and seeing his 167 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: body language when something doesn't work. 168 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: He's he's not. 169 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: Totally Spock like. 170 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: He's good at getting the emotion out of it because 171 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: he knows it's all about the next play. But you 172 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 4: could tell the defense did make some plays today and 173 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: the offense will have their days too. I'm not worried 174 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 4: about this. I think it's awesome. I think it's great. 175 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: Turn it up on defense, make this offense as good 176 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: as they can possibly be now in pads tomorrow, that 177 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: online D line battle is going to be even more 178 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: interesting and you're gonna learn much more about the D 179 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: line what they're doing. If Demico throws blitzes at them. 180 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: But he wants full intensity, he wants to full throttle 181 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 4: on the defensive side. 182 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's no question. 183 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: And some of the defensive linemen I mentioned to Neil Hunter, 184 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: I did watch Will for one. 185 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: There's always a. 186 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: Way that Will gets my attention, even if he's on 187 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: the opposite side. If I can see kind of through 188 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: the opposite side and I could see him kind of 189 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: twitching and he does that, he gets in that four 190 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: point stance and he starts twitching and I'm like, okay, 191 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: and so he needs to tell he burst off the 192 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: football and it looked like he was just gonna go 193 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: speed to power, just you know, bull rush. And also 194 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: at the last second as he goes to he gets 195 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: to tackle like it's gonna be a bull rush, and 196 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 2: then he just slid inside like it was easy, just 197 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: kind of arm over and just right to the quarterback. 198 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: I think CJ was in at that point, and I mean, 199 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: it's CJ. Can't get really get the ball off. He's 200 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: in there so quick, and I'm like, man, But a 201 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: couple of guys that really stood out to me were 202 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: on the interior McTelvin Agene. 203 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: Okay, Seth mentioned him too. Yeah, he had he had 204 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 4: one or two really good rushes. 205 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: Yes, a couple of really good rushes batted down a pass, 206 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: But it's how quick he does things. I mentioned him 207 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: a couple of days ago because and I think we 208 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: talked about this on radio today when were breaking down 209 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: to d line and I'll you'll have this audio. But 210 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: he ran down Jir Jordan caught a swing pass out 211 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: on the left side, and so Jordan is running up 212 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: the left side and everybody kind of got sucked into 213 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: everything going the other way. 214 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: So it really wasn't a whole lot of people there. 215 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: There's one guy coming over, maybe a linebacker, and a 216 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: linebacker madejuar slow down a little bit. But so so 217 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: is just flying thirty five yards down a field on 218 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: a full sprint and just you know you're tackling buddy, 219 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: but you tag off the hip. He tags off on 220 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: Juwar Jordan thirty five yards down a field. I thought, okay, 221 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: you got my attention now. Now I've always had my 222 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 2: attention on him. I always started Arkansas. He I've always 223 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 2: started a really good player. Just he was kind of 224 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: underrated and he's undersized, but I think he's added weight. 225 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: He's up in the two ninety range now. He was 226 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: so quick. 227 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: There were There's one time when I have my eyes 228 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: on him, guard tried to quick set him, which essentially 229 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: is you know guards, you know pass protection when you 230 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: kind of give ground right well, sometimes what guards like 231 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: to do in particular is stunt the rush and so 232 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: they quick set. So they just popped. They popped the 233 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: defensive lineman like right away. And Quentin Nelson can do 234 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: this really well, it's Quentin Nelson. I mean he does it. 235 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: You like, you get jarred and you get slowed down, 236 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: so you really want to slow down into your defensive lineman. 237 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: You use that quick set. So this guard who I 238 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: can't remember who was guard, tried to quick set Sosa 239 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: mctevin agen and he just just threw hands one hand there, 240 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: one hand underneath, and he was gone. And it was like, WHOA, 241 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: that's wow. And those are the guys that we're gonna 242 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: have our eyes on the preseason. 243 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: Yep. AND's those kind of guys. 244 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 4: You won't automatically pencil him in onto the fifty three, 245 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: there's no way. So he's gonna have to really show 246 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 4: out and then maybe hope for injuries or whatever else 247 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 4: or beat some people out. But that that is definitely 248 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 4: somebody worth watching. I'll give you another one. And I 249 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 4: know you noticed this today, Jacob Phillips not going down today, 250 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: and I thought, all right, I haven't seen every stitch 251 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: of video there is on him in this camp. 252 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 3: But that is a guy that we've talked about in 253 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: the offseason. 254 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 4: If you want a role model, or at least in 255 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 4: our eyes, a model to follow, would be Blake Cashman, 256 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 4: a player who had a lot of injuries injury issues, 257 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 4: comes here stays healthy. Finally, for the most part, he 258 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 4: still wasn't completely one hundred percent healthy last year, but 259 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 4: healthy enough where he got the contract with Minnesota, where 260 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 4: he's from and for Phillips, he's looking for something similar there. 261 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 4: He's looking to stay healthy, make a lot of plays. 262 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: Who knows what happens with injuries at linebacker, But physically 263 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 4: he looks really good, Johnny. He looks like an incredible athlete. 264 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: You know, he was at LSU Cleveland Browns and now 265 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 4: he's trying to. 266 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: Do it here. 267 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: But he had a player too today that was eye 268 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: popping and we'll see how it goes with him. 269 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely the one other player defensively just happened to be 270 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: a deal. 271 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: I'man it's the same guy we saw last year. I 272 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: think he's just getting better and better. That's Khalil Davis. 273 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: Khalil ran down a screen from behind away from us. 274 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: He was on that side, but he started his rush 275 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: red screen and he's tagging off on the running back 276 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: maybe one yard deep, maybe at the line of scrimmage, 277 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: but I mean that play doesn't go anywhere because it's 278 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: getting held up and we've got We used to say 279 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: this for my first ten lessure is my tenth year. 280 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: First nine years, we ran screens, no offense. We stunk 281 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: like every time we ran a screen, couldn't get it 282 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: to go. Like during a break you, me and Dre 283 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: would yell each other, like why we run a screens. 284 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: We've gotten much much better running screens, much much better. 285 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: But this one Khalil Davis blew up and then there 286 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: was a toss away from him, a toss run play 287 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: away from him. He got through the backfield in a 288 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: snap and ran it thing down from behind to a 289 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: point where by the time he got to the running back, 290 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: he literally had to pull up almost a stop, like 291 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: throwing the flintstone brakes. 292 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: The flintstones always there. 293 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: He almost had to stop like that so he didn't 294 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: just completely decapitate the running back. 295 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: He he even looks better than he was last year. 296 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 4: Who chased down Stover today when he was running one 297 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: out into the end zone. It was about a seventy 298 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 4: yard run and I don't know if he would have 299 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: been caught or not earlier, but he was finishing out 300 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: the run and somebody went all the way downfield with him, 301 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: a big guy. 302 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: I can't remember who it was. 303 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: It might have been. It might have been fifty eight, 304 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: It might have been so Soid. It might have been Mtown, 305 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 2: might have been. He's done that a few times. He 306 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: can he can really run I'll give you another guy 307 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: in the secondary that he's hard to miss. First of all, 308 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: because he's taller than everybody else. He's also lankier than 309 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: everybody else. He had his hands on a pick today 310 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: and that's Kaylen Bullet couldn't come down with it, and 311 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: I mean he hits him right in hands, got it 312 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: and you gotta have it. But I'll say this mark 313 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: from a you think about all the things that go 314 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: into an interception. 315 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, number one reading the quarterbacks eyes. 316 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: Are you saying every interception as a story? 317 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm I'm kind of saying that in a sense, 318 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: I'm kind of saying that. But he makes a great read, 319 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: a great break on the ball, Transitional quickness, you know, 320 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: the ability to to move yourself forward is it's top notch. 321 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: He just dropped the ball. 322 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: And they've been a couple of those where the defense 323 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: is just they've had in their hands. If I got one, 324 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: Jeff Okudoff a tip pass at the end was kind. 325 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Of that was a good one. 326 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: Mike Ford got in that. Mike Ford was right there. 327 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: He and know browning up for it. Ball popped up. 328 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: Bike Ford self described playmaker. But I love him, I 329 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: love I love Mike, but Cale, I just don't know. 330 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how it how he gets on the 331 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: field with what's. 332 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: In front of him. 333 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: But I'm getting to a point where I've seen enough 334 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: from Kaylen Bullock the last few days to go there's 335 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: something here. This cat needs to be on the field. 336 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: We need to get him on that to develop him. 337 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: He's got to play, He's got to be on the field. 338 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: We've gotten that point with Kamara Lassiter. I think what 339 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: we saw in OTA's in mini camp has carried over 340 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: to the first week of training camp and look with 341 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: the pads on, but everything that you see out of 342 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: Kamara Lassiter makes you feel like, even when the pads 343 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: go on, he's still gonna be hip to hip with 344 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs. He's still gonna be competitive wherever the ball 345 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: is on the field. Kaylen Bullock has been around the football, 346 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: has made some really explosive breaks. 347 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: He's as athletic as it gets at that safety position. 348 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: Now again, for him, it's also when the pads go on, 349 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: because his tackling was not good last year, so that 350 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: obviously is something that needs work. But there's got to 351 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: be a way you get him on the field. Because 352 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: he has been around the football for the last four 353 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: days for sure. 354 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: Who are the biggest safeties the Texans have had? 355 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a big question. Red ed Reid was pretty 356 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: good size. Justin Reed, Oh, Justin Reed. Justin was six 357 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: one six two two ten. 358 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: He's good seast six one here, I pulled it up. 359 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: But Bo is bigger than that. 360 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 361 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: Glover, No, Glover was shorter. Yeah. Oh, I had to 362 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: my tongue. Quentin the guy. No, Uh, Pollard? What was 363 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: Bernard Pollard? 364 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,239 Speaker 3: Bernard Pollard. 365 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: I don't think he was six two six ' three, 366 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: but he was a good solid two fifteen. 367 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: Yeah he was. 368 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 4: Uh, they don't have his height here? 369 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: Come on, how do you not have his height here? 370 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: I'm pulling it up right now. 371 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 4: Bernard Pollard two thousand and nine Texans contributor, six' one 372 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 4: twenty five. 373 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was sick. That's thick. Yeah, that's that's good size. 374 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: That's good size. Okay, here's a question for you. Yeah, 375 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: who's the best safety in Texans history? 376 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 4: Okay, this is a position group where they haven't exactly 377 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 4: shined in a Pro Bowl sense. 378 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: All right, let's just be honest here. 379 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 4: There have been some good contributors like Clover, Daniel Manning, 380 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: Ed Reid did nothing. Manning did a lot, I did 381 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 4: a lot. But again, you're not dealing with multiple Pro 382 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 4: Bowls here. With Daniel Manning, as much as I love 383 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: him and love the contribution he made, and Justin Reied, 384 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 4: you got to throw him in the mix as well, 385 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: you know. I mean I love my early safeties too. 386 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 4: I'm not forgetting about you. Eric Brown. Did Marcus Coleman 387 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 4: shift over to shift over safety corner? 388 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: I think Marcus would be up there. 389 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: I mean, if you were to say, Okay, give me 390 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: the top three safeties in Texas history, I think Marcus 391 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: would probably have to go up there. Yeah, I would 392 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: imagine after that. I mean Justin Reid I think reads 393 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: one of them. 394 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: I think he's Yeah, I think you would have to be. 395 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 4: There have been single season outstanding performances like a Pollard, Manning's, 396 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 4: Quindemp's Coundemp Demp's single season. Yeah, absolutely, sixteen years incredible, 397 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: absolutely great contribution there. But again, yeah, you're not looking 398 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 4: at sustained excellence over a number of years with too 399 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: many of these guys. 400 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: Kind of odd for what do we now We're we're 401 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: able to drink as a franchise. We're over twenty one 402 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 2: years old, but happen to have a position that just 403 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: hasn't had Tyron Matthew was here yet, Tyres Ye, Tyro's 404 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: here for a year. I wish held staying longer. I 405 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: love ty Yeah, but Reid. I think Reid is certainly 406 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: one of them. And remember Reid winning season eighteen, winning 407 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: season nineteen twenty nine, So all right, well that was 408 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: it you got too. But he's now got two rings 409 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 2: with the Kansas City Chiefs, and I don't look forward 410 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: to playing him. He's he has played exceptional football with 411 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: the with Kansas City Chiefs, and I'm happy for him. 412 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: He was always a good guy, regardless of the whole 413 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: suspension for a game or whatever. 414 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: He was always a great. 415 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: Petrie had a hell of a rookie year, and obviously 416 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 4: the team wasn't good, but he had five picks looking good. 417 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: Last year didn't go quite as well in that department, 418 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: but I think Petree year three could be really interesting. 419 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 4: And then you have Jimmy Ward last year had a 420 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 4: really good season. When he was out there was always 421 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: healthy for you. So yeah, it's been a position group 422 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: that has not been incredibly fruitful. I mean, we just 423 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: named a bunch of guys, but you're only with twenty 424 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 4: two years of history. 425 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: You know who would have been that guy? 426 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: And I still I think they always wanted to get 427 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: him over there. 428 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 4: By the way, Eric Brown's gonna be pissed if I 429 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 4: don't mention him. No, he wouldn't, He's not that kind 430 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: of guy. But I am upset with myself because I 431 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 4: love Eric too, and he was part of a pretty 432 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: decent defense in the. 433 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think a guy that they every year, it 434 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: felt like they kept trying to move him over there 435 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: and then injured at corner that kept kare corner. 436 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson. Kareem Jackson would have been that safety. 437 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he would have. 438 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: I think he would have been that safety. 439 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 2: He was fearless, He obviously had cornerback cover skills, so 440 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 2: he would have been able to do. 441 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: If Kevin Johnson stays totally healthy, you got he and 442 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: J Joe on the outside, and Kareem moves to safety 443 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: earlier and you're able to reap the benefits of that. 444 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: Maybe he's still here. 445 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: Man at twenty sixteen defense, imagine the twenty sixteen defense 446 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: was good. 447 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: Was number one in the league. 448 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: But if Kevin stays healthy that year he was the 449 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: beginning of that year, he was on one. 450 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: He was he was top. 451 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: He locked up Colts receivers, and then you can put 452 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: Kareem at safety. That defense would have been even even better. 453 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: You and I could have quarterbacked that team. I think 454 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 2: about that. 455 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 4: I was thinking about that the other day in fifteen 456 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 4: when they had those two blowouts, yet they finished third 457 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 4: in the league. 458 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: They're that good. 459 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 4: They have the two monster blowouts with the second half 460 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 4: doesn't even matter. Oh, they suffer the hands of that, 461 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 4: and then they end up third in the league because 462 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: they win games ten to six, sixteen to ten. It 463 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 4: was ridiculous. Those are ridiculously low scores. 464 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: So we also had transaction. 465 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: We talked about one official I think during our Texas 466 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: training Camp live show. 467 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: The Texans did indeed sign cam Acres. 468 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: They waved injured Jared Wayne, which I always hate to 469 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: see guys waved injured. 470 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate. 471 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: But I had mentioned that I had first seen cam 472 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 2: Acres when he was a quarterback at Clinton High School 473 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 2: in Mississippi, and I remembered seeing highlights or like a 474 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: condensed version of the statechampionship game that he played in 475 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. And so I'm I'm in my office watching 476 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: this and I'm like, oh my god, But I didn't 477 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 2: remember the exact numbers. 478 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: I knew he was incredible that day. 479 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: His Clinton team wins the state championship forty nine to 480 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: thirty five. So you can do the math on forty 481 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 2: nine right, seven touchdowns? Well, cam Akers accounted for every 482 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: single one of them in that game. He ran the 483 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: ball thirty times for two hundred and seventeen yards and 484 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: five touchdowns. He had a long of sixty five. He 485 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: had a sixty five yard touchdown run. He then played quarterback, Yeah, 486 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: he was playing quarterback for him. He threw it twenty 487 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: five times, completed sixteen for two hundred and twenty eight 488 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: yards and two touchdowns. So seven touchdowns in the game, 489 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: seven touchdowns he accounted for in the game. Four hundred 490 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: and forty five yards throwing and rushing in the championship game. 491 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 4: For his career in high school, cam Akers throwing the 492 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 4: football here, he's only forty seven percent clip, but yeah, 493 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 4: he ends up at fifty seven. He throws for seventy 494 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 4: eight touchdowns and he rushes for seventy one, one hundred 495 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 4: and forty nine touchdowns scored in high school. 496 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: That's incredible, Holy cow. And now he's here. 497 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 4: He's got a lot of mileage, as you can tell, 498 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 4: a lot of mileage under that hood. 499 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: But we'll see if he could stay healthy. Do something here. 500 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: He's walking off the field and just I always do 501 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: that with your new players guys I've seen. 502 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: I've always known he's thick, but he's. 503 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: Got really long arms, but strong little bow leg and 504 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see him. He's had one run 505 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: in practice that just tossed him outside run. He got 506 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage so fast. I'm like, oh 507 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: my god, Like the blocks couldn't even set up. So 508 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 2: that was a good sign because like he's got some juice. 509 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: He still got his juice. And now you worry about 510 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: with the guy that's had coming off an achilles tendon tear. 511 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 1: But just remember seeing him in high school, like this 512 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: guy might be the best high school after that I've 513 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: ever seen. This is unbelievable. 514 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: I was watching that and I always hope he would 515 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: become a Texan, and now he is. He is now 516 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: a Texan. Along with the group of defensive linemen. A 517 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: bunch of Texans defensive lineman. Mark and I broke down 518 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 2: the defensive line position for the Texans. You won't want 519 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: to miss it. Every single guy we just talked about. 520 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: We'll go in further on next right here on Texans 521 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: All Access. Welcome back, everybody, Monday edition to Texans All Access. 522 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: Coming at you from the day Texans Radio Studio. I 523 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: am John Harris, Football and South. I'm reporter for your 524 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: Houston Texans and each and every morning on Texans Training 525 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: Camp Live yours truly breaks down a particular position and 526 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: obviously Mark just lobs the fastballs in there and then 527 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: I try and knock him out of the park. So 528 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: for today, one of the more fun groups to break down, Mark, 529 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 2: which one did we do? 530 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 3: The defensive line? 531 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: Johnny, We've got a lot of guys. I'm gonna go 532 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: in no particular order here. I'm saving some of the 533 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 4: best for a last Let's start here. Because Tim Settle 534 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: came to us from the Little Bills. You and I 535 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: caught up with him. Really enjoyed the visit out of 536 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 4: Virginia Tech. He's been in the league for a while, 537 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 4: He's done some things. 538 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a rotational piece up in Buffalo, but massively built, 539 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: broad shoulder three hundred and fifteen, three hundred and twenty pounds, 540 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 2: moves very well. Thick leverage guy. I think he can 541 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: end up being a guy inside that now he's given 542 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: the opportunity maybe to start, maybe never know. I think 543 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 2: he's gonna be a rotation of guys in that interior. 544 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: But I love athletic size, and I think that's what 545 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: Tim Settle has. 546 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: I remember watching them at Virginia Tech. A little shorter, 547 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: a little. 548 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 2: Bit more compact than some defensive tackles, and so he 549 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: can win those leverage battles. He's gonna be really interesting 550 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: to watch. I think you can play over the nose. 551 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: I think you can play out to the three technique. 552 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 2: I think you can play either. But I think they'll 553 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: probably play him over the nose a little bit more 554 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: than you would with some other guys. 555 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: But he's gonna be bigger than you were on the 556 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: nose last year. 557 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 2: You know when you started Malik and Sheldon last year, 558 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 2: neither one of them at the end of the year. 559 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: I guarantee you is three hundred pounds, I promise you. 560 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: And now you're playing one of those guys over the 561 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: nose and cells some feet he can move, so I 562 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: think he's gonna be a really good fit in this 563 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: defense with that size. 564 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 4: Staying with some of the bigger guys here Khalil Davis, 565 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: who we've talked about a ton. All he does is 566 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 4: make plays. Three hundred and fifteen pounds is his listed weight. 567 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: Six to third year out of Nebraska, and again a 568 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 4: guy who flashes for sure. 569 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: No doubt. 570 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: We saw him last year first day he came in 571 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: for training camp Daron Pads. He had just finished playing 572 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 2: with the the XFL champions or USFL champions Birmingham Stallions, 573 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: so he had not been too far removed from playing, 574 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 2: so he didn't have too much rush to shake off. 575 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: And it showed quick, strong, smart, learned how to use 576 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: his hands last year. It's one of the things in 577 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 2: talking to him that he was his defensive line coach 578 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: Is harped on last year using his hands properly getting 579 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: off and his get off is great. 580 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: He's quick, he's thick. 581 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 2: He is the perfect fit for this defense and getting 582 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 2: up field, and he just consistently made big plays last year. 583 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 2: You watch a game from last year from week three 584 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: on and you just see him make a big play, 585 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: a sack here, a TfL there, there was I can't 586 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: remember what came. I was watching the other day and 587 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: he burst into the back I think it's a Tampa 588 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: Bay game. He burst into the backfield and made a 589 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 2: TfL and Rashad White and thought, man, he just made 590 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: big plays last year all year, and hopefully you do 591 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: it again this year. 592 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: All right. 593 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 4: Another big guy, six ' four out of Yukon and 594 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: Queens Floranzo fought Akassi. 595 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: He's kind of got a little bit of a New 596 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: York accent. Three eighteen his listed weight. 597 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds big, and you see him and he 598 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: is big, but then you watch him and you're like, 599 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: please quick. 600 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: His feet are really really good. 601 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: That stood out to me when I was watching him 602 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: with Jacksonville last year, and I think that's what makes 603 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: him really really difficult on the inside. 604 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: Saw him on a play and team I think. 605 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: It was either a Saturday practice or Friday practice, and 606 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: he literally they are on pads, but they were trying 607 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 2: to scoop him. Basically, what that means is he's had 608 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: a three techniques on the outside part of a lineman 609 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: and a limeo was trying to get any outside of him, 610 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: and thought Tukasi just kind of snatched him up and 611 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 2: kind of held him off with one arm and then 612 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: ended up tackling the running back with his other arm. 613 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: I thought, that's nice. I wish you know I could 614 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: do that. But he's the type of guy that's gonna 615 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 2: be able to do those things. He reminds you, especially 616 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 2: when number nine one, it reminds you of Hassan Ridgeway. Well, 617 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: Ridgeway couldn't stay healthy last year. Hopefully Folly can stay 618 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: healthy because I think he gives you what Ridgeway was 619 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 2: gonna give you. 620 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: Plus more. So I'd love the fought Tacosi pick up. 621 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: I'm glad he's with us. It's a plus plus. It's 622 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: a plus because he's here. It's a plus because he 623 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: left Jacksonville. 624 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 4: And it's a plus because I get to say Florunzo 625 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 4: out of the air. 626 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: Kurks he is. 627 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 3: He's always been a plus. Third year, No tre Dame. 628 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: Maybe one of the most improved players over the last 629 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: three years. 630 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: He was our player of the Game against the Ravens 631 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: in the playoff game, and he was really good in 632 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: that game. 633 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: Now, his numbers are never gonna wow you. 634 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: He's not gonna end up with ten sacks any one year, 635 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: But just watch him the first day, just watching him 636 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 2: do things he had done the first two years and 637 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: seeing how quick and how explosive he was doing them 638 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: spin moves, you know, just his feet and his footwork. 639 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 2: He's worked on even more. He's not three hundred fifteen pounds. 640 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: He's maybe three hundred three oh five if he's lucky, 641 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: but he's built lower the ground. He's a little shorter 642 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 2: than some of the defensive tackles, so he gets off 643 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 2: blocks really well. He's tough when he gets penetrating upfield. 644 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: I think Kurt Heynis is one of the more underrated 645 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: players on his team. 646 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 4: Wow McTelvin Agim out of Arkansas so s I think 647 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 4: he's as athletic as they get up front. He ran 648 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 4: down Jair Jordan the other day in practice. 649 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: I was floored. 650 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 2: Juarr Jordan caught a swing pass over on my sideline 651 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: and Sos was a I think he was the defensive 652 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: lineman on this side. And Jordan turns up the field 653 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: and there was there's the linebacker there, so he kind 654 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: of hesitated for that. I see fifty eight just lying 655 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: down the field, thirty yards down the field, tagging off 656 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: on him. He's an athletic dude, just really has not 657 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: had a chance to kind of establish himself any one place. 658 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: To me, he's one of the guys to watch these 659 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: preseason games. Mark go ahead. 660 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 4: Marcus Harris out of Auburn, rookie undrafted, another big guy, 661 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: sixty three, almost three hundred pounds. 662 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: He's he's not sixty three. I wish he if he 663 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: were six to three, he probably three hundred pounds. He 664 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: would have never gotten too the Texans and he's listed. 665 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: He's listed. He really is about six. 666 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: One and a half to eighty two, which I think 667 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: is what he was at the Senior Bowl. 668 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: But he's thick, and more importantly, he is quick. He 669 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: can get upfield in a hardbeat. 670 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: I watched the game against Georgia last year and he 671 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: really gave some really good Georgia Linemans some problems because 672 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: he got off the snap quickly. And he's strong, like 673 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: if you see his guns, his guns are the size 674 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: of our legs. So he's pretty thick. Even though he's 675 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: quote unquote undersized. He's undersized or thought to be because he's 676 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: only two hundred and eighty two pounds, but he really 677 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: can get upfield. 678 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: He is a fit. 679 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: I'm really curious to see when they get the pads 680 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: on how tough it is to block that guy, because 681 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: without pads, that offensive line has really touched him at times. 682 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: So I think Marcus Harris has got to definitely watch 683 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: for sure. 684 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 4: All right, let's get to the ends here, because this 685 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 4: team has two veterans going into their fifteenth season. One 686 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 4: of them, John Weeks's right in front of us, and 687 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 4: another one, Jerry Hughes, added to the roster right before camp. 688 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jerry, he has been fun to watch. And you 689 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: think a guy's in his fifteenth year. He didn't work 690 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: out OTA's mini camp. He's gonna have some rush right. Well, 691 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: the first teams really threw him into He threw that 692 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: ghost move where it looks like a rip move, but 693 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 2: he just drops like a ghost. He just disappears, and 694 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: he went right around a tackle. And he didn't have 695 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: his name on the back of his jersey, and so 696 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: I didn't know who number fifty two was. 697 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, who is that? 698 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: Oh, you realize it's Jerry Hughes, and you think, man, 699 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: he's doing that again, maximizing Jerry Hughes impact fifteen to 700 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: twenty snaps a game, no more than that, and making 701 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: sure those are past rush reps. You throw a Jerry 702 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: in a pass rush mix with all the other guys 703 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: that we're gonna talk about. 704 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: Holy smokes, this'll be fun to watch, all right. Two 705 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 4: draft choices from USC on this squad. 706 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 3: One of them Solomon Byrd and. 707 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: Very skilled rushing the passer. I mean, he's got a 708 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: lot of pass rush moves. He definitely has learned that 709 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: he's not a twitchy. The numbers, you know, his combine 710 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: numbers weren't great at all. But he'll play hard, he'll 711 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: play physical. He's got to set the edge against the 712 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: run a little bit better than he did USC. But 713 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: he's got some pass rush ability, there's no question. I 714 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: think that's one of the reasons that they ended up 715 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: getting him. And here's the other thing about Solomon Byrd. 716 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 2: There are some special teams that you can put him on. 717 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: You might be able to sneak him into some special teams, 718 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: maybe punt team and maybe kickoff team. 719 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: Some of those things. 720 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: He doesn't have to especially kickoff team, because he doesn't 721 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: have to cover forty yards. But he's a pretty thick guy, 722 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: and I've seen them use him on some special team, 723 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: so I'm curious again. The more you can do, and 724 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: as a seventh round rookie man, the more you can 725 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: do fits perfectly. 726 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 4: All Right, two more longish shots before we get to 727 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 4: the names you know on the d line. Malik Fisher 728 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 4: defensive end from Billanova, undrafted free age. 729 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah it was in the UFL. Had a really good 730 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: year in the UFL. Reminds me a little bit of 731 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 2: Jacob Martin. He's got, you know, some light. Now, Jacob 732 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: didn't have all that length. Jacob was really a stute 733 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: pass rusher because he studied it. He looked at it 734 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: more science than art, but he really was good at that. 735 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: Malik's kind of that way. He's got a little bit 736 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: longer frame. I think Jacob was probably a little bit 737 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: better pass rusher. But Fisher, I think at seven to 738 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: eight sacks in UFL. So give him an opportunity and 739 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: see what he can do when he's one on one's 740 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: come up. 741 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: That's gonna be really fun to watch him. 742 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: Ali gay a guy's been here for a couple of 743 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: years now, and now it's time. 744 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: To show what he can do from the edge. 745 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: He's healthy now, he wasn't in OTAs, so he's got 746 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: to really prove that he's got a little bit more 747 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: in a pass rush game than he had last year. 748 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 3: And Mario Edwards ninth year, ninth year out of Florida State. 749 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: Man, I love what Mario Edwards gives them. He was 750 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: inside the other day. I'm not inside the building inside 751 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: as a defensive tackle. They tried to run at him. 752 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: Forget it. He just soaked that thing right up. He 753 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: can rush from the outside. I think he's probably put 754 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: on more weight than his listed weight. What's his listed weight, 755 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: like too eighty five something like that. I think he's 756 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: I think he's bigger than that. So I think they 757 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: might try and use him on the inside a little 758 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: bit more. And I think that's gonna be fun to 759 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: watch him when he's inside because he's so quick, but 760 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: he's still strong and when you see him, you think 761 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: he can withstand the interior. And I think that's what 762 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: they might try to do with him, cause he's a 763 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: little bigger twound eighty. 764 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 4: Okay, here we go, defensive ends continue, Denico Autrey, What 765 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 4: are we gonna get from him? 766 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: I was just watching that oilers that Titans game from 767 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: last year, and they put. 768 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: The name up there all over the stadium. 769 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: I feel bad for Juice. 770 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: So it was only like his third or fourth game 771 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: of the year and he's got to face Denico Autry 772 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: in a pass rush. Deniko just gives him double swipe 773 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: and goes by him, gets a sack of case. I mean, 774 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: you know, Deneko Audry just kill us for years, I 775 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: mean just absolutely killed us for years. He killed us, 776 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: and now he's on our side and seeing him into 777 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: Texas Jersey is still kind of odd. But again, like 778 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: Mario Edwards, now, I think unlike Mario Edwards, I think 779 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: Autrey is probably gonna be more served being outside on 780 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: every down other than pass rush downs, and then he 781 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: can go inside like he did and that play is 782 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: described against Jews. I think you could put him pretty 783 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: much pretty much anywhere. So that's why I love about 784 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: Denko left right, inside, outside. He can play any of 785 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: those four rush spots, can rush against anybody, and I 786 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: think he's the kind of guy that you might look 787 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: for the advantage. Hey, Deniko, I think you can beat 788 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 2: this guard from the New York Giants. 789 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: Let's move you inside. 790 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 2: Let's move Will outside or keep Will outside and we 791 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: can work with that. 792 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 4: There's another category that we don't discuss much. Where would 793 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 4: we be without? Category? Because I'm gonna actually attribute this 794 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 4: to Bill O'Brien, who once upon a time said where 795 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 4: would we be without TJ. 796 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeats? 797 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 4: He said that in twenty fifteen when Yeats rejoined the 798 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 4: team won a couple of big games for them, most 799 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 4: notably the Cincinnati Monday Night game. Well, we could have 800 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 4: said this last year, where would we be without Derek Bartnett, 801 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 4: who they acquired relatively lately in the season, did some 802 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 4: great things, especially with Will and Grenard all banged up 803 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 4: defensive end, makes plays. He's does he have a ring 804 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 4: with the Eagles? Yes, he doesn't have a ring with Eagles, 805 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 4: And now he's here again. Barnett in every game that 806 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 4: he played the last. 807 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: Five or six with the Texans and the two in 808 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: the playoffs, he had a TfL and a quarterback hit 809 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: in every single game minus the last one. He just 810 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: didn't have a quarterback hit. He had a TfL in 811 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: every game. He ended up with two and a half sacks, 812 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 2: but quarterback hitting a TfL in every game. He was 813 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: that impactful from the second he stepped onto this field 814 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 2: for the Texans. And again, he doesn't have to play 815 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: every single snap, So he got Danil Hunter and Will Anderson. 816 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to play every single snap. 817 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 2: But then he comes in fresh and Will and Deaneil 818 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 2: have been beating up those tackles and now Barnett's going 819 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: against the tackle that's kind of been loosened up a 820 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: little bit and Derek can go to work strong against 821 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: the run. He's slippery inside, still got a lot of 822 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: game left. I'm so glad they brought him back. And 823 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 2: you just add Barnett to Audrey, to the next two 824 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: guys we're gonna talk about and Jerry hughes Man. That's 825 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: as good a five person defensive end group as I 826 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 2: have heard since we've been here, right even close. 827 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 4: All right, local guy Daniel Hunter double digit sacks from Minnesota, and. 828 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: He led the league in TFLs hit twenty three TFLs 829 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 2: last year, So you. 830 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: Know, the guy can play the run as well. 831 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 3: Huge. 832 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 2: He he wants to be a four down lineman. He 833 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 2: wants to put his hand in the dirt, but he 834 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: can also rush inside. That's one of the things that 835 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: he did in Minnesota. Doesn't love to do it. 836 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: You know, none of those. 837 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 2: Defensivens love to do it unless they can get that 838 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: two way go against the guard. And you give Danil 839 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: Hunter a two way go, it's over. He is chopping 840 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 2: and ripping and swiping. His hands are so good. He's 841 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: improved so much over the years. At LSU, he was 842 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 2: just an athlete, kind of running around. He confirmed that 843 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 2: when we talked to him this offseason. But he has 844 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 2: grown his game. He understands what he has to be 845 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 2: able to do on a down end, down out basis. 846 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see what that guy looks in 847 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 2: a Texans uniform in a game opposite the last guy 848 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:30,959 Speaker 2: we'll talk about. 849 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 4: All right, Yes, second year out of Alabama, defensive rookie 850 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 4: of the year. 851 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what he weighs. 852 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 4: What does he say six sixty now to sixty three 853 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 4: is really six to four? I think he's six. Will 854 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 4: Anderson Junior, my gosh, can't wait to see the encore performance. 855 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: He's the alpha. He is the alpha. It is through 856 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: him everything goes defensively, and not that every scheme or 857 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: every uh, every you know, pass rush, twist stunt game 858 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 2: is a Will Anderson thing. When I'm talking about everything 859 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 2: runs through him. It's the attitude of that defense. Now, 860 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: Zizel Shier, I'm glad they brought in because he could 861 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: take some of that. But Will Anderson sets the tone. 862 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 2: His intensity is gonna set the tone for that group. 863 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: Everything that he does is gonna set the tone. When 864 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: he had a sack last year, Energy Stadium lit up. 865 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: Remember that game against Tennessee week seventeen. He's got an 866 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 2: ankle that he probably can't even walk normal, and that 867 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: ankle had been that way for a few weeks, but 868 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 2: he knew it was a gotta have it situation. He 869 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 2: went out there for twelve snaps that game, had two sacks, 870 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 2: beat the left tackle. 871 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: The first one and the second one. They're like, well, 872 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: we better help the left tackle. 873 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: Then he went through the running back and the left 874 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 2: tackle to get a second sack, got Tennessee out of 875 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: field goal range right before the half. Was absolutely massive. 876 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 2: That's just the impact he has. And that was his 877 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: first year. And we talked to him a couple of 878 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 2: times this offseason. He's just like, I'm just working to 879 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: get better. And if he's working to get better, and 880 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: that's the kind of guy that will get better. He'll 881 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 2: learn more, he'll understand what tackles are trying to do. 882 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: He can set them up a little bit better. You know, 883 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: he's going on thousand miles an hour, and for that alone, 884 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 2: it's the intensity. And I wrote this in Harris Hits 885 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: the other day when I was out on the field. 886 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 2: I look over in the defensive end. I think it 887 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 2: was Saturday, look around and there are you know, a 888 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 2: lot of players have gone inside to the bubble because 889 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 2: THEYD O and D walk through. And I look up 890 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 2: and it's eight forty five and there's not many people 891 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: on the field. And I look over and Will is 892 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 2: by himself going through the bags, working a dummy, working 893 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: his past for rush, just by himself, and I just thought, man, dang, 894 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 2: he walks it talks it. Plenty of guys have talked it, 895 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 2: but then they just get in the field and like, eh, 896 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 2: they don't walk it. He does both. He is the 897 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 2: outpha that defense, and I love it. He's gonna set 898 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 2: the tone for this team all ye long. 899 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 4: All right, that's your defensive line position. Grew breakdown and 900 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 4: we do this kind of stuff every day during Texans 901 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 4: training camp live so at the ends. You look at 902 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 4: Will Anderson Jr. Daniel Barnett. I've got Autrey listed as 903 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 4: an end on this roster, but you know he can 904 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 4: play inside and maybe Hughes or somebody else or Bird 905 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 4: since he was drafted. Right, But let's say they go. 906 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 4: Didn't Nick say they could keep ten or more? 907 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 3: Was he saying or more? 908 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: No? 909 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: Way? 910 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 3: More? 911 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe hang on a second. Maybe The problem again, 912 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 2: the problem is is none of those guys on up 913 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 2: playing special teams. 914 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 915 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 2: Now here's the funny part of that, is, right, is 916 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 2: if you asked Will Anderson to play special teams, he would. 917 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: He probably wants to. 918 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 3: It's like wanting to play on the putt team in Cleveland. 919 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 4: You know, he's probably dying to make place that way. 920 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 921 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like I could. 922 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: Get after him. 923 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah you can, but don't don't get the fifteen yarder. 924 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 3: Yeah but that was awesome. 925 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 2: But but that that I think could end up being 926 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 2: the that's gonna end up being one of the issues 927 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,479 Speaker 2: is none of the those guys will play the defense 928 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 2: line won't play special teams. 929 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: Now, now, they could get Bird maybe to do it. 930 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 2: And I think the bigger guys you can put on 931 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 2: certain like field goal block and you know that kind 932 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 2: of thing. But they won't be core four special teamers, 933 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 2: and so that that keeps you from probably what having 934 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: eleven guys there, but the top five defensive end rushers, 935 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 2: Will Anderson Junior, Daniel Hunter, Deniko Autry, Derek Barnett, Jerry Hughes. Okay, 936 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 2: so in the past first situation, you're gonna have no, 937 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: no fewer than three of those guys on the field. 938 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: And then let's just say a drive is going along, 939 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: and let's go to the fourth quarter. 940 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 2: Fourth quarter up, seven teams got the ball and they 941 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: go into a no hutle situation. 942 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you do? 943 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 2: You put you put three of those guys out there, 944 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: and you put a defensive tackle just in case they 945 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 2: try and sneak up you know, a trap or you 946 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 2: know a drawer or something like that in it. Right, 947 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 2: those guys rush for three or four What happened on 948 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 2: those long drives, they start dying, right, Yeah, they're just gassed. 949 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: Well there's a throat of bounds or they change personnel. 950 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 2: Run the next group out there. Yeah, you still have 951 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 2: three guys you can put out there, right, that can 952 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 2: rush from all different locations. 953 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 3: It's the beauty of it. 954 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 955 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 2: If you throw Mario Edwards and that group, that gives 956 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: you six and Edwards and Autry could be your inside 957 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 2: guy for either one of those. 958 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: Just go backwards. 959 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 4: So you go ten DL, ten dbs, right, yeah, probably 960 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 4: six corners, four safeties. However, you want to break it 961 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 4: down and then you have five slots left over roughly 962 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,479 Speaker 4: because you're gonna go twenty five to twenty five to three. 963 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 4: You know it could be twenty four to twenty six 964 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 4: that it usually is one guy swing. Yeah, yeah, but 965 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 4: with the linebackers. You do need the linebackers for special teams, 966 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 4: no doubt. But like we talked about, why do we 967 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 4: even talk about three starting linebackers anymore, it's not. It's 968 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 4: not three starting linebackers. 969 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: It's two. 970 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 4: Because you're a nickel over sixty percent of the time 971 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 4: anyway in this league. 972 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: That's right. 973 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 4: So that's how you have to look at it. And look, 974 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 4: we got a lot of long time to talk this. 975 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 4: We have seven weeks from yesterday until opening day against 976 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 4: the Colts. 977 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 2: I thought about this after we did that segment. Seven 978 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 2: weeks sounds like a long time. It's not. It is 979 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 2: really not. It's gonna fly by, and especially because you 980 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 2: got the preseason games, four of them, storry with the 981 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game on August first, so you've got 982 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 2: a lot of opportunities to see these guys. But that 983 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 2: is going to go in a blink, so we better 984 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 2: be ready. What about green Bay? Is green Bay ready? 985 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 2: Is green Bay ready. 986 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: To live without love? Hmm? 987 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 2: We'll discuss we go around in the league next right 988 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 2: here in Texans All Access. 989 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: What's Happened Everybody? 990 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 2: A one final segment this Monday edition of Texans All Access. 991 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 2: Make sure you tune in tomorrow Texas Training Camp Live 992 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 2: as Pads go on and fans go in the stands. 993 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 2: Awesome is that fans in stands with Pads Field one. 994 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 2: Hopefully's gonna be ready to go. They get to painted today, 995 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 2: so it should be in good shape. Really looking forward 996 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 2: to that happening. But you want to tune into Texas 997 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 2: Training Camp Live. Of course, we give you all the 998 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 2: updates everything that's happening, and obviously just fuel. 999 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: The energy and you'll probably get a little fomo. 1000 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but you're gonna be driving 1001 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 2: around wishing you'd be there at practice with me. With us, 1002 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 2: and I appreciate you being with me two night. All right, 1003 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 2: to go around the NFL. And this is a story 1004 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 2: that popped up this morning actually, I think just after 1005 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 2: Texas training camp live. 1006 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: I can't remember when I first saw this, but Jordan Love, quarterback. 1007 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers, will not practice, according to his agents 1008 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 2: until his contract is redone. Now GM Brian Goodikuz says, hey, 1009 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 2: we're getting close. We think we're close to having this. 1010 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 2: We don't think this is going to be an issue. 1011 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 2: So again, deadlines spur action, and so the Packers are 1012 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 2: reporting to camp very soon. I can't remember what day 1013 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: it is, but they're reporting camp obviously any day now. 1014 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: But they will not have Jordan Love out at practice. 1015 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 1: He will be a hold in. That's what a lot 1016 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: of these players have done lately. 1017 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 2: They're there so they can't get fined, but they're not 1018 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 2: practicing and there's nothing really a team can do about it. 1019 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 1: So that's the way it'll be handled. 1020 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 2: But his agents, David Mulugetta, I believe it is Jordan 1021 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 2: Love's agent. 1022 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: They will hold out. Now. 1023 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 2: The contract situation for Love's a little different than others. 1024 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 2: The twenty twenty fourth season will be Love's second as 1025 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 2: full time starter, but it's the fifth on a Packers payroll. 1026 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 2: It's the final year of a one year extension to 1027 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 2: his four year rookie contract, so it definitely is time 1028 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 2: to get Love extended, especially after the year last year. 1029 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 2: So his representation told the Packers not practicing until a deal. 1030 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: Is done, and I think that's the right thing to do. 1031 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: Will hold in a little Love in and they'll get 1032 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: that deal done, I would imagine before too long. 1033 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 2: Speaking of contracts, Jamar Chase is coming out of his 1034 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 2: third year. Mike Brown, the president of the Let's just 1035 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 2: Say Bengals, says, we will do whatever we have to. 1036 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 2: We will bend over backwards to make sure that Jamar 1037 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 2: Chase is taken care of. Now, his LSU teammate Justin 1038 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 2: Jefferson just signed a four year, one hundred and forty 1039 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 2: million dollars deal he works in the league. Jamar Chase 1040 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 2: will sign one for beyond that. Making it tricky is 1041 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 2: the t Higgins situation. But he's gonna play the sho 1042 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 2: under tag and then I guess says he'll go somewhere 1043 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 2: else next year and be a free agent for the 1044 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 2: class of twenty five. But the Bengals said, that's our guy, 1045 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. We will bend over backwards to make sure 1046 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 2: he is here. With Joe Burrow, Hard Knocks has been 1047 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 2: with the New York Giants. We've been watching that. In fact, 1048 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 2: a interesting episode is coming on as it sort of 1049 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 2: relates to this news from the New York Giants. 1050 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: Quarterback Daniel Jones should be. 1051 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 2: Ready to go by training can has his acl torn 1052 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 2: last year. If you've been following that story, he was 1053 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 2: out the rest of the year. Tommy DeVito stepped up 1054 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 2: for a little bit. He became kind of a cult 1055 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 2: hero for about three or three weeks. But in the end, 1056 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 2: the Giants really struggled without Daniel Jones. Now I don't 1057 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 2: think that I think the Giants were gonna struggle regardless 1058 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 2: because it did with Daniel Jones. 1059 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: But he is and I quote ready to go, said Jones. 1060 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 2: I feel good, ready to go, ready to go for 1061 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 2: training camp, looking forward to next Wednesday. Now he does 1062 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 2: not believe that Darren Waller, he does not have Darren Waller. 1063 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 2: Darren Waller retired, but Daniel Jones should be ready to go. 1064 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 2: What makes this interesting is a Tuesday night episode of 1065 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 2: Hard knocks, there is going to be discussion of a 1066 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels or a trade for Jaden Daniels. Oh, now, 1067 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 2: the Giants ended up taking Eleak neighbors Jayden Daniels teammate 1068 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 2: at LSU. 1069 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: But how interesting is this. 1070 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 2: They're gonna start camp, Jones is ready to go, and 1071 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 2: then that episode is gonna air showing the Giants apparently 1072 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 2: entertaining deals to trade up to go get Jade and Daniels. 1073 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: Now obviously didn't work because they ended up with the 1074 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 1: league neighbors. But interesting. 1075 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 2: Nonetheless, in Dallas, Trayvon Diggs brother Stefan Diggs all pro 1076 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 2: cornerback in Dallas towards ACL in week three or prior 1077 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 2: to week three, before the game against Arizona, he will 1078 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 2: start to earn. 1079 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: An active pup kind of like Andrew Back, Danelo Ross, 1080 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: Delshaun Phillips. 1081 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 2: They work out on the side and then they'll get 1082 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 2: back whenever they're healthy, they can play. 1083 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,760 Speaker 1: They're not out for the year. There's two distinctions in pup. 1084 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 2: This is the one that allows Treyvon Diggs to come back, 1085 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 2: and he more than likely will at some point. 1086 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: All right, that's the show. 1087 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,760 Speaker 2: Big thanks to Mark to all you guys for listening 1088 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 2: to my guys back at sports AREO six ten for 1089 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 2: keeping us. 1090 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: On the straight and narrow. Texas training Camp live tomorrow 1091 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: eight to ten. You don't want to miss it. Pads, 1092 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: fans fun, it's great. We'll see that everybody, and as always, 1093 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: go Texas.