1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: M Hey, everybody, this is behind the Bastards. I'm Robert Evans. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm here with Cody Johnston and Katie Stole. And Cody 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: is furious because something that happened on the literally got 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: the smoke coming out of his ears so mad. He's 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: really angry, and there's nothing I can do about it. 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: There's nothing to do about it because someone was blatantly 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: wrong online on the internet and they said it and 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: they said people support it, and I'm so on the internet. 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: You know what's healthy? This awesome? Good for your heart. 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: I find that the best way through this is just 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: to keep reopening wounds and then putting some salt in 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: it and then talking about it and really focusing on it. 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: That's good. Have you tried numbing yourself with drugs and alcohol? 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: Super good? That's what you think. It's all part of that. 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: That's the next step. Once it's unbearably painful, you consume 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: whatever you need to get through the next twelve Right. 17 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: I always get like these emails and like DM so, 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: like hey, great show of the show, but like, how 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: do you keep saying like, yeah, we did, what are 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: you talking about? I'm never not high? How do you relax? 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I do drugs and rewatch Community 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: for the fifth time because it makes me feel like 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: the world drama in the background I'm I'm listening to 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: I have to admit I've never read Harry Potter, and 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: I am listening to them. That sounds soothing and so 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: that I can't wait to get back in my car 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: and listen to it. It's nice, It's nice. What Happens 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: to the Gang Jim dail Treasure Optimistic Fiction Star Trek 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: the Next Generation. Yeah, you don't think too much about 30 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: what's happening now, and the fact that when they rebooted, 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: it's probably just going to be a card punching pieces 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: rather than choosing to use his words instead of weaponry 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: because diplomacy and compassion. Perhaps, like that eisode where like 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: there's this space monster that kills a couple hundred people, 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: but then they're like, oh, it's just hungry. We can 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: find a way to like make sure it doesn't kill 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: anymore people without killing it, because it's better to not 38 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: kill things, even if they've done wrong, if they don't 39 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: know that what they've done was wrong, because they're an animal. 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes not killing better. What concept, Yeah, let's talk about 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: Nazis in America again. Yeah, okay, So when we just 42 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: left off, people had rallied at Madison Square Garden to 43 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: support the German American Boon. A hundred thousand anti fascists 44 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: had shown up outside. They had fought with the police, 45 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: the largest display a force in NYPD history, to protect 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: the fascistis. And then the fascist had beaten the ship 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: out of a Jewish boy who would run on stage 48 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: when Fritz Kuhn was directly attacking the Jewish race to applaus. 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: Riotous cheers, joyful glee. That's unfamiliar. So we're all caught 50 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: up up to speed. Now we're all back up to 51 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: speed about what happened two days ago on this podcasts Now, 52 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: there are numerous accounts of police failing to intervene against 53 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: violent fascist mobs throughout the nineteen thirties. In ninety three, 54 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: after the first pro Nazi rallies in Los Angeles, a 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: World War One veteran named Leon Lewis started a grassroots 56 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: undercover spying operation. Along with several other disabled veterans, They 57 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: joined various fascist groups, including the Silver Shirts, in order 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: to report on their operations. When Lewis went to the 59 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: police to talk about what he had seen the Silver 60 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: Shirts planning, which was, you know, the overthrow of the 61 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: democratically like the government, the extermination of several races, the 62 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: enslavement of black When he went to the l A 63 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: p D with this no throw to the l A. 64 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Times quote, not only were the police unconcerned, but they 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: were sympathetic to the Nazi Silver Shirts. I have records 66 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: of Leon Lewis going to Los Angeles Police Chief Jim 67 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: two Gun Davis and telling him, look, I'm not just 68 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: some amateur. I was actually a captain. I did some 69 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: intelligence in the army. I have these veterans with me, 70 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: and we have uncovered a plot to seize the armories 71 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: here where all the ammunition is and weapons. We know 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: they are actively buying guns in San Diego and they're 73 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: planning to take over the city government and take over 74 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: the armory. And he brought all of this to police 75 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Chief Davis, and Davis cut him off two minutes into 76 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: Lewis's spiel and said stop Hitler was only doing what 77 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 1: he had to do to save Germany. And in fact, 78 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: there was right, and the real problems aren't the Nazis 79 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: and fascist walking around the streets of l A. The 80 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: real problem is in Boil Heights where all those communists 81 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: are still so much. What he didn't say but was clear, 82 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: is that as far as police Chief to Gun Davis 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: was concerned, every Communist was a Jew and every Jew 84 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: was a Communist. Right. Well, we learned that last episode. 85 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: He did learn that last episode. Two gun Davis to 86 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: guns for Nazis. I know, I know where both those 87 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: guns are pointed at anyone who's not white standing near 88 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: Jim two gun Davis. Heck, he worked hard for those 89 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: two guns. There was a time when he was one 90 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: gun Davis and it did not have the I can 91 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: tell you where that one gun was pointed. In April 92 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: of let's than two months after the German American Boons 93 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden rally, a group of several hundred anti 94 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: fascists attacked the newsboys distributing Father Coughlin's newspaper. Christian Front 95 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: members rushed out to fight them, and the NYPD basically 96 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: sat out and did nothing while they beat the anti fascists. 97 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: Some people said this was because most cops were Irish 98 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: American and the Christian Front was a Catholic priest. Fascist militia. 99 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: Maybe now. That same year at the Roper Center for 100 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Public Opinion reported that only thirty nine percent of Americans 101 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: agreed that Jews deserved equal rights. Ten percent of them 102 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: believe the government should deport Jewish Americans. So that's that's fun. 103 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: So if you were a random observer in nineteen thirty nine, 104 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: the fact that the fascists lost big in nineteen thirty 105 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 1: six might not have been all of that comforting. In fact, 106 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: it really looked at the time like fascism was only 107 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: growing stronger in the Land of the Free. After his 108 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: defeat nineteen thirty eight, failed congressional candidate John wyn Rod 109 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: started actively working with Father Coughlin. They find their strategies 110 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: together and tried to focus more on non intervention than 111 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: explicit fascist politics. Quote from Hitler's American Friends. Coughlin argued 112 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: that the war was a clash of competing capitalist interests, 113 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: not a fight to save Europe from the barbarism of 114 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: Nazi domination. He praised Hitler openly and attacked Roosevelt win 115 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: Rod's message was similar. Less than a month before Pearl Harbor, 116 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: he was still arguing that that European war was raging 117 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: because quote a reaction has developed in the Old World 118 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: against Jewish communism and Jewish capitalism. International Jewry is in 119 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: a state of great perplexity, and so what happens that 120 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: we have an administration at Washington which is pro communist 121 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: and Jewish dominated. During this time, FDR was refusing to 122 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: take in Jewish refugees from Europe so as to not 123 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: anger American voters, but jew which dominated. In July, Christian 124 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: Front violence hit a fever pitch. Coughlin was forced to 125 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: tell his listeners that he was quote neither the organizer 126 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: nor the sponsor of the Christian Front, and moreover, that 127 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: it is not becoming for me to identify myself with 128 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: this organization or any other organization. At the same time, 129 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: Father Coughlin started showing up at German American Bond meetings 130 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: and having his boy's hand out copies of his newsletter 131 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: at their gathering as well. There were rumors that the 132 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: two groups might soon merge. So except for that, yeah, 133 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: the reality, thankfully is that the German American Boond was 134 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: on the verge of collapse. At the start of nineteen 135 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: thirty nine, Fritz Kuhn had announced that every state besides 136 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: Louisiana had at least one booned office, but the MSG 137 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: rally would prove to be the buns undoing. See. Fritz 138 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: had essentially crowdfunded the rally Here we go again, and 139 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: about fourteen thousand dollars of the money he'd raised just 140 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: sort of disappeared. New York City Mayor LaGuardia had basically 141 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: given the rally is okay out of the hope that 142 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: once Americans saw fascis them up close, they decided it 143 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: was ridiculous and terrible and rejected. LaGuardia was furious at 144 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: the violence at the rally, especially the violence done to 145 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: the young man who had rushed on stage. LaGuardia ordered 146 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: an investigation into the boone's finances and found evidence that 147 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Kuhn had embezzled Fritz. Kuhne was arrested and charged. Simultaneously, 148 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: kun was subpoenaed by the D's Committee. Think of the 149 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: D's Committee as a precursor to McCarthy's House on an 150 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: American Activities Committee. It was a House on an American 151 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: Activities Committee, but it was both looking at fascists and commune. 152 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: This during the period prior to World War Two, So 153 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: and On an interesting note, a nineteen year old girl 154 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 1: testified right after Coon that the German American Boone's summer 155 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: camps were quote rife with homosexuality. Interesting point, yeah, Now. 156 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: The trial revealed that Kuhn had spent a large chunk 157 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: of the embezzled money on his mistress, including the equivalent 158 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: of twelve thousand, two thousand, eighteen dollars on long distance charges. 159 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: He also spent sixty six dollars in nineteen thirties dollars 160 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: on a doctor's bill for a former Miss American contestant 161 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: he'd been dating, which I'm guessing was for Kun was 162 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: convicted in December, kicked out of the bund and sent 163 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: to Sing Sing Prison, the most whimsically named prison. Certainly 164 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: it's really fun right, full of butterflies sing. It can't 165 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: be that bad, can't be that bad. It's the words 166 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: sing twice. I love singing. How could double singing be bad? 167 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: Excited for singing? Look, it's the sing prison. So the 168 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: German American Booned continued in Kuhn's absence, and the of 169 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: thousands of fascists it had nurtured were still out there, 170 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: but the organization itself declined sharply after this point. Nineteen 171 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: thirty nine was also the year of Pelly, and his 172 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: Silver Shirts would be brought to heal. Midway through the year, 173 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: an employee of Pelly's was found to be attempting to 174 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: infiltrate the D's Committee. A summons was issued for Pelly 175 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty nine, and he went on the run 176 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: rather than testify. He spent his fall running away from 177 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: the law, writing articles that he published in his newsletter 178 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: about his flight from the authorities. He also sued the 179 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: D's Committee for three point one five million dollars, claiming 180 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: it was defamation to describe him as a racketeer. In October, 181 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: Pelly missed a parole hearing in North Carolina. Acas. Remember 182 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: he'd been arrested for defrauding the people, of course, yeah. 183 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: A judge ordered an investigation into Silver Legion business in 184 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: the state, which led to their national headquarters being searched 185 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: by the police. And then in January of nineteen forty, 186 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: things got weird. Democratic Congressman Frank Hook introduced letters to 187 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: Congress that looked like they were between D's and Pelly 188 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: secretly allying in order to attack unionists and leftist organizers. 189 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: The letters were later proven to be forgeries, but Hook 190 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: refused to concede that he had been tricked until the 191 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: d Jay looked into it. Now. While this was uncoiling, 192 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: Pelly headed to Washington, d C. Walked into the Dice 193 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: Committee proceedings and turned himself in. He was questioned under 194 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: oath about the letters and denied writing them. He wouldn't 195 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: wind up jailed until nineteen forty one, but Pelly grew 196 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: increasingly irrelevant after this point, as Merce fled the Silver 197 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: Shirts after this period. So you've got the German American 198 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: booned in you know, nineteen forties collapses, and the Silver 199 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: Shirts have collapsed. And like these first sort of fascist 200 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: organizations that had entered after the rise of the fascists 201 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: and Europe decline into irrelevance in nineteen forty, it's a 202 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: good time to the good time to fascist decline in relevance. 203 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: This is not the end of now. On January seventh, 204 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: nineteen forty, Father Coughlin told his radio listeners that he 205 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: kind of started to think that democracy might be a 206 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: worse political system than having a dictatorship. He claimed the 207 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: democracy quote has failed so long to function advantageously for 208 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: the nation. That next week, Jack Grew Hoover led an 209 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: FBI raid that arrested eighteen members of the Brooklyn chapter 210 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: of the Christian Front. According to The New York Times, 211 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: this sell of fascist terrorists had planned quote the overthrow 212 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: of the government of the United States. Most of the 213 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: eighteen men were veterans or National guardsmen, and they'd stockpiled rifles, handguns, explosives, 214 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: and thousands of pounds of ammunition. In his press conference 215 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: on the matter, Hoover said, quote, Plans were discussed for 216 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: the wholesale sabotage and blowing up of these institutions so 217 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: that a dictatorship could be set up here, similar to 218 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: the Hitler dictatorship in Germany, seizing the reins of government 219 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: in this country as Hitler did in Germany. Their scheme 220 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: was to spread a rain of terrorism so that the 221 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: authorities would become thoroughly demoralized. Weird, nothing like that. Familiar 222 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: would be like if someone mailed a bunch of bombs 223 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: to a bunch of lawmakers. Something like that. It sounds 224 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: like not happen in real life, No, no, now. Hoover 225 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: also noted that the group wanted to eradicate all Jews 226 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: in the United States. It seems pretty clear that these 227 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: guys were nuts. Even back then, the NYPD was equipped 228 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: to handle eighteen dudes, but it still caused to stir. 229 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: Coughlin had to disavow both the would be revolutionaries and 230 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: the Christian Front. He claimed he only ever supported the 231 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: creation of a Christian in Front, so he had nothing 232 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: to do with the Christians that was attacking people and 233 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: planning the violent overthrow of the United States government. A 234 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: and the It's a critical difference. These fucking fake news 235 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: liberals trying to smear Father Coughlin. He wanted a Christian Front, 236 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: not the group coincidentally called Christian Front, twisting all these 237 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: words sad sad Now reporters were later able to find 238 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: several articles of Coughlin's newsletter where he had talked glowingly 239 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: by name about the guy who had planned the terror campaign. 240 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: Of course, of course, in February of nineteen thirty nine, 241 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: a gallop Pole revealed twenty three percent of respondents thought 242 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: that these committee should focus on quote Nazi activities, thought 243 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: it should focus on the Communist threat, but thirty percent 244 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: thought it ought to focus instead on war propaganda. These 245 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: people weren't exclusively talking about German war propaganda. A February 246 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: ninety one Fortune magazine survey found that thirty three percent 247 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: of American survey believed advocates of sending aid to Britain 248 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: were propagandists. So this is an important nuance here. In 249 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: August of nineteen forty, Galloped asked Americans if they thought 250 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: Hitler would invade the United States that Britain fell under 251 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: Nazi Jack Boots. Opinion was evenly split, with believing the 252 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: Nazis would invade the United States and forty five percent disagreeing. 253 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: In October of nineteen forty, a year before the US 254 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: entered World War Two, only eleven percent of Americans when 255 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: the U S Forces used to protect Great Britain. While 256 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: most Americans supported sending aid to Britain, fifty seven percent 257 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: of those who did said they supported sending aid because 258 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: they thought it would keep the U. S out of 259 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: World War two. This suited the Nazis just fine. During 260 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: this entire period, Nazi propaganda continued to virtually ignore grassroots 261 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: American fascism and focused instead on spreading propaganda to keep 262 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: US neutral. Here's how Hitler's American friends describes it. Quote. 263 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: The entire German objective was to sew enough confusion and 264 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: discord that the American people would grow weary and simply 265 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: want to check out of world events. The Nazis and 266 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: their supporters jumped on this task with enthusiasm. Washington newspaper 267 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: correspondent David Lawrence reported in nineteen forty that the city 268 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: was full of Nazi propaganda that had been quote planted 269 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: here and there in those academic circles, isolationist quarters, or 270 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: political precincts. Were almost any argument opposing the president's policy 271 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: would be seized upon his valid the Nazis, he stated, quote, No, 272 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: they were America, interesting, weird. I could see parallels there, 273 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of countries just trying to sew discord 274 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: without any particular role of than that, because they just 275 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: want just making stuff up. Man, just like you're just 276 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: like for you're forcing. I know it's not none of 277 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: it sounds familiar. I love talking about stuff that never 278 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: happened again, never happened again, thank god, thank god. Now, 279 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: the Nazis did not need to do much to stoke 280 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: anti Jewish sentiment among Americans. Of Americans survey believed Jews 281 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: should be treated equally, claimed Jewish people were somehow different 282 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: from Anglo Americans. Uh and tim percent of course supported deportation. 283 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: Of course. So in nineteen forty an election year, unpopular 284 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: right wing anthem was refuge Jews go home, because there 285 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: were all these refugees from the Nazis. They called him 286 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Refugews said they ought to be sent back to die 287 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: like a thing that never happened, Like yeah, like who 288 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: would want to take refugees murder? During the war, you 289 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: know about the extent, it was pretty common knowledge. Actually, 290 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: it was pretty common now at this point. There were 291 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: concentration camps. The death camps did not exist at this point. 292 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: That wasn't until forty two and after that really got going. Well. 293 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: They existed, but they weren't doing like there were camps. 294 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: But there's a difference between concentration camps and deaths. The 295 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: concentration camps were up, there were no exterminations. That did 296 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: start in forty one with the invasion of Russia, but 297 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't centers. It was like Einstatz group in units 298 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: wiping out Jewish populations and what had been Russia. But 299 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: it was very well known the persecution of Jewish people, 300 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: the fact that many of them had been put into camps, 301 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: the increasing laws like that was all common. So cool 302 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: on cool. But just like Jewish people, communists, socialists, social democrats, homosexuals, 303 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: handicapped people, just put them all and put them all 304 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: around them up, round them up. Yeah. So uh. In 305 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: nineteen forty one, we've got the silver Shirts, the Boone 306 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: and Father Coughlin all out of the picture or fading 307 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: in relevance. They flew too close to the sun, revealed 308 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: their power level too early. Modern Nazis would say, but 309 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: fascism in America was not quite willing to give up 310 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: the ghost. Good are you going to go get her? 311 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: That's the thing about it. Never quit, you know, yeah, 312 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, you just keep going. You just keep your 313 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: mind too. You can accomplish it. You pull them up 314 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: by those bootstrap, your jack bootstraps. So the real problem 315 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: that fascism had had up to this point in America 316 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: is that all of its most prominent speakers had focused 317 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: too much on the Jewish question. Americans were pretty anti Semitic, 318 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: but most people's anti emotism wasn't violent. You can be 319 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: an anti Semittin. I believe in extermination or whatever. Yeah, 320 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: rights prejudice, and it's not like I'm yeah. So there 321 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: was also the example of Nazi Germany doing really messed 322 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: up things to Jewish people as an example like how 323 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: bad it could get. And so a lot of Americans 324 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: who were anti Semitics still didn't want that. But it 325 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: turned out that the best way to make Americans really 326 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: embraced fascism was to tie it to isolationism. Entered the 327 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: America First Committee. Yea. It began in law school classrooms 328 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: at Yale. Robert Douglas Stewart Yale, this has not been 329 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: a good year of pr for you turning out just 330 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 1: the best people the best. So Robert Douglas Stewart Jr. 331 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: Son of the vice chairman of Quaker Oats, started holding 332 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: meetings with a couple of dozen other law students. We 333 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: talked about the worsening foreign war, Roosevelt's decision to run 334 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: for a third term, and how they might impact the 335 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: course of American politics to keep their nation out of 336 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: the war and put an end to roosevelt Socialist New 337 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: Deal policies, both equally important. Now, the goal of America 338 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: First then was to unify the anti interventionalist right with 339 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: the actual fastest right. Basically, anyone who didn't like Roosevelt 340 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: could coagulate around keeping America out of the war. After 341 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: the war, American fascist philosopher Lawrence Dennis said, quote, the 342 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: anti intervention or then so called isolation cause was basically 343 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: anti New Deal. It was against America getting into the 344 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: war only because the New Dealers seemed to be using 345 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: American intervention in the war as essentially a New Deal strategy. 346 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: The America Firsters or anti war factors were not really 347 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: pacifist or anti war. They were anti New Deal and 348 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: that made them anti war in that period in situation, 349 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: it's very important distinction here. We're against war. We're against 350 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: this war because we like the Nazis. Yeah, maybe fight 351 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: the communist you want. You want a war with the Communists, 352 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: we can. We're on war. Did you guys know that 353 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: all the Communists are Jews and atheists. That's some solid science. 354 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: This is a bad time for I had, but you know, 355 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: I love washing the taste of the horrific history of 356 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: American fascism out of my mouth. With the fine products 357 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: and services advertised on this show sold I could use 358 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: some products and or services run I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 359 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: well here they are and we're back and we're talking 360 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: about Nazi well fascists, yeah right, right right right, not 361 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: fast hashtag not all fascists. Let's start that. Let's get going. 362 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: So a number of major corporate leaders act the America 363 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: First Committee. The most prominent of them was J. C. Hormel, 364 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: the meat packing impresario whose company gave the world spam 365 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: that name. You're going to really enjoy this one. Cody 366 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: rich ass cloth magnate. William Regnery was another major financial 367 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: backer of America First. Does his name McNary sounds familiar 368 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: to you? William Rignery the second His son would go 369 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: on to fund the National Policy Institute, the fascist thing 370 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: tank run by Richard Spencer. That's good, we made it 371 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: the first connection today. Mine Robert E. Wood, chairman of 372 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: Sears Roebuck, was also a member. Henry Ford was for 373 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: a well to kick him off because the anti Semitism 374 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: he was just too far. I'll see ironic in a 375 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: moment now. The America First Committee would not truly reach 376 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: its maximum audience until they found their charismatic leader, the 377 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: only possible handed it for the role of American fure 378 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: Charles Lindbergh now born in n two. Charles Lindbergh had 379 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: been an air mail pilot until nine, when, at age 380 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: twenty five, he flew from New York to Paris and 381 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: was the very first human being to complete this thirty 382 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: three hour journey. He was one of the most famous 383 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: men in the world in nineteen thirty two when his 384 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: child was kidnapped and probably accidentally murdered. Lindbergh was young, handsome, rich, sympathetic, 385 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 1: and when he started giving speeches for the America First Movement, 386 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: people listened. In August nineteen forty, immediately after the Dunkirk evacuation, 387 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: Lindbergh stated quote, I believe that no outside influence could 388 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: solve the problems of European nations or bring them lasting peace. 389 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: They must work out their destiny as we must work 390 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: out ours. In the past, we have dealt with a 391 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: Europe dominated by England and France. In the future we 392 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: may have to deal with a Europe dominated by Germany. 393 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: You remember how when we vine and the problems of 394 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: European nations and Europe is still a war rived hell 395 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: hold today? Did you miss that? You think I may 396 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: have missed that did you miss that? It was just 397 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: in Europe. It seems like maybe American intervention actually kind 398 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: of worked out there. I don't know. I think we 399 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: just went to the places where in Russian we made 400 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: sure we went to only the places at were you 401 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: stayed away from the war zones in France. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. 402 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: So Lindberg's was great. It turns out when you kill 403 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: all the fascists, you can hive. Yeah. So thanks for that, Russia. Yeah, 404 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: so it's back. They went a little bit overboard, but 405 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: it's like, thank you, but don't let that go to 406 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: your head, you know. Yeah, but not that grateful. Yeah. Well, 407 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: well I'm grateful for that, but I'm pretty grateful for 408 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: the eight million Nazi soldiers they killed. I meant, you know, 409 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: big picture, Yeah, you get it. Yeah, continue with. The 410 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: story was a mixed bag, but mostly good. So Lindbergh 411 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: called Great Britain a war agitator and said, quote, it 412 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: is perfectly understandable that Britain, once the United States in 413 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: the war on her side, England, is now in a 414 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: desperate position. Her population is not large enough and her 415 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: armies not strong enough to invade the continent of Europe 416 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: and win the war she declared against Germany. He warned 417 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: his audience that America had been left with the debts 418 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: from World War One, and then he claimed, quote, if 419 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: it were not for her, hope that she can make 420 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: us responsible for the war financially. I believe England would 421 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: have negotiated a peace in Europe many months ago, and 422 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: we'll be better off doing so, found reasoning. But you guys, 423 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: see the brilliance there. Rather than advocating for dictatorship like 424 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: Coughlin and Smith and the Silver Shirts had done, or 425 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: advocating on behalf of Germany like the Bund had done, 426 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: Lindberg attacked Great Britain. Thanks to Hollywood. Today, English accents 427 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: are kind of like the that's like your your cheat 428 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: code for making someone see incredible. Find like a British 429 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: guy get Antony Hopkins to say, and we're like, yeah, 430 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: he's smart, incredible right. But starting in the fifteenth century, 431 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: the most prominent international stereotype of the English is that 432 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: they were all goddamn liars because they lied to everyone 433 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: about everything for three d years in order to conquer 434 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: the world. There was even a very common slur for 435 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: them in the day Perfidious Albion it arose in the 436 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: seventeen It's a beautiful slur. I mean it sounds like 437 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: a spell in Hary Potter. That it arose in the 438 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds as a French accusation I believe of English 439 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: dishonesty towards foreigners, because the British screw the French show 440 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: for a French screw the no one's nice or now. 441 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: It picked up in use during the Boer War of 442 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: eight nineteen hundred because of the concentration camps and genocide 443 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: of the board people. And if you listen to a 444 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: lot of Irish music, the particularly turn of the twentieth 445 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: century Irish political ballads, you will run into the phrase regularly. 446 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: The song Foggy Do, which is best cover, was done 447 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: by Senet O'Connor, was written sometime in nineteen nineteen after 448 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixteen East Rebellion, and it has probably the 449 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: most artistic use of the term when talking about the 450 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: first shots of the Irish Rebellion of nineteen sixteen. Oh 451 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: the night fell black and the rifles crack made perfidious 452 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: albion reel. Now this is important because at this time 453 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: in America, population about a hundred or so a million, 454 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: about twenty to thirty million Scottish, Irish and German descended people, 455 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: all of whom are very rightfully primed to think England's 456 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: lying about fucking anything. This is a smart play by 457 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: Charles Lindbergh. Don't love it, but get it worked. It works, 458 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: It's not it's not a dumb move, and it proved 459 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: to be a more effective strategy than calling for outright dictatorship. 460 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: So within like a couple of months, there were eight 461 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: hundred thousand Americans that had joined America verst You've got 462 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: like a million people who have signed on this movement 463 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: in a matter of months, the most like years to 464 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: take fiftulation. Yeah, that's like a percent of the population 465 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: in the course of a couple of months, just because 466 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: Lindbergh pops onto this train and it's building for this 467 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: whole time that we're talking about here. So this thing 468 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: is wildly popular. Now. Thank god, the British were spying 469 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: on us and this instant. We needed some spying on 470 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: some real bad stuff is going on. They put together 471 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: a dossier on the America First movement and what it 472 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: meant to the British government at this point, their whole 473 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: foreign policy was, in essence, get the Americans to help 474 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: the Nazis are going to take over Europe. So these 475 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: spies were terrified of America. First, they called it a 476 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: fundamentally American movement conducted on American lines, and the most 477 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: effective weapon at the disposal of the enemy for the 478 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: purpose of keeping the United States out of the war. Essentially, 479 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: Britain is the guy who cried wolf, but with conquering 480 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: in the other world and a violent, nightmarish regime. But 481 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: then they suddenly become less shitty, like ten years before. 482 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: These other guys are even worse. The wait, no, wait, wait, 483 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: wait for real. A couple hundred years ago we called 484 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: forty million Indians in a wildliers bonsible capitalistic venture. But 485 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: we're not that now. When we know, I'm like, oh god, 486 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: colonies and stuff. We were so we're so sorry, we really, 487 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: really really sorry. But these German lads, so the British 488 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: saw through these seemingly reasonable, respectable facade of America first, 489 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: and they said, these British spies wrote, it is the 490 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: raw material of American fascism. The present tactics and methods 491 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: of action of each movement reveal it as the American 492 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: fifth column, sewing racial hatred and a sentuating internal division. 493 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: This is the effect of its activity, and whether the 494 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: process is conscious or unconscious is irrelevant. So British Intelligence 495 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: divide the membership of America first into six categories. I 496 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: think you'll find this pretty interesting, y'all. Number one big 497 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: businessmen in Chicago, which is called the most important group. 498 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: Number two Republicans and leaders of the opposition to the 499 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: New Deal. Number three that pacifism of Quakers, intellectuals and 500 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: liberal philanthropists. Number four extreme left wing opposition to the 501 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: Roosevelt administration, including labor leader John L. Lewis and his 502 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: daughter who was also a prominent labor leader. Number five 503 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: the anti Semitic fascism of retired general the next Serviceman. 504 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: And number six emotional mothers. One of the big things 505 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: of this is they would bring on gold Star mothers 506 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: who lost their kids in World War One to say 507 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: we're we want to save American mothers and sons. This 508 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: is some very intelligent manipulation, really smart, really had their 509 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: act together. Now. Back in seven, Lindberg had been put 510 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: forward by a young Republican group as a potential member 511 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: of the GOP steering Committee. These young men were worried 512 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: that the Republican Party was quote hopelessly reactionary and an 513 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: incubator of fascism. Pretty pretty remarkable. It must have really 514 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: surprised these young Republicans when Charles Lindberg started hanging out 515 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: with the Nazis. He visited s Germany three times while 516 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: the Viewer was in power. The second time was in 517 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty eight, immediately after Christal knocked uh the Night 518 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: of Broken Glass, when Nazis took the streets and burnt 519 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: down synagogues, broke Jewish people, murdered people. It was horrible, right, 520 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: He's there like the night after, and he writes in 521 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: his diary, quote, I do not understand these riots on 522 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: the part of the Germans. It seems so contrary to 523 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: their sense of order and their intelligence. In other ways, 524 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: they undoubtedly had a difficult Jewish problem, But why is 525 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: it so necessary to handle it unreasonably? My admiration for 526 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: the Germans is constantly being dashed against some rocks such 527 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: as this. What is the object in this persecution of 528 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: the Jews? My god, there's a lot going on in 529 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: that paragraph. You've got so much. They have a Jewish 530 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: problem obviously, but taking it violently. Why can't we have 531 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: some sort of like non violent sort of like ethnic cleansing, 532 00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: but like not the non cleansing. I can't speak, can't 533 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: say it ten times, probably a good thing. He can't 534 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: say that. It's like my mouth shut down, just stopped 535 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: not letting those words out. So in nineteen forty one, 536 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: Lindbergh really stepped up his activism for America. First, he 537 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: started traveling around the country giving speeches, setting himself up 538 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: as the clear candidate in nineteen forty four and making 539 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: every argument he could for American neutrality. Until then, one 540 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: poll showed twenty six percent of Americans wanted to see 541 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: him given some high government office. Here's a quote from 542 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: Hitler's American friends. Throughout the spring, Lindbergh spoke to standing 543 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: room only venues, attacking Roosevelt an urging full American neutrality. 544 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: The President himself soon became convinced that Lindburg was a 545 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: fascist with dictatorial designs, and in late April, Roosevelt launched 546 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: a direct attack by comparing him to Southern sympathizing copperheads 547 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: during the Civil War and defeatists in George Washington's Army 548 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: at Valley Forge, Lindbergh, outraged, resigned his commission in the 549 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: Army Air Corps. Reserve crowds that his rallies continued to grow, 550 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: and in late May he packed Madison Square Garden with 551 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: more than twenty thousand people. Thousands more or listened on 552 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: loud speakers in the streets. The presence of BOOND members, 553 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: various Anti Semites, and other extremists was widely reported in 554 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: the press, including groups of Italian fascists and the Silver Shirts, 555 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: but the publicity was far from completely positive. Life magazine 556 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: observed that the audience had burst into deafening cheers for 557 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: even the smallest aspects of lindburg speech, including when he 558 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: mopped his brow with a handkerchief. An unnamed Lindberg associate 559 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: was quoted as referring to the phenomenon as fewer worship 560 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: the more Charles Lindberg spoke, the clear it became that 561 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: he was a goddamn racist. He stated that he worried 562 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: white America would be replaced by quote a pressing sea 563 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: of yellow, black and brown, and stated that if he 564 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: had to choose, he'd prefer his country alley with Nazi 565 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: Germany rather than Soviet Russia replacement. You say, yeah, weird, 566 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: new phrase. Weird. How a group of people in America 567 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: has been consistently worried about that for almost a century 568 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: now and it still hasn't. Yeah, white people still doing fine. Weird. Yeah, 569 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: it's weird that happened. It's coming, It's coming, It's coming. 570 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: It's coming. Why it's coming, It's coming, It's coming. So surely, 571 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: surely this is the year for the white genocide, the 572 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: hashtag by genocide. So some of Lendbergh's growing fascism probably 573 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: had to do with the friendship that he had made 574 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: with French surgeon and scientist Alexis Carrol. This that's where 575 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: things going in to direction. You guys are not Did 576 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: you predict that he was simultaneously while running for American 577 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: fear working on a project to become immortal with a 578 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: fascist French doctor prepared. I wasn't prepared. I wouldn't have predicted, 579 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: but I am not surprised. Now. Alexis Karl was a 580 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: Nobel Prize winner who had figured out how to transplant 581 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: human blood vessels, which is great. But he'd learned how 582 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: to do that because he wanted to turn the human 583 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: body and to quote, a machine with constantly reparable or 584 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: replaceable parts, so that rich white people, and only rich 585 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: white people, would live forever. Carol was a fascist and 586 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: a eugenicist who believed the planet was incumbent with people 587 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: who should be dead. So science. Lindbergh was a eugenicist too, 588 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: and since he was an engineer, he and Carol started 589 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: working on a pump designed to keep human organs alive 590 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: outside of their body. They actually invented it, and it's 591 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: a useful medical device, of course. Yeah. And of course 592 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: during their hours of close collaboration together, Carol ranted regularly 593 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: about the Jews and extolled the benefits of fascism. In 594 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: September nineteen forty one, Charles Lindbergh gave a speech in 595 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: Des Moines. Let read a couple of segments out of 596 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: this bad Boy nineteen timber Here's Charles Lucky Lindy quote. 597 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: National Post showed that when England and France declared war 598 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: on Germany and nineteen thirty nine, less than ten percent 599 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: of our population favorite a similar course for America. But 600 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: there were various groups of people here and abroad whose 601 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: interests and beliefs necessitated the involvement of the United States 602 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: in the war. I shall point out some of these 603 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: groups tonight and outline them methods of procedure. And doing this, 604 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: I must speak with the utmost frankness, for in order 605 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: to counteract their efforts, we must know exactly who they are. 606 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: The three most important groups who have been pressing this 607 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: country towards war are the British, the Jewish, and the 608 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: Roosevelt administration. He then went on to elaborate, no person 609 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: with a sense of dignity of mankind can condone the 610 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: persecution of the Jewish race in Germany, but no person 611 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: of honesty and vision can look at their pro war 612 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: policy here today without seeing the dangers involved in such 613 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: a policy, both for us and for them. Instead of 614 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: agitating for war, the Jewish groups in this country should 615 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: be opposing it in every possible way, for they will 616 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: be among the first to feel its consequences. Tolerance is 617 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: a virtue that depends upon peace and strength. History shows 618 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: that it cannot survive war and devastations. A few far 619 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: sighted Jewish people realize this and stand opposed to intervention, 620 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: but the majorities still do not. Their greatest danger to 621 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: this country lies in the large ownership and influence in 622 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our government. 623 00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: But also great performance. There goes the tolerant left wanting 624 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: to go to war with Nazi Germany. I just think 625 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: everyone should be allowed to speak and execute. It's pretty 626 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: incredibly believable, but super believable. Oh boy. Yeah. Also, don't 627 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: trust media or the movies because they're Jewish owned. Also, 628 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: it's worth noting that the last big public speech Hitler 629 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: gave before invading Poland, he stated that if the Jews 630 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: succeeded in, in his words, drawing the world into another war, 631 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: they'd be the first to suffer, which is exactly the 632 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: phrasing Lindbergh used a year later in this speech that's bonkers. 633 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: That speech that Hitler give is generally given as the 634 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: most direct evidence we have that he had planned the 635 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: Holocaust ahead of time, because again he didn't keep his 636 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: name tied to stuff. But like he's very clearly yeah 637 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: laying it out said almost the same thing. Oh my god, 638 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: and it's like for war. Yeah, yeah, the Jews that 639 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: let themselves get rounded murder there and who in Hollywood 640 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: at this time we're refusing to criticize Nazi Germany and 641 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: most of their movies because they were scared it would 642 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: whip up anti Jewish paranoia, which seems a lot more reasonable. 643 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: When you hear this ship, We're like, yeah, I get 644 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: why you were scared, right, yeah, all this, I mean 645 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: all the reactionary stuff like okay, yeah, you say that, 646 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: then you push people to the yeah. Yeah. Lindberg advised 647 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: Americans who got angry at news stories of horrific Nazi 648 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: atrocities to quote ask who owns and who influences the newspaper, 649 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: the news, picture, and radio. There was a great deal 650 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: of backlash to Lindberg's openly blaming the Jews as a 651 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: collective for trying to force America into a war. A 652 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,959 Speaker 1: poll conducted that same month found at seventy four percent 653 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: of Americans agreed that Nazi Germany needed to be destroyed 654 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: in order for the US to remain free and democratic. 655 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: The vast majority of Americans were consistent they would oppose 656 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: any suppression campaign aimed at Jewish Americans, but mose statistics 657 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: do not tell the whole story. Already, a survey taken 658 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: about people's intentions for the nineteen forty two midterm elections. 659 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: The last such survey before Pearl Harbor found that respondents 660 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: planned to vote Democrat, Republican, and eight percent Keep out 661 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: of War. This means if the Republicans and the Keep 662 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: out of War Party had allied, they could have potentially 663 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: won in forty two and presumably again forty four. And 664 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: it is worth noting that Wilkie, the Republican who had 665 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: run against Roosevelt during this after the des Moines speech, 666 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: basically said if Americans cannot deal with the current global 667 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: catastrophe without turning to racial hatred, we don't deserve to 668 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: have a democracy. The Republican speaking out vociferously against fascism 669 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: right after this speech, that's something we need. Yes, America 670 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: First very well could have won several seats in Congress, 671 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: and that could have you know, this is the kind 672 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: of thing that at this point in September there was 673 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: a good chance that Charles Lindberg could have become president. 674 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: Call it kept rolling. But then on December seventh, nineteen 675 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: forty one, the Empire of Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, the 676 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: US gotten to the war, and America First dissolved as 677 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: an organization. In December, Charles Lindberg even wound up flying 678 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: a few combat missions in the Pacific. World War two 679 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: went the way it did, and for the most part, 680 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: Americans forgot that a domestic fascist movement had ever once 681 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: earned the support of hundreds of thousands of American voters. 682 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: Most Americans, at least Vice President Henry A. Wallace never forgot, 683 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: and in nineteen forty four, when Hitler's Third Reich was 684 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: on its last legs, he wrote a description of American 685 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: fascism that is just as relevant eighty years later as 686 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: it was then. Quote. The American fascists are most easily 687 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact. Their 688 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: newspapers and propaganda carefully cultivate every fissure of disunity, every 689 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: crack in the common front against fascism. They use every 690 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: opportunity to impune democracy. Their final objective, towards which all 691 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: their deceit is directed, is to capture political power, so that, 692 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: using the power of the state and the power of 693 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: the markets simultaneously, they may keep the common man in 694 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: eternal subject Asian. I hate it. It's a real bummer. 695 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: Now there's a fun coded to the story, though, y'all 696 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: remember Lawrence Dennis. He had a secret, the intellectual founder 697 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: of American fascism had a secret that nobody knew at 698 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: the time. Spill the gossip. Now, you remember how he 699 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: was described as swarthy? Yeah, because he was a black 700 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: guy secretly secretly what. Yes, he had been born in 701 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: eighteen ninety two and the heavily segregated South. But since 702 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: he was able to pass for white at a certain point, 703 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: he decided to live his life that way because of 704 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: the obvious and massive benefits. Gerald Horne, who wrote a 705 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: book about Dennis called The Color of Fascism, doesn't know 706 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: if Dennis's wife even knew he wasn't white. His daughter 707 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: was never told. Now I found a good Guardian article 708 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 1: about this, and it includes a heartbreaking quote from Walter White, 709 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: a former head of the Double A CP in the 710 00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: late nineteen quote, every year, approximately twelve thousand white skin 711 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: negroes disappear, people whose absence cannot be explained by death 712 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: or immigration, Men and women who have decided that they 713 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: will be happier and more successful if they flee from 714 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: the prescription and humiliation which the American Color Line imposes 715 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: on them. The article also included a quote from Horn 716 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: trying to explain exactly why a black man in the 717 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: nineteen forties would line himself up with fascism. Quote, well, 718 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: you could see why he would think it was inevitable. 719 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: Fascism was a far greater threat to the US than communism, 720 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: ever was. Dennis had no faith in the white working class. 721 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: So if you believe it's going to happen, you have 722 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: one of two choices. You can fight against it, or 723 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: you can ride the wave. He decided to ride the wave, 724 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: and that was hard boiled cynicism and coldly calculating. M M. 725 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: You don't even know what to do with it. That's 726 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: how it started. That's how it started. I know how 727 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: to feel about it. I don't know what to do. 728 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: I know what to do with it. Yeah. I feel 729 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: like a lot of people should hear a lot of 730 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: a lot of the quotes that have been said that 731 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: have been read today. Yeah, yeah, if only would yeah 732 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: she send this to people should know about I mean, 733 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: I obviously have a vested interest in people listening to this. 734 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: I would like it if people would share this. Yeah, yeah, 735 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: I'll share it, thank you. Yeah. I could use some 736 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: products and services to wash the taste of it. Out 737 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: of my mouth. Yeah, it's just the kind of stuff that, 738 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: like everything lines up so frustratingly perfectly in a way 739 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 1: that kind of makes you feel like you're going insane. Yeah, 740 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: it makes it feel crazy, you know, Like I feel 741 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: that more and more because the polarization is obviously growing, Yeah, 742 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: and the people in power are fueling it and uh 743 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: supporting it and using it to manipulate people. And then 744 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: they're supposedly intellectual people who are riding that wave and 745 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: totally ignore everything in a way that Yeah, it makes 746 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: you feel kind of crazy. Absolutely. I mean for a 747 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: long time. I'm more used to it now, but then 748 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 1: sanity it feels deeper, like more chaotical, a bad nightmare 749 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: or something. But at the very beginning, especially, there were 750 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: so many times I would be like, it's not me right, 751 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: I'm not wrong, and that's yeah, you see this, and 752 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: it's there's something very telling and very telling about America 753 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: and the fact that the first fascist intellectual we have 754 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: was not a guy who was wildly dedicated to the 755 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: principles of fascism, because he was not. Dennis's attitude was 756 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: always this is inevitable, and this is probably better than 757 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: the other one. And the reason he thought it was 758 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: better than the other one probably is because he was, like, 759 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: I know white people in America, they're going to choose 760 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: fascism before they choose communism. So I want to get 761 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: on the right side of the ship so I don't 762 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: get murdered. Right, It's not necessarily this one's better than 763 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: the other. It's just this one is more likely because 764 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: of where we are, because I know how Yeah. Yeah, 765 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: and he's not wrong. He was not wrong. Yeah, I 766 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: think yeah, I mean I think we see that a lot. 767 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: And like I said, like I see this in conversation 768 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: sometimes where it's like, oh, you literally would choose that 769 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: instead of the other, or even like like you choose 770 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: that instead of democracy if you could, Yeah, because you 771 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: haven't heard all these quotes that are literally exactly exactly 772 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: how you're thinking is exactly. It's it's so on the nose. 773 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: We like oftentimes joke about like, oh, it's like watching 774 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: a TV show that's poorly written there like oh, we're 775 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 1: all in a simulation. But that does have and I think, 776 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: a negative effect on people's psyche, and it really does 777 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: make you feel like, how can you be a prominent 778 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 1: figure that has a huge audience and influence over people, 779 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 1: sometimes with like a national audience and millions of people 780 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: watching you or listening to you, where you blatantly ignore 781 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: facts and you push this kind of thing and frame 782 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 1: it in a way that forces people to either ignore 783 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: this stuff or not know about it, and like protect 784 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: this knowledge in this history that illustrates what we're experience 785 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,240 Speaker 1: literally as precious as life itself, because it represents millions 786 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: of lost lives when people did not heed the warning 787 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 1: signs the last time this all happened. Yeah, that's still 788 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: a thing that shocks me. Continue to grapple with I 789 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: can see missing the warning signs the first time this happens, 790 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: or like just for the general population, like, oh, I 791 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: didn't know I was going along. You can't anymore. You 792 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: can't say that this isn't happening. You can't say that 793 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't have potentially disastrous Well, it is happening. And 794 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: if the only media you watches Fox and when the 795 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: Proud Boys are beating up gay people in the streets, 796 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: their headline is an he brought a sword ken and 797 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: it was a fake sword that he was using to 798 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: reenact the execution of a socialist politician in Japan by 799 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: a fascist there it is. That's the stuff at the 800 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: Metropolitan Republican Club of New York, and like it makes 801 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: you feel crazy, and it kind of makes you feel 802 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: helpless of like your like not kind of like you're 803 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: shouting into a void and the people aren't thing too 804 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: literally just like what you just said, because they're making 805 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: money and they want more cool stuff. That's the been 806 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: Shapiro's and the fucking like idealogues who aren't fascists but 807 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 1: pushed people towards fascism, the Tucker Carlson's and whatnot. It's 808 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: just about money. Yeah, And you could see there was 809 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: like a half a minute there in the middle of 810 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: all this where Glenn Beck had an opportunity to like 811 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: be like, oh, I have aired terrible. I see what 812 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: I did, I see what I did. What kind of 813 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: started and then decided to make money again. Of course 814 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 1: the money is good. Yeah, it's not. It's lucrative to 815 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: pretend to be not a grifter here. Well, if there's 816 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: one thing America has always been better at than anyone 817 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: else in history, it is a goddamn grift. We are 818 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: the fucking grifter kings of the word. Absolutely, I mean, 819 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: that's why we got the president we got. Yeah, you're 820 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: the guy. We're the fucking grifter nation and you're the 821 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: king of grifters. You did it, even though, really, if 822 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: we wanted to elect the king of grifters, we would 823 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: have elected out Round Hubbard, who would have been sure, 824 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: maybe not a better president, but a different one, a 825 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: different one. Different. He would spend a lot of money 826 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: in our navy, I can tell you that much. Oh yeah, yeah, 827 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 1: get out with international water waters now, all right, unbelievable. 828 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 1: Oh god, check us out, check us out. We got 829 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: some more news on YouTube. Check out our Patreon, our podcast, 830 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: even more news on all the podcast things, Twitter, some 831 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: more news. My individual one is Dr Mr Cody D 832 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: R M I S T E R C or do 833 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: you want I have to spell it out because you 834 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: can be doctor just really like CT you know you 835 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: never know. Yeah, you hit yourself to that wagon and 836 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: now you gotta stick with it. Can't change those can't 837 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: change it. And uh what he said, because I do 838 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: those things with him and except I have my own 839 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: Twitter and it's my name, Katie Stole. There was a 840 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: lot of eloquence on displaying both readier shows are called 841 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: even more news and some more news, and we recommend 842 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: you checking out. Do check out some more news and 843 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 1: some news, even more news, even more, even more news. 844 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: So many titles to keep tracking. I have a show too. 845 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 1: I've forgotten the title, but you know what you clicked 846 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: on it, so listen to the next one when it 847 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: happens next week. You can find us on the internet 848 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: at behind the Bastards dot com. You can find us 849 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: on Twitter at ad bastards pod or Instagram at the 850 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: same thing that I said before, but for Instagram and 851 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: on Twitter it could have just said ad Bastards pot again. 852 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: But then I did. You can find me at I right, 853 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 1: okay on Twitter buy a shirt from te Public so 854 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 1: that I can fill a bunker. Yeah, not like, but 855 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm stockpile rations, guys, Yeah, stockpile a number of things. Stockpiling. 856 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 1: We got all these millionaire stockpiling stuff and all these 857 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: like kind of crazy folk stockpiling stuff. Let's all a 858 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 1: couple of months of perishable food. That's not crazy, that's 859 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: not that crazy person thing to do. And doune a 860 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: bunch of reasons it could be useful to have a 861 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 1: couple months of food. Well, you also got a prep 862 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,479 Speaker 1: for that big one. Sure big quake keeps some water 863 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 1: on hand, both of those. Maybe everything's melting. Everything melting. Guys, 864 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: be scared, be angry, and then be best. I was 865 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 1: gonna say, drink to relieve the stress. But there are 866 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: other drugs. There's a lot of great drugs out there. 867 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: A lot of America is really bullish on opiates. Seems 868 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: like there's no downside to that drugs. I haven't I 869 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: haven't read any of the reporting on this. It may 870 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: I can tell it has something that happened with that. 871 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,479 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. This is a real letdown. Guy. Now, 872 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: this was the letdown, not everything the past two hours. 873 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: I just thought if there was one thing I could trust, 874 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: it was Perdu Pharmaceuticals. And oh yeah, that's another episode. 875 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 1: I think that's heart breaking. Well maybe I'll research that, 876 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: look into that until next week when we will be 877 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: talking about god knows what else but something terrible and 878 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: someone terrible. I'm Robert Evans. This has been behind the bastards, 879 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: and I love about a four week percent of you 880 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 1: h