Speaker 1: No Willian, no doctor.
Speaker 2: All right, not so much energy now.
Speaker 3: Know.
Speaker 1: Conserve you have to conserve. Preserve.
Speaker 3: Wait, we can do a roll starter. Let me see
Speaker 3: did themors turn her location off with me?
Speaker 1: Now that I know?
Speaker 3: That's that's a see it now they even have your location?
Speaker 3: You don't even know what the mess was?
Speaker 1: Crazy? You don't even know where she at right now?
Speaker 1: No location found? I used to have it? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: turn it on on?
Speaker 2: Did you turn it off a while ago?
Speaker 1: For what?
Speaker 2: The fucker? I don't know to know where I'm at?
Speaker 1: You think I just be like looking at them.
Speaker 2: The only person with my location?
Speaker 1: You turn off everybody for everybody? Okay?
Speaker 3: I thought I feel better now, yeah, way better? I thought,
Speaker 3: Like specifically, it was like, nah, you can't have it?
Speaker 4: Is that because we were just told my micro cheating
Speaker 4: off air? Turning off your location a micro cheat?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is that considered like if your significant other turns off
Speaker 4: the location?
Speaker 1: Is that like micro cheating?
Speaker 2: No, because there's no one involved in the micro cheating.
Speaker 5: There's micro cheating has to involve another person's No, what
Speaker 5: am I cheating on?
Speaker 1: What are you turning your location of for?
Speaker 2: I'm single and my ship off right now?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, he's saying in a relationship.
Speaker 5: But I'm what I'm saying, you can just turn it
Speaker 5: off because sometimes you just don't want to.
Speaker 4: Be fucking found by its significant other, by anybody. Hide
Speaker 4: and see what's significant?
Speaker 1: Yeah magnificant others said that to you, how would you feel?
Speaker 2: Never let them know your next move.
Speaker 1: Like your boyfriend, your life partner, Never let your teammates
Speaker 1: your next is crazy, yo, you my boyfriend and all that,
Speaker 1: But like, nah, you and know what I'm about.
Speaker 2: To do now to keep you guessing guessing? That is
Speaker 2: turn it off your location.
Speaker 5: And I've had I've had people have my location and
Speaker 5: then turn it off like they were like you, I
Speaker 5: have your location? You sure you want me to have it?
Speaker 5: Just because when I'm mad at you, turn that bitch
Speaker 5: right off.
Speaker 1: The game. The things we do now is just so fun.
Speaker 5: Mind, I'm sitting in the crib chill and eating a
Speaker 5: pint of ice cream. But Nah, E text me and said, wi,
Speaker 5: you turn your location off.
Speaker 4: See baby, she likes to start fires. You would be
Speaker 4: like a little pirate. I didn't start fire, but that's
Speaker 4: what you do. But that's what you do relationships, Like
Speaker 4: you'll do something like, I know he gonna start panicking
Speaker 4: or tripping if I turn this location, or if he's
Speaker 4: gonna start thinking I'm boom by whatever. Right, I'm in
Speaker 4: the house in a pint of ice, can watch the TV,
Speaker 4: but I want him to be panicking wherever he at.
Speaker 4: You like to do things like that.
Speaker 5: If you give me a sleepless night, I owe you
Speaker 5: several Hm.
Speaker 1: That's sounds like that's in the moment with that's on
Speaker 1: the moment on the wall, like with interest. Or it
Speaker 1: can't just be an eye for an eye.
Speaker 5: Nah, ain't an eye for eye, bitch.
Speaker 1: I gotta preserve I gotta preserve the energy. Chill man.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I have a bitter outlook to the location thing,
Speaker 3: because once a girl explained to me that she's switched
Speaker 3: her location from her iPad and left.
Speaker 1: It at home, like with her eye cloud.
Speaker 3: I was texting her iPad, but then she could leave
Speaker 3: with her phone and the location would stay with the iPad.
Speaker 3: I need the IT guy to figure that shit out.
Speaker 3: But she's like, yeah, girls, we do it all the time.
Speaker 3: So that's why I'm the location thing, Like, don't even
Speaker 3: we don't even need to do that because I'm already
Speaker 3: going in not trusting it.
Speaker 1: It's tough being in relationships, man.
Speaker 5: Not if you in relationships with faithful people. If you're
Speaker 5: a good person, good shit happens to you.
Speaker 1: But who's faithful though? There's any people that are faithful?
Speaker 4: What are yet in the world? Because they ain't in
Speaker 4: this room, right, Oh, don't do that. Don't put that
Speaker 4: on me. Rory maybe, but don't why we put it
Speaker 4: on me?
Speaker 1: Put that on Rory but not me. Everyone in this
Speaker 1: room is single, though. How do you know I'm single?
Speaker 2: I don't how we know he don't text Cole? How
Speaker 2: we know he like, come.
Speaker 1: On now, baby?
Speaker 4: He's so mad. She don't know why we text? I
Speaker 4: know who you don't be texting? Who don't be texting?
Speaker 2: I might I know who you texted, I know who
Speaker 2: you don't.
Speaker 1: We don't figure out.
Speaker 4: Let me text Jamaine for baby D one time. So
Speaker 4: she could be like, oh ship word, Well he.
Speaker 3: Just text savvy. We're gonna find a way. We'll hack
Speaker 3: your ye cloud. We'll figure it out. Another password is
Speaker 3: Marca Fella's finest to to five.
Speaker 1: To five.
Speaker 2: My big brother was big brother five.
Speaker 4: That's my password, baby, my big brother, that's my password.
Speaker 1: Look at the password y'all putting on me. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can see that.
Speaker 2: Oh god, Maw is a fasting.
Speaker 5: So if you see him laughing and stopped himself from laughing,
Speaker 5: it's because he weak.
Speaker 4: Right now, Yeah, I didn't. I didn't wake up for
Speaker 4: this morning, so hmm, I didn't eat. So now I'm
Speaker 4: on my whatever I had last night, That's what I'm on.
Speaker 3: Right. And you had some tummy problems the day before. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you went into Ramadan like that's just perfect.
Speaker 4: Deal actually because it's like you get the fast, you
Speaker 4: get the comic whatever in your system, get it out,
Speaker 4: flush all that out.
Speaker 1: But it's a I.
Speaker 4: Can't be like today, I gotta I got to extra
Speaker 4: like preserve my energy differently today.
Speaker 1: Did did you do Ramain last year? Uh? Did? I?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think I did. I think
Speaker 1: I did it year before that. Yeah, because I know,
Speaker 1: I definitely know. This is the first time you've done
Speaker 1: it when you've been on this podcast. That's great.
Speaker 3: Last year, well, I think that's great. And everyone shouts
Speaker 3: everyone celebrating Rabadin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 3: It can also be an annoying time for people as well.
Speaker 3: My dad wanted to go down into Postland, I said, Durren, Ramadan, don't. Well,
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be the fun that you think it's
Speaker 3: gonna be.
Speaker 1: Durren Robin. I mean it's cool, man, Ramadan is a
Speaker 1: great time. No, I think it's incredible.
Speaker 3: But if you're going trying to go to Mexico to
Speaker 3: have fun with people that celebrate Ramadan, you're not gonna have.
Speaker 4: The fun that you think. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 4: not it's like fun. No, it's just a different time.
Speaker 4: It's time for being still and focused and yeah, you
Speaker 4: know things like that, baby did you do?
Speaker 1: You should are fast with me? That should faster? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 1: Why until March nineteen? Yeah? What I'm faster from anything.
Speaker 4: You just pray for, you know, clarity and whatever you want,
Speaker 4: you know, whatever you may be have going on energy
Speaker 4: in your life that you want, you know, it's just
Speaker 4: that's what it's for. It's kind of rescinding yourself sun
Speaker 4: up to sundown. Yeah, it's not bad I think about it.
Speaker 4: I mean I've done you fasted a day without even
Speaker 4: trying before, you've definitely gotten up, didn't eat nothing and
Speaker 4: didn't eat until the summer.
Speaker 5: Oh no, for sure, And then I've done Daniel fast
Speaker 5: like multiple times. So I usually started a month the
Speaker 5: month awful one. Yeah, but that that's a significant amount
Speaker 5: of time, and the majority takes place. The majority of
Speaker 5: it takes place during March my birthday month.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sometimes three April three twenty six when you're
Speaker 4: seventy six, very all you remember twenty Well.
Speaker 1: I'm nine twenty six, and now I can't forget your birth.
Speaker 2: Oh I have Mall's half birthday, has pages mom's birthday?
Speaker 1: Yes, me and entered on the same day, same.
Speaker 4: Year, about the say, same dance year. Peter's mom was
Speaker 4: born the same day, same year.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think you should celebrate Ramadan as well, Peach.
Speaker 3: We can figure out what we want to give up
Speaker 3: for Lent whenever you're ready.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 5: You know LNT started though he was been supposed to
Speaker 5: figure out what you wanted to give up.
Speaker 3: He gave up lint for ninety He gave up lint
Speaker 3: for lent. Lent is just really just white Ramanan definite, y'all.
Speaker 3: We can't have nothing, boy, I tell you, boy, we
Speaker 3: can't have nothing without y'all coming here. Y'all, come, we'll
Speaker 3: do lint here, Come the Roman Catholics like, oh, I
Speaker 3: like that thing. You guys do it?
Speaker 4: And Lent is always white, you know that you ever
Speaker 4: see lent like you never see black link.
Speaker 2: Before, like black link.
Speaker 1: Who's seen blacklint? Depends the fit? Yeah, well it does.
Speaker 3: It's this this material. I mean it's brown, but you
Speaker 3: can get them in black. There's there's black lint on these. Yeah. Anyways,
Speaker 3: how's everyone is?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Week better? Uh maul?
Speaker 3: We have not gotten a single day off of recording
Speaker 3: this week. No man, what we do, baby, this is
Speaker 3: what we do Tuesday. Outside of the Prints podcast that
Speaker 3: we're producing, we did go on Maths podcast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout the math hot for and guys at the
Speaker 4: shop man had a good time, good conversation with the
Speaker 4: Fellas man trying to.
Speaker 1: Like kick it with you know, a barber shop full
Speaker 1: of the Fellas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was one of those environments where we chopped
Speaker 3: it up for two hours before we got on camera
Speaker 3: and then four hours after we stopped recording. It was
Speaker 3: one of those days we didn't leave to about two
Speaker 3: in the morning something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was. It was so late.
Speaker 3: I had to go through Staten Island get home. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's how you know. That's how you know. It's it's
Speaker 3: like the Arizanto. Yeah, he's going, man to see the crowd.
Speaker 1: There we go, let's do it. But yeah, thank thank
Speaker 1: you the math.
Speaker 3: I don't know the exact date, but I know he
Speaker 3: is putting out pretty soon. So so it was a
Speaker 3: lot of fun. It was a lot of tequila flowing.
Speaker 3: It was it was nice to.
Speaker 1: Be in like like real real New York I'm.
Speaker 3: Not gonna say where he was, but like, that's those
Speaker 3: people have lived on that block for seventy five years.
Speaker 1: It's real New Yorkers, real New Yorkers.
Speaker 3: It was cool to be out there. You got a
Speaker 3: little heated at one point. Didn't not heed it.
Speaker 1: He hated.
Speaker 3: That's the wrong word.
Speaker 1: I didn't think.
Speaker 3: I didn't think that Jada versus Drake Conbo would get
Speaker 3: you off your square.
Speaker 1: Look at the.
Speaker 2: Covers, y'all need better ship to talk about.
Speaker 1: No, we were just.
Speaker 4: Talking about, you know, because obviously it's it's rappers in
Speaker 4: the room. It's guys that just love hip hop, so obviously,
Speaker 4: you know, you start having those conversations and they landed
Speaker 4: on and this is when I like, like I could
Speaker 4: feel like my soul kind.
Speaker 1: Of leaving the room a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, somebody said, Jadakiss has two classic albums and
Speaker 4: Drake has none.
Speaker 1: And at that moment I knew.
Speaker 4: I said, you know what, I get it that life,
Speaker 4: in that moment, it's crazy, baby D. The things that
Speaker 4: bring clarity in that moment, just hearing Jadakiss has two
Speaker 4: classic albums and Drake has none. In that moment, I
Speaker 4: thought to myself, Okay, this this makes sense because now
Speaker 4: I understand more than ever that everybody is just living
Speaker 4: in their own world. Yeah, welcome, Like we can sit
Speaker 4: here right now, BABYD. Watch the same movie, but we're
Speaker 4: gonna feel different. Were gonna see the movie differently. We're
Speaker 4: gonna receive the message in the movie differently.
Speaker 2: You said Scarface was a bad movie. I think your.
Speaker 4: Scarface one of the most overrated movies ever. But you
Speaker 4: know what I get it. I'm in this era I'm
Speaker 4: in now. I'm going to start respecting people's bubbles. Your
Speaker 4: own world. That's your world. That's what y'all do in
Speaker 4: your world. That's how y'all receive things in your world.
Speaker 4: I have to start respecting. I do a bad job
Speaker 4: at not respecting people's worlds.
Speaker 3: This I mean, this is a breakthrough. We should make
Speaker 3: this a clip. Yeah, matter how long have we been
Speaker 3: trying to explain Tom All that he lives in his
Speaker 3: own bubble. Not everyone sees thing podcasting career, you've been
Speaker 3: trying to tell me your bubble.
Speaker 1: Listen, I apologize, y'all right.
Speaker 3: It's a Jada Kiss versus Drake to get here. Look
Speaker 3: at the things, look at the things that breed clarity.
Speaker 3: I said, the world that's never been had before.
Speaker 4: I said, you know what, I get it in this moment,
Speaker 4: this moment of clarity, I understand. So I apologize for
Speaker 4: pushing my world into your world.
Speaker 3: Baby, du put moment of clarity jay Z.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a moment of clarity, this moment of honesty. Right,
Speaker 4: the world of feel your truth, the world to feel
Speaker 4: my from a hard knock light like this. Listen, if
Speaker 4: you feel like Jada Kiss has two classic albums and
Speaker 4: Drake has none?
Speaker 1: Who am I do? Well?
Speaker 3: Once again, I was kinda and this is just good
Speaker 3: promo for the Math podcast. We don't have to get
Speaker 3: away the entire thing. But once again I was bubble crossing.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, in the circles and there's
Speaker 3: like that program, Yeah, because I think Kiss has classic
Speaker 3: albums and I think Rake has classic albums. But that
Speaker 3: room was very split. I was the only one that
Speaker 3: was on the border of like, why can't we all
Speaker 3: just get like that was very divided. They're both they're
Speaker 3: both incredible. MC's right, very split, and.
Speaker 4: I just felt like at that moment, I turned into
Speaker 4: like one of the you know the barber the hair
Speaker 4: chart that's hanging on a wall and barber shop.
Speaker 1: I was that in that moment.
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, Kiss, stoic, I get it. Listen,
Speaker 4: I'm just listening. I'm observing, and I'm trying to understand
Speaker 4: what everybody is saying and realize that our experience on
Speaker 4: this head planet Earth is all different.
Speaker 3: But respectfully, if you walked into that barbershop, I think
Speaker 3: one of the first things you would think was in
Speaker 3: this bubble, it looks like somebody would say Kiss has
Speaker 3: classic albums, but Drake doesn't. It felt like we walked
Speaker 3: into that bubble to begin with. That didn't shock me
Speaker 3: as much as you know, and I don't think you
Speaker 3: think it's crazy that someone would say Jada Kiss has
Speaker 3: classic solo albums. I think it was the follow up
Speaker 3: of like with that said, nothing was the same as
Speaker 3: not a classic Drake has nothing.
Speaker 4: That's so when you say you were like, you know,
Speaker 4: I would split they both do. I'm not mad at that,
Speaker 4: but I just was like, okay, jadan' to Drake none,
Speaker 4: all right, dig shout out my nigga, Gucci.
Speaker 2: I know what that barbershop look like, and I never
Speaker 2: even went in it, Like.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about the actual barbershop, talking about the
Speaker 5: people in it.
Speaker 2: They had sneakers, color ways, everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a lot of Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was New York. It was New York throwing dude
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 3: And I mean because it was a quote unquote like
Speaker 3: the real deep Outer Borough experience. I was not aware
Speaker 3: that that Math rolled around with that many tough whites. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Math got all the white goons in New York City
Speaker 3: behind him. I'd be scared of Math. Outside of Math.
Speaker 3: We've we've seen how Math operates on his own. He
Speaker 3: doesn't need a lot of help. But knowing that you
Speaker 3: got the tough whites behind you too, Yeah, I don't know, man, Ma,
Speaker 3: that made Math tens I'm scarier.
Speaker 1: But that's what hip hop.
Speaker 4: Hip hop it does though you know it brings, it
Speaker 4: brings all you know, coaches together, all races together. It's just,
Speaker 4: you know something that we all, especially in New York City,
Speaker 4: say hip hop. It's a hip hop world, New York City.
Speaker 3: And anytime you run into somebody in that that part
Speaker 3: of Brooklyn with fighting Irish tattoos on their neck.
Speaker 1: You should be petrified. Yeah, absolutely, like really scared. Shout
Speaker 1: out the.
Speaker 4: Math how and the guys at the shop man shout
Speaker 4: dutchy Yeah, everybody?
Speaker 1: Did you yell at them?
Speaker 2: How you were yelling at me?
Speaker 1: Yell?
Speaker 5: If I was looking, if I would have looked at
Speaker 5: you and said, Drake has doesn't have any classic albums,
Speaker 5: which I do not believe. I believe Drake has classic albums.
Speaker 5: But if I was to look at you or say
Speaker 5: that you yelled at me?
Speaker 1: Not Yeah, see, baby D, I'm yelling, but not in
Speaker 1: a like way. If I've ever yelled at you, baby D,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You know we record this.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. If I've ever I apologize. I wasn't yelling
Speaker 4: at you.
Speaker 1: I was yelling. I would know I was.
Speaker 4: I wasn't yelling at her Bubbles I was yelling at
Speaker 4: the conversation.
Speaker 1: It was the conversation.
Speaker 4: It wasn't you. You were a part of the conversation,
Speaker 4: but it wasn't you that I was yelling at. And
Speaker 4: if you've ever felt like I was yelling at you,
Speaker 4: baby dy, I apologize.
Speaker 1: I was not yelling at you. I would never yell
Speaker 1: at you.
Speaker 4: Today's day three, Ramadan, Yeah, I don't know what day
Speaker 4: is it, Day two, day two?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see where mall's at day seven with all
Speaker 3: this this kumbayash.
Speaker 1: No, man, it's hard to get more.
Speaker 2: I think the day fifteen might be his breaking.
Speaker 4: For Listen, I understand, I understand, I get it. I'm
Speaker 4: respecting people's bubbles. That's what I'm doing from now on. Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm not mad at I respect your bubble or respect
Speaker 4: baby they's bubble page.
Speaker 1: I respect your love your bubble. Hey, no, it's not
Speaker 1: he's got a bubble.
Speaker 4: How y'all make it's me and Michael Jordan that y'all
Speaker 4: make it weird about why.
Speaker 1: Michael was weird. It wasn't weird, man, y'all are just weird.
Speaker 1: The world is weird. That's sorry.
Speaker 4: I'm respecting people's bubbles. Your bubble is different from Michael
Speaker 4: Jordan's bubble. Yeah, you're more of a Nascar bubbles. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's what I got. I totally respect the bubbles.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: How are you celebrating this this weekend with Ramadan?
Speaker 4: Well, this week it's my nephew's birthday. Shout out to
Speaker 4: my nephew. I can't call him nugget no more. He
Speaker 4: told me I can't call him nugget because he'll be
Speaker 4: ten now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I got to call it that now there.
Speaker 4: Now his name is, I got to call him big Ant.
Speaker 4: So shout out to my nephew, big Ant, Happy birthday.
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 4: I'm spending spending the week with my nephew. He's probably
Speaker 4: he's the most mature ten year old. He's probably going
Speaker 4: to go fishing and go play golf.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I've seen I've seen him on Instagram playing golf.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wants to. He's probably gonna want to do that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so I'll probably do that with him. I'll
Speaker 4: probably just go fishing and play some golf with him
Speaker 4: and you driving, No, I'm flying down. I will never
Speaker 4: drive the Virginia again in my life. Once I've seen
Speaker 4: how so I quick That flight was thirty seven minutes.
Speaker 4: I'm not sitting on the road for six hours.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not doing that. Yeah, d MV traffic, it's
Speaker 1: never do that.
Speaker 3: The man was just saying that because she was saying,
Speaker 3: if there was, like, you know, an available seat, she
Speaker 3: would go down to Virginia to.
Speaker 1: Think she was inquired like do you think she was
Speaker 1: just asking what bubble are you going down to see it?
Speaker 1: In the DMV? What bubble are you going down there
Speaker 1: to see? Virginia? You're going bubble seeing? We can go
Speaker 1: see bubbles in the in the d n V. I
Speaker 1: love the bubbles down there. She has she has family
Speaker 1: in Virginia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we all got a family Virginia. We all black,
Speaker 4: we all got family.
Speaker 1: To know.
Speaker 2: Everybody got family and reason all.
Speaker 4: Got family in Virginia. Definitely. So yeah, that's what I'm
Speaker 4: doing this week. I'll be with my nephew's ory. Don't
Speaker 4: have none, o.
Speaker 1: You got family Virginia, go down.
Speaker 3: I had one great uncle in Richmond, Virginia, and now
Speaker 3: you go. It was the old I don't even how
Speaker 3: then he ended up there. That's he wasn't like with
Speaker 3: the rest of it. Was he just went there. I
Speaker 3: don't even like he was sending cars and share I'm like,
Speaker 3: how co like that he lives in Richmond, Virginia.
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's okay, that's all right down there. I
Speaker 4: think he's dead now. He's the big He was my
Speaker 4: great uncle.
Speaker 1: He was old.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I never got to like hang
Speaker 3: with him in Richmond.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I do love the state of Virginia. Virginia's
Speaker 1: a great time. Love Virginia. Yeah, that should be fun. Then, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 4: Man, I'll be on the golf course hopefully it's the
Speaker 4: weather is all right, and fishing and you know whatever else.
Speaker 4: Big Ant once I gotta call him big An. I
Speaker 4: got to call my nephew, my ten year old nephew,
Speaker 4: big Ant.
Speaker 1: This is crazy.
Speaker 3: I love that Money's in town this weekend. I know
Speaker 3: Doggy is a release party on Saturday. I was actually
Speaker 3: gonna say to come with me to that, but I
Speaker 3: know you're gonna.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Heed, Yeah, when when is it Sunday? Right? I
Speaker 1: think it's Saturday? He text me already.
Speaker 4: I was like, damn, Like, and it's it's funny because
Speaker 4: Foggy we always do that like when he's in New York,
Speaker 4: like he has something to show.
Speaker 1: He hit me.
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, why do we keep Like one time
Speaker 4: he hit me? He was in New York and we
Speaker 4: was in d C. You from here?
Speaker 1: How you go up? And we we now we in
Speaker 1: DC like this weekend.
Speaker 4: So shout out to Foggy though, like he definitely hit
Speaker 4: me and invited me to his It's the first album.
Speaker 3: No, his project actually comes out on the twenty seventh,
Speaker 3: with no due respect? Is the title the next next Friday? Yeah,
Speaker 3: next Friday. But he's doing the New York run right now. Uh.
Speaker 3: He put out the features today for a blog, did
Speaker 3: rather lisha key Swizz, Ariy Lennox, Larry June, Harry Fraud,
Speaker 3: and your guy John Legend. It's a big a lester
Speaker 3: for for a first album.
Speaker 4: I'm respecting John Legends, but respecting John Legend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm excited for his project. We also get
Speaker 3: Baby Keen tomorrow. I mean, if you're listening to this,
Speaker 3: it is out now, Casino. We made our predictions, but
Speaker 3: that's what I'm excited for.
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to the Keem. I'm looking looking forward
Speaker 4: to see what he did with this project. Like you
Speaker 4: guys spoke to her. He is an artist that I
Speaker 4: think we all anticipate his trajectory, what he's gonna do,
Speaker 4: what he's going to sound like. So yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be interesting to listen to that if you're well when
Speaker 4: you're hearing this.
Speaker 1: We we are currently listening to that.
Speaker 3: We also get which I'm just out the loop and
Speaker 3: my apologies to hip hop in general. Larry June, Currency
Speaker 3: and The Alchemist are putting out album an oh.
Speaker 1: I didn't call it the Spiral Staircases, but I just
Speaker 1: think I got the Loop man some more luxurious music
Speaker 1: and luxurious rat.
Speaker 3: Once I was ran out of Twitter, man, I feel
Speaker 3: like I missed a lot of releases because, like my
Speaker 3: Instagram algorithms aren't really like the way my Twitter algorithms were.
Speaker 3: Twitter had was way more music hip hop related than what.
Speaker 1: No. It's honestly all kids shit and otters. It's otters
Speaker 1: and kidshit lotters. That's my favorite. Found the way to
Speaker 1: my algorithm.
Speaker 4: Like the people that own otters and just go swimming
Speaker 4: with them and just feed them like frozen fish sticks.
Speaker 1: Love them. I respect the outer bubbles.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I know Demeris know this about me.
Speaker 3: But you know that is my favorite animal, like lifelong.
Speaker 3: I have like a weird odd obsession. Really yeah, no,
Speaker 3: it's like really like one of my hobbies is just
Speaker 3: watching otters. Like I'll go to Staten Island Zoo in
Speaker 3: summertime and just watch the otters. I know it's kind
Speaker 3: of serial killer baby. I've even like research. You know,
Speaker 3: you can own a hotter in New Jersey. I just
Speaker 3: don't like with my bathtub. It's just not it's an
Speaker 3: urban environment. I wouldn't want to do that to an ad.
Speaker 3: It'd be like I'd be a good otter dad. But no,
Speaker 3: I just I feel like an otter needs some more space. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but no, that's that's a dream of mine, is to
Speaker 3: own an art like one day.
Speaker 1: I never knew that about you. I'm really in the otters.
Speaker 4: Wow, all right, respect to the out of Bubbles.
Speaker 1: That's mostly my algorithm. I respect it. Listen, man, I
Speaker 1: love otters. Very unique animal for sure.
Speaker 5: Do you think twenty twenty six has the potential to
Speaker 5: be close to twenty sixteen with like me music, because
Speaker 5: we're getting some rap.
Speaker 4: We're getting some really good music, and we got some
Speaker 4: good R and B as well, I'm not mad at
Speaker 4: the start. The twenty twenty six is off too. As
Speaker 4: far as the music, I'm not mad at that. Like
Speaker 4: it's a lot of dope music out right now, Like
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 1: But to say twenty sixteen to me, that's like what
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 3: Like you see Haley's comment every fucking twenty generations or
Speaker 3: something like, I just don't know if you're ever gonna
Speaker 3: get all the stars pun intended to a ligne and
Speaker 3: all put out some of their best work in one year.
Speaker 3: Like every A list artist in Legend and Icon now
Speaker 3: put out some of their best work that year. I
Speaker 3: just don't know that's it's ever going to align that way.
Speaker 4: But even if it's not the legends, even if we
Speaker 4: get some of the newer artists, but they put out
Speaker 4: good albums.
Speaker 1: I thought last year was incredible for music.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not mad at that, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Last year was good for music. And I think that
Speaker 4: twenty six is off to a good start in February,
Speaker 4: and I think we have some really good music already.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm looking forward to Larry June currency Alchemists.
Speaker 3: Always looking for Larry June Bronx legend low t J.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Little TJ. I mean, shit, if we're
Speaker 3: getting t J tomorrow, it could be like twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's good. That could be his Saint Pablo,
Speaker 3: it could be actually, respect Little TJ.
Speaker 1: Could be his lemonade. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: We also get a Scissor single Saved the Day, which
Speaker 3: I think is attached to a movie. Todd Allan Leon
Speaker 3: Thomas have been teasing this song for about two weeks.
Speaker 3: Now I'll miss you too, looking forward to hearing that
Speaker 3: reason putting out an EP, don't play with my.
Speaker 1: Heart shout out my nigga reed.
Speaker 3: We get the first Yeaba I Guess single for her project,
Speaker 3: yellow Eyes, and I love.
Speaker 4: Yeba so happy not going at Michael Jordan like that
Speaker 4: what you saying?
Speaker 1: Yellow Eyes?
Speaker 3: Watching it took It took me a quick trying to
Speaker 3: a touch of kids, and I was like, oh, Yellow,
Speaker 3: you're trying to kill MJ for.
Speaker 1: The whole Daytona thing.
Speaker 4: You couldn't see, right, thought, Yea, Now all of a
Speaker 4: sudden you have a dropping yellow Eyes. Yeah, come on, yeah,
Speaker 4: but don't do that. Respect MJ's Daytona bubble. Don't do that,
Speaker 4: Yellow Eyes, to realize.
Speaker 1: Yellow eyes. Realize, really, ladies, if you.
Speaker 5: See a nigga with yellow eyes, run far away, Run
Speaker 5: far away, bro. Why because that nigga needs a liver
Speaker 5: cleanse and he's gonna die early, and he gonn cheat
Speaker 5: on you before.
Speaker 2: You do it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's because he's dealing with addiction.
Speaker 3: If he has some money, you know, he's gonna die
Speaker 3: quick and maybe you get in there, so it's not
Speaker 3: that crazy of a time investment.
Speaker 5: And with yellow eyes, don't got life insurance other than
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4: But Michael we joking. Michael Jordan's eyes aren't yellow. They're
Speaker 4: like Konyak.
Speaker 1: Because of the koonyak and the cigars.
Speaker 4: Who's a lot of koonyak smokes a lot of cigars.
Speaker 4: Mj is in great health. I'm pretty sure he get
Speaker 4: the ivy every other night. Like he's cool, he's good.
Speaker 3: Well, yes, that athletic ability your body is can probably
Speaker 3: handle any when you're a you're a billionaire, it'll be.
Speaker 1: Fine in the athlete like you're an athlete. First, he's
Speaker 1: probably on like his seventh liver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the amount of billionaires that probably get like different
Speaker 3: like organ transplants without us even though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you think you think Michael Jordan don't have livers
Speaker 4: like that. He has sneakers, probably on his sixth heart. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the Jordan brand livers. Y'all don't know nothing about the
Speaker 4: Jordan brand livers though. See that's the problem. You could
Speaker 4: party all week and then just go get a new liver. Yeah,
Speaker 4: come on, that's MJ. Dog from the white woman that
Speaker 4: you're dating. Wait, no, what's the kidneys. You can't give kidneys.
Speaker 4: You can't give someone your liver.
Speaker 1: You can do liver.
Speaker 2: They just take a little slice.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yep.
Speaker 2: And because the liver regenerates itself.
Speaker 1: Oh, MJ got wild livers.
Speaker 4: The livers rejuvenate themselves, regenerate a young white woman snake skin.
Speaker 5: Kind of yeah, yeah, kidney, you can do it. You
Speaker 5: can do a partial liver.
Speaker 3: I think when you cut a caterpillar and it becomes
Speaker 3: two caterpillars.
Speaker 1: Man, that's m J.
Speaker 4: That's big mic I trip him, man, leave Mike alone.
Speaker 1: Well called Micah pet thank you.
Speaker 3: We didn't call him that. We just said the video
Speaker 3: was weird. I think in our bubble it's okay to
Speaker 3: say that.
Speaker 4: No, no, you niggas went and figured out his middle
Speaker 4: name was Jeffrey and they try to tie him into
Speaker 4: some more other shit.
Speaker 1: I saw you niggas on.
Speaker 2: Twitter who had to figure that out? I knew that fast, Jim.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean they was like looking, you know,
Speaker 4: they circled the middle name Jeffrey, and in the times
Speaker 4: they were living in they.
Speaker 1: Tried to tach.
Speaker 2: So now every nigga named Jeffrey is a pedophile.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. This is what they try
Speaker 4: and do to our legends. You see what they try
Speaker 4: to do. It's crazy. Respect MJ's bubble Man, Maul.
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Speaker 3: Well, no, I did not see the day where Michael
Speaker 3: Jordan would be compared to Jeffrey Epstream just based off
Speaker 3: his middle name. But I also never thought i'd see
Speaker 3: the day where Larrussell was the bad guy of the industry.
Speaker 4: Yo, man, this is listen. How many days he becomes
Speaker 4: the Lord Jamar of the music industry? How many days
Speaker 4: has Larussell been the main character online?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: This is he's pushing almost a week? Yeah, he's the
Speaker 4: main How long the week is on online? You only
Speaker 4: the main character maybe for a day or two, like
Speaker 4: he's at day five right now.
Speaker 3: But I mean a lot of that was Larussell's fault.
Speaker 3: And whether this is what he's doing purposely or not,
Speaker 3: he just he's the one not letting it go.
Speaker 1: People would would have let it go.
Speaker 3: He's tweeting every day, he's putting out freestyles, he's bringing
Speaker 3: up a new points like and another thing like at
Speaker 3: one am, like.
Speaker 1: And here I fuck with l Russell. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's a bad guy.
Speaker 3: I think you have opinion of Wayne at this point though,
Speaker 3: I think he may be doing more more damage for
Speaker 3: online perception.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be fox Man, He's gonna be fine, and
Speaker 4: him and Wayne about to drop a record.
Speaker 1: I see how this is gonna go.
Speaker 3: I hope they put out a record with no substance, like.
Speaker 4: Called no substance, Waynet had no ceilings, right substance.
Speaker 5: Larussell tweeted, telling a rapper to stop talking and rap
Speaker 5: is the same as telling a nigga to shut up
Speaker 5: and dribble, laughing face, laughing face. We quickly become the
Speaker 5: same oppressor as we so called. Hey, I don't have
Speaker 5: to make a hit song or rap because I said
Speaker 5: some shit that you didn't agree with. I don't have
Speaker 5: to now prove myself worthy of all I've earned because
Speaker 5: you don't like me.
Speaker 2: Bitch, God made me.
Speaker 1: Bitch God. I've never seen bitch god right next to
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 2: I think it was a bitch comma God made me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or he coulda said God made me bitch punk bitch,
Speaker 4: punk bitch, just to show that he knows substance. I mean,
Speaker 4: Larussell is right though like that he is correct.
Speaker 3: But and this has again nothing to do with with
Speaker 3: the joke I was making about Russell commenting all my
Speaker 3: adoti shit. I do like when artists do get backlash
Speaker 3: for their opinions now because artists are doing more podcasts
Speaker 3: more like their own content. I like to see this
Speaker 3: because y'all have been killing us for a decade for
Speaker 3: having an opinion, not even disrespectful ones, just just music
Speaker 3: opinions the way art should be critiqued, and that I love.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this is L.
Speaker 3: Russell's specific, but a lot of artists, when they get
Speaker 3: a taste of their own shit, there's like, wait, I
Speaker 3: can have an opinion. It's like, no, that's what we've
Speaker 3: been trying to tell y'all this entire time. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: don't dislike you as people. We're just being honest about
Speaker 3: how we feel about your music. Everything has to be
Speaker 3: it's the greatest of all Wayne has to be the
Speaker 3: greatest of all time, right.
Speaker 4: I just can't say a single bad word about it.
Speaker 4: Do people understand that Wayne has said what L. Russell said.
Speaker 4: That's why I don't understand why this is going like
Speaker 4: this many dates. Wayne has said that because he Lorressello keeps.
Speaker 5: Reminding people that he said it, Like just if he
Speaker 5: would just go quietly like there wouldn't be.
Speaker 4: No I get that, but if Wayne said that about himself,
Speaker 4: and La Russell was just saying what Wayne said, why
Speaker 4: are people mad at.
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: That's the part I'm just having to And I know
Speaker 4: that the internet is a weird place, but I'm just
Speaker 4: trying to understand why are so many like because we
Speaker 4: know Wayne has a yes, Wayne has a hive, I
Speaker 4: could say, we can say Wayne has a cult following
Speaker 4: at this point I understand that. So I know when
Speaker 4: you have a cult following, you can't say anything about
Speaker 4: the person without the fan base piling on you, attacking you.
Speaker 4: And you know, we get that part. But La Russell
Speaker 4: doesn't seem to be affected by any of this. He
Speaker 4: knows who he is, he knows what he meant, he
Speaker 4: knows how he feels about Wayne, how he holds him
Speaker 4: to a high regard as an MC, as a rapper.
Speaker 1: So he's having fun with this.
Speaker 4: But when you just look at the optics and say, okay,
Speaker 4: but what are people mad about that, La Russell said,
Speaker 4: because literally Wayne has said the same thing.
Speaker 3: Well, because now the currency online and on podcasting and
Speaker 3: I'm not here to the hypocrite. I'm saying we're part
Speaker 3: of that bubble as well. And in that world there
Speaker 3: is currency, whether really be real currency or social currency.
Speaker 3: Off pretending to be outraged about basic music opinions, pretending
Speaker 3: to lose your mind because low Russell doesn't think Wayne
Speaker 3: has a substance that he once thought he had when
Speaker 3: he was sixteen. I think Lil Wayne has substance. Do
Speaker 3: I give a single fuck if l Russell thinks the
Speaker 3: same thing. No, but I could pretend to be fucking outrage, scream,
Speaker 3: get a bunch of Wayne fans on my side, and
Speaker 3: now I got a whole week of content. Now I
Speaker 3: could be the president of the Wayne Fan Club, and
Speaker 3: now everyone's gonna follow me, and there'll be comments on this,
Speaker 3: and other stands will come out. The fucking would work
Speaker 3: like fucking roaches, and here we are. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of currency in becoming these STAN leaders over the
Speaker 3: last few years. So yeah, it doesn't shock me that
Speaker 3: this has become like a thing. Now you look like
Speaker 3: the hero when you defend Wayne, and I agree he
Speaker 3: has substance and Larrussell's wrong, but I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't give any fuck where you agree that who
Speaker 1: has substance.
Speaker 3: I think low Wayne has a substance, Okay, And even if
Speaker 3: Wayne says I don't have substance, I'm disagreeing with the
Speaker 3: artists that's writing the music. You have substance, Bro, you've
Speaker 3: had substance. You have a lot of bullshit, of course
Speaker 3: you have that, But you also have ten thousand mixtapes.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be some bullshit, but you have substance.
Speaker 1: But I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't care if LARUSSELLO thinks otherwise, and I don't
Speaker 3: think Lrussell gives a fuck that I think otherwise. We
Speaker 3: just all have to pretend like we do.
Speaker 1: Listen, man, Larussell.
Speaker 4: If Larussell has proven anything, he's self sustaining, he'll be
Speaker 4: He's literally literally created his own bubble. His work created
Speaker 4: his own world, community, everything created his own community. And
Speaker 4: I think this is interesting when he decides to, you know,
Speaker 4: sign a deal with a I guess you can call
Speaker 4: Rock Nation a major, It is, right.
Speaker 1: Depending on the deal structure that you do.
Speaker 3: They do.
Speaker 1: They do also have just a distribution company that they.
Speaker 4: Opened, So you do that, so you come out of
Speaker 4: your bubble to kind of like, you know, integrate with
Speaker 4: the outside world.
Speaker 1: Per se. And this is the first thing that happened.
Speaker 4: Soon as you as soon as you leave the pagola,
Speaker 4: who would you leave your backyard? As soon as you
Speaker 4: step out of your bubble for one second, this is
Speaker 4: what they do to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think a lot of times, a lot
Speaker 3: of fans because I saw Larussell getting flack before the
Speaker 3: Wayne thing, but just signing with rock Nation, because he
Speaker 3: was very open about turning down a deal with rock
Speaker 3: Nation a few years ago when rock Nation's whole structure
Speaker 3: was drastically different.
Speaker 4: Well, he said there was no numbers attached and at
Speaker 4: the first contract.
Speaker 3: So and I think a lot of fans rightfully so
Speaker 3: get attached to an artist that preaches independence, preachers doing
Speaker 3: things on your own, promotes that type of positive things
Speaker 3: for creators and artists. I think it's important that fans
Speaker 3: do attach themselves to that. But I think sometimes fans
Speaker 3: and listeners can be misinformed to somebody taking that business
Speaker 3: model and trying to elevate it. And now they're looking
Speaker 3: at you like a hypocrite because you don't fully understand
Speaker 3: the business Loreussel did not sell out. Rock Nation has
Speaker 3: drastically different deals now where you can partner with somebody
Speaker 3: to elevate your message that you have already in a
Speaker 3: different way on more of a corporate side, to get
Speaker 3: what you're doing out of just your backyard.
Speaker 1: Like he's not supposed to elevate all.
Speaker 3: Right, he's supposed to just forever do the exact same
Speaker 3: business model.
Speaker 4: Well no, I mean, well some people would say, yeah,
Speaker 4: he should just you know, continue doing what he was doing.
Speaker 1: But he's still doing it though. No, definitely, he's still
Speaker 1: doing your own masters, still has full creative control. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Now there's just a partner that I mean.
Speaker 3: He even said again before the Wayne thing, he said,
Speaker 3: after I signed with rock I watched the amount of
Speaker 3: placements and blogs that were posting my records that had
Speaker 3: never posted before are now posting it. And I know
Speaker 3: some fans specific like Barbs or whatever, would say that's
Speaker 3: some evil rock Nation thing. No, it's just what a
Speaker 3: label or partner does with marketing. That's just literally one
Speaker 3: on one marketing in any business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, what.
Speaker 3: L Russell was doing in his backyard can be elevated
Speaker 3: to the rest of the world with a part like
Speaker 3: rock Nation. They have the connections to boost that shit
Speaker 3: out there, not fake bots or boost numbers, but get
Speaker 3: your message out there. There's nothing wrong with that, especially
Speaker 3: when you have a positive message. I think it's worse
Speaker 3: when if you had a negative one. Yeah, what's wrong
Speaker 3: with him to elevate in that way? But that also
Speaker 3: puts you on Front Street. And now you had an
Speaker 3: opinion that you probably didn't even think before you even
Speaker 3: got on the microphone. And now that's that's the catch
Speaker 3: twenty two of it. Now you're in everyone's face the
Speaker 3: same dumb shit.
Speaker 4: The verses we all need to see, the Pagola versus
Speaker 4: the front points.
Speaker 1: Different platforms.
Speaker 3: That's not not to say Larrussell hasn't brought guests. I
Speaker 3: feel like even like Snoop has been back there, like
Speaker 3: he's brought guests there. But Nucci with Front Point, like
Speaker 3: most of that is guest based, whereas Larrussell's is a
Speaker 3: lot of time him and his neighborhood in his community.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'll get it.
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like, first of all, shout out
Speaker 4: to what both of those gentlemen the build them with incredible.
Speaker 4: But when I say versus, meaning like I love what
Speaker 4: both of them have done, Like I want to see
Speaker 4: who's going to be at the Pagola with Yeah Russell,
Speaker 4: I want to see who Nuci is bringing to the
Speaker 4: Front Porch. So yes, the Front Porch is definitely guest based,
Speaker 4: but the Russell has had some big name Pagola and you.
Speaker 3: Want to make it clear too. Nucci started Front Porch
Speaker 3: with his own music. That wasn't like I'm trying to
Speaker 3: do my version of outdoor tiny Desk or some shit.
Speaker 1: That was his ship.
Speaker 3: He was putting his music out and it caught and
Speaker 3: then he's like, well shit, let me have some other
Speaker 3: people up here and making a jam session. And it
Speaker 3: turned into what it turned into. So I hear just
Speaker 3: the verses would be. That'd be tough though, because you
Speaker 3: got like a list a list a list shit down
Speaker 3: the front porch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we made it out there. I think that's
Speaker 1: the game changer.
Speaker 4: But we listen, Russell, we still want to go to
Speaker 4: the Pagola.
Speaker 1: We wanted to go years ago. Yeah, we've been talking
Speaker 1: about the years ago.
Speaker 4: Never made it happen, But at some point I'm definitely,
Speaker 4: definitely I'm gonna make it to the Bogola. Absolutely got
Speaker 4: to got to make it to the house. Literally that
Speaker 4: the Russell has built.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess before we get off of music and
Speaker 3: nerd shit, did you guys see the even UMG partnership.
Speaker 4: I've seen him talking about it online. I've scene reason
Speaker 4: had some things to say about it. I think I
Speaker 4: saw when he retweeted it. Whatever reason I say, well,
Speaker 4: he was kind of confused, like like, all right, so
Speaker 4: what is this?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there still needs to be a bit
Speaker 3: more information coming out with what their partnership means exactly.
Speaker 3: But it's it's the majors pivoting to direct to consumers.
Speaker 3: It's what we do with Patreon, going directly to the
Speaker 3: people that listen that want to pay just for you.
Speaker 4: Whereas, oh, these are the labels playing Ketchup again? Yeah
Speaker 4: got it? Okay, Yeah, that's what you had to say.
Speaker 3: The same way when they played ketch Up with streaming,
Speaker 3: and then because they had the catalog they could own it.
Speaker 3: And now us as consumers are like, no, I'm paying
Speaker 3: twenty bucks for this shit, but I only listen to
Speaker 3: two artists. I'd rather give my twenty dollars to the
Speaker 3: two artists.
Speaker 1: That I fuck with.
Speaker 3: I don't want to give it to Spotify to have
Speaker 3: the whole catalog of music. I'd rather my money go to.
Speaker 3: This goes back to the stand culture we were talking about.
Speaker 3: Stand culture has become so prominent and everything has its
Speaker 3: positives and negatives. But I think platforms like Even or
Speaker 3: Patreon or anyone that goes direct to consumer with a
Speaker 3: paywall that you can pick is great for the stand culture.
Speaker 3: That's the positive part of stand culture. People will really
Speaker 3: support these artists. They don't need anything else. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's labels playing catch up with with direct consumer.
Speaker 3: That's really all the entire thing is. I don't know
Speaker 3: exactly how they're gonna pivot it or like if all
Speaker 3: umg artists are now going to have their own Even account,
Speaker 3: but like you know, Coals used Even.
Speaker 1: It's a big platform.
Speaker 3: But I guess I just didn't see the outrage because
Speaker 3: I've seen plenty of major sign other independent companies and
Speaker 3: sub labels, and I don't think it's any different than that.
Speaker 5: Can you break it just a little bit more, because
Speaker 5: I'm sure there's a lot of people that don't know
Speaker 5: what Even is.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what it was.
Speaker 3: I assume a lot of people that listen to this
Speaker 3: show know what Patreon is. It's a paywall where we
Speaker 3: can set different tiers for different prices.
Speaker 1: We can tell you what.
Speaker 3: You get for this this amount of content for this price.
Speaker 3: Even it's pretty much the same thing with music. If
Speaker 3: I want to put a record out to my fans
Speaker 3: a month in advance before it hits TSPs, that's an
Speaker 3: option I can do. It's it's really just a direct
Speaker 3: to consumer option for for your music.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Shooters, Shout out to rock Marcie, Shout
Speaker 4: out to those guy guys like that that have been
Speaker 4: doing this yeah type of thing for years direct to
Speaker 4: consumer with their fan base. And this is again, this
Speaker 4: is just essentially the majors now getting into that.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: Before with before with even, you had to have owned
Speaker 5: if you wanted to go to direct to consumer, you
Speaker 5: had to own all of that content order to give
Speaker 5: it to the consumer for a price. Now u MG
Speaker 5: is allowing that catalog to be used. So like if
Speaker 5: you are releasing something that is going to be under UMG,
Speaker 5: if a fan wanted to get it early, you can
Speaker 5: still do that, where before you couldn't because UMG owns it.
Speaker 4: Either way, UMG is getting a cut. Yeah, and I
Speaker 4: guess this back catalog like or just.
Speaker 3: Nothing means all right. For example, I don't want to
Speaker 3: use the artist's name, but an artist that we all
Speaker 3: love that maybe live near Demaris at one point in
Speaker 3: their entire life, he got into a problem with Even
Speaker 3: and Even ended up getting sued because that artist owed
Speaker 3: another label a project and he put that project out
Speaker 3: on Even without permission to do so. So Even has
Speaker 3: ran into a lot of different lawsuits. Some you can
Speaker 3: research on your own. I'm not going to get into it,
Speaker 3: but most of them have been catalog based or artists
Speaker 3: trying to utilize Even when they're already in a deal
Speaker 3: with somebody else. So you're technically selling music that a
Speaker 3: major or whatever independent label you have is entitled to,
Speaker 3: but you're putting it over here on Even. It's like
Speaker 3: it's similar if we have something Netflix and put it
Speaker 3: on Patre, Like it's that same thing.
Speaker 1: Now when you partner with the UMG.
Speaker 3: I assume Even would probably prefer that because now I'm
Speaker 3: not going to have as many lawsuits and I have
Speaker 3: a partner with more artists that would be seamless and
Speaker 3: trying to get music out. If we're all friends here,
Speaker 3: then we can all utilize this platform the best way
Speaker 3: we can instead of fighting with artists labels when they're
Speaker 3: trying to put shit on your platform. So it's a
Speaker 3: smart business move on even. And that's another thing, kind
Speaker 3: of full circle to the Larussell thing. I saw a
Speaker 3: lot of artists mad with Even, like evens supposed to
Speaker 3: be fighting your independent fight. Everyone is in this business
Speaker 3: to make money as well, and I don't think even
Speaker 3: for the good of the culture wants to get sued
Speaker 3: every day and not be able to grow their company
Speaker 3: and also make money. So I hear y'all, but not
Speaker 3: everything is revolutionary. Some people just come in this business
Speaker 3: to make money.
Speaker 1: That is a fact.
Speaker 3: Just because we're independent doesn't mean I'm not here to
Speaker 3: turn a profit like this isn't a five to one
Speaker 3: three seed though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm want to make money.
Speaker 3: I'm here to make money and if that has to
Speaker 3: do with changing with the times. And I'm sure Spotify
Speaker 3: didn't want to fucking partner with Sony and Universal, but
Speaker 3: you got to.
Speaker 1: You got the catalog. I got no choice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could just be a hero in Sweden for
Speaker 3: a couple hundred thousand people, or I could grow it
Speaker 3: to be the biggest dsp ever, which would you.
Speaker 4: Pick makes sense to me. Listen, it's business. It's business.
Speaker 4: That's people better understand it's all. It's all apart the business.
Speaker 3: And I get why fans are verse commerce. I'm one
Speaker 3: of those people too, where it's fucked up with This
Speaker 3: is also people's job. They not everything is for the
Speaker 3: love of the culture.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people just.
Speaker 4: Knowing most things aren't for the love of the culture.
Speaker 3: Like did I love with what Nipsey did with one
Speaker 3: hundred dollars mixtape? Absolutely incredibly great for the culture. That
Speaker 3: was a staple. It did prove a model at a time,
Speaker 3: was amazing. Nipsey also made a lot of fucking money
Speaker 3: that I'm sure he was happy about. Absolutely, I'm sure
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 1: Like, you know what, no, no, no, anybody that hip hop? Yeah,
Speaker 1: give that. You know what I'm saying, get that hip
Speaker 1: hop and ja Z. Don't give me ten thousand dollars
Speaker 1: you're one of my mixtapes. I don't need that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet. Yeah. You wish all this would stay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Larrussell wants to make money like the
Speaker 3: rest of us too.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you can balance it as you should.
Speaker 3: I've never had a real issue with Demaris until she
Speaker 3: typed this on our screen. The Baby dropped a new
Speaker 3: album coming off a hot single.
Speaker 4: Demarras, I'm sorry, I'm respecting your producer, Bubble. I'm respecting
Speaker 4: the producer Bubble. The Baby dropped a new album coming
Speaker 4: off a hot single, blazing hip hop and arvy. Now,
Speaker 4: can I ask the question that scorching you and I
Speaker 4: probably want to know the answer to, what was the
Speaker 4: name of the singer? U?
Speaker 2: Pop it?
Speaker 3: If I'm my mistaken I like the Baby. I just
Speaker 3: think the term hot sing.
Speaker 4: I love the Baby, but I just didn't know the
Speaker 4: single that I don't know either, Pop that thing?
Speaker 1: Pop that thing?
Speaker 3: Can we play it real quick? Just do pause because
Speaker 3: I'm trying to see if I've heard it before. Yep,
Speaker 3: all right, No, I have not heard that Scorch a
Speaker 3: new single. I do like it, And don't take this
Speaker 3: as any fact. This is just my opinion with my algorithms,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying as a fact. I've started to notice
Speaker 3: I feel like the Baby's black Bolt. I feel like
Speaker 3: he's kind of kicked out the algorithms, like I should
Speaker 3: know that the Baby has a single out, like I
Speaker 3: keep up with with his music. I wouldn't say I'm
Speaker 3: a diehard fan by any means, but I am a
Speaker 3: casual fan that would at least know you're putting out
Speaker 3: a single and pay attention to shit that I don't
Speaker 3: even care about.
Speaker 2: Do you follow the Baby on any social media sites?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: On Instagram.
Speaker 3: That's why I said a lot of my shait with
Speaker 3: Twitter was all hip hop stuff and Instagram like, well,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to follow. I wouldn't expect the Baby
Speaker 3: to follow me either.
Speaker 2: Like I discover all new music on TikTok.
Speaker 5: So the reason why I said hot single is because
Speaker 5: that song is huge on TikTok, same as the Juvenile
Speaker 5: song that you guys hadn't heard about.
Speaker 3: That juvenile record is fire BBB is big on TikTok
Speaker 3: that record is.
Speaker 5: So that's where I discover almost all new music now,
Speaker 5: because unless you curate your Instagram feed perfectly, you're not
Speaker 5: going to discover new yeah on Instagram.
Speaker 3: I just feel like outside of the fake canceling of
Speaker 3: the baby and other ship that was going on, of course,
Speaker 3: I knew he wouldn't be as in our face as before.
Speaker 3: I just feel like he's some form of black ball
Speaker 3: that has happened, Like he's not in anything that that
Speaker 3: I see.
Speaker 5: He's been saying that he's blackballed for a while, so
Speaker 5: I also think it just might be that once you
Speaker 5: become unlikable to the masses, whether you earned it or not,
Speaker 5: once you become unlikable to the masses, nobody's gonna report
Speaker 5: on you because no.
Speaker 3: One Carestyahu's probably the most reported on person in the world.
Speaker 1: My bad, it was right there. I didn't know. I'm sorry. Apologize. Hey,
Speaker 1: my bubble, my bubble, you know what's wrong with you?
Speaker 1: But no, I like. I like that the baby's putting
Speaker 1: out music. Shit.
Speaker 3: Sometimes he'll end up be in my YouTube algorithms when
Speaker 3: he's cooking food, but it's it's not rapping.
Speaker 5: He just had recently had an interview. I would have
Speaker 5: to look up who the gentleman was, but he had
Speaker 5: an interview. He's doubling down on his comments. Basically, what
Speaker 5: he was saying is that his comments that he said
Speaker 5: about like you know, show your phone if you're not
Speaker 5: sucking dick in the parking lot, or if you don't
Speaker 5: got HIV AIDS and things like that. He said that
Speaker 5: if like Kanye says stuff like that all the time,
Speaker 5: and like, you know, Kanye does what he does and
Speaker 5: gets out of it. He said, but because he's the
Speaker 5: baby and he's a household name, like, he can't get.
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, I get it. Wait. I want to make
Speaker 1: sure that you're paraphrasing correctly.
Speaker 2: I am, I can play it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to.
Speaker 2: That's what he said. He want to shit on a
Speaker 2: baby right now.
Speaker 3: If he didn't say that, because that's the craziest statement
Speaker 3: I've everd that's what he said.
Speaker 4: See, the thing is this, and I'm glad to marriage
Speaker 4: he said what she said because I didn't even know
Speaker 4: the baby said that. And Rory can attest to this.
Speaker 4: I fuck with the baby been singing his praises for
Speaker 4: years later. I think the problem. The problem is I
Speaker 4: don't think the baby has shown much growth musically, and
Speaker 4: I think that's part of the problems because you can
Speaker 4: say something and be quote unquote canceled and all of this.
Speaker 4: But like you say, Kanye could say something, and you know,
Speaker 4: Kanye has said the craziest of the crazy things. But
Speaker 4: the difference is Kanye's talent level and the music is
Speaker 4: always going to bring people back to the table to
Speaker 4: listen to it and to support it because.
Speaker 1: It's just that good. The talent and the art is
Speaker 1: that good.
Speaker 4: So while the baby may be blackballed in certain circles,
Speaker 4: and you know, people in his fan base, you know,
Speaker 4: might not you know, they might be mad at him,
Speaker 4: But I'm a firm believer in the only people that
Speaker 4: cancel you are people that never truly supported you. Like,
Speaker 4: when people support you because they know you, they know you,
Speaker 4: know your your demeanor, they know you know the type
Speaker 4: of person you are. You could say things that's kind
Speaker 4: of like, all right, that was wild, But because your
Speaker 4: fans and your people know you and support you, they
Speaker 4: know that you know, you just had a bad moment,
Speaker 4: but they're not going to cancel you and never support
Speaker 4: you again.
Speaker 1: Like, so, you know, I get what the baby saying.
Speaker 4: He may he may have a right to feel like
Speaker 4: he's being black ball Maybe he's not invited in the
Speaker 4: same rooms he was invited in before. He might not
Speaker 4: be invited back to the Grammys for a while. He
Speaker 4: might not be invited back to you know, Jayleen or
Speaker 4: wherever he was at before his.
Speaker 2: Name stream mainstream.
Speaker 1: But your fans.
Speaker 4: When it comes to streaming your music and come into
Speaker 4: your show, they're not canceling you for what you said.
Speaker 1: Your fans are not canceling you for.
Speaker 2: Is it possible he didn't build.
Speaker 5: He didn't have enough time building the cult fan base
Speaker 5: to avoid that.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I don't think, no, you have to build.
Speaker 2: He doesn't build a cult fan base in order to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 5: No, Otherwise you have a fan base full of casual fans.
Speaker 5: So then when you get canceled, they're not standing by
Speaker 5: you because they were casual fan.
Speaker 4: I like the baby, but he hasn't put out the
Speaker 4: type of art that would attain or acquire a cult
Speaker 4: fan base. Like that's that you got to You get
Speaker 4: into a different level of art and a different level
Speaker 4: of talent when you talk about cult fan base, like,
Speaker 4: it's just a different it takes a different thing to
Speaker 4: break through that ceiling of I now have a cult following.
Speaker 5: Well, no, it doesn't always have to be talent, because
Speaker 5: you know, we have spoken about artists who we don't
Speaker 5: think are that talented that have a cult fan base
Speaker 5: that has gotten them very very successful, Like they'll be
Speaker 5: at every show of them niggas just sending their screaming demonic.
Speaker 1: True, because Playbek.
Speaker 4: Carter can say exactly what the Baby said, and he's
Speaker 4: his streaming and everything, which, yeah, it's still be a
Speaker 4: number one album, it will still be her.
Speaker 2: Cult fan base.
Speaker 5: I think takes time and consistency, and I don't think
Speaker 5: that the Baby had all of that before he did
Speaker 5: what he did now.
Speaker 4: His trajectory before that, he was definitely trending up, Oh
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 3: That's why I think both bubbles can be true, because
Speaker 3: both things can be true. There that he didn't really
Speaker 3: evolve with his music, but that shit happened before he
Speaker 3: had the chance to even do so. And if you're
Speaker 3: not evolving with your music and you're also not quote
Speaker 3: unquote likable, now, both things are fucked up because I
Speaker 3: think to your point, yes, you don't get canceled, but
Speaker 3: if you're also not evolving to create a core fan base,
Speaker 3: and now you're unlikable the casual fan, even if they
Speaker 3: don't care about what you said, you may not be
Speaker 3: in their out rooms anymore. Because Baby was very much
Speaker 3: a streaming artist, big on Spotify, big on YouTube, I
Speaker 3: think he could have got there. Like the Kirk album
Speaker 3: I thought had substance on it. I think he was
Speaker 3: on his way to being one of the best visual
Speaker 3: artists with music videos of that era, and yeah, I
Speaker 3: do think that definitely affected it. I don't think it
Speaker 3: canceled the baby, but he was on his way to
Speaker 3: starting to create a fan base. And then when you
Speaker 3: become unlikable to mainstream, you're not in everyone's faces and
Speaker 3: they were moving on to other shit.
Speaker 5: In this same interview, he was talking about how like,
Speaker 5: I'm not changing for nobody, I'm not this like it's whatever.
Speaker 5: Like he was just kind of like doubling down on it,
Speaker 5: like I am who I am. All the niggas clean
Speaker 5: shit up, I'm not cleaning shit up.
Speaker 1: Da da da da.
Speaker 5: And the thing is, like, I hear you. But then
Speaker 5: you can't complain about being just blackballed because it's not
Speaker 5: just the industry that are blackballing you. You kind of
Speaker 5: you had a good two years where you did a
Speaker 5: lot of shit at the wrong moments that rubbed multiple
Speaker 5: people wrong. Like if you're your rap artist, if you
Speaker 5: just attack the gay community, like eventually you'll be fine,
Speaker 5: right every day damn near every rapper has attacked the
Speaker 5: gay community at one point, But then you also have
Speaker 5: all this shit going on with you and your baby
Speaker 5: mother that's like, doesn't look that great, and then at
Speaker 5: the same time you bring Tory on stage when he's
Speaker 5: in the hot seat, right, So now you don't piss
Speaker 5: the women all you don pissed the gaze off you
Speaker 5: and pissed the women off you. Then you go and
Speaker 5: make a song when Megan's going through all her shit saying, oh,
Speaker 5: same night she said she got shot by Tori, I
Speaker 5: fuck Meghan the Stallion.
Speaker 2: It was just too much combined lame shit at once.
Speaker 1: And that's that's on the pr side.
Speaker 3: Also on the liability side, you have to remember, baby,
Speaker 3: whether he was right or wrong of people touching him
Speaker 3: at the club or whatever it felt like for three
Speaker 3: months straight he was whooping people ass like every event
Speaker 3: he was hosting, somebody was getting punched like no, I'm
Speaker 3: not I'm not doing this like you too much of
Speaker 3: a liability, Yeah, that's that's whether he's protecting himself. I'm
Speaker 3: not here to debate that because I think that's unfair.
Speaker 3: I don't know how he felt at the time, if
Speaker 3: he felt like he was being threatened and needed to react,
Speaker 3: I'm not here to debate that. But when it every
Speaker 3: fucking headline every time you host something, or every time
Speaker 3: after a fucking festival you are. Your security is knocking
Speaker 3: somebody the fuck out. Yeah, you're not gonna be You're
Speaker 3: not gonna be at the festivals like you were before. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was just too much at once.
Speaker 5: Like you can say, everybody says dislikable shit every once
Speaker 5: in a while, but like you just had too much
Speaker 5: at once when you were at like the height of
Speaker 5: your career, and.
Speaker 2: Then you continue to like double down on it.
Speaker 5: There's no like, I'm sorry, there's no and I get that,
Speaker 5: but now you got to deal with the consequences of
Speaker 5: those actions.
Speaker 4: You can be the bad guy, but that that art
Speaker 4: better be fucking incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can be the villain.
Speaker 3: So I'm saying, if it doesn't evolve, you can't also
Speaker 3: be disliked.
Speaker 4: Right, you can be the villain, but you gotta be
Speaker 4: putting out art that's undeniable. It got to be at
Speaker 4: a certain level at all times. And that's just the
Speaker 4: reality of it. Because I feel the baby saying, you
Speaker 4: got dudes out here that you know, got sexual assault
Speaker 4: on them, got all kind of shit on them, still
Speaker 4: doing shows, selling out arenas, selling the albums, streaming out, streaming. Well,
Speaker 4: so I understand what he's saying, there's a lot of
Speaker 4: people out here that have shit on him that's like,
Speaker 4: you know, would be deemed worse than what the baby
Speaker 4: did or say right, hell yeah, But again I get it.
Speaker 4: I'm on the side of the baby. I understand what
Speaker 4: he's saying. It's like because Okay, I said that, Yeah
Speaker 4: I shouldn't have said. That was a mistake, But I
Speaker 4: ain't got no essay on my jacket though, and his
Speaker 4: dudes would essays all over they jackets like a motherfucking
Speaker 4: high school classroom, and they just out here winning. Ain't
Speaker 4: canceled nowhere getting all the looks and you know, lose
Speaker 4: a show, get a show back, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like, but I think that kind of speaks to the
Speaker 3: point we were all making with the tornado shit that
Speaker 3: happened with the baby, because that's the irony of cancel culture.
Speaker 3: Everyone appears like they care in the moment that much,
Speaker 3: but most people don't give a fuck enough to even know.
Speaker 1: About your essay cases or whatever.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not putting anything on Kodak because I don't
Speaker 3: know a lot about that case. But even if you'd asked,
Speaker 3: like the regular casual Kodak fan, they probably know nothing
Speaker 3: about that case.
Speaker 1: But the baby. If he would have just said, yo,
Speaker 1: make some.
Speaker 3: Noise, if you didn't suck your man's dick in the
Speaker 3: parking lot, and that's all he did, we would not
Speaker 3: be having this conversation right now. Yeah, it was the
Speaker 3: amount of things that kept piling on, doubling down. Kodak
Speaker 3: went to jail, and most people didn't even fucking know
Speaker 3: until somebody said, for Kodak, and he's a huge artist,
Speaker 3: Casual fans don't know that much about your personal life. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're podcasters, We fucking know way more than most people
Speaker 3: because this is our job an obsession. But the regular
Speaker 3: person listening to Kodak, I guarantee you couldn't tell you
Speaker 3: much about that case.
Speaker 5: And every single time you do something new, they're gonna
Speaker 5: bring up the old shit too. So now it's just
Speaker 5: like it just keeps getting rehashed and rehashed. That's why
Speaker 5: I was I think the baby makes even stuff like
Speaker 5: I know you guys say there's been no growth, but
Speaker 5: like this song, the song was sexy read like I
Speaker 5: think that I was shaking music, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So I think he could do fine, But every time
Speaker 5: he gets another opportunity where we done forgot for a
Speaker 5: little bit, he come back, puts some hot shit out.
Speaker 2: He keeps doubling down on old situations.
Speaker 5: If you're gonna go to interviews, tell them niggas stop
Speaker 5: asking you about that shit. Yeah, especially if your answer
Speaker 5: is not gonna change, you're not gonna apologize, tell them
Speaker 5: stop asking you.
Speaker 3: And again, I always felt like he was talking about
Speaker 3: somebody specific, not a community.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with those comeds, some bod talking about somebody's specific.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I think that happened that day. I think
Speaker 3: somebody was sucking dicking that parking lot. Well, I mean
Speaker 3: I think I think whoever was supposed to get that
Speaker 3: message heard that message. That was not about a community,
Speaker 3: that was about that. It made no sense. Go listen
Speaker 3: to that clip. It makes no sense to just randomly
Speaker 3: yelled it out. That was about somebody that was backstage.
Speaker 3: I have no if this was just my my own
Speaker 3: tinfoil hackensperer, go listen to that clip.
Speaker 1: Nobody would just blurt that out. Nobody would literally like
Speaker 1: that's Tourette's.
Speaker 3: Nobody would literally just yelled out how long that was
Speaker 3: about somebody backstage?
Speaker 2: For if I'm not mistaken twenty one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was was I thought it was
Speaker 1: before COVID.
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't before because it was after. It was
Speaker 5: after Meg got shot.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, I guess so. Yeah, when the world
Speaker 3: started to open up again.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also a crazy time, not for the obvious
Speaker 3: with with Meg, but Meg and the Baby were kind
Speaker 3: of like the male and female parts of each other
Speaker 3: with singles even some of the criticism. You guys have
Speaker 3: similar like flows all the time, COVID, Like when y'all
Speaker 3: were about to go on your run Run it got weird.
Speaker 1: And then obviously with Meg a whole seven.
Speaker 2: Now we're the same show.
Speaker 5: He bought he snuffed toryout, he snupped out on stage
Speaker 5: that when Meg was there, that was it was too
Speaker 5: much like a couple of shit at.
Speaker 3: Once, Like, yeah, I hear that, and but forgot about
Speaker 3: to Kanye in that. And I think Kanye has said
Speaker 3: and way more in the same things than the Baby
Speaker 3: has probably ever even thought it's just like, come.
Speaker 1: On, what are we talking about.
Speaker 3: We had Kanye for twenty years before he really lost
Speaker 3: his fucking mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you.
Speaker 4: Got the college dropout and Jesus walks and flashing lights.
Speaker 4: You know, niggas said what Kanye said, You're gonna be
Speaker 4: at his show looking like Jay when Jay was like.
Speaker 1: This looking up light.
Speaker 4: It's just like money, This nigga got joints. You can't
Speaker 4: cancel this nigga. You can't cancel Kanye. Like what do
Speaker 4: we talk about?
Speaker 3: It's all nasty, but yeah, twenty years of being loved of,
Speaker 3: yeah you get you get a few passes.
Speaker 1: Versus twenty four months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeahs of great records, but the same flow, like
Speaker 3: we could.
Speaker 1: I can move on, I really fuck with the baby.
Speaker 3: I can move on, but like I'm not really I
Speaker 3: want to make that clear because I know that that's
Speaker 3: something that I don't think the podcast world gives the
Speaker 3: baby of how talented he is and the support I
Speaker 3: think he is great, And if he disappeared after that
Speaker 3: and like really got canceled, I like my.
Speaker 1: Life wouldn't have altered.
Speaker 3: Like you take Kanye's catalog out, A lot of our
Speaker 3: lives altered.
Speaker 4: Not only that though, and I think we spoke to
Speaker 4: this around that time too. Like the one thing that
Speaker 4: I think people aren't put taken into account when it
Speaker 4: comes to the baby is, here's somebody who's he has
Speaker 4: a lot of mental.
Speaker 1: Shit going on, like killed somebody in Walmart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like somebody was trying to kill him. If you know,
Speaker 4: a robin in front of his family had to kill him.
Speaker 4: His brother was killed. I believe like his father past
Speaker 4: Like here is there is clearly somebody here with a
Speaker 4: lot of PTSD, a lot of issues who can probably
Speaker 4: turn into a very cold, very I don't give a
Speaker 4: fuck with nobody thinks, uh, you know, like I can
Speaker 4: understand how somebody could have that energy on them going
Speaker 4: through the things that you know, the baby has has
Speaker 4: been through, and I think that, you know, because somebody
Speaker 4: has a talent and as an entertainer, we kind of
Speaker 4: just put that to the back burner, like nah, you're
Speaker 4: supposed to be this you know, you're supposed to get
Speaker 4: everything right and be this perfect person all the time.
Speaker 4: It's like this dude is clearly has some mental things
Speaker 4: going on, like he's not. We don't I don't know
Speaker 4: if the baby has ever gotten therapy for that, which
Speaker 4: is you know, you kill somebody, you definitely need to
Speaker 4: go to therapy. Your brother gets killed, I can tell
Speaker 4: you definitely need to go to therapy, like, you know,
Speaker 4: we sometimes I feel like, yes, the baby says some
Speaker 4: things they shouldn't have said.
Speaker 1: He's human, he made a mistake.
Speaker 4: But you also have to understand here's somebody that we're
Speaker 4: talking about who it is probably just not mentally as
Speaker 4: healthy as most people should be. I think we just
Speaker 4: need to, you know, factor that into it. At the
Speaker 4: same time. I understand what he said hurts some people.
Speaker 4: I get that, But fact then too, he's dealing with her,
Speaker 4: he's dealing with trauma, he's dealing with his own shit
Speaker 4: mentally like, but we got to add that into people.
Speaker 5: When you have been doubling down for five years, the
Speaker 5: mistake goes out the window. Yeah, you say you don't
Speaker 5: regret what you said, and you will say it again.
Speaker 5: The mistake goes out the window.
Speaker 4: Right, I understand it. But do you understand that with
Speaker 4: that energy is routed in or that energy is routed in.
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck about what nobody got to say.
Speaker 4: Because somebody tried to kill me or harm me and
Speaker 4: my family at one point, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 4: It's me against the world. It's easy to develop that energy. Sure,
Speaker 4: when you go through shit like that, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm not defending it. I'm just saying, as a as
Speaker 4: a black man in America, looking at somebody like that
Speaker 4: and what he's been through and unknowing people that have
Speaker 4: been through the type of shit the baby has been through,
Speaker 4: I get it. I understand how you get to a
Speaker 4: point where like, I don't give a fuck with nobody
Speaker 4: got to say niggas, No, nobody give a fuck about me.
Speaker 4: I know how easy it is to develop that energy,
Speaker 4: It's all I'm saying. So that's all I'm saying. The
Speaker 4: Baby sometimes you just gotta factor that in as well.
Speaker 3: That perspective bleeds over into your career. Everything brain brain
Speaker 3: is now wired that way.
Speaker 4: You put a mic in my hand, right, It just
Speaker 4: doesn't excuse me. I'm not excusing it. I just understand
Speaker 4: it a little better than some people may understand.
Speaker 1: Did you. The Kirk album is my favorite Baby album.
Speaker 3: That intro pretty much speaks to everything that I should
Speaker 3: as a Baby fan. Before Kirk came out, I didn't
Speaker 3: even know all the shit he went through. That intro
Speaker 3: on the Kirk Album was one of my favorite records
Speaker 3: of twenty ninety. Yeah, like he's been through some some
Speaker 3: shit that you have to at least factor in. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying the things he says are okay, but they're
Speaker 3: not literally harming people. At that point, we could stop
Speaker 3: what's going on.
Speaker 4: But like I get it, and wrap everybody gangster shit.
Speaker 4: You know, I'll kill you all. Shoot y'all well Sebach
Speaker 4: and I watch you. Yeah, I get it. Not until
Speaker 4: you really do it.
Speaker 1: Do you really know and understand.
Speaker 4: What that does to you mentally and you know how
Speaker 4: it changes you and affects you as all what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, factor that in a little bit. When
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Speaker 3: You feel the same way about Cam because Cam keeps
Speaker 3: just he's digging himself in a hole?
Speaker 1: What Cam do now? Who talks about him yesterday?
Speaker 5: Oh new and you got can Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right Cam.
Speaker 3: If you would said Cam, I would have thought Cam
Speaker 3: rad Yeah, I think Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I feel like we just talked about him on yesterday's
Speaker 3: episode at mart Baby D.
Speaker 1: He's leaning into it, he's leaning into that villain.
Speaker 2: So I know him, but this is this is the villain.
Speaker 4: How long before Cam Newton cut the dreads off, go bald?
Speaker 4: How long before he gets into that you know that
Speaker 4: zone where it's all the way I'm the villain now,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that the dreads through the hat is his
Speaker 1: joker aesthetic. That's the righteous, that's the righteous vieling.
Speaker 2: That it is more horrible. I would hate him less
Speaker 2: if he had.
Speaker 4: That's that's the righteous villain. He's the righteous villain right now.
Speaker 4: But he's trended. He's trended. Cam Newton is a rich
Speaker 4: Look at all of our fair movies, the villain was
Speaker 4: always bald, Like you know what I'm saying, Like we
Speaker 4: got to he's trending to cutting it all off, is
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He's saying things where it's like yeah,
Speaker 4: he about to go all the way. He about to
Speaker 4: just go all the way, like, let me be the
Speaker 4: let me be the Internet's bad guy, let me be
Speaker 4: the guy that everybody hates and they're like, Yo, this
Speaker 4: guy is an idiot, he's an asshole, he's whatever. He
Speaker 4: doesn't like women, he doesn't respect women. He's misogynistic. I
Speaker 4: see Cam Newton going all the way.
Speaker 5: But what we were disagreeing about is you work, like
Speaker 5: I said, you stand up for people a lot. In
Speaker 5: our previous episode, we say you stand up for people
Speaker 5: and say he doesn't really think that. He's just like
Speaker 5: being an entertainer. And I'll be telling you two things
Speaker 5: could be true. He can be leaning into it to
Speaker 5: be entertaining, but he also believes this shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he don't.
Speaker 5: Just put them talking points out the side of his
Speaker 5: ass like he You can tell he stands on that shit.
Speaker 2: He believes it.
Speaker 3: He's had those conversations a few times off Michael. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't think he's just doing that.
Speaker 1: My who was his latest one?
Speaker 5: So right now he's currently going viral because he said
Speaker 5: that women lose. He was having a conversation with a woman.
Speaker 4: Who So we stopped before you say what he said,
Speaker 4: that's my issue. Why do women keep sitting down with
Speaker 4: this thicket like y'all like abuse?
Speaker 1: Women love abuse. Well, she was the reason why.
Speaker 5: I took that dee breafast because she was over there
Speaker 5: agreeing with what the fuck he was saying.
Speaker 1: So it's just like shit, I didn't know that. Okay, proceed.
Speaker 5: She asked him, She's like, do you think women like
Speaker 5: well then the thing that she's getting, yeah, she's getting
Speaker 5: killed because she was saying she was like, you know,
Speaker 5: I could never be a baby mother. That's why got
Speaker 5: married before I had a kid, because I can never be.
Speaker 2: A baby mother.
Speaker 5: And they like theyre in the comments tearing her up, like, girl,
Speaker 5: I got married for I had this baby too, then
Speaker 5: I got divorced. Now suddenly I'm a baby mother. Like
Speaker 5: it's like right, that happens all the time. And she
Speaker 5: asked him do you think women lose value every time
Speaker 5: they have a kid? And he was like yeah, he
Speaker 5: was like you the more kids you have, like you
Speaker 5: lose value. And he has nine with three different women.
Speaker 4: So does he feel men lose value after they have kids?
Speaker 4: And no, of course, he just feels women lose value
Speaker 4: after they give birth.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Beyonce got three kids. She's doing I.
Speaker 1: Being seems to be doing.
Speaker 5: I think the main thing was if you have kids
Speaker 5: with if you're single now and you have children, okay.
Speaker 4: If you're single, if you're a single mom, you lose value. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he about to cut the dress though, I mean at
Speaker 4: all that righteous? Who was resting peace to the gentleman?
Speaker 4: Who's the guy that used to just Daels? Yeah, my
Speaker 4: frad brother cam. Oh you bitches, excuse me? Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Respect bub Samuels, my bad, my bad, respects, respect the bubbles.
Speaker 4: You women did things y'all said it did online with
Speaker 4: Kevin Samuels died.
Speaker 1: Just know that I ain't forget the tweets. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They were not they were happy that he
Speaker 1: passed away.
Speaker 3: What Yeah, that was a little that was crazy and
Speaker 3: someone that that did disagree with a lot of things.
Speaker 3: Kevin Samuel said. I didn't think he deserved to die.
Speaker 1: Yo, I just I remember, is all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I saw some tweets from some people and I was like, yo,
Speaker 4: y'all are crazy.
Speaker 2: Okay. I didn't say anything when Kevin said, I didn't.
Speaker 4: I don't, but he turned your music up in the
Speaker 4: crib a little loud and had a couple of glasses
Speaker 4: of wine.
Speaker 5: I'm never happy that anyone dies, right, especially what I
Speaker 5: will say is there has been if you there's a
Speaker 5: lot of people that sometimes people feel like, yo, if
Speaker 5: we got them, get these niggas off this earth. Not
Speaker 5: that somebody deserves to die, but the same way how
Speaker 5: doctor Umar said, some of you niggas got to be
Speaker 5: put down, Like some of you niggas can't go.
Speaker 2: If we're gonna fix.
Speaker 5: The issues we have in our Black community, some of
Speaker 5: your niggas need to be put down, right.
Speaker 2: I'm sure some people felt like that.
Speaker 5: Some people felt like men who have a reputation for
Speaker 5: hating women or being disrespectful to women, if somebody got
Speaker 5: to live natural selections, some people gotta die.
Speaker 4: Sojack that because y'all be out here supporting dudes that
Speaker 4: don't like women, that have done watching the women, and
Speaker 4: y'all still show up and support.
Speaker 5: These But I think that when people say that, when
Speaker 5: they say y'all do this, but do this, I think
Speaker 5: the women that are supporting abusers and the people who
Speaker 5: are wishing death on Kevin Samuels, I think those are
Speaker 5: two totally different types of women or two totally different audiences.
Speaker 5: Me personally, I feel like that happens all the time.
Speaker 5: They're like, I saw y'all doing this. It's not all
Speaker 5: the same people. It's different types of people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some of them be at the same shows. Some
Speaker 4: of them the same shows, same night they be watching.
Speaker 4: They'll watch Kevin Samuels and get mad and then go
Speaker 4: to the show of the.
Speaker 1: Somebody has a way shittier person.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say no names for y'all know, I'm
Speaker 4: just saying, we see it open Apple Music.
Speaker 1: We see it.
Speaker 4: It's all I'm saying. So it's like, all right, which
Speaker 4: one is it? Because I don't think I don't think
Speaker 4: I don't. I'm not saying I don't think Kevin Samuels
Speaker 4: has ever done anything disrespectful the women, outside of being
Speaker 4: maybe brutally honest. Maybe you know, say, like listen, you
Speaker 4: need to you're singing your single mom, you're overweight, you know,
Speaker 4: which means you probably don't take care of yourself, like
Speaker 4: and you want a man that has all of these
Speaker 4: things you need to be more realistic.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's that crazy.
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm trying to say something to not
Speaker 3: be mean to Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: I see he's going down that path.
Speaker 3: And to your point of people that had the mentality,
Speaker 3: Kevin Samuels, his clips about shitting on men never went viral.
Speaker 1: Now he was pretty brutal to men as well. He
Speaker 1: kept to even playing field At some point.
Speaker 3: I didn't agree with everything he said, but he articulated
Speaker 3: every point. Whether you like this point or not, cool,
Speaker 3: at least he could articulate it. Cam's sometimes just be
Speaker 3: saying shit, like I think, and I'm not comparing Cam
Speaker 3: to like a fresh and fit or anything. But even
Speaker 3: if I disagree with Kevin Samuels, Kevin Samuels is way
Speaker 3: more important than a fresh and fit or sometimes where
Speaker 3: Cam lands in the middle when we're talking about these
Speaker 3: red pillish men podcasts and content, Kevin Samuels was was
Speaker 3: not that bad compared to where these things have have moved.
Speaker 3: At least he sat there and articulated why he felt
Speaker 3: that way instead of just saying shit.
Speaker 1: To say it.
Speaker 3: It was mean, and I disagreed a lot of time,
Speaker 3: like yo, you you are bugging, But a lot of
Speaker 3: times it was like are you a victim or volunteer.
Speaker 3: Stop calling in this motherfucker show to get abused. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's crazy.
Speaker 5: Loot to a show to have a man, Rachel, want
Speaker 5: to tell you what's wrong with you?
Speaker 4: Like, what's the difference between Kevin Samuels and Pop the Balloon.
Speaker 1: It's a big difference. What's the difference.
Speaker 2: Pop the Balloon is a dating game, It's a game,
Speaker 2: a game show.
Speaker 4: With Kevin Samuel and was more intelligent. Kevin Samuels wasn't
Speaker 4: trying to date these women. So he's he's he was
Speaker 4: wrong for what he was saying.
Speaker 5: Well, everybody on Pop the Balloon doesn't say the same
Speaker 5: exact thing.
Speaker 2: They're all different people.
Speaker 4: I can pull up episodes of Pop the Balloon where
Speaker 4: a woman is standing right there and they're like, why
Speaker 4: you popped your balloon?
Speaker 1: Y'all listen, yo.
Speaker 4: I don't like her feet, I don't like her head,
Speaker 4: his wig, I don't like she's overweight, saying breaking them down.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing. I'm breaking this woman down in
Speaker 4: front of a camera. I'm telling you what I see physically,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't like that. I don't think
Speaker 4: that that's I don't I'm not into that. What was
Speaker 4: the difference with what Kevin Kevin Samuels was doing. He
Speaker 4: was at least at least he was more articulate. At
Speaker 4: least he gave kind of like lean more towards you know,
Speaker 4: I guess, numbers and stats when it came to single
Speaker 4: win with women with kids and things like that.
Speaker 1: Like, at least he used more that Popped the balloon.
Speaker 1: They just be up there like, y'all, don't I don't
Speaker 1: like your fit.
Speaker 4: You know, you know what I'm saying, like you you
Speaker 4: look crazy like that's this woman is a nurse, no kids,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. It's like, so my
Speaker 4: thing is what's the difference between Kevin Samuels and.
Speaker 1: Popped the Balloon.
Speaker 5: Kevin Samuel has had a bigger platform. When you have
Speaker 5: a big platform.
Speaker 4: Y'all gonna penalize me because I hadn't built my ship.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm trending up. So now y'all mad.
Speaker 4: Now when God called me home, you mentioned this red
Speaker 4: white Zippindale, y'all laughing tweeting ship like God don't play
Speaker 4: about like what.
Speaker 3: I guess because I was an anti Kevin Samuels, I
Speaker 3: support Diggs in all Catholis, but I still was not
Speaker 3: like the biggest fan of his. But as time went,
Speaker 3: where things are going, it's similar now where I'm like
Speaker 3: John mcan would have been a pretty good president now
Speaker 3: and I look where the fun we're at now. Like
Speaker 3: Kevin Samuels was not as bad as I told you was,
Speaker 3: man what God was?
Speaker 1: He was kind of on point. It's gotten work, this
Speaker 1: ship went. We should have been so lucky to have ken.
Speaker 2: It's gotten so much Moly.
Speaker 3: You know what I would love if we could bring
Speaker 3: John McCaine back from the dead, oh, like to run
Speaker 3: the Republican Party.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just saying.
Speaker 3: Kevin Samuels should be running all of Red Pill content
Speaker 3: right now because that shit is so off the fucking
Speaker 3: rails though, and Cam is teetering. I don't know if
Speaker 3: he's gonna go full, but he's there, and I know
Speaker 3: he believes. What he believes is he gonna go extra
Speaker 3: to start getting crazy for content purposes because he's also
Speaker 3: not out of his mind and what he's saying here,
Speaker 3: because I also feel, I know society views wimp single
Speaker 3: women with a child and a single man with a
Speaker 3: child drasticly different. I totally understand that, but I think
Speaker 3: my value drops as far as much as what I
Speaker 3: can offer as far as time to a relationship. If
Speaker 3: I have a child, I think my value lowers as
Speaker 3: a man with a child. So I don't think he's
Speaker 3: crazy in what he's saying. But when you have nine
Speaker 3: kids with three different baby mothers, maybe sometimes usually just
Speaker 3: shut up when certain topics come on.
Speaker 1: Has Kevin Samuels ever called a woman out of honey?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not I haven't studied you.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: He just always did it in a very sassy like.
Speaker 5: A lot of people thought Kevin Samuels was gay because
Speaker 5: it wasn't like you giving it advice to a woman.
Speaker 5: It was like you enjoy like you're enjoying, like breaking
Speaker 5: this woman down. I think that was what he got
Speaker 5: a lot of black backlash.
Speaker 1: I can see that because it was very bad.
Speaker 5: Like when they found out he died with like a
Speaker 5: thick latina on top of him. Everybody was like, damn,
Speaker 5: I thought he was gay.
Speaker 1: You gotta go out. Yeah. But I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: more so.
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to remember if I've ever seen him
Speaker 4: get into it with a woman and be like bitch,
Speaker 4: get off the.
Speaker 1: Phone calling off her name. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever even seen sometimes sometimes uh,
Speaker 3: not cursing doesn't mean you're not being meaner, you're not
Speaker 3: sometimes nicer.
Speaker 4: That's how you're receiving it. Someone's no, no, no, that's
Speaker 4: how you receiving the honesty. That's how you're receiving the honesty.
Speaker 4: That's how you're receiving it. I'm not being disrespectful because
Speaker 4: I'm being I guess, brutally honest.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I'm being disrespectful.
Speaker 5: We've had a conversation about the word brutally because brutally
Speaker 5: has a meaning like you can be honest without being
Speaker 5: brutally honest.
Speaker 2: And I feel like once you get to once.
Speaker 5: You have a platform and you know that this is
Speaker 5: garnering you attention to your platform, that brutally becomes entertainment.
Speaker 5: So even though you may be talking to a human person,
Speaker 5: you're purposely going out of your way to be brutally honest,
Speaker 5: which mean for entertainment, and that is where lines can
Speaker 5: get great.
Speaker 4: Would you want your therapists to be brutally honest with you?
Speaker 2: Not brutally No, I'm not paying you to be brutal
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 5: You can be honest and you can get your point
Speaker 5: across without intentionally being mean.
Speaker 3: Okay, but if I advertise my therapy company as I'm
Speaker 3: going to be, you know, when you show up, I'm
Speaker 3: telling you you will get brutal honesty.
Speaker 1: You may not want to hear this.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be truthful in my perspective of how
Speaker 3: society runs and who you are in this society and
Speaker 3: where your value level is at. I feel I'm an
Speaker 3: expert at this. I have a degree. It's called brutally
Speaker 3: honestthapy dot com. You know what you signed enough for.
Speaker 3: Don't come and lay on my couch and be mad
Speaker 3: that I was brutally honest to you.
Speaker 5: No, for sure, but also so, I think the people
Speaker 5: who would sign up are stupid, right, just like I
Speaker 5: think some people who go and have try to have
Speaker 5: certain conversations with Cam Newton are stupid right or expect
Speaker 5: I won't say have certain conversations with him, but have
Speaker 5: conversations with him and expect something out of.
Speaker 2: Him that they're not going to get.
Speaker 5: I think there's a level of stupidity in that that
Speaker 5: you're signing up for you can't be mad at same
Speaker 5: thing with the people that listen to him and get
Speaker 5: mad at the things he says. But also at the
Speaker 5: same time, that doesn't make you innocent of what you're
Speaker 5: doing just because somebody signed up for it, like you
Speaker 5: still have. Once you have a platform that large and
Speaker 5: you know that there are young men looking up to
Speaker 5: you what you say, there's not everybody is smart enough
Speaker 5: to realize that you're stupid, So what you say has
Speaker 5: an effect. So when you're trying to we're in an
Speaker 5: era of trying to raise men who respect women and
Speaker 5: value women, and you know that there are little boys
Speaker 5: who look up to you from football to the shit
Speaker 5: that you say. You have to be held accountable for
Speaker 5: the shit that you're pushing.
Speaker 3: But to me, that's the difference between Kevin Samuels and
Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want to play him
Speaker 3: in this. I think I don't think Kevin Samuel's goal
Speaker 3: was ever to get young men to hate women, where
Speaker 3: I do think people like the freshman fig guys, that's
Speaker 3: that's their their insecure goal is to do so with
Speaker 3: twenty two year old prostitutes in Miami as their example.
Speaker 3: As that's if that's every woman in America. I don't
Speaker 3: think Kevin Samuel's goal ever was to do that. I
Speaker 3: think it was to be realistic with who you are
Speaker 3: as a person unless you want to change and become better.
Speaker 3: This is where you ad in life, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: and you could disagree. Kevin Samuons was a fucking god.
Speaker 3: His opinion wasn't fact, but people called in for his opinion,
Speaker 3: so he gave it, which I think is fair.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I never sat there and thought like the feeble minded,
Speaker 3: impressionable young men are going to look at this and
Speaker 3: go I should hate women.
Speaker 1: I don't think that.
Speaker 3: I think that with a lot of this other red
Speaker 3: pill bullshit, but I don't think that.
Speaker 1: Was Kevin Kevin. He was just he was just kind
Speaker 1: of a fucking mean Sassi.
Speaker 2: Ben Samuels had a lot.
Speaker 5: Whether it was his intention or not, he definitely had
Speaker 5: a he was red pill bro, and he.
Speaker 1: Had he would he looked at me.
Speaker 3: He's the John McCain of where now you get to
Speaker 3: maggot Like that's what I'm saying. I don't think he
Speaker 3: was as fucking insane as red pill is now. He
Speaker 3: was red pill one hundred percent. But yeah, not to
Speaker 3: the degree of what it is, like I have these
Speaker 3: views for my party, but they're off the rails now.
Speaker 4: No, I figured out what I'm gonna do. Well, Damn,
Speaker 4: I got my nephew this weekend. But this coming week
Speaker 4: red this come up with. Of course, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go back through I'm gonna go back through the
Speaker 4: Kevin Samuels files. Man, I'm gonna just go back through it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just binge Kevin Samuel's files and just kind of.
Speaker 5: Like just there's so many better things you could do
Speaker 5: with your brain in your time.
Speaker 4: No, No, because it's something specific right now that I'm
Speaker 4: thinking about that I'm looking for and what he was doing,
Speaker 4: and I just want to see if it's dead, that's all. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Because I think again, I think, I think people just
Speaker 4: you know, it became a cool thing to just kind
Speaker 4: of like hate him and you know, clap when he
Speaker 4: died and things like that, like it was stupid. But
Speaker 4: I'm just looking for something in particular, and I just
Speaker 4: want to see if it was But.
Speaker 5: They were all always be and this is this is
Speaker 5: the thing, like there will always be someone happy that
Speaker 5: someone died. Everybody has ops, everybody has haters everybody has like, well,
Speaker 5: that's because he was he was a public figure.
Speaker 2: Respectully, it's gonna be niggas that clap when you die.
Speaker 5: There's gonna be niggas that clap when I die, Like
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like that happens when you're
Speaker 5: a public figure and you enter into the serena and
Speaker 5: sometimes you're gonna say ship that people disagree with.
Speaker 2: It happens.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever clapped when someone died,
Speaker 3: and if I said that, I was lying. I don't
Speaker 3: know if I've ever clapped when someone dies.
Speaker 2: Not literally clapping or like been like, oh good.
Speaker 3: I think Dick Cheney was the biggest piece of ship
Speaker 3: on earth. I wasn't like happy that day, but I
Speaker 3: wasn't sad, like I like, nothing changed.
Speaker 1: I don't even hear.
Speaker 5: Peace being Just ignore him, just like I never met
Speaker 5: the man.
Speaker 3: Oh no, be happy when someone dies to me is
Speaker 3: kind of nuts. But again, like one dictioning out and
Speaker 3: everyone on Twitter was got like, all right, so what
Speaker 3: I agree with what they were saying. But to be
Speaker 3: happy just because someone said some mean shit on the internet,
Speaker 3: that's a little crazy, oh to me, But.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but yeah, I don't know. I do
Speaker 5: feel like, and this is not just for mini's it's
Speaker 5: for women too. I feel like, if you have a platform,
Speaker 5: you're gonna make money off of this platform, because that's
Speaker 5: what we're all trying to do. When you're saying things
Speaker 5: that you know are going to get pushed and they're
Speaker 5: extravagant and that people are gonna comment out them.
Speaker 2: They're gonna end up all these places.
Speaker 5: You do have a responsibility when you look and be like,
Speaker 5: what am I really pushing.
Speaker 2: To these people? What am I really pushing to these
Speaker 2: people with our platform too? But we push silly shit,
Speaker 2: funny shit.
Speaker 5: We don't really push harmful ideologies that can kick in
Speaker 5: the back people in our community.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's it's just weird. It's
Speaker 2: just like everything.
Speaker 5: At one point, do you lay out at bed at
Speaker 5: night and be like, damn, yo, what I'm doing ain't
Speaker 5: really okay?
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, if you're if you're harmed off Cole Kendrick
Speaker 3: and Drake opinions, you deserve to be harmed. Yeah, Like
Speaker 3: that's your that's your fault. That's not what harms you.
Speaker 3: Then that's that that's your journey, marshal people.
Speaker 5: You shouldn't have a you should have a fish take
Speaker 5: or drink PEPSI. I don't really feel like that's really
Speaker 5: like but we're not really changing the game.
Speaker 4: I thought I was giving great advice. I thought I
Speaker 4: was given great advice, and Natty going to clap when
Speaker 4: I die because I said you shouldn't be drinking PEPSI see.
Speaker 3: As Kevin Samuel's being my fraternity brother, I would have
Speaker 3: loved to hear his opinion on that frat hazing video
Speaker 3: that's been going viral.
Speaker 1: I would have loved to hear his sassy yeah, it
Speaker 1: looked like a stink down there. It was at yeo,
Speaker 1: it looked like it was.
Speaker 3: I mean, if if Capa Alphas I was was an
Speaker 3: organization that haze, I'm sure every basement would smell the
Speaker 3: exact same in all fifty states.
Speaker 2: I know that ship Funky.
Speaker 4: A room fellow, what not white out of the funny.
Speaker 3: That was the funniest thing that I said as a white,
Speaker 3: that was fine.
Speaker 1: Wet whites is fucking.
Speaker 2: Arm racist all the time.
Speaker 1: Yo. No no, no, no no, no, wet whites is hilarious.
Speaker 3: No all right, Well then be come back in a
Speaker 3: room full of wet whites is fucking hilarious.
Speaker 4: That's hilarious, wet white. I know it's smell like a
Speaker 4: pet Co bathroom in it, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's rough. They said they be until twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 5: Who's band like their chapter?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all right, they'll be back, give them time
Speaker 4: to counter rebrand.
Speaker 3: I'll just say, because I of course I saw everyone,
Speaker 3: the outrage that was going on in here, the stories
Speaker 3: I've heard allegedly about pledging, like I heard like folk tales,
Speaker 3: campfire stories. All he was doing was standing there in
Speaker 3: the basement, being blindfolded.
Speaker 1: They were wet, though what oat mill? I don't think
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: I think pgba up.
Speaker 1: But they were wet. They were wet. They rubbed oatmeal
Speaker 1: all over each other.
Speaker 3: You y'all never just been y'all never been soaking in
Speaker 3: a basement before, nah?
Speaker 4: Nah, never never said, I'll answer your question, I've never
Speaker 4: been soaking in never fucking the basement, getting a little hot,
Speaker 4: not that hot, like he wasn't both glistening like that. Nah,
Speaker 4: he ain't never been that hot. And we're gonna open
Speaker 4: a window or something.
Speaker 3: This motherfucker I did see that the other side of
Speaker 3: the white fraternity world defending some of the ship that
Speaker 3: if we did allowed hazing, there'd be more men out here.
Speaker 1: But hey, M not as debate I would have on
Speaker 1: a podcast not for me, b but.
Speaker 3: No, that that video was was hilarious because at that point,
Speaker 3: like when do you take your blind photo off?
Speaker 1: If?
Speaker 3: If, if you are allegedly pledging in fraternity, I feel
Speaker 3: like you know the voices of the two people that
Speaker 3: are are leading the charge of the alleged Hayes. He
Speaker 3: would hear a CoP's voice and be like, Yo.
Speaker 1: What I want to know?
Speaker 4: Is there a way we could find this out? How
Speaker 4: many single or how many only childs.
Speaker 1: Are in a fraternity?
Speaker 2: Only children?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Only children. I would like to know that.
Speaker 3: All my line brothers have siblings. Out of all of
Speaker 3: New Jersey, New York, all my travels, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I know one other noop that's the only child.
Speaker 2: How many of them had imaginary friends when they is
Speaker 2: growing up.
Speaker 1: It's where that y'all view that ship that way, though
Speaker 1: we want to get into.
Speaker 4: I have never understood pledging a fraternity, never understood.
Speaker 1: It, which is which is fine.
Speaker 3: I'm never one of those people that when people say
Speaker 3: that that, I get like offended.
Speaker 1: I totally get it.
Speaker 3: I just think you may have an a skewed perception
Speaker 3: of the of the entire thing, because.
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I can only speak for the chapters
Speaker 1: that I've been around.
Speaker 3: I've never met somebody that was looking for friends, Like
Speaker 3: every single time, even with my line brothers, like my
Speaker 3: Crewel friends, their Creel friends, like everyone just became friends.
Speaker 3: We just the seven of us just happened to do
Speaker 3: that that semester, Like nobody was looking for friends.
Speaker 1: I get it. At the same time I don't, but
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: I mean, some people enjoy being around like minded individuals
Speaker 3: with you know.
Speaker 1: Around.
Speaker 4: I enjoy being around like my individual single But when
Speaker 4: you tell me I all of y'all tonight and not
Speaker 4: PM got to go in this basement and put oatmeal on.
Speaker 1: You, I'm not doing this sounds like a great I'm
Speaker 1: not jacking that. I'm like, you know what, I'm just
Speaker 1: not down.
Speaker 5: And you know that they got to like eventually they
Speaker 5: end up like paying like they're paying dues to be like, but.
Speaker 3: I hadn't like pledge you, so I can't speak to that.
Speaker 3: I'm just talking about being in a fraturn. I can't
Speaker 3: speak to hazing or pledging anything, but yeah, it's just
Speaker 3: not I can see how that would that would look
Speaker 3: whid because if I was a cop, I wouldn't even
Speaker 3: think fraternity. Even if I was on a campus, I
Speaker 3: would be like, oh, this is Epstein's cold down here
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: Shirt scared.
Speaker 4: You would have to be like, yo, why they ain't
Speaker 4: got no shirts on what part of Like what am
Speaker 4: I proving? Because I'm down here with my homies and
Speaker 4: we all I ain't wearing no shirts. I had no
Speaker 4: shirts tonight.
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask both of you.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Do you guys have allegedly do you have friends that
Speaker 3: have joined joined a gang?
Speaker 1: I do, wait, I got a lot of friend children.
Speaker 1: Uh where they where? They a lot of them? Where
Speaker 1: they jumped in.
Speaker 2: They were looking they were missing something. They were looking for.
Speaker 4: A chromosome maybe, yes, you know they was missing something.
Speaker 1: Don't do don't do that at home?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, no, no, no, I understand forget like blood
Speaker 3: gangs in general have been around since the dawn of
Speaker 3: time based off that exact principle. Yeah, but you don't
Speaker 3: think that could see something in with a college student
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, for sure, Like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Something missing doesn't necessarily mean something's wrong or you're in
Speaker 3: a search of valiation or a friend or anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a lifelong community that you can be
Speaker 3: around forever.
Speaker 1: Is an important thing to people.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, I didn't go to college and
Speaker 4: I got a lot of homies as like went to
Speaker 4: college part of fraternities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just was never I'm not doing that.
Speaker 3: I think if it defines your entire life, then I
Speaker 3: can understand more of what you guys are saying, which
Speaker 3: I do know some kapa is that, Yes, that is
Speaker 3: their their entire identity has become that from when they
Speaker 3: were nineteen to now when they're in their forties. Yes,
Speaker 3: I think those people were searching for what you guys
Speaker 3: are talking about, but I don't think.
Speaker 1: That's the high majority case. With everything.
Speaker 2: What were you searching for?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it was like a specific thing
Speaker 3: I was searching for or in any regards having.
Speaker 1: To do with.
Speaker 3: Being an only child, because even my line brother Danny,
Speaker 3: who is my best friend at the time, he was
Speaker 3: already my best friend, so it wasn't like I was
Speaker 3: going to meet someone there, but all the principles that
Speaker 3: Kappa stood for in the community and getting to know
Speaker 3: some of the older brothers in Kappa and what they
Speaker 3: had going on in their lives, and the network that
Speaker 3: you had for the rest of your life because it's
Speaker 3: divine nine is not like the white frats of this
Speaker 3: basement shit. I don't want to speak for them, but
Speaker 3: I guarantee once they graduate, that'll be the last time
Speaker 3: they even think about the Like that's not it's not
Speaker 3: a lifelong thing.
Speaker 1: There's alumni chapters, there's so much with Kappa for the
Speaker 1: rest of your life.
Speaker 3: Shit in the music industry, the amount of people I've
Speaker 3: even met because of Kappa.
Speaker 1: That was an important thing to have a community of
Speaker 1: like minded people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like you you figure all of that.
Speaker 5: The community of the like minded people is like, that's
Speaker 5: like straight out to hamd book, like he wrote he
Speaker 5: read that. I feel like that's also a non haz organization.
Speaker 5: I feel like you find all of that out once
Speaker 5: you start pledging.
Speaker 3: No, because that's not true because it's not Again, I'm
Speaker 3: not speaking for white frats.
Speaker 1: You don't just show up that day and then you're
Speaker 1: in a basement with a blindfold.
Speaker 3: No, it's a long process to even be considered for sure,
Speaker 3: to become a member, you have to meet you have
Speaker 3: to get three recommendations, a written letter from members already.
Speaker 1: That takes time.
Speaker 3: The amount of times I've turned it down for people
Speaker 3: like I.
Speaker 1: Don't even fucking know.
Speaker 3: You got to talk to me for six months just
Speaker 3: so I could get to know to see if you
Speaker 3: be a viable candidate, not on some hazinger like I
Speaker 3: just want to get to know this person.
Speaker 2: It is a very long process. What I'm saying is.
Speaker 3: I'd love to get jumped in for thirty seconds and
Speaker 3: be Domino.
Speaker 2: It's a very long process.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is, before all of that, what was
Speaker 5: the first thing that clicked in your head to say
Speaker 5: I want to go like, oh.
Speaker 3: This is this is this is a lifetime thing. And
Speaker 3: on top of that, my best friend's my best friend
Speaker 3: of high school. His mother was a Delta, so she
Speaker 3: was the first person that was like you should look
Speaker 3: at it. I even meet the Greeks look at the
Speaker 3: Q's first, just because she was a Delta and they
Speaker 3: have more of an alliance. But Kappa was way more
Speaker 3: than me. I love C's but Kapa was more for me.
Speaker 1: Oh, I got.
Speaker 2: If you were a que I would not be on
Speaker 2: the spot.
Speaker 1: I can't. I love I love the cues I do too,
Speaker 1: But are you close with the cues and jury?
Speaker 5: I love if you if you were walking that's hung
Speaker 5: around me, would have never been do it?
Speaker 1: Try would I wouldn't. I wouldn't disrespect the cues like that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a it's a full journey in finding that,
Speaker 3: not just one day.
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, I want to do this and one
Speaker 1: thing clicks like it takes a while. I'm respecting fraternity bubble.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all over there. Quiet.
Speaker 3: There's a lot, but like anything else with membership of
Speaker 3: that amount of people for that long.
Speaker 1: Of course, there's bullshit in everything in life. I get.
Speaker 3: It's the same as any joining any other organization. The
Speaker 3: same people do intermurals in college? Why are you joining?
Speaker 1: I don't get to know the people to hear. That's
Speaker 1: how it starts. It's freshman orientation. It's it's all part
Speaker 1: of that college process. Got it? So? Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: Well another week the gang is here.
Speaker 4: Uh so, I guess we're gonna get start on Patreons
Speaker 4: so we could have some more crazy conversations. That's some
Speaker 4: things I want to talk about, coming off of Valentine's.
Speaker 2: Day with the ladies the Secrets on Netflix.
Speaker 1: Sh I want to talk to Zip about.
Speaker 3: I've been at the edge of my seat since Monday
Speaker 3: for the conversation.
Speaker 1: Listen, Gang Gang is here by.
Speaker 3: You said you had already told me you had a
Speaker 3: list of questions for.
Speaker 1: I just want to talk to the lady.
Speaker 4: Just just coming out of Valentine's that I want to
Speaker 4: get everybody's post Valentine's energies on them right when she
Speaker 4: was Zip did for Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1: See if any woman.
Speaker 4: Took care of him for Valentine Yeah, hope, I hope
Speaker 4: hopefully a woman took care of Zip and brought him
Speaker 4: nothing but chocolate.
Speaker 2: And flowers back there laughing. So I don't think he
Speaker 2: got ship.
Speaker 1: Nah, Noah, I don't do that.
Speaker 4: The Zip Zip got some flowers on Valentine's Day. We're
Speaker 4: not doing that. All right, Well, we'll talk to y'all soon.
Speaker 4: Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga, He's just ginger
Speaker 4: Peace