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Speaker 2: All right, not so much energy now.

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Speaker 3: Know.

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Speaker 1: Conserve you have to conserve. Preserve.

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Speaker 3: Wait, we can do a roll starter. Let me see

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Speaker 3: did themors turn her location off with me?

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Speaker 1: Now that I know?

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Speaker 3: That's that's a see it now they even have your location?

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Speaker 3: You don't even know what the mess was?

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Speaker 1: Crazy? You don't even know where she at right now?

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Speaker 1: No location found? I used to have it? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: turn it on on?

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Speaker 2: Did you turn it off a while ago?

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Speaker 1: For what?

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Speaker 2: The fucker? I don't know to know where I'm at?

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Speaker 1: You think I just be like looking at them.

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Speaker 2: The only person with my location?

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Speaker 1: You turn off everybody for everybody? Okay?

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Speaker 3: I thought I feel better now, yeah, way better? I thought,

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Speaker 3: Like specifically, it was like, nah, you can't have it?

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Speaker 4: Is that because we were just told my micro cheating

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Speaker 4: off air? Turning off your location a micro cheat?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Is that considered like if your significant other turns off

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Speaker 1: Is that like micro cheating?

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Speaker 2: No, because there's no one involved in the micro cheating.

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Speaker 5: There's micro cheating has to involve another person's No, what

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Speaker 1: What are you turning your location of for?

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Speaker 2: I'm single and my ship off right now?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, he's saying in a relationship.

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Speaker 5: But I'm what I'm saying, you can just turn it

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Speaker 4: Be fucking found by its significant other, by anybody. Hide

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Speaker 4: and see what's significant?

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Speaker 1: Yeah magnificant others said that to you, how would you feel?

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Speaker 2: Never let them know your next move.

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Speaker 1: Like your boyfriend, your life partner, Never let your teammates

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Speaker 1: your next is crazy, yo, you my boyfriend and all that,

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Speaker 1: But like, nah, you and know what I'm about.

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Speaker 2: To do now to keep you guessing guessing? That is

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Speaker 2: turn it off your location.

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Speaker 5: And I've had I've had people have my location and

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Speaker 5: then turn it off like they were like you, I

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Speaker 5: have your location? You sure you want me to have it?

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Speaker 5: Just because when I'm mad at you, turn that bitch

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Speaker 1: The game. The things we do now is just so fun.

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Speaker 5: Mind, I'm sitting in the crib chill and eating a

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Speaker 5: pint of ice cream. But Nah, E text me and said, wi,

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Speaker 4: See baby, she likes to start fires. You would be

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Speaker 4: like a little pirate. I didn't start fire, but that's

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Speaker 4: what you do. But that's what you do relationships, Like

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Speaker 4: you'll do something like, I know he gonna start panicking

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Speaker 4: gonna start thinking I'm boom by whatever. Right, I'm in

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Speaker 4: but I want him to be panicking wherever he at.

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Speaker 4: You like to do things like that.

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Speaker 5: If you give me a sleepless night, I owe you

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Speaker 5: several Hm.

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Speaker 1: That's sounds like that's in the moment with that's on

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Speaker 5: Nah, ain't an eye for eye, bitch.

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Speaker 1: I gotta preserve I gotta preserve the energy. Chill man.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I have a bitter outlook to the location thing,

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Speaker 1: It at home, like with her eye cloud.

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Speaker 3: I was texting her iPad, but then she could leave

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Speaker 3: I need the IT guy to figure that shit out.

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Speaker 3: But she's like, yeah, girls, we do it all the time.

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Speaker 1: It's tough being in relationships, man.

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Speaker 5: Not if you in relationships with faithful people. If you're

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Speaker 1: But who's faithful though? There's any people that are faithful?

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Speaker 4: What are yet in the world? Because they ain't in

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Speaker 2: I don't how we know he don't text Cole? How

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Speaker 4: He's so mad. She don't know why we text? I

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Speaker 2: Oh god, Maw is a fasting.

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Speaker 4: Deal actually because it's like you get the fast, you

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Speaker 1: Did did you do Ramain last year? Uh? Did? I?

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Speaker 3: Last year, well, I think that's great. And everyone shouts

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Speaker 3: My dad wanted to go down into Postland, I said, Durren, Ramadan, don't. Well,

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Speaker 4: The fun that you think. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, it's

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Speaker 1: You should are fast with me? That should faster? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Oh no, for sure, And then I've done Daniel fast

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Speaker 2: Oh I have Mall's half birthday, has pages mom's birthday?

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Speaker 1: Yes, me and entered on the same day, same.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think you should celebrate Ramadan as well, Peach.

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Speaker 4: And Lent is always white, you know that you ever

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Speaker 3: We have not gotten a single day off of recording

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Speaker 3: It's a Jada Kiss versus Drake to get here. Look

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a moment of clarity, this moment of honesty. Right,

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Speaker 3: But respectfully, if you walked into that barbershop, I think

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Speaker 2: I know what that barbershop look like, and I never

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Speaker 2: They had sneakers, color ways, everything.

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Speaker 4: Hip hop it does though you know it brings, it

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Speaker 5: But if I was to look at you or say

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Speaker 1: Not Yeah, see, baby D, I'm yelling, but not in

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. If I've ever I apologize. I wasn't yelling

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Speaker 4: It wasn't you. You were a part of the conversation,

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Speaker 1: I was not yelling at you. I would never yell

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see where mall's at day seven with all

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Speaker 1: No, man, it's hard to get more.

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Speaker 2: I think the day fifteen might be his breaking.

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Speaker 4: For Listen, I understand, I understand, I get it. I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm not mad at I respect your bubble or respect

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Speaker 1: I respect your love your bubble. Hey, no, it's not

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Speaker 4: How y'all make it's me and Michael Jordan that y'all

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Speaker 1: Michael was weird. It wasn't weird, man, y'all are just weird.

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Speaker 1: The world is weird. That's sorry.

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Speaker 4: I'm respecting people's bubbles. Your bubble is different from Michael

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Speaker 3: How are you celebrating this this weekend with Ramadan?

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Speaker 4: Well, this week it's my nephew's birthday. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: I love you.

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Speaker 4: I'm spending spending the week with my nephew. He's probably

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I've seen I've seen him on Instagram playing golf.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he wants to. He's probably gonna want to do that.

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Speaker 4: and you driving, No, I'm flying down. I will never

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Speaker 4: I'm not sitting on the road for six hours.

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Speaker 1: just asking what bubble are you going down to see it?

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Speaker 1: In the DMV? What bubble are you going down there

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Speaker 1: to see? Virginia? You're going bubble seeing? We can go

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we all got a family Virginia. We all black,

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Speaker 2: Everybody got family and reason all.

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Speaker 4: Got family in Virginia. Definitely. So yeah, that's what I'm

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Speaker 1: You got family Virginia, go down.

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Speaker 3: I had one great uncle in Richmond, Virginia, and now

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Speaker 4: I'm like, that's okay, that's all right down there. I

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Speaker 1: He was old.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I never got to like hang

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I do love the state of Virginia. Virginia's

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Speaker 1: a great time. Love Virginia. Yeah, that should be fun. Then, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Man, I'll be on the golf course hopefully it's the

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Speaker 4: Big Ant once I gotta call him big An. I

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Speaker 1: This is crazy.

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Speaker 3: I love that Money's in town this weekend. I know

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Speaker 4: I was like, damn, Like, and it's it's funny because

443
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Speaker 4: Foggy we always do that like when he's in New York,

444
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Speaker 4: like he has something to show.

445
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Speaker 1: He hit me.

446
00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, why do we keep Like one time

447
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,680
Speaker 4: he hit me? He was in New York and we

448
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Speaker 4: was in d C. You from here?

449
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Speaker 1: How you go up? And we we now we in

450
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Speaker 1: DC like this weekend.

451
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Speaker 4: So shout out to Foggy though, like he definitely hit

452
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,680
Speaker 4: me and invited me to his It's the first album.

453
00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,280
Speaker 3: No, his project actually comes out on the twenty seventh,

454
00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,800
Speaker 3: with no due respect? Is the title the next next Friday? Yeah,

455
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,040
Speaker 3: next Friday. But he's doing the New York run right now. Uh.

456
00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,600
Speaker 3: He put out the features today for a blog, did

457
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Speaker 3: rather lisha key Swizz, Ariy Lennox, Larry June, Harry Fraud,

458
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,440
Speaker 3: and your guy John Legend. It's a big a lester

459
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Speaker 3: for for a first album.

460
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Speaker 4: I'm respecting John Legends, but respecting John Legend.

461
00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm excited for his project. We also get

462
00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,399
Speaker 3: Baby Keen tomorrow. I mean, if you're listening to this,

463
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 3: it is out now, Casino. We made our predictions, but

464
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:07,879
Speaker 3: that's what I'm excited for.

465
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Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to the Keem. I'm looking looking forward

466
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 4: to see what he did with this project. Like you

467
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 4: guys spoke to her. He is an artist that I

468
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 4: think we all anticipate his trajectory, what he's gonna do,

469
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 4: what he's going to sound like. So yeah, it's gonna

470
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,720
Speaker 4: be interesting to listen to that if you're well when

471
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Speaker 4: you're hearing this.

472
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,639
Speaker 1: We we are currently listening to that.

473
00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 3: We also get which I'm just out the loop and

474
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 3: my apologies to hip hop in general. Larry June, Currency

475
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Speaker 3: and The Alchemist are putting out album an oh.

476
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Speaker 1: I didn't call it the Spiral Staircases, but I just

477
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,919
Speaker 1: think I got the Loop man some more luxurious music

478
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Speaker 1: and luxurious rat.

479
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Speaker 3: Once I was ran out of Twitter, man, I feel

480
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 3: like I missed a lot of releases because, like my

481
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 3: Instagram algorithms aren't really like the way my Twitter algorithms were.

482
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 3: Twitter had was way more music hip hop related than what.

483
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Speaker 1: No. It's honestly all kids shit and otters. It's otters

484
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 1: and kidshit lotters. That's my favorite. Found the way to

485
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Speaker 1: my algorithm.

486
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 4: Like the people that own otters and just go swimming

487
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 4: with them and just feed them like frozen fish sticks.

488
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Speaker 1: Love them. I respect the outer bubbles.

489
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I know Demeris know this about me.

490
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 3: But you know that is my favorite animal, like lifelong.

491
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 3: I have like a weird odd obsession. Really yeah, no,

492
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 3: it's like really like one of my hobbies is just

493
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,159
Speaker 3: watching otters. Like I'll go to Staten Island Zoo in

494
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Speaker 3: summertime and just watch the otters. I know it's kind

495
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,679
Speaker 3: of serial killer baby. I've even like research. You know,

496
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 3: you can own a hotter in New Jersey. I just

497
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 3: don't like with my bathtub. It's just not it's an

498
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 3: urban environment. I wouldn't want to do that to an ad.

499
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 3: It'd be like I'd be a good otter dad. But no,

500
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Speaker 3: I just I feel like an otter needs some more space. Yeah,

501
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,719
Speaker 3: but no, that's that's a dream of mine, is to

502
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Speaker 3: own an art like one day.

503
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Speaker 1: I never knew that about you. I'm really in the otters.

504
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Speaker 4: Wow, all right, respect to the out of Bubbles.

505
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Speaker 1: That's mostly my algorithm. I respect it. Listen, man, I

506
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 1: love otters. Very unique animal for sure.

507
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Speaker 5: Do you think twenty twenty six has the potential to

508
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Speaker 5: be close to twenty sixteen with like me music, because

509
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 5: we're getting some rap.

510
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 4: We're getting some really good music, and we got some

511
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 4: good R and B as well, I'm not mad at

512
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Speaker 4: the start. The twenty twenty six is off too. As

513
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,479
Speaker 4: far as the music, I'm not mad at that. Like

514
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Speaker 4: it's a lot of dope music out right now, Like

515
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Speaker 4: I'm not.

516
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Speaker 1: But to say twenty sixteen to me, that's like what

517
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Speaker 1: is it?

518
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: Like you see Haley's comment every fucking twenty generations or

519
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 3: something like, I just don't know if you're ever gonna

520
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 3: get all the stars pun intended to a ligne and

521
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 3: all put out some of their best work in one year.

522
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: Like every A list artist in Legend and Icon now

523
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 3: put out some of their best work that year. I

524
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Speaker 3: just don't know that's it's ever going to align that way.

525
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 4: But even if it's not the legends, even if we

526
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Speaker 4: get some of the newer artists, but they put out

527
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Speaker 4: good albums.

528
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: I thought last year was incredible for music.

529
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not mad at that, but that's what I'm saying.

530
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 4: Last year was good for music. And I think that

531
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Speaker 4: twenty six is off to a good start in February,

532
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 4: and I think we have some really good music already.

533
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm looking forward to Larry June currency Alchemists.

534
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 3: Always looking for Larry June Bronx legend low t J.

535
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: Shout out to Little TJ. I mean, shit, if we're

536
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 3: getting t J tomorrow, it could be like twenty sixteen.

537
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's good. That could be his Saint Pablo,

538
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 3: it could be actually, respect Little TJ.

539
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 1: Could be his lemonade. Absolutely.

540
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 3: We also get a Scissor single Saved the Day, which

541
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 3: I think is attached to a movie. Todd Allan Leon

542
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: Thomas have been teasing this song for about two weeks.

543
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Speaker 3: Now I'll miss you too, looking forward to hearing that

544
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 3: reason putting out an EP, don't play with my.

545
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Speaker 1: Heart shout out my nigga reed.

546
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Speaker 3: We get the first Yeaba I Guess single for her project,

547
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 3: yellow Eyes, and I love.

548
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Speaker 4: Yeba so happy not going at Michael Jordan like that

549
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Speaker 4: what you saying?

550
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Speaker 1: Yellow Eyes?

551
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: Watching it took It took me a quick trying to

552
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Speaker 3: a touch of kids, and I was like, oh, Yellow,

553
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Speaker 3: you're trying to kill MJ for.

554
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: The whole Daytona thing.

555
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 4: You couldn't see, right, thought, Yea, Now all of a

556
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 4: sudden you have a dropping yellow Eyes. Yeah, come on, yeah,

557
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 4: but don't do that. Respect MJ's Daytona bubble. Don't do that,

558
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 4: Yellow Eyes, to realize.

559
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Speaker 1: Yellow eyes. Realize, really, ladies, if you.

560
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Speaker 5: See a nigga with yellow eyes, run far away, Run

561
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Speaker 5: far away, bro. Why because that nigga needs a liver

562
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 5: cleanse and he's gonna die early, and he gonn cheat

563
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Speaker 5: on you before.

564
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Speaker 2: You do it.

565
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: Well, that's because he's dealing with addiction.

566
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: If he has some money, you know, he's gonna die

567
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 3: quick and maybe you get in there, so it's not

568
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 3: that crazy of a time investment.

569
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Speaker 5: And with yellow eyes, don't got life insurance other than

570
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Speaker 5: Michael Jordan.

571
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 4: But Michael we joking. Michael Jordan's eyes aren't yellow. They're

572
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 4: like Konyak.

573
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: Because of the koonyak and the cigars.

574
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 4: Who's a lot of koonyak smokes a lot of cigars.

575
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 4: Mj is in great health. I'm pretty sure he get

576
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 4: the ivy every other night. Like he's cool, he's good.

577
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 3: Well, yes, that athletic ability your body is can probably

578
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 3: handle any when you're a you're a billionaire, it'll be.

579
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Speaker 1: Fine in the athlete like you're an athlete. First, he's

580
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: probably on like his seventh liver.

581
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, the amount of billionaires that probably get like different

582
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 3: like organ transplants without us even though.

583
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you think you think Michael Jordan don't have livers

584
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 4: like that. He has sneakers, probably on his sixth heart. Yeah,

585
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 4: the Jordan brand livers. Y'all don't know nothing about the

586
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 4: Jordan brand livers though. See that's the problem. You could

587
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 4: party all week and then just go get a new liver. Yeah,

588
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 4: come on, that's MJ. Dog from the white woman that

589
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 4: you're dating. Wait, no, what's the kidneys. You can't give kidneys.

590
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 4: You can't give someone your liver.

591
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: You can do liver.

592
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: They just take a little slice.

593
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yep.

594
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: And because the liver regenerates itself.

595
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: Oh, MJ got wild livers.

596
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 4: The livers rejuvenate themselves, regenerate a young white woman snake skin.

597
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 5: Kind of yeah, yeah, kidney, you can do it. You

598
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Speaker 5: can do a partial liver.

599
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Speaker 3: I think when you cut a caterpillar and it becomes

600
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Speaker 3: two caterpillars.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's m J.

602
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Speaker 4: That's big mic I trip him, man, leave Mike alone.

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Speaker 1: Well called Micah pet thank you.

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Speaker 3: We didn't call him that. We just said the video

605
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Speaker 3: was weird. I think in our bubble it's okay to

606
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Speaker 3: say that.

607
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Speaker 4: No, no, you niggas went and figured out his middle

608
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Speaker 4: name was Jeffrey and they try to tie him into

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Speaker 4: some more other shit.

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Speaker 1: I saw you niggas on.

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Speaker 2: Twitter who had to figure that out? I knew that fast, Jim.

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00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean they was like looking, you know,

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Speaker 4: they circled the middle name Jeffrey, and in the times

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Speaker 4: they were living in they.

615
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Speaker 1: Tried to tach.

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Speaker 2: So now every nigga named Jeffrey is a pedophile.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. This is what they try

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Speaker 4: and do to our legends. You see what they try

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Speaker 4: to do. It's crazy. Respect MJ's bubble Man, Maul.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, I did not see the day where Michael

634
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Speaker 3: Jordan would be compared to Jeffrey Epstream just based off

635
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Speaker 3: his middle name. But I also never thought i'd see

636
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Speaker 3: the day where Larrussell was the bad guy of the industry.

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00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 4: Yo, man, this is listen. How many days he becomes

638
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 4: the Lord Jamar of the music industry? How many days

639
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 4: has Larussell been the main character online?

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00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: Now?

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00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 4: This is he's pushing almost a week? Yeah, he's the

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Speaker 4: main How long the week is on online? You only

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Speaker 4: the main character maybe for a day or two, like

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Speaker 4: he's at day five right now.

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Speaker 3: But I mean a lot of that was Larussell's fault.

646
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Speaker 3: And whether this is what he's doing purposely or not,

647
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: he just he's the one not letting it go.

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Speaker 1: People would would have let it go.

649
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: He's tweeting every day, he's putting out freestyles, he's bringing

650
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: up a new points like and another thing like at

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Speaker 3: one am, like.

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Speaker 1: And here I fuck with l Russell. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's a bad guy.

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00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 3: I think you have opinion of Wayne at this point though,

655
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: I think he may be doing more more damage for

656
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Speaker 3: online perception.

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00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 4: He's gonna be fox Man, He's gonna be fine, and

658
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 4: him and Wayne about to drop a record.

659
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Speaker 1: I see how this is gonna go.

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Speaker 3: I hope they put out a record with no substance, like.

661
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Speaker 4: Called no substance, Waynet had no ceilings, right substance.

662
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 5: Larussell tweeted, telling a rapper to stop talking and rap

663
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 5: is the same as telling a nigga to shut up

664
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 5: and dribble, laughing face, laughing face. We quickly become the

665
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 5: same oppressor as we so called. Hey, I don't have

666
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 5: to make a hit song or rap because I said

667
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 5: some shit that you didn't agree with. I don't have

668
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 5: to now prove myself worthy of all I've earned because

669
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 5: you don't like me.

670
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: Bitch, God made me.

671
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: Bitch God. I've never seen bitch god right next to

672
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 1: each other.

673
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: I think it was a bitch comma God made me.

674
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, or he coulda said God made me bitch punk bitch,

675
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 4: punk bitch, just to show that he knows substance. I mean,

676
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 4: Larussell is right though like that he is correct.

677
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 3: But and this has again nothing to do with with

678
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: the joke I was making about Russell commenting all my

679
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 3: adoti shit. I do like when artists do get backlash

680
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: for their opinions now because artists are doing more podcasts

681
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 3: more like their own content. I like to see this

682
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: because y'all have been killing us for a decade for

683
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: having an opinion, not even disrespectful ones, just just music

684
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: opinions the way art should be critiqued, and that I love.

685
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this is L.

686
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: Russell's specific, but a lot of artists, when they get

687
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: a taste of their own shit, there's like, wait, I

688
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 3: can have an opinion. It's like, no, that's what we've

689
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: been trying to tell y'all this entire time. Yeah, we

690
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: don't dislike you as people. We're just being honest about

691
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: how we feel about your music. Everything has to be

692
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: it's the greatest of all Wayne has to be the

693
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: greatest of all time, right.

694
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: I just can't say a single bad word about it.

695
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 4: Do people understand that Wayne has said what L. Russell said.

696
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: That's why I don't understand why this is going like

697
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 4: this many dates. Wayne has said that because he Lorressello keeps.

698
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 5: Reminding people that he said it, Like just if he

699
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 5: would just go quietly like there wouldn't be.

700
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: No I get that, but if Wayne said that about himself,

701
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 4: and La Russell was just saying what Wayne said, why

702
00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 4: are people mad at.

703
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: Like?

704
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: That's the part I'm just having to And I know

705
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 4: that the internet is a weird place, but I'm just

706
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 4: trying to understand why are so many like because we

707
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 4: know Wayne has a yes, Wayne has a hive, I

708
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 4: could say, we can say Wayne has a cult following

709
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: at this point I understand that. So I know when

710
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 4: you have a cult following, you can't say anything about

711
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 4: the person without the fan base piling on you, attacking you.

712
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: And you know, we get that part. But La Russell

713
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: doesn't seem to be affected by any of this. He

714
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 4: knows who he is, he knows what he meant, he

715
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 4: knows how he feels about Wayne, how he holds him

716
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 4: to a high regard as an MC, as a rapper.

717
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: So he's having fun with this.

718
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 4: But when you just look at the optics and say, okay,

719
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: but what are people mad about that, La Russell said,

720
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 4: because literally Wayne has said the same thing.

721
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: Well, because now the currency online and on podcasting and

722
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: I'm not here to the hypocrite. I'm saying we're part

723
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: of that bubble as well. And in that world there

724
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: is currency, whether really be real currency or social currency.

725
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: Off pretending to be outraged about basic music opinions, pretending

726
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: to lose your mind because low Russell doesn't think Wayne

727
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: has a substance that he once thought he had when

728
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: he was sixteen. I think Lil Wayne has substance. Do

729
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: I give a single fuck if l Russell thinks the

730
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: same thing. No, but I could pretend to be fucking outrage, scream,

731
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 3: get a bunch of Wayne fans on my side, and

732
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: now I got a whole week of content. Now I

733
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: could be the president of the Wayne Fan Club, and

734
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: now everyone's gonna follow me, and there'll be comments on this,

735
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: and other stands will come out. The fucking would work

736
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: like fucking roaches, and here we are. Yeah, there's a

737
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: lot of currency in becoming these STAN leaders over the

738
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: last few years. So yeah, it doesn't shock me that

739
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: this has become like a thing. Now you look like

740
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: the hero when you defend Wayne, and I agree he

741
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 3: has substance and Larrussell's wrong, but I don't care.

742
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't give any fuck where you agree that who

743
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: has substance.

744
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: I think low Wayne has a substance, Okay, And even if

745
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: Wayne says I don't have substance, I'm disagreeing with the

746
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: artists that's writing the music. You have substance, Bro, you've

747
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: had substance. You have a lot of bullshit, of course

748
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: you have that, But you also have ten thousand mixtapes.

749
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: There's gonna be some bullshit, but you have substance.

750
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: But I don't.

751
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: I don't care if LARUSSELLO thinks otherwise, and I don't

752
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: think Lrussell gives a fuck that I think otherwise. We

753
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: just all have to pretend like we do.

754
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: Listen, man, Larussell.

755
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: If Larussell has proven anything, he's self sustaining, he'll be

756
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 4: He's literally literally created his own bubble. His work created

757
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 4: his own world, community, everything created his own community. And

758
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: I think this is interesting when he decides to, you know,

759
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 4: sign a deal with a I guess you can call

760
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: Rock Nation a major, It is, right.

761
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: Depending on the deal structure that you do.

762
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: They do.

763
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: They do also have just a distribution company that they.

764
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 4: Opened, So you do that, so you come out of

765
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 4: your bubble to kind of like, you know, integrate with

766
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 4: the outside world.

767
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: Per se. And this is the first thing that happened.

768
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: Soon as you as soon as you leave the pagola,

769
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: who would you leave your backyard? As soon as you

770
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 4: step out of your bubble for one second, this is

771
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 4: what they do to you.

772
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think a lot of times, a lot

773
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: of fans because I saw Larussell getting flack before the

774
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: Wayne thing, but just signing with rock Nation, because he

775
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: was very open about turning down a deal with rock

776
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: Nation a few years ago when rock Nation's whole structure

777
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: was drastically different.

778
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 4: Well, he said there was no numbers attached and at

779
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: the first contract.

780
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: So and I think a lot of fans rightfully so

781
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: get attached to an artist that preaches independence, preachers doing

782
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: things on your own, promotes that type of positive things

783
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: for creators and artists. I think it's important that fans

784
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: do attach themselves to that. But I think sometimes fans

785
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: and listeners can be misinformed to somebody taking that business

786
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 3: model and trying to elevate it. And now they're looking

787
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: at you like a hypocrite because you don't fully understand

788
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: the business Loreussel did not sell out. Rock Nation has

789
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: drastically different deals now where you can partner with somebody

790
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: to elevate your message that you have already in a

791
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: different way on more of a corporate side, to get

792
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: what you're doing out of just your backyard.

793
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: Like he's not supposed to elevate all.

794
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: Right, he's supposed to just forever do the exact same

795
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: business model.

796
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: Well no, I mean, well some people would say, yeah,

797
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: he should just you know, continue doing what he was doing.

798
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: But he's still doing it though. No, definitely, he's still

799
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: doing your own masters, still has full creative control. Absolutely.

800
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: Now there's just a partner that I mean.

801
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: He even said again before the Wayne thing, he said,

802
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: after I signed with rock I watched the amount of

803
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: placements and blogs that were posting my records that had

804
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: never posted before are now posting it. And I know

805
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: some fans specific like Barbs or whatever, would say that's

806
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: some evil rock Nation thing. No, it's just what a

807
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: label or partner does with marketing. That's just literally one

808
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: on one marketing in any business.

809
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, what.

810
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: L Russell was doing in his backyard can be elevated

811
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: to the rest of the world with a part like

812
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: rock Nation. They have the connections to boost that shit

813
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: out there, not fake bots or boost numbers, but get

814
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: your message out there. There's nothing wrong with that, especially

815
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 3: when you have a positive message. I think it's worse

816
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: when if you had a negative one. Yeah, what's wrong

817
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: with him to elevate in that way? But that also

818
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: puts you on Front Street. And now you had an

819
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: opinion that you probably didn't even think before you even

820
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 3: got on the microphone. And now that's that's the catch

821
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: twenty two of it. Now you're in everyone's face the

822
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: same dumb shit.

823
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 4: The verses we all need to see, the Pagola versus

824
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 4: the front points.

825
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: Different platforms.

826
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: That's not not to say Larrussell hasn't brought guests. I

827
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: feel like even like Snoop has been back there, like

828
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 3: he's brought guests there. But Nucci with Front Point, like

829
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: most of that is guest based, whereas Larrussell's is a

830
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: lot of time him and his neighborhood in his community.

831
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'll get it.

832
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like, first of all, shout out

833
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: to what both of those gentlemen the build them with incredible.

834
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 4: But when I say versus, meaning like I love what

835
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 4: both of them have done, Like I want to see

836
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 4: who's going to be at the Pagola with Yeah Russell,

837
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: I want to see who Nuci is bringing to the

838
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: Front Porch. So yes, the Front Porch is definitely guest based,

839
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 4: but the Russell has had some big name Pagola and you.

840
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 3: Want to make it clear too. Nucci started Front Porch

841
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: with his own music. That wasn't like I'm trying to

842
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: do my version of outdoor tiny Desk or some shit.

843
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: That was his ship.

844
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: He was putting his music out and it caught and

845
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: then he's like, well shit, let me have some other

846
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: people up here and making a jam session. And it

847
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: turned into what it turned into. So I hear just

848
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: the verses would be. That'd be tough though, because you

849
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 3: got like a list a list a list shit down

850
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 3: the front porch.

851
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we made it out there. I think that's

852
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: the game changer.

853
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: But we listen, Russell, we still want to go to

854
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: the Pagola.

855
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: We wanted to go years ago. Yeah, we've been talking

856
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: about the years ago.

857
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 4: Never made it happen, But at some point I'm definitely,

858
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 4: definitely I'm gonna make it to the Bogola. Absolutely got

859
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 4: to got to make it to the house. Literally that

860
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 4: the Russell has built.

861
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess before we get off of music and

862
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: nerd shit, did you guys see the even UMG partnership.

863
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 4: I've seen him talking about it online. I've scene reason

864
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: had some things to say about it. I think I

865
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 4: saw when he retweeted it. Whatever reason I say, well,

866
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: he was kind of confused, like like, all right, so

867
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 4: what is this?

868
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: Like?

869
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there still needs to be a bit

870
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: more information coming out with what their partnership means exactly.

871
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 3: But it's it's the majors pivoting to direct to consumers.

872
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 3: It's what we do with Patreon, going directly to the

873
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: people that listen that want to pay just for you.

874
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: Whereas, oh, these are the labels playing Ketchup again? Yeah

875
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: got it? Okay, Yeah, that's what you had to say.

876
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: The same way when they played ketch Up with streaming,

877
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: and then because they had the catalog they could own it.

878
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 3: And now us as consumers are like, no, I'm paying

879
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: twenty bucks for this shit, but I only listen to

880
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 3: two artists. I'd rather give my twenty dollars to the

881
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: two artists.

882
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: That I fuck with.

883
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: I don't want to give it to Spotify to have

884
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: the whole catalog of music. I'd rather my money go to.

885
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: This goes back to the stand culture we were talking about.

886
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 3: Stand culture has become so prominent and everything has its

887
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: positives and negatives. But I think platforms like Even or

888
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: Patreon or anyone that goes direct to consumer with a

889
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: paywall that you can pick is great for the stand culture.

890
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: That's the positive part of stand culture. People will really

891
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: support these artists. They don't need anything else. So yeah,

892
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: it's it's labels playing catch up with with direct consumer.

893
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: That's really all the entire thing is. I don't know

894
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: exactly how they're gonna pivot it or like if all

895
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 3: umg artists are now going to have their own Even account,

896
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: but like you know, Coals used Even.

897
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: It's a big platform.

898
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: But I guess I just didn't see the outrage because

899
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: I've seen plenty of major sign other independent companies and

900
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: sub labels, and I don't think it's any different than that.

901
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 5: Can you break it just a little bit more, because

902
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 5: I'm sure there's a lot of people that don't know

903
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 5: what Even is.

904
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: I know exactly what it was.

905
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 3: I assume a lot of people that listen to this

906
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: show know what Patreon is. It's a paywall where we

907
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: can set different tiers for different prices.

908
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: We can tell you what.

909
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 3: You get for this this amount of content for this price.

910
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: Even it's pretty much the same thing with music. If

911
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 3: I want to put a record out to my fans

912
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 3: a month in advance before it hits TSPs, that's an

913
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: option I can do. It's it's really just a direct

914
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 3: to consumer option for for your music.

915
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: Shout out to Shooters, Shout out to rock Marcie, Shout

916
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 4: out to those guy guys like that that have been

917
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 4: doing this yeah type of thing for years direct to

918
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 4: consumer with their fan base. And this is again, this

919
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 4: is just essentially the majors now getting into that.

920
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: Now.

921
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 5: Before with before with even, you had to have owned

922
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 5: if you wanted to go to direct to consumer, you

923
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: had to own all of that content order to give

924
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 5: it to the consumer for a price. Now u MG

925
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 5: is allowing that catalog to be used. So like if

926
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 5: you are releasing something that is going to be under UMG,

927
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 5: if a fan wanted to get it early, you can

928
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 5: still do that, where before you couldn't because UMG owns it.

929
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 4: Either way, UMG is getting a cut. Yeah, and I

930
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 4: guess this back catalog like or just.

931
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: Nothing means all right. For example, I don't want to

932
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 3: use the artist's name, but an artist that we all

933
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: love that maybe live near Demaris at one point in

934
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: their entire life, he got into a problem with Even

935
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: and Even ended up getting sued because that artist owed

936
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: another label a project and he put that project out

937
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: on Even without permission to do so. So Even has

938
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: ran into a lot of different lawsuits. Some you can

939
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: research on your own. I'm not going to get into it,

940
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 3: but most of them have been catalog based or artists

941
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 3: trying to utilize Even when they're already in a deal

942
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: with somebody else. So you're technically selling music that a

943
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: major or whatever independent label you have is entitled to,

944
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: but you're putting it over here on Even. It's like

945
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: it's similar if we have something Netflix and put it

946
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: on Patre, Like it's that same thing.

947
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Now when you partner with the UMG.

948
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: I assume Even would probably prefer that because now I'm

949
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: not going to have as many lawsuits and I have

950
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: a partner with more artists that would be seamless and

951
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 3: trying to get music out. If we're all friends here,

952
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: then we can all utilize this platform the best way

953
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 3: we can instead of fighting with artists labels when they're

954
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 3: trying to put shit on your platform. So it's a

955
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 3: smart business move on even. And that's another thing, kind

956
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: of full circle to the Larussell thing. I saw a

957
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: lot of artists mad with Even, like evens supposed to

958
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: be fighting your independent fight. Everyone is in this business

959
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: to make money as well, and I don't think even

960
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 3: for the good of the culture wants to get sued

961
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: every day and not be able to grow their company

962
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: and also make money. So I hear y'all, but not

963
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: everything is revolutionary. Some people just come in this business

964
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: to make money.

965
00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: That is a fact.

966
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: Just because we're independent doesn't mean I'm not here to

967
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: turn a profit like this isn't a five to one

968
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 3: three seed though.

969
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm want to make money.

970
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: I'm here to make money and if that has to

971
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: do with changing with the times. And I'm sure Spotify

972
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: didn't want to fucking partner with Sony and Universal, but

973
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 3: you got to.

974
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: You got the catalog. I got no choice.

975
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could just be a hero in Sweden for

976
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: a couple hundred thousand people, or I could grow it

977
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: to be the biggest dsp ever, which would you.

978
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 4: Pick makes sense to me. Listen, it's business. It's business.

979
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 4: That's people better understand it's all. It's all apart the business.

980
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: And I get why fans are verse commerce. I'm one

981
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: of those people too, where it's fucked up with This

982
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: is also people's job. They not everything is for the

983
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 3: love of the culture.

984
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: Sometimes people just.

985
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 4: Knowing most things aren't for the love of the culture.

986
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: Like did I love with what Nipsey did with one

987
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: hundred dollars mixtape? Absolutely incredibly great for the culture. That

988
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: was a staple. It did prove a model at a time,

989
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: was amazing. Nipsey also made a lot of fucking money

990
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: that I'm sure he was happy about. Absolutely, I'm sure

991
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: he was.

992
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: Like, you know what, no, no, no, anybody that hip hop? Yeah,

993
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: give that. You know what I'm saying, get that hip

994
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: hop and ja Z. Don't give me ten thousand dollars

995
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: you're one of my mixtapes. I don't need that. Yeah, yeah,

996
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: I bet. Yeah. You wish all this would stay.

997
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Larrussell wants to make money like the

998
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 3: rest of us too.

999
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you can balance it as you should.

1000
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: I've never had a real issue with Demaris until she

1001
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: typed this on our screen. The Baby dropped a new

1002
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 3: album coming off a hot single.

1003
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 4: Demarras, I'm sorry, I'm respecting your producer, Bubble. I'm respecting

1004
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 4: the producer Bubble. The Baby dropped a new album coming

1005
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 4: off a hot single, blazing hip hop and arvy. Now,

1006
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: can I ask the question that scorching you and I

1007
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 4: probably want to know the answer to, what was the

1008
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: name of the singer? U?

1009
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: Pop it?

1010
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 3: If I'm my mistaken I like the Baby. I just

1011
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: think the term hot sing.

1012
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 4: I love the Baby, but I just didn't know the

1013
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 4: single that I don't know either, Pop that thing?

1014
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: Pop that thing?

1015
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: Can we play it real quick? Just do pause because

1016
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: I'm trying to see if I've heard it before. Yep,

1017
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: all right, No, I have not heard that Scorch a

1018
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: new single. I do like it, And don't take this

1019
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: as any fact. This is just my opinion with my algorithms,

1020
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: I'm not saying as a fact. I've started to notice

1021
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: I feel like the Baby's black Bolt. I feel like

1022
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: he's kind of kicked out the algorithms, like I should

1023
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: know that the Baby has a single out, like I

1024
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 3: keep up with with his music. I wouldn't say I'm

1025
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: a diehard fan by any means, but I am a

1026
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: casual fan that would at least know you're putting out

1027
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: a single and pay attention to shit that I don't

1028
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: even care about.

1029
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: Do you follow the Baby on any social media sites?

1030
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: No?

1031
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: On Instagram.

1032
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: That's why I said a lot of my shait with

1033
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: Twitter was all hip hop stuff and Instagram like, well,

1034
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 3: I'm not going to follow. I wouldn't expect the Baby

1035
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,479
Speaker 3: to follow me either.

1036
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: Like I discover all new music on TikTok.

1037
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 5: So the reason why I said hot single is because

1038
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 5: that song is huge on TikTok, same as the Juvenile

1039
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 5: song that you guys hadn't heard about.

1040
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: That juvenile record is fire BBB is big on TikTok

1041
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: that record is.

1042
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 5: So that's where I discover almost all new music now,

1043
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 5: because unless you curate your Instagram feed perfectly, you're not

1044
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 5: going to discover new yeah on Instagram.

1045
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: I just feel like outside of the fake canceling of

1046
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 3: the baby and other ship that was going on, of course,

1047
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: I knew he wouldn't be as in our face as before.

1048
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: I just feel like he's some form of black ball

1049
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: that has happened, Like he's not in anything that that

1050
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: I see.

1051
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 5: He's been saying that he's blackballed for a while, so

1052
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 5: I also think it just might be that once you

1053
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 5: become unlikable to the masses, whether you earned it or not,

1054
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 5: once you become unlikable to the masses, nobody's gonna report

1055
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 5: on you because no.

1056
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 3: One Carestyahu's probably the most reported on person in the world.

1057
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: My bad, it was right there. I didn't know. I'm sorry. Apologize. Hey,

1058
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: my bubble, my bubble, you know what's wrong with you?

1059
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: But no, I like. I like that the baby's putting

1060
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: out music. Shit.

1061
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: Sometimes he'll end up be in my YouTube algorithms when

1062
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 3: he's cooking food, but it's it's not rapping.

1063
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 5: He just had recently had an interview. I would have

1064
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 5: to look up who the gentleman was, but he had

1065
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 5: an interview. He's doubling down on his comments. Basically, what

1066
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 5: he was saying is that his comments that he said

1067
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 5: about like you know, show your phone if you're not

1068
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 5: sucking dick in the parking lot, or if you don't

1069
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 5: got HIV AIDS and things like that. He said that

1070
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 5: if like Kanye says stuff like that all the time,

1071
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 5: and like, you know, Kanye does what he does and

1072
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 5: gets out of it. He said, but because he's the

1073
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 5: baby and he's a household name, like, he can't get.

1074
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, I get it. Wait. I want to make

1075
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: sure that you're paraphrasing correctly.

1076
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: I am, I can play it.

1077
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to.

1078
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: That's what he said. He want to shit on a

1079
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: baby right now.

1080
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 3: If he didn't say that, because that's the craziest statement

1081
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 3: I've everd that's what he said.

1082
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 4: See, the thing is this, and I'm glad to marriage

1083
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 4: he said what she said because I didn't even know

1084
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 4: the baby said that. And Rory can attest to this.

1085
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 4: I fuck with the baby been singing his praises for

1086
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 4: years later. I think the problem. The problem is I

1087
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 4: don't think the baby has shown much growth musically, and

1088
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 4: I think that's part of the problems because you can

1089
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 4: say something and be quote unquote canceled and all of this.

1090
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 4: But like you say, Kanye could say something, and you know,

1091
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 4: Kanye has said the craziest of the crazy things. But

1092
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 4: the difference is Kanye's talent level and the music is

1093
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 4: always going to bring people back to the table to

1094
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: listen to it and to support it because.

1095
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: It's just that good. The talent and the art is

1096
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: that good.

1097
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 4: So while the baby may be blackballed in certain circles,

1098
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 4: and you know, people in his fan base, you know,

1099
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: might not you know, they might be mad at him,

1100
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 4: But I'm a firm believer in the only people that

1101
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 4: cancel you are people that never truly supported you. Like,

1102
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 4: when people support you because they know you, they know you,

1103
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 4: know your your demeanor, they know you know the type

1104
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 4: of person you are. You could say things that's kind

1105
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 4: of like, all right, that was wild, But because your

1106
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: fans and your people know you and support you, they

1107
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 4: know that you know, you just had a bad moment,

1108
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 4: but they're not going to cancel you and never support

1109
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 4: you again.

1110
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: Like, so, you know, I get what the baby saying.

1111
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 4: He may he may have a right to feel like

1112
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 4: he's being black ball Maybe he's not invited in the

1113
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 4: same rooms he was invited in before. He might not

1114
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 4: be invited back to the Grammys for a while. He

1115
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: might not be invited back to you know, Jayleen or

1116
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 4: wherever he was at before his.

1117
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: Name stream mainstream.

1118
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: But your fans.

1119
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 4: When it comes to streaming your music and come into

1120
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 4: your show, they're not canceling you for what you said.

1121
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: Your fans are not canceling you for.

1122
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 2: Is it possible he didn't build.

1123
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 5: He didn't have enough time building the cult fan base

1124
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 5: to avoid that.

1125
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I don't think, no, you have to build.

1126
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: He doesn't build a cult fan base in order to

1127
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: do that.

1128
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 5: No, Otherwise you have a fan base full of casual fans.

1129
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 5: So then when you get canceled, they're not standing by

1130
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 5: you because they were casual fan.

1131
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 4: I like the baby, but he hasn't put out the

1132
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: type of art that would attain or acquire a cult

1133
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 4: fan base. Like that's that you got to You get

1134
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: into a different level of art and a different level

1135
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: of talent when you talk about cult fan base, like,

1136
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 4: it's just a different it takes a different thing to

1137
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 4: break through that ceiling of I now have a cult following.

1138
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 5: Well, no, it doesn't always have to be talent, because

1139
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 5: you know, we have spoken about artists who we don't

1140
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 5: think are that talented that have a cult fan base

1141
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 5: that has gotten them very very successful, Like they'll be

1142
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 5: at every show of them niggas just sending their screaming demonic.

1143
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: True, because Playbek.

1144
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 4: Carter can say exactly what the Baby said, and he's

1145
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 4: his streaming and everything, which, yeah, it's still be a

1146
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 4: number one album, it will still be her.

1147
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 2: Cult fan base.

1148
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 5: I think takes time and consistency, and I don't think

1149
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 5: that the Baby had all of that before he did

1150
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 5: what he did now.

1151
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 4: His trajectory before that, he was definitely trending up, Oh

1152
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 4: for sure.

1153
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: That's why I think both bubbles can be true, because

1154
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: both things can be true. There that he didn't really

1155
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 3: evolve with his music, but that shit happened before he

1156
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: had the chance to even do so. And if you're

1157
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 3: not evolving with your music and you're also not quote

1158
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: unquote likable, now, both things are fucked up because I

1159
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 3: think to your point, yes, you don't get canceled, but

1160
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: if you're also not evolving to create a core fan base,

1161
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: and now you're unlikable the casual fan, even if they

1162
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: don't care about what you said, you may not be

1163
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 3: in their out rooms anymore. Because Baby was very much

1164
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: a streaming artist, big on Spotify, big on YouTube, I

1165
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 3: think he could have got there. Like the Kirk album

1166
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 3: I thought had substance on it. I think he was

1167
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 3: on his way to being one of the best visual

1168
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 3: artists with music videos of that era, and yeah, I

1169
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: do think that definitely affected it. I don't think it

1170
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: canceled the baby, but he was on his way to

1171
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 3: starting to create a fan base. And then when you

1172
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: become unlikable to mainstream, you're not in everyone's faces and

1173
00:49:58,600 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: they were moving on to other shit.

1174
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 5: In this same interview, he was talking about how like,

1175
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 5: I'm not changing for nobody, I'm not this like it's whatever.

1176
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 5: Like he was just kind of like doubling down on it,

1177
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 5: like I am who I am. All the niggas clean

1178
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 5: shit up, I'm not cleaning shit up.

1179
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: Da da da da.

1180
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 5: And the thing is, like, I hear you. But then

1181
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 5: you can't complain about being just blackballed because it's not

1182
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 5: just the industry that are blackballing you. You kind of

1183
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 5: you had a good two years where you did a

1184
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 5: lot of shit at the wrong moments that rubbed multiple

1185
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 5: people wrong. Like if you're your rap artist, if you

1186
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 5: just attack the gay community, like eventually you'll be fine,

1187
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 5: right every day damn near every rapper has attacked the

1188
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 5: gay community at one point, But then you also have

1189
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 5: all this shit going on with you and your baby

1190
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 5: mother that's like, doesn't look that great, and then at

1191
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 5: the same time you bring Tory on stage when he's

1192
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 5: in the hot seat, right, So now you don't piss

1193
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 5: the women all you don pissed the gaze off you

1194
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 5: and pissed the women off you. Then you go and

1195
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 5: make a song when Megan's going through all her shit saying, oh,

1196
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 5: same night she said she got shot by Tori, I

1197
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 5: fuck Meghan the Stallion.

1198
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: It was just too much combined lame shit at once.

1199
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: And that's that's on the pr side.

1200
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 3: Also on the liability side, you have to remember, baby,

1201
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 3: whether he was right or wrong of people touching him

1202
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 3: at the club or whatever it felt like for three

1203
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 3: months straight he was whooping people ass like every event

1204
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: he was hosting, somebody was getting punched like no, I'm

1205
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: not I'm not doing this like you too much of

1206
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: a liability, Yeah, that's that's whether he's protecting himself. I'm

1207
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 3: not here to debate that because I think that's unfair.

1208
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 3: I don't know how he felt at the time, if

1209
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 3: he felt like he was being threatened and needed to react,

1210
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: I'm not here to debate that. But when it every

1211
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: fucking headline every time you host something, or every time

1212
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 3: after a fucking festival you are. Your security is knocking

1213
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 3: somebody the fuck out. Yeah, you're not gonna be You're

1214
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 3: not gonna be at the festivals like you were before. Yeah,

1215
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: it was just too much at once.

1216
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 5: Like you can say, everybody says dislikable shit every once

1217
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 5: in a while, but like you just had too much

1218
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 5: at once when you were at like the height of

1219
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 5: your career, and.

1220
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: Then you continue to like double down on it.

1221
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 5: There's no like, I'm sorry, there's no and I get that,

1222
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 5: but now you got to deal with the consequences of

1223
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 5: those actions.

1224
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: You can be the bad guy, but that that art

1225
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: better be fucking incredible.

1226
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can be the villain.

1227
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: So I'm saying, if it doesn't evolve, you can't also

1228
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: be disliked.

1229
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 4: Right, you can be the villain, but you gotta be

1230
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 4: putting out art that's undeniable. It got to be at

1231
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 4: a certain level at all times. And that's just the

1232
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 4: reality of it. Because I feel the baby saying, you

1233
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 4: got dudes out here that you know, got sexual assault

1234
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 4: on them, got all kind of shit on them, still

1235
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 4: doing shows, selling out arenas, selling the albums, streaming out, streaming. Well,

1236
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: so I understand what he's saying, there's a lot of

1237
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 4: people out here that have shit on him that's like,

1238
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 4: you know, would be deemed worse than what the baby

1239
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 4: did or say right, hell yeah, But again I get it.

1240
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: I'm on the side of the baby. I understand what

1241
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 4: he's saying. It's like because Okay, I said that, Yeah

1242
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 4: I shouldn't have said. That was a mistake, But I

1243
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 4: ain't got no essay on my jacket though, and his

1244
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 4: dudes would essays all over they jackets like a motherfucking

1245
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 4: high school classroom, and they just out here winning. Ain't

1246
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 4: canceled nowhere getting all the looks and you know, lose

1247
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 4: a show, get a show back, you know what I'm saying.

1248
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 3: Like, but I think that kind of speaks to the

1249
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: point we were all making with the tornado shit that

1250
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: happened with the baby, because that's the irony of cancel culture.

1251
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 3: Everyone appears like they care in the moment that much,

1252
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: but most people don't give a fuck enough to even know.

1253
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: About your essay cases or whatever.

1254
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 3: Like I'm not putting anything on Kodak because I don't

1255
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 3: know a lot about that case. But even if you'd asked,

1256
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 3: like the regular casual Kodak fan, they probably know nothing

1257
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 3: about that case.

1258
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: But the baby. If he would have just said, yo,

1259
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: make some.

1260
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 3: Noise, if you didn't suck your man's dick in the

1261
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 3: parking lot, and that's all he did, we would not

1262
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 3: be having this conversation right now. Yeah, it was the

1263
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: amount of things that kept piling on, doubling down. Kodak

1264
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 3: went to jail, and most people didn't even fucking know

1265
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 3: until somebody said, for Kodak, and he's a huge artist,

1266
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 3: Casual fans don't know that much about your personal life. Yeah,

1267
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: we're podcasters, We fucking know way more than most people

1268
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: because this is our job an obsession. But the regular

1269
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: person listening to Kodak, I guarantee you couldn't tell you

1270
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:14,479
Speaker 3: much about that case.

1271
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 5: And every single time you do something new, they're gonna

1272
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 5: bring up the old shit too. So now it's just

1273
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 5: like it just keeps getting rehashed and rehashed. That's why

1274
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 5: I was I think the baby makes even stuff like

1275
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 5: I know you guys say there's been no growth, but

1276
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 5: like this song, the song was sexy read like I

1277
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 5: think that I was shaking music, you see what I'm saying.

1278
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 5: So I think he could do fine, But every time

1279
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 5: he gets another opportunity where we done forgot for a

1280
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 5: little bit, he come back, puts some hot shit out.

1281
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: He keeps doubling down on old situations.

1282
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 5: If you're gonna go to interviews, tell them niggas stop

1283
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 5: asking you about that shit. Yeah, especially if your answer

1284
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 5: is not gonna change, you're not gonna apologize, tell them

1285
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 5: stop asking you.

1286
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 3: And again, I always felt like he was talking about

1287
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: somebody specific, not a community.

1288
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, with those comeds, some bod talking about somebody's specific.

1289
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 3: Oh no, I think that happened that day. I think

1290
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 3: somebody was sucking dicking that parking lot. Well, I mean

1291
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: I think I think whoever was supposed to get that

1292
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: message heard that message. That was not about a community,

1293
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 3: that was about that. It made no sense. Go listen

1294
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 3: to that clip. It makes no sense to just randomly

1295
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: yelled it out. That was about somebody that was backstage.

1296
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 3: I have no if this was just my my own

1297
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: tinfoil hackensperer, go listen to that clip.

1298
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: Nobody would just blurt that out. Nobody would literally like

1299
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: that's Tourette's.

1300
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 3: Nobody would literally just yelled out how long that was

1301
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 3: about somebody backstage?

1302
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 2: For if I'm not mistaken twenty one.

1303
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was was I thought it was

1304
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: before COVID.

1305
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't before because it was after. It was

1306
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 5: after Meg got shot.

1307
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, I guess so. Yeah, when the world

1308
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 3: started to open up again.

1309
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: M hmm.

1310
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also a crazy time, not for the obvious

1311
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 3: with with Meg, but Meg and the Baby were kind

1312
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 3: of like the male and female parts of each other

1313
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: with singles even some of the criticism. You guys have

1314
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 3: similar like flows all the time, COVID, Like when y'all

1315
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: were about to go on your run Run it got weird.

1316
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: And then obviously with Meg a whole seven.

1317
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 2: Now we're the same show.

1318
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 5: He bought he snuffed toryout, he snupped out on stage

1319
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 5: that when Meg was there, that was it was too

1320
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 5: much like a couple of shit at.

1321
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 3: Once, Like, yeah, I hear that, and but forgot about

1322
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 3: to Kanye in that. And I think Kanye has said

1323
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: and way more in the same things than the Baby

1324
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 3: has probably ever even thought it's just like, come.

1325
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: On, what are we talking about.

1326
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,479
Speaker 3: We had Kanye for twenty years before he really lost

1327
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: his fucking mind.

1328
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you.

1329
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 4: Got the college dropout and Jesus walks and flashing lights.

1330
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 4: You know, niggas said what Kanye said, You're gonna be

1331
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 4: at his show looking like Jay when Jay was like.

1332
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: This looking up light.

1333
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 4: It's just like money, This nigga got joints. You can't

1334
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 4: cancel this nigga. You can't cancel Kanye. Like what do

1335
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 4: we talk about?

1336
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 3: It's all nasty, but yeah, twenty years of being loved of,

1337
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 3: yeah you get you get a few passes.

1338
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: Versus twenty four months.

1339
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeahs of great records, but the same flow, like

1340
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 3: we could.

1341
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: I can move on, I really fuck with the baby.

1342
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: I can move on, but like I'm not really I

1343
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 3: want to make that clear because I know that that's

1344
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 3: something that I don't think the podcast world gives the

1345
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: baby of how talented he is and the support I

1346
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 3: think he is great, And if he disappeared after that

1347
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 3: and like really got canceled, I like my.

1348
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: Life wouldn't have altered.

1349
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 3: Like you take Kanye's catalog out, A lot of our

1350
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: lives altered.

1351
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 4: Not only that though, and I think we spoke to

1352
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 4: this around that time too. Like the one thing that

1353
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 4: I think people aren't put taken into account when it

1354
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 4: comes to the baby is, here's somebody who's he has

1355
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 4: a lot of mental.

1356
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: Shit going on, like killed somebody in Walmart.

1357
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, like somebody was trying to kill him. If you know,

1358
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 4: a robin in front of his family had to kill him.

1359
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 4: His brother was killed. I believe like his father past

1360
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 4: Like here is there is clearly somebody here with a

1361
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 4: lot of PTSD, a lot of issues who can probably

1362
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 4: turn into a very cold, very I don't give a

1363
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 4: fuck with nobody thinks, uh, you know, like I can

1364
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 4: understand how somebody could have that energy on them going

1365
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 4: through the things that you know, the baby has has

1366
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 4: been through, and I think that, you know, because somebody

1367
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 4: has a talent and as an entertainer, we kind of

1368
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 4: just put that to the back burner, like nah, you're

1369
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 4: supposed to be this you know, you're supposed to get

1370
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 4: everything right and be this perfect person all the time.

1371
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 4: It's like this dude is clearly has some mental things

1372
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 4: going on, like he's not. We don't I don't know

1373
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 4: if the baby has ever gotten therapy for that, which

1374
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 4: is you know, you kill somebody, you definitely need to

1375
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 4: go to therapy. Your brother gets killed, I can tell

1376
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 4: you definitely need to go to therapy, like, you know,

1377
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 4: we sometimes I feel like, yes, the baby says some

1378
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 4: things they shouldn't have said.

1379
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: He's human, he made a mistake.

1380
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 4: But you also have to understand here's somebody that we're

1381
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 4: talking about who it is probably just not mentally as

1382
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 4: healthy as most people should be. I think we just

1383
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 4: need to, you know, factor that into it. At the

1384
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 4: same time. I understand what he said hurts some people.

1385
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 4: I get that, But fact then too, he's dealing with her,

1386
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 4: he's dealing with trauma, he's dealing with his own shit

1387
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 4: mentally like, but we got to add that into people.

1388
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 5: When you have been doubling down for five years, the

1389
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 5: mistake goes out the window. Yeah, you say you don't

1390
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 5: regret what you said, and you will say it again.

1391
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 5: The mistake goes out the window.

1392
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 4: Right, I understand it. But do you understand that with

1393
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 4: that energy is routed in or that energy is routed in.

1394
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck about what nobody got to say.

1395
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 4: Because somebody tried to kill me or harm me and

1396
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,959
Speaker 4: my family at one point, I don't give a fuck.

1397
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 4: It's me against the world. It's easy to develop that energy. Sure,

1398
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 4: when you go through shit like that, that's all I'm saying.

1399
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 4: I'm not defending it. I'm just saying, as a as

1400
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 4: a black man in America, looking at somebody like that

1401
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 4: and what he's been through and unknowing people that have

1402
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 4: been through the type of shit the baby has been through,

1403
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 4: I get it. I understand how you get to a

1404
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 4: point where like, I don't give a fuck with nobody

1405
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 4: got to say niggas, No, nobody give a fuck about me.

1406
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 4: I know how easy it is to develop that energy,

1407
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 4: It's all I'm saying. So that's all I'm saying. The

1408
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 4: Baby sometimes you just gotta factor that in as well.

1409
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: That perspective bleeds over into your career. Everything brain brain

1410
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 3: is now wired that way.

1411
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 4: You put a mic in my hand, right, It just

1412
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 4: doesn't excuse me. I'm not excusing it. I just understand

1413
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 4: it a little better than some people may understand.

1414
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: Did you. The Kirk album is my favorite Baby album.

1415
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 3: That intro pretty much speaks to everything that I should

1416
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: as a Baby fan. Before Kirk came out, I didn't

1417
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: even know all the shit he went through. That intro

1418
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 3: on the Kirk Album was one of my favorite records

1419
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: of twenty ninety. Yeah, like he's been through some some

1420
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: shit that you have to at least factor in. I'm

1421
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 3: not saying the things he says are okay, but they're

1422
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 3: not literally harming people. At that point, we could stop

1423
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 3: what's going on.

1424
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 4: But like I get it, and wrap everybody gangster shit.

1425
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 4: You know, I'll kill you all. Shoot y'all well Sebach

1426
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 4: and I watch you. Yeah, I get it. Not until

1427
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 4: you really do it.

1428
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: Do you really know and understand.

1429
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 4: What that does to you mentally and you know how

1430
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 4: it changes you and affects you as all what I'm saying,

1431
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, factor that in a little bit. When

1432
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 4: y'all talk about canceling people, Just kind of facting what

1433
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 4: they've been through in their real lives is all I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You feel the same way about Cam because Cam keeps

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01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: just he's digging himself in a hole?

1461
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: What Cam do now? Who talks about him yesterday?

1462
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 5: Oh new and you got can Bro.

1463
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right Cam.

1464
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 3: If you would said Cam, I would have thought Cam

1465
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 3: rad Yeah, I think Cam Newton.

1466
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1467
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 3: I feel like we just talked about him on yesterday's

1468
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 3: episode at mart Baby D.

1469
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: He's leaning into it, he's leaning into that villain.

1470
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: So I know him, but this is this is the villain.

1471
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 4: How long before Cam Newton cut the dreads off, go bald?

1472
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 4: How long before he gets into that you know that

1473
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 4: zone where it's all the way I'm the villain now,

1474
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1475
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: I think that the dreads through the hat is his

1476
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: joker aesthetic. That's the righteous, that's the righteous vieling.

1477
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: That it is more horrible. I would hate him less

1478
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: if he had.

1479
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 4: That's that's the righteous villain. He's the righteous villain right now.

1480
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 4: But he's trended. He's trended. Cam Newton is a rich

1481
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 4: Look at all of our fair movies, the villain was

1482
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 4: always bald, Like you know what I'm saying, Like we

1483
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 4: got to he's trending to cutting it all off, is

1484
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He's saying things where it's like yeah,

1485
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 4: he about to go all the way. He about to

1486
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 4: just go all the way, like, let me be the

1487
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 4: let me be the Internet's bad guy, let me be

1488
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 4: the guy that everybody hates and they're like, Yo, this

1489
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 4: guy is an idiot, he's an asshole, he's whatever. He

1490
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 4: doesn't like women, he doesn't respect women. He's misogynistic. I

1491
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 4: see Cam Newton going all the way.

1492
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 5: But what we were disagreeing about is you work, like

1493
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 5: I said, you stand up for people a lot. In

1494
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 5: our previous episode, we say you stand up for people

1495
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 5: and say he doesn't really think that. He's just like

1496
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 5: being an entertainer. And I'll be telling you two things

1497
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 5: could be true. He can be leaning into it to

1498
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 5: be entertaining, but he also believes this shit.

1499
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he don't.

1500
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 5: Just put them talking points out the side of his

1501
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 5: ass like he You can tell he stands on that shit.

1502
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: He believes it.

1503
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 3: He's had those conversations a few times off Michael. Yeah,

1504
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 3: I don't think he's just doing that.

1505
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: My who was his latest one?

1506
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 5: So right now he's currently going viral because he said

1507
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 5: that women lose. He was having a conversation with a woman.

1508
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 4: Who So we stopped before you say what he said,

1509
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 4: that's my issue. Why do women keep sitting down with

1510
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 4: this thicket like y'all like abuse?

1511
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: Women love abuse. Well, she was the reason why.

1512
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 5: I took that dee breafast because she was over there

1513
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 5: agreeing with what the fuck he was saying.

1514
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: So it's just like shit, I didn't know that. Okay, proceed.

1515
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 5: She asked him, She's like, do you think women like

1516
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 5: well then the thing that she's getting, yeah, she's getting

1517
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 5: killed because she was saying she was like, you know,

1518
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 5: I could never be a baby mother. That's why got

1519
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 5: married before I had a kid, because I can never be.

1520
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: A baby mother.

1521
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 5: And they like theyre in the comments tearing her up, like, girl,

1522
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 5: I got married for I had this baby too, then

1523
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 5: I got divorced. Now suddenly I'm a baby mother. Like

1524
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 5: it's like right, that happens all the time. And she

1525
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 5: asked him do you think women lose value every time

1526
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 5: they have a kid? And he was like yeah, he

1527
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 5: was like you the more kids you have, like you

1528
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 5: lose value. And he has nine with three different women.

1529
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 4: So does he feel men lose value after they have kids?

1530
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 4: And no, of course, he just feels women lose value

1531
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:30,479
Speaker 4: after they give birth.

1532
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1533
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 4: Beyonce got three kids. She's doing I.

1534
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: Being seems to be doing.

1535
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 5: I think the main thing was if you have kids

1536
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 5: with if you're single now and you have children, okay.

1537
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 4: If you're single, if you're a single mom, you lose value. Yeah,

1538
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 4: he about to cut the dress though, I mean at

1539
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 4: all that righteous? Who was resting peace to the gentleman?

1540
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 4: Who's the guy that used to just Daels? Yeah, my

1541
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 4: frad brother cam. Oh you bitches, excuse me? Oh my god.

1542
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 4: Respect bub Samuels, my bad, my bad, respects, respect the bubbles.

1543
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 4: You women did things y'all said it did online with

1544
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 4: Kevin Samuels died.

1545
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: Just know that I ain't forget the tweets. That's all

1546
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They were not they were happy that he

1547
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: passed away.

1548
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 3: What Yeah, that was a little that was crazy and

1549
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 3: someone that that did disagree with a lot of things.

1550
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 3: Kevin Samuel said. I didn't think he deserved to die.

1551
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: Yo, I just I remember, is all I'm saying.

1552
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 4: I saw some tweets from some people and I was like, yo,

1553
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 4: y'all are crazy.

1554
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 2: Okay. I didn't say anything when Kevin said, I didn't.

1555
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 4: I don't, but he turned your music up in the

1556
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 4: crib a little loud and had a couple of glasses

1557
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 4: of wine.

1558
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 5: I'm never happy that anyone dies, right, especially what I

1559
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 5: will say is there has been if you there's a

1560
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 5: lot of people that sometimes people feel like, yo, if

1561
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 5: we got them, get these niggas off this earth. Not

1562
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 5: that somebody deserves to die, but the same way how

1563
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 5: doctor Umar said, some of you niggas got to be

1564
01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 5: put down, Like some of you niggas can't go.

1565
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: If we're gonna fix.

1566
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 5: The issues we have in our Black community, some of

1567
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 5: your niggas need to be put down, right.

1568
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure some people felt like that.

1569
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 5: Some people felt like men who have a reputation for

1570
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 5: hating women or being disrespectful to women, if somebody got

1571
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 5: to live natural selections, some people gotta die.

1572
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 4: Sojack that because y'all be out here supporting dudes that

1573
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 4: don't like women, that have done watching the women, and

1574
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 4: y'all still show up and support.

1575
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 5: These But I think that when people say that, when

1576
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 5: they say y'all do this, but do this, I think

1577
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 5: the women that are supporting abusers and the people who

1578
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 5: are wishing death on Kevin Samuels, I think those are

1579
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 5: two totally different types of women or two totally different audiences.

1580
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 5: Me personally, I feel like that happens all the time.

1581
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 5: They're like, I saw y'all doing this. It's not all

1582
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 5: the same people. It's different types of people.

1583
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, some of them be at the same shows. Some

1584
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 4: of them the same shows, same night they be watching.

1585
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 4: They'll watch Kevin Samuels and get mad and then go

1586
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 4: to the show of the.

1587
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: Somebody has a way shittier person.

1588
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say no names for y'all know, I'm

1589
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,439
Speaker 4: just saying, we see it open Apple Music.

1590
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: We see it.

1591
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 4: It's all I'm saying. So it's like, all right, which

1592
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 4: one is it? Because I don't think I don't think

1593
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 4: I don't. I'm not saying I don't think Kevin Samuels

1594
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 4: has ever done anything disrespectful the women, outside of being

1595
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 4: maybe brutally honest. Maybe you know, say, like listen, you

1596
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 4: need to you're singing your single mom, you're overweight, you know,

1597
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 4: which means you probably don't take care of yourself, like

1598
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 4: and you want a man that has all of these

1599
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 4: things you need to be more realistic.

1600
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's that crazy.

1601
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm trying to say something to not

1602
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 3: be mean to Cam Newton.

1603
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 1: I see he's going down that path.

1604
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 3: And to your point of people that had the mentality,

1605
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 3: Kevin Samuels, his clips about shitting on men never went viral.

1606
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: Now he was pretty brutal to men as well. He

1607
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: kept to even playing field At some point.

1608
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,440
Speaker 3: I didn't agree with everything he said, but he articulated

1609
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 3: every point. Whether you like this point or not, cool,

1610
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 3: at least he could articulate it. Cam's sometimes just be

1611
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 3: saying shit, like I think, and I'm not comparing Cam

1612
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 3: to like a fresh and fit or anything. But even

1613
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 3: if I disagree with Kevin Samuels, Kevin Samuels is way

1614
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 3: more important than a fresh and fit or sometimes where

1615
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 3: Cam lands in the middle when we're talking about these

1616
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 3: red pillish men podcasts and content, Kevin Samuels was was

1617
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 3: not that bad compared to where these things have have moved.

1618
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 3: At least he sat there and articulated why he felt

1619
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 3: that way instead of just saying shit.

1620
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: To say it.

1621
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 3: It was mean, and I disagreed a lot of time,

1622
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 3: like yo, you you are bugging, But a lot of

1623
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 3: times it was like are you a victim or volunteer.

1624
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 3: Stop calling in this motherfucker show to get abused. Yeah,

1625
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 3: that's crazy.

1626
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 5: Loot to a show to have a man, Rachel, want

1627
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 5: to tell you what's wrong with you?

1628
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 4: Like, what's the difference between Kevin Samuels and Pop the Balloon.

1629
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 1: It's a big difference. What's the difference.

1630
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: Pop the Balloon is a dating game, It's a game,

1631
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 2: a game show.

1632
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 4: With Kevin Samuel and was more intelligent. Kevin Samuels wasn't

1633
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 4: trying to date these women. So he's he's he was

1634
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 4: wrong for what he was saying.

1635
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 5: Well, everybody on Pop the Balloon doesn't say the same

1636
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 5: exact thing.

1637
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 2: They're all different people.

1638
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 4: I can pull up episodes of Pop the Balloon where

1639
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 4: a woman is standing right there and they're like, why

1640
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 4: you popped your balloon?

1641
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: Y'all listen, yo.

1642
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 4: I don't like her feet, I don't like her head,

1643
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 4: his wig, I don't like she's overweight, saying breaking them down.

1644
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 4: It's the same thing. I'm breaking this woman down in

1645
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 4: front of a camera. I'm telling you what I see physically,

1646
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't like that. I don't think

1647
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 4: that that's I don't I'm not into that. What was

1648
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 4: the difference with what Kevin Kevin Samuels was doing. He

1649
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 4: was at least at least he was more articulate. At

1650
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 4: least he gave kind of like lean more towards you know,

1651
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 4: I guess, numbers and stats when it came to single

1652
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 4: win with women with kids and things like that.

1653
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: Like, at least he used more that Popped the balloon.

1654
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: They just be up there like, y'all, don't I don't

1655
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 1: like your fit.

1656
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 4: You know, you know what I'm saying, like you you

1657
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 4: look crazy like that's this woman is a nurse, no kids,

1658
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. It's like, so my

1659
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 4: thing is what's the difference between Kevin Samuels and.

1660
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: Popped the Balloon.

1661
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 5: Kevin Samuel has had a bigger platform. When you have

1662
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 5: a big platform.

1663
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 4: Y'all gonna penalize me because I hadn't built my ship.

1664
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm trending up. So now y'all mad.

1665
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 4: Now when God called me home, you mentioned this red

1666
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 4: white Zippindale, y'all laughing tweeting ship like God don't play

1667
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 4: about like what.

1668
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 3: I guess because I was an anti Kevin Samuels, I

1669
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 3: support Diggs in all Catholis, but I still was not

1670
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 3: like the biggest fan of his. But as time went,

1671
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 3: where things are going, it's similar now where I'm like

1672
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 3: John mcan would have been a pretty good president now

1673
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,799
Speaker 3: and I look where the fun we're at now. Like

1674
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 3: Kevin Samuels was not as bad as I told you was,

1675
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 3: man what God was?

1676
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: He was kind of on point. It's gotten work, this

1677
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: ship went. We should have been so lucky to have ken.

1678
01:11:58,600 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 2: It's gotten so much Moly.

1679
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 3: You know what I would love if we could bring

1680
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 3: John McCaine back from the dead, oh, like to run

1681
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 3: the Republican Party.

1682
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,879
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just saying.

1683
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 3: Kevin Samuels should be running all of Red Pill content

1684
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 3: right now because that shit is so off the fucking

1685
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 3: rails though, and Cam is teetering. I don't know if

1686
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 3: he's gonna go full, but he's there, and I know

1687
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 3: he believes. What he believes is he gonna go extra

1688
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 3: to start getting crazy for content purposes because he's also

1689
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 3: not out of his mind and what he's saying here,

1690
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 3: because I also feel, I know society views wimp single

1691
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 3: women with a child and a single man with a

1692
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 3: child drasticly different. I totally understand that, but I think

1693
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 3: my value drops as far as much as what I

1694
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 3: can offer as far as time to a relationship. If

1695
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 3: I have a child, I think my value lowers as

1696
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 3: a man with a child. So I don't think he's

1697
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 3: crazy in what he's saying. But when you have nine

1698
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 3: kids with three different baby mothers, maybe sometimes usually just

1699
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 3: shut up when certain topics come on.

1700
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: Has Kevin Samuels ever called a woman out of honey?

1701
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not I haven't studied you.

1702
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 3: No.

1703
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: He just always did it in a very sassy like.

1704
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 5: A lot of people thought Kevin Samuels was gay because

1705
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 5: it wasn't like you giving it advice to a woman.

1706
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,839
Speaker 5: It was like you enjoy like you're enjoying, like breaking

1707
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 5: this woman down. I think that was what he got

1708
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 5: a lot of black backlash.

1709
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: I can see that because it was very bad.

1710
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 5: Like when they found out he died with like a

1711
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 5: thick latina on top of him. Everybody was like, damn,

1712
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,520
Speaker 5: I thought he was gay.

1713
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 1: You gotta go out. Yeah. But I'm just I'm just

1714
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: more so.

1715
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to remember if I've ever seen him

1716
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 4: get into it with a woman and be like bitch,

1717
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 4: get off the.

1718
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: Phone calling off her name. I'm not sure.

1719
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever even seen sometimes sometimes uh,

1720
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 3: not cursing doesn't mean you're not being meaner, you're not

1721
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 3: sometimes nicer.

1722
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 4: That's how you're receiving it. Someone's no, no, no, that's

1723
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 4: how you receiving the honesty. That's how you're receiving the honesty.

1724
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 4: That's how you're receiving it. I'm not being disrespectful because

1725
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 4: I'm being I guess, brutally honest.

1726
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I'm being disrespectful.

1727
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 5: We've had a conversation about the word brutally because brutally

1728
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 5: has a meaning like you can be honest without being

1729
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 5: brutally honest.

1730
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: And I feel like once you get to once.

1731
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 5: You have a platform and you know that this is

1732
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 5: garnering you attention to your platform, that brutally becomes entertainment.

1733
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 5: So even though you may be talking to a human person,

1734
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 5: you're purposely going out of your way to be brutally honest,

1735
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 5: which mean for entertainment, and that is where lines can

1736
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 5: get great.

1737
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 4: Would you want your therapists to be brutally honest with you?

1738
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: Not brutally No, I'm not paying you to be brutal

1739
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 2: to me.

1740
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 5: You can be honest and you can get your point

1741
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 5: across without intentionally being mean.

1742
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 3: Okay, but if I advertise my therapy company as I'm

1743
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 3: going to be, you know, when you show up, I'm

1744
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 3: telling you you will get brutal honesty.

1745
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: You may not want to hear this.

1746
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to be truthful in my perspective of how

1747
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 3: society runs and who you are in this society and

1748
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 3: where your value level is at. I feel I'm an

1749
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 3: expert at this. I have a degree. It's called brutally

1750
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 3: honestthapy dot com. You know what you signed enough for.

1751
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 3: Don't come and lay on my couch and be mad

1752
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 3: that I was brutally honest to you.

1753
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 5: No, for sure, but also so, I think the people

1754
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 5: who would sign up are stupid, right, just like I

1755
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 5: think some people who go and have try to have

1756
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 5: certain conversations with Cam Newton are stupid right or expect

1757
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 5: I won't say have certain conversations with him, but have

1758
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 5: conversations with him and expect something out of.

1759
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: Him that they're not going to get.

1760
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 5: I think there's a level of stupidity in that that

1761
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 5: you're signing up for you can't be mad at same

1762
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 5: thing with the people that listen to him and get

1763
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 5: mad at the things he says. But also at the

1764
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 5: same time, that doesn't make you innocent of what you're

1765
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 5: doing just because somebody signed up for it, like you

1766
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 5: still have. Once you have a platform that large and

1767
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 5: you know that there are young men looking up to

1768
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 5: you what you say, there's not everybody is smart enough

1769
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 5: to realize that you're stupid, So what you say has

1770
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 5: an effect. So when you're trying to we're in an

1771
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 5: era of trying to raise men who respect women and

1772
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 5: value women, and you know that there are little boys

1773
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 5: who look up to you from football to the shit

1774
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 5: that you say. You have to be held accountable for

1775
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 5: the shit that you're pushing.

1776
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 3: But to me, that's the difference between Kevin Samuels and

1777
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want to play him

1778
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 3: in this. I think I don't think Kevin Samuel's goal

1779
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 3: was ever to get young men to hate women, where

1780
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 3: I do think people like the freshman fig guys, that's

1781
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 3: that's their their insecure goal is to do so with

1782
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 3: twenty two year old prostitutes in Miami as their example.

1783
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 3: As that's if that's every woman in America. I don't

1784
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 3: think Kevin Samuel's goal ever was to do that. I

1785
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 3: think it was to be realistic with who you are

1786
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 3: as a person unless you want to change and become better.

1787
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 3: This is where you ad in life, in my opinion,

1788
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 3: and you could disagree. Kevin Samuons was a fucking god.

1789
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 3: His opinion wasn't fact, but people called in for his opinion,

1790
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 3: so he gave it, which I think is fair.

1791
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:36,759
Speaker 1: I don't.

1792
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 3: I never sat there and thought like the feeble minded,

1793
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 3: impressionable young men are going to look at this and

1794
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 3: go I should hate women.

1795
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that.

1796
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 3: I think that with a lot of this other red

1797
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 3: pill bullshit, but I don't think that.

1798
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: Was Kevin Kevin. He was just he was just kind

1799
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: of a fucking mean Sassi.

1800
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 2: Ben Samuels had a lot.

1801
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 5: Whether it was his intention or not, he definitely had

1802
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 5: a he was red pill bro, and he.

1803
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: Had he would he looked at me.

1804
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 3: He's the John McCain of where now you get to

1805
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 3: maggot Like that's what I'm saying. I don't think he

1806
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 3: was as fucking insane as red pill is now. He

1807
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 3: was red pill one hundred percent. But yeah, not to

1808
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 3: the degree of what it is, like I have these

1809
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 3: views for my party, but they're off the rails now.

1810
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 4: No, I figured out what I'm gonna do. Well, Damn,

1811
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 4: I got my nephew this weekend. But this coming week

1812
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 4: red this come up with. Of course, you know, I'm

1813
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 4: gonna go back through I'm gonna go back through the

1814
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 4: Kevin Samuels files. Man, I'm gonna just go back through it.

1815
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just binge Kevin Samuel's files and just kind of.

1816
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 5: Like just there's so many better things you could do

1817
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 5: with your brain in your time.

1818
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 4: No, No, because it's something specific right now that I'm

1819
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 4: thinking about that I'm looking for and what he was doing,

1820
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 4: and I just want to see if it's dead, that's all. Yeah,

1821
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 4: Because I think again, I think, I think people just

1822
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 4: you know, it became a cool thing to just kind

1823
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 4: of like hate him and you know, clap when he

1824
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 4: died and things like that, like it was stupid. But

1825
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 4: I'm just looking for something in particular, and I just

1826
01:17:58,840 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 4: want to see if it was But.

1827
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 5: They were all always be and this is this is

1828
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 5: the thing, like there will always be someone happy that

1829
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 5: someone died. Everybody has ops, everybody has haters everybody has like, well,

1830
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 5: that's because he was he was a public figure.

1831
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: Respectully, it's gonna be niggas that clap when you die.

1832
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 5: There's gonna be niggas that clap when I die, Like

1833
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like that happens when you're

1834
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 5: a public figure and you enter into the serena and

1835
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 5: sometimes you're gonna say ship that people disagree with.

1836
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 2: It happens.

1837
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever clapped when someone died,

1838
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 3: and if I said that, I was lying. I don't

1839
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,799
Speaker 3: know if I've ever clapped when someone dies.

1840
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 2: Not literally clapping or like been like, oh good.

1841
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 3: I think Dick Cheney was the biggest piece of ship

1842
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 3: on earth. I wasn't like happy that day, but I

1843
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,799
Speaker 3: wasn't sad, like I like, nothing changed.

1844
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 1: I don't even hear.

1845
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 5: Peace being Just ignore him, just like I never met

1846
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 5: the man.

1847
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 3: Oh no, be happy when someone dies to me is

1848
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 3: kind of nuts. But again, like one dictioning out and

1849
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 3: everyone on Twitter was got like, all right, so what

1850
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 3: I agree with what they were saying. But to be

1851
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 3: happy just because someone said some mean shit on the internet,

1852
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 3: that's a little crazy, oh to me, But.

1853
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 5: I don't know, but yeah, I don't know. I do

1854
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 5: feel like, and this is not just for mini's it's

1855
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 5: for women too. I feel like, if you have a platform,

1856
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 5: you're gonna make money off of this platform, because that's

1857
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 5: what we're all trying to do. When you're saying things

1858
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 5: that you know are going to get pushed and they're

1859
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 5: extravagant and that people are gonna comment out them.

1860
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: They're gonna end up all these places.

1861
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 5: You do have a responsibility when you look and be like,

1862
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 5: what am I really pushing.

1863
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 2: To these people? What am I really pushing to these

1864
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 2: people with our platform too? But we push silly shit,

1865
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: funny shit.

1866
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 5: We don't really push harmful ideologies that can kick in

1867
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 5: the back people in our community.

1868
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's it's just weird. It's

1869
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:51,959
Speaker 2: just like everything.

1870
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 5: At one point, do you lay out at bed at

1871
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 5: night and be like, damn, yo, what I'm doing ain't

1872
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 5: really okay?

1873
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, if you're if you're harmed off Cole Kendrick

1874
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 3: and Drake opinions, you deserve to be harmed. Yeah, Like

1875
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 3: that's your that's your fault. That's not what harms you.

1876
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 3: Then that's that that's your journey, marshal people.

1877
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 5: You shouldn't have a you should have a fish take

1878
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 5: or drink PEPSI. I don't really feel like that's really

1879
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 5: like but we're not really changing the game.

1880
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 4: I thought I was giving great advice. I thought I

1881
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 4: was given great advice, and Natty going to clap when

1882
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 4: I die because I said you shouldn't be drinking PEPSI see.

1883
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 3: As Kevin Samuel's being my fraternity brother, I would have

1884
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 3: loved to hear his opinion on that frat hazing video

1885
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 3: that's been going viral.

1886
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 1: I would have loved to hear his sassy yeah, it

1887
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 1: looked like a stink down there. It was at yeo,

1888
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: it looked like it was.

1889
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 3: I mean, if if Capa Alphas I was was an

1890
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 3: organization that haze, I'm sure every basement would smell the

1891
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 3: exact same in all fifty states.

1892
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: I know that ship Funky.

1893
01:20:53,160 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 4: A room fellow, what not white out of the funny.

1894
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 3: That was the funniest thing that I said as a white,

1895
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 3: that was fine.

1896
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 1: Wet whites is fucking.

1897
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: Arm racist all the time.

1898
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: Yo. No no, no, no no, no, wet whites is hilarious.

1899
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 3: No all right, Well then be come back in a

1900
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 3: room full of wet whites is fucking hilarious.

1901
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 4: That's hilarious, wet white. I know it's smell like a

1902
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 4: pet Co bathroom in it, for sure, for sure.

1903
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's rough. They said they be until twenty twenty nine.

1904
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 5: Who's band like their chapter?

1905
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all right, they'll be back, give them time

1906
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:38,759
Speaker 4: to counter rebrand.

1907
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 3: I'll just say, because I of course I saw everyone,

1908
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 3: the outrage that was going on in here, the stories

1909
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 3: I've heard allegedly about pledging, like I heard like folk tales,

1910
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 3: campfire stories. All he was doing was standing there in

1911
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 3: the basement, being blindfolded.

1912
01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: They were wet, though what oat mill? I don't think

1913
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 1: it was.

1914
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 2: I think pgba up.

1915
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: But they were wet. They were wet. They rubbed oatmeal

1916
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 1: all over each other.

1917
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 3: You y'all never just been y'all never been soaking in

1918
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 3: a basement before, nah?

1919
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 4: Nah, never never said, I'll answer your question, I've never

1920
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 4: been soaking in never fucking the basement, getting a little hot,

1921
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 4: not that hot, like he wasn't both glistening like that. Nah,

1922
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 4: he ain't never been that hot. And we're gonna open

1923
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 4: a window or something.

1924
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 3: This motherfucker I did see that the other side of

1925
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 3: the white fraternity world defending some of the ship that

1926
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 3: if we did allowed hazing, there'd be more men out here.

1927
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: But hey, M not as debate I would have on

1928
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: a podcast not for me, b but.

1929
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 3: No, that that video was was hilarious because at that point,

1930
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 3: like when do you take your blind photo off?

1931
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: If?

1932
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 3: If, if you are allegedly pledging in fraternity, I feel

1933
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 3: like you know the voices of the two people that

1934
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 3: are are leading the charge of the alleged Hayes. He

1935
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 3: would hear a CoP's voice and be like, Yo.

1936
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: What I want to know?

1937
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 4: Is there a way we could find this out? How

1938
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 4: many single or how many only childs.

1939
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 1: Are in a fraternity?

1940
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 2: Only children?

1941
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Only children. I would like to know that.

1942
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 3: All my line brothers have siblings. Out of all of

1943
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 3: New Jersey, New York, all my travels, I don't know

1944
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 3: if I know one other noop that's the only child.

1945
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 2: How many of them had imaginary friends when they is

1946
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 2: growing up.

1947
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: It's where that y'all view that ship that way, though

1948
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:44,799
Speaker 1: we want to get into.

1949
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 4: I have never understood pledging a fraternity, never understood.

1950
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: It, which is which is fine.

1951
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm never one of those people that when people say

1952
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 3: that that, I get like offended.

1953
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: I totally get it.

1954
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 3: I just think you may have an a skewed perception

1955
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 3: of the of the entire thing, because.

1956
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I can only speak for the chapters

1957
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: that I've been around.

1958
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 3: I've never met somebody that was looking for friends, Like

1959
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 3: every single time, even with my line brothers, like my

1960
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 3: Crewel friends, their Creel friends, like everyone just became friends.

1961
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 3: We just the seven of us just happened to do

1962
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 3: that that semester, Like nobody was looking for friends.

1963
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: I get it. At the same time I don't, but

1964
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: I get it.

1965
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,480
Speaker 3: I mean, some people enjoy being around like minded individuals

1966
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 3: with you know.

1967
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 1: Around.

1968
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 4: I enjoy being around like my individual single But when

1969
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 4: you tell me I all of y'all tonight and not

1970
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 4: PM got to go in this basement and put oatmeal on.

1971
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: You, I'm not doing this sounds like a great I'm

1972
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: not jacking that. I'm like, you know what, I'm just

1973
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 1: not down.

1974
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 5: And you know that they got to like eventually they

1975
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 5: end up like paying like they're paying dues to be like, but.

1976
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 3: I hadn't like pledge you, so I can't speak to that.

1977
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 3: I'm just talking about being in a fraturn. I can't

1978
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 3: speak to hazing or pledging anything, but yeah, it's just

1979
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 3: not I can see how that would that would look

1980
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 3: whid because if I was a cop, I wouldn't even

1981
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 3: think fraternity. Even if I was on a campus, I

1982
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 3: would be like, oh, this is Epstein's cold down here

1983
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 3: right now.

1984
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: Shirt scared.

1985
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 4: You would have to be like, yo, why they ain't

1986
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 4: got no shirts on what part of Like what am

1987
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 4: I proving? Because I'm down here with my homies and

1988
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 4: we all I ain't wearing no shirts. I had no

1989
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 4: shirts tonight.

1990
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: What is that?

1991
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask both of you.

1992
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

1993
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 3: Do you guys have allegedly do you have friends that

1994
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 3: have joined joined a gang?

1995
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 1: I do, wait, I got a lot of friend children.

1996
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: Uh where they where? They a lot of them? Where

1997
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: they jumped in.

1998
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 2: They were looking they were missing something. They were looking for.

1999
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 4: A chromosome maybe, yes, you know they was missing something.

2000
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: Don't do don't do that at home?

2001
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, no, no, no, I understand forget like blood

2002
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 3: gangs in general have been around since the dawn of

2003
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 3: time based off that exact principle. Yeah, but you don't

2004
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 3: think that could see something in with a college student

2005
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 3: as well.

2006
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, for sure, Like yeah, yeah.

2007
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 3: Something missing doesn't necessarily mean something's wrong or you're in

2008
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 3: a search of valiation or a friend or anything.

2009
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2010
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a lifelong community that you can be

2011
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:16,799
Speaker 3: around forever.

2012
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: Is an important thing to people.

2013
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, I didn't go to college and

2014
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 4: I got a lot of homies as like went to

2015
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 4: college part of fraternities.

2016
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just was never I'm not doing that.

2017
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 3: I think if it defines your entire life, then I

2018
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 3: can understand more of what you guys are saying, which

2019
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 3: I do know some kapa is that, Yes, that is

2020
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 3: their their entire identity has become that from when they

2021
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 3: were nineteen to now when they're in their forties. Yes,

2022
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 3: I think those people were searching for what you guys

2023
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 3: are talking about, but I don't think.

2024
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: That's the high majority case. With everything.

2025
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 2: What were you searching for?

2026
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it was like a specific thing

2027
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 3: I was searching for or in any regards having.

2028
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 1: To do with.

2029
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 3: Being an only child, because even my line brother Danny,

2030
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 3: who is my best friend at the time, he was

2031
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 3: already my best friend, so it wasn't like I was

2032
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 3: going to meet someone there, but all the principles that

2033
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 3: Kappa stood for in the community and getting to know

2034
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 3: some of the older brothers in Kappa and what they

2035
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 3: had going on in their lives, and the network that

2036
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 3: you had for the rest of your life because it's

2037
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 3: divine nine is not like the white frats of this

2038
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 3: basement shit. I don't want to speak for them, but

2039
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 3: I guarantee once they graduate, that'll be the last time

2040
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 3: they even think about the Like that's not it's not

2041
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 3: a lifelong thing.

2042
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: There's alumni chapters, there's so much with Kappa for the

2043
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: rest of your life.

2044
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 3: Shit in the music industry, the amount of people I've

2045
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 3: even met because of Kappa.

2046
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: That was an important thing to have a community of

2047
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 1: like minded people.

2048
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like you you figure all of that.

2049
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 5: The community of the like minded people is like, that's

2050
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:49,600
Speaker 5: like straight out to hamd book, like he wrote he

2051
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 5: read that. I feel like that's also a non haz organization.

2052
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 5: I feel like you find all of that out once

2053
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 5: you start pledging.

2054
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 3: No, because that's not true because it's not Again, I'm

2055
01:27:58,240 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 3: not speaking for white frats.

2056
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: You don't just show up that day and then you're

2057
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:01,440
Speaker 1: in a basement with a blindfold.

2058
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 3: No, it's a long process to even be considered for sure,

2059
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 3: to become a member, you have to meet you have

2060
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 3: to get three recommendations, a written letter from members already.

2061
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:12,679
Speaker 1: That takes time.

2062
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 3: The amount of times I've turned it down for people

2063
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 3: like I.

2064
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: Don't even fucking know.

2065
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 3: You got to talk to me for six months just

2066
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 3: so I could get to know to see if you

2067
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 3: be a viable candidate, not on some hazinger like I

2068
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 3: just want to get to know this person.

2069
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 2: It is a very long process. What I'm saying is.

2070
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 3: I'd love to get jumped in for thirty seconds and

2071
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:28,759
Speaker 3: be Domino.

2072
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 2: It's a very long process.

2073
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is, before all of that, what was

2074
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 5: the first thing that clicked in your head to say

2075
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,440
Speaker 5: I want to go like, oh.

2076
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 3: This is this is this is a lifetime thing. And

2077
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 3: on top of that, my best friend's my best friend

2078
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 3: of high school. His mother was a Delta, so she

2079
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 3: was the first person that was like you should look

2080
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 3: at it. I even meet the Greeks look at the

2081
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 3: Q's first, just because she was a Delta and they

2082
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 3: have more of an alliance. But Kappa was way more

2083
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 3: than me. I love C's but Kapa was more for me.

2084
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: Oh, I got.

2085
01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 2: If you were a que I would not be on

2086
01:28:59,000 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: the spot.

2087
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: I can't. I love I love the cues I do too,

2088
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: But are you close with the cues and jury?

2089
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 5: I love if you if you were walking that's hung

2090
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 5: around me, would have never been do it?

2091
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: Try would I wouldn't. I wouldn't disrespect the cues like that.

2092
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a it's a full journey in finding that,

2093
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 3: not just one day.

2094
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, I want to do this and one

2095
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: thing clicks like it takes a while. I'm respecting fraternity bubble.

2096
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all over there. Quiet.

2097
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 3: There's a lot, but like anything else with membership of

2098
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 3: that amount of people for that long.

2099
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: Of course, there's bullshit in everything in life. I get.

2100
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 3: It's the same as any joining any other organization. The

2101
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 3: same people do intermurals in college? Why are you joining?

2102
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't get to know the people to hear. That's

2103
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: how it starts. It's freshman orientation. It's it's all part

2104
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 1: of that college process. Got it? So? Yeah, all right,

2105
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: Well another week the gang is here.

2106
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,879
Speaker 4: Uh so, I guess we're gonna get start on Patreons

2107
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 4: so we could have some more crazy conversations. That's some

2108
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 4: things I want to talk about, coming off of Valentine's.

2109
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 2: Day with the ladies the Secrets on Netflix.

2110
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: Sh I want to talk to Zip about.

2111
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 3: I've been at the edge of my seat since Monday

2112
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:08,759
Speaker 3: for the conversation.

2113
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: Listen, Gang Gang is here by.

2114
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 3: You said you had already told me you had a

2115
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 3: list of questions for.

2116
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: I just want to talk to the lady.

2117
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 4: Just just coming out of Valentine's that I want to

2118
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 4: get everybody's post Valentine's energies on them right when she

2119
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 4: was Zip did for Valentine's Day.

2120
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 1: See if any woman.

2121
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 4: Took care of him for Valentine Yeah, hope, I hope

2122
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 4: hopefully a woman took care of Zip and brought him

2123
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 4: nothing but chocolate.

2124
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 2: And flowers back there laughing. So I don't think he

2125
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 2: got ship.

2126
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 1: Nah, Noah, I don't do that.

2127
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 4: The Zip Zip got some flowers on Valentine's Day. We're

2128
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 4: not doing that. All right, Well, we'll talk to y'all soon.

2129
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 4: Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga, He's just ginger

2130
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 4: Peace