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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Third hour of play Buck kicks off right now. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: you being with us. As we started off the show

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Speaker 2: discussing there's a lot out there about Hunter Biden's business

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Speaker 2: dealings right now thanks to this oversight committee that is

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Speaker 2: looking into it. Representative Comer is leading the charge on this,

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Speaker 2: he's a committee chairman. And there's a an intricate web

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Speaker 2: of dealings here that involved layering of LLC. So it's

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Speaker 2: you know LLC XYZ gives to LLC, you know qrs uh,

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Speaker 2: you know a million dollars and you keep doing this

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Speaker 2: so that it's hard to understand and harder to track

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Speaker 2: the source of funds, who's getting the funds, and it

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Speaker 2: does start to look like this could.

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Speaker 1: Be money money laundering. Miranda.

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Speaker 2: Now, Miranda Devine of The New York Post joins us

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Speaker 2: to talk about this. Branda, thanks for making the.

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Speaker 3: Time, Oh pleasure, great to be with you.

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Speaker 2: So is there new stuff here from this house oversight

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Speaker 2: and accountability hearing and what matters what matters most in

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Speaker 2: this saga of the Hunter Biden family dealings and all

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Speaker 2: the rest of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess it's all new because they've subpoenaed these

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Speaker 3: bank records, and so while previously we've had, you know,

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Speaker 3: documents from the laptop, and we've had invoices and bank statements,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, this is something that's just incontrovertible. People, you know,

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Speaker 3: the Democrats and the New York Times and so on,

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Speaker 3: can't just flip it and say, oh, it's just from

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Speaker 3: the laptop, even though the material and the laptop, as

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Speaker 3: you know, is real. This just silences any complaints in

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Speaker 3: that department. And it's a really forensic accounting of payments

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Speaker 3: just from two countries. This is a like an interim accounting,

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Speaker 3: and it's just from Romania and China. There is some

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Speaker 3: new material from Romania, three million dollars specially, that came

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Speaker 3: through to one of Hunter Biden's business associates from Romania

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Speaker 3: and was doled out to Hunter and various of the

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Speaker 3: other family members in the usual way they've done them,

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Speaker 3: presumably to hide the payments in smaller tranches over time.

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Speaker 4: Miranda, I imagine that even you, because this is where

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Speaker 4: I find myself, have to be impressed by just how

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Speaker 4: diabolical the Biden team and the Democrats in general have

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Speaker 4: been as it pertains to everything surrounding Hunter and the

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Speaker 4: Biden crime family. Which is why today this morning, I

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Speaker 4: almost just wanted to slap myself in the face for

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Speaker 4: not saying it yesterday on the radio show, the idea

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Speaker 4: of arresting George Santos basically at the exact time that

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Speaker 4: this press conference is going on, and they're arresting Santos

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Speaker 4: for you know, basically you're in New York. Now, you

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Speaker 4: know thousands of dollars in misapplied funds associated with his

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Speaker 4: campaign finance filings. Meanwhile, Biden, as you just laid out

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Speaker 4: three million new dollars being pointed to from Romania.

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Speaker 1: We know about Ukraine, we know about Russia.

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Speaker 4: It's just so diabolically brilliant on some level to decide

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Speaker 4: that your own Department of Justice is going to arrest

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Speaker 4: a Republican while far more serious allegations are proven against

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden. I mean, did you not just sit back

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Speaker 4: and say, oh, of course they pulled this move.

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Speaker 3: It's so corrupt. She really is an you know, you

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Speaker 3: can't imagine that this is just a coincidence. They've given

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Speaker 3: the other media, which has studiously ignored this story. They

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Speaker 3: did not MSNBC did not run the press conference. New

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Speaker 3: York Times, Washington Post last time I looked, had ignored it.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's given them something to take hold of

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Speaker 3: and distract them instead of the press conference that COMA held,

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Speaker 3: So instead the New York Times and Washington Posts they've

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Speaker 3: been tweeting madly about George Santov, some of these. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm not defending George Santov, but it's really small beer.

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Speaker 3: I think it's like five hundred dollars here and five

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars there. You know, Well, while the DOJ is

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Speaker 3: completely ignoring twenty million dollars just today that COMA and

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Speaker 3: Co have identified that have come through in these dodgy

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Speaker 3: from these dodgy countries, from the shady oligarchs, and from

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Speaker 3: the CCP and China into bank accounts. Eventually of nine

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Speaker 3: that they've said, now at least nine Biden family members,

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Speaker 3: and that includes grandchildren, niece's nephews, I think niece is

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Speaker 3: actually not nephews.

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Speaker 2: We're speaking of Miranda Devine, author of Laptop from Hew Miranda.

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Speaker 2: The likelihood in your mind here, I mean, actually I

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Speaker 2: have two things. One is, do we know do you

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Speaker 2: know the amounts of untaxed income that we're talking about here?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: We know it's a lot of money coming to these LLCs,

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Speaker 2: But I mean, if he's taking in a ten to

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Speaker 2: the government, anyone else goes to prison for that, I mean,

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Speaker 2: does real prison time for that? I'm wondering if we

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Speaker 2: know what the amounts are that did not get declared

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Speaker 2: for taxes based on the investigation so far. And then

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Speaker 2: the second part of this is just more broadly, do

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Speaker 2: you think that Hunter is going to face criminal charges

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Speaker 2: that could send him to prison or are going to

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Speaker 2: make this thing go away?

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Speaker 3: So on the first question, the COMA people have not

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Speaker 3: quantified that. But what we do know is that in Delaware,

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Speaker 3: the US Attorney David Wife has identified two point eight

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Speaker 3: million dollars in unpaid taxes, which Hunter Biden now has

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Speaker 3: paid back with the help of his sugar brother, the

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Speaker 3: Hollywood entertainment lawyer Kevin Morris, who very kindly lent him

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Speaker 3: the money. And so we know that there. And the

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Speaker 3: other thing, perhaps is that there's a statute of limitations

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Speaker 3: problem for the DOJ for David wife, and so on

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Speaker 3: tax issues. I think it's five years, maybe six years,

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Speaker 3: and unless they add an extra felony I'm told, which

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Speaker 3: would be a conspiracy to defraud the irs to evade taxes,

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Speaker 3: then that pretty much which means that you're not going

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Speaker 3: to go before twenty eighteen, which is where a lot

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Speaker 3: of that money came from, you know, the Barisma money

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Speaker 3: from Ukraine, the first couple of China deals. You're just

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Speaker 3: left with the CFC energy deal. And so I don't

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Speaker 3: know how they're going to handle that. And I think

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Speaker 3: that there's been frustration in Delaware because Hunter Biden and

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Speaker 3: Kevin Morris and perhaps the other lawyers being resistant to

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Speaker 3: entering into any plea deal. Hunter's position is that he's

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Speaker 3: done nothing wrong and this is just a political witch hunt,

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Speaker 3: so he's not going to plead guilty to any felonies.

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Speaker 3: And so I don't know whether that's been resolved. I

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Speaker 3: know that Kevin Morris and the lawyers the Hunter are

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Speaker 3: looking at some on the gun charge. They seem to

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Speaker 3: some imminent decision that's coming down that may show that

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Speaker 3: these gun forms are unconstitutional. I don't know that sounds

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Speaker 3: like they're grasping et straws there. But on the tax

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Speaker 3: issues they seem to be pretty sanguine. And from the leaks,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's pretty tight ship down there in Delaware.

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Speaker 3: But from the leaks that we've seen in the Washington

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Speaker 3: Post and New York Times only, which suggests they're coming

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Speaker 3: from the Biden camp, they've only talked about basically tax

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Speaker 3: evasion charges. They've not talked about money laundering or pharaoh violations,

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Speaker 3: you know, on pharaoh violations, which some people scoff at,

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Speaker 3: and sure they weren't really applied until people decided to

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Speaker 3: apply it to the troupe of Trump World and locked

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Speaker 3: up Paul Manafort and spied on Rue Giuliani on bogus

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Speaker 3: pharaoh charges for a year. So fara charges should be

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Speaker 3: on the table, but they're not being talked about. So

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Speaker 3: I just would not want to be David Weiss. The

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Speaker 3: pressure on him is immense. You've got Joe Biden making

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Speaker 3: these public pronouncements. My son has done nothing wrong, which

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Speaker 3: if that's not political pressure on first of all Merrick Garland,

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Speaker 3: who Joe Biden is the boss of, and then David Wiss,

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Speaker 3: who Merrick Garland is the boss of I don't know

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Speaker 3: what is Miranda.

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Speaker 4: I've thought for a while that they were going to

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Speaker 4: bring charges against Hunter, meaning Merrick Garland, in a way

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Speaker 4: that would allow them to then bring charges against Trump.

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Speaker 4: But when I see things that are clearly political in nature,

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Speaker 4: like the decision to go and rest Santos on the

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Speaker 4: same day that all this news is coming out about Biden,

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Speaker 4: what do you think is going to happen? And how

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Speaker 4: destructive is it to notions of American justice in general

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Speaker 4: that we can have these conversations and that a huge

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Speaker 4: percentage of Americans not along and believe that our Department

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Speaker 4: of Justice, as well as the FBI is completely corrupt

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Speaker 4: and taken over by one political party to advance their

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Speaker 4: interest at the expense of the other party.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the CIA, from the new revelations from Jim

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Speaker 3: jordansreepoint this week, the CIA the fifty one former intelligence

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Speaker 3: officials who signed that bogus letter just before the election

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Speaker 3: pretending that the Hunter Bydon's laptop and the email and

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Speaker 3: our reporting was Russian. This information turns out, and Jim

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Speaker 3: Jordan's report today showed that the CIA basically approved, gave

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Speaker 3: a pre publication classification clearance unusually to a very controversial

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Speaker 3: letter in five and a half hours. And not only that,

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Speaker 3: but there was a CIA employee who actively solicited a

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Speaker 3: former CIA employee to former CIA analyst David Carrions, to

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Speaker 3: sign that letter. And so that just shows that the

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Speaker 3: CIA was complicit in that dirty trick, that political stunt,

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Speaker 3: which was aimed at giving Joe Biden a talking point

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Speaker 3: in that final debate against Donald Trump and ensure that

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Speaker 3: he won and that Donald Trump did not win the reelection. So, CIA, FBI,

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Speaker 3: do OJ You have a big chunk of the country

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Speaker 3: quite rightly suspecting that they are just corrupt and irredeemable,

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Speaker 3: and that's a really dangerous position to be in. But look,

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Speaker 3: I think on a positive note, you know, the truth

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Speaker 3: and right is very powerful, and I think what this today,

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Speaker 3: James Comer's committee and his second memo has shown is

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Speaker 3: that they just roedly gone after bank transactions. They have

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Speaker 3: evidence that's incontrovertible. The only thing the Democrats and their

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Speaker 3: complicit media can do is ignore it, which is what

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Speaker 3: they're doing. But ultimately the weight of the truth becomes

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Speaker 3: too enormous. The pressure to continue to lie and cover

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Speaker 3: up collapses on itself. It's much more difficult the Democrats

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Speaker 3: out from under this than it is for COMA and Co.

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Speaker 3: With their subpoena power to pursue the truth. And the

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Speaker 3: biggest problem I think we have is just dishonest media

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Speaker 3: outlets that are still perceived by at least half the

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Speaker 3: to print and democracy dies in darkness, which are their mottos,

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Speaker 3: they're not at all They give you, you know, I limited

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Speaker 3: their own curted part of the truth which suits their

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Speaker 3: political purposes, their political propaganda machines aimed at keeping the

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Speaker 3: Democratic Party or you know, people in the uniparty that

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Speaker 3: they like in power. And this is a really corrupt

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Speaker 3: problem that we have. I don't know how you fix

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Speaker 3: that other than I think Americans are going to alternative

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Speaker 3: slowly but surely, and they get red pilled that they've

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Speaker 3: been lied to and kept in the dark about the

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Speaker 3: immense Fiden corruption that's being unveiled. I think they will

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Speaker 3: turn with a vengeance on those dishonest media outlets.

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Speaker 2: Renda Devine. Check out her book Laptop from Hell. Look

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Speaker 2: for her columns at The New York Post. Randa always

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Speaker 2: appreciate you, thank.

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Speaker 1: The Truth Compass pointing do right every day. The Clay

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show Buck. I

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Speaker 4: wanted to hit you with this. I saw Bill Malujin,

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Speaker 4: who just does phenomenal work down on the border, tweet

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Speaker 4: the timing on and Miranda Devine is incredible. If you

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Speaker 4: Per CBP sources, Border Patrol apprehended more than ten thousand,

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 4: This is this, I mean, even for people who wanted

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Speaker 2: And there's so much that we're going to see happening

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Speaker 1: It makes me sad to say too.

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Speaker 2: If Joe Biden managed to squeak out a second term,

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Speaker 1: It's all.

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Speaker 4: The illegal immigrants are behaving rationally based on the incentive

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Speaker 5: Let me be clear, the lifting of the Title forty

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Speaker 2: Oh so now we have such a tough border. According

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Speaker 1: It's all right.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, it's tough to find a way to

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Speaker 1: When does it to switch to the Is it Brandon

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Speaker 2: Anyways, Mayor Lori Lightfoot in Chicago play thirty two.

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Speaker 6: We've seen in the last couple of weeks a new surgeon.

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Speaker 6: Migrants coming to Chicago on a daily basis, and that

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Speaker 6: This declaration empowers the city's chief procumerent officer to exercise

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Speaker 6: But here we are, and even in my final days

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Speaker 2: So it's May fifteenth. It's just I knew it was close.

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Speaker 2: It's a few days away when Lloyd Lightfood is no

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Speaker 2: This is what democrats want. They tell us that this

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Speaker 2: And yet they tell us that it's a massive imposition

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Speaker 4: And I don't know how they're going to camouflage what

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Speaker 4: The challenge is I think the border story is going

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Speaker 4: How many people do you think who watch CNN and

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Speaker 2: And also they'll they'll just use it to attack Republicans

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Speaker 2: I'm not as you know, we've made fun of George

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Speaker 2: Santos here. Okay, we're not big George Santos fans. That's

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Speaker 2: not what this is about. But there's there's thinking someone's

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Speaker 2: a clown and thinking somebody should have his life ruine

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Speaker 2: to go to federal prison and oh maybe also be

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Speaker 2: replaced by appointment by Kathy Hokl the Democrat governor. And

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Speaker 2: you know there's politics involved here too in New York

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Speaker 2: State obviously. But Clay, there's a public charge rule that

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Speaker 2: is part of the Immigration and Nationality Act that is

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Speaker 2: still federal law that says that you can that you

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Speaker 2: can be denied admission to this country on the grounds

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Speaker 2: that you will be a public charge, that that you

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Speaker 2: will be somebody who is going to be primarily dependent

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Speaker 2: on the government for for subsistens. What's going on with

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Speaker 2: all these migrants that are being bused. They're all being

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Speaker 2: housed and fed and medical care and everything else. So

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Speaker 2: the under the existing public charge rule, none of them

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Speaker 2: should be admissible. They're not going to homes that are

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Speaker 2: taking them in. They're not going to jobs that have

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Speaker 2: requested them, and it's you know, you could say, oh, well, well,

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Speaker 2: I guess let's ignore this law. But you know, George

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Speaker 2: Santos is getting some five hundred dollars something or other

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Speaker 2: that he didn't, you know, register for, and they were

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Speaker 2: to throw him in prison. Meanwhile, people are getting tens

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Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars worth of benefits over the course

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Speaker 2: of maybe a year that they're not supposed to be

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Speaker 2: entitled to, and they're entering the country illegal. And if

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Speaker 2: you have any problem with this, you're a bad person.

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Speaker 2: That's what CNN is going to tell you. You're a

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Speaker 2: bad person. As long as they're not getting apartments on

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Speaker 2: the Upper West Side next to the CNN anchors, then

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Speaker 2: that's a problem.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's an example of, unfortunately what has occurred, which

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Speaker 4: is we don't have a justice department anymore. We have

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Speaker 4: a praetorian guard for the party in power. And even

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Speaker 4: worse than not having a justice department, we have an

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Speaker 4: entire propaganda media that will defend any decision they make

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Speaker 4: because they're so in the tank for the left wing

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Speaker 4: in this country. And so I would predict that CNN

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Speaker 4: and MSNBC will be down there, Buck, and they will

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Speaker 4: find a family and they will interview them, interview them,

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Speaker 4: and they will talk about what a humanitarian crisis it

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Speaker 4: is that this family is in danger or in peril

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Speaker 4: in some way on their journey to the United States.

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Speaker 4: And certainly that's a journey that they have undertaken for

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Speaker 4: their own benefit as a family. It's certainly perilous, certainly

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Speaker 4: very dangerous. But they're responding to the incentive structure put

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Speaker 4: in place by Democrats.

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Speaker 1: They as soon as.

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Speaker 4: Biden won the election, Buck, the huge numbers of caravans

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Speaker 4: of people trying to come here started because they knew

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Speaker 4: when Biden took over that he was going to allow

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Speaker 4: them free passage buying large the country.

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Speaker 1: I think we have to also step back.

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Speaker 2: What's the point of having a legal immigration system, which

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Speaker 2: many of the people, many people listening to this show

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Speaker 2: went through. What's the point of even having a legal

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Speaker 2: immigration system if we're going to allow this kind of

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Speaker 2: nonsense to be rewarded all the time. You know, we're

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Speaker 2: a country that's thirty three trillion dollars in debt. Why

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Speaker 2: do people from one hundred and sixty countries all over

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Speaker 2: the world. Why are they coming here, violating our law

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Speaker 2: by stepping into the US without permission and then staying

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Speaker 2: here by playing out some ruse that they all want

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Speaker 2: asylum when they really don't. It's because we're basically turning

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Speaker 2: into the world's you know, a world soup kitchen and

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Speaker 2: welfare a ward, and that's not a good thing.

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Speaker 1: We can't afford to do that.

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Speaker 2: We have our own poor here in America that we

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Speaker 2: should be tending to. We can't pay the bills for

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Speaker 2: the whole world. We can't give free healthcare to the

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Speaker 2: entire world. The reason people are coming, I know, we're told, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's just they everyone wants their American dream. Well, that's

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Speaker 2: the illegal immigration system, okay. Asylum is supposed to be

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Speaker 2: a very specific thing for peopleeople who if we don't

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Speaker 2: take them in, they're basically going to be tortured and murdered.

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Speaker 2: That's what asylum is really supposed to be for, and

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Speaker 2: instead it's just being abused, which means real asylum seekers

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Speaker 2: I note, also have a harder time getting into the country.

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Speaker 2: There are real costs here, there are real downsides, and

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Speaker 2: no one's even discussing it. They're just the game from

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Speaker 2: the Democrats is, yeah, we want a secure border.

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Speaker 1: That's a lie.

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Speaker 2: They don't want a secure border because that would mean

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Speaker 2: a willingness to enforce the laws on the books, to

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Speaker 2: turn people away and to deport people who are here illegally,

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Speaker 2: and they don't want to do.

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Speaker 1: They want to do the bare minimum. Well, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have our friend Julio Rosas down

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Speaker 2: at the border tomorrow. He's watching this as it unfolds.

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Speaker 2: I think he's in El Paso and he'll join us

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Speaker 2: to talk about this. But Clay, it's it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: The masses of people come across the border.

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Speaker 1: Finishing off the Wednesday edition of the program.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us, and I

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Speaker 4: would always remind you, I understand everybody's busy. Really good

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Speaker 4: conversations with Andy McCarthy and Miranda Divine. Andy McCarthy an

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Speaker 4: hour one, Rando Divine an hour two. So many of

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Speaker 4: these stories are really complicated as it pertains to the

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Speaker 4: legality surrounding them, the moving parts. You really have to

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Speaker 4: And so I would encourage you to go download the podcast.

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Speaker 4: You can subscribe on YouTube. We're on rumble. If there

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Speaker 4: at this point.

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Speaker 1: So some people.

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Speaker 4: Every time we mentioned something that people like, well, why

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Speaker 4: on Rumble, We're there? Well, why aren't you on YouTube?

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Speaker 1: We're there.

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Speaker 4: If the social media platform exists, the Clay and Buck

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Speaker 4: Show is on it, and you can grab video versions.

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Speaker 1: You can certainly grab the audio version.

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Speaker 4: But I would encourage you to go check out those

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Speaker 4: interviews because I think you'll be better informed than ninety

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Speaker 4: nine percent of people that are out there trying to

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Speaker 4: follow these stories, because they are super complicated and there

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Speaker 4: are so many different moving parts.

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Speaker 1: End results.

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Speaker 4: Buck tonight Trump ten o'clock not sorry, nine o'clock eastern

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Speaker 4: on CNN. I think it's going to be must see television.

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Speaker 4: We were watching about it earlier.

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Speaker 1: Is it eight easter? I thought it was nine.

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Speaker 4: There's too many damn time zones in this country. Surely

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Speaker 4: it's nine eastern, right, Why would they have eight eastern?

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Speaker 4: Why would they make it at eight eastern. It's five

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Speaker 4: o'clock on the West coast. That's stupid CNN making poor choices,

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Speaker 4: all right. They should make it at least at nine

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Speaker 4: so that they can get everybody home on the West coast.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you know what, you know what, But think about it.

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Speaker 2: They probably want to go up against the Fox eight

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Speaker 2: pm slot and just run the table on it because

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Speaker 2: they know they don't look. Even though they don't want

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Speaker 2: to go up against Sean Show in that audio, you know,

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Speaker 2: and try to compete, they want to go up against

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Speaker 2: the eight pm slot.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. So that's their strategic play.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 4: The downside on that is, again it's only five o'clock

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Speaker 4: on the West coast, so some people could miss it.

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Speaker 4: I think Trump's here's my prediction for everybody. I think

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Speaker 4: Trump is going to do really well in this New

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Speaker 4: Hampshire primary. And I think the primary electorate is the

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Speaker 4: people there that are in the town hall asking him questions.

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Speaker 4: I think the number one storyline coming out of this

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Speaker 4: buck is going to be left wingers losing their minds,

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Speaker 4: not just over the fact that CNN platformed Trump, right,

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Speaker 4: that's their argument. Now, I think they're going to be like, wow,

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Speaker 4: he came off pretty well because you guys understand, we've

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Speaker 4: had Trump on for hours on this program. You guys

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Speaker 4: understand what Trump is like, you know him well. A

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Speaker 4: lot of the CNN audience does not.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we have the Trump Phone. In effect,

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Speaker 2: we've given him Clay, gave him the number he can

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Speaker 2: call in whenever he likes to talk to everybody and

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Speaker 2: address whatever is on his mind, whatever issues. Right, the

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Speaker 2: Trump Phone. Yes, he's out there. So look, he's a

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Speaker 2: busy guy. He's not gonna be calling it every day.

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Speaker 2: But when he decides that he wants, we'll also set

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Speaker 2: up more formal interviews with him. But you know, we

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Speaker 2: want to make it, you know, an open dialogue to

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Speaker 2: the degree that he wants to address the audience. We

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Speaker 2: think that giving him that special, special line, special number

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Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: You're looking at your phone. We did give him the number, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've got the number.

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Speaker 4: I was looking at the I was looking at this

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Speaker 4: to see whether we should take calls. But then I

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Speaker 4: also just heard the music go on in the background.

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Speaker 4: So I don't believe we took a single call today.

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Speaker 4: We will take some calls tomorrow. I apologize to people

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Speaker 4: who wait, is that right? We didn't take a single call.

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Speaker 4: Right tomorrow, we will take some of your calls. Will

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Speaker 4: have another great show. I guarantee you. But I can't

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Speaker 4: guarantee you because the way this world works, everything spins

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Speaker 4: in so many different directions. I would be very surprised

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Speaker 4: if our lead tomorrow isn't breaking down Trump on CNN

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Speaker 4: in this town hall and how that came off. We

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Speaker 4: will discuss all of that with you. Cannot wait. We

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