1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: And there's been so many devastating things that I've had 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: to go through and had to overcome and prayed and 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: decided to keep going because this is what I was 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: supposed to do and it was just really hard. I 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: wanted to give up so many times. I wanted to quit, 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: but I had that grit, that grit that pushed me. 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: I was like, I want this. I don't care what 8 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: people say, I don't care what people think. I want 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: this bad enough, and I'm going to go out there 10 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: and I'm going to do it and I'm going to 11 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: get it. 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, Emily Abadi here coming to you from the 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: Age Studio. You are listening to Hurdle a While, this 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: focus podcast where I connect with everyone from your favorite 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about their highest highs, 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: toughest moments, and everything in between. We all go through 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: hurdles in life, and my goal through these discussions is 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: to empower you to better navigate yours and move with 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: intention so that you can stride towards your own big 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: potential and of course have some fun along the way. 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: For episode one ninety. 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: Three, Wow, Where's the time Gone? I am chatting with 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: Mikhayla Skinner. She's a gymnast and Olympic silver medalist, and 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: we're really getting into it today. I mean, we are 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: talking about some high highs and some low flows. 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: But Kayla talks to me about how. 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: Challenging twenty twenty and twenty twenty one were for her, 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: dealing with the postponement of the Olympics, catching COVID followed 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: by pneumonia while already dealing with a painful bone spur. 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: All this it had her out of gymnastics for over 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: a month, super emotionally taxing, especially again during an Olympic year. 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: She talks to me about the emotions that surrounded. 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: That big moment with teammates Mombiles in Tokyo, and how 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: it fell for her to show up for her team 35 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: and her country, and plus I ask her what it's 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: been like to be heavily criticized. A lot of people 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: have a lot of opinions about Mikila and her confidence, 38 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: and we talk about where that comes from, where she 39 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: gets her confidence from, where she finds her motivation. We 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: also get into what she wants to do next, what 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: her hopes and dreams are coming down the pipe. 42 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: And so much warm. Thanks so much Mikila for this combo. 43 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: We had some technical difficulties coming into it, but I'll 44 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: all ended up with a really good. 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: Chat to bring here to the feed today. 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm keeping this intro short and sweet this week, but 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: I do want to throw a little like challenge into 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: the mix. 49 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: If you will for social media, I would love it. 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: If you are a regular hurdler, if you identify as 51 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: a hurdler, do meet a sola this week on your 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: social media, post your favorite episode. Everyone has the ability 53 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: to throw a link into their Instagram stories now, so 54 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: if you could in your Instagram story post a screen 55 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: grab and a link to your favorite hurdle episode, Tell 56 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: your friend friends, tell your followers what it is that 57 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: you like. It doesn't matter how big you're following is. 58 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 2: It helps get the show out there, It helps bread 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: the word and that makes all the difference. I'm excited 60 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: to see which ones are your favorites again over at 61 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: Hurtle Podcast. 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily a Body And with that, let's 63 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: get to hurdling today. 64 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: I am sitting down with Mikayla Skinner. She is an 65 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: Olympic silver medalist gymnast. How you doing to name Mikayla, 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good. 67 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Thanks. 68 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: How are you feeling right now? 69 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: You are at least four months removed from Tokyo, How 70 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: are you feeling at this point? 71 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: I feel like life's been treating me pretty good. It's 72 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: kind of nice waking up not having to stress about 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: going into the gym and you know, wanting to cry 74 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: or it's going to be a hard day and having 75 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: to work to get through it. So it's actually been 76 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: really really good. I've I've been enjoying life and kind 77 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: of enjoying being a normal person. 78 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: It's kind of weird a animal person. 79 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: You have had such an impressive career thus far as 80 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: a gymnast, and I am so excited just to hear 81 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: a little bit more about it from your POV. I mean, 82 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: let me click into some of these headlines that I 83 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: remember seeing last year. Mikayla Skinner pulled it off, Mikayla 84 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: Skinner Whents Unexpected Silver Medalist, the Untold Truth of Mikayla Skinner, 85 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: so many different angles and whatnot. But for you, how 86 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: do you feel about how things went in Tokyo? 87 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: A lot of emotions are all over the place. I mean, 88 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: it was just such a crazy journey. I mean, even 89 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: coming into this it was like I didn't know if 90 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: I was going to make the Olympic team. I just 91 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: wanted to have no regrets. I wanted to come back 92 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: into it knowing that I did everything I could, because 93 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: the Olympics has always been my dream ever since I 94 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: was a little girl, and you know, going into college, 95 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I'm still throwing these huge 96 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: skills that I could go back into Elite and my 97 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: body would be able to hold up because in college 98 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: I never really got injured. I was still doing really good, 99 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, age is just a number, 100 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: so why not let's go and try this. So I 101 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: never would have thought I was gonna make the Olympic team. 102 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: I know, I placed fourth at Olympic Trials in twenty sixteen, 103 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: but going into Tokyo and being named as an event 104 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: specialist was kind of was not what I was expecting. 105 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: I came back into Elite trying to do the four 106 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: man team just because Jade Carey they had already said, 107 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: was trying for the individual spot and me and her 108 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: are very similar in floor in vault, so I decided, 109 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, okay, I'll I'll do the four even though 110 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm not good at bars and beam, but I'll go 111 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: for it anyway. So I did, and then of course 112 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: I placed fifth at Olympic Trials and he decides to 113 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: take you know, rank order, which is totally fine, but 114 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: then I was kind of left, you know, am I 115 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: gonna make it? Are they gonna put me alternate again? 116 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: Like I didn't know what to expect, And then he 117 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: put me as the event specialist and I was like, oh, okay, 118 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: Like I made the Olympic team, so I can't complain, 119 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: but this is definitely be very different than when I 120 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: was ever expecting. So I kind of went into it 121 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: with a little bit of a different mindset than I 122 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: thought I was going to. But I was like, I 123 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: just going to make the best of this. I'm going 124 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: to do this for me and for nobody else. That's 125 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: the most important thing. So being able to go into 126 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: Tokyo and you know, try to place individually was really 127 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: really hard, especially when you have simone that's really good 128 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: on floor invault and you have Jade. So I knew 129 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: there's going to be kind of a competition and there's 130 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: a chance I wouldn't make anything. So my main goal 131 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: was going into prelims, just trying to do the best 132 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: that I could do, to go out there, give it 133 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: my all, compete my hardest because I was like, this 134 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: could be, you know, my last competition ever as an 135 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: elite gymnast. So I went in, did everything I could 136 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: and killed it. Had the meat of my life, which 137 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: was just crazy. You know, still didn't make anything, but 138 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: of course everybody knows the story of how, you know, 139 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: Simone had to back out and I got to go in, 140 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: So I don't know. It was just the the craziest experience. 141 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: Never would have thought it would have happened, but at 142 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: least making it to Tokyo was just that was just 143 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: a dream come true. Never would have thought that would 144 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: have happened with you know, COVID and everything that postponed 145 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: me with getting COVID in pneumonia and my foot injury. 146 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: So it was just I was just grateful to be there. 147 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: So much to digest here. Nothing has happened, is basically 148 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: what I heard you just I heard you just explain 149 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: first and foremost, let's talk about I guess the word underdog. 150 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: I feel like we hear that a lot when it 151 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: comes to your story, especially when it comes to a 152 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: lot of your critics, you mentioned being a gymnast in 153 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: college and then coming out to go back into elite, 154 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: So talk to us about kind of how that works 155 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: for people that are unfamiliar with retirement versus like unretiring. 156 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, So after twenty sixteen, I decided to go 157 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: to college and I wanted to try something different. I 158 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: kind of hated elite gymnastics just because it was so brutal, 159 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: and you know, with the Marta era, it was just 160 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: hard and abusive, and I was just ready to move 161 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: on try something different. Went to college, fell in love 162 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: with the sport. For people that don't really know or 163 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: college gymnastics, it's a lot easier. You train like twenty 164 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: hours a week. In elite gymnastics, you're training thirty two 165 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: plus hours a week. So it's just a big, big, 166 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: big difference. I was like, Wow, this is nice, Like 167 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: I don't have to train that much. My skills are 168 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: a lot easier. For my fluorotine, it used to be 169 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: four passes and three the passes you're running off of 170 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: one foot, and then you go to college, it's like 171 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: three simple, easy passes. But I decided to keep some 172 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: of my elite skills in college, even though I wouldn't 173 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: get the difficulty for it. So that kind of what 174 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: made me stand out compared to everybody else, which that's 175 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: kind of what I wanted. I feel like college is 176 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: all kind of on the same level, and I just 177 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: wanted to be different. And I feel like I have 178 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: made such a difference in college because now when I 179 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: go back and watch within the last two years and 180 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: I was watching Utah and watching the girls compete, it's 181 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: so cool to see some of them throwing the bigger tricks, 182 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: you know, even though they don't get the difficulty for it. 183 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: So I love that. But yeah, I decided to come 184 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: back into elite. Thought I had retired. I was like, 185 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: after my freshman year, I was like, I am never 186 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: going back to elite gymnastics. Like college is great, Like 187 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: this is awesome. I'm living my best life. It's so 188 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: much fun to be with a team and to have 189 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: like a sisterhood and to just go out there and 190 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: compete and enjoy what you're doing instead of feeling stressed 191 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: and like you're going to throw up all the time. So, 192 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: thinking I was retired but soon comes to be, I 193 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: decided my junior year. Right after season, I kind of 194 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: thought about it the whole year, decided to come back 195 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: to Elite, and you when you when you think about it, 196 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: you kind of are like, oh, yeah, Like I know 197 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: Elite gymnastics was really hard, but like at the time, 198 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: I kind of like forgot how hard it was just 199 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: because it had been three years and so, like I 200 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: knew it was going to be hard, but once I 201 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: got back into the gym, I was like, what did 202 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: I get myself into? This sucks, Like this is so 203 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: much harder than I thought, because like even though I 204 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: was doing some hard skills in college, it's like you 205 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: forget you have to add in that fourth pass on 206 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: floor your bar team has like twenty more skills in it. 207 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: And then I have to go back learning a pack 208 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: instead of doing a bail and I hit my chin 209 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: on the bar about broke my face, just like so 210 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: many things. And the older you get, gymnastics gets scarier. 211 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: I forget like I used to be such a daredevil 212 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: and was like I'll throw anything, chuck anything, like I 213 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: don't care. But the older you get, you realize you're like, wow, 214 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: this is actually really scary, and I know that I 215 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: can seriously get hurt. So it was definitely an adjustment 216 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: for me. But in three months of coming back into elite, 217 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: I competed at Classics and then two weeks later made 218 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: the national team and then made the world's team, you know, 219 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: all of three months of training, which I don't think 220 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: anybody's ever done that, And it's been very rare for 221 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: elite gymnasts that went to college to come back. I 222 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: know Brenna dal did it, you know, going into twenty 223 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: sixteen Olympics, but I think I've kind of been the 224 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: only one that has done something like this, which I 225 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: think is really really cool. But I hope that I've 226 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: been able to inspire so many other athletes, like knowing, 227 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, no matter how old you are, you can 228 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: still do gymnastics as long as you watch your training, 229 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: take care of yourself, and you know, don't train as 230 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: many hours. 231 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 2: And I would say that that attitude is something that 232 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: obviously carries along with you into the rest of the 233 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: things that you do. Right obviously learning that in that 234 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: time period that when you're willing to put in the 235 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: hard work and really dedicate yourself to something, then like 236 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: really awesome and amazing things can happen. And what I 237 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: also hear from you as you talk about all of 238 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: this and share your story is such a presence about you, 239 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: but also like a really large amount of pride, and 240 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: at times, as many people may know, that pride and 241 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: perhaps that confidence has also been something that others have 242 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: looked at as maybe a little too much. So talk 243 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: to me about how you feel about that pride and 244 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: that confidence that you bring not just to your gymnastics, 245 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: but of course to everything else that you do. 246 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's been hard. I mean, you know a 247 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: lot of people just sit online thinking, you know, they 248 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: know everything about you. But if anything, I've been through 249 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: so many trials, there's so many things to my story. 250 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: I want to write a book. I kind of want 251 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: to write a book doing about me, my coach's perspective, 252 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: and the parent's perspective, because with most books, you know, 253 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: you kind of get the story of the athlete, but 254 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: I want people to really know like what the parents 255 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: have to go through with the coaches have to go through, 256 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: and kind of all the behind the scenes stuff that 257 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't get to see or hear about. 258 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: And there's been so many devastating things that I've had 259 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: to go through and had to overcome, and you know, 260 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: prayed and decided to keep going because this is what 261 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: I was supposed to do and it was just really hard. 262 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to give up so many times. I wanted 263 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: to quit, but I had that grit, that grit that 264 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: pushed me. I was like, I want this. I don't 265 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: care what people say, I don't care what people think. 266 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: I want this bad enough, and I'm going to go 267 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: out there and I'm going to do and I'm going 268 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: to get it. And I think a lot of people 269 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: could see, you know, wow, Mikayla. You know fell, she 270 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: got back up, she kept going, she kept pushing, and 271 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, look where she came. She pushed through all 272 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: of that and ended up at the top. And I think, 273 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, those fails are definitely what made me stronger. 274 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: And I know I can kind of be a little 275 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: spicy and you know, kind of have a little go 276 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: go get it attitude. But if anything, I think my 277 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: competitiveness is what brings it out in me. I'm super competitive. 278 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: If I'm playing a board game with my family, Jonas's family, 279 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: my husband's side of the family. He even my husband's 280 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: really competitive, so we don't do good when we play 281 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: games together, but it gets really intense. I get really heated. 282 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: If I lose, I just I can't. I have to 283 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: like leave the room. I'm like, this is it? So 284 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: I think, if anything, the reason that I'm you know, 285 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: that helps me my gymnastics is just being so competitive. 286 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: I I want to go out there. I want to win. 287 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: I want to show people how hard I've worked. And 288 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I know it's not always about the 289 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: medals or you know, the trophies or you know, the 290 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: money anything like that. It's not It's about showing that 291 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: all my hard work has paid off. And I wanted 292 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: to be there. I wanted to be good. I wanted 293 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: to catch up to Simone. I want I want to 294 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: be as high as they are. They're amazing athletes. And 295 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, if you want it bad enough, like I said, 296 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: never give up, anything is possible. You just got to 297 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: go out there and get it. So yeah, I think, 298 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes life isn't fair, and you know, sometimes 299 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: you get pissed off. That just happens. But if anything, 300 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: I just you know, want to go out there and 301 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: just show the world what I got. And you know, 302 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: I want to be that inspiration for so many girls 303 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: out there, and gymnastics is hard. You want to quit. 304 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: There's blood, sweat and tears, and it's just a hard sport. 305 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: But it's definitely worth it if you just keep working 306 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: at it, and you know, you never give up on it. 307 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: You mentioned being knocked down so many times, and of 308 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: course you also mentioned COVID and pneumonia before the Olympics. 309 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: Before we get to that point, let's even dial it 310 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: back a little bit more, reflecting on some of those 311 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: times previous to twenty twenty one that you truly felt 312 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: just like you were totally knocked down on your knees. 313 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: When I bring that up for you, what comes to mind. 314 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: Honestly, just that year pushing through it with COVID, I 315 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: just I seriously wanted to quit. I was like this, 316 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't even know if this is worth it. I 317 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: might Me and my husband are married. He's had to 318 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: take time off of school. I had to take time 319 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: off of school as well, and you know, there's so 320 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: much to life, and I was like, is this even 321 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: like worth it just for a sport? You know, I'm like, 322 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: does it really even matter? Like even though like the 323 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: Olympics is such a big deal. I was like, is 324 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: that even worth it? Like, I know, I've worked so 325 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: hard for it, but I was like, this is just 326 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: brutal having to stay another year. I only had expected 327 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: to train for a year, and I was doing so well, 328 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: and I'd pushed so hard, and I was like, I 329 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: wanted to do this for a year. That's all I 330 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: want to do. Just give it one year. And you know, 331 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: it was really hard. I wanted to quit every day. 332 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: I was crying every single day. My body was in 333 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: so much pain. I was telling my husband, I'm like, 334 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry you have to deal with me because 335 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: I just feel like a wimpy little baby. But it's 336 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: it's true. My body, it's exhausting. Allegimnastics was just so hard. 337 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: So I think definitely going into that last push, you know, 338 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: before season was starting, going into the Olympic year, it 339 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: was just it was hard. I seriously wanted to quit 340 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: every single day. I then I had to take a 341 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: step back and was like I had to tell myself, 342 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, why are you doing this. I wrote down 343 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: on a piece of paper, I do two circles, and 344 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: in the middle circle it was you know, the topic, 345 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: and then on each side was what I can control 346 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: and what I can't control, and so I had to 347 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: push all the things that I couldn't control and focus 348 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: on the things that I could and the reasons why 349 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to do this and why I'm here and 350 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: why I should never give up. So it's definitely been 351 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: a challenge, but look, I pushed through it, and you know, 352 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: everything just fell into place the way it was supposed to, 353 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: and I just had had faith in God that this 354 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: is what I was supposed to do, and even you know, 355 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: being at the Olympic Games, I had gotten down on 356 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: my knees and prayed and prayed and prayed and just 357 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: had an overwhelming feeling of knowing, you know, this isn't 358 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to end. And so it was 359 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: just so crazy the whole thing played out, you know, 360 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: with saman it was very unfortunate and it was just devastating, 361 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: and I was crying myself because I was like, I 362 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: didn't want this for her. You know, me and her 363 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: have been really good friends for a long time and 364 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: it was really sad to see her have to go 365 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: through that. But even just the love and support that 366 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: she had and was giving me to be able to 367 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: step in for her was just incredible. It just felt 368 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: so amazing to have that love and support from her, 369 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: because it would have, you know, made it worse if 370 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: we didn't have, you know, that great friendship and that 371 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: love for each other. But I'm super grateful for all 372 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: the opportunities that I've had, all the trials that I've had, 373 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: all the setbacks. I think, if anything, those have made 374 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: me stronger. I'm glad that it didn't just come easy 375 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: and I got to win everything or you know, get 376 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: first all the time. I'm glad that I've had these 377 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: trials because it's it's going to set me up for 378 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: life to know that I can conquer anything that comes 379 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: my way. 380 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: You know, you're sharing something that is just such a 381 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: through line with what we talked about here on the 382 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: show is the idea that it's not in our easiest, breezy, 383 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: most like victorious moments that we learn a ton of 384 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: these lessons, but rather in these trials, in these tribulations, 385 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: in these struggles, that you have the opportunity to really 386 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: learn not just about your circumstance in the situation, but 387 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: how to better move forward in your day to day 388 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: to give us a accurate timeline. 389 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: So when did you get COVID. 390 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it's been a while now, 391 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: so I got I remember, but it was like during 392 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and like Christmas. I got it like a couple 393 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: days after my birthday. So I was really really sick 394 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: for two weeks and kind of thought I was starting 395 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: to get better. After there was like twelve days We 396 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: went to Utah for Christmas, which probably didn't help traveling 397 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: and you know, being in Utah because I was preezing. 398 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: But even Jonas's family could just tell like I wasn't myself. 399 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: I was just really tired, was sleeping all day. Even 400 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: though I was feeling better, my body just had no energy. 401 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: And I was like crying to Jonas. I'm like, I 402 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: just really don't feel good. And I was like, I 403 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen. Like I got to 404 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: start training, you know, the Olympics is coming up in 405 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: the summer, so it was just a really really stars 406 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: full time. And right before that, I had a bone 407 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: spur in the back of my foot. So it was 408 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: like a huge bone spur kind of up by my achilles, 409 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: and so we kind of thought maybe I should do 410 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: surgery to take it out. But it's kind of like 411 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: I think I've had this most of my life. It's 412 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: just growing and it's gotten bigger. So we decided not 413 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: to do the surgery. I did a PRP injection, did 414 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: lots of shockwave therapy and different things to strengthen it 415 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: and get it better because the surgery just would have 416 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: kept me out too long. So I did all that, 417 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: and right as I just started to come back from 418 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: kealing and I got to start tumbling again, I got 419 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: hit with the COVID. So it was just like one 420 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: thing after the other and I was just like I 421 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: just kind of felt like giving up at this point. 422 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: So that Sunday, when I started feeling sick again, I 423 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: was like, this just can't be happening. Like I'm so 424 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: far behind. I don't even know if this is worth 425 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: going to the Olympics. So right after that, the next day, 426 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: I called my mom and Jonas was leaving for work 427 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: for a week and so he was going to some 428 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: other state, and so I went to my mom's house. 429 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: She's like, come to my house and I was just 430 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: falling and I was like, I just really don't feel good. 431 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what's wrong with me. My parents sent 432 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: me to the hospital and I was there for like 433 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: six or eight hours and I had pneumonia, so they 434 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: gave me an injection, put me on beds, and then 435 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: I had to take like a whole another ten days 436 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: off from gymnastics. So I was out for like a month, 437 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: and it was like the longest I've ever been out 438 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: of gymnastics because I've never had injuries that have kept 439 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: me out for a long period of time. I've never 440 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: had a surgery, so it's kind of crazy thinking my 441 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: whole career of gymnastics, I've never had a surgery or 442 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: a broken bone besides a stress fracture in my back 443 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: that I got an injection for and just kept going. 444 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 1: So it was just it was. It was hard. It 445 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: was I didn't even think I was going to be 446 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: able to make it even coming back. My durance was 447 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: so bad, but I pushed through it and was able 448 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 1: to come back. I just had to take things one 449 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: day at a time and take it slow, but it was. 450 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: It was pretty wild. 451 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 2: Taking a break from today's episode to talk to you 452 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: about my sponsors. 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That's drink 514 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: lmnt dot com slash hurdle. 515 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: Well, let's get back to it. 516 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: So, starting off an Olympic year with back to back 517 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 2: COVID pneumonia and then feeling just I mean, as of 518 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: those two things for anyone wouldn't be like a complete 519 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: downer to then have to navigate the frustrations that come 520 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: hand in hand with not being able to exercise or 521 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 2: move how you want to. I can't even like, I'm 522 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: just sitting here shaking my head thinking about how frustrating 523 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: that must have been. I would assume at this point, 524 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 2: aside from Jonas and your immediate family, it probably really 525 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: helped to perhaps talk to like a therapist or a 526 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: sports psychologist about what you were dealing with. 527 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I had Clay, my mental trainer, and 528 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: he's from Utah, and he reached out through us through 529 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: social media and was just like, hey, I don't know 530 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: if you've ever had one before, but like I'd love 531 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: to help you, you know, going back into your elite career, 532 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: and if there's anything you want help with or anything 533 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: that I can do, just let me know. So we 534 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: decided to use him, and you know, we have our 535 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: YouTube channel, so he thought it'd be cool to share 536 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: with other athletes that need help because I realized how 537 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: much it was helping me, and so we're like, we 538 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: wanted to share this with others. So we did a 539 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: little YouTube video about it, and he worked with me, 540 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: you know up until the Olympics, which was really cool, 541 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: and he gave so many things that just really helped. 542 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: And you know, I've had different mental trainers before and 543 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: coaches that have talked to me, and sometimes I feel 544 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: like there's stuff just kind of messing me up, getting 545 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: in my head. But we really focused on things that 546 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: I needed and that I could work on and talk 547 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: to him about, even if I just vented to him 548 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: about you know, my coach was doing this or I'm 549 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: struggling with this. For me, it was just you know, 550 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: sometimes I got a vent. You know, Jonahs sometimes doesn't 551 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: get it. It was nice to have him be able 552 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: to help me, you know, go back and think, you know, okay, 553 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: well maybe our coach was thinking like this for this reason. 554 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: And he did also really help me be able to 555 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: talk to my coaches more. You know, I used to 556 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: be so scared to talk to my coaches and that's 557 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: something I've really had to work on in building that 558 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: relationship with my coach and you know, being able to 559 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: go up and tell her like I just can't physically 560 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: do this today, and that's okay, you know, because I 561 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: didn't want to get hurt. I didn't want to do 562 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: something stupid. So I think that's the most important thing, 563 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: is building that relationship with your coach. So he definitely 564 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: helped me in so many different ways, And I really 565 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: recommend it for all athletes because I think, you know, 566 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, even though you know you can do 567 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: what you can do and you've done it for so long, 568 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: and I thought I wouldn't ever need that, but having 569 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: that help and learning different things to help me get 570 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: through those things is what, you know, made the whole 571 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: picture come together and you know, help me make that 572 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: last push through that last year. So I think it 573 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: is very important and every athlete, every athlete needs it. 574 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean beyond every athlete, I would say, I 575 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: feel like obviously talk therapy and all of its different 576 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 2: forms can be so helpful for so many of us. 577 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: I'm also sure that it probably helped you navigating a 578 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 2: lot of the criticisms that you were receiving. Talk to 579 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 2: me about how you've been able to keep. 580 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 3: Your peace, perhaps let's call. 581 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: It that, despite the criticisms that have come your way, 582 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: whether it be via social media or other conventional sources 583 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: of media. 584 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had to learn the hard way. There's been 585 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: a couple of times, you know, where I've said stupid things, 586 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: which I feel like everybody does or makes mistakes, or 587 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: sometimes you say something but it doesn't need this and 588 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: people take it as that and you're just kind of like, 589 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: that's not what I meant at all. I promise. So 590 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: it does get it does get really hard at times. 591 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: But over the years, I've just realized that, you know, 592 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: like I've said, nobody really knows you, nobody knows where 593 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 1: you come from. And I think, you know, people have 594 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: to learn, you have to grow sometimes you to make 595 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: those mistakes to grow as a person. And if anything, 596 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: you know, I just feel like sometimes people like to 597 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: sit on social media and savrude things because it makes 598 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: themselves feel better. So if anything, sometimes when I see 599 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: a comment pop up, I kind of just laugh and 600 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you don't know anything, so it's just 601 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: it's just kind of funny. I just kind of laugh 602 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: at it and kind of make it like a joke 603 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: more than like, oh that's offensive where it hurts, and 604 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: I just kind of will either, you know, block that 605 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: account if they're going to say hurtful things. It's like 606 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: if you have nothing nice to say, don't say it 607 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: at all. 608 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: Like, I'm sure you didn't always have that approach though, right, 609 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: Like I'm sure you said it took you time, Like 610 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 2: do you remember before you maybe got to this place 611 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: where you understood more of like kind of the thought 612 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: process and why these people might be saying these things 613 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: of how you weren't this excellent at reacting this way. 614 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I got a lot of quick criticism 615 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: too because I'm not flexible, and I totally get it, 616 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: like being a gymnast, you need to be flexible, you 617 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: need to have execution. But it's like they don't understand 618 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: that I've worked so hard to get more flexible, but 619 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: my body just isn't flexible. I've tried so many things. 620 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: Every time I go to therapy, I go to doctors, 621 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: they just can't believe how my body and all my 622 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: joints just don't move. And so sometimes I'm like, I'm like, 623 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: I wish I could just tweet and say, like I 624 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: should get extra credit for being able to do gymnastics 625 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: without being able to bend. I'm like, now I see 626 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: why it's so hard for people that are like famous musicians, 627 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: artists like I'm just like, I don't know how they 628 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: do it. But if anything, I just had to sit 629 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: back and take the time and just say, you know, 630 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: people are gonna say mean things. It happens, you know, 631 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: I've you know, everyone talks behind people's backs, and that's 632 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: just something that you have to sit back and realize, like, Okay, 633 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: like I shouldn't do that. That's actually really rude, that's 634 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: really hurtful. And so sometimes I kind of just look 635 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: at it like that, like, you know, they just got 636 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: to learn from their mistakes and hopefully they can be 637 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: a better person. And I feel like, you know, this 638 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: day and age, like we all just need to come together. 639 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: Everybody needs to be nice, you know, with COVID and 640 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: everything going on, the world's just been crazy, and I 641 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: think the best thing to do is just be a 642 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: friend and just love everybody for who they are. So yeah, 643 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: I just I just had to take a step back 644 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: and just be like, I just I can't look at this. 645 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: This isn't worth my time. And it's really hard sometimes 646 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: not to want to respond and just be like that's 647 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: not that's not what it is, you know. But if anything, 648 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: you just got to ignore it and just move on 649 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: with your day and you know who you are, you 650 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: know yourself, and you know what you believe in. So 651 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: you just got to stick up for yourself and just 652 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: keep being you. And for me, just helping those those girls. 653 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: It's social media is hard. I think a lot of 654 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: people struggle and I've struggled, you know, with the way 655 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: that social media is. And it's just like I just 656 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: want to post, you know, positive things, and hopefully other 657 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: girls can take that and you know, feel that positivity 658 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: in their life as well. 659 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 660 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: And I mean you're not just talking about social media 661 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: in terms of Instagram and Twitter. You have like a 662 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: massive YouTube following. Talk to us a little bit about 663 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: what it was like for you to kind of get 664 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: into that platform and what it is that you like 665 00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: about it. 666 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I've always wanted to start a YouTube channel. 667 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: It was just hard because so I know how to 668 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: edit videos because I've gone to school for communications and 669 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: journalism because I want to do sports broadcasting. I took 670 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: a video production class and I just hated editing. So 671 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even know where to start 672 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 1: with this. I don't know who to hire for an editor, 673 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: and like there's just so much that goes into it. 674 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: So I kind of pushed it off. I wanted to 675 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: start it in college and you know, kind of show 676 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: people what the college scene is like and you know 677 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: what we do behind the scenes. Never happened. And then 678 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: when I got married. My husband when he was younger 679 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: and his friends would make like funny videos and so 680 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: he would edit them and he was actually like really good. 681 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: So he was like, if we start a YouTube channel, 682 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: I'll edit, I'll do it, Like, let's do it. This 683 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: will be so fun, like let's document your journey. And 684 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: so I was like, okay, we'll do it. And it 685 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: was kind of hard at first. I didn't realize how 686 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: hard YouTube was, and it's so stressful because you know, 687 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: to keep getting that following, you need a post two 688 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: to three times a week, and I'm just like, I 689 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: have so much going on in my life that is 690 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: just really hard. So we tried to stick with once 691 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: a week. Sometimes it would be like every two weeks, 692 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: and currently it's like once a month. But we've had 693 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: the holidays and I went on tour and we've I 694 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: just kind of needed a break. I needed a break 695 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: from social media. I just I just don't like hatching 696 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: to post all the time. I'm just like, I just 697 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: want to live my life. I want to be in 698 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: the moment and enjoy it and not have to worry 699 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: about I gotta get a picture, I got to document this. 700 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: Like I get people want to see that and they 701 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: love that. But at the same time, I'm like, I 702 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: just want to live my life. So it's been kind 703 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: of hard. But YouTube's just it's been a blasts. It's 704 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: really sad because you know, I started the YouTube to 705 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: do documenting my journey to the Olympics. Jonas was in 706 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: the gym all the time filming me moving my mat. 707 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: It was just a blast. And so now we're trying 708 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: to transition into like what do I do now with YouTube? 709 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: Because my whole YouTube was about gymnastics, and so I'm 710 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: not doing that anymore. So we're trying to come up 711 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: with different ways and different videos of different things we 712 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: can do. So YouTube might be a little bit of 713 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: a struggle for a little bit, but I hope that 714 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: it gets you know, going again, and I want to 715 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: I want to be I just want to be that inspiration. 716 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: I want to help people. I don't know if that 717 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: will ever be through YouTube, but like I just I 718 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: want to make a difference in the world. I want 719 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: to make a difference. You know, even in college gymnastics, 720 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: there's so many things that I feel like could be changed, 721 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: could be different, And like I said, social media is hard, 722 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: and so I just want to help people be able 723 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: to get through that and know that, you know, it's 724 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: not what it what it seems like. So who inspires 725 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: you through gymnastics. I'd have to say Sean Johnson was 726 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: always my role model, but I think like the main 727 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: person that inspires me has been my sister Chelsea. I 728 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: don't know if that sounds kind of cheesy, but I've 729 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: been able to follow in her footsteps and she's a 730 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: mom of four and you know she's been through it. 731 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: You know she helps me. I can call her whenever, 732 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: and you know, she always knows the right things to 733 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: say and what to do. So I'm just super grateful 734 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: for her and her experiences and you know, her journey 735 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: that has helped support mine to get to where I am. 736 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: So she's been my biggest cheerleader, my lucky charm. So 737 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: she's inspired me. 738 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 3: You mentioned the Gold Over America Tour. 739 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 2: What was it like to jump into that straight after 740 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 2: coming home from the Olympics. 741 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: It was really hard. I remember when I was signing 742 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: on a tour. I met with the whole crew at 743 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: Olympic Trials after the first day of competition, which was 744 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: kind of crazy because I was like, I didn't want 745 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: it to be a distraction, but at the same time, 746 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to do it, so I was like, well, 747 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: let's just talk because they were all there. So I 748 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: went and met with them, and I was super excited 749 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: and wanted to do it, and I knew when the 750 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: time came around, i'd be like, I don't want to 751 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: do it just because the whole if I went to 752 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: the Olympics and with everything going on, I was just like, 753 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: I'm just going to be exhausted and I'm still gonna 754 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: have to be doing gymnastics and traveling. And I did 755 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of the Kellogg's Tour after twenty sixteen, 756 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: and I didn't do the whole tour, but I did 757 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: like nine cities and I was exhausted, so I kind 758 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: of knew what to expect, but I was like, this 759 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: is going to be thirty five cities in a month 760 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: and a half. Usually the Kellogg's tours three months long. 761 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: You do maybe three shows a week with the With 762 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: the Goldover America tour, we did five shows a week, 763 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: two days off, so it was just a lot, but 764 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun. I met one of 765 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: the dancers, Alexa. I me and her became really good friends. 766 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: And she lives in LA right now, but she's from Utah, 767 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: so she comes here a lot. They were just here 768 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: for Christmas, so it's really fun getting to see her 769 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: and just making all those memories. And the last show 770 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: definitely hit me hard, just because I was like, I'm 771 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: basically retiring now. I mean, you can never say never. 772 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: Who knows if I'll make a comeback. Not saying I am, 773 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: but you just never know. But I I just got 774 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: so emotional. I was like, this is all coming to 775 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: an end. And I made the Olympic team, I made 776 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: all my goals I could check off the list, you know, 777 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: and I'm here on the tour just getting to enjoy 778 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: it now. Just getting to live my life, having some 779 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: fun and having all these people come and watch us 780 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: was just it was just incredible. I'm like, we have 781 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 1: a story to tell. I'm so glad that they came 782 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: and that they all enjoyed it and got something from it. 783 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: You know, all of us, you know, have our own 784 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: stories and our own experiences, and we got to tie 785 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: it all in and share it with the world. So 786 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: it was it was incredible and I wish I could 787 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: relive it, not maybe be with twenty girls every day, 788 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: but it was, it was. It was so cool. I 789 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: don't know if you've got a chance to see it 790 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: or see anything on social media, but it was. It 791 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: was incredible, so super grateful I got the opportunity and 792 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: the opportunity that they asked me to be a part 793 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: of it. So it was fun. 794 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 2: You mentioned checking off all of your goals. When you 795 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: think about like what's to come, what excites you Right now. 796 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: It's so hard. I feel like I'm really lazy right now. 797 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm like I just want to like sit, it's okay. 798 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: I want to say it's okay, but then I kind 799 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: of feel like I'm not productive and it's so hard 800 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: because my every day I'm you know, doing something seven 801 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: hours a day, and I'm just like now, just like 802 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: don't know what to do with myself. But at the 803 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: same time, it's like awesome, Like I just kind of 804 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: want to sit and stare at the wall and do 805 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: nothing like that sounds fun to me. I'm like, is 806 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 1: that weird? But I mean, I'm going back to school 807 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: to finish my senior year, so a little bit stressed 808 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: about that. But I mean, I've been doing so many collaborations, 809 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: working with my agent, doing some fun things that I've 810 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: always wanted to do. I just came out with a 811 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: dress with Ide Citykill. I'm coming out with a leotard 812 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: collection with Ozone, which is coming out this month. There's 813 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: just so many fun opportunities that I've wanted to do 814 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: for a really long time. So it's really cool to 815 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: see all my dreams come true and that they're happening 816 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: and I can bring them to life. So it's just 817 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: been it's been fun. So we'll see what the future brings. 818 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to school for sports broadcasting. We'll 819 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: see if I decide to do that or not. I 820 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: also would like to start my own company of some 821 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: sort down the road. I want to start a family, 822 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: so hopefully the next year. So I'm excited. 823 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 2: There's absolutely nothing on your to do list. Maybe I'll 824 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 2: go into sports broadcasting, maybe I have a child. 825 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, maybe maybe maybe we'll see I know. 826 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, well, I mean, yeah, I don't blame 827 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 2: you for wanting to sit around and look at the 828 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: wall for a little while and meet Aside from traveling 829 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 2: all over the place, to finally be still, I'm sure 830 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: is like one large exhale, but also probably a little 831 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 2: bit unsettling at the same time. 832 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, you finally. 833 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 2: Have the opportunity to like sit down with thoughts that 834 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 2: you probably hadn't had moments or time to truly process 835 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 2: before this point. 836 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 1: It's fun. It's fun to not stress. I just remember 837 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: like waking up and wanting to throw up, or like 838 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: I would want to sleep intill like nine or ten 839 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 1: o'clock because it got my mind off of thinking about 840 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: the day or what was going on, you know, that 841 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: week if I was going to camp or going to 842 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: a meet, and it was just it just made me 843 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: feel so sick, and I was just like, it's weird 844 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: not having that like hover over me anymore. Like I 845 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: just I feel so good. It's like a nice stress reliever. 846 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: I just feel I feel good. I haven't missed gymnastics yet, 847 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: which I'm surprised. I feel like maybe once college season 848 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: starts an Elite season starts back up. I'm sure I'll 849 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: miss it a lot more, but like right now, I'm 850 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: just like, this is great. Like I've waited so long 851 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: for this moment to just enjoy life, go on vacation 852 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: because I've done twenty years of gymnastics. Haven't had the 853 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 1: time to do that. So now I get to live 854 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: my life. So it's fun. I love it. 855 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean not for nothing, but to have 856 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 2: this time to home back in and focus in on 857 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 2: your relationships, its probably really special. 858 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: Oh it's so fun. I mean, I feel like this 859 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: is the time me and Jonas really get to spend 860 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: time together because we got married in twenty nineteen, November 861 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, right before COVID happened, so we were lucky 862 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: on that, but of course, you know, we were stuck 863 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: with each other inside the house and I was doing gymnastics. 864 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: I feel like we really haven't had that time to 865 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: like bond and get to enjoy being married. It's just 866 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: been like stressful the whole time. So I don't know, 867 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: it's just been so great. I'm loving it. I love life. 868 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 2: You're kind of touching here on something that you learned 869 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: about I would argue a lot sooner than most, and 870 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 2: that is exercising boundaries that make sense for you. The 871 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 2: thing about boundaries is that oftentimes we either put them 872 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 2: up or don't put them up because we're trying to 873 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: people please, or just do what we feel like we 874 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 2: quote unquote should be doing. But for you, going after 875 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: such a massive goal, you really had to exercise your 876 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 2: boundaries very early on. 877 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Isn't that kind of crazy to think about. I'm like, 878 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: at such a young age, we have such great discipline, 879 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: and I just feel like I'm so much more mature, 880 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: which is kind of cool. I feel gymnastics really matures 881 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: you at such a young age. Yeah. I just feel 882 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: like ever since, you know, I started to lead gymnastics 883 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: and went to the Corollas ranch, it was just kind 884 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: of like whipped into shape. Knew what I wanted, knew 885 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: what I needed to do, knew I needed the rest. 886 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, again, you're talking about from such 887 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 2: a young age. It's just the experience now. I mean, 888 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: twenty years of doing anything will legitimately teach you the most. 889 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 2: So to be at this point in your career where 890 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 2: you have had all these opportunities and been able to 891 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 2: learn all of these lessons has truly been I'm sure 892 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: something that in the long run has been so advantageous 893 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 2: for you. Right now, if someone was to go to 894 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 2: your social media, of course they would see that you're 895 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 2: an Olympic silver medalist, a twenty year gymnast, someone with 896 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 2: over five hundred thousand followers. But when you look in 897 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: the mirror, what is it that you see looking back 898 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: at you? 899 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: I really like that. That's a good one. I don't know, 900 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, even this morning, just getting 901 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: ready for this podcast, you know, just reflecting on the 902 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: girl that I've grown up to be. It's just been 903 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: it's been amazing. It's amazing to see, you know, that 904 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: little girl that was working every day, crying, wanting to 905 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: give up, and she kept pushing and even you know, 906 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: with those hard days, she didn't want to quit. She 907 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: kept going in and was able to conquer the world 908 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,919 Speaker 1: she went through and she did it and she never 909 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: gave up and she keeps working hard for her dreams. 910 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: And that's just pretty cool to see. You know, through 911 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: my childhood, everything that I was able to do is 912 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 1: just it was incredible and I'm so proud of myself 913 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,399 Speaker 1: and being able to achieve the Olympics and make it here. 914 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: Just very happy with myself and couldn't be prouder. 915 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 2: A strong woman looking back at you in the mirror 916 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 2: for sure. Final question here, right now, you have an 917 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 2: opportunity to offer the Mikaela who is at the end 918 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: of the trifecta, the bone spur, the COVID, the pneumonia. 919 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: She feels like she is totally knocked down time and 920 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 2: time again. You have an opportunity to offer her one 921 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 2: piece of advice looking back on that time right now, 922 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 2: what do you tell her? 923 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: It's going to be hard and the best thing to 924 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: do is have love from your friends and family to 925 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: support you, because whenever you have those hard days, that's 926 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: what's going to make it easier. And you know, without 927 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: my friends or family, I don't think I would have 928 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: been able to do it. Not even without my husband 929 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: pushing me keeping me going, I think I would have 930 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: quit many many times. So having that love and that 931 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: support from your family will help you go a long way. 932 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 2: So grateful for your time today. I love to hear 933 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 2: a little bit more about your journey, Mikayla. How did 934 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 2: the hurdlers follow along with you? How do they keep 935 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: up with you? Give me all your details. 936 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: You guys can follow me at Mikayla Skinner twenty sixteen 937 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: on Instagram and Mikayla Skinner on Twitter and Facebook, and 938 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: with our YouTube channel just Mikayla Skinner. So follow me 939 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: along my journey. Hopefully it's still as exciting as a 940 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,959 Speaker 1: silver medal, but he can keep in touch with me there. 941 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 2: I'm over at Hurdle Podcast and at Emily Abadi another 942 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 2: Hurdle conquered. 943 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time