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Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. It's been another wild, wild week.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say in the West, but we

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Speaker 1: were now in Canada, and we have so much to

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Speaker 1: cover from last night's episode because as on Power with

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Speaker 1: the babelor there was a lot of drama that we saw,

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Speaker 1: Yes Becca, last night's episode was definitely intense. But I

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Speaker 1: am so excited that we have Gabby here today because

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Speaker 1: we saw a bit more of a serious side to her.

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Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the girls have come in

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Speaker 1: and said she's the funniest in the house, but she

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Speaker 1: definitely has depth too, and I want to dive in

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Speaker 1: with her more. I also, I am so excited to

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Speaker 1: talk about this episode because we were in Toronto, my

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Speaker 1: fast city. That's what I was thinking about the entire time.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, I wonder if Serena's bended these places

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Speaker 1: or could give them recommendations anywhere. It was fun to

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Speaker 1: see the hometown, and so I can't wait to get

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Speaker 1: into it with both you and Gabby because she obviously

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Speaker 1: got that first one on one in the New Country.

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Speaker 1: But before we do that, let's just get into last

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Speaker 1: night's episode and we have to do my favorite moment

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Speaker 1: for you, Serena our favorite fashion moment. Who all right,

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Speaker 1: let's get right. I don't know it did. Honestly, I

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Speaker 1: want that audio every single week from you. I expected

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Speaker 1: every week now and nonetheless, Okay, I wish we could

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Speaker 1: show a photo of my notes right now, because it

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Speaker 1: is such a mess on this page because there was

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Speaker 1: so many amazing fashion moments that I was just writing

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Speaker 1: them down constantly. But I think I've narrowed them down

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Speaker 1: to my favorites and I'm really excited to share them

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Speaker 1: with you. So let's here. We're gonna start off. Let's

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Speaker 1: start off with We're gonna go chronologically this week. So

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Speaker 1: night My favorite night look was Serene on her One

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Speaker 1: on one day right at the top of the episode.

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Speaker 1: I thought that her black cocktail dress was such a

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Speaker 1: staple dress. It was is kind of close to the

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Speaker 1: knee form fitting. But what I love that she did

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Speaker 1: was it had a I think it was like a

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Speaker 1: like a sparkly silver like bedazzled strap and it matched

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Speaker 1: her shoe and her earrings so well. So it just

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Speaker 1: really tied the whole look together with you know, all

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Speaker 1: of the glitz and glam, but kind of elevated that,

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Speaker 1: you know, classic staple cocktail dress. Then my day. Look,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be very excited about this one Backham because

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Speaker 1: it's going to our girl, Marleina. I love her. I

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Speaker 1: love her so much every week I don't think I

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Speaker 1: can get more obsessed with her, and I do. But

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Speaker 1: this day portion of this group date, I'm not going chronologically,

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Speaker 1: but you know, my badge, it was so many fashion moments.

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Speaker 1: We saw so many trends on this date. We saw

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Speaker 1: these long trench coats. We saw Rachel with a really

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Speaker 1: gorgeous bage cut out shirt. But Marlena takes cake for me.

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Speaker 1: She's rocking Denimo Denham and platform shoe. She's hitting two

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Speaker 1: major twenty twenty trends, and it just stood out for me.

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Speaker 1: It was this all black outfit but really pieced together

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Speaker 1: in a very cool, stylish way, perfect for the Distillery

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Speaker 1: district where they filmed the date, and last but not least,

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Speaker 1: my rose ceremony. Look, I'm gonna give two honorable mentions

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Speaker 1: because there were so many great outfits, and then I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give you my top one, So shout out to Teddy.

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Speaker 1: She was in a beautiful magenta slip dress with an

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Speaker 1: awesome shoe. I wish we had seen more of that.

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Speaker 1: I caught a glimpse of it and I wrote it down.

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Speaker 1: And Genevieve had a great gold form fitting, very elegant

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Speaker 1: gown on with I loved her earring pairing with this dress.

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Speaker 1: But I hate to do this, but I have to.

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Speaker 1: I think I think you do too. I think you

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Speaker 1: do too, And it hurts me to do it, but

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Speaker 1: I have to. My go to Rose ceremony look best

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Speaker 1: dress of the night was Channel. It was face right now,

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Speaker 1: and I tried to not do it. There was so

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Speaker 1: many great looks, but I have to. I was obsessed

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Speaker 1: with her dress. I was obsessed with the whole look.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was trendy, it was chic, it was flattering.

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Speaker 1: It stood out to me. She's bringing in the gold

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Speaker 1: she's taking my best dress at the Roast ceremony. I

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Speaker 1: knew you were gonna say it right when you pause,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I know what's coming. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to add on to well, not to Shona's look, but

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Speaker 1: again to Serene at that cocktail or yeah, the cocktail

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Speaker 1: party at the Roast ceremony, she was wearing. It was

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Speaker 1: like this shard truth mustard. Yes, and she had a

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Speaker 1: like a square or a rectangle chunky gold staring with it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and that color was beautiful. But the top, like the

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Speaker 1: thicker tank strap, but it was just so in that color.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, where is she finding? I just need a

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Speaker 1: DM Serena think to get her style picks and just

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Speaker 1: where she shops because she is just knocking it out

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Speaker 1: of the ballpark for me every single week she is.

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Speaker 1: She has some really great looks and she got the

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Speaker 1: rose on that one on one day. So lots more

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Speaker 1: good fashion looks from Serena and the women to come.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. Well now was the time. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's been fun. We've covered some fabrics, some fashion, but

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Speaker 1: we got to get into the down and dirt. Thank god.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say this, thank god we did not

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Speaker 1: talk about shrimp this week. Okay. I was if we

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Speaker 1: need to hear the women bickering about shrimp anymore, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to turn off the TV. But just like the

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Speaker 1: bast couple of weeks. Of course, we went into the

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Speaker 1: middle of an episode where there's still drama happening, just

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Speaker 1: like last week. Though, one of my issues with clay

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Speaker 1: to gain clarity on any sort of situation involving Cheney,

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Speaker 1: and that carried into this week, and I think I

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Speaker 1: left even more frustrated because we saw some great women

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Speaker 1: who I think I would say deserved to be there,

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Speaker 1: who I think are actually serious and ready to be

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Speaker 1: in a long lasting relationship go home, and that was

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Speaker 1: very unfortunate. Yeah, I would definitely agree with that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the women who went home this past week. I think

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Speaker 1: it probably came down to a lack of a connection,

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Speaker 1: But it's unfortunate that someone went home and maybe just

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Speaker 1: didn't get a fair shot overall, because so much of

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Speaker 1: Clayton's time has gone to Cheney. I mean, did we

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Speaker 1: even see him talk to anyone else other than you know,

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Speaker 1: that group chat conversation with the women and then Chenney. No. No,

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Speaker 1: And that's what I was thinking. It was weird because

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Speaker 1: then from a bystander, they didn't cancel that cocktail party.

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Speaker 1: It made it look like they had the party still,

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Speaker 1: but it was very condensed. It seemed like those were

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Speaker 1: aspect of like, you have so much to condense in

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Speaker 1: the middle of a cocktail party, but it's there at

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Speaker 1: this point, I'm like, there's so many women here that

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Speaker 1: like I'll see bits and pieces of, but not enough

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Speaker 1: of and not him conversing with. So I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: don't even know who have these women are still unless

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Speaker 1: you've been on a one on one or involved directly

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna say about the Schney thing

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Speaker 1: and that I want to I just want to point

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Speaker 1: this out. And this is not me being pro Cheney.

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Speaker 1: I do not condone her behavior. But something that I

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Speaker 1: think she did that I was actually surprised she did

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Speaker 1: this and it definitely worked in her favor, was when

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Speaker 1: Clayton pulled her aside, she sat down and went, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I went, I yelled at the girls, and I threw

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Speaker 1: the trophy in the pond. That was, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: the best, the only thing she could have done to

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Speaker 1: he was like, oh, yeah, this story lines up with

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Speaker 1: is not fed up with it at this point. Well, right,

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Speaker 1: And that's where i think not only my frustration lies,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure many of our viewers, and he's going

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Speaker 1: to hear it about. He's going to hear it from

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Speaker 1: the world this week, and I feel bad because I

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Speaker 1: kind of know what's to come for him. But at

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Speaker 1: this point, like you've had what eight women talked to

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Speaker 1: you directly telling you the situation, how she was behaving,

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Speaker 1: that I'm assuming Clayton would want to be in a

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Speaker 1: he still chose to keep her. It's still again unfortunate

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Speaker 1: that she's gotten this far based upon everything she's saying

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Speaker 1: and doing and just really I think like really working

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Speaker 1: him over, really working the girls, over being very caddy,

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Speaker 1: very two faced, pretending to be one way in front

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Speaker 1: in all of her interviews. Well, when we were watching

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Speaker 1: the IM. Where's this IM? Because I was like, she

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Speaker 1: I'm con Clayton with a lot of questions whatever. All

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Speaker 1: I gotta say is, after all this Shenee stuff, I

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Speaker 1: cannot wait for Women Tell All because it is going

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Speaker 1: to be probably the most heated Women Tell All we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. It's gonna be gonna be so good. Like

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Speaker 1: I'm a little a bit scared him up. Innna lie

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Speaker 1: like I am worried at women Tall. After everything is

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna lean into this until

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Speaker 1: the day I die. Oh gosh. I just there's gotta

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Speaker 1: being okay with now seeing how everything has played out

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Speaker 1: so far and the mad ship she's talked and how

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Speaker 1: she keeps refer she doesn't even call these this group

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Speaker 1: of women women anymore. She literally only refers to them

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Speaker 1: as bitches, which is not okay in itself. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: will be a very interesting episode, and I'm what, So

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Speaker 1: we're on episode five, so we're not that far out

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Speaker 1: from women till all. We're creeping up. It's gonna come

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Speaker 1: up quick. I mean, yeah, we're already almost halfway done

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Speaker 1: with the Sea In, which seems crazy in itself because

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Speaker 1: I feel like we just started it. But I feel

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Speaker 1: like each week we say we have there's so much

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Speaker 1: still to come, there's so much still to watch, But

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Speaker 1: like every week I get thrown for a loop and

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Speaker 1: it just keeps you know, at this point, it's just

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for the Cheney story to be done and

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Speaker 1: for like the actual love stories to unfold. I think

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Speaker 1: it's time. Well, I think we deserve that. We do

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Speaker 1: deserve it, Becca, And it does feel like we're at

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Speaker 1: that turning point where the drama has kind of peaked

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Speaker 1: first person with him to explore Toronto, you went in

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00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: the helicopter, you played some hockey. So how much fun

430
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: did you have with him during that day? Yeah, we

431
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: don't want to ask how much fun did you have

432
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: with the dog during the day? Oh my god? Oh no, No,

433
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: it was so cute. I like, Gabby is me? I

434
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: would be doing the same thing that guy. I thought that.

435
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 1: I literally thought that. I was like this girl is Becca.

436
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,239
Speaker 1: I'm actually so dead that they aired that because I

437
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: was like, not, we were like waiting to kind of

438
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: start and but yeah, but I think overall, kind of

439
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 1: like I said before, a lot of the days Clayton

440
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: and I had been on were more like playful and

441
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: heaviness into humor is huge to me. I ultimately the

442
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: person I end up with, I just want to make

443
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: sure we can like laugh and laugh throughout all of

444
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: our days. I think that's something that has longevity in it.

445
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of passion in the beginning

446
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 1: of relationships, Like there's so you know, hot and heavy

447
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: and attraction. You need all those things, but those are

448
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: also kind of the first to go to the wayside.

449
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: So personality and humor is huge for me. So knowing

450
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: that we already kind of had a connection, like a

451
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: little bit of a flirtatious vibe going on, I was

452
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: like so stoked to see, you know, if if we

453
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: could kind of keep it not only not keep it up,

454
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: but it's like you spending all day with this one person,

455
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 1: that's kind of a lot of pressure going in. So

456
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: it's like you don't want any like slow moments or

457
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: boring or what if. But that's kind of all life too.

458
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: But I feel like we just so effortless, effortlessly had

459
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: so much fun together. I feel like leaving that date,

460
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, we're like boyfriend girlfriend,

461
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that was really special because

462
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: ultimately that's what the show wants to be able to mimic,

463
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: because you want to be successful leaving the show room. Yeah. Absolutely,

464
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: I think that like friends first mentality is such a

465
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: good one because you're right, like, that's what's gonna last

466
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: if all the passion the looks fade away. You know,

467
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: being able to laugh together is so vague. And I

468
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: feel like you kind of saw you bring out Clayton's

469
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: goofy side. This was like he looked just so relaxed

470
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: in the moment on that date with you, which I

471
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: really like to see. But I was definitely jealous of

472
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: the helicopter portion of your date. Have you ever flown

473
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: the helicopter before? I haven't. No, I'm like trying to

474
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: think I've been in the helicopter before, but it was grounded,

475
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: so I yeah, it's almost a yeah, there's like I

476
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: think you can kind of tell him a little apprehensive,

477
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: not that like I'm afraid of heights, but after Susie's Day,

478
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: who like took a helicopter to like land on a

479
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: yacht and then then jumping off the yacht, I was

480
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh my gosh, are you having so

481
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: many nerves? And didn't know what I was getting myself into.

482
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: But it was so much fun and just as I

483
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: think I was able to bring out Clayton's goofy or

484
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: sillier side. He was always like very grounding for me.

485
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: It was always really easy for me to be myself

486
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: and be comfortable, even if I knew what was ahead

487
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: was going to make me uncomfortable, Having him kind of

488
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: next to me was really helpful. So what was your

489
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: favorite part overall day night that you that you experienced

490
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: was Clayton? Um, I thought the hockey game was really fun. Actually,

491
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 1: even though I'm like not a sports person, I'm no Gabby.

492
00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: I talked about the host Oh really were like if

493
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: I were Gabby would be bess if we just showed

494
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: up to this like concrete sidewalk and they're like, oh no, naturally.

495
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: I was like actually pissed off because they after having

496
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: done the football day, Like, why are they trying to

497
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: make me do sports? It's just something I don't do.

498
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: But um, we were able to make it super funny

499
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: and we basically just goofed around the whole time like

500
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't serious. Um, but I love having an excuse

501
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: to just like all bitch and complain the whole time.

502
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: But deep down, I like love, you know, anything that

503
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: makes me feel like a kid. So that was super fun.

504
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: And then I think you guys see, like us in

505
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: the hot tub or the pool that was like really fun.

506
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: And that was after there was honestly so many good

507
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: parts of the day. Um, I'm sure that you guys saw.

508
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: I really opened up to him, like on the nighttime portion,

509
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: and I knew I was ready and I wanted to

510
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: and kind of like I alluded to before, he made

511
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: it such a safe place for me, so um, after that,

512
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like a huge weight was lifted,

513
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: not just like for me and my journey, but kind

514
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: of for us, Like I feel like it brought us

515
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: so much closer. So then we got in the pool

516
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: after that, and it was like it was just so easy,

517
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: so fun and really natural. Kind of like what I

518
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: said earlier, he makes me feel so comfortable, So it

519
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: really felt like I was truly dating him, like in

520
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: a relationship, and it was the first glimpse I had had,

521
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, since coming on the show. So I feel like,

522
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: and then after that, I think you can kind of

523
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: visibly see me like relax and be so much more

524
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: comfortable around him. So I think like the whole experience

525
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: in its entirety was a huge kind of game changer

526
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: for me. Let's skip into the evening portion, because it

527
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: seemed like the day you had this great balance you

528
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: of course had the incredible helicopter, but still some down

529
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: to earth moments, and it seems so landhearted, so comfortable,

530
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: so natural. And then you go to dinner and we

531
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: saw I think this is probably the first time we

532
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: saw the more serious side to you where you were

533
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: able to open up about kind of why you are

534
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: the way you are, how you were raised. So sitting

535
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: down knowing that, Okay, I'm about to have this conversation

536
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: with Clayton, how scary or nerve racking was that for you?

537
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: I was really scared, I think, like anyone else would

538
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: be in that position. Of course, you know he I

539
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: knew that this was my chance to kind of deepen

540
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: our relationship. And I've had these conversations with boyfriends before,

541
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: and you want to make sure one that you are

542
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: sharing these things that are kind of a big part

543
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: of you that the other person is going to be

544
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: able to not not like handle it, but kind of

545
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: reciprocate and appreciate it. Like I think, so much of

546
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: what's scary about being vulnerable is you never know how

547
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: the other person is going to act. So in order

548
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: to kind of protect yourself and have some self preservation

549
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: about moving forward, you want to make sure that it

550
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 1: is a safe space, and Clayton had definitely proved to

551
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: be that for me, so I was ready. I was nervous.

552
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: I think this whole time. It you know, the season's

553
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: been airing for a while, so it's like, you know,

554
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: you should be comfortable with him. Maybe some people are

555
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: thinking this, I don't know. I'm just like kind of

556
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: coming up with scenarios. But the time you have to

557
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: wait also until it feels right. Like all of our

558
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: kind of interactions and stuff before had been really light

559
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: and funny, and sometimes that's just the way things are.

560
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: And I of course want to read the room. And

561
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: I never felt comfortable to a place where I'd be like, Okay,

562
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: I just like, whatever did all that shit on the

563
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: Lifeguard date and now I'm going to sit down and

564
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: like talk to you about kind of my childhood, Like

565
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: it didn't really match up. So I feel like, again

566
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: it was the perfect time for me to have a

567
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: one on one hand to open up, and I really

568
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: did feel confident going in that he would receive it well.

569
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: And that means so much because it's kind of like

570
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: positive reinforcement, like, oh, you can trust people and they

571
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: will appreciate where you're coming from and understand how this

572
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: makes you who you are. Well. I thought it was

573
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: an incredible moment because you not only share your story,

574
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: but one part that stuck out and resonated with me

575
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it did with many viewers is you

576
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 1: talked about putting in the work and learning from your

577
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: childhood and why those moments shaped you into the woman

578
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: you are today, but then putting in time for therapy

579
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: and how that helped grow you into the woman that

580
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: you are now able to be on the show, be

581
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: able to give your all in a relationship, to potentially

582
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: say yes to a future and a partnership at the

583
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: end of this And I thought that was such a

584
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: mature standpoint, because you know, every season there's so many

585
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: different ages maturity levels on the show. But for I

586
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: think you to sit down and talk YEP therapy has

587
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: helped me and this is why, and this is how

588
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: it shamed to me. I think was so important that

589
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: the viewers will definitely appreciate that. So thank you for

590
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: sharing that. That was I can't imagine it was easy,

591
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: but that was a big moment, and so I'm glad

592
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: that Clain was able to hear that from you. Did

593
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: you feel good in his responses to you after sharing

594
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: all of that, Oh, definitely, which I think there's also

595
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: something to be said about when something when someone does

596
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: have something to share to you that's kind of heavy

597
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: and big, sometimes there's not always a perfect response. In fact,

598
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: a lot of times I think there's not, so for me,

599
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: he kind of understood that and really just gave me space,

600
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: and I could tell with his body language and just

601
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: as overall demeanor that he in that moment he knew

602
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: he there was nothing really right of him to say,

603
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: but he just like allowed me to say it and

604
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: made me feel really safe. So I think that's really

605
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: the best thing that anyone can do for someone in

606
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: this situation. And then he said some really nice, like

607
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: heartfelt things afterwards to where I knew that not only

608
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: was he kind of processing it, but he wanted to

609
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: kind of reciprocate and give me some validation, which was

610
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: huge in that moment. I mean, and the bigger context

611
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: of things, I'm here kind of showing all of like

612
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: my deepest, darkest innards while there's, however, many women still here,

613
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, at home, but you take that chance. And

614
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: he made me feel really good doing that. So yeah, yeah, well,

615
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: I think we've seen that kind of theme. We've heard

616
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: a lot of women say that he really made you

617
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: guys feel safe, which I think is such a wonderful quality.

618
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: And I think it was really beautiful seeing you open

619
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: up and be vulnerable, and you just came across so

620
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: confident and self aware and mature in your delivery. Thank you.

621
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: So I really commend you for that. And I'm pro therapy. Also,

622
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: I love therapy. I think it's the best thing. Oh yeah,

623
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I don't think we hear enough

624
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: about that on the show. So I think that it

625
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: was great to kind of have that advocacy moment. I

626
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: do want to ask you a question. I'm taking so

627
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: long to get to it, but welcome to my word

628
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: three back. I'm turning into you. But you discussed um.

629
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: So when we saw you discuss this with Clayton, you

630
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: started off by sharing, UM, how you are good at

631
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: giving love but not receiving love and why that has

632
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: um why you were like that, And I just want

633
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: to know because I thought that was such a brave

634
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: and almost important thing to share with a partner. Is

635
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: that something that you have always shared in relationships? Yeah?

636
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: I think so. And kind of going back to the

637
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: therapy talk, which like there's so many layers and um, well,

638
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we're lucky to live in an age

639
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: where we have a ton of resources and there's actually

640
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, a ton of like research and education out

641
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: there to help people and what they've gone through and stuff.

642
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: So I but I just like, just I don't want

643
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: to act like I know everything whatever. This is like

644
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: very specific to me, but therapy kind of teaches you

645
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: a lot about why you are the way you are,

646
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: and knowing that there's reasoning and where it came from

647
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: is huge for processing and growing and learning. So kind

648
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: of initially going to therapy as like I know something's off,

649
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, like the way that I interact in my

650
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: romantic relationships even friendships at times two I kind of

651
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: have a hard time fully trusting. But therapy was able

652
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: to give me some insight and educate me on because

653
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: growing up I kind of go into this on the

654
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: show my mom and I kind of had an atypical relationship.

655
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: My parents were pretty young having us. My parents divorced early,

656
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: and my dad was active duty, so he wasn't always

657
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: around in the military, and so my mom was working

658
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: two jobs. Kind of she did the best she could, basically,

659
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: but I had to learn how to be my own

660
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: parent at a young age. So there's a lot of

661
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: like self predetection and self preservation in that moving forward

662
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: as a child. So I think that has kind of

663
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: led me to be, like, I can give. I feel

664
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: comfortable giving because that's less scary to me than receiving

665
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: something that may or may not be true or that

666
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: maybe could be taken away later, or what does receiving

667
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: love actually mean? Because when I was younger, it was

668
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: a little muddled. So that had kind of helped me,

669
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, move forward and share those things with Clayton

670
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: kind of from a more objective standpoint. I do get emotional,

671
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: of course, but I'm kind of learning how to process

672
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: things and take it more objectively instead of emotionally. So

673
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: I think that and it has in common in my

674
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: prior relationships, but I honestly didn't know that much about

675
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: it until recently. And yeah, I don't want to speak

676
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: for you because everyone's situation is so vastly different. But

677
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, I can speak from my personal experience. You know,

678
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: if you're more of a nurture, it's sometimes weird when

679
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: that comes back to you. You don't quite know how

680
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: to process and handle it. But you mentioned just putting

681
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: in so much time and work to get to this

682
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: place that you are now, which is an incredible place

683
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: to be. And of course there's always going to be

684
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: growth that can happens in life. But do you have

685
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: any advice for people out there who might be struggling

686
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: with a similar situation. Oh gosh, that is really nice

687
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: that you think I could ever give advice. I honestly

688
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: try and always steer clear. But I think for me,

689
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: it's just like one knowing like you're not alone. I

690
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: know it sounds so cliche, but going to therapy I

691
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 1: think really helps open that door. That's like we've kind

692
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: of and and also every experience is different and each

693
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: person has a different amount of resilience that you're able

694
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: to kind of execute towards these situations. So even on

695
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: the same thing that could happen to me, maybe it

696
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: could happen to someone else, but they have a completely

697
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 1: different response. And that's okay. Kind of validating your own

698
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: experience and knowing that it is okay and you that

699
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: you feel these way this way, and like you can

700
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: work towards it. I think just kind of having the

701
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: attitude and encourage to kind of figure it out and

702
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: learn that it's not a bad thing, it's nothing to

703
00:37:52,960 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: be ashamed of, and like appreciatively, Yeah, I love that. Well.

704
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: I think that it was amazing that we got to

705
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: see so many more sides of you in this episode.

706
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: We've seen that fun, goofy, playful side, but there's I

707
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: think you actually said this a couple episodes ago, You're like,

708
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm an onion, I have layers, and I feel like

709
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: we've really gotten to see that kind of unfold. So

710
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: it was a really beautiful episode to kind of have

711
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: you share your story. But it wasn't all you know,

712
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: it was playful and then it got serious and then

713
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: we did have some really wonderful romantic moments. We did

714
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: see you tell Clayton that you were falling for him.

715
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: How did that feel that? I mean, it feels like

716
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: so good. I think looking back on this episode and

717
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: my time there, it really truly felt like all the

718
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: good things that are special about the beginning of relationship.

719
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you have butterflies, just kind of emotions are crazy,

720
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: like probably hormones. I mean, all this wild is happening

721
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: like in time that makes you feel so light and

722
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: it's fun, you know, kind of being in a new

723
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: relationship and having these feelings so as much. And I'm like,

724
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: I my love language is definitely not where of affirmation.

725
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: I'm much I can like spend quality time and I'm

726
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: pretty like physically affectionate, but I've never been good with

727
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: my words, so actually verbalizing it was scary, but also

728
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: it felt like so good, you know, just to be

729
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: able to share this with somebody and kind of see

730
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: that the process can work. I think initially I came

731
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: in as a skeptic, which I feel like we kind

732
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: of all should have, making like a huge leap of

733
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: faith in a scenario environment like this. I need to

734
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 1: maintain kind of a semblance of myself. So that's also

735
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: a reason I think why I wasn't comfortable kind of

736
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: opening up all the way at first, because I was

737
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: still testing the water someone I was actually going on here,

738
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: you know. But I think after that date with him,

739
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: I felt really confident, and I was like, oh wow,

740
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: like you know, we're doing it. I have feelings. It

741
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: seems like, you know, he was able to reciprocate them

742
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: as well. So it really just felt so good and

743
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: it felt so real, which I think is important. I

744
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: love that you mentioned this process actually works because you

745
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: will soon find out. That's one of the main questions

746
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: that anyone that's a fan of the show will ask you,

747
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: like does it actually work? Is it real? And so

748
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean Serena can speak for her for herself, she's

749
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: a ring to prove it is real. But no, I

750
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: what I want to say to that question, just before

751
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: you ask Yoursbeca is real to me is like someone's experience,

752
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: Like my experience was real, Like whether like yes, it's

753
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: an edited TV show, but like my day to day

754
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: experience and like what I live on a to day

755
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: that's real, Like everything experience is real. So it's just

756
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: always a funny question to me when people are like,

757
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: what is the show real? It's like, well, my experience

758
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: was real, and it works for people because people are married,

759
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: people are in babies, people are in relationships. So see, yeah,

760
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: it's it's like, how do you describe what is real

761
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: to someone or not. I want to do this because

762
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: I feel like, especially after this week, Clayton is gonna

763
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: get a lot of backlash just for keeping Channey around

764
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 1: for all of the drama that is still penetrating throughout

765
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: the I want to say the house, but now the

766
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: hotel that you're in. So what are Let's build him

767
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: up a bit. What are the top three qualities or

768
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: things that you know that you love about Clayton or

769
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: that makes you feel special anything, Let's just hype him up. Yeah.

770
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: I love that, Yeah totally, which I also think it's

771
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: important to know. I mean, watching back and seeing Shiney's interviews,

772
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: we're shocked about like what was said and actually what

773
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: her kind of motives and all tier your motives were.

774
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: So I think it's it's new for everyone almost to

775
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: an extent, and especially Clayton. I mean, he was kind

776
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: of um, I know, we kind of tried to give

777
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: him some insight and stuff, but also there was a

778
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: sense of like, well, I don't want to meddle too

779
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: much because I actually don't know truly what's going on,

780
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: and like this is about finding love, so like who knows,

781
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, maybe like their connection is actually over the moon,

782
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: and like there was like lots of confusion. So I

783
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: do wish people would have a little more grace, not

784
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: saying that any of Sene's actions are like right, but

785
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: I think he's he is He's just super genuine, Like

786
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: he is just a really good person. I think in

787
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: that strives or is that the word no, no, no,

788
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that is like what he ultimately

789
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: just like wants to do, you know, like wants to

790
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: navigate like and make good decisions as as a good person.

791
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: And I think he really exudes that in in person

792
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: when you're with him, he always kind of just left

793
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: a huge companying space for whoever he was speaking with.

794
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: He always made you feel like you're the only girl

795
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: in the room. Like nothing was like dumb or no

796
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: conversation was off topic. He was down to like talk

797
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: about anything, which I think is great and like he

798
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: does he has a great sense of humor, Like he's

799
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: always down to have fun. He's just a really fun

800
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: person to be around. But I think you can also

801
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: like trust him. You know, he would never on purpose

802
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: hurt anyone's feelings, Like there's just not a malicious bone

803
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: in his body. So I think that's three. I love that. Yeah,

804
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: that's good. I think we need to do that more often,

805
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: especially whether it's with the lead or any contestant, just

806
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: because this world is crazy. You get love, you get hate,

807
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: and it's just good to remember like he was chosen

808
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: as the lead for a reason, and we got to

809
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: keep that at the forefront. One thing that I want

810
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: to ask you about, and kind of going back to

811
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: what you had just said about this is Clayton's and

812
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: everyone's first time really seen how Shane was behind the

813
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: scenes in her itms and in her interviews. You had

814
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: some sort of relationship with her. You obviously lived with

815
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: her for weeks. What is that like now when you're

816
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: at home watching these episodes and hearing her call you

817
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: all bitches? And I hate that word. I hate that

818
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: I keep saying it too, But I'm just using what

819
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: she's saying like she uses these dragatory terms towards all

820
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: of you women. She just has a lot of nasty

821
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: things to say. So how do you feel after living

822
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: with her and hearing those things that she's saying? For me?

823
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: I feel honestly tricked. I think a lot of us

824
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: really tried to give her a benefit of the doubt

825
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: time after time again, because in our minds it's like, well,

826
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: maybe you know, there has to be a reason why

827
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: she's sticking around. We were privy to a lot of

828
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: her conversations, you know, with Elizabeth, but you know, knowing

829
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: nobody should weaponize mental health against someone, and at times

830
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: it seems like shene would kind of come back from

831
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: that be friendly to us. In the house, she was

832
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: kind of hinting that maybe there's like change on the horizon.

833
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: So I think each new place we went, we were like, Okay,

834
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: this is you know, this is when she's going to

835
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: figure it out and be nice to us, or like,

836
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, kind of always give her space and a

837
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: chance for redemption. But then watching her interviews, knowing that

838
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: she was on purpose manipulating the situation and maybe telling

839
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: us one thing and completely thinking another. When we know

840
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: this is going to be aired on national television, people

841
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: will see the full story because you can't hide it.

842
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: So I guess, like the confidence and security she had

843
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: being a complete different way to the women versus Clayton,

844
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: I just felt like the tricked you know, I'm like, damn,

845
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: I feel dumb for trying to stick up for your ass,

846
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, But like I think that's being in that

847
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: situation when you're in such a bubble, and that's how

848
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: good the women are in the house. We didn't want

849
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: to have this drama. We didn't want to like have

850
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: these strong negative feelings towards someone because I think the

851
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: hardest part for me being there and watching back was

852
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: she was taking time away from other phenomenal women who

853
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: also deserve a chance at finding love. But because there

854
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: was so much drama and so much attention given to that,

855
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: I mean, women went under the radar, maybe didn't have

856
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: like as big of a chance as they had to

857
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: to connect with Clayton because this was clouding the whole picture. Yeah,

858
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: And I mean, at the end of the day, you

859
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: guys constantly giving her a chance and trying to see

860
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: the best in her speaks to your character, and her

861
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: interviews speak to her characters. And that's all I'm gonna

862
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: say about that. But I felt so bad for you,

863
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: Gabby when the end of the episode hit and it

864
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: was you and Genevieve and say just stuck in this

865
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: us together what I know, said, like, well, it was

866
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: so crazy. Actually, that whole week was like a whirlwind

867
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: because you know, we got there and I got the

868
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: we like will ever see the place? Read the day card?

869
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: And I'm the first date of the week. So I'm like,

870
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: holy shit, kind of on a different wavelength than that,

871
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: like thinking about myself and like do I get to change?

872
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: I don't like my outfit? And then I was thinking

873
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: about that I would be the same Oh my god, yeah,

874
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: and they're like no, and I was like but um,

875
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: But then the whole week kind of got so crazy.

876
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: I came home kind of late, coming back from the

877
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: one on one. I was in a completely different world,

878
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: you know. I was like, oh, I'm in love and like,

879
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: but there was like kind of attention in the house.

880
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: I was like, what is going on here? And the

881
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: next day, I mean, when was the last two on one? Like, oh,

882
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: kind of a long time ago. Rights doesn't had a

883
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: two on one? Oh it didn't Michelle's have one? Uh no,

884
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: I don't think Michelle's had one. Okay, but Michelle would

885
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: send people home like literally within like four minutes of

886
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: the drama starting and they had a chance the two one.

887
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: I know she's a real one for that. Um, but yeah,

888
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking about that like that it would

889
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: maybe happen, you know, And then the next day the

890
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: girls like who were going on the other date, We're

891
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: all dressed up and then me, jenneteven Cheney are still

892
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: in our sweats and I was like, oh no, something

893
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: weird is happening here. And then we, you know, spent

894
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: like the whole week basically together kind of in the

895
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: house while the other girls were on their dates. So

896
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: it was hard at that point. Honestly, um Sene did

897
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: just really keep her distance from everyone. So I just

898
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: felt bad for my friend Genevieve. I'm like, God, I'm

899
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: so sorry. You know, you have to go through all

900
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: this and you're subject to this basically because she became

901
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: a target because she was sticking up for Elizabeth. Like

902
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: that's you know, well, that's something I want to ask about,

903
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: because I mean, before you hopped on, Serena and I

904
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: did a quick little recap and we obviously talked about

905
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: all of the Schnee drama, and that's I think everyone's

906
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: focused right now, especially with the two on one is Cheney.

907
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: But poor Genevieve is here. She seems very confused of

908
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: like why she's there when I obviously they kind of

909
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: pieced together from the week before, Like you just said,

910
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: her sticking up for Elizabeth, but she, honestly, I was like,

911
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: none of these women belong on the two on one.

912
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: Was say, at this point, it just seems weird and

913
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: it's like he just had to pick somebody in. Poor

914
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: Genevieve was, you know, the victim of this. But how

915
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: was she feeling? Because from what we saw, Sane seemed

916
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: confident she had a plan. She said that she had

917
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: rehearsed her script of what she wanted to Scott. She

918
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: said that, yeah, She's like, I wrote down what I

919
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: want to say practice, I rehearsed it in the mirror

920
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: and then so and then on the whole other end

921
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: of the spectrum is Genevieve being like, I don't quite

922
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: know why I'm here. This is weird. What am I

923
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: supposed to do? So and it sounds like you were

924
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: closer with Genevieve, So how was she like where was

925
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: her mindset going into that day? I think Genevieve was

926
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: really levelheaded about everything, and like, honestly, good for her,

927
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: because I was nervous. I'm like, I don't know what's

928
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: going on here. You'll only see you don't see both

929
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: sides of things. So when we were like who's gonna

930
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: come home? I wasn't going to be surprised if gene

931
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: came home. I mean she made it this far. Of

932
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: course I would be upset, but I was truly terrified

933
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: on what was going to happen. But Genevieve was honestly

934
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: so good about it. I think she had such a

935
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: good attitude going in. You know, she's not as loud

936
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: as Jenney, but but kind of could almost see like

937
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: the four trees from the forest as I was saying whatever,

938
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: she could see clearly, AND's like good on her because

939
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: I would be freaking out, and I think Genevieve was

940
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: just like, look, I'm gonna be myself. I'm gonna tell

941
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: the truth and that it's like all I can do,

942
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: which is true, like you can only tell your side

943
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: of things. And then ultimately it was up to Clayton.

944
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: So but we all really felt for her. Like the

945
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: mood in the house was so somber, it's just getting

946
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: out of control. We're seeing a lot of negativity and yeah,

947
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: but I mean I'm curious. I mean I'm hopeful I'll

948
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: say that that next week the two on one ends

949
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: the way that we would all like to see. Then,

950
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: but we've got one more question for you, Gabby, and

951
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: then we're gonna play a fun, bastel heavy hour game

952
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: with you. If you could describe the rest of Clayton's

953
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: season without spoiling too much, in only three words, what

954
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: would they be? Twist in urns. Oh god, we've never

955
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: gotten somebody a phrase before, always twists and turns. That's amazing. Yeahabby,

956
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: you are a clever, clever woman. I love that. Yeah

957
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: it usually people are like, um, journey or love. I

958
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: love the twist and journey I mean too. But this

959
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: whole entire season so far has been that, so I

960
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: have I can imagine it keeping up. Um, we're going

961
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: to get into the game. But I just have to

962
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: ask this because we've talked about see in this drama

963
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: for song hes she because I know there's always a

964
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: group chat with all of the girls and the guys

965
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: too on each season. Has she apologized at this point

966
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: to anyone for anything? Not that I'm aware? No? Okay,

967
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: all right, well, women Tell All was coming up in

968
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: in a few weeks, so that will be very interesting. Yea.

969
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: Until then, Miss Gabby, let's get in to our game.

970
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: We play this with all of our guests, so it's

971
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: basically rapid fire bachelor superlatives. So we're going to give

972
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: you most likely to dot dot dot, and then you

973
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: just have to give us the woman in Clayton's group

974
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: of women who it would apply to. All right, Gabby,

975
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: who is most likely to get the party started? Um,

976
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: I would say Marlena? Okay, yes, I think And let

977
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: me just say, you can say yourself for somebody these two? Okay, Okay,

978
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: who is most likely to get the ladies laughing? Oh well,

979
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to say myself, but so many other

980
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: people have said it, so yourself, I will say. Marlena

981
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: is hilarious too. So everyone's honestly so funny. We would

982
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: just like laugh our ass off all the time. But

983
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: I'll say it me. Okay, I love it. Okay. Who

984
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: is the best cook? Kate? Oh my god, she would

985
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: always like whip something up for us. Yeah. I liked

986
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: she was gone to way too soon, totally agree. Who's

987
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: the first person to wake up in the morning. Uh,

988
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know because it definitely wasn't me, honestly,

989
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: probably Molina, Like, yeah, yeah, I heard she was a

990
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: workout beast. Okay, most likely to be named Miss Congeniality. Um, Susie.

991
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: That's a common one too. Best smile in the house,

992
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Threne has a great smile. She smiles. Yeah,

993
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: lots of good teeth in the scriptful woman? Is that a?

994
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: Is that a weird way? They're all nice and shiny

995
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: white strips. Oh yeah, we're gonna read this as an

996
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: add next week. Serena probably absolutely all right. Best dressed, Uh,

997
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: let's see best dress. I want to say Rachel has

998
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: a really good style. I feel she said some really

999
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: good looks. I feel like, oh yeah, I mean, honestly,

1000
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: all the girls we were all switching clothes like left diner. Right.

1001
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I have to ask you this. Did you

1002
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: wear um Eliza's dress? Oh yeah this week? Okay, because

1003
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: I was looking at it and I was like, oh,

1004
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: I really liked that open. I was like, I think

1005
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: Eliza was an episode two. I know it wasn't the no,

1006
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: it was the nude one that was like the one

1007
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: strap it was she didn't get the one on one. Um.

1008
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: But I only picked up on it because A I

1009
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: do the fashion recaps and be we used to do

1010
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 1: that all the time on our season too. Maggie actually

1011
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: got sent home in Rachel's dress on my season and

1012
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: they had to like get it and bring it back

1013
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: to her. Oh my god, that was the best part.

1014
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: It's just it's like a rotating closet each week, and

1015
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: for the most part, everyone's willing to share it. So

1016
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: nice because I need all the help I can get. Okay,

1017
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: biggest gossip, Um, oh well, I mean Cassidy. I feel

1018
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: that's like going to too far back, but yeah, okay.

1019
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: Most likely to steal Clayton first at a cocktail party, Um,

1020
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: I mean Cassidy. Yeah god, yeah yeah. Who was the

1021
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: first to go to bed? Um, Susie is always sleeping,

1022
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: so probably her. I don't blame her. Yeah yeah, all right?

1023
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: Who is the messiest? Oh, you guys are asking hard

1024
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: ones kind of Um. I honestly, I would probably say me,

1025
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, you'd I'd like, go into a new

1026
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: hotel that looks like I'd been there for years, It

1027
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: doesn't automatically like throw up everywhere. Ye. Who is most

1028
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: likely to be pound lunge and by the pool? Oh? Um? Me?

1029
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: I did ask right away if there was a cap

1030
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: on how much time we can spend in the pool.

1031
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: I think somebody said someone didn't say yeah, yeah, all right.

1032
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: And last, but not least, who is most likely to

1033
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: be a bridesmaid in your wedding? Oh? Oh my god,

1034
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,959
Speaker 1: that's so sweet. Can I name everybody? You cannot one name?

1035
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: Give us two or three? Yeah? Okay, okay? Um I

1036
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: would say Susie, Marina and Um, I know it's so hard.

1037
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I don't want to piss anyone up. Hunter,

1038
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: I Molina, I just keep going. I really like Hunter Hunter.

1039
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: Did you say Hunt? I think she's so underrated If

1040
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: she doesn't even I want her. I want her in

1041
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: Paradise and I want to see more of her. Oh,

1042
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: I agree, that's great. Let me ask you this at

1043
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: your future wedding? Will you serve shrimp cocktail? Yes? Or no? Okay,

1044
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: you're asking a wrong girl because I love shrimp cocktail.

1045
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: I do too, but I feel like it's getting tainted

1046
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: for me. Honestly, I can't say the word shrimp in

1047
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: my head. I'm like, what does it even mean anymore?

1048
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: It's completely lost its meeting as a shellfish. The amount

1049
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: of DMS that I've gotten from people just sending me

1050
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: like a picture of a shrimp, or like grocery shopping

1051
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: and seeing the box of shrimp or the bag of shrimp.

1052
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm like you, guys, I'm not even on this season.

1053
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 1: Don't send it to me. I know everyone's really run

1054
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: in with it. Okay, Well you know that if anyone's

1055
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: on paradise from this season, that's going to be like

1056
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: their intro is them eating shrimper. Somebody was shrimp. Okay, yeah, me,

1057
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: before we let you go, we're all going to go

1058
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: around and share our rose and thorn. So basically what

1059
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: we thought was the best moment, I mean, for Serena

1060
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: and I will do the best and our least favorite

1061
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: moment of the week. But you can do so far

1062
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: this entire season if you want, since you lived it.

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Speaker 1: So to kick it off, I'm gonna say my rose

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00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: of the week. Oh God, can I give two? Of course? Okay,

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00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: I have to give a shout out to my girl, Marleina.

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Speaker 1: Her roast was impeccable, The delivery was on point, like

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00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: everything about it was so good. We didn't talk about

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00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: it in the recap, and I should have. Yeah, we

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00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: did not talk about the roast enough. That was a

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00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: great day. I was so much about watching that. I

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00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: was so pissed I wasn't on it. Obviously stoked. I

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00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: was on the one on one, but then when they

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00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: read the group day card, I wasn't in there and

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00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: they were like, we think we're going on a rose

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00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: and I subedit, But Harlena, I'm so bis Marlene. We

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00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: were roommates in Toronto and she came home from the

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00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: Rose that like three am, and she like pulled out

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00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: her notebook and she was like, you want to hear

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00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, I hear it all. She did

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00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: so good and she opened to the roast too, which

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01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: really set the bar high. I was like, shit, they

1082
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: should have saved her for last because she was so good.

1083
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: But that was one of my roses. My second rose

1084
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: was our favorite actress. Meryl Streep was dropped in the

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01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: episode again because I mean she was compared to See

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01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: which I will not say she is that could have

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01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: an actress, but she's okay. But I just love that

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01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: for some reason, vaterination, you know, Meryl Streep is now

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01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: part of us even yet want to be I mentioned

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01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: Meryl Streep and I totally and she just keeps coming

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01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: back um, My Meryl fans out here, Yeah, Yeah. My

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01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: thorn of the week is um probably the fact for

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01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: the two on one that those girls looked freezing, and

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01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: I would have been miserable if I was on that

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01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: date next to the cold assholes. I've been there and

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01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: I can confirm it was definitely freezing because in the summer,

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01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: it's cold, freezing water. Okay, my rose is gonna have

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01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: to be seeing my city on the screen for the episode.

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01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: It was so fun for me to watch you guys

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01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: runner in Toronto. And I'm also gonna say I felt

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01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: like this was the most relaxed we've seen Clayton yet,

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01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: just in his connections with the women on the dates.

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01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: I think he's really kind of like those nerves maybe

1104
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: have kind of settled down, and I like seeing that

1105
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: side of him. And then my thorn is gonna be

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01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: Chaney's fake tears. I felt like they were fake when

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01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: I was watching them. She confirmed it in her interview

1108
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: and to me, it is just such a cheap move

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01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: and I did not enjoy it. Yeah, I remember as

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01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: it was happening, I was like, oo made her do this?

1111
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: Because this was not her idea. At the eye drops right,

1112
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: she did it, but she still did it. She could

1113
01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: have said, yeah, all right, Gabby, give us your m

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01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: I think my Rose is definitely just my one on one.

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01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: I think it gave me a chance to really open

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01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: up and kind of show other sides of me, which

1117
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,959
Speaker 1: I was really excited to do and kind of looking

1118
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: for the opportunity. And I think it is like a

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01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: jumping off point for Clayton and eyed relationship. And I

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01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: agree Serena like he also we were also noticing how

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01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: like more relaxed and kind of comfortable in the role

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01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: he started to become. So I think that was really

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01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: fun to see. And then my thorn will always be

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01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: just watching my friends. Like some of my friends go

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01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: home every week each Rose ceremony, I'm like sobbing because

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01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: I do. I hold my girlfriends and my friendships so tight.

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01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: So it was just so emotional, kind of like a

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01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: little piece of you leaves, you know, like your comfort

1129
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: and safety net. So that that was always my thorn.

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01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: I have to ask you this before we let you go.

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01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: Who was a better kisser, Clinton or that cute little dog.

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01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to say the pillow like I said it

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01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: on the pillow. Um, I'll have to give it to

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01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: clay Yeah, yeah, yeah. My favorite part was when you

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01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: were petting. You were laying on the ground petting the dog,

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01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: and then Claint came up and started petting the dog's

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01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: head and then started petting your head. I'm like, I know,

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01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, not the time, like I'm

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01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: busy one okay, yeah, Oh Gabby. It has been such

1140
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: a pleasure having you. You are one of our favorites.

1141
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: We were so excited that we could finally get you

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01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: this week, especially after your mom. You went to one

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01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: on one. So thank you for joining Happy Hour and

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01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: we hope to see so much more of you. Oh yes,

1145
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: thank you for coming. Oh sorry meeting you guys. Thank you.

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01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: I really like Gabby. I knew, I knew I was

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01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: gonna like her before she came on. But the fact

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01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 1: that she loves dogs just as much as me, Anne

1149
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: doesn't like sports and it's not athletic, I'm like, she

1150
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: is a woman after my own. He's your soul, she

1151
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: truly is. And it doesn't work out with Clayton. It

1152
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: doesn't work out what talk were fellas. It's me and Gabby. No.

1153
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: I really liked her too, I really enjoyed our interview

1154
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: with her. She just I feel like what you see

1155
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: is what you get with her. Like everything we've seen

1156
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: of her on the show, that energy just came right

1157
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: through on this podcast as well. And yeah, she's just

1158
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: she's a very beautiful, confident woman. I really loved having her.

1159
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah back to I think you had mentioned this earlier,

1160
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: but her self awareness is it's so good and so

1161
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: refreshing to see, especially on this show, on this show,

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01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,479
Speaker 1: and so I'm glad we were able to have her.

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01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: She's welcome back anytime. I don't know how far she

1164
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: makes it. I don't know if we'll see her at

1165
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: Woman Tell All, if if we'll see her on the finale,

1166
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: who knows. But all I know is I want to

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01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: see more of that one. So Serena, thank you for

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01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: doing this again with me this week. A huge thank

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01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: you to Gabby for being here. But the biggest thank

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01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: you goes up to all of our batch are happy,

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01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: our listeners, because we could not do this without you

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01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: each and every week. And I've said it before many

1173
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: a time, but I'm going to say it again as

1174
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: a reminder. We are still casting for both The Boucher

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01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: and boucher atte. So if you know of somebody great

1176
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: that you think should be on the show, or if

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01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: you even just wanted to name nominate yourself, you can

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01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: head to batcheernation dot com slash apply. Also, be sure

1179
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: to hit us up on social. You can follow us

1180
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,439
Speaker 1: at Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram and from there you'll

1181
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: find everything you need to know to follow us on

1182
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,840
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01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,440
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1184
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,760
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01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,760
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