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Speaker 1: Who do you who?

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Speaker 2: This is a quick announcement to say that we Sam

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Speaker 2: Taggart and George Severs are going on a stand up tour.

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Speaker 2: That's right, a stand up tour, no podcasting allowed this

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Speaker 2: summer and fall.

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Speaker 1: It's called Sam and George stand Up Tour. It rhymes

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Speaker 1: kind of, and we're going to Chicago, Philly, DC, Boston, Toronto,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: And maybe more locations TBD TV. Let's just say we're

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Speaker 2: looking into it. And sometimes that has worked for us

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Speaker 2: in the past, and sometimes it hasn't.

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Speaker 1: But folks come see us split an hour stand up

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Speaker 1: and we're so excited to see you.

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Speaker 2: We're so excited. And you can get tickets at linktree

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Speaker 2: dot com slash stradio Lab. That's linktree dot com, slash

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Speaker 2: stradio Lab.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the app podcast starts now, what's up everyone? You

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Speaker 1: are listening to Stradia Lab by Coastally mind you.

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Speaker 2: I love how every time when we introduced the episode,

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Speaker 2: the first thing you say is where we are. I've

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Speaker 2: decided you either say by coastally or if I've.

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Speaker 1: Decided saying that is important so that people understand emotionally

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Speaker 1: where we're.

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Speaker 2: At no I completely agree, and I want to just

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Speaker 2: specify one more thing, which is currently Sam's on a

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Speaker 2: big screen and the vibe is like in the Bitch

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Speaker 2: I'm Madonna video where despite the fact that Madonna was

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Speaker 2: able to get so many celebs in one room for

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Speaker 2: the video, the one selib she couldn't actually get to

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Speaker 2: show up was the featured artist, Nicki Minaj. So when

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Speaker 2: it's time for Nicki Minaj's verse, Madonna has to hold

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Speaker 2: a flat screen television while dancing.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine being Nicki Minaj and being like, ugh,

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Speaker 1: Madonna's calling again. She wants me to do this thing

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Speaker 1: like and you just have to be like, well, I

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Speaker 1: can't make her mad at me, but I really don't

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Speaker 1: want to go.

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Speaker 2: There is something about that song, yeah, that is really

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Speaker 2: indescribable in that it is both incredibly important and a

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Speaker 2: list like it's important because it is a Sophie producer

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Speaker 2: of course, for example, like that is crazy. It is

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Speaker 2: a Sophie produced Madonna song. It features every possible celebrity,

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Speaker 2: including literally Beyonce. But then on the other hand, there

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Speaker 2: is something so completely flop and dalist about it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's one of those songs that is so sort

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Speaker 1: of wild and left turn and like both like you know,

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Speaker 1: Sophie produced, but also so empty where you're like that

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Speaker 1: song should have inspired conspiracy theories that Madonna had died.

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Speaker 1: I'm I think it's actually a failing on the LGBTQ

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Speaker 1: plus community that there is not a conspiracy theory that

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Speaker 1: that is not Madonna. She died before that and that

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Speaker 1: was her clone.

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Speaker 3: I know, you know what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's like there's too many things both positive and negative

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Speaker 2: going on on that it actually like immediately prevents you

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Speaker 2: from having a coherent thought about it. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 2: sort of think it is similar to our concept of

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Speaker 2: the sixty percent Rotten Tomatoes movie, like it transcends good

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Speaker 2: or bad. It's like an onslaught of an onslaught of

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Speaker 2: visuals and differing aesthetics. And even by the way, the

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Speaker 2: title Bitch I'm Madonna was so late for its time,

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Speaker 2: the idea that it is like badass to say bitch

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Speaker 2: I'm Madonna, that.

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Speaker 1: Is something that is from two thousand, well, because it

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Speaker 1: was well after It's Britney bitch right exactly.

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Speaker 3: It makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: And also she wasn't like having some big comeback or

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Speaker 2: like clapping back at the haters. No, everyone was like yeah,

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Speaker 1: Everybody loves you.

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Speaker 2: Actually yeah, and then she's like, oh, I'll shout that, ah,

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Speaker 1: Well, it is complicated when you have a generally defensive

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Speaker 2: And that is actually why Jamila Jamil is my dream

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Speaker 1: As someone who is defensive, you feel, yes, don't you think?

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Speaker 1: I mean, but I think she's kind of earned it.

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Speaker 1: Like she's just traumatized from being on the internet.

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Speaker 2: but you are also the one that's like, good morning,

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Speaker 2: can someone please cyber bully me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well that's not thing. She's not like born defensive.

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Speaker 1: She's born like feeling like people should. She has like

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: She also she also does this thing where she's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so we're not allowed to be outspoken anymore, and it's

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Speaker 2: like right. So the issue with being outspoken is that

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Speaker 2: by definition, you are inviting criticism. That's the entire thing.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't want to be outspoken, you're not

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Speaker 3: No, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Do you consider yourself outspoken?

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Speaker 2: This is literally the defining question of my life and

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Speaker 2: of our and of our careers. I would say you

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Speaker 2: and yeah, because I think that you and I, despite

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Speaker 2: want to be outspoken. And I'm not talking about politically,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking more generally. We cannot decide what our relationship

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent agree? I can't even decide what my

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Speaker 1: relationship is to the spotlight as a concept. You know,

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Speaker 1: there was a point when I was like, of course

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Speaker 1: I've been very much like well, like, don't look at

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Speaker 2: Also, we were just saying, now, we were in a

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Speaker 2: and that's not good for our career. No, our whole

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Speaker 2: thing is being well adjusted, and it's one of us.

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Speaker 2: One of us needs to get divorced in the next

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Speaker 2: five I think. Otherwise, I think it's in the cards.

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Speaker 3: I really do know.

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Speaker 2: Something needs to happen. I don't know. I'm a little

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Speaker 2: to go back to Madonna and then we will bring

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Speaker 2: in our guests? Yeah, how do we how do we

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Speaker 2: channel being well adjusted into a ray of light rather

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can be too well adjusted. We

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Speaker 1: look how perfect our family is, and then that people

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Speaker 1: think maybe we can just lean into being well adjusted

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Speaker 1: publicist to run with that, get a spread in People

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Speaker 1: magazine about like finally a comedian that's well as.

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Speaker 2: And I'm picturing a profile. Get this the headline, Sam

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Speaker 2: and George are doing just fine.

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Speaker 1: That feels so good. I can hear, I can see it.

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Speaker 1: I can see the photos.

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Speaker 2: In our Yes, it's us in our living room, mid

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Speaker 2: century modern, and we have our you know, golden lab

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Speaker 2: and one of us is laughing and one of us

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Speaker 2: is putting tea in a little.

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Speaker 1: Oh, and we're leaning hard. We're leaning on like couches

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Speaker 1: and chairs. Yes, oh, that's gonna be good.

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Speaker 2: And then there's a really bitchy gay guys on Twitter

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Speaker 1: Tell a gig guy to sit and they do this. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's really good. I think there's a future for us. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm all in. And our Neil Patrick Harris

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Speaker 1: that's his name, Yeah, that's his name.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: You know when a name is so like down the

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Speaker 2: line basic that you're like, that can't be real.

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Speaker 1: Damn, I can't believe you're disrespecting NPA.

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Speaker 2: Literally, Like I was like, that can't be his real name.

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Speaker 1: But that happened to me yesterday. We were talking about

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Speaker 1: Pedro Pascal, and I was like, wait, did I just

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Speaker 1: say his name completely wrong? Like, I was like, that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I always want to say Pablo Pascal.

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Speaker 3: Oh, sure, that's night soon he should consider checking.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Should we bring in our guests, Let's

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Speaker 1: do it, do the honor since you're in the room.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've been looking at her this whole time,

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Speaker 2: but trying not to make eye contact because she was

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Speaker 2: not allowed to speak. But honestly, this is this is

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Speaker 2: one of the main gals in New York City. Please

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Speaker 2: give a warm round of applasta Tessa Belle.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, I'm so happy. That was so hard to

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Speaker 3: not talk.

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Speaker 2: You or I just want to say you're doing such

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Speaker 2: a good job of laughing, because sometimes guests don't laugh

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Speaker 3: No, I'm a lifelong listener and fan. You are you

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Speaker 3: are five years old? You actually are?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm actually late for my class.

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Speaker 3: I'm still hones. I was like taking a set.

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Speaker 4: Wait, wait, you guys said, oh can I say gay

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Speaker 4: guys will.

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Speaker 3: Will literally lean before going to therapy. Woa wow, Tessa.

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Speaker 2: We actually have to pay Tessa to lead the charge

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Speaker 2: to Bullia so that we can develop backlash and then

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Speaker 2: have a reputation era totally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a bad boy era.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's really awkward, Turtle to have to watch you guys

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Speaker 4: talk and not say anything.

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Speaker 2: Well duh, I mean, okay, say something interesting talent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is difficult. I've been on for two minutes

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Speaker 3: and literally choke up.

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Speaker 2: No, what is your relationship to online backlas? Not not

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Speaker 2: not backlash against you? What is your relationship as an

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Speaker 2: internet user to have you ever participated in an onslaught?

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Speaker 3: Have you ever I receive hatefulness?

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Speaker 2: We know?

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Speaker 1: Oh I don't know, tell me, tell.

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Speaker 3: Me, like five seconds ago, you're like, Jamila's for it.

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Speaker 2: No, you receive, you receive backlash.

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Speaker 4: Well, I just sympathize because one time I went viral

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Speaker 4: one single time on Earth. And now for celebrities, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: it's actually really hard to be a celebrity, and like

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Speaker 4: they can hear you, like Tayler sid can hear you,

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Speaker 4: y'all she's listening.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's true you and you got backlash

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Speaker 2: because you are kind of beautiful and have long hair.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 4: Definitely, It's like I was a woman and that was

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Speaker 3: Lesson learned.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but they're making really interesting points in the content.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they always do.

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Speaker 3: I never delete because I believe in a free press.

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Speaker 4: Sam, do care about me? Well, we don't get to

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Speaker 4: No, I'm the only person who's not Nepo, and so

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Speaker 2: Well, you're kind of like the Him sisters in that way.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for Well, I'm trying to spread the rumor

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Speaker 4: I think it's like tack. It's like tetting, like snapchat sunglasses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're also but you're also seeing someone like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you're seeing my brother.

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Speaker 4: I think that it's like the like I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: missed my mom, I missed my dog, and I would

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Speaker 3: Do you not like New York? I love it? I

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Speaker 3: I'm bye'm bye Okay, it's pride and by.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever even been discribed my hot? I actually

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Speaker 4: When I was in college, I took a semester off

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Speaker 3: I went to improv five days a week. No, literally

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Speaker 1: No, that's huge.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say not to out you and

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Speaker 2: You literally get into an IV League university and you're saying,

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Speaker 3: Well, I got into ille because my mom bought a building.

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Speaker 4: I said that once and somebody was like, oh, thank

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Speaker 4: you for being honest. A lot of people would lie

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Speaker 2: You're like, I'm lying. I'm a him sister, I'm the

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Speaker 1: What's I find lying to be complicated? I'm feeling more

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Speaker 1: don't I don't want to done myself down. Of course,

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Speaker 1: So you're kidding, of course. But for example, George and

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Speaker 4: Thought that you guys have forgot to say happy Pride.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, What the fuck are you by? Or are

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Speaker 4: A lot of people ask that question, Yeah, we are

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Speaker 4: you guys going to fire Wait, you're not gonna answer.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me?

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Speaker 2: Are you by or are you not answer the question?

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Speaker 3: No? I am by, prove it.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, So if I kiss you, if I

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Speaker 2: Somebody exactly no, to answer your question, we are to

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Speaker 2: answer stereotype perpetuating question. We are not going to Fire

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Speaker 4: To me, it's like it's the macala and it's like

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Speaker 4: I'm linking and building on Fire Island.

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Speaker 2: But I'm going to Peetown. You're going to Peto's. So

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Speaker 2: here's the thing, what would you expect You would expect

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Speaker 2: me to go to Petown in the summer with Gega Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to Peetown in October with lesbians.

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Speaker 3: Deal with it. You contain multitudes.

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Speaker 2: Literally, you're fucking crazy, fucking crazy.

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Speaker 3: I want to go to Peatown.

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Speaker 2: No, Petown is actually the dream.

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Speaker 4: I love going to Fire Island because I'm like air

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Speaker 4: dropping my fucking spec scripts everywhere.

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Speaker 3: I'm chasing down Billy I can with a gun totally.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you go to Peitown, you can chase down

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Speaker 2: John Waters. You can chase down John Cameron Mitchell. You

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Speaker 2: can chase down Dina Martina.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't have as much.

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Speaker 2: Power in the end.

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Speaker 1: Rosi o' donald's up there all the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's who's who I find. I do prefer

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Speaker 1: But that's just because like there's something about there's too

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Speaker 2: And I say, I want not as much of an

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Speaker 3: Yes, I love that.

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Speaker 4: It's like the only place to get food is like

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Speaker 3: WU not be more on the No, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, but no, I'm choosing to have like sort of

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Speaker 1: but we have to be strong and we have to

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Speaker 2: But also that's what you have to do that the

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Speaker 4: Married, And I was worried when I saw you that

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Speaker 2: Canceled because we're both men and well just I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: this is what we're talking about. We're too well. We

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Speaker 2: we have to either again, literally, this is what we're

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Speaker 3: Oh I think you guys should I think you should

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Speaker 3: go straight? What do you mean like fully like like

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Speaker 3: Stradio Lab. You're like, what is like you invented the

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Speaker 3: I didn't invent it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I will say sometimes I'll see radio

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Speaker 1: Wait?

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Speaker 3: So okay, you're la forever or you're coming back. It's

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Speaker 1: No, there's something up, like I don't know what because

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Speaker 3: Wait, but Sam, the first you remember the first time

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do remember because we were on a show

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Speaker 4: So before my set, I was like, I think you're

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Speaker 1: Sure you didn't, I think if I remember correctly, I

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Speaker 3: And I was like okay, And.

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I will say this. Sam, you're

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Speaker 1: You're you're just revealing this to me now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like Tessa someone I see relatively often. We're friends, we

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of confused where I'm like, so, why did

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Speaker 2: Why did I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like absolutely, I'm like, why are you making the joker?

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Speaker 1: Because George is like, are you not hearing? You should?

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Speaker 1: We should be teaming up against George right now, because

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Speaker 1: what's happening is it's like, okay, you can. He's literally

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Speaker 1: like you're my friend and I'm like, okay, then you've

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Speaker 4: Didn't want till this is like so I'm being a

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Speaker 2: Well, I have this thing where for people that I've

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Speaker 2: a real like not nostalgia, I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I wish Sam we're here, Like I hate

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Speaker 3: No, that's so sweet, you guys.

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Speaker 2: I feel this way about Esther. I feel like because

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Speaker 3: You left his all okay, and that's not your fault,

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Speaker 3: but we always like leave a chair open. Yes, he's

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Speaker 3: just late, but he's coming you guys, I have to

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Speaker 1: Ever since my beautiful and amazing wedding, I've been like, wait,

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Speaker 1: like I've been putting in work and trying to hang

442
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Speaker 1: out with people hard.

443
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Speaker 3: Are you friends with the Dare?

444
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Speaker 1: Should of course new York based.

445
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 2: I think he's New York based. Yeah, Sam wishes you

446
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 2: can hang out with the Dare. I think they're texting

447
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker 2: him like happy bird.

448
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 1: Do you think you're not hanging out with the Dare?

449
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: You think the Dare isn't my best man at my wedding?

450
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Speaker 3: Can I say one grape about that?

451
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:57,760
Speaker 2: About one?

452
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,640
Speaker 1: One grape politics?

453
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 2: That's did you say one grape? Because you're drinking a

454
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 2: grape and I speak weird.

455
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 3: She's having a snare at great.

456
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 4: It's more about okay and I I love Charlie x

457
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,679
Speaker 4: CX and I would love to collab.

458
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 3: I just think it's interesting.

459
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,679
Speaker 4: No, I need trained and keep going like a red

460
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Speaker 4: dot of hears on my friend, keep going. I just

461
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 4: think it's interesting that, like it used to be Judd

462
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 4: Apatow was the comedic cinematic universe, and now it's Charlie

463
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 4: the comedic cinematic Like she's a comedy gate peper. I'm like,

464
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Speaker 4: that's interesting, That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Charlie, Charlie XX is the new Judd Appetize, She's the

466
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Speaker 2: new Judd.

467
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Speaker 4: She's like every single show it's going to be Charlie's

468
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,959
Speaker 4: making it, Charlie's in it, And I'm like, okay, how

469
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 4: do I get my materials to Charlie.

470
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Speaker 2: I never knew that I would have to impress Charlie.

471
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Speaker 2: I was very heavy just being a fan, like I'm

472
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Speaker 2: comfortable with her being cooler.

473
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Speaker 3: Than I am. It's unbelievable.

474
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get like these comedic parts and I'm

475
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Speaker 4: like competing with Julia Fox.

476
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Speaker 1: No, you're one hundred percent. You are so right. This

477
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 1: is like one of the more genius takes. We have

478
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 1: to blow this up because it's not fair. She's a musician,

479
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: she shouldn't begin to get charge.

480
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 3: This is where I'm like, I'm scared.

481
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 2: Now, but this is all well and also okay, so

482
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 2: Charlie's jod Appatel. The hims are SNL basically their short

483
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 2: form video output is you know, make Stalter level completely.

484
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 3: So what's the tea. I don't know what we're supposed

485
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Speaker 3: to do next thing.

486
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 2: You know, Bonnie Vera is gonna start doing weird now.

487
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Speaker 3: He's actually really good.

488
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Speaker 1: No, he'd be good at that, it would be really stunning.

489
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Speaker 2: Okay, But here's I have a sort of a another

490
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Speaker 2: outlook on this. Historically, male musicians were allowed to be

491
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Speaker 2: the funny ones. You know how Eminem would always be like,

492
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Speaker 2: by the way, I'm.

493
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Speaker 3: Why I started comedy, Like we came up together Eminem.

494
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 2: Every the first two lead singles of every album, one

495
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 2: would be about abuse and the other one would be

496
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Speaker 2: a full on SNL Kathy Griffin.

497
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Speaker 3: Doing like full character work. Yeah.

498
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Speaker 2: My point being that it's actually like justice that now

499
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Speaker 2: women musicians are the funny ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not that it's not that Charlie XCX

501
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: is doing skits, it's that she is literally being She's

502
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Speaker 1: Lauren Michaels, is what she is.

503
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying.

504
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Speaker 1: She's like the kingmaker.

505
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Speaker 3: Yes, she's in charge of like the industry. It's like

506
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Speaker 3: the contracts and the deal. We're like, if I want

507
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 3: to green light a picture, I can't do that without her.

508
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 3: I can't do that without her. That's okay. I'm really

509
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Speaker 3: happy for her.

510
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Speaker 1: You know how, Like drag Race changed, Like now every

511
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: drag queen does rupe Paul's style drag to try to

512
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Speaker 1: get on drag Race. Now we're all doing sort of

513
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: Charlie XCX style comedy so that she'll notice us. We're like,

514
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Speaker 1: look how glamorous we are. Look we're it girls and fabulous.

515
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Speaker 3: Wait, oh my god.

516
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Speaker 4: It's so because I when I started doing stand up,

517
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 4: I would always wear like a dumb, little slutty outfit

518
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 4: and it really is a prison of my own making.

519
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 3: Then now I have to like every time we're a petticoat.

520
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Speaker 4: And equipment everything, it takes like five hours to get ready,

521
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 4: so annoying.

522
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: It's so long. That's really tough.

523
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Speaker 2: Should we not to completely drive this conversational hal Should

524
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Speaker 2: we do our first oh my god, so that we

525
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Speaker 2: can get into the top.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm like, no, that's a great point. I'm

527
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: having too much fun.

528
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Speaker 4: We also say, I'm like, I take your time. You

529
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Speaker 4: should follow me on Instagram.

530
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Speaker 3: Uh, Tessa, we had just gotten bast attention.

531
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Speaker 4: But I'm like, totally take your time, dude, on your

532
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 4: own time, but like I challenge it and empower you

533
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Speaker 4: to follow me on.

534
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Speaker 2: Instagram'sa I'm gonna have to put you on time out

535
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Speaker 2: and you are a high school student, so you have

536
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Speaker 2: to listen to me.

537
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Speaker 3: I know, I'm kidding. This drive me home after this.

538
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Speaker 4: My learners, by the way, say I care about you

539
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 4: so much anything. Our vibe is really similar and we

540
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 4: have really good chemistry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish we were in the same room because

542
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: then it could really really pop off.

543
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Speaker 3: I can tell. Let me say it back. That's what

544
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: the hell literally did say it?

545
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 2: You require so much validation.

546
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. That is true.

547
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: This is unfair. I'm I'm I'm cold and I'm ungiving.

548
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 3: This is what I am. No, do you think you're

549
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 3: cold and on giving sometimes?

550
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: So you're sort of like Dakota Johnson and materialist.

551
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a lot like Dakota Johnson materialists.

552
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 2: No, it never No, it's just like.

553
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm not effusive.

554
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Speaker 3: I think.

555
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: No, that's true, that's true. I think people get confused

556
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: because you're so You're so positive and smiley and like

557
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: bubbly and silly. Yeah, but you're not fake.

558
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: I'm not fake.

559
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Speaker 2: It's and that's actually one of your worst. Literally, I'm

560
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Speaker 2: like begging, no, he's not.

561
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Speaker 1: No.

562
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Speaker 2: Sam will literally never like guess someone up if he

563
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Speaker 2: doesn't believe it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool, say your word means something. Yeah, I'm like,

565
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 3: it's like, obviously we can't.

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Speaker 2: Believe it at all.

567
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 4: No, I have believe in complimenting. I feel like I

568
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: like telling people that they're amazing. I think that's like

569
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 4: very femme.

570
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 3: I think I like telling people them.

571
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: I like telling people they're amazing if I know it,

572
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: like it's the only problem is I don't know, like

573
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: like like you and georging out all the time. So

574
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: of course your friends and he can be like, of

575
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: course we have amazing chemistry. I'm like, I don't know

576
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: our chemistry yet, we barely have focus.

577
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Speaker 3: I love you doubling down and be like, I don't

578
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: know if you're amazing, I don't know. We got Our first.

579
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Speaker 2: Segment is called Street Shooters, and in this segment, we

580
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,239
Speaker 2: test your familiarity with and complicity and stick culture by

581
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: asking you a series of rapid fire questions where you

582
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Speaker 2: have to choose this thing or this other thing. And

583
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 2: the one rule is you can't ask any follow up

584
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: questions about how the game works. Do you copy totally, Tessa,

585
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: I was born to run? Or starships were meant?

586
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 3: Why starships starship?

587
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Tessa lost in the sauce? Or Oshkosh Bagosh.

588
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 3: Lost in the ess.

589
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 2: Bless this mess? Dress to impress?

590
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 3: Or do you ever go by tests?

591
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Speaker 1: Do you ever, okay, respect your elders and olds or

592
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: inspect your shelter for mold?

593
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

594
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: I think you should respect your elders. Obviously, I'm saying

595
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 4: that because of the company.

596
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: Okay, now we're old.

597
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Speaker 3: What is the no? Wait, I'm actually worried. I'm worried

598
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: that your audience is gonna not like me.

599
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 4: But I care about you guys so much like I'm

600
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 4: I'm literally a fan before I am like a peer.

601
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: Having a need for speed, or losing the will to read.

602
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: Losing the will to read leftist politics or a sexist

603
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Speaker 1: shopping riff.

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Speaker 3: Oh, definitely a sexist.

605
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Speaker 2: Maybe posting hole on close friends are going to the

606
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Speaker 2: mole on the weekend?

607
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Speaker 3: Is the mold mall? I never asked that any that

608
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Speaker 3: would be a question I would ask if I didn't

609
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Speaker 3: know the rules.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, thank you, uh posting.

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Speaker 1: Hole Intelligentsia Coffee or Anastasia Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 3: Anastasia Beverly Hills. I literally like I grew up there.

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Speaker 1: I was, that's literally your home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: First of all, okay, yes, we rate our guests on

616
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Speaker 1: scale of zero to one thousand doves. And I am

617
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm feeling sort of this interesting style

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Speaker 1: of trapped, where you know, if I give you a

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00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: high score, it's a lot. We're faking it. If I

620
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: give you a low score, I'm being mean and not

621
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Speaker 1: validating you. So I'm lost. George, what do you think

622
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: the score is?

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Speaker 2: I think I have to say I actually think she

624
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Speaker 2: did a really I agree, and I have reasons for it.

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00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: I think that she showed vulnerability in the sort of

626
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: offhand comment of like, I hope your audience likes me.

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00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: I thought the save of asking a question that immediately

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Speaker 2: saying that's a question I would ask if I didn't

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Speaker 2: know the rules was like a brilliant meta commentary Charlie

630
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Speaker 2: xx level comedy. I think she might be getting the

631
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Speaker 2: role of cashier at Fire Island Pines liquor store when

632
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: Charlie goes in there to buy poppers in her big film. Yeah,

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00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: and so I'm thinking a high score. Now we're talking

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Speaker 2: eight hundred to one thousand range. Now this is where

635
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: it gets tricky.

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Speaker 3: No, do you what do you think?

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Speaker 1: You know? I think we just got to split the

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Speaker 1: diff and say, a clean nine hundred doves.

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Speaker 2: A clean nine hundred doves, thank you, guys.

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Speaker 3: Score a really good score. I just like I care

641
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Speaker 3: about good test scores.

642
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Speaker 2: I know what I forgot. And you got into Yale

643
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Speaker 2: one time one time.

644
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Speaker 3: Well, I for a long time.

645
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 4: I was like an sat tutor or like a college

646
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 4: essay tutor. I'm part of the college admission scandal.

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Speaker 3: You know, are you No? My boss was in that

648
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: Netflix dock. Really. Yeah, we're like editing the kids into

649
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: pictures of them rowing were shopping them. Yeah, someone had

650
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: to do it.

651
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Speaker 2: I still every like approximately once a month, I'm like,

652
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Speaker 2: I need to get into, say t tutoring because it's

653
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Speaker 2: really good money and I'd be amazing.

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Speaker 3: You'd be so good. Oh my god, it's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Especially college essays is more fun because it's like trauma porn.

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Speaker 3: You have to be like, that's the worst thing that

657
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: ever happened to you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like a girl told me she was burned head

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Speaker 3: to toe. H t T. I was like, you're gonna

661
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Speaker 3: go to Harvard. You got this, sweetie fie.

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Speaker 1: There should be a Materialists about a college essay person.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Sam, that's genius. That's actually like a

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Speaker 2: better idea than Materialists. No offense to Seline's.

665
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: Well, I loved Materialists on record.

666
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: Yes, for anyone who doesn't listen to the Patreon the

667
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: big reveal I went in. I sort of didn't love Materialists,

668
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: but then Sam loved it so much that he won

669
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: me over, And now.

670
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: I loved you saw it through Sam's eyes? Yes?

671
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: At first I saw it through my eyes, I said,

672
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: not for me totally. Then I saw it through Sam's eyes.

673
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: I said, Oscar, Now.

674
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that I haven't seen it yet. I didn't

675
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: do that.

676
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: That's okay, that's okay.

677
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: Are you going to at least I wasn't. Would you

678
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: ever support female film maker felm makers film I'm foreign?

679
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: Would you ever support female field makers?

680
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: No?

681
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: We're rivals? Yeah? What about Charli XCX?

682
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 4: Absolutely my rival. This is how I feel about like

683
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: Arita Grande being cast in Wicked.

684
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: I was like, that should have been me. I really am,

685
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: like we'd like it was me or her on that one.

686
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: Damn, you're sort of not a girl's girl.

687
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: No, that's actually so hey. I don't even want to

688
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: joke about that. It's not fine because you are, because

689
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: you're not a huge girl you are. I really ride

690
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: for the girls so much.

691
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 2: And yeah, and when you say girls, do you mean

692
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: gay guys mostly of course not women.

693
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: Ride for girls who are no, no, no, I care.

694
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 4: I really My whole project is that, I like, I

695
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: care about women so much. And that's like, obviously not

696
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 4: cool and it's not financially sound. You're only gonna lose

697
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 4: that way. Obviously I've lost the room I said I

698
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 4: liked women. I've completely lost the real.

699
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: Sorry. We were like, when do gay guys come back?

700
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, we gave you an inn.

701
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 4: Well can I say that like the way like sapfix

702
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: run Twitter now, like a sapphig fan cam can do

703
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: more for your career than going on Jamie Fallon a lot.

704
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: Can do more for your career than going on Jimmy Fallen.

705
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: That's true. I just want to like, I want to

706
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: hold him by the shoulders.

707
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: Wait, Sam, what are you gonna say?

708
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 3: No, No, I think you're right.

709
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: I think I find that like Twitter is obviously beyond dead,

710
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: and yet whenever there's like something happening on it, I'm like, no,

711
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: this is real, this is real, and this matters, and

712
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: it's like a very skewed view of the world, and

713
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: yet I see it.

714
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: I have to say something about Twitter. They have figured

715
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: out some sort of algorithm. They meaning, you know, elon musk.

716
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: I guess sure, I no longer go on it, but

717
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: like during the day. But what I do is once

718
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: a day, at in the evening, usually before bed, I

719
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: go on desktop and I scroll for approximately ten minutes.

720
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: And what happens is the algorithm naturally gives me the

721
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: top like gay guye jokes of the day, and I'm

722
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: in heaven. I don't it no longer is a gative

723
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: space for me. It's like if you just you don't

724
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: go during the day, you don't go like you don't

725
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: like political stuff, you just go once. It's like Gwyneth

726
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 2: Paltra having one cigarette at the end of the day

727
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 2: and somehow it's good for her rather than bad. If

728
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: you just go once on desktop at the end of

729
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: the day, I'm seeing the funniest shit you cannot believe.

730
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: Do you not find That's not I don't find that,

731
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: but I wish I had your feed. I guess I

732
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: get like I get.

733
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: The most crazy sort of rancid stuff.

734
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: Yes seeh I went through that phase and then in

735
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: my feed at least and maybe this is because I'm

736
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: like liking very strategically or something in my feed, all

737
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: that stuff is gone and it's now like laughs laughs.

738
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: Laughs, that's nice.

739
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm visiting like a small town when

740
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: I go on it, like You're like, yes, on this person,

741
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: why are they verified? Why is this the ad I'm seeing?

742
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: Like it feels very local news.

743
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like a really niche subreddit and you're like, yeah,

744
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: I guess this's what you guys are doing here.

745
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. Sorry off topic, Tessa.

746
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, I'm so shock.

747
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 5: Hi.

748
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: I can't but feel there's still tension between us and

749
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: I really.

750
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: Much kind.

751
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: By the way, that's your solo merch Merch Merch printed

752
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: merg Do you want to tell us your straight topic

753
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: and what is straight about it?

754
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: And potentially even first list the ones you had as

755
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: a short list, and then we'll go into the one

756
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: you chose.

757
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so one of them is doing stuff? Do you

758
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: have to?

759
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: And spoiler alert that will be the one we end

760
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: up doing. Okay, So let's put a pin in that.

761
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: There's also prank culture obvious a classic, and then being

762
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: fundamentally unknown.

763
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: Which I think circles back to doing stuff absolutely. Now

764
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: I really want to hear your theory of why doing

765
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: stuff is straight, because I actually think it.

766
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: It's like.

767
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: A sort of overarching theme of many topics we've done

768
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: on the podcast.

769
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: Okay cool.

770
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 4: So basically I think that like talking having sex, that's

771
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 4: for gay people straight people, they.

772
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: Obviously kind of don't have anything in common or don't.

773
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: Really know each other, so they need their interaction to

774
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 4: be like mediated by an activity.

775
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: So that's why it's like, you need to do stuff.

776
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 4: You're going to be watching the TV show together, You're

777
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 4: gonna be going bowling together, board games.

778
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 3: You might be franking that girl. You might be branking

779
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 3: that girl.

780
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: So that's what I think, happy how I think. I

781
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: think doing stuff is a really genius topic. It makes

782
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: me think immediately of sort of my straight coworkers. And

783
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: when you recount like oh, what did you do this weekend?

784
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: Like they're always like, oh, I went on a hike,

785
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: I like gardened, I went to the blank, I did this,

786
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: I went to the flea market. And then I'm always like, oh,

787
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: like I can't I can't share, Like I don't have

788
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: anything I did. Like what I did was I went

789
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: to the Eagle and then I I stayed home all

790
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: day the next day.

791
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you're like, my weekend was more of a vibe.

792
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a series of structured events. Sorry, no, totally.

793
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't doing a beat by beat outline of a film.

794
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: I was living my life.

795
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not doing like a syllabus like a college

796
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 4: orientation activities.

797
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: You're living in the moment.

798
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: God forbid, God forbid.

799
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: I do get jealous of it sometimes because it seems

800
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: like a very like I don't know, you like, do

801
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: get to experience things like people know they can have

802
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: Straight people are allowed to have hobbies because they're doing stuff,

803
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 1: whereas gay people, it's like, are you the only hobby

804
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: you're allowed to have is like reading the article and

805
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: listening to the song.

806
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: Reading the article and listening Did you read the article?

807
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: Did you listen to the song that's literally every gay

808
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: guy all day long? Did you read an article? Did

809
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: you listen to the song? And every lesbian that's true.

810
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: So I'm I also have had a similar circular path

811
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: in terms of my relationship doing stuff, which first I'm like,

812
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: that's pathetic. Doing stuff is pathetic. Yes, you're pathetic.

813
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 4: Yes.

814
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: Then you start experimenting with doing stuff. You take a

815
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: trip that has a few more activities. You you do

816
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: play apples to apples, you do, go on a hike,

817
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: and you realize that actually, if you do it right,

818
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 2: it actually opens up possibilities, and you're like, wait a second,

819
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: is this what they've been hiding from us this whole time.

820
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm gonna like it. Right.

821
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: Me thinks doing stuff is going to be my new thing.

822
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: I think I like this little.

823
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: Okay, well this to me, but sorry, you go, you go,

824
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: you go, you go. No, No, I'm being stupid.

825
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 3: I want you go. Don't talk about my friends.

826
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 4: I think that like hobbies, though, I don't want to

827
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: have a safety net because I sometimes am hustle a grind.

828
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: Set where I'm like, no, it's cheating.

829
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: Hobbies are cheating.

830
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't get the film it for anything else.

831
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: In order to be successful, you have to be in

832
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 4: pain constantly, and so yeah, you can't have any moments

833
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 4: of peace or happiness.

834
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: You know what this reminds you of. It's like in comedy.

835
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, if you reference a proper noun, that's cheating.

836
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: If you're doing a bit and it's about Ariana Grande, yeah,

837
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: that's cheating because you're looking for a shortcut a reference.

838
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: Everyone understands your bit should be about the concept of

839
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: existence and if you can't pull that off, get the

840
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: fuck off the stake. Yes, it should be about time.

841
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: It should be about the nature of existence. It should

842
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: be about living in a body. And how awkward that is.

843
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: Well, I think this. Of course this is gave her straight.

844
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: But of course we're gonna have to say it. It's

845
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: La versus New York el. LA is all about doing stuff,

846
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: what is your activity? And New York is not about

847
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: doing stuff at all unless it's.

848
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: Going to the met Here's where it is. New York

849
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: is about spending money to not do stuff somehow, and

850
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: LA is about not spending money to do stuff and

851
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 2: so hiking, Oh my god, you're so right, Like coming

852
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: over to the house for a game night. LA is

853
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: all about somehow like constantly planning activities but not paying

854
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: for them. And in New York it's like, well, I

855
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: spend one hundred thousand dollars tonight and what did I do?

856
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: Have a drink? Completely you leave the house, You're gonna

857
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 3: send forty dollars.

858
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: I had this talk about the LA is infecting me.

859
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: I was like, I should sign up for surfing lessons.

860
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: I should stunt up. Wait, you should? That would be

861
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: fat My being surper is so randomly.

862
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: Curious, Sam, you should absolutely do that.

863
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 4: Did you have the thing where it's like our greatest

864
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: minds go to LA and then they become Marvel?

865
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, where it's like you this is like actually dangerous territory.

866
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: No, please, I think true. I think this is dangerous

867
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: in the way that we should go.

868
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: Right.

869
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: Do you have one thing that scares you every day?

870
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: And actually, I'm noticing a lot. I've seen this happen

871
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: a few times over the last seven years. Someone goes there,

872
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: becomes ninety percent Marvel and then like wakes up in

873
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: a sort of matrix like trance and is like, I

874
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: have to move back to New York otherwise, Like I

875
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: can see my body.

876
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

877
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: Change, Yeah, I think I think I'm definitely at risk

878
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: of going Marvel. I mean, when they go low, we

879
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: go Marble.

880
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: I just feel like.

881
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: Everyone is so polite and normal here that you do

882
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: just like everyone starts to look at you with an

883
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: ugly face when you are not that, and so that

884
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: it softens everything.

885
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 4: Well, but every time I see somebody with their abs,

886
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, for each ab, you could have written

887
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 4: a specscript, right you in spec script, I'm literally just

888
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 4: like for each alb, I'm like, oh, interesting, they.

889
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: Drop the script, so you are literally published.

890
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: But so your thing is that, like, because this is

891
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: an interesting point of view, you think people need to

892
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: be more hustle culture.

893
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, this is actually toxic. It's not even like

894
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 4: you should just like like love your friends.

895
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 3: And give beauty.

896
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: You're are you not working?

897
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: Go to the option? Yeah, that is true.

898
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: Specifically go to the factory key in the bottle, that's

899
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 4: what about?

900
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: Specifically for comedy?

901
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, so you could write on Big Mouth season

902
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: four hundred.

903
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: Which is, by the way, show run by Charlie X. Yeah,

904
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: I just read that on Deadline.

905
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: Sorry, No, I think you're right.

906
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: I think but that is, I think people in New

907
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: York don't want to have balance. They want to and

908
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: people in LA are like, well, six hours of my

909
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: day for mindfulness and then I do one hour writing.

910
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but I actually think that like that probably

911
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 3: gets more done.

912
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 4: Like it's not true that you have to be like

913
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: suffering every waking moment in order to be productive.

914
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 3: That's not true.

915
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: No, And this is sort of like the dark truth

916
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: about New York versus LA is that despite the fact

917
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: that New York is always like rushing, people in LA

918
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: are actually sort of doing more what.

919
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: They're doing something, they're doing, They're doing stuff. No everyone.

920
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: It's like you see someone in New York and she

921
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: looks so in her and you're like, wow, she's probably

922
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: like a governor and she's going to a sample sale.

923
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: Oh, you're literally good women to be shocking for my head.

924
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: So I'm doing women be shopping Tesla.

925
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: If you were to do stuff, what stuff would it be?

926
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

927
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: If you had if you if there was a gun

928
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: to your head and they said do stuff.

929
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: This is where I actually worry that I have like

930
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: no interiority or like point.

931
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: That's where I get scary.

932
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 4: Well, some a lot of people recently, on different occasions,

933
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 4: have said I can't imagine you listening to music, which

934
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 4: is basically like you have no inner life.

935
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: Several people they dare accuse you of not listening to

936
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: the song.

937
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 2: The dare accuse me you've never heard my music. So people,

938
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I will say, you do talk a lot about.

939
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: Specscripts accomplishing. Yeah, right, but it's because I haven't.

940
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: But I think you're also you're someone that like always

941
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: knows the industry tea in a way that stresses me out.

942
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: To be honest, I like you, I am so toxic.

943
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: But it's not even like it's also I know about

944
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 4: Brooklyn comedy. Like my special interest is like the old

945
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 4: scene in Brooklyn, Like when I was in college, I

946
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 4: would take the Metro North to come like go to

947
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: the Bell House.

948
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: And like see you guys. Literally, So I'm like I'm paying.

949
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm paying.

950
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm paying you to do this podcast. Absolutely, you're the

951
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 2: first guest to actually paid. This isn't make a wish.

952
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 2: We were looking for students New York area.

953
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 4: I'm getting college crediting the podcast.

954
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: This is the Second City thing all over again.

955
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I wish that like my industry knowledge was like, actually,

956
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: not even niche. It's like so small. It's like for

957
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: a four block rating. Yeah.

958
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, your industry knowledge is like someone who is twenty

959
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: three had a general meeting with True TV which they're rebooting, which.

960
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 4: By the way, No, I'm like, I always know who's

961
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 4: going to do a Man on the Street TikTok style show.

962
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is all of us eventually.

963
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, here's no you die the hero

964
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: early answers.

965
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: My emails, No, every diet are you guys getting these

966
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 4: emails from media companies called like BLUPA that are like,

967
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 4: what if you cleaned a boy's room as a TikTok

968
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 4: I it.

969
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 2: Was like Rachel cost catching straight Rachie, this is a

970
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: pro pro Rachel.

971
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 3: Podcast, I pitting women against you.

972
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: These were pro Rachel. Doesn't mean we're anti Tessa, yeah,

973
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: or does it? I No. I find the TikTok shows

974
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: that it was so charming at the beginning, and now

975
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm like they're getting like emptier and emptier and emptier,

976
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, enough, like we need to go

977
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: have some substance again.

978
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: I agree. Yeah, I think long form is back.

979
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, it's called substack, and you better get on it.

980
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: How to your next bacscript, It's gonna be on substock.

981
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wait, do you have a substack?

982
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: This whole time, I do not have one, but I

983
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: have been threatening to make one for quite literally sick.

984
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 4: It does feel like I'm like, that's a threat, Like

985
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: you have a gun, I have a substack.

986
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Georgia, you're also one of those people that

987
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: I feel like you don't need a substack. You carry

988
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: the substack energy where people just you walk through the room,

989
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: people assume.

990
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. I'm gonna actually accept that.

991
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: That's good. That's really good.

992
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: But don't you think that's even more reason for me

993
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: to start a substack, because it's like I'm leaving money

994
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: on the table people already. It's like I'm already doing

995
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: the work of having a substack, which is kind of

996
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: like acting like I'm better than everyone.

997
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 3: Totally.

998
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: This is so why not put pen to paper?

999
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 4: No, I think it's like the vibe is enough, Like

1000
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: I'm kind of wondering if I should just be taking

1001
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 4: pictures of myself with podcast mikes and not even have

1002
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 4: a podcast. I'm just imposting if I'm talking another day

1003
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 4: in the Office episode five.

1004
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: Actually, okay, here's an idea. How much time would it

1005
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: take for someone to figure out your scam if all

1006
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: you did was rent a studio like this, Yeah, get

1007
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of outfits and shoot twenty seven one minute

1008
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: clips of you saying things as though it's a clip

1009
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: from a podcast.

1010
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

1011
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: I guarantee you do that in one afternoon.

1012
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that would be successful. I don't know if

1013
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: you There was a whole thing where that was like

1014
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: an advertising strategy where they were literally doing that, where

1015
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 1: they would fake podcasts and have like normal cool hosts

1016
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: be like actually like Crest White trips I find to

1017
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: be kind of cool.

1018
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 2: Well they did that with stand up too, stand up yes, yes.

1019
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: Fake stand up clips.

1020
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: It's really dark cultural recession.

1021
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say one time, George and I actually pretended

1022
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: to record a podcast for ads. Yeah, we did do that,

1023
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: but it was we were being ourselves. We weren't like

1024
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: promoting anything except the idea of podcasts. But and honestly,

1025
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: we like kind of and we did an amazing job.

1026
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: And actually when those that's the guy who was running

1027
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: that I am now friends with in Los Angeles.

1028
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: Yes, super cool Australia. You should come to your boy.

1029
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: Well he's he's in Australia right now, Oh my god,

1030
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 3: there we go.

1031
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: Here here, Okay, here's actually an example. Sorry to be

1032
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: so self indulgent. Here's an example of Sam and me

1033
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: like leaving money on the table. We did those ads.

1034
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: They were for Apple podcasts. We never posted them or

1035
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: or mentioned that we did them to anyone because we

1036
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: were embarrassed that we did an ad.

1037
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: Are you serious?

1038
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: Can you believe that?

1039
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: I believe that that's very us. We're bad at our.

1040
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 3: It's like, are we so fucking stupid?

1041
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: Wait, here's those.

1042
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: Two years ago? Did you get money for it?

1043
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 2: I don't remember the details, but it was the love

1044
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: of the game. I think it was like it was like, uh,

1045
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: they were featuring.

1046
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: Their yeah promotions, promotion.

1047
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah it was promotion.

1048
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: Well I guess it wasn't since we didn't post it,

1049
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: so by definition it wasn't.

1050
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys need to be less like you need

1051
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 3: to be more shameless.

1052
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: No, I'm ready. I'm ready to be shameless now, and

1053
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: I fear it's too late. I've resisted my entire life.

1054
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: I've always really like almost fetishized the idea of integrity.

1055
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: Mmmm, and so have you?

1056
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: No, I have, and it's disgusting and it's and where

1057
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: has it left me?

1058
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1059
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: On this flat screen TV, I'm just a.

1060
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: Girling on screen.

1061
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: It's interesting though, because you're like, you're fetishizing integrity, But

1062
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 4: is it like for you said, it's not even necessarily

1063
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: for political causes, like what causes it?

1064
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: For No, it's like we still believe in the concept

1065
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: of to some extent.

1066
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: And I realize we are currently recording like a compedy,

1067
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: you know. I realized that, like we're not saying, you know,

1068
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,479
Speaker 2: we're not saving lives here, but I think there's still

1069
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: We're still old enough that we slightly believe in the

1070
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: concept of settling out.

1071
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: We still believe in like things being.

1072
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: In poor taste or cringe or something.

1073
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 3: Well, okay, I was talking about this with Joe cassel

1074
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: Baker shout out, shout out, shout out, and.

1075
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: Because everyone loves to talk about cringe Mountain, where it's like,

1076
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 4: in order to be six, well, you need to get

1077
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 4: on the other side of cringe Mountain. And Joe was like, well,

1078
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 4: there's actually more to it than that, which is true.

1079
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 4: You can't just be cringe you also have to be good. Yeah,

1080
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 4: that is always getting left.

1081
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: This is actually this is similar to how people are

1082
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: Like Tony Morrison didn't publish her first novel until she

1083
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: was forty two. It's like, right, but she actually was

1084
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: smart and talented me it was for it, and she

1085
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: worked throughout that time to accomplish it. It's not like

1086
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 2: you're gonna turn forty two and write a novel. You're

1087
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: not gonna write belove it.

1088
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm literally gonna turn forty two and write a novel.

1089
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: Wait have I told you guys this? I keep having

1090
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: this thought where I'm like, the moment I turn forty,

1091
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a musician. Like, do I play any instruments? No,

1092
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be I'm gonna be a musician when

1093
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: I turned forty, and I just know it's gonna do

1094
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: a reverse charge. I'm gonna do a reverse charge. I'm

1095
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: gonna be in charge of the music industry. I'm gonna

1096
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: be the kingmaker.

1097
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: You're gonna be the Jack Antona of music.

1098
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 4: You don't need to play instruments, you just need an

1099
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 4: I do literally that's and don't get me wrong, I

1100
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 4: can't play the iPad either.

1101
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Speaker 1: I mean, the moment I'm opening a program, I'm saying, ah,

1102
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: but you know, the taste is just there and there's

1103
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: no denying that. When I'm forty, I will be a musician.

1104
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: God.

1105
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 2: When Macy was DJing at your wedding, I was like,

1106
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to take DJ classes.

1107
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 3: Oh, Michael, no cry for hope.

1108
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: I had a friend who did that and honestly, and

1109
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: you may know, her name is RuPaul, her name is.

1110
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was just a scrappy little nobody until she

1111
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: took those DJ classes.

1112
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,959
Speaker 2: Oh my god, scrappy little nobody. Anna Kendrick mentioned.

1113
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean, do we have more to say about doing stuff?

1114
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: I feel like we like sort of left it, left

1115
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: it so quickly.

1116
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1117
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 4: Oh well, I just think it's like it just okay.

1118
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: I had my first boyfriend when.

1119
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: I shout out Joe kessel Baker, Yeah, you.

1120
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 4: Always like living with a guy and I can't afford it.

1121
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 4: But I'm like an artist in residence at his house,

1122
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 4: like sponsoring me in my work, and I was I

1123
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 4: was there working working on my projects and his any specs.

1124
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: I've like never written, except I simply can't believe that

1125
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: based on how many times are your referenced.

1126
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: The no I actually don't know what it is.

1127
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: That's why you drop the broad broad City Specs script. Now,

1128
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: now I know Alana gets up to you through your eyes.

1129
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 3: Wait know I think I told you this, but I wrote, Okay,

1130
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 3: the only thing I read.

1131
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 4: I wrote a pilot about like this girl Bella who

1132
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 4: was like suicidal, and my manager read it and she goes,

1133
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 4: why is Tessa, I mean Bella a suicidal?

1134
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 3: She's like, why does Testa want to kill herself? I

1135
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 3: mean the character? And I'm like, nice name, right, the character?

1136
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: Not okay.

1137
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 4: I was living in his house, yes, and his roommate

1138
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 4: like didn't know how to talk to me, and so

1139
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 4: the only thing he knew was that we had both

1140
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 4: seen mad Men, and so genuinely every time I'd entered

1141
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 4: the room and he'd be like mad Men.

1142
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 3: Like Tessa like mad Men, And.

1143
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, like that was the only way two

1144
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 4: people could talk or connect was like through that point.

1145
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: I see.

1146
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: I say, So that's an extension of doing stuff is

1147
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: watching having reference.

1148
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is interesting.

1149
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 4: It's like not even like I was like I've seen

1150
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 4: that like three episodes. I'm not like the president of

1151
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 4: the Madman.

1152
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: Fish yeah, what what you were wanting was his roommate

1153
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: to come in the door and say, wait, is everything okay?

1154
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: You seem tense?

1155
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 3: No?

1156
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: No, really?

1157
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, why is bella suicidal?

1158
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1159
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: Put your hand on my chest. Feel how I breathe?

1160
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that sounds all this is.

1161
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: This reminds me of Okay, get ready for me to

1162
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: quote an SNL sketch.

1163
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: Here we go, Mama.

1164
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: Fred Armison as what's the French woman? French pretentious woman.

1165
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: It's like Justine or Brigitte or something.

1166
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm talking about?

1167
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: Imag Fred Armison in a black bob wig. Sure, I'm

1168
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: seeing it. Regime Regiene. Okay, okay, So it's the character

1169
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 2: of Regime. And the whole thing is that she is

1170
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: someone's new boyfriend and they're all in like a sort

1171
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: of middle class bourgeois house. But Regiene is too sophisticated,

1172
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 2: and she's like, let's talk about outsider art. But everyone

1173
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: else like wants to play a board game. That is

1174
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: like the gay the gay person at the at the

1175
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 2: straight convention of people talking about mad Men, they're like, did.

1176
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: You guys read the article? Did you listen to the song?

1177
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: Did you read the article.

1178
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: Can we talk about okay, I have something to talk

1179
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: about with when it comes to the song, yes, okay.

1180
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: Do you have this thing where when the song comes out,

1181
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: you're so excited and you're waiting for the album to

1182
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: come out, and you're like, when this album comes out,

1183
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be so happy because I'll get to listen

1184
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: to not just one song, and to listen to upwards

1185
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: of ten songs. And then the album comes out and

1186
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: you find listening to the album to be a chore

1187
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: even though you like it and you like all the songs.

1188
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: And then you're like, there's a deep sadness when the

1189
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: album actually comes out because you are now not looking

1190
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: forward to anything.

1191
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, what it is? Suddenly you're doing stuff. Oh my gong.

1192
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: The single, the like vibe of the single is much

1193
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: more about like, yes, you do the homework of listening

1194
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: to one song that's two and a half minutes long,

1195
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: but it's not really about that. It's about like the

1196
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: day is has this flavor of newness and of innovation

1197
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: and of anticipation that is very gay. Sitting down and

1198
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: having to listen to an album is straight, and that

1199
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: you are doing homework.

1200
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 4: Completely Wow, I also think I think that, like I

1201
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 4: like already knowing the song. What's fun about a song

1202
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 4: is that you already know it. And so when and

1203
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: when there's one song that's easier to do, I can

1204
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 4: get it pretty quick.

1205
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: A full album. I'm like, I don't know you.

1206
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: You're essentially doing dual lingo when the album comes out.

1207
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: Yes, you're doing du lin du a lingo when the

1208
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 2: dua lipa album comes out, and.

1209
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: You're saying, you're saying, how fast can I listen to

1210
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: this ten times so that it feels like I've known

1211
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: it my whole life?

1212
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Yeah, because here's the thing. You actually can't

1213
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: know an album until a year later.

1214
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe three months. I can do it in

1215
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: three months.

1216
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, you're well, you're a musician, you're a professional,

1217
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: so you can do it in three months. For me,

1218
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: it takes a full year.

1219
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: And I don't listen to music, and you don't listen

1220
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: to music.

1221
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 2: You have no materiority. You're too busy waiting. Those lyrics

1222
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: distract you.

1223
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 3: PR nightmare going on. This is a pr nightmare for

1224
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 3: like a career enter. It makes you seem so psychic. Well,

1225
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 3: it was something about so no, go go go oh,

1226
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 3: can I say about doing stuff too?

1227
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 4: My thing about straight culture is like, okay, I think

1228
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 4: we're constantly doing stuff together and you can actually spend

1229
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 4: so much time.

1230
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 3: In a straight relationship and you guys don't know each

1231
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 3: other that well yeah, well yeah yeah.

1232
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 4: And this is why breakups, I actually think are it's

1233
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 4: it's helpful because when you break up, it's not personal

1234
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 4: because it's like you don't know me, you don't know me.

1235
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: That was This is literally the plot of the Materialists.

1236
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: You should actually watch Materials actually about that's a great idea.

1237
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: Please write Materialists too and put it.

1238
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 2: Up at the Bell House.

1239
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: I will be there.

1240
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 3: Yeah righte.

1241
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: A materialist specscript in the form of a multiicam sitcom,

1242
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: I Dare You, and all three of them are played

1243
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 2: by Charlie.

1244
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: It's Charlie, Troy and Benny Drama.

1245
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: No.

1246
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 2: The unknowability is god. It is so fundamental to the

1247
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 2: entire project of straight relationships.

1248
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1249
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: And in fact, like when you do break the mold

1250
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: and start getting to know someone that is stigmatized, it's

1251
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 2: like that's when a guy's like, she's crazy, bro, And

1252
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: that is when a woman is like he's angry. Yes, yeah,

1253
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 2: because you actually made the mistake of actually like breaking

1254
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 2: through a literal first layer.

1255
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 4: It's and I think there's like one I'm often performing

1256
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 4: more like the way I am. It's kind of Hannah

1257
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 4: Montana double life friends versus who you are with. And

1258
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 4: then so I think one problem is like you're being

1259
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 4: a different kind of girl when Carrie's talking to Big.

1260
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 3: Yes.

1261
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 4: But then there's the other issue of like boys are

1262
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 4: also so bad at understanding women or interpreting mirror emotions. Okay,

1263
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 4: so yes, So both things are happening, and that's why

1264
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 4: there's this like language barrier, Like does that make sense?

1265
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: So you are saying the barrier is on the one side,

1266
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 2: boys are clueless, totally. On the other side, girls are baking. Yes,

1267
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 2: girls are liars and boys are clueless.

1268
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 3: Is that a good Is that a good deal? Yeah?

1269
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: And that is why they can never connect kind of yeh.

1270
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: Because girls and it's also I can connect because they'll

1271
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: lie to each other and be like you're lying, and

1272
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: they can like know that, and but a boy is like,

1273
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: that's the truth, that's so true.

1274
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 3: I do. It's true. Girls can be like okay, so

1275
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 3: what really the boy will be like sound starting that

1276
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 3: keep walking.

1277
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 2: And this is actually what's so beautiful about female friendships

1278
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: and male friends. Female friendships, all the girls are lying,

1279
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: but then all the girls are like, okay, like but

1280
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: for real. Yeah, then male friendships, all the guys were

1281
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: just like they just go around grunting and they're like

1282
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: having the.

1283
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: Time of verbal.

1284
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: Yes, it's fantastic, it's non verbal, but it's true.

1285
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, like, okay, so when I was having like

1286
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: the worst time, wait, she's sweet that she's like, oh,

1287
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: he's non verbal. But it's a couple of girl that's

1288
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: literally male and female. I know, I hate Hey, we

1289
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: did like boys be like and girls be like. And

1290
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 3: we also were like New York be like la.

1291
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: Well that's kind of the entire premise of this podcast

1292
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: about it.

1293
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: But okay, I was having the worst period of my life.

1294
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 4: Yes, And I remember my friend went up to the

1295
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: guy who was dating at the time and she was like,

1296
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 4: I just check on.

1297
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: Testa, like I'm worried about her. And he was like,

1298
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what we're talking about. She's doing amazing.

1299
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 4: And four days later I went to said, word, it's

1300
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 4: just crazy. Like his finger could not have been less

1301
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 4: on the palls like he meant it. He was like,

1302
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 4: she's amazing.

1303
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: No, it's literally no man will look at a woman.

1304
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: And she's literally she's saying.

1305
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: Take me to the psych ward and he's like, did

1306
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: you mean to take you to see the materialists? Let's go.

1307
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm an AMC stuff. This is perfect.

1308
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we have seen this in our lives very recently,

1309
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: to an insane degree.

1310
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: I can't it's so it's so interesting. Well, I also

1311
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 3: think there's an interesting dynamic because we.

1312
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 4: Know age gap relationships, wealth gap relationships, hot gap relationships.

1313
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: And actually, when I learned recently woke gap relations.

1314
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: Oh oh I love that.

1315
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's also mental health gap relationships, yes, which is

1316
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 4: like I'm a crazy woman, and it's so hard when

1317
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 4: you're dating like a guy who's normal, because I'm mad.

1318
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 4: Both ways, either you're like othering me and I'm like

1319
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: what the fuck, or you're accepting it and I'm like, oh,

1320
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 4: so you want a little patient, you want to.

1321
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 3: Stick, you want to stick control. And also anytime they

1322
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: try to help you, it's like so condous.

1323
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 4: Anyone They're like, it seems like you might want to

1324
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 4: go on a little walk Yeah, like I'm a dog.

1325
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 3: When you're taking me on a walk. Does that make sense?

1326
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,479
Speaker 3: That makes makes complete sense?

1327
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: That sounds really complicated.

1328
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 4: Sorry, Liam, And by the way, of course, I'm sorry

1329
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 4: for everything I've said so far, and we'll continue to

1330
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 4: never apologize.

1331
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: That is a that is a subtext of every statement

1332
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: that any of us.

1333
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 3: Have ever made. Can I ask a question for you?

1334
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 3: Do you guys feel known by your spouses?

1335
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: Sam, you just got married, you go, I'm feeling so

1336
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: deeply known at this stage in my life. In some ways,

1337
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: I there's a just to have anything to talk about.

1338
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: I feel that I'm almost jealous sometimes of the distance

1339
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: the straight couples have where I'm like, so when you

1340
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: guys have sex, it's like having sex with a new person,

1341
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: like because You're like, who is this stranger?

1342
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 3: No?

1343
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: Literally, I completely agree. I would say that intimacy is

1344
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: sometimes uh crippling.

1345
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I'm I.

1346
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 2: I sometimes have moments where I'm like, oh, no, have

1347
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: we peeled back all the layers and there is no mystery?

1348
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: And then thankfully, you know, you grow, you get crazy

1349
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: in different ways.

1350
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you find in you. You listen to the song,

1351
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: He listens to the article He lives to the article.

1352
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: You have to unpack you both.

1353
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: You read the song the article.

1354
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I would, and I do think actually that

1355
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: is that is a stereotype that exists with gay people.

1356
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 2: It's like they are too in touch with their feelings.

1357
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 2: They're too always doing couple's therapy, always doing like therapy

1358
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 2: speak with one another, and there is something liberating about

1359
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: just simply not knowing who your partner is completely.

1360
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, enough communication, Yeah, well this is okay.

1361
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like, should I say real idea is

1362
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 4: or should I go back to being like a bimbo

1363
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 4: with huge him boo?

1364
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 3: That's what the real idea and that's what the real idea. Okay.

1365
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 4: Communication is always thought of as being inherently like virtuous. Yes,

1366
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, which again, it should be good communication,

1367
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 4: Like just communicating itself isn't good, But like therapy buzzwords

1368
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 4: is like, you communicated, so I deserve a Pulitzer prize.

1369
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, many people communicate badly and over communicate,

1370
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 3: and so it's like you don't deserve a parade because

1371
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 3: you said stuff? Yes, does that make that that makes

1372
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: complete sense?

1373
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: No? I do think there's there is a an epidemic

1374
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: of over communication currently and it needs to be stopped.

1375
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: You know what, This reminds me of someone taking somebody communication,

1376
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: which is basically morally neutral, and making it a good

1377
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 2: It reminds me of the era when I lived in

1378
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: San Francisco and it was like in the middle of

1379
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 2: the tech boom, it was all about quote unquote changing

1380
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 2: the world. Now, changing the world is a completely neutral statement.

1381
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: You can change it for the better or you can

1382
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 2: change it for the worst. Totally dropping a bomb is

1383
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,959
Speaker 2: changing the world. Yes, so, and you start to feel

1384
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: insane because you are like you start hearing these people

1385
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 2: that are like, well, above all, we want to change

1386
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: the world, and.

1387
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 3: You're like, how how Yeah, it's an amazing that's a

1388
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: fire take. I'm fine reacting that take. Agree, Okay, okay, okay.

1389
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 4: George and I sometimes play this Sam when you're not there,

1390
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 4: but we're first thinking about you, and.

1391
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: I can't believe you guys are just hang out. Like

1392
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: as far as I know you guys have your meeting

1393
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: for the second time today.

1394
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: I want you to know every time I'm with someone else,

1395
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 2: I feel guilty.

1396
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: This is so messed up. You have moved on it's dark.

1397
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: Okay, what do we do when we hang up?

1398
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 3: I'm oh, okay.

1399
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 4: So when we're talking about monoculture. One of the first

1400
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 4: times we hung out was like we're playing the game

1401
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 4: with like, what is monoculture?

1402
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: Now?

1403
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 4: Yes, And I used to think Subway takes is monoculture.

1404
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 4: I'm always bringing it up on stage, and no one

1405
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 4: knows what I'm talking about. But I think I'm being

1406
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 4: like one hundred percent agree.

1407
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,439
Speaker 2: No one knows. That's fascinating, especially in New York.

1408
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 3: No one knows. I'm like unrelated. Maybe the joke is bad.

1409
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: No, that's not it. That's enough of a reference that

1410
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: like people will chuckle just to I recognize what you're saying.

1411
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 3: But it's interesting what is monoculture?

1412
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 4: Because I really think right now the only thing that's

1413
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 4: monoculture is Domingo on us and now.

1414
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 2: Because that shout out to agree and I don't. Do

1415
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 2: you think hot ones is monoculture? Just to go into

1416
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: like more inner stuff.

1417
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 3: I do think that is.

1418
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: I think of all of them, that's the most monoculture.

1419
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 3: What about chicken shot, No, that's niche. It's not.

1420
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: It's niche because because British and also because it's more

1421
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 2: for it's more for girls.

1422
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Well that's the whole thing of Brooklyn.

1423
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 3: Not comedy just means you're a woman or gay. Yeah. Yeah.

1424
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 3: And do you have any contributions to monoculture? Sam? Yeah?

1425
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 3: Like what is Yeah?

1426
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: Oh I think Joe Rogan is monoculture. I also think

1427
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: like Netflix in general is monoculture. Yes, Netflix is, because

1428
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: like that's monoculture in the classic way. It's like network

1429
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: shows where you're like this, like this is horrible, and

1430
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: yet four billion people watched this.

1431
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 3: That's true.

1432
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 4: That's actually vintage because it's like this is a bad

1433
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 4: show that we all know about everyone.

1434
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: Everyone knows too and a half men. That's just everyone

1435
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: knows too and a half men.

1436
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,959
Speaker 4: There's also like the cult like that this is old

1437
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 4: Like the riddle where the doctor is a woman is monoculture.

1438
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 3: That's true. All of us know. That's true.

1439
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: That's the only monoculture we have.

1440
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: Wow. Well it's also like that is oral storytelling is Wow.

1441
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 2: It's actually like not only moniculture, but old fashion. It

1442
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: harkens back to like a preliterate age.

1443
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: Since we're doing gendered monoculture. Is call her daddy monoculture

1444
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: or no.

1445
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 3: You know, that's a tough one. I do think.

1446
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: Okay, is it for girls?

1447
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is it forenthes derogatory? No, I don't even worry

1448
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 3: for parentheses. Iss, that's tough.

1449
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: You know what, though, I actually think that it's for

1450
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 2: the fact that it appeals to straight women means that

1451
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: it is monoculture because their boyfriends also know about it.

1452
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 2: So it's like Sex and the City, but sex and

1453
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 2: City also appeals to gay people.

1454
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 3: That's true.

1455
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: Call her daddy does not appeal to gay people.

1456
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 3: Call her he doesn't appeal to gay people. Call her

1457
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 3: daddy is more like, call her daddy's straight culture to me, yeah, yeah, totally.

1458
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 3: I actually don't like.

1459
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 4: Straight culture is hard for me because I really don't

1460
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 4: have any straight friends, and I almost have no friends

1461
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 4: that are already even trans.

1462
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 3: Well sorry, I'm just saying everyone is so gay. You

1463
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: guys are mad at me. I think being friends with

1464
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 3: me does mean you might take hormones when no, for

1465
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 3: sure predictor yeah, well you're you're you know what.

1466
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: The right wing is sort of warning against your like

1467
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: you're like a teacher that seems that seems harmless, but

1468
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: you're literally making all your students trands.

1469
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 3: No absolutely, and I'm also making them all mentally ill. Yeah.

1470
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 4: I feel like there's a lot of people who it's like,

1471
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 4: if they bump into me at a party and they

1472
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 4: have no better options, they will talk to me.

1473
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 3: I'm an amazing like lighthouse in a storm.

1474
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 2: Well, you're good at you're good at I don't want

1475
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: to say small talking. It's not small. You're good at

1476
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 2: making conversation. Thank you so much, and that is rare.

1477
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 2: You know who else is good in a conversation? Macy Rodman.

1478
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 2: I was just telling this to Sam, like, it's like,

1479
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 2: you run into her, you know, it's not going to

1480
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: be this awkward like pulling teeth.

1481
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I think that's on the other person too. Though.

1482
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm like, because she'll be talking to somebody, I'm like,

1483
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 4: why is this going so poorly? And it's because you

1484
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 4: realize they ask no follow up questions. You say, how

1485
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 4: is your day and they say it was good.

1486
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: I have this guy who lives in la who I'm

1487
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: sort of obsessed with because he's actually the worst person

1488
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: I've ever talked to in my life, and I see

1489
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: him with relative frequency, and I like, he's such a

1490
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: horrible conversation person. That I'm starting to see him as

1491
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: like a performance artist, Like you'll literally be like, oh,

1492
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: this happened to me today, like something kind of momentous,

1493
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: like say, oh I got in a car crash today

1494
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: and just go okay, and it's like and then he

1495
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: stands next to you and adds nothing, and you're like,

1496
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: how did you get strong enough mentally to not need

1497
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: to respond to me? Like it's actually so groundbreaking and

1498
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: I want to learn from you.

1499
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, because I feel like I have to dance

1500
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 3: like a monkey.

1501
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could just like.

1502
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 3: Sit in it, in it.

1503
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: He sits in it big time.

1504
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 4: Well, I recent a devastating conversation like that, and I

1505
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 4: was talking to the girl, goes, I don't know what

1506
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 4: you're saying directly, She said, I don't watch vertical content.

1507
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: You got your ass?

1508
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 2: What were you talking about? Subway takes? You're going around

1509
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: You're literally going around town begging people to talk to

1510
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: about subway takes.

1511
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 3: I wrote this, I wrote this amazing story.

1512
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 2: You wrote sway takes, specscriper subway takes. You're addicted to

1513
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 2: writing specscripts and you need to stalk are like Kareem,

1514
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: but he's living with Monica and Chandler what he takes

1515
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 2: subway takes Bratt one hundred agree.

1516
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 4: No, she was like, basically, I think the way I talk.

1517
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 4: I hate when people act like what I'm saying is unclear. Yeah,

1518
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 4: Like one time I was trying to compliment this girl.

1519
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 4: I said you were you were Crushiana Grande and she said,

1520
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 4: are you being mean?

1521
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know what I said.

1522
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: You said this is like me trying to make fabulosa

1523
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: here your road happen and no one catching on. Damn,

1524
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 2: we were born in the wrong decade. And guess what

1525
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: the right decade the aughts when it was really cool

1526
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 2: to do wordplay like that. I know because the as

1527
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 2: was all about Rachel Zoe being like I die. That's

1528
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: my entire I think it'll come back. I think you

1529
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 2: guys are ahead of the curb. Honestly, thank you.

1530
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: That means so not to do we should do have

1531
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:39,879
Speaker 1: final segment.

1532
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 4: I know, I want us to add like you guys,

1533
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 4: and I'm like, we need to like you and me.

1534
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 4: We need to find a bipartisan solution. I need to

1535
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 4: reach across.

1536
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: No, we need to find Uh. I'm gonna follow you

1537
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: on Instagram as soon as this conversation is over. Oh

1538
01:08:53,360 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: my god, it's so complicated because it's like.

1539
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know where the bit starts around. No,

1540
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 3: he's being dead serious.

1541
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: I'm being dead serious. I don't think about that, you know,

1542
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: I know, I know what you mean.

1543
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 3: I know what you mean.

1544
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're right it would if I would, I

1545
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 1: would want to be followed as well.

1546
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 3: Wait, by the way, I didn't even check. I just

1547
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 3: said that to be fine. I don't even know if

1548
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 3: you do check. Wait. That isn't insane, it's crazy. I

1549
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 3: did that as a hilarious bit. Wait. I feel that

1550
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 3: way too, because Instagram is a scary place for me.

1551
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 3: I follow you up.

1552
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 2: Do you think news that is being such a classic

1553
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: girl and that you're lying.

1554
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: And I'm being such a classic boy and accepting it

1555
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: as truth?

1556
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:43,879
Speaker 3: Exactly?

1557
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 2: This dynamic is toxic and we had to call ORNA

1558
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: is so bad for the women's movement.

1559
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 3: This is your Actually you have I did a false accusation.

1560
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: I can't believe you did a false accusation on Australia Lab.

1561
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: This is so little wild.

1562
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,839
Speaker 2: I've never this is setting us back decades.

1563
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 3: I can see it on your faces. I'm really sorry, No,

1564
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 3: I'm really disappointed. You're not calling me out. You're calling

1565
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 3: you dragged.

1566
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 2: We're calling you out.

1567
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 3: I'm not calling me out.

1568
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 2: You're gonna go ahead, we're calling you out.

1569
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: I can't believe you dragged beloved podcast or me through

1570
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: the mud and my reputation just for a laugh.

1571
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 2: There are people that probably you know, didn't listen to

1572
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: the whole episode. They still think Sam was silencing.

1573
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: You know, they stopped. I'm gonna have to put a

1574
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: disclaim at the beginning of this episode and say just

1575
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: trust us. Everything that said is a lie.

1576
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm gonna make this right. I'm gotta make this right.

1577
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 3: Mark my words. Flight to La today.

1578
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 4: Wait, I am going to be in La soon because

1579
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 4: I'm from La. And so if you ever want to

1580
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 4: like me, I or Alec could be after a show

1581
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 4: where rebump into each other and you don't have better options,

1582
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 4: you guys.

1583
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: Can recreate our relationship.

1584
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 3: I would love I would love to talk in the

1585
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 3: corner of a bar.

1586
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: I would love to talk in the corner of a

1587
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: bar with you as well.

1588
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 2: See, and this is communication the good kind, unless you're lying, yeah,

1589
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 2: which we don't know which women love to do. The

1590
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: one thing we all agree on. The one thing we

1591
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 2: all agree on Women Live.

1592
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 3: That was my That was my topic that I brought

1593
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 3: to that. Yeah, pretty much, it's pretty much.

1594
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 4: Well, I'm doing a thing too where it's like I

1595
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 4: do something and then I pretend it's culture and it's like, girl,

1596
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 4: you just do that, that's not what everyone does.

1597
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: I do this with trend forecasting. I'm really like, Okay,

1598
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: what's in right now is wearing stripes, and it's like,

1599
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 1: just because I'm currently wearing stripes, it's I use my

1600
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 1: platform for evil sometimes, Tessa.

1601
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: Our final segment is called shout Outs, and in this segment,

1602
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,560
Speaker 2: we pay homage to the grand straight tradition of the

1603
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: radio shout out by shouting out something to your squad back.

1604
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: Home and I can go.

1605
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 2: I have one to George if okay, great, I actually

1606
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: you know I could. I can do too. Okay, what's up,

1607
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 2: comedy nerds, Charlie X six, I'm talking to you girl.

1608
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: I want to give a shout out to Lisa Kudro,

1609
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 2: the only woman with integrity in this town. I saw

1610
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 2: that the comeback was coming back. I said, this is

1611
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 2: the only reboot I can stand by because Lisa Kudru

1612
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: is one of the only creators in this town that

1613
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: actually does something right. And I know she would not

1614
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 2: bring something back just for a cash grab. She would

1615
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: bring it back because in her heart, in her soul,

1616
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: as a woman and as a creator, she has something

1617
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: new to say. And I feel in such good hands

1618
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: when I am in something that Lisa Kudro does. She

1619
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 2: is one of our top comedic actresses, along with Julia,

1620
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: Louis Dreyfus, Nissi Nash And.

1621
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 3: That's it.

1622
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: So write that down, jot that down, shout out to

1623
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 2: the comeback, shoutouts Lisa Kudro, and I just want to

1624
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 2: say shout out to Lily Morada for giving me this

1625
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: polo that I'm more amazing.

1626
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1627
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: I feel like it's not exactly my style, but it

1628
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: is a challenge for me to pull it off, and

1629
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 2: I think the more I wear it, the more I'm

1630
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 2: pulling it off. And so I love having hand me

1631
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 2: down from badass LGBTQ plus creator.

1632
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: No, Lily and I have the exact same sense of

1633
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: style and I'm addicted to it. Yea, I okay, I'm

1634
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: gonna go ready. What's up? Freaks, losers and perverts? Around

1635
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: the globe. I of course first want to give a

1636
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 1: shout out to my dear friend JK. We don't know

1637
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 1: each other at Lord, congrats on the album. This will

1638
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: be out in a few This was this episode is

1639
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: going to be out way after the album comes out,

1640
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: but it needs to be said. I'm standing you hard.

1641
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: And my real shout out is I want to give

1642
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: a shout out to the guy who plays Cam on

1643
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: Modern Family. That's right. I've been watching Modern Family and

1644
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: Cam is such a good gay guy. He nails this

1645
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: fucking role and did you know that he's straight in

1646
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: real life? That is so wild and so groundbreaking because

1647
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 1: he does a gay thing and it's like not offensive.

1648
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: He nails it like it really is shocking to my

1649
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 1: core how good he is at being this really specific

1650
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 1: type of gay guy in a way that is like,

1651
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: I don't know who you were watching for like years

1652
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: to learn how to do this affectation, but you are eating,

1653
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: you are nailing. And I think more streak guys should

1654
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: play gay if they're gonna do it like that, because

1655
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: that is the most realistic thing I've ever fucking seen

1656
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: in my life. Shout out to Cam XRXL love you

1657
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 1: Lord XOXL.

1658
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 3: Sam.

1659
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: Who wait, Sam, I'm is this illegitimate mind meld? Do

1660
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 2: you remember two months ago I posted cam is the

1661
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 2: single best comedic performance of the twenty first I legitimately

1662
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: like two months ago I was doing a Modern Family

1663
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,560
Speaker 2: rewatch and I posted a like a photo of my

1664
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: screen and I said, this is the single best comedy.

1665
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: This is a mind meld. I recently Misha was like,

1666
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: what if you watch Modern Family before going to bed?

1667
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, And so I've just been

1668
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: enjoying I it is Genie.

1669
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 2: It's so good.

1670
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 3: It's so good.

1671
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 2: No, it actually like if you think that straight people

1672
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: shouldn't play gay roles, I dare you know?

1673
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 3: He's I the dare you to watch me? He is groundbreaking,

1674
01:14:58,240 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 3: It's wild.

1675
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 2: You know what I've heard about him? He fucks. Oh yeah,

1676
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 2: we're talking. There's just like a line of women in

1677
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 2: goes one, out goes the other. What he is one

1678
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,879
Speaker 2: of the most promiscuous men in Los Angeles.

1679
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 3: Wait, I mean I don't know.

1680
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 2: Maybe now he's married, but in his hated I love

1681
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 2: that ran through. Yeah No, he's not ran through. He's

1682
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 2: like a playboy.

1683
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: Let's use the proper language here.

1684
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 3: He's cool, don't no, no, no, no, no, he's like

1685
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 3: a role model to me.

1686
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 1: Well, I love to know that.

1687
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 2: I'm glad he's getting his God imagined me and I

1688
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: just teller Ferguson. Of course I've actually seen him on stage.

1689
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: But imagine sorry, being absolutely eaten up by the strake

1690
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 2: I playing your husband day in and day out.

1691
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 3: I can't.

1692
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: Can you imagine like getting off work being like okay,

1693
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: an off playing a gay guy, time to go eat

1694
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: puss all night?

1695
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1696
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: That is so groundbreaking.

1697
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 3: Do you think he says the f slur he's earned it?

1698
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 2: No, I don't he's earned it, But I don't think

1699
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: he does. I really think he leaves the homosexuality at work.

1700
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 3: He's not at all.

1701
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: He has never even contemplated like his thoughts on gay rights.

1702
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: He just it's like that's his job and then he

1703
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: goes home.

1704
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:18,839
Speaker 3: I believe he sued.

1705
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: It's amazing he's severed gay guy.

1706
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: He's in the elevator, and his change is that he

1707
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 2: becomes like more quaint and he's like, I.

1708
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: Mean, you're so right. It's something does come over him.

1709
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he's God.

1710
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: It's like Jeremy's strong level like you are a true

1711
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 2: actor that can embody a different person.

1712
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1713
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Jordan, I love that we're on the same

1714
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: page about that. Whenever you're ready asked.

1715
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 3: One question, for of course, how do I know when

1716
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 3: it's over? It's just when.

1717
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: When you've said everything you want to say?

1718
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: How do I know when the thing I'm saying is over?

1719
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 2: It's so legendary you.

1720
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: Know it's over. There's no time, it's just however long

1721
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:08,759
Speaker 1: you want to talk, kind.

1722
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 2: Of like what is you have?

1723
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 3: Got it? Got it? Got it? We're like, okay, hi,

1724
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 3: Stradio laboration.

1725
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do a minister shout out, like Sam, first,

1726
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 4: I really want to say congrats sore On for never

1727
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 4: got it primary.

1728
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 3: And you're fabulous.

1729
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 4: It's funny everyone keep saying we're living out but you're

1730
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 4: a socialist, but I do think it's I guess lived

1731
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 4: care to think electoral politics can save us. But congrats

1732
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 4: you ran an amazing campaign. And people also keeping like

1733
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 4: so he's on social media and that's what he wanted.

1734
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 4: It's like, well, he also has good ideas on social

1735
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 4: media and good game compel. No, he's fabulous, So that rocks,

1736
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 4: and my shout is going to be for yogurt places

1737
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 4: and frozen yogur places, and I know that's a period

1738
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 4: piece and people don't care about them anymore, but I always, okay,

1739
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 4: I don't even get the yogurt.

1740
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 3: I just get the toppings because sometimes I.

1741
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 4: Just want like one oreo and like a little bit

1742
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 4: of cookie dough and like two gumme worms. And there's

1743
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 4: no place I could get that that's cost effective except

1744
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 4: for a yogurt shop, and they're all really far away

1745
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 4: from where I live because they're out of fashion. But

1746
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 4: when I see what it means a lot to me

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Speaker 4: because I can get like like a fucked up little

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Speaker 4: scumpe of a topping, and.

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Speaker 3: I can get like one of each, like you can

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Speaker 3: get like a Swedish fish.

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01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 4: You can get a cookie, even sometimes you can get

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Speaker 4: cheesecake if you're like a total nasty friend.

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Speaker 3: So I really like those and I want them to

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Speaker 3: come back and with like more of them. So that's

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Speaker 3: I don't know when.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 3: What about a what about a candy shop?

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Speaker 4: I gotta go my Opersea, Well no, because they're always

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Speaker 4: selling them in big bad Yeah, it is less cost

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Speaker 4: the mixed types of foods like, I want a cookie

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Speaker 4: and I want a candy, and honestly, if I could

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Speaker 4: have my way, i'd have a dorito too.

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Speaker 1: You guys, imagine a drama about a family that they like,

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Speaker 1: they have a dream to start up a yogurt chop.

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Speaker 1: Finally they get enough money to do it, they open

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Speaker 1: up yogurt Chop, and then people are like, Yogurt's over. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then they just like have to like have their shop.

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Speaker 6: That's so sad that shit s creak, right, that's your

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Speaker 6: respect for shit screaks are writing.

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Speaker 3: My life is a writer. Your respect for shits creak

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Speaker 3: is yogurt based. They're so sad that Yogurtland is over. Party.

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01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: Yogurtland is over party.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And then Dan Levy's like the yogurt we made is

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Speaker 2: not what I wanted.

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Speaker 3: And then everyone's like Oscar, he's wearing a sweater and

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Speaker 3: everyone's like that's good.

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01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: That's a very good shout out.

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Speaker 2: Well, Testa, this has been an absolute a huge tree.

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Speaker 3: We'll follow you, yeah, please follow me.

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01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 4: Tessa Bell with four ls on Instagram And oh I

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Speaker 4: just made a short film that went to Tribecca so

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01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 4: we're gonna release it. So that would be really nice

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01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 4: if you can watch it, and even if you hate it.

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01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 3: And what is it called?

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01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 4: Oh, it's well sister, and it's basically the vibe is

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Speaker 4: It's not not Wicked. It's a story about a blond

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Speaker 4: and innet.

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Speaker 1: So it's a specscript for Wicked.

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Speaker 3: I'm working on some more stuff, so I'd love if

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Speaker 3: you would support.

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Speaker 2: It for I care about you, Dan Levy, if you're listening,

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Speaker 2: we got just the nineteen year old chicob elev Evoe

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Speaker 2: crazy elev eighteen voices.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for doing it. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: we could let our chemistry fly through the screen even Yes, Yay.

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