WEBVTT - ARE WE STILL KNEELING OR NAH?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Street Politicians. I and my son and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Tamika Mallory and we are happy to have you here

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in. Thanks for the support and love, and we

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<v Speaker 1>hope that every time you come to this podcast that

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<v Speaker 1>you get a little something that you can leave with

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<v Speaker 1>that you enjoy, that you learn a smile or laugh, educational,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, we're happy to have you out here. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Street Politicians is all about us learning together. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. So what's going on with you? Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>end of a decade and the beginning of a new one. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>some ship change, some ship hasn't. So it hasn't. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but personally, each one of us are actually

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<v Speaker 1>posted a meme um that said that living from January

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<v Speaker 1>to December is no joke and thanking God for keeping us,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping our minds, keeping our health, our spirits, our families.

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<v Speaker 1>So much is happening in the world and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we keep living every day with all the challenges

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<v Speaker 1>is a blessing. Got Trump being leaving the White House?

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<v Speaker 1>How about that I saw? I mean today, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even a meme, It was a tweet from Mike Huckabee

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<v Speaker 1>ran for president, former governor Mike Now I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's still governor. Uh. And he was talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>he's been selected as the whole store the chair of

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<v Speaker 1>the committee to had to re elect Trump for a

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<v Speaker 1>third term because the Democrats are you know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>illegal what they're doing, and it's wrong, and impeachment is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's unfair and it was a witch

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<v Speaker 1>hunt and all this stuff, and you know, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have been saying for a while that you know, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Bloomberg did it in New York and this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most uh you know, the most powerful

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<v Speaker 1>cities in the world, and he did it here where

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<v Speaker 1>he extended his term. His term limits was two terms,

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<v Speaker 1>so that would have been eight years, and when it

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<v Speaker 1>was getting towards the end of the second term, he

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<v Speaker 1>was able to get the city Council to vote for

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<v Speaker 1>a third term, which of course the city council members

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<v Speaker 1>were also able to be in office for a third term.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is mayor wanted to stay for a third

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<v Speaker 1>term because he said that, you know, the city needed him,

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<v Speaker 1>that he was doing so much economically and turning the

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<v Speaker 1>city around, and you know all that. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I know from council members that I was friends with,

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<v Speaker 1>that there was a lot of pain in the decisions

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<v Speaker 1>that they made. There was you know, there were people

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<v Speaker 1>who knew personal background stuff about those folks and was

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<v Speaker 1>like literally coming to them saying, you better vote for uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this extension this, you know, the term limits to be

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<v Speaker 1>lifted if you will based upon that's like putting your

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<v Speaker 1>public your your personal business and public. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say that they were black male because well listen, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to be suited by the Bloomberg said people

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<v Speaker 1>were black men exactly. And Trump ain't leaving the White House. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, you never know. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to leave. The man has for him to

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<v Speaker 1>cool and you're looking at one of posts on my page,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to his three fifty seven is making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that nothing happens to Trump. You know, if people try

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<v Speaker 1>to impeach him, he's going to be civil war. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I've been saying that for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's running the White House like the mafia, Like he

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<v Speaker 1>really like a mab boss. So it's not pass him.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when he doesn't feel like he wants to leave,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see the reason why he would. He has

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<v Speaker 1>to Trump is a gangster man. He is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able because you know what, so is Nancy Pelosi.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and and you know AUNTI Maxine is up in

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<v Speaker 1>there like, oh he think he I'm definitely exactly so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I'm not a big fan of like

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<v Speaker 1>any of them, Pelosi, I mean, obviously anti Maxine, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big fan of avideo of them. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do know that what Pelosi has done is something

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump tried. He tried everything that he could to

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<v Speaker 1>really be like threaten her without like calling her out

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<v Speaker 1>her name, but damn near, he was really trying to

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<v Speaker 1>intimidate her in the media, even in person, and she

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<v Speaker 1>still went forward with the impeachment because the man is

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<v Speaker 1>a trader. He's a trader. His behavior, his behavior is

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<v Speaker 1>treason us and really he should have been impeached a

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago. But hey, we are where we are,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's that we were. I haven't. I really literally

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<v Speaker 1>refused to get myself deep into the impeachment proceedings and

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<v Speaker 1>watching everything because what I think is more important than

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<v Speaker 1>the sensationalism of what's happening in this moment is us

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on getting our people ready for to money twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even talking about registering the vote. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about mentally, like folks need to know how serious

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<v Speaker 1>it is for them to be in the game and

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<v Speaker 1>for them to be able to understand everything that's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you do you think is gonna benefit us

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<v Speaker 1>or it's gonna be negative? I think you damned if

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<v Speaker 1>you do, damned if you don't. I think that no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what, the people are losing in this moment because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't see anybody running the government like

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<v Speaker 1>the government. I don't even know what the government does

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<v Speaker 1>because everything I hear is we lose food stamps, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the children being separated. The young man died in the

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<v Speaker 1>jail just last week. Actually, yandy Um. She sent me

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of like a clip of the young man

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<v Speaker 1>falling out in his cell. He had the flu, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was another person in the cell as well, under

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<v Speaker 1>those like silver blankets or whatever he was. He is

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<v Speaker 1>in there as well. They had they quarantined them, put

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<v Speaker 1>them in the cell, and the boy died. That's he

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<v Speaker 1>fell out and died like a teenager. But those things

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<v Speaker 1>are not they're just so common being formally incarcerated. I

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<v Speaker 1>know so many people who have passed from similar circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>If it wasn't from somebody beating them, it was just

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<v Speaker 1>lack of taking care of their health for them being

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<v Speaker 1>put into the box and then just left isolated, not

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<v Speaker 1>fed properly. So those are common things. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>told about one of of the friends I have that incarcerated.

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<v Speaker 1>They're supposed to start putting the body cams on the offices.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they started. I think he said that somebody would.

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<v Speaker 1>But they only use it. They only, excuse me, they

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<v Speaker 1>only use it when, like there's an incident, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like all day they were in it. But when

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<v Speaker 1>somebody pulls a pain and they says the incident and

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<v Speaker 1>they have to go and deal with one of the prisoners,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to show the camera. That's what he was telling. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because the camera's that's all around, I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to show you what's going on, and

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<v Speaker 1>somehow for years and years and years, that doesn't really work.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, because they put him in blind. If you

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<v Speaker 1>look at what they put them, they put them right

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<v Speaker 1>outside that you can see in front of the celle

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<v Speaker 1>you can't in yourself unless they have to. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>do it all the time, and nobody gets to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've just seen one online the other day where

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<v Speaker 1>a guy was getting processed. They walked him in the

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<v Speaker 1>sale next to you know, he comes out limping, his

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<v Speaker 1>eyes all beat up. Then nobody shows how it happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but they just showed they came beat up. Say that's

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<v Speaker 1>some of the stuff that has not changed, right, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>in this new decade. Um, let me see what else

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<v Speaker 1>has happened to Michael Vick. I mean, he's getting this

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity which we were saying is an award, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's no, it's an honor. It's not a reward.

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<v Speaker 1>It's um he's been he's been voted as one of

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<v Speaker 1>the captains for the Pro Bowl. So that's like when

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<v Speaker 1>you have legendary status, they choose you as whinning captains.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Vic pretty much revolutionary, I mean revolutionized the quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of the first um multi talented running

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<v Speaker 1>back slash quarterbacks who ran for a bunch of yards.

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<v Speaker 1>So he had this kind of you know, multi task

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<v Speaker 1>that he was able to do as a quarterback, which

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<v Speaker 1>prior to him wasn't being done. The quarterback was primarily

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<v Speaker 1>the person who threw the ball, handed the ball off.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't a runner, and he revolutionary revolutionized, no revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the words definitely makes it's not I just know

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<v Speaker 1>how to make vocabulary evolved. Whatever you gotta help, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta make because we can't keep using the same and

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<v Speaker 1>that we gotta we gotta evolve. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>means using words in the English. Yeah, that's the word

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionary word, I know that, but but you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. I would pull one up for you

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<v Speaker 1>when you made up a whole word. It worked though,

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<v Speaker 1>so usually have the route that's the word anyway. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's a there was a petition had over four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand signatures on it from people who said they

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<v Speaker 1>did not want him to be honored. When you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>is really more so positioning like him being recognized as

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<v Speaker 1>the captain and the bowl and then him there, so

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much I don't think people knew that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the way I think the way the media said

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<v Speaker 1>he's being honored, folks signed it thinking he was about

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<v Speaker 1>to stand up and get some you know, special But

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<v Speaker 1>if that's but if that's what they did, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying that that's what people were reacting. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of folks understood exactly what was happening. Common

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<v Speaker 1>sense ain't that comment or more? And people don't even

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<v Speaker 1>They just want to grab onto social media and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to attack things. You know, Michael Vick was did

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<v Speaker 1>his he served his time for his infraction, you know

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<v Speaker 1>with the dog fighting situation, and he did his time,

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<v Speaker 1>he paid his fines, he came out, he's been he's

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<v Speaker 1>an apology tour. He's been an advocate against you know,

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<v Speaker 1>animal rights, I mean for against for for animal rights

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<v Speaker 1>like he's been. He's been doing his job. So for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to make a statement or sign a petition to

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<v Speaker 1>stop him from being anything, getting honored or being an

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<v Speaker 1>honorary captain, it's just ludicrous to me. And it's like

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<v Speaker 1>when when do you pay your debts to society? Like

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<v Speaker 1>what what does rehabilitation look like? So you know jewels,

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<v Speaker 1>you know jewels. How Julianne who works with us, she's

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<v Speaker 1>a white woman and she is one of our allies.

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<v Speaker 1>We rather call her an accomplice. She's more than an

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<v Speaker 1>she's assistant these our sisters. She's down with us, working

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<v Speaker 1>with us in the struggle. So I happen to turn

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook, you know, open up Facebook, and the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing that popped up was that she was up there

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<v Speaker 1>with her her her She was basically promoting the petition

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<v Speaker 1>asking people to sign the petition against Michael Vick. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Jules loves her dog, just very serious dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Like her dog is like the whole person. And I

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<v Speaker 1>understand she loves her dog, but I had to I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote to her, to Jules, the question that I have

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<v Speaker 1>for you right like, you know, being a part of

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<v Speaker 1>our movement, she is often around people, particularly black men

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<v Speaker 1>who are formerly incarcerated, who who or who may have

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<v Speaker 1>killed someone, who may have hurt another person. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she's been around all these people, and we support all

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<v Speaker 1>of us together. The idea here that these black men,

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<v Speaker 1>black and brown men who are entering society again should

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<v Speaker 1>be that their time is up, they've done their time,

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<v Speaker 1>and that if they're being honored for turning their lives around,

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<v Speaker 1>for helping young people for whatever, that you support that,

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<v Speaker 1>And I asked, so you support that you support this

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<v Speaker 1>These men who may have killed another black man, may

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<v Speaker 1>have hurt someone you support them being acknowledged for turning

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<v Speaker 1>their lives around after serving their time. She's and of

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<v Speaker 1>course she agrees with that, and like, you can't be

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<v Speaker 1>okay with that and then say, but you can't be

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<v Speaker 1>honored for killing a dog because that puts more value

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<v Speaker 1>on the dog's life than another black man. And we

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<v Speaker 1>specifically support something called the Time Done Campaign, which our

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<v Speaker 1>brother Jay Jordan's is the executive director of an organization

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<v Speaker 1>in California that has this Time Done campaign that really

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<v Speaker 1>talks is specifically designed to deal with at that when

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<v Speaker 1>you come home from prison, when a person comes from

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<v Speaker 1>from prison, there are too many barriers for folks being

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<v Speaker 1>able to into society and do work and be productive citizens.

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<v Speaker 1>And you support that. And she's a great supporter, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, but she came back just to be clear

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<v Speaker 1>after she thought about it, she said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right And now she's like the biggest advocate online.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's the thing about being an airline and accomplice

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<v Speaker 1>and someone who leads in love is that when you

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<v Speaker 1>see when somebody gives you the truth or somebody is

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<v Speaker 1>able to change your mind honestly based on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>facts and and based on really just sitting you down

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<v Speaker 1>and walking you through something and you're able to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I made a mistake or now I

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<v Speaker 1>see it your way. That's what it is about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because we can just argue just for the sake of

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<v Speaker 1>arguing all day. So, like I put out a post

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<v Speaker 1>also about Michael Vick situation, I was just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the comparison to him and ray Lewis, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people give me flat, you know, and I understand

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<v Speaker 1>he was one of the people. And for me it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like understanding. Like you said, like Michael Vick

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<v Speaker 1>killed the dogs. Let me change that Michael Vick was

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<v Speaker 1>was he was found guilty or he pled guilty to

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<v Speaker 1>having um something to do with the dog fighting ring.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't know, facilitate, facilitated, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he was okay, I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that his father exactly said that this

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<v Speaker 1>is his thing, fighting dogs. But even if it was

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<v Speaker 1>in a house that belonged to him, that's still facilitates.

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<v Speaker 1>So he facilitated. But what I was saying was ray

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis was involved in a situation which led to the

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<v Speaker 1>death of two black men, and he pled guilty to

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<v Speaker 1>a lesser charge which was associated with it there for

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<v Speaker 1>the two black men. So I was in, we're okay

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<v Speaker 1>with a black man who kills a black man or

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<v Speaker 1>is responsible or any way has a connection to the

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<v Speaker 1>death of two black men, but we're not okay with

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<v Speaker 1>the black man who is connected to the death of dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it just shows to me that the

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<v Speaker 1>black man's life is less valuable in America's us, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was my argument. A lot of people, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people seen in my way, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people, you know, then there was you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>was this discourse and it's but my only issue was

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<v Speaker 1>that I just felt like I didn't I hate us

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<v Speaker 1>even having to talk about what another black man has

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<v Speaker 1>or has not done, when there's so much that white

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<v Speaker 1>folks have done. But I want and if not ever,

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<v Speaker 1>but I get your point. You made me understand your

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<v Speaker 1>position that you know, basically, there's two different black men

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<v Speaker 1>with two different scenarios, but one is responsible for the

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<v Speaker 1>death of dogs and the other one that's responsible potentially

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<v Speaker 1>or involved somehow in the killing of a man. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same organization and the hypocrisy because he was

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<v Speaker 1>being just voted was one of the top one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>players two weeks ago, so nobody there was no petition.

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<v Speaker 1>If there was, please show me how to see a

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<v Speaker 1>petition at all for somebody to say that he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>deserve it. So you know that this is hypocrisi out

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<v Speaker 1>and now he's gonna and that's that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Good looking. The NFL did something good. They did something good.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a lot of other stuff, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that is it that I'm verily,

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<v Speaker 1>like really concerned about. So you know, like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>getting myself caught up into impeachment stuff right because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't take it. You know, I get mad. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>yelling at the TV and calling everybody and saying we

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<v Speaker 1>need a march and a protest. But I am paying

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<v Speaker 1>attention to as I said, nobody doing work in the government.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of our cabinet members are acting like none of

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<v Speaker 1>them are actually confirmed cabinet members. He really is running,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, the government like the mafia because he

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<v Speaker 1>knows that the loophole is having everyone is acting cabinet

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<v Speaker 1>members because he can't get people confirmed, which means that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a vote with the House and then and they

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed exactly. You still getting paid for him, so he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need confirmed. But but the reason why it's important

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<v Speaker 1>for these people to be confirmed is because it gives

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<v Speaker 1>the American public and opportunity to see through the hearings

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<v Speaker 1>and other things, who these individuals. We know what's important

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<v Speaker 1>to us to him, and then and then the people

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<v Speaker 1>that we put an office get an opportunity to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he has he has that process and he

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<v Speaker 1>has all these people acting. So so this guy William Barr,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the acting Attorney General, which means he is the

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<v Speaker 1>top cop in the country. He was speaking to a

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<v Speaker 1>group which include law enforcement officers, which included law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement officers, and he started talking about how when veterans

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<v Speaker 1>come home from war, they are they're acknowledged their parades

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<v Speaker 1>when out. And there's a lot of veterans that would

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with that, let's be clear, but you know, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much love for veterans coming home and good

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, but police officers are not treated the same,

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<v Speaker 1>and that he we certain communities, certain communities, people need

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<v Speaker 1>to start respecting police officers because if not, we may

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<v Speaker 1>find ourselves being, you know, left without protection. Our communities

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<v Speaker 1>may be left without protection. That is absolutely crazy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not because the problem with this whole situation with Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and bar and all these things is these people are

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<v Speaker 1>just seeing things that have been happening. You understand I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you hear Trump spewards rhetoric and people like yo,

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<v Speaker 1>you heard what he said, this is what America has been.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what they've been thinking. When you hear William

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<v Speaker 1>Barr said what he says, it's what the police been doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They either over police our communities to where they make

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<v Speaker 1>us just um criminals. They don't come in there to

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<v Speaker 1>help and really say protect and serve. They've never done that.

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<v Speaker 1>So ultimately, this is why the king stopped killing King's

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<v Speaker 1>model and raising King's model that I've created. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to be needed in our society. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to get back to police, to um community police,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to get back to the men in

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<v Speaker 1>the community and the women in the community coming to

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<v Speaker 1>hand in hand and being in unison and being able

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<v Speaker 1>to dictate what goes on the community so we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to call police because we see what having when

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<v Speaker 1>the police come to our communities. They either harm someone

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<v Speaker 1>who called for help. Um, you know, mentally ill people

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<v Speaker 1>being shot down in their own homes that call when

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<v Speaker 1>somebody calls to help them, they're being killed, you know police.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean kids are being handcuffed and beat up on

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<v Speaker 1>the corners for walking down the block because they quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote fit descriptions. So the bottom line is we have

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<v Speaker 1>to get back to that mine. Anyway. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>tell Mr Ball thank you, because what that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>do is call us to start commute. I mean, police

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<v Speaker 1>in our own community is gonna call us to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more responsible. It's gonna call us to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more unified and look to each other for

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<v Speaker 1>solutions before we call these people into our communities that

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<v Speaker 1>are just throwing our kids in jail or hurting and

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<v Speaker 1>killing them. So I say thank you. Let's like I

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<v Speaker 1>said thank you the Trump. I told you these people

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<v Speaker 1>were needed. I didn't I knew that any other president

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<v Speaker 1>but Trump was gonna have us sit around for a

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<v Speaker 1>few years and be like, look we did something. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>look Hillary is here, the first woman. While we did something.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that's happened. Ain't nothing happening in America? And Trump

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<v Speaker 1>just lets you see that America has been racist, It's

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<v Speaker 1>been directed at us. White supremacy has always been the

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<v Speaker 1>mantra of America, and now you get to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you hear these people say the things, and

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<v Speaker 1>you hear the people talk them out. If Trump is impeach,

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be civil war, and you hear the bars saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the police are gonna stop doing if certain communities don't

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<v Speaker 1>respect them. It gives you the reality and the route

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<v Speaker 1>awakening that people in our communities, the people in our

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<v Speaker 1>communities need to wake up and start governing their themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, okay, first of all, I think that yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there are problems with police and community, absolutely, but generally

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<v Speaker 1>police officers go to work, to do their job, go home.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to have issues. There are the bad cops,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, and the good cops that there and

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<v Speaker 1>watch it happen, so we can classify them all together.

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<v Speaker 1>Because unless you are and Edwin Raymond or one of

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, or the officers who are considered whistle

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<v Speaker 1>blowers or people who really stand up within the department,

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<v Speaker 1>you are part of the problem. But most police officers

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<v Speaker 1>do try to do their job every day, and unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>they work within a system that if they they facilitate

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<v Speaker 1>their job the ways in which they're being trained, it

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<v Speaker 1>means they're either over policing or under police and our people.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you about that thousand percent. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I still think when you are in they uh not

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<v Speaker 1>an elected official. But when you are representing the country, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're the top cop, You're the person that

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<v Speaker 1>is setting the tone for what happens in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot say things like that. It incites tension on

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<v Speaker 1>both sides of the owl. It puts police in danger,

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<v Speaker 1>and it puts communities in danger because now you basically

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<v Speaker 1>are telling us that if we hold the protest then

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<v Speaker 1>and then the police can just come in and do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they want to us, or they can hurt us.

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<v Speaker 1>Then our response to that is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>visceral response. It's not good. So I just I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's wrong. I think the rhetoric is extremely dangerous. I

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<v Speaker 1>do agree with you that there has to be a

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<v Speaker 1>movement to take care of our own communities. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that we can use the words police. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we do need different languages or Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we do need to evolve the language. We have to.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to find a different way words. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to make up a word because we have to find

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<v Speaker 1>a way because we're policing, policing, policing the stigma and

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<v Speaker 1>the negativity attached to that world. It doesn't even fit

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<v Speaker 1>what that want. Yeah, we we do got to find

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<v Speaker 1>a different way to be able to describe what it

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<v Speaker 1>is that we need to do. And I do think

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<v Speaker 1>the Kings Stopped Killing Kings movement is so important because

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<v Speaker 1>what you're basically doing is taking madis into your own

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<v Speaker 1>hands and get and you have so many community partners

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<v Speaker 1>where across the country people are like, we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>out and work on kings to stop the killing in

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<v Speaker 1>their own communities, which would give us right, which right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's right. It's a culture shift. It's not just about shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just even though we do work on those

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<v Speaker 1>efforts as well, but it's not about that. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>culture shift. And even queens and a lot of women

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<v Speaker 1>are involved in helping people who gender nonconforming for are

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<v Speaker 1>involved because they understand the importance of like when the

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 1>men in our community are healthy, when when we have

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<v Speaker 1>a king's mindset, then it lends itself to a more

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<v Speaker 1>positive space. But if people don't need to come to

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<v Speaker 1>our communities to lock us up and to have so

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<v Speaker 1>much contact with the men in blue, right, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing that we have to be able to create,

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<v Speaker 1>is a model for how people can take care of

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<v Speaker 1>their own communities as we always have. We always have.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, in New York there was a police slowdown

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<v Speaker 1>over some issue. I don't remember what it was, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were piste off with everybody for what people were protesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The police might have been around stopping frisk um. And

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<v Speaker 1>the data showed that when police when their efforts decrease,

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<v Speaker 1>crime went down. Because I think again, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>something to be said about people feeling like folks are

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<v Speaker 1>in your commun and don't really necessarily have your best

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>interests at heart. Just thinking about even in Queens, they

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<v Speaker 1>have these big the towers where police officers are near

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<v Speaker 1>the parks and everything and they're watching everything that's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet a fourteen year old boy was shot to

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<v Speaker 1>death right next to the towers, like literally where this

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<v Speaker 1>microphone is over the park, and a little boy was

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<v Speaker 1>shot in the park, shot dead. Basketball player I guess

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<v Speaker 1>he was, you know, shooting his last shot and he

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<v Speaker 1>he so what is the point. They're not doing anything?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm saying. That's why we have to

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<v Speaker 1>take matters back into our own hands. Yeah, no, we

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely do. We do. We do. Um which And then

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<v Speaker 1>this week, I mean when you talk about like changing

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<v Speaker 1>the culture, the whole issue around this guy Juice World,

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>who I've never heard of. Then again, there was a

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 1>song on the radio and then I was like, oh man,

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 1>I kind of like that he has. He has some

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>good music. M young boy, one years of age, um D.

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 1>They are different accounts why it happened, but it's been

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>common knowledge that he was advoct and excessive user of

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Lean quote unquote quoting that these kids are taken in perks,

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 1>and you know, his music reflected that. Talked about it.

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 1>He talked about how artists such as Future influenced him

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:23.879
<v Speaker 1>from his mixtape, the Dirty Sprite Mixtape, which he heard

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 1>when he was only eleven years old, and he was

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>inspired and wanted to sibling. Like he said, he just

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be on Lean and you know, and I

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>just and I had a conversation about someone about this,

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:38.239
<v Speaker 1>and I was like this culture of drug culture, you know,

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>which also has been a culture of the suicide culture.

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Like if you listen to the music, there's so much

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:48.640
<v Speaker 1>pain and drug usage, and people are saying, all these

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>kids are over they just medicated because they're deal with

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>pain and trauma. And you know, I understand understand being

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>young and being confused, and I understand just looking at

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 1>social media. Social media is doing so much damage to

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>these kids because they're trying to live a life that

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>is not even attainable, because the life that is being

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>shown to them is not But it's even worse when

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>when you're young and you're trying to figure something out

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and you think you're supposed to you see somebody's best

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>sixty seconds of their life, and you're looking at their

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.919
<v Speaker 1>best sixty seconds and you're judging your whole life by that,

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>not knowing that they didn't prop this and put this

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 1>money here, and they took a picture in front of

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>his camera and they put this background here, and you're

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>saying that, why is my life not like this? And

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, and these kids have been program that this

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>perks in this lean and this drug culture is something

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>to you know, the aspired to and then you know

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely going first aired. They are listening. If you

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>listen to the interview that I put on my page

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that Juice Worrey. We're talking about the way he felt

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>when he listened to Futures Dirty s Bright mixtape and

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>he was like, yo, I couldn't wait. I was like, yeah,

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>gotta get me some lean your ways of that. Like

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 1>he said, I was a basketball player, I was a

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 1>good in sports and all that, but as soon as

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I heard that, I want I just wanted to sit lean.

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to get hot. But people said you

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>was a hater when you talked about Future because that's

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>the person, that's the thing that's been glorified. You know,

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 1>Futures quote unquote this megastar and hip hop. So when

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 1>you talk against the megastar, you know that when you

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>go against the status quo on the trend, everybody's gonna

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>say you hate because you don't got what you got.

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>So you're just mad. You want to shoot him down,

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and there's nothing about that. This is another black man.

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy that he's able to escape poverty and able

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>to feed his family and provide beyond the means that

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>then most of the people in our community, and I'm

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>happy for him, but not on the backs, not on

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>the you know, not at the expense of our children,

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>not feeding our kids poison. If that's what it's gonna

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>take for you to attain some level of monetary wealth,

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think it's worth it, and not for

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>me anyway, So I've always not even necessary. It's not

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>because you already here at this point, you know. And

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the future said, did you respond?

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I think he said I'm sorry or whatever, but it

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, in response to him, it wasn't

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.959
<v Speaker 1>so much of him. But I just think at some

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>point you have to do more than just do a

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>little interview saying yeah, I said this and this and that.

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I think at some point you what I said, Oh yeah,

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I know I said that because he's done interviews saying yeah,

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I've taken lean or haven't taken Lean. I don't even

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>take lean. I used to. I don't do it no more.

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>But I can't say that to the people because then,

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, my following is gonna stop following me because

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what they believe I do. And when you when

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>that's how you feel, that's ignorant. You know it's it's

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>it's terribly ignorant, and you you miss leading and miss

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>gud and these kids so that you can make a

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>couple of dollars. So I'm never I'm gonna be okay

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>with that. I always speak against that. And if that's

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>what's called the hater, then I'm okay with the hater.

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>We know you're okay with the hater title because you're

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>always going against, always going against, said is quote man.

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>But it's sad when you look at what the drug

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>is a culture of drugs. It is definitely before we

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>people are smoking a little weed in and now when

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>you talk about these pills, they're popping pills like it.

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>But I saw I think it was Charlemagne and Amanda

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Stills talking about how it's deepening just taking drugs right like,

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>like you said, the pain that people are suffering, what

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>folks are going through every day, and and I think

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you're right, Like when as I'm sitting here really processing

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>your statement, it probably is that folks are even no

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>matter how successful they are, they're still trying to get

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>to some mystified place. When when when I think of

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>hip hop of our time, like the Queen Latifa, hip

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>hop time, the Woutang clan. I feel like maybe weed

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>because when you think about Wu Tang, there was a

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of weed. But I don't know if people were

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>like taking that much medication, just taking anything. But did

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you make it? Not saying that they weren't doing it

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>because there was always drug used, Like was the thing

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that that under the table if you was somebody that

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>had some level of money and status, people would you know?

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 1>They they called a little cocaine and they did it whatever.

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't put in music to where it was glorified.

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Was personal, personal thing that they did. It wasn't trying

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to make kids. I don't know because I didn't hear

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>it exactly. You find out if you was in the

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>circle of people you finally do you're doing that? You know?

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>And it was it was never glorified. But they were

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>saying Mary Jane. I didn't know Mary Jane was about

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>weed and until I got Mary Jane or something. But

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>we weed was glorified because just like right now, we

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>just damn the illegal, so we understand the different levels.

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Like you ain't finding people overdosing on weed. You know what,

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I was walking around acting like they over what the

0:31:56.120 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>reality situation is that these pills and personally is killing

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>because um, major League Baseball they decided to treat marijuana

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>like alcohol. This week they said they're no longer going

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>to test for marijuana because they're trying to get to

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.479
<v Speaker 1>the opioid abuse like that. And you know, and I

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>read a story the other day that said, we need

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>to stop acting like opioids is just the white people problem. Yes,

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>it's being treated different. So there's a disparity and the

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 1>hypocrisy around how they treated crack versus um. You know

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>now how they're treating opioid abuse. So we know that,

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>but in terms of understanding the issue, the seriousness of

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>the issue, all our people are caught up in it.

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And it's all ages. It's you know, young people. I

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>had a cousin contacted me the other day telling me

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>that she needs, you know, twenty dollars. I'm like, what

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>what do you need twenty five dollars for? And then

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>it it clicked for me. She just need a few

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>pills to be able to get by. That's very serious.

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>It is. It is extremely serious, man, and we have

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>to treat it like it's serious. And that's why I

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>think hip hop being the pretty much the staple of

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the culture, and pretty much these are the vanguards of

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>our culture. So when you are giving that message and

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you're being very you know, irresponsible to say the least,

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and you're giving that message and you glorifying it to

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>these kids knowing that they holding onto every word that

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you say because they believe you. And if you're not

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>if you're not giving them the facts, if you're not

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>saying even if that's something that you're doing, if you're

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>not telling them how it's hurting you and the negatives

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that come with it, and you're just telling, you know,

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>we're taking perks and we're doing this, and you're not

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>telling how many of your friends is dying, how many

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>people have locked up, whatever that comes with that, then

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you just being a false of prose prophet for me

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and I can't do it. But that fair are I mean,

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I know it is. But there are a lot of

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.959
<v Speaker 1>people who say, as an artist, they are not responsible

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>for raising your kids. But that's not true because as

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>an artist, you you you, especially as my kid's favorite artists,

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you spend more time to my kid than I do.

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Because when I ain't talking they got you in their headphones,

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>they're going to YouTube to find you. So you have

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 1>to have some level of responsibility. And if you don't

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>have responsibility, then it's our responsibility to make sure that

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't have the ears of our children. So that's

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what it comes down to me. It's like, I

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>get it, you don't need responsibility, but we need to

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>make sure that you ain't over here spreading his poison

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>to these kids. Because it's pretty much like a cold leader.

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>You understand, music is is is has that same level

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 1>of code. If you look at the fans that musicians

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>have that they jump on and they fall out when

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you see people live their lives on the words of

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>these artists. So we a cold leader can have tend

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>people in the room and say yo, I want you

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>to kill each other or kill yourself, and he just

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 1>keeps saying, but it has happened. It's not saying it

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>happens often because that was the men said that the

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Cold Leader wanted to temple. But we've seen it happen.

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>So if you are artist and you keep saying lean

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and perks and we're on perks and lean, and then

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you have influenced it's a lot of these young artists

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>that talk about that stuff all the time. But when

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>you talk about artists and music, it brings me to

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>this place where I'm just so proud. I'm so proud

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>of Mary J. Blige until write a post because I'd

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:32.439
<v Speaker 1>be getting choked up. This is twenty five years my

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 1>life album. That was the album that to your point,

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>she has I wouldn't a cult, but we are a following.

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you rap singing. I don't think you

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>do sing When it come to Mary, I could do whatever.

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>This is true. That's the thing about Mary J. Blidges

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>music right, Like you can sing. You know, it isn't

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>matter if you have a good voice, a bad voice,

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. If you can get and you feel like

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 1>you can even if you can't. She just makes you

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>feel because you feel so connected to me Mary is.

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>It's iconic and so many facets of the world of

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>icon man like she has she created something, recreated herself,

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>rebranded herself and continued several times several times over like

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>she has been able to transcend and continue to be

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>relevant in so many different time periods of music. Man.

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 1>So when you think about twenty five years years ago

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I was fifteen years old. I'm literally six months almost

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to the day of turning forties. So you know, I'm

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>on this little like I'm gonna be forty. Who do

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I get rid of? Who do I keep? What do

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>I do? How do I get better? Stronger? The whole thing?

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think about being fifteen. That's like when we

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>really discovered love. Like I thought, I just I knew

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>already broken, and my life was like I know what

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the hell I was singing, but I knew it was

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>like it was it was, it was, it was. It

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>was like turning my inside and and she would take

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>you through feeling good about yourself. Mary was listen. Mary

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:18.439
<v Speaker 1>is one of the only singers and women that could

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>bash a man, and the man still she really not

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>really bad. She wasn't bad. She was just selling her story.

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>And it was like, damn, he hurt you like you

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like come on, because women would play it.

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Women would play it to you like they mad at you,

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 1>and you don't even kid you still be she mad

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>at you and you still singing Mary like, but you

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 1>know what's funny? Twenty five years ago, that's probably true.

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>That's how we how many people interpreted it. But the

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.399
<v Speaker 1>other day when we were coming down to your Kings

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<v Speaker 1>stopped killing King's March in Baltimore, Angelo, our brother, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we were listening to the lyrics and she really wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>bashing men at all. She was actually talking a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about love. Some of it was pain, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it was more so about when you love your man,

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<v Speaker 1>when you really into a man, when your man is

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<v Speaker 1>into you. You see three songs, but there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many other songs that were not about like bashing. No,

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<v Speaker 1>she never really bash. I'm just saying she gave she

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<v Speaker 1>gave woman a voice for pain, pain, pain in relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was so good that the men even gra

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<v Speaker 1>gravitated to it and grabbed on while the woman was

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<v Speaker 1>using it against them. You know what I'm saying. You

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<v Speaker 1>know when they were using it against because women singing women.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're coming the house, okay whatever, you come out

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<v Speaker 1>and you know your girl madded she's playing married and

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<v Speaker 1>she looking at you and she's singing the song and

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<v Speaker 1>you're still dancing, like, no, she killed this. You ain't

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<v Speaker 1>even you You know she mad a you were she

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<v Speaker 1>using it to say something to you, but you still

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<v Speaker 1>just singing you like I would. I would suggest because

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, Angela, and we're listening and he was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the woman bashing, and then we listened to

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<v Speaker 1>the song after song and he's like, Yo, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is some like powerful always Bible music. So you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't listen again because you might hear that it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>two or three songs that might be really bad. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying she gave the voice to women that were

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<v Speaker 1>mad at their man's That's that's definitely heartbroken, Yes, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>heartbroke and and putting the pieces back together. We watched

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<v Speaker 1>Mary put the pieces back together and she broke a

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<v Speaker 1>cover us down to at the same time, whut the

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<v Speaker 1>was necessary? One thing is one thing we have to

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<v Speaker 1>say about Mary J. Blide is that consistency but truth.

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<v Speaker 1>It was always her true self and the storyline was

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<v Speaker 1>always true and she was. That's why we relate to

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<v Speaker 1>her so much because we are married and she is us.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Mary, congratulations on years not been giving

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<v Speaker 1>how the type of love that she deserves right now

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<v Speaker 1>because she supposed to be here your marriage shut down,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can hug you. We want to show you

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<v Speaker 1>love like we wouldn't you on Street politicians, like, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>make that happen for us. Man, We love you. What

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<v Speaker 1>you mean to our culture, what you meant to meet

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<v Speaker 1>as a young boy growing up seeing you man, just

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<v Speaker 1>the essence. And he was like right from yawkers, like

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<v Speaker 1>right down the block, and I was in the Bronx

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<v Speaker 1>and I used to be like, yo, Shore, he is

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<v Speaker 1>just dope. She was. You couldn't go to skate, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying you couldn't like they were playing they're playing

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<v Speaker 1>Mary and sk skating like Mary was for every aspect.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the four one one? Hunt? Yeah? Whats so that

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<v Speaker 1>means we missed the anniversary of What's the four won one?

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<v Speaker 1>It was a good, good show. So glad to have

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<v Speaker 1>everybody to join us on Street Politicians. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of topics. We want folks who have comments,

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<v Speaker 1>question Jen's thoughts, ideas, things you want us to talk about, about,

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.799
<v Speaker 1>things we need to learn together, to hit us up,

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<v Speaker 1>to send us all your thoughts. You can send us

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<v Speaker 1>all your thoughts. You can look at the information on

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<v Speaker 1>the screen and get in touch with us, and also

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<v Speaker 1>you can reach each one of us directly. I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>Tamka D Mallory. That's with an eye, not an e

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<v Speaker 1>you know, shout out to people with the ease. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's I to Maka D Mallory on Instagram, on every platform,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tamica D Mallory. I don't check Twitter because twitters

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<v Speaker 1>we are crazy people. Oh yeah, I don't go to either,

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<v Speaker 1>but I come sometimes. But I'm on Instagram mostly it's

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<v Speaker 1>my song and why and eating why general. You can

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<v Speaker 1>follow media or I'm sometimes on more Facebook and I

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<v Speaker 1>want you with that my song sometimes. But like we

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<v Speaker 1>always say, we're not always going to be right. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not always gonna agree with us, and we might even

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>be wrong, but we will always be authentic. He might

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 1>be wrong, Yes, she's you know what, peace, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>We owned it.