WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Chris Simms 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:08.159 Sports Radio Our two on this Tuesday, Dan and the 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:12.000 Dan That's Dan Patrick Show Talk some football with Chris 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:15.920 Simms from Pro Football Talk. Coming up, he ranked the 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:19.160 draft eligible quarterbacks here and he said his number one 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:23.240 quarterback is number one by a lot. He'll join us 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.040 coming up here in a little bit. By the way, 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.440 the weight is over. Will and the Bank's Family are back. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:30.280 A new season of the hit Peacock original series bell Air. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:35.199 Stream it down new episodes Thursdays only on Peacock. We 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:37.400 say good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:39.800 our streaming partner. Download the app and you can watch 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:44.080 this program for free. Also radio affiliates around the country. iHeartRadio. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:48.400 Fox Sports Radio went to see a screening of the 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:52.360 movie Air. This is Ben Affleck and Matt Damon by 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:56.840 Ola Davis, and it's the story about Sonny Vicaro, who 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:01.760 was the sneaker guy at Nikeing, and he was responsible 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:06.760 for signing all these coaches and got them big money. Therefore, 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.760 their programs were going to be wearing Nikes. But in 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:13.680 they were really struggling. They didn't have any basketball players. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.880 They had a lot of runners. Nike was known as 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:22.400 a running shoe. And then Sonny mccarro was hired by 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.240 Phil Knight, and Sonny would go around the country and 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.720 he would see all these high school players. He ran 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.280 the Dapper Dan Basketball tournament in Pittsburgh. But you had 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:35.120 competition back then, Adidas was tops. Adidas was the number 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.479 one shoe, then convers and then Nike was a distant third. 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:44.760 Sonny mccaro realized that the hopes of Nike and their 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:49.600 basketball department rested on the shoulders of Michael Jordan. He 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:53.440 just said that he was the guy. Now he went 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.320 third in the draft. A came, then Samboe and then 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:00.440 Michael Jordan. But Sonny McCarroll said, no, he's special. And 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.240 he goes back to the national title game when Michael 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:08.519 hits the game winning shot, and Sonny was sold on 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:14.800 Michael Jordan because he said, here's a freshman. James Worthy 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.720 is the star of North Carolina. Dean Smith runs a 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:24.160 play worthies the decoy to let Michael Jordan take the shot. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:29.160 Sonny was sold on Michael jordan stardom. And he goes 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.400 to Phil Knight and he says, look, we got this 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.480 amount of money two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.360 they were going to spread it out over three draft picks. 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:42.200 They looked at John Stockton and mel Turpin, Lancaster Gordon, 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.919 you know some of these other players. Sonny goes, no, 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.120 it's Michael Jordan. Well, Jordan's ready to sign with Adidas, 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.760 and Sonny's like, I'm not gonna let it happen. I'm 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.079 gonna figure this out. And that's what the movie is about. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:03:00.160 It's about Sonny Vicarro trying to encourage Entice Michael Jordan's 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.800 mom played by Viola Davis, to sign with Nike. Mike 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.720 didn't want to go to Portland, Oregon, or you know, 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.760 he didn't want to go to Oregon, Beaverton, Oregon. His 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:16.200 mom said, no, we're going. He took his other meetings. Converse, 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.280 went to Germany to meet with Adidas and then went 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.360 to Nike, and then they rolled out the red carpet 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:27.360 for him. They made the Jordan shoe a prototype and 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.480 they put it in front of him, and back then 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.880 you couldn't have it. You had to have your shoe 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.520 be predominantly white. There was red in it. And then 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.160 they decided they were going to roll the dice they 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.480 were putting in red and black. They were giving him 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:46.720 Chicago Bulls colors, and that's what Jordan saw and he's thinking, 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.720 you know, they said they're making the shoe with Michael 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.480 in mind, instead of we got a shoe, you get 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:56.040 to wear it. And that was the genius that I 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.600 think set off a light bulb with Michael. Jordan's mom, 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.880 who was instrumental in all of this. She's the one 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.920 that made this. She's the one that made one of 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:09.200 the greatest business deals in history because she said, all right, 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.600 we're gonna go here, but we want a percentage of 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:17.440 every single air Jordan Sultan. They were gonna pay her 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.640 two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, pay my two hundred 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:24.280 and fifty thousand dollars. He wanted a Mercedes and they 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:29.279 were like, all right, and then Dolores Jordan says, we 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:33.560 want a percentage of every single shoe that he sells. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.600 At the time, it was mind blowing for any shoe 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.960 company to even think that. But Jordan had a brand. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.520 He didn't know he had a brand. Nike helped create 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:52.359 a brand, and his philosophy, as mom's philosophy, was hey 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.359 I'm going to be selling this when I play, I 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.640 sell this, and and you know he flipped it on 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.800 the the shoe companies, and it's one of the great 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.200 business deals, you know, Mike makes. I think they estimate 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:10.680 four hundred million dollars a year off his shoes. But 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.119 Matt Damon plays Sonny McCarroll. I think Sonny's gonna Jonas 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.679 on the show tomorrow. I've known him gosh almost forty 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:23.880 years now. And Ben Affleck plays Phil Knight, the CEO 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:29.760 of Nike. Viola Davis plays Michael Jordan's mom, and she's great. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.480 She steals the movie. Although Matt Damon as Sonny McCarroll 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.400 was great. Sonny's one of the heroes, and so is 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:40.440 Mike's mom. Michael Jordan, whoever is playing Michael Jordan, doesn't 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:44.400 really factor in. You see him, but I think he's 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.120 only got a couple of lines in there. Chris Tucker, 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:51.760 who works for Nike great, he was funny. And the 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.560 guy who plays David Falk, I think his name is 0:05:54.640 --> 0:06:00.440 Chris Messina. He's spectacular. Now. I had it in Hounters 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.320 with David Falk, but I never remember David Falk having 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:09.719 a volcanic personality like that. He could be angry and 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.040 he could go right at you. But in the movie, 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:17.640 David falk Is portrayed that way as he is cutthroat. 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.120 He has no friends, doesn't care about how any friends. 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.680 It's all about business deals. But they have a screening 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.920 in New York City. So I came to the city 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.719 and uh, you know, his invitation. Only first person I 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:37.600 see is Key from Key and Peel Keegan Michael Michael Key, 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.520 first guy I see. So I said, what's up? He goes, 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.240 what are you doing? Aaron? You know. We exchanged pleasantries 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.120 and then he goes, I think you know this guy. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.800 I look over it to Adam Schefter, I said, chefte, 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.240 I said, what are you doing? He goes just here 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.919 to see this Dan I'm doing well. Did he have 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:02.520 a shirt on? He did? Yeah. I saw mclovin he 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.719 was there, and I saw Hannah Storm and Dan Hicks 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:10.360 were there. I believe a real housewife of New York 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.240 might have been there, according to my daughter, who was 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.000 my plus one. Yeah, I know more about the Jersey Ones. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.000 I think somebody from Saturday Night Live might have been there, 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.720 but I wasn't sure. But my daughter was my plus one. Yesh, 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.920 eton were a lot of people wearing Jordans. Yes, yes, 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.760 And I said to my daughter, you know, I'm not 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.960 gonna wear Nike. And then she goes, well I'm not either. 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.640 I said okay. And then there was a couple behind 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:39.080 me and they had their you know, brand spanking new 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:43.640 Airson and U I said, oh you worrr Jordan. This 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.040 is gonna be a thing. People going to watch this 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.520 movie are going to wear their air Jordans. And then 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.400 she said, well what do you have on? I go 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:58.720 hookas and she goes hookas. I said yeah, I said, 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.800 I'm walking around the city. It's comfortable. I said, those 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:06.120 air Jordan's aren't comfortable. The originals as aren't comfortable. I said, 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.200 I'm an old man. I'm walking around. I want to feel, 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.320 you know, comfortable walking around. Plus, I'm not gonna wear 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.840 my shoes out and I don't have any. I have 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.560 a couple of the Originals. I have the red and black, 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.480 and I have the green and white. And then I 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:23.280 have a couple of like Air Jordan golf shoes. But 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:25.400 I'm not gonna wear those things. I don't. Yeah, pull, 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.240 I looked at the picture you sent us Afflecks got 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.280 a nice pair of Bowld Jordan's. Yes, he does Violda 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.560 Davis as a pair on as well. They did Q 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:37.200 and A after and so it was Affleck and it 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.000 was Matt Damon, Violda Davis, a couple of other Chris 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:44.560 Tucker wasn't there, Christmassina Jay Moore has a real, real, real, 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.320 real small cameo that should have gone to me. But hey, 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.560 that's the side fact. It's okay, Yes, Hunt, is there 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.280 a question you wanted to ask? And you're like, I 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.040 don't want to get involved, Well, my daughter said, because 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.160 I had to get back to entertain a nation today 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.480 and I didn't want to cheat this audience. And I 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.200 couldn't stay because they had a reception afterwards. Though movie 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.040 is an hour and fifty two minutes, and then they 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.520 had Q and A for about twenty five minutes, and 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.040 then I had to get on the road. Right before 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.600 I was getting ready to go, my daughter goes, are 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.520 you going to ask a question? I go, no, there's 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.800 no question you want to ask. Well, hopefully we have 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.400 Affleck and Damon on the show and I can ask 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.880 them the question then, But people are asking questions and 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.120 I said, let me, let me get out of here. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.600 So I ducked out and h But it was nice. 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:35.960 I would strongly strongly recommend the movie. I thought it 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.960 was great. But it, you know, kind of creates that 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.680 tension of a story that you didn't really know. We 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:45.319 just know Jordan went to Nike. What happened with Jordan 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.040 going to Nike? You know? That's the story about it. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.880 And it was well done. Music is awesome in it. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.520 I thought Ben Affleck did a great job putting this 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.040 all together. Yeah, Pa all the time, Michael Jordan got it. Yeah, 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.400 time he got some coverage. Yeah, that's exactly what Lebron 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.600 was hoping for. How about a Michael Jordan movie now 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:08.720 to Yeah, let's let's congrats my angle the greatest. Yeah, 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.920 they're not going to be doing Lebron movies, I'm gonna guess. 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.360 I don't. I don't know if they'll be a Lebron 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:19.199 unless Lebron produces. Does Lebron do a ten part series 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.720 on Lebron at some point in fifteen years, Yes see 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.160 he will, but it'll be like a cartoon series for 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.000 kids or something like that. Like I feel like he 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:31.160 does all that stuff already. Yes, he does an eleven 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:35.160 part series, Oh five years, Oh you think, I don't 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:39.200 think so if he gets another title than me. And 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.640 you know the story of Lebron is worthy of a 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.559 movie of him growing up. You know what he's done. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:50.240 But this, this changed everything in the world of sports 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.600 being a brand. Jordan changed that. And I thought Muhammad 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.800 Ali would have been a brand, and he might have 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.599 been a brand. I just don't he didn't capitalized the 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.880 way Jordan did. Because he had shoes that everybody wanted. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.800 You didn't have to play basketball to wear them. They 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.080 became a fashion statement. Now the Adidas the shelt to 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.560 me is the best shoe I've ever had. I think 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.680 it looks awesome. I still think it looks awesome. And 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.959 you know, but what Jordan did, he created and Nike 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:26.360 says this, They were gonna find Michael Jordan every game 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.760 that he wore the shoes that had red and black 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:33.400 on it, and Nike says, will pay the fine because 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.080 we're gonna get free advertising and then we'll do a 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.400 commercial about it. And it was really the marketing around 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.840 this was great. Yeah. Pay If you remember Michael Jordan 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:44.800 that season when he debuted the shoes, he was really 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.960 breaking out. I think that was a second year or 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.520 at the end of his first year. And he went on, Letterman, 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:51.439 if they put the clip in the movie, and they 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.840 did not. They showed and Jordan's holding up his shoes 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.720 and they're all black and red. Remember the all black 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.360 and red ones. He goes, yeah, And Dave asked me, 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.080 because I heard you couldn't wear him for a while. Well, 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:01.959 they said I couldn't wear him because there's no black 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.200 in him. And there's long pause, awkward pause, and Dave 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.400 goes kind of like the NBA or no white. I'm sorry, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:07.920 no white to him. He goes just like the NBA, 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.400 and they have a Letterman kind of played with it. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.760 Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.160 of the official Trading Cards of the Dan Patrick Show. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.160 The whole question for hour two is what Seaton O'Connor. 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.079 Let me update you hour one, Dan, we had Right 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:25.080 now Cam Newton could be starting NFL quarterback, a respectable 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.600 backup quarterback, or a TV analyst. Yeah, Cam is going 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.079 to be having a Pro day at Auburn today, or 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.600 at least he's the quarterback during the pro day. But 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.200 I think it's a chance for him to audition. What 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.880 are the results heat Fifty percent say a respectable backup, 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:46.040 forty six percent say a TV analyst. Right now, there's 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:47.880 only four percent of the audience that thinks he could 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.480 be a starting quarterback. Yeah, this is where if you 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.280 have people around you, you need to have somebody say 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.480 you're not a starting quarterback anymore, and you don't want 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.640 to hear it. But that's the truth with Cam Newton. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:07.520 He's not a starting quarterback. He may get a chance. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:09.960 I don't want him as a backup. I think I 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:14.200 think he's he's too big of a personality. I don't 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.160 know if he runs a forty today. I don't know 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.840 if he just passes throws the passes. But I think 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.920 he could be a really good analyst because he looks 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.640 he's very charismatic, you know, photogenic. I could see him 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.120 if he cares about doing something like that. Yeah, see 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.360 he you kind of hit on it before. But if 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.640 he can be on the sideline but not in uniform, 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.480 that he could be a great mentor or I don't know, 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.280 like a good vibes guy, you know what I mean. 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.679 If you're not worrying about him playing or wanting to 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.959 get his touches or whatever. But just like a vibes guy, 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.319 he could probably be great on the sideline. Imagine him 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:49.000 helping Anthony richardson dues and don'ts of a quarterback that 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.960 size with that athleticism. This is what you need to 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.280 work on, you know. I'll talk to Chris Sims, he'll 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.040 join is coming up. 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Thanks for listening 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.080 to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.040 us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.840 to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and you can 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:27.000 find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.760 us live on the Peacock app. We'll talk to Chris 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.560 Simms Pro Football Talk. He'll join us coming on his 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:37.800 quarterback rankings going into the draft. Frank Wright, the Carolina 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:43.840 Panthers head coach, had a press conference and he was 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.520 he was addressing a lot of things, it felt like 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.800 and he didn't need to, but it had to do 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.840 with the height of Bryce Young at Alabama and would 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.280 he consider him with the number one pick. Everything matters. 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:00.840 All those conversations matter, especially when it's Scott Fitter. You know, 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:02.960 it's the GM and he's talking about a guy like 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.480 Russell Wilson, who, by the way, I had a very 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.120 high grade on. Don't don't. You don't have to read 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.400 anything into that. But I don't mind telling you that 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.200 I had a high grade on Russell Wilson. Okay, but 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.480 don't read anything into it. I'm just saying that because 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.480 all these people are putting this label on me that 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.200 I only work with big quarterbacks. Don't read anything into that. 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.920 When you got the number one pick, the thing is 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.000 is right, you know, we don't have to play games, right, 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.000 I mean, it's not like we're trying to fool anybody. 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.240 What we're trying to do is take all the time 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.880 we can on the evaluation. There's a lot of conviction, 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.400 as Scott said, on some of these top quarterbacks. And 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.800 you're right, the old ads don't make a decision before 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.240 you have to. We're gonna take every second every day, 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.080 or every hour every day to make this decision. And 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.800 we still got plenty of time left. Okay, you don't 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.160 have to explain anything, Frank, you have the number one pick. 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.680 You didn't clear up anything other than hey, I had 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.840 a great grade on Russell Wilson. You don't read anything 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:57.200 into that, okay, because russ is six feet tall and 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.360 Bryce Young is five ten. But we're not going to 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:04.119 read anything that. Chris Sims Pro Football Talk Live co 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.600 host NBC Football Night in America analysts, what's Frank Reich 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:12.040 saying or not saying? I think he's you know, he's 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.239 still toting the line of like I'm not we're not 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.800 sure what we're going to do here yet, right. That's 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.960 the that's the great thing. I think what Carolina did here, Dan, 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:22.840 I mean, they were kind of in no band's land 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.320 as far as the number nine pick of the draft. Right, 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.880 you're in danger of weight, we might not get one 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.560 of the top guys, so they make a move here. 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:35.560 Nobody is fully confident in their draft board as it 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.320 stands right now in the middle of March. Teams just 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.880 ended free agencies. So what they did and the premium 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.639 they paid to get to number one is now to go, Wait, 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:46.359 we got the pick of the litter, and we can 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.040 evaluate this. And so he's just trying to make sure 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.280 guys like you and me can't glean anything to where 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.040 they're leaning or anything like that right now. And I'm 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:59.120 sure they don't know exactly what they're gonna do as 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:05.200 of right now. Okay, you're Carolina's GM. Yeah, you're taking 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:09.880 who number one overall, I'm taking CJ. Stroud and it's 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.760 not I'm mean, I'm I'm a big CJ. Stroud fan. 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.720 I think he's kind of in a class by himself. Okay, 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:19.560 walk me through the evaluation, because you said this isn't close. CJ. 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:24.520 Stroud is the best quarterback going into the draft, right CJ. Stroud? 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.199 I mean one, hey, listen the size thing, and then 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.680 you know, compared to my number two quarterback and Bryce Young. Yeah, 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.800 that's a real issue. It's concerning one for Bryce Young. 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:37.440 Two sizes a strength, it's a skill. Right. We talk 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:39.639 about this a lot, right Dan, the ability for the 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:43.359 bigger quarterbacks to throw with people hanging around them. I 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:45.920 can't step up and into the step into this throw, 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:47.680 but I still am big enough, is strong enough to 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.920 throw a twenty yard out route, So I always lean 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.040 towards that. But then when you break down CJ. Stroud, 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.520 like I guess I was a little blown away by 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:02.000 the fact of one, his decision making is borderline flawless. 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.560 I think it's not as good as I've seen other 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.120 than maybe Joe Burrow. He's the only guy I would 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.480 maybe give the edge too. As far as that department 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:15.720 and then throwing the football mechanics are flawless. And it's 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.520 not like it's dink and dunk and screens and all 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.240 that type of stuff. Dan, it's one fifteen and twenty 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.639 and twenty five yard throw after another, you know. And 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.880 of course I think the movement is underrated a little bit. 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.760 There's still some untapped potential in this kid. So yeah, 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.439 he's clearly Number one for me, and I would be 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:37.720 shocked if more people don't see it that way. As 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.960 the NFL evaluators continue to go through the process, we're 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:45.600 trying to evaluate Ohio State quarterbacks in Alabama quarterbacks because 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:51.320 other receivers Ohio State has become wide receiver. You yeah, 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.800 and how does that factor in when you're looking at CJ. 0:19:54.920 --> 0:20:00.000 Stroud going he's got some of the best wide receivers 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.120 in college for sure. Sure, No, I mean I definitely 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:04.760 look at that. You know, that was one of the 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.120 things that even like you know, with justin Fields. Back 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:10.480 to that conversation you weren't sure about, but you know 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:13.040 also within that the offense is a little different than 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.120 what they ran with justin Fields. You get to see 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:20.200 so many throws and CJ. Stroud play like a professional 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:25.000 quarterback with decision making, the concepts down the field, how 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.600 he moves in the pocket that you know, Hey, yeah, Dan, 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.040 there's some guys that are wide open. But you know 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.679 what happens every time they're wide open. It's on the 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.520 money and they keep running and it's a touchdown. So 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.800 he takes advantage of that to its utmost. But as 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:43.000 you know too, there's plenty of them. There's plenty of 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:47.560 plays where coverage is tight. Oh my gosh, whoa. Yeah, 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.600 this is the only guy that's open. This is an 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.560 NFL window. He's only opened by four or five inches. 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:58.360 Boom strike. I mean, it's one really great throw after another. 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.560 And he's pretty aggressive of a decision making, but not 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.400 crazy aggressive. Uh So, yeah, you take all those things 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.480 in an account, but you get to see plenty of 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:11.800 you know, other stuff that's not easy from CJ. Strout there. Okay, 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:17.080 you're seeing it, Yeah, are other analysts are other you 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:21.119 know team's gonna see this, I think. So I like 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:24.760 this though, Chris I said, well, you got to do 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:28.399 is put in the Georgia game, right, I think, well, again, 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:32.399 I think, you know, talking heads, the media, the hype 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:36.560 around Bryce Young, it is Alabama, he won a Heisman, 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:40.119 all of that is gonna lend itself. We've been everybody's 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:42.480 been been told that Bryce Young was the number one 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.520 pick for a long long time, you know. And as 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:49.120 I said too, you know, I think NFL evaluators are 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:51.800 just really getting into this where I do think as 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:55.000 time goes on, I have a hard time thinking that, yeah, 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:57.520 they're gonna start going oh no, CJ. Stroud is clearly 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:00.520 number one, you know, And this isn't to me. This 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.840 isn't like a Zach Wilson, Trevor Lawrence. Oh it's so close, 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:07.840 I'm nipticky or I'm trying to be you know, different 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:10.960 because I like a strong arm quarterback or anything like that. No, 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:14.480 this dude checks all the boxes. And then, like you said, 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:16.800 some of the untapped potential that you see in the 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.359 Georgia game, where you go, oh, the backyard element, the 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:23.520 ability to run, it's there more than he's given it credit. 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:25.919 For but that should have been the you know, the 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:27.679