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Speaker 1: I think you know.

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Speaker 2: Our record is what it is, like I said, but

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Speaker 2: we have a lot, a lot left to play for

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Speaker 2: and so I'm just excited to be a part of it.

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Speaker 4: Welcome into the Next Man Up.

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Speaker 3: I mer whole brin Corwen Junior head with a very

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Speaker 3: special guest stepping up big time for us right now.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Jones won a few Super Bowls. Now you hear

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Speaker 3: the Burgundy and gold. My brother's good to see you again.

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Speaker 1: Man, Man, I appreciate you. Good to see you, go

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Speaker 1: to see you think.

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Speaker 4: You for meo of course.

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Speaker 3: Man, last time we sat here in these chairs, but

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Speaker 3: you were just signed, didn't know what to expect, but

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Speaker 3: you had big expectations for yourself.

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Speaker 4: Man, how far? How has this year gone for you?

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Speaker 4: So far?

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Speaker 1: It's been good.

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Speaker 2: I think the adversity obviously of the record is what

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Speaker 2: it is. But for me personally, I enjoyed being in

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Speaker 2: a new environment, something different. I feel like I'm growing

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Speaker 2: still as a football player, being in a new environment,

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Speaker 2: new systems. It's just still learning, still learning the best

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Speaker 2: that I can and just trying to trying to help,

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Speaker 2: I can and be out there.

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Speaker 3: How are you able to help them through this adversity though,

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Speaker 3: because we have so many young guys, especially that defre's

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Speaker 4: Of their lives.

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Speaker 3: You have seen the best success, but you also gone

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Speaker 3: through our times as well. How have you as a

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Speaker 3: VET helped them kind of maneuver this part?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think the biggest part is just understanding just because

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Speaker 2: then on top of that, still your job. I know

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Speaker 2: as a young player, you know, especially coming out of college,

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Speaker 2: you know if the season's over with, you know they're

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Speaker 2: you're still it's still your job, and so you still

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Speaker 2: to come in every day and do your.

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Speaker 3: Job, and I gotta imagine they're really willing to listen

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Speaker 3: to you because they've seen you go through adversity in

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Speaker 3: real time. Being here get your first year of Washington,

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Speaker 3: you have big expectations. In week two, you suffer an

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Speaker 3: injury that puts you on injury reserve. Man, can imagine

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Speaker 3: that was easy to deal with because I know you

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Speaker 3: were very motivated. You were coming here ready to do

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Speaker 3: next level. Man, how tough was it dealing with that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was tough.

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Speaker 2: It was my first time, you know, my tenth year

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Speaker 2: But just knowing, you know, great training staff to come back,

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Speaker 2: I think your mind kind of shifts. You kind of

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Speaker 4: How do you deal with that mentally? Right?

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Speaker 3: Because yes, you want to stand this a job, Yes

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Speaker 3: you're professional, Yes, you've maybe deal with this.

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Speaker 4: A couple of times.

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Speaker 3: However, it's still a mental hurdle to get past when

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Speaker 3: I can't do nothing about it. Man, how did you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the middle part is tough.

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Speaker 2: I mean because when you're out and the team wins,

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Speaker 1: So you can't contribute.

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Speaker 4: And you said you've been on injury reserve four times

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Speaker 2: No, No, that's the first time I've been on a

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Speaker 4: What year were you in your career when you dealt

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Speaker 1: It was that year six or seven?

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Speaker 3: Year six or seven. So now you're in year ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a whole nother ballgame. Man, you're older now your

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Speaker 3: year ten, You're in a whole different spot. This is

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Speaker 3: different surroundings. What was this journey like, the road to

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Speaker 3: recovery like for Jonathan Jones? Can you kind of give

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's different.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was in New England for nine years,

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Speaker 3: Will get you through that doubt of yourself. Man, what

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Speaker 4: Who helped you get through?

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Speaker 1: Family? Always family.

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Speaker 1: You just dad. So you're clocking on dad mode.

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Speaker 2: And so that gets you through it because you realize,

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Speaker 3: You mentioned dad, I gotta ask you because not everybody's

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Speaker 3: dad's a pilot. Now everybody's dad as an NFL player,

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Speaker 3: but youth player, is you pilot? All partners at LANSDS

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Speaker 3: that resort like to know that you were spending some

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Speaker 4: I don't got to ask you how.

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Speaker 3: You spend your downtown because your downtime's up in the air.

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Speaker 4: You flying around? Man, what is that like? Bro? When

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Speaker 4: plane and the man, how cool is that? That's gotta

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Speaker 4: be one of the flyest things in the world.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 2: It's an amazing experience that the kids get to experience

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Speaker 1: They love it, you know, the kids really into it.

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Speaker 2: We were landing and when the automations came on, I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: And I do do you ever get nervous up there?

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Speaker 4: For has that ever been a conversation?

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Speaker 2: It's not really nervous disrespect, you know. I think similar

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Just to be back. Yeah, I love the game

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Speaker 2: Started when I was four. So every fall for me

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Speaker 1: So just being back out there it means a lot.

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Speaker 3: You've had a few games before Spain, before the bye week.

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling now now that you've gotten kind

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Speaker 3: show people, Hey, this is why they brought me here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, feel good, feel good. I'm excited. You know, I

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Speaker 2: Our record is what it is, like I said, but

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Speaker 2: we have a lot, a lot left to play for,

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Speaker 2: and so I'm just excited to be a.

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Speaker 4: Part of it.

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Speaker 3: You said, you guys have a lot left to play for.

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Speaker 3: What did Jonathan Jones have to play for?

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Speaker 1: Man? Just my career.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, you get to the back end of your career,

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Speaker 2: You know, show the younger guys what it's like to

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Speaker 3: And we've seen DQ take over play calling, right, we

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Speaker 3: And Jonathan is my job to remind everybody that we

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Speaker 3: Tom Action. It's the Denver Broncos. They are a tough team,

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Speaker 2: They're good football team and they're on a good winning streak.

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Speaker 1: You know, be physical.

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Speaker 1: You know what do we want to do?

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Speaker 4: Johnthrey. We appreciate your time. Brother. We know you're very

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Speaker 3: God is good, You're a healthy man. The family guid

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Speaker 5: What's good?

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Speaker 4: I'm chilling man.

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Speaker 3: It's wild to be sitting here talking to you because

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Speaker 4: And it's wild.

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Speaker 6: what I went through as far as the adversity I faced,

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Speaker 6: just you know, being humble, constantly being humbled at Nebraska

444
00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,920
Speaker 6: and having you know, to go through it a little

445
00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,200
Speaker 6: bit to prepare myself for what it meant to be

446
00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,800
Speaker 6: a pro. And I think that was you know, my

447
00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,640
Speaker 6: own you know, a lot of that was my own

448
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,080
Speaker 6: choices and decisions I made and things I was into.

449
00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,920
Speaker 6: But you know, I was, I was, I was you know,

450
00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,960
Speaker 6: the hometown tied kid was troversal and uh, you could

451
00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,720
Speaker 6: have did a better job of focusing when I was

452
00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,000
Speaker 6: on that field and and and being my best and

453
00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,919
Speaker 6: presenting my best self at all times.

454
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Speaker 5: But you know, that was a college of young college kids.

455
00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,960
Speaker 5: So I feel like I had to go through you.

456
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Speaker 6: Know, those moments to make me you know, who I

457
00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,320
Speaker 6: was able to turn into, which was just you know,

458
00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,159
Speaker 6: with Washington, I was a football player. It didn't matter,

459
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,399
Speaker 6: you know, where they was going to put me. I

460
00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,080
Speaker 6: was able to come there and start a receiver. My

461
00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,160
Speaker 6: my rookie year, I got started a couple of games

462
00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,280
Speaker 6: that Reekar didn't really you know, get the production that

463
00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,000
Speaker 6: we wanted. But then you know, to come in they

464
00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,600
Speaker 6: brought in a bunch of receivers. Coach Shanahan asked me

465
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Speaker 6: to move the tight end.

466
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Speaker 5: Uh. I did it without hesitation, understanding that.

467
00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,879
Speaker 6: I'm undersized and I had great he was able to

468
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Speaker 6: have great coaches like Sean McVay, like West Phillips and

469
00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,840
Speaker 6: UH player coaches who they're not they weren't coaches at

470
00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,120
Speaker 6: the time, but they helped me in my journey through

471
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Speaker 6: the tight end process, which was logan passing, UH and

472
00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,800
Speaker 6: and cool like those guys really helped me navigate my

473
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Speaker 6: way through being the tight end and gave me the

474
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Speaker 6: confidence to go out there and do it.

475
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Speaker 3: Man and That's definitely what I want to talk to

476
00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,240
Speaker 3: you about is that transition, because it's not an easy transition.

477
00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,600
Speaker 3: And Logan Paulson speaks highly of you all the time.

478
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,480
Speaker 3: He does my show with me on Command Center, he

479
00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,719
Speaker 3: speaks about you all the time. But first things first,

480
00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,080
Speaker 3: I want to know what it was like when you

481
00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,040
Speaker 3: got drafted by Washington, right, because again, you omahak kid,

482
00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,480
Speaker 3: you stay in Braska to go to high school out there.

483
00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,879
Speaker 3: I mean you go to high school there, then you

484
00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,480
Speaker 3: go to college out there to stay in Nebraska.

485
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,040
Speaker 4: Now it's time to lead. Now it's time to go

486
00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,480
Speaker 4: across the world. Man to Washington, DC.

487
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Speaker 3: Man, did you know anything about Washington? Had you ever

488
00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,399
Speaker 3: even really left Nebraska like that? Outside of traveling for school?

489
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Speaker 6: I traveled for you know, I was able to. I

490
00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,719
Speaker 6: was a three sport athlete growing up, and we traveled

491
00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,840
Speaker 6: a lot. But it was never like I never traveled

492
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Speaker 6: freely for like vacation purposes or like I had never

493
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 6: been to DC. I had never been to the DMV.

494
00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 6: I didn't know anything. So, you know, being an Omaha kid,

495
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Speaker 6: I was, you know going out there was it was

496
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 6: definitely it was a culture shot. It was like, all right, like, Okay,

497
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,119
Speaker 6: it's a little different I here. You know, they call

498
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Speaker 6: it Chalcolm the City for a reason, and it was

499
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 6: it was, you know, honestly, it was some of the best,

500
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 6: like just being out in DC in the area, some

501
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 6: of the best years of my life, not just because

502
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 6: I was playing football, just because of everything, like being

503
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 6: able to experience that and even you know, my brother,

504
00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,719
Speaker 6: I had a brother that lived with me and some friends.

505
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 6: Everybody moved out there because it was just such an

506
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 6: incredible place to be. And I would definitely, you know,

507
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 6: if I wasn't on you know, my mission here right now,

508
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 6: and omaha, uh, that would be home.

509
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 3: And just know, even if you don't live out here,

510
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 3: it's still home here. You still got nothing but love

511
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,639
Speaker 3: out here. All the fans, I love to see you,

512
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,680
Speaker 3: and we know whenever you pull back up, it's gonna

513
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,200
Speaker 3: be all love.

514
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Speaker 4: Man.

515
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 6: Yeah. Every every time I do come back though, it's

516
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 6: always love. So I always appreciate it. Like I think

517
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Speaker 6: I came back for Tim. Tim brought me back for

518
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,160
Speaker 6: the It was the draft, the draft party up there

519
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,679
Speaker 6: at the I don't know, I forgot the name of it,

520
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 6: but it was it was a cross from the MGM

521
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 6: so they brought me up different draft party and I

522
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 6: had a good time. It was love, like fans remembered me.

523
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, yeah, this what's up?

524
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 5: Man? Like this was it was always love.

525
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 3: And it's crazy because you've gotten to witness two of

526
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 3: because we're not going mentioned, We're not go mins Jacksonville. Right,

527
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 3: we'll talk about Washington and the Huskers right now, you got.

528
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:30,159
Speaker 4: To play for two of. To me, the most.

529
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 3: Passionate fan bases, right, Like, there's something about the Husker

530
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,959
Speaker 3: fan base, right, most sold out games, the way we travel,

531
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 3: the way we love, the way we hate sometimes too,

532
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 3: right because Usker fans'll give it to you kind of

533
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 3: wild too.

534
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 4: It's very similar to what you see out in DC.

535
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 3: It's so crazy seeing all of these different lessons getting

536
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 3: to talk to you all, and none of y'all are

537
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 3: from here, but so many have made this home.

538
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 4: It feels like home there.

539
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 5: Man.

540
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Speaker 3: When you looked at that ran skin at the time,

541
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 3: fan base, Man, did it remind you a little bit

542
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 3: of this Husker fan base because how locked in they

543
00:20:59,200 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 3: are on their team?

544
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,959
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no doubt, no doubt. It was the passion

545
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 5: everything the same. It was. It was pretty much to

546
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 5: go from the Husker atmosphere to you know, DC.

547
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 6: To see the love and the support that you have

548
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 6: and like the commitment and then the fans, and to

549
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 6: be able to be out there meeting the fans and

550
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 6: seeing how you know, like oh like this this this serious,

551
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 6: you know, and you know, to go to be able

552
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 6: to go and experience different programs to see like okay,

553
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,719
Speaker 6: like it was different than DC. You know it was

554
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 6: the Washington commanders, Like the fans were different.

555
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 5: Like you just don't find that anywhere.

556
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 3: Else, you really don't, man, And then you putting that

557
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 3: work on that field to get that fan base though, right,

558
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 3: Like it wasn't like they were just cheering for just anybody.

559
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 3: Now you you went out here and dig your thing,

560
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 3: and like you said, you even changed positions, which I

561
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 3: know you said that you were willing to do because

562
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 3: you just wanted to get out there and play.

563
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 4: But it's not easy.

564
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 3: It's not easy to change the position that you played

565
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 3: all through college, you played a little bit in NFL.

566
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 3: Now you have to make an adjustment. Like you said,

567
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: you're oversea verse size, right, you had to walk up.

568
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 5: Man.

569
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 4: I remember watching you go through that.

570
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 3: Man, I think you gained like forty fifty pounds of muscle, like.

571
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 4: You put in that work. Man, Can you just talk

572
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 4: about what that transition was like for you?

573
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 5: Oh Man, I had had a great strength coach and

574
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 5: Chad ingle Heart.

575
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 6: Was uh I believe he's it was not ingle Heart.

576
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 6: Chad he there and now he's a strength coach there.

577
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 6: Now I think it's ingle Heart. I forgot his last name.

578
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 6: He hit been mad at me, but you know, we

579
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 6: really hit it as far.

580
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,479
Speaker 5: As you know, weights.

581
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 6: And then I had you know, I had a nutritionist

582
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 6: and we were putting on pounds and you know, coach

583
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 6: Shanahan told me at the time, this is where you

584
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 6: wanted me to be. I was two fifteen, around two

585
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 6: fifteen to eighteen at the time, and I was able

586
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 6: to jump up to about two forty forty five was

587
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 6: two forty five I ended up getting the two fifty

588
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 6: was the heaviest I got too. But that took That

589
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 6: was like the next year when I was able to

590
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 6: like fully you know, that was throughout the next couple

591
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 6: of years when I was able to fully incorporate myself

592
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 6: as a you know, as a true tight end and

593
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 6: less less of a receivement tight end.

594
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Speaker 5: So it was tough though. It was definitely tough car

595
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 5: carrying all that weight, having to figure out what was

596
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 5: too much, what was too what was what was too

597
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 5: much or what was not enough for me to hold

598
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 5: my own in the block but not lose my speed.

599
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 5: So it was it was, you know, it was some

600
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 5: trials and tribulations.

601
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,479
Speaker 6: And I felt like, you know, when I when I

602
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 6: finally found a good rhythm, which was I want to

603
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 6: say twenty fifteen that you know, with that preseason, you

604
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 6: know it was me, j Reed, Logan, We were you know,

605
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 6: I think we were just one of the better tight

606
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 6: end rooms out there just collectively, and we battled through

607
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 6: camp and you know, I was able to be named

608
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Speaker 6: or starter and I broke my ankle and that was

609
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 6: just like, you know, it was like I finally.

610
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 5: Got that moment. I finally got that moment to you know,

611
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 5: because that was always.

612
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 6: My goal no matter what I did, I was, I

613
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 6: was gonna do what I needed to do for the team,

614
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 6: but I always I wanted to.

615
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 5: Have you know, those personal accolades too.

616
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 6: But you know, it was, it was, it was tough

617
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 6: times and then it was a humbling experience to just

618
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 6: you know, understand how the business works, and you know

619
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 6: just every year, you know, re kind of reinvented myself

620
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 6: and having to do what I needed to do to

621
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 6: be on that team.

622
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 4: How did you deal with those tough times though? Man?

623
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: Because dealing with tough times, you chase your dream. You're

624
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 3: working a job, like, you're trying to pay for bills,

625
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: you're trying to take care of your family. You're also

626
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 3: away from your family in a whole nother area that

627
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: you're not familiar with. Man, I don't think people really

628
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 3: understand with everything you guys are dealing with in real time,

629
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 3: and then you throw an injury on top of it.

630
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 4: Don't even think you've you.

631
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: Had dealt with an injury at that magnitude at least

632
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: before them.

633
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 4: Man, how did you deal with that?

634
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 5: Oh? Man?

635
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 6: It was rough at first, but I had a great

636
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 6: support system in my family, like my siblings, you know,

637
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 6: they all came out supported me and helped me and

638
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 6: helped me through the surgery.

639
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 5: I started.

640
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 6: I started going to therapy shortly after that, just because

641
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 6: you know, you do find yourself when you you know

642
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 6: it's your first major surgery and like you're down, like

643
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 6: this was a point time where I have been playing

644
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 6: football consistently for the last you know, ten ten years

645
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 6: of my life and then to have it just taken

646
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 6: away like that, and now I'm not doing anything but

647
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 6: just trying to rehab and it.

648
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 5: It would have been easy for me to kind of

649
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 5: fall into.

650
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 6: Kind of a deep depression, but I tried to motivate

651
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 6: myself through it and was like, hey, I'm gonna come

652
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 6: back better than never.

653
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 5: You know.

654
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 6: And that was always my goal was to get back.

655
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 6: And then you see the business aspect of it, like

656
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 6: break my ankle. You know, j Ree balls Out had

657
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 6: a year and I always knew j Reed was going

658
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 6: to be, you know, the guy because he was just

659
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 6: amazing and I learned so even though he was a year,

660
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 6: a couple of years younger, I learned so much from

661
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 6: him just as a receiving tight end. But you know,

662
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 6: he has a breakout year. They bring in Vernon Davis,

663
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 6: who was you know, Hall of Fame tight end in

664
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 6: my opinion, but you know, so it was like, okay,

665
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 6: so now the topic goes from moving me from tight

666
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 6: end to fullback, and I'm like full back like tough,

667
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 6: you know, so I'm like, yeah, I can do it.

668
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 5: Like, and we had already.

669
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 6: Been doing a little plays where you know, the emotion

670
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 6: and tight end in the backfield and you just insert

671
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 6: on blocks, so they knew I can do it. I

672
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 6: just you know that just it sounds crazy, right to

673
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,959
Speaker 6: go from receiver to an undersized tight end to you know,

674
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 6: a fullback, like what you know what that was? Like

675
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 6: I said, it was a humbling experience. But for me

676
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 6: and what Washington meant to me, it was I would

677
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 6: have did whatever I had to do, like I was

678
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 6: going to play whatever position I had to play on

679
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 6: that field to you know, get on the field and

680
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 6: have an impact.

681
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: I mean the fact that they moved you around, I

682
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: think to me, I remember watching it real time because

683
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: I'm a young broadcaster covering you guys, covering the Huskers,

684
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 3: and of course everything now is due. We have to

685
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: talk about it as some capacity because you are missed

686
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 3: Husker at the time, right, You're the one that made

687
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: it to us, right, so we're talking about you, and

688
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 3: I'm watching you go through the real time, and I'm like,

689
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 3: I know this is probably tough for him, but it

690
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,959
Speaker 3: also shows how valuable this young man is. Because they

691
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 3: could go get another tight end. They can go get

692
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: a fullback. But they said, you know what, we want

693
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 3: to keep you on this roster and find ways to

694
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: use all your unique skill sets. Did you feel that

695
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: way in the time, though, when they're moving you around,

696
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 3: did you feel like, hey, man, well, hey, at least

697
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 3: I got a job.

698
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean yeah, I mean I did. I was.

699
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 6: I was like, you know, I was very like, okay,

700
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 6: even from when coach shannan said he wanted to move

701
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 6: me to tight end.

702
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 5: You know, I wasn't oblivious to the guys they brought in, like.

703
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 6: The Pierre Garson's and I'm like, oh, Dante Starwarth like

704
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 6: these all right, So they I took it as a

705
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 6: sign of respect, like, hey, they want to keep me

706
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 6: on this roster, like they like, I am valuable and

707
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 6: they want to find ways to you know that I

708
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 6: can be I can help, I can help produce for

709
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 6: this team.

710
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 5: And uh. And they did that.

711
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 6: And they, you know, from coach you know, from coach Shanahan,

712
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 6: the coach McVeigh, the coach gruten. Uh, they they all

713
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 6: found ways to you know, implement me in the game plan.

714
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 6: And I have always appreciated that because they could have

715
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 6: just you know it could have just moved on and

716
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 6: found somebody else, which was you know the nature of

717
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 6: the business.

718
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: And now that I talk to you've name dropped so

719
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: many different tight ends and I could ask you about

720
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: all of them and what it was like playing with them.

721
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 3: But I personally, and I feel like our fans personally

722
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: want to know too, what was Logan Pauls in life?

723
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 4: Like the Logan I know now.

724
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: Has one pair of shoes, wears the same shorts and

725
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: shirt and shirt almost every single day, very.

726
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 4: Very like, very very calm.

727
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: Watch his film all day.

728
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 6: He changed it all because Logan Logan, to me, he

729
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 6: not only was you know, to me, he was a

730
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 6: great tight end. I loved, you know, Logan, like I said,

731
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 6: he helped me through this process of being able to

732
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 6: block and help me understand. But Logan was, like you know,

733
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 6: just a genius in those ways of helping you understand.

734
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 6: Like you know, he never came down on me.

735
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 5: He never. I don't ever remember a time but Logan

736
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 5: was upset we would be in the game.

737
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 6: And you know, Logan with that from be like like

738
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 6: I said, he was, he was a coach.

739
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 5: He was he was a coach.

740
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 6: He's a players, he's calling out you know, blocks for

741
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 6: me blocks, He's going He's making my job easy. So

742
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 6: you know, it became an appreciation because we all co

743
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 6: existed so well together, you know, and we understood each other.

744
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 5: And I think that was the importance of like having

745
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 5: a good tight End room.

746
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 6: And even when it was cooly in there, when Chris

747
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 6: and and Fred, like we all was kind of would

748
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 6: navigate through it. But Logan was always the one who

749
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 6: was like the dad, like the dad of the tight

750
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 6: Ends group, who was you know, he had all the

751
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 6: answers and when we watched the film, he was Logan

752
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 6: was going to hold you accountable, and it it pushed

753
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 6: you off to the time, right, but Logan was always

754
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 6: going he was consistent in holding you accountable, challenging you,

755
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 6: and he would never leave you out to dry. So

756
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 6: I had I always have a great love and respect

757
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 6: for Logan in our time, uh with the commandagers, because

758
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 6: we both were going through it. You know, we both

759
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 6: was fighting for to get on the roster and uh,

760
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 6: I mean to stay on the roster and to keep

761
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 6: our jobs. And like when you know, he it was

762
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 6: like when you're not you know, exactly the one or

763
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 6: the guy, he just you're fighting for rosters by you know,

764
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 6: that's we you know, you kind of go through it together.

765
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: Logan still carries that undrafted free agent with him everywhere

766
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: he goes, and it's a beautiful thing because he's just

767
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: such a hard worker. But when we look at like

768
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: pictures of like, cause we know Logan now got the haircut,

769
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: the family got a dad. But when we look at

770
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: pictures of Logan back in the day, he looks like

771
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: a monster. Like he looks like somebody that was getting

772
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: in the fights, the noses broken.

773
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: He looks crazy.

774
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: Man, was Logan really calm on the field, because I

775
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: just can't imagine him like flipping that switch.

776
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 4: But then when you look at those pictures, you say, oh,

777
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: this was a crazy MF.

778
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 5: Logan.

779
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 7: Logan, I'm not going to say like like he was

780
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 7: very methodical or like very like detailed, robotish in a

781
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 7: way in how he operated on the field.

782
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 6: But when he did do something, you know that he

783
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 6: was proud of, like he was cave man. He was

784
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 6: like he was like a caveman about it when he

785
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 6: you know, when he and he did have a big

786
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 6: catch or had a big block, but like everything was

787
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 6: pretty stoic, with Logan like he you know, he would

788
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 6: we would have conversations on the sideline which would be

789
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 6: a little more emotional, like god, man, this just happened.

790
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 5: This is happening on the field like it was like

791
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 5: he was locked in.

792
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 6: And like I said, he was always mister dependable, Like, hey,

793
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 6: if you if you don't know what the exact block is,

794
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 6: Logan was definitely gonna let you know if you needed

795
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 6: the call, Logan was gonna get you a call. And

796
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 6: you know the way he practiced, the way the standard

797
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 6: he said and said the tight End Room helped in

798
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 6: my development while I was in there. So, like I said,

799
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 6: I just I'm always great appreciative the film.

800
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: I love hearing Man. He talks about you, jess as

801
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: highly man. When I told him I was going to

802
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: be interviewing you, He's like, tell my buddy, I said,

803
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: what's up. I love Noiles man, so that I had

804
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: to make sure I ask you about Logan because that's

805
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: our guy and he's a very interesting character.

806
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: Man.

807
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: And play with Logan, Pauls and the Vernon Davis and

808
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: Jordany's you do all of these different things. You played

809
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: for Washington for years, right you accomplish a dream, you

810
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: switch positions.

811
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 4: What do you remember most from your time in Washington?

812
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 6: Uh, I think one of my one of the more

813
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 6: more prouder moments was being named the captains out there

814
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 6: and then uh, I think facing that adversity, breaking my ankle,

815
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 6: coming back and uh battling through that and you know,

816
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 6: getting back on that field and making the transition to fullback.

817
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 6: I think that was that year that twenty sixteen seventeen

818
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 6: years wasn't wasn't my best year statistically, but like it

819
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 6: was my proudest year when I want to.

820
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 5: I won the award, uh for they give it out

821
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 5: every year for.

822
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 6: The name of it. I got it up serious for

823
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 6: when you're injured and you come back, and uh I

824
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 6: forgot the I got the name of the reward. They

825
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 6: happened every year in Baltimore. It's like an annual thing.

826
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 6: But uh I won the award where you know, injured players

827
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 6: come back and the teammates. My teammates respected me. I

828
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 6: think that you know that twenty sixteen in two thousand

829
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 6: and seven season was one of my more prouder seasons

830
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 6: just because I you know, I did had to swallow

831
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 6: piece of humble pie. You go from you know, being

832
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 6: named the starter to being third or fourth from the

833
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 6: depth chart as a tight end to be in the

834
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 6: starting fullback and I'm like all right, cool, like you

835
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 6: know this is this is how I'm gonna get on

836
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 6: the field.

837
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: And we had a great season.

838
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 6: I mean, I one of it was one of the

839
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 6: more exciting years because to see you know, Vernon in

840
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 6: his prime and like going how fast he was, to

841
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 6: see how you know, how shifty j Ree was and

842
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 6: his routes, and to see how we all were just

843
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 6: kind of growing through through the years. I mean through

844
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 6: that time, through that season. I was that was probably

845
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 6: one of my more favorite years and more memorable years

846
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 6: at uh yeah, at in DC.

847
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: And football has brought you so much, man, I mean,

848
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: it gets you out of Omaha, it gets you to

849
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: one of the biggest colleges in the world, gets you

850
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 3: to the NFL, and and like you said, Chocolate City, right,

851
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: it's taking you so far, but you're still doing things

852
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 3: with football.

853
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 5: Man.

854
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: You decide to go back to Omaha and now you're

855
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: coaching your father.

856
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: Man, what has life been like for now? Is Paul?

857
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 4: After all?

858
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 5: Life life has been different? Man.

859
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 6: So I was I had Originally I had retired and

860
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 6: I was in Jacksonville, Florida. I felt like, you know,

861
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 6: I was part of the Golden Girls. You know, this

862
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 6: was the life I got. I'm going to the beach

863
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 6: like you know.

864
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm good.

865
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 6: I'm doing a bunch of you know nothing, just enjoying

866
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 6: retirement and did this my whole life. And I spent

867
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 6: I think I spent, like I want to say, after

868
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 6: I was done with Jacksonville, I stayed there for about

869
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 6: uh maybe three or four years or maybe like about

870
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 6: five years.

871
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 5: I stayed in Jacksonville, and.

872
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 6: Something was missing in my life and I was completely

873
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 6: separated from the game. And you know, people have been

874
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 6: asking me to coach down there in Florida and asking

875
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 6: me if I want to do that, and I was like,

876
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 6: I think the only way that I would have coach

877
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 6: is if.

878
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 5: I come back home and do it, because.

879
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 6: You know that to me, that just would make the

880
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 6: most sen was to be able to help those you know,

881
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 6: those kids in my community and the you know, the

882
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 6: boys who you know at the time with me understanding,

883
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 6: like the boys who kind of grew up looking up to.

884
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 5: Me and and like.

885
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 6: That a listen and I could really have the most

886
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 6: influence on and I think coming here.

887
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 5: Was that was that was the most logical reason.

888
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 6: And coaching up at you know, North and coach Martin

889
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 6: reaching out to me because he was my high school

890
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 6: coach and we stayed we stayed in touch. You know,

891
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 6: he would come to the games. He you know, he always

892
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 6: had my back, He always spoke to me. He was

893
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 6: my high school. Like I said, he was my high

894
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 6: school football coach. So he's still the head coach here.

895
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 6: And he called and like we would be in touch,

896
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 6: and you know, he was like, hey, I would love

897
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 6: if you came.

898
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 5: And coach for me.

899
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 6: And I was I couldn't, you know.

900
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, well let's do it.

901
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 6: So I packed up left Jacksonville and moved back to

902
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 6: Omar and started coaching up at North and just getting

903
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 6: you know, my feet wet in that aspect where I

904
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 6: was like just trying to figure out who I am

905
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 6: as a coach and what I want to be and

906
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 6: like if this is something that I am that I'm

907
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 6: like truly capable of, because I never.

908
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 5: Really wanted to be a coach like that, Like.

909
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 6: It just it just never it was something that I

910
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 6: just was like I tr you know, coach, Like it

911
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 6: was never in me, but to go.

912
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 5: Through this process and be like, okay, figuring out who

913
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 5: I am as a coach and.

914
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 6: You know, how I can best impact my community and

915
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 6: these kids and get them to understand like what it's

916
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 6: like and get them prepared for the next level of

917
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 6: what the college and what the league looks like and

918
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 6: sharing those stories with them and sharing information with them

919
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 6: that helped them, you know, kind of through their journey.

920
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: And it's been fun watching from afar because like, I've

921
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: seen you through so many different levels, right of all

922
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 3: the different things you've accomplished, But when I watch you

923
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: be a coach, it seemed like it hits a little different.

924
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, is this the thing he enjoys the most?

925
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: From your mouth? Nows what has been the most rewarding

926
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: part about your journey when it comes to football.

927
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 5: When it comes to football coaching or just what I mean?

928
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: Because I feel like that all goes in hand, right,

929
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 3: you playing and it's all football, right, coaching, playing, All

930
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: those different things go hand in hand, right, Like I

931
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 3: mean to you, what is the most rewarding I feel

932
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: like to me when I watch you, I'm like, I

933
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: feel like he gets something more out of helping these kids.

934
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 4: Chase their dreams than what you did from even chasing

935
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: your own.

936
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean.

937
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 6: It was it was definitely exciting moments throughout my career

938
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 6: to where it was like yeah, like the memorable I'm like,

939
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 6: you know, I'll never forget that, being like MVP and

940
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 6: the big plays and the opportunities, big hits, like, but

941
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 6: there is to me at this point, nothing more rewarding

942
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 6: than seeing a kid that you worked with, a kid

943
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 6: that you helped, you know, develop, or had your hand in,

944
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 6: you know, in a part of their development successful and

945
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 6: chase their dreams and and be successful at it and

946
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 6: can achieve that.

947
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 5: So it's you know, there's nothing like, there's no prouder

948
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 5: moment in that and.

949
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 6: Like, which is why I asked the question, is because

950
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 6: because I also coached track too, so I think, you

951
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 6: know up here, I've I've read track all my life,

952
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 6: so up here, I kind of use track as the summer.

953
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 6: We don't have a we don't have spring ball for

954
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 6: your high school, so I kind of used track as

955
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 6: the summer I mean the spring program for our football

956
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 6: boys and putting them through that so that is like,

957
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 6: you know, there is there's there's reward and seeing like

958
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 6: boys you know, do things and and implement there like

959
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 6: the things you talk them or get faster and get

960
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 6: stronger and like achieve the things that they set out

961
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 6: to do and be successful, you know, and they're all right.

962
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 6: And I think that is that's that that that's that's

963
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 6: a whole different feeling than when it when it's like

964
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 6: self like self just you out there doing it all

965
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 6: your own, which is something be proud of.

966
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 5: But I find myself proud of those moments with the kids. Now.

967
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: I was, man, it's so crazy sitting here talking to you,

968
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: because I was kind of telling Rory the same thing.

969
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: Like I got to Nebraska my freshman year. Y'all were seniors, right,

970
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: So my entire broadcast sports journalism career has been covering you,

971
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 3: has been covering Roy has been.

972
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 4: Watching you guys.

973
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: So I remember, you know, and then I also went

974
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: to high school out there, so like I remember young

975
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: wild Noles, right, I remember the legend that was Noiles

976
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 3: Paul in Lincoln, Nebraska, right. And then I remember seeing

977
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: NFL player nows because you would come back or you know,

978
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: we had similar friends so I would see you out

979
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: in Houston at All Star weekend or we would just

980
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 3: kind of cross passing different ways. And I'm just a kid,

981
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 3: So you ain't paying me no min but I'm watching

982
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: and I'm and I'm following.

983
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 4: This story in this thread. And then to see you

984
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 4: here talking to you now.

985
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 3: Man, as a dad of coach brouh, it is crazy

986
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: to just sit here. I'm like, man, this this dude

987
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: is really gone fully full circle.

988
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 4: Man.

989
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 3: And God is so good and it has been so

990
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 3: dope to watch your journey and I know you're just

991
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: getting started because I can only imagine the things you're

992
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: going to accomplish as a as a as a coach,

993
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: and as a father and in closing brother for all

994
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 3: the Washington fans that have watched you, that had the

995
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: Noles Paul Jersey that supports you to this day, Man,

996
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: how do you want the fans to remember?

997
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 4: Now's Paul the redskin, the Washington player.

998
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 6: Uh A tough, a tough team player that was willing

999
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 6: to do anything you had to.

1000
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 5: And uh uh, you know I put my body on

1001
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 5: the line and you know I was able to.

1002
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Speaker 6: I was able to, you know, grind out some good

1003
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 6: years there and we and I would just want them

1004
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 6: to be just be proud of the player that I was,

1005
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 6: like you had, like I you know, I had. I

1006
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 6: had a good surrounding team obviously, with the guys like

1007
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 6: Logan and and the Renzo Alexander and Santana Moss and

1008
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 6: those guys was around me.

1009
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Speaker 5: So I would just want to be respected for the player.

1010
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 6: That I was, and you know, the things I was

1011
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 6: able to accomplish and and what I was able to

1012
00:40:59,160 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 6: really do out there.

1013
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: I have no doubt the fan base is proud of you, brother.

1014
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: I hope you take the time to be proud of

1015
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: yourself and everything you accomplished. I know a lot of

1016
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: times when you're still going through it, when you're still

1017
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: trying to do different things and you're looking out for others,

1018
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 3: it's easy to forget the things that we've already accomplished

1019
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: and all the dreams you already hit. Man. So I

1020
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 3: hope you're proud of yourself as well command as family.

1021
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: Our next man enough for true Washington Legend honestly exemplifies

1022
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: what it means to be a next man up. My

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Speaker 3: guy Husker a lum now it's Paul, appreciate you brother.

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