1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: New week, new challenge, and this one looks, at least 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: on paper anyway, even bigger than last week. Welcome Bird Gang. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: On today's show, Danny Surrek joins me, the forty nine 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Ers may be the best team in football. Of course, 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: we said that about the Cowboys a week ago. They 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: are good on offense, they are good on defense. Offensively, though, 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers have playmakers across the board. But 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: before we look ahead, we need to look back. Danny 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: deserves per moments. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode six seventy eight, 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: and it starts now. 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: Who to Baker? 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 3: What Heart? What rent? 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable. 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Azycardinals 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: dot com Slash podcasts. 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's in again 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: so far Purry magic. 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: Woy, Here's Craig Grioloud. 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: Typically by Wednesday, we're ready to turn the page on 22 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: the previous week. Not this week. Not when you, and 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: by you, I mean you Danny beat the Dallas Cowboys, 24 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: So congratulations, I think Danny deserves a round of applause. 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: Thanks. 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: It was hard work. 27 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Two and oh now right, undefeated, just like Kyler Murray, 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: Danny Sirek undefeated against the Dallas Cowboys. 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: That's right, my former employer where my family resides, the 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: hometown in Dallas. My first year, the twenty twenty one season, 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: January of twenty twenty two, we played in Dallas and 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: one and then one at home on Sunday. Was a 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: very great personal win on top of a team win. 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Now did you rub it in a little bit to 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: the family back home friends? 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, like in terms of like friends and cousins, people 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: who are texting me. But I will say props to 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: my family. It was still pretty split. I think my 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: siblings wore mostly Cowboys gear, my nephew obviously and Cardinals. 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: But my dad was a big surprise. He was not 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 3: split in his attire. He was just a Cardinals like 42 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: a polo. 43 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: Like. 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: It was a great surprise. I think either way still 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: would have been happy either way of like Cowboys win 46 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 3: or Danny's team wins, right, like win win for him, 47 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: but yes for because everyone was asking what my family's 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: gonna wear, and my dad I thought would be split 49 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: in Cowboys and Cardinals gear, and he was full on Cardinals. 50 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Shouldn't your family, though, support one another, and shouldn't your 51 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: dad especially support his favorite child. 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 3: Oh that's a good point. No, I mean they're still 53 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: supporting regardless. But yeah, so I think it was mostly 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: like my siblings that were in. But that's whatever. It's fine, Okay. 55 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: This really is not a surprise. As much as we 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: talked about it on Sunday and Monday and Tuesday as well, 57 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: that you know, this was something that was not anticipated. 58 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: No one picked the Cardinals to beat the Cowboys. Again, 59 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: you are Danny because she did speak it into existence 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: if you listened and were parts of the Arizona Cardinals 61 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: NFL kickoff show. 62 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: That's why I want to take credit at the Cardinals win. 63 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: But when I was talking to Josh Dobbs before my 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 3: Sideline Exchange interview, we were catching up and I told 65 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: him I worked for the Cowboys before. He was asking 66 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: where I was, and he goes, oh, so this is 67 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: like a revenge game for you, and I said not really, 68 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: I'm not playing, but you know, if you can pull 69 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: out a win, I would be really appreciative, and he laughed. 70 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: So not going to take credit, but if the Cardinals win, 71 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: I may or may not have had. 72 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: Something to doing growing cry inside the Cardinals' locker room. 73 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: Win one for Danny. 74 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: See that's great, what great surprise. Thanks guys. When I 75 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 3: see Josh Dobbs next, I need to personally thank him 76 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: for coming through on that. 77 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: You're basically on a roll here because as an avid 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: listener to Cardinals Underground, it was you that brought up 79 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: as now we do turn the page a little bit 80 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: to this week, it was you that had to bring 81 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: up special Teams, not Paul Calvey you've seen, not Aaron, 82 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: but you brought up special Teams and wouldn't you know it? 83 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: The next day here on Wednesday, what did the NFL do? 84 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: They announced that Matt Prater named NFC Special Teams Player 85 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: of the Week again RANDO plus for day. 86 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: Thank you. Matt Prater also got love on Morning Scrimble 87 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 3: our show Monday morning at ten am the live streams 88 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: on YouTube breaking down the game. So yeah, special teams 89 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: deservingly so sixty two yard field goals incredible by Matt Prater. 90 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: Just the fact that he can do that and the 91 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: fact that he's been in the league so long and 92 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: still has not just the power but everything that goes 93 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: into it, but absolutely the power and the accuracy. Darren 94 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: asked Special Teams corneator Jeff Rodgers last week, basically, if 95 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: NFL fans as a whole, it seems like they take 96 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 3: advantage of accurate kickers because you go out there and 97 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: fans expect every kick to be made, And when you 98 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: have someone like Matt Prater who was so consistent beyond 99 00:04:54,880 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: fifty yards, it's incredible, incredible, very like underrated part of 100 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 3: this Cardinals team is just how reliable Matt Prater is, 101 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 3: especially from distance. 102 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: Prader four kicks, three field goals and one paight and 103 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: obviously the highlight the sixty two yarder, which matched his 104 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: own franchise record, But the dominance and the durability of 105 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: Matt Prader from fifty yards and beyond seventy three career 106 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: makes that's an NFL record, But even more impressive, that 107 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: is fifteen more than the players tied for seconds on 108 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: the list. That's a big disparity. 109 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: He's been doing it for so long and at such 110 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: a high level. It's just it's a great part to 111 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 3: have on this Cardinals team, and it's not easy I 112 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: would imagine as the decision making process because Matt Prader, 113 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: like most NFL players, are confident in their ability and 114 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 3: given its indoors, right, so you're not dealing about any 115 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 3: sort of weather conditions. But even though you've seen Matt 116 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: Prater make kicks from that far in practice, in a 117 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: game time, that's a big decision be made. And so 118 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: the fact that this coaching staff, Jeff Rogers head coach 119 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon trusts Matt Prater, and not just Prader, but 120 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: everybody on special teams that takes a role in that process, 121 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: big props to them. 122 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: It's long snapper, it's the protection, it's the holder, and 123 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: then obviously the kick as well. But yeah, congratulations to 124 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: Matt Prader. Again, the Cardinals did not have a Player 125 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: of the Week at all last season, so this is 126 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: kind of a big deal here in Week three, I 127 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: think thought about that. 128 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 3: But it makes sense when you think about the season. 129 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: But wow, had a great season. By the way. One 130 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: other note about the win on Sunday, because I found 131 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: another benefit when you beat the Dallas Cowboys, because one locally, 132 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about it nationally. The Cardinals did 133 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: get their flowers for the win, although it changed on Tuesday, 134 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: because what does the nation want to talk about, Well, 135 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: what's wrong with the Cowboys? But when they talk about 136 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: what's wrong with the Cowboy when they lose, what do 137 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: they show, Well, they show highlights of the previous game, 138 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: and this week it's all the Cardinal highlights against the Cowboys. 139 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: So there are more eyeballs now on the Cardinals because 140 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: I do think nationally people are starting to take notice. 141 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: Peter King, Albert Breer, they wrote about it. Pat McAfee's 142 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: talking about it on his show Good Morning Football, talking 143 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: about it on the NFL Network. So not a lot 144 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: of expectations for this team going into the season. But 145 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: you play well and are competitive in the first two weeks, 146 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: you go out and surprise everyone, not themselves, but surprise 147 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: everyone with a win over the Cowboys. Now you've got people's. 148 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: Attentions well, and it's not really a fluke if you're 149 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: really following the Cardinals, because week one and week two 150 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: the issues were second half really fourth quarter struggles, but 151 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: the Cardinals had been playing well enough through two weeks. 152 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: I think it was mostly issues that the Cardinals were 153 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: putting themselves in, which it's a little expected when you've 154 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: got a new staff, even though you have an off 155 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: season or whatnot, like this is the real deal now, right, 156 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: It's going to take time for everybody to kind of 157 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: get used to things. You have a new quarterback being 158 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: brought in, of course, you're gonna have some wrinkles to 159 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: work through. So I think now that the Cardinals had 160 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: such a dominating win, it wasn't like it was necessarily 161 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: a close game and it was going back and forth 162 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: Cardinals Cowboys, Like the Cardinals came out and they stomped 163 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: on the Cowboys right from the get go. And I 164 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: think that's a good thing to show that. Okay, this 165 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: Cardinals team that everybody said was going to tank and 166 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 3: everybody said was in a rebuilding year, Okay, maybe it's 167 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: not a rebuild. Sure you can say transition, but you 168 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: can't claim that the Cardinals are trying to tank when 169 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 3: you see the effort and the passion and the force 170 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: in which they are playing with and how that is 171 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: coming out now on the scoreboard. 172 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: Now, of course people are going to want to know 173 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: was Sunday a one off? Can they do it again? 174 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: Now it's going to be an even greater challenge with 175 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, the three undefeated teams left in 176 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: the NFL on the road, although the Cardinals have played 177 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: well in Santa Clara historically, but this is again another 178 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: challenge coming up. On Sunday, October first, one, twenty five 179 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: is the kickoff eight thirty am. Pre game coverage begins 180 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Although I'll say this, 181 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: these first four games Commanders, Giants, Cowboys, forty nine Ers, 182 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: all four teams that Jonathan Gannon and Nick Rollis studied, 183 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: prepared for played against last season, So there is some 184 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: familiarity with these first four games to where or first 185 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: four opponents to where Okay, how much and Rawls talked 186 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: about this a little bit on Tuesday, how much carryover 187 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: not talent, but what they see on film, to where, Okay, 188 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: maybe we can exploit this, perhaps this will work good 189 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: against them doing that, and then you see with this 190 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals talent, whether or not you can use some of 191 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: what you did a year ago to now. 192 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: None of those teams have a new head coach, so 193 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: even though it's different personnel, right for the opponent, you 194 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: still have an idea of what the coaching staff likes 195 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: to do. And even though now the coaching staff, right 196 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: Nick roll As, Jonathangan and any sort of coach that 197 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 3: faced these teams last year, they have different personnel obviously 198 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: with the Cardinals, but again, you're right, you have an 199 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: idea of what it takes and then you look and 200 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 3: you see, Okay, who do we have on our side 201 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: that can help execute what it's going to take to 202 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 3: break down these opponents? Sure right, things change right year 203 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 3: to year. The forty nine ers have now had an 204 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: entire offseason to work with Rock Purty, so things might 205 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: look a little different. But I would imagine that you 206 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: have a good idea of tendencies because a lot of 207 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 3: these teams have so much of the same players, the 208 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 3: same core, that you hope you see that same performance 209 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: carry over now to the forty nine Ers. 210 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: Might be a little bit hard to judge the NFC 211 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: Championship game because brock perty got hurt so early in 212 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: that contest, But again, your point about tendencies, what do 213 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: coaches like to do and then can they do it 214 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: with the personnel that they have. And you look at 215 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: this forty nine Ers offense, which, in the words of 216 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: gannon quote, obviously the scheme is probably the best in 217 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: the world end quote, maybe a little bit coach speak 218 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: build up the opponent, not that they need any more 219 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: building up than they already are at three to zero, 220 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: and maybe one of the better teams in the league, 221 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: if not the best team. But that is a scary 222 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: good offense when you look at your playmakers, even the 223 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: offensive line with Trent Williams anchoring that unit on the 224 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: left side. But whether it's the quarterback, the running back, 225 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: the wide receivers, the tight end, it is a daunting 226 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: task for not only the team but the coaches as 227 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: well to figure out you're not going to stop them, 228 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: but how do you slow them down to give your 229 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: off an opportunity to perhaps put some points on the 230 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: board and maybe not make it a high scoring game 231 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: and keep the forty nine ers for the first time 232 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: all season under thirty points. 233 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: Not to take away from the other teams in the league, 234 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: I don't know that you face any other offense that 235 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: has a player in their respective position that you could 236 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: argue is one of the top in their positions. Deebo, 237 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: Samuel Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle, Trent Williams. They have so 238 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: many options and it seems like they are just so 239 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: cohesive and they can do so many different things, and 240 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: that's not an easy offense you have to defend. And 241 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: on the other side of the ball, their defense is 242 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: the only team in the league that hasn't allowed for 243 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 3: a passing play of twenty or more yards. Defensive tackle Hargrave, 244 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: why my not. Davon Hargrave alone, thank you, has eighteen 245 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: quarterback pressures through three weeks. It's almost like impossible when 246 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: you look at this team top down, on every side 247 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: of the ball to say, Okay, this is the week 248 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: spot that we can try and take advantage of. You 249 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: could say that to a certain extent from the Cowboys 250 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 3: really on their defense right especially before Trayvon Diggs, their 251 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: cornerback was out for the year with an ACL injury. 252 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: But truly, when you look at this forty nine Ers team, 253 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: it is hard to spot the week spot. 254 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: Hardgrave a former Eagle, so this Cardinals coaching staff Etlise 255 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Scannon and Rawl is familiar with what he's capable of doing. 256 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: Signed with the forty nine Ers four years, eighty four 257 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: million dollar free agent deal in the offseason. But looking 258 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: at this forty nine Ers offense and again next gen stats, 259 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: something that we get in our mailbox each and every Wednesday. 260 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: The offense the number one pre snap motion offense in 261 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: the league. That means some kind of shifts, some kind 262 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: of receiver going in motion. They do it almost eighty 263 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: three percent of the snaw there is eye candy, making 264 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: it real difficult for defenses to figure out what you're 265 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: trying to do. Former Cardinal former colleague Bertrand Barry, who 266 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: participated works here on the Arizona Cardinals radio network for 267 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: a number of years, always talked about when you talk 268 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: about a defense, your eyes, where are your eyes looking? 269 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: What are they telling you? And do you get distracted 270 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: by all that motion that the forty nine ers like 271 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: to do. Whether again it's a running back, tied end 272 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver, but almost eighty three percent of the snaps 273 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: have some kind of movement before the ball is snapped 274 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: by the center. 275 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: But you know, we saw a little more of that 276 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: with Rondel Moore against the Cowboys and there were some 277 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: successful ensuing plays. So I wonder now if we're going 278 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: to see a little bit more emotion from the Cardinals standpoint. 279 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: But you're right, this defense is going to have to 280 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: be on their a game and I actually asked Jonathan 281 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: Gannon about Kaiser White calling the defense at his Wednesday 282 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: press compference, because I don't know if you've noticed this, 283 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: but it seems like the defense is not scrambling to 284 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: get set like the call. Seem like they're getting in. 285 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: Kaiser White is distributing that call, he is making adjustments 286 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: that need to be made. It seems like everybody is 287 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 3: in their place. And that's something that Gannon said is 288 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: very important to him is when the offense breaks the huddle, 289 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: he wants their defense, all eleven players to already have 290 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: eyes and be looking and seeing what they need to adjust. 291 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: That's going to be really important against an offense like 292 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers. 293 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: Before he got hurt, Buddha Baker was in his locker 294 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: during open media availability and Paul Calvic and I were 295 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: just chatting with Buddha about how things have gone early 296 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: on in the season, and he talked about that specifically 297 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: with Kaizier White having that green dot the play calls 298 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: from the sideline getting in so early to where the 299 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: defense is set. They're not scrambling, they're not thinking wondering 300 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do? Because that's the call 301 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: that I just got they have the call with plenty 302 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: of time on the play clock before the offense knows 303 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: what they're perhaps going to do after looking at what 304 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: the defense has set, so there's not confusion, there's no 305 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: need for a timeout on defense because all of a 306 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: sudden something happened that wait a second, what am I 307 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: supposed to do here? What are we supposed to do here? 308 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: So I do think it's one of those underrated situations 309 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: so far in the season. Again, three games early sample size, 310 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: but the value of having a Kaiser White new to 311 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: the team but not new to the defense, and why 312 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: that offseason signing was so important. 313 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: And on the other side of the ball, I don't 314 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: want to keep doing comparing coaching staffs right because now 315 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: we're far enough into the gan And era that this 316 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: is what we should be talking about. But I do 317 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 3: think it's important that you look at that specific of 318 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: getting set and ready to go on offense. Because how 319 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: many times last year did this team have to burn 320 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: a time out because the call wasn't in or somebody 321 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: wasn't set. I don't know the number, but I know 322 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: it was more than one, and that means it's one 323 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: too many. 324 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: It was a lot and a lot of it was 325 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: captured by TV cameras quarterback and head coach not seeing 326 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: eye to eye, and it's a bad look. Yes, it's 327 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: you don't want to use your timeouts in those situations. 328 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: He Gannon even talked about it earlier on Wednesday, that 329 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: you want to save those timeouts for end of half, 330 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: end of game, to the point where sometimes if that 331 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: play clock is going down, we'll give up the five 332 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 1: yards in the first quarter, in the third quarter, depending 333 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: on where they are within the field position, because you 334 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: don't want to burn one of year three that you 335 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: have each half. 336 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: I just think those subtle things, and that's not me 337 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: trying to knock previous coaches, but I think those subtle 338 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: things are part of the reason we feel like we 339 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 3: are seeing such a difference in how this team is operating, 340 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: not just through the week, but also on game day. 341 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: Well prepared team starts with the coaching staff giving the 342 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: assignment to the players. Nick Rowlas on Tuesday asked how 343 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: long he gave himself time to celebrate that first win. 344 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, got in the car. By the time 345 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: I got home, I was ready to move on. Which 346 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: you think about and you're like how. But as we've 347 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: talked about now, Jonathan Gannon didn't savor that win much, 348 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: if at all. There was some smiles, some handshakes on 349 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: the sideline, but once that water was dumped over him 350 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: by Kyier White, I think that basically cleansed him of 351 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: the win and he was already looking forward to the 352 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: San Francisco game. 353 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: I mean, from what we know about Jonathan Gannon's personality, 354 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 3: it doesn't really surprise me. I would imagine that part 355 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: of the reason from these first time not just Jonathan 356 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: as a head coach, but first time coordinator, is a 357 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: lot of this coaching stat first time they have a 358 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 3: role in the NFL, the expectation is to win. So 359 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: while it is exciting and a personal victory of getting 360 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: that first win and having some sense of self validation 361 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: that the work that has been done in the meeting 362 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 3: rooms on the field since the moment they got here 363 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 3: eight nine months ago, you have that validation of Okay, 364 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: we've seen that the work we're doing does pay off. 365 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I would understand your expectation 366 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 3: is to win, so you don't want to make a 367 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: whole thing about getting your first win and now being 368 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: one and two. I understand that of okay, you know what, 369 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 3: let's stay composed. Maybe when we get to your house 370 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 3: and you're with your family, right you celebrate. I did 371 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: love seeing though, the excitement and the passion and the 372 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: energy of general manager Money Austin Fort getting his first 373 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: win after putting this team, helping put this staff together. 374 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: He was on the ramp the tunnel right off the field, 375 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: right in front of the locker room, and he was 376 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 3: dapping up and hugging every single person that walked by him. 377 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: Safety Kavon Wallace didn't really see what was happening and 378 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 3: walked past him and Austin for it turned around and 379 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 3: grabbed Wallace to celebrate with him, to make sure he 380 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: didn't miss anybody. It was so exciting and so heartwarming 381 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: to see like, okay, like this is this is a 382 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: great moment. 383 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: To that point, there is a great photo gallery up 384 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: on Acycardinals dot com that our photographer Kaitlyn Epps put 385 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: up that she does each and every week, but this 386 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: particular photo gallery does have pictures inside the locker room. 387 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: Yes GM mony Austin Ford, Yes head coach Jonathan Gennon 388 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: both received game balls from owner Michael Bidwell, So I 389 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: think that has special meeting as well. Now, again it's 390 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: moving forward and there's going to be bumps along the way. 391 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: But are you learning from past mistakes and not repeating 392 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: those same mistakes, whether that's the coaching staff or the players. 393 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: And in particular, there were a lot of eyeballs on 394 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: this previous game on Marco Wilson, and he got picked 395 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: on against the Giants a lot, but he responded and 396 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: played much better against the Cowboys than he did against 397 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: the Giants. Then, of course it was the reverse because 398 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: key Trew Clark got picked on by the Cowboys after 399 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: a good game against the Giants. But I do think 400 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen, especially playing that position, in the cornerback 401 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: position and playing as many snaps as both of those 402 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: guys do this team. Danny is only playing two corners. 403 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton is not seen at barely seeing any time 404 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: on the football field. Defensively, Christian Matthew, I still don't 405 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: think has played a defensive snap. So you're running out 406 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: there two cornerbacks, and the challenge this week is, okay, well, 407 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: what do you do when you have Deebo Samuel Brandon 408 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: Ayuk and don't forget about the tight end George Kittle. 409 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: Is that Jalen Thompson working against Kittle? Typically that would 410 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: be Buddha Baker. But the challenge this week is there's 411 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: not just one pass catcher. There are multiple pass catchers. 412 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: And don't forget about Christian McCaffrey out of the backfield. 413 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a long list of players that this Cardinals 414 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: defense is going to have to keep their eye on. 415 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 3: I did like the way this Cardinal secondary shut down 416 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 3: the Cowboys number one receiver in Ceedee Lamb. Lamb entered 417 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: Sunday's game, accounting for more than half the Cardinal's four 418 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 3: hundred receiving yards, walked away Sunday with fifty three. Now, 419 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 3: there were some big plays to Michael Gallup, Brandon Cooks, right, 420 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: but the fact is the secondary shut down their opponent's 421 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 3: number one receiver. That's what you want to ask for, 422 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: That's what you want to see week after week. I 423 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: do like that we saw improvement for Marco Wilson. I 424 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: think now that he's been in the league for a 425 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: few years, that's important to see the mental strength and 426 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: being able to bounce back, and I think we've seen 427 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: that from the rookie Kee Trell Clark, and that's what 428 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 3: we've heard from Gannon, what we've heard from Rawless of 429 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: cornerback is a position where you can have fifty plays right, 430 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: You can have fifty passes thrown your way, and you 431 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: can defend forty eight of them. But those two are 432 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: the two that can be seen around the country that 433 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: everybody's going to be talking about. You have to have 434 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: the mind of a goldfish, one play at a time, 435 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: and then you move on from the previous play and 436 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,239 Speaker 3: you focus on what's ahead. I think we've seen that 437 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 3: resiliency from Clark, which is impressive early on three games 438 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 3: in your career, and we're already taking note on that. 439 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 3: Somebody who really prepares well for the game and seems 440 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 3: like he is strong enough mentally as well to handle 441 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 3: what comes with that position. 442 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: And a Day three draft pick, someone that you hope 443 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: has a role, maybe a reserve role, not a starting role. 444 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: Darn near number one cornerback, pushing Marco Wilson to be 445 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: CB one on this defense at least until we see 446 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: what Garrett Williams can do, because right now he remains 447 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: on the NFI list. One more game left October two. Danny, 448 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: you and I were talking about it at practice earlier 449 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Everyone is pointing to Kyler Murray being activated 450 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: on Monday. Whether he is or not, who knows. But 451 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: there are other players that this team could activate, my 452 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: Jay Sanders. But Garrett Williams, how close is he to 453 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: being able to practice and be available on Sundays. 454 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: It's a great question. It's similar to bj Ojelari because 455 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: Ojelari didn't have an offseason, which is very important for 456 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 3: a rookie, and so we've talked with side linebackers coach 457 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: Robert Riguez that Ojelari is still needing some time the 458 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: things he's going through right now. All the other players 459 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: were getting to experience and learn what those reps from 460 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: preseason and training camp that he was recovering from an injury, 461 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 3: so he didn't get that. I would expect to see 462 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 3: the same when Garrett Williams returns from his ACL injury. 463 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: He didn't have an offseason, he hasn't had any reps, 464 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: and he's a rookie. So even if he does get 465 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 3: activated Monday, I don't know what a realistic timeline is 466 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: for how many weeks Garrett Williams is going to need 467 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 3: to practice. You have, I believe, three weeks to sign 468 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: him to the active roster, and you have to write 469 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 3: and make some spots and have him active on game 470 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: day even still, right if you wait the last minute, 471 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: you wait those three weeks. How many reps is Williams 472 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 3: going to be able to get early on in the season. 473 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 3: I think maybe late in the season it could be 474 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 3: realistic if Williams is coming off the NFL list as 475 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 3: early as he can. I think later in the season 476 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 3: would be more realistic to kind of see what we 477 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: will see in the future from Williams. So that'll be 478 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 3: interesting of will this coaching staff stay with two cornerbacks? 479 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: Are you going to start to rotate a little more? 480 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 3: Are we going to see cornerbacks maybe start to travel? 481 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: Are they going to stay on the same side. When 482 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: Garrett Williams comes back, and however long it's going to 483 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: take him to fully recover enough to really start playing 484 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 3: active snaps in a game, it'll be interesting to see 485 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: how that affects that room. 486 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: You drafted him for a reason in the third round. 487 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: You drafted him knowing that he was not going to 488 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: be available in all likelihood, Although I remember on draft night. 489 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: He did mention that he hoped to be cleared medically 490 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: cleared in July. He was not or at least not 491 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: able to do anything on the football field. And I 492 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: think again with a draft pick, a Day two selection, 493 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: it's the long term play versus the short term play. 494 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: Making sure Williams is ready for a long career, not 495 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: just week one of this season. Obviously he was not, 496 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: though he is anxious. I had a chance to chat 497 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: with him a little bit earlier on Wednesday, introduced myself 498 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: to him. Of course, the Syracuse Connection had to mention 499 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: that I was. I dated myself a class of ninety six. 500 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: He was born in two thousand and one. But besides 501 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: the point, I had to make sure that you know, 502 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: we welcomed him, the Orange alums welcomed him here with 503 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. But you could just tell that he 504 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: is ready now ready in what sense? To your point, Danny, Yeah, 505 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: you can get activated, start practicing. But if he gets 506 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: activated next week, three practices and a walk through, is 507 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: that enough time to play? I don't think so. And 508 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: that goes with Kyler Murray as well and my j Sanders. 509 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: I just don't think you're going to see those players 510 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: get activated and then be available within a week. 511 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 3: I don't think that's a really I agree. I don't 512 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 3: think that's a realistic expectation, especially with the rookie and 513 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 3: Garrett Williams. It's one thing to rehab and have his 514 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: body get sore and put his body through what he can. 515 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 3: He's not allowed to participate in any sort of practice. 516 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: He's not allowed to touch a football out at practice 517 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 3: like when the other team is practicing, so he has 518 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: not been able to do anything. So when he starts 519 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: practicing and putting his body through that and having to 520 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: be sore in a way that he probably hasn't been 521 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: in a long time, making sure that what he's been 522 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 3: learning by watching film in meeting rooms, how quickly can 523 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 3: he put that together out on the field. There's still 524 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 3: going to be so much this coaching staff is going 525 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: to have to see from Garrett Williams before you feel 526 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 3: confident in putting him out there on a game day. 527 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: Also from practice, Josh Woods working out on the side, 528 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: which which is good whether or not he's available this week. 529 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: He's missed two games now with an ankle injury. Did 530 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: not see Chris Barnes, Oh excuse me, Chris Barnes was 531 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: at practice me correct myself. He was participating despite hurting 532 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: his hand in the game, so. 533 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 3: That hand was wrapped. 534 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: It was it was not a huge club, but just in. 535 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 3: His fingers were out. 536 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that injury allowed Ezekiel Turner to play a 537 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: little bit more defense, especially late in the game, gets 538 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: some extra snats. But yeah, that defense and knock on 539 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: will we aren't talking about this offensively at all this season, 540 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: but that defense continues to suffer an injury at least 541 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: won a game sometimes too, and it's always that next 542 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: man up. Rallis likes the depth they have, but that 543 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: depth is getting tested so far this season and we're 544 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: only three games in. 545 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: The good news is it seems like we can expect 546 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: outside linebackers, even Collins to play this week. He left 547 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 3: the game early with an eye injury, so he's been practiced. 548 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: He was out practice Ondesday. I think he'll wear a 549 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 3: visor even on game day, just to protect his eye. 550 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 3: And for people who because I used to think this 551 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: of like an eye injury, like you get poked in 552 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: the eye, Like okay, yeah, I'm sure that hurts. But 553 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 3: I remember when I was with the Cowboys one year 554 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: and I can't for the life you remember which D 555 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: lineman it was, But there was a D lineman who 556 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: had the same injury. He got poked in the eye 557 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: during a game, and for the better part of the 558 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 3: next week, whenever we were in the locker room for 559 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: open media, he was wearing sunglasses. So near the end 560 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: of the week there were a few of us and 561 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: we were talking about it. He was like, do you 562 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: guys want to see it? And he took off his 563 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: glasses and even after a week, I mean, his eye 564 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: was no offense disgusting like the colors, the bruising like 565 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: his eye was still red. It looked so painful. So 566 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 3: if anybody's thinking like Zaman left because he got poked 567 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: in the eye and didn't come back, I mean, there's 568 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 3: so much going on and your hands getting shoved in 569 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: your face right like that hurts. So it is very 570 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: good news that as early as Wednesday Zaven Collins was 571 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 3: back on the practice field. Didn't seem limited to any way. 572 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: Well, all you have to do out there is just 573 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: put one hand over an eye and then walk around 574 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: and go about your day with one eye covered. And 575 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: then you come back and talk to us here on 576 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: Cardinal's cover two on just how easy your day was, 577 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: because it's not. You lose one eye. Yeah, that kind 578 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: of loses not only death perception, but being able to 579 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: see out of the corner of your eye whatever you're 580 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: doing that particular day. So yeah, hopefully Zavin is back 581 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: this week and it's something that he can play through 582 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: as that eye gets better. One other practice note, and 583 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: it was post practice Wednesday means sideline exchange. This week's guest. 584 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: Is offensive lineman Paris Johnson Junior. 585 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: It's a big two week stretch for mister Johnson. Last 586 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: week was Michael Parsons. This week it's Nick Bosa. 587 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: I know, back to back difficult task, but they held 588 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: their own against Parsons essentially made him a non factor. 589 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 3: So Paris is always fun. It's always a fun to 590 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: get to talk to him. I felt so small, so 591 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: small standing next to him. But that interview will be 592 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 3: up Thursday on website, official YouTube channel, Twitter, all the 593 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: good stuff. 594 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: And for those that have been watching these sideline exchanges 595 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: so far this season, that it's not a standing interview anymore. 596 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: Otherwise I would suggest the stool, the Paul Cobb, the 597 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: Paul CALVC stool. 598 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: The box is the box. 599 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but now it's a walking talk which you unless 600 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: you're wearing your heels, wear like. 601 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 3: Platforms or something, get like stilts or something to walk 602 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 3: next to some of these players, or just. 603 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: Have it shot a different way to make you seem taller, 604 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: which would maybe make him seem even more taller. So 605 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: probably you don't want to do. 606 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: That, no, no, but they're fun. Yeah, so check that 607 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: out Thursday. I appreciate that. 608 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: We'll be up on Easycardinals dot com, the Cardinals official 609 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: YouTube channel, all social channels, and of course at Danny 610 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: Srek as well. That's right at Danny Surrek or Underscore 611 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: s Crek, I can't remember. 612 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: It's just at Danny sirach at. 613 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: Danny s Rec. Okay, by the way, happy anniversary, thanks. 614 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 3: It's my two year anniversary today this Wednesday. It's crazy. 615 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 3: It's flown by man. 616 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 1: It's really only felt like two weeks. 617 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 3: I know, it's crazy, like I it's just the season 618 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: goes by so fast, and it's my second year, but 619 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: really my third season because I was here for most 620 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty one. But it's been great, still having 621 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: a blast out here. 622 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: The off seasons have been a little bit longer than 623 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: we all want because of as much news both. 624 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 3: On and not having a longer season. Yeah, turn things. 625 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: Around, and it starts with the win against the Cowboys. 626 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: What a great win. I mean, if you're going to 627 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: make a statement win for your first win as a team, 628 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 3: as a head coach, the quarterback Josh Dobbs first career win. 629 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: I mean, what a team, what a game to get 630 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: that win. 631 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: You spoke spoken into existence the win. You spoke Matt 632 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: Prater into existence, getting the player of the week on 633 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: or So what's next? What what can we have? You say, 634 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: speak into existence for this week? 635 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: Do I want to do offense or defense? You have 636 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: to help me out. Should I do offense or defense? 637 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want, because again, the challenge 638 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: is a big one regardless of what side of the ball. 639 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 3: You know what, Let's let's predict. Let's manifest a pick six. Okay, 640 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 3: let's manifest a pick six. That's what we're gonna do. 641 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: All right, Cardinals plus one on the turnover margin each 642 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: of the first three games. You want to call out 643 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: a player? 644 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 3: Ooh, this is like when you're playing pool and you 645 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: have to call the pocket for the eight ball. I 646 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: am not good at pool. Let's give a pick six? Well, 647 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 3: Kaiser white Ton interception, Jalen Thompson. Should we give rookie 648 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: Keetrell Clark? Should we say this is his week? Okay 649 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 3: it let's give it to Key Troll Clark pick six. 650 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 3: But ain't out in the universe. 651 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: Rock Party has not thrown an interception, let alone a 652 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: pick six yet this season. So all right, so he's due, Yes, 653 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: which is what we said pregame about Deck. 654 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: That's right, let's do that's right. 655 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens again. Sunday, October first, one, 656 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: twenty five, Danny will be at Levi Stadium. I'll just 657 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 1: be in studio, watching and enjoying everything from. 658 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 3: The comfort of a You got to give me some 659 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 3: recommendations for your hometown. 660 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: Dearon's been there a while, Calvic knows what's going on. 661 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I trust your recommendations. 662 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: If you gotta gotta get time to go into the 663 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: city or no, I've got the itinerary yet. 664 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 3: No, okay, but we'll probably get in around dinner time Saturday. 665 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: Okay, not to think about it. 666 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, go back to me. You know where I sat. 667 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 2: I do. 668 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: I come down often say hello, you do and I 669 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: love it. Okay, got that? Make sure you get that 670 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: Cody for this week's for this week's pregame show, So 671 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: we manifest things here on Cardinals Cover two. And on 672 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: that note, we'll put a lid on this edition of 673 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, pro partner of the 674 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive producer 675 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: Jim Moo Mahundra, our associate producer Cody Fincher for Danny Sirek, 676 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: I'm Craig real Lou. We'll talk to you next time 677 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two.