1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I'm landing highatt Gannon's mom, 2 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: and I encourage you, guys, I know many of your 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: mothers and fathers. I encourage you just to seek find him. 4 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm so thankful for all the outpouring help that this 5 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: case has brought. My son is a very loving kid. 6 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: He wouldn't want harm on anybody at all, and it's 7 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: so hard to just think, why is this happening to him? 8 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: I have no clue, and my kid deserves to come home. 9 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: My kid has a purpose. My kid has a life, 10 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: and it's important to me and it support it to 11 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: everybody that's standing in this room. Dannon, Baba, little man, 12 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: Mommy's hero. Wherever you're at, Mommy and Daddy's here. We're 13 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: begging and pleading for you to come home. I know 14 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: that's your biggest wishes to see mommy and daddy standing here. 15 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Hearing her voice is breaking my heart. That as a 16 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: presser at the Opasso County Sheriff's office, the mother of 17 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: this little boy again and stars just eleven years old, 18 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: begging for his safe return. That was the land and speaking. 19 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: Where is eleven year old Gannon Stouch, the Colorado Boy 20 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: vanishes after leaving home to visit a friend's house days ago. 21 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for 22 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: being with us, with me an all star panel to 23 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: break it down put it back together again tipline seven 24 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: one nine five two zero six six six six repeat 25 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: seven one nine five two zero six six six six 26 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Jason Oshan's New York defense attorney Cloyd Steiger thirty six 27 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: years sea old, PD homicide detective and author of Seattle's 28 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Forgotten serial Killer, Gary Jean Grant, Joseph Scott Morgan and 29 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: Professor forensics Jacksonville State University author Blood Beneath My Feet 30 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: on Amazon. Karen Stark, New York psychologist at Karen Stark 31 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: dot com. But right now to Ann Emerson WCIV, ABC four, 32 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: joining us and tell me first about Gannon's disappearance. What happened. 33 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: What they understand right now, Nancy, is that Gannon shouts 34 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: see eleven year old disappear from his father's home. He 35 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: lived there with his father and his stepmother, just a 36 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: little suburb outside of Colorado Springs. And what we're understanding 37 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: is that he was reported missing after he had left 38 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: the house. He was wearing a blue jacket and sneakers 39 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: in the jeans. He said he was going to go 40 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: see a friend. It was on the afternoon, around three thirty. 41 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: They think that he told his stepmomy's going to go 42 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: out and see a friend, and that was the last 43 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: time he saw Dan himself. Okay, wait a minute, Wait 44 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: a minute, Wait a minute. So he says, do we 45 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: know what time of the day or nine it was 46 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: that he went to go see the friend. We think 47 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: it's about between three and four, is what they've narrowed 48 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: it down to. The step mom said it was around 49 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: three thirty is what they're going with. Okay, wait a minute, 50 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: Wait a minute. January twenty seven, that is a school day. 51 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: That was he in school that day? Well, we've been 52 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: told that. The stepmom says that he was not in 53 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: school today. We don't want to have a clear answer 54 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: why she said. We've heard a couple of things, one 55 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: that he was sick and the one that he had 56 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: a doctor's appointment so he had stayed home that day. 57 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: Of course, No, no, no, no, I don't like it. 58 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: I don't like it one bit in Emerson, because number one, 59 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: why can't we get a clear answer? Are you telling 60 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: me an. We don't know if he was in school 61 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: or he was not in school recording it. It's been 62 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: reported already that he was not in school and that 63 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: the sheriff saw As has said, Okay, right there. And 64 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't like it because if he was so ill 65 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: he had to stay home from school, he would not 66 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: be going out and visiting, walking around the neighborhood. If 67 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: he had a doctor's appointment, he would have gone to 68 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: the doctor's appointment and then gone to school if he 69 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: wasn't ill. Okay, go ahead, Ann Emerson w c I 70 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: V ABC four. Well, Nancy said, what we hear now 71 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: is that at three fifteen, so that the child's gone 72 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: to Um, wait a minute, Jason Oceans wants in and 73 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: Emerson hold on. Jason Oceans fils he needs to be heard. 74 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: Jason Otions, what do you do with conflicting statements? If 75 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: all these statements come from your client, what do you do? Hey, 76 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: You're trying to get hold of your client right away 77 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: to stop talking. That's the first thing, Nancy. But but relative, 78 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: wait a minute. You paid three years of law school 79 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: tuition to tell me tell her to stop talking. You 80 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: got to come up with something better than that. Okay, 81 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: isn't that The first thing is the h you know, 82 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: the not to incriminate yourself. So clearly you'd rather have 83 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: the evidence by the people be produced beyond the preponderance 84 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: of reasonable doubt for a conviction rather than have your 85 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: own client and get your own case, wouldn't you, Nancy, Well, yeah, 86 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: but I mean the house the horses out of the barn. Jason, Okay, 87 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: she's already said it all or else. I guess if 88 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: I were thinking, you know, when you want to catch 89 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: a varmaut, you got to think like a varmint. I'm 90 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: referring specifically to defense lawyers as the varmint. What I'm saying, yeah, 91 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: you got to think like a varmint. And that's a 92 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: quote I believe from Caddyshack. Wow. And what I'm saying 93 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: is a defense lawyer will explain away all of the 94 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: different statements and may say, well, no. What I said 95 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: was we had been planning to take a hike that afternoon, 96 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: but he wanted to go see a friend and that 97 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: got twisted up and I was goodna get a doctor's appointment. Yeah, 98 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: I mean, you come up with wily ways to explain 99 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: everything all day. That's part of you know, but parsing 100 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: through the story and what happened. He was home, he 101 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: didn't feel well that day, but he felt better. He 102 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: was going to go see his friend. That wouldn't be 103 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: uncommon too. Didn't feel well in the morning. Maybe he 104 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: was playing hookie for an exam or something. That step 105 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: mom was being nice about it. Let him go and 106 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: now to the end of school time for the day. Anyway, 107 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: go see a friend. So all those things in your 108 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: wily varmint way as you describe counsel, they're all certainly plausible. 109 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: I know your spidy senses thing. Well, I hope you're 110 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: sitting down, Jason Nations, I hope you're sitting down because 111 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: now we're getting another claim from the stepmother. Take a 112 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: listener for us at KKTVCBSLV. This is Spencer Wilson. You've 113 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: been a part of the investigation since the very first time. 114 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: You were the last person to see him. Is that 115 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: right correct? What what did you see when you asked him? Well, 116 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to talk about anything with the case. 117 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: I would more so be willing to talk about how 118 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: the community needs to have faith and it's you to 119 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: work together and not make these false accusations, like the 120 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: things that have been said that I've disappeared from the community. 121 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: I haven't been there to help. But there's lots of 122 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: reasons behind that reason, like death threats right right, death 123 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: threats are one of them. My family is getting lots 124 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: of death threats. We counted over twenty some death threats 125 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: already to my husband's ex wife is living in our home. 126 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: And of course I'm not coming home to do these 127 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: things and to help with the family when I was 128 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: kind of like told I couldn't, And then many other 129 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: things that happened with the Opasso County Police Department, you know, 130 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: and in doing investigation, I was told I was a compliant. 131 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace, it's so special together. I 132 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: think many people could understand. My child was a one 133 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: pound six el baby. He had a ten percent chance 134 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: or survival. If he survived, he would be profoundly disabled. 135 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: None of that is accurate. He's gifted and talented do 136 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: anything for anybodybody. So I'm begging, I'm pleading, if anybody 137 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: has any type of lead, put yourself in my situation, 138 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: ask yourself, what would you do. My savior is a 139 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: great savior, and I know I have hope, and then 140 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: my son's going to be here. I'm thankful for the churches, 141 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: the pastors, the outpoort and support from this community, from 142 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: Albert's military family, everybody, the detectives I had. It was 143 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: you that was sitting at the table and you told 144 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: me that ninety percent success rate, and you told me 145 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna find Againning. I believe that. So first 146 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: time I had hope since I got that call on Monday. 147 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: You are the mom, the bio mom of Gannon starts 148 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: age eleven, now missing over six days now, and what 149 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: time I've got so many questions. I'm sorry, Ann Emerson, 150 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: And what time is he reported missing? So he was 151 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: reported missing to the El Paso Sheriff's office, that the 152 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: County Sheriff's office there at six fifty five pm. They 153 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: receive a call of a runaway child. By seven thirty two, 154 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 1: they are already treating this as an active runaway situation, 155 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: runaway situation based on what the stepmom has said. So 156 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: this is what keeps bothering me about this too. The 157 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: child doesn't take his cell phone, he doesn't tell the 158 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: stepmom where he's going, and supposedly the dad even says 159 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: at one point, you know, he would have said where 160 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: he was going. So it's it's bothering people about that 161 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: he's gone off several streets away to a friend that 162 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: he's not saying who it is, just like a hoodie. 163 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: He's wearing a hoodie in call Rato in the afternoon, 164 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: which is scary because that's the cold weather just got 165 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: way in, you know, last time she seized him. He's 166 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: heading out for this friend's house. And remember at this 167 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: point in time, this time of year, we're in the wintertime. 168 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: It's going to start to turn dark, you know, towards 169 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: four thirty five o'clock, this sort of thing. And to 170 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: our reporter's comment earlier, you know, why does he leave 171 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: the house and he's only wearing a hoodie. He doesn't 172 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: have a heavy jacket on. And Emerson, what about the 173 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: step mom claiming that she's getting death threats and moved 174 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: out of the house. That is her claim as far 175 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: as moving out of the house, she said that she 176 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: just she couldn't be there because I guess, Dolly, I 177 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: mean reading between the lines to her, the biological mom 178 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: just came from South Carolina to hear that her son 179 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: is missing and is in the house. And now we 180 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: hear from the stepmom that she doesn't feel welcome and 181 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: she wants to know apology from her husband. When it's 182 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: all over, take a listen to Gannon's dad, Albert Stock, Well, well, 183 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: what an incredible community we have. I mean everybody eitherre 184 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: in a team. Incredible team that. Um yeah, I came 185 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: out my front door. I think it was Tuesday and 186 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: there was three hundred people out there searching my neighborhood. 187 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: Let me get away. So thank you everyone, Thank you again. 188 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: And daddy loaves so much. And with that, his dad 189 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: breaks down in tears. 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