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Speaker 1: What is up?

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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: Stuff Podcast. I'm sure we will talk about that putrid

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Speaker 2: loss that happened yesterday on Sunday at some point in

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Speaker 2: this episode. Because we are doing a viewer voicemail episode,

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Speaker 2: social media, metstup. We ask you guys to send us

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Speaker 2: some voicemails, questions, comments, concerns, feelings, vibes, whatever it is

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Speaker 2: we wanted to hear from you guys, and you guys

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Speaker 2: came through. We got a bunch of messages, so we're

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Speaker 2: just simply going to listen to those. Answer your guys questions,

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Speaker 2: react to what you have to say. Again, what a horrible,

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Speaker 2: horrible game on Sunday. We will talk about it way

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Speaker 2: more in depth in tomorrow's episode that comes out after

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Speaker 2: the National series recap and after the series ends. But

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Speaker 2: for now, let's see what the people have got to say.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you're subscribe to the YouTube channel, follow us

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Speaker 2: on Discord and James, you want to go ahead and

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Speaker 2: play that first voicemail, yep, first one.

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Speaker 3: Is from our guy Brandon. So here's here's Brandon's voicemail.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Martin James, I'm just starting disappointed with today's loss.

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Speaker 4: You're at seven to one and it's a very unacceptable

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Speaker 4: to whose game on this and you have to play better.

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Speaker 4: You had changes to in onto your one. You can

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Speaker 4: not take in places you have to score one. So

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Speaker 4: when you think we can do better, how to be

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Speaker 4: learned from this? Especially Buto who has been truggling, and

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Speaker 4: mind Stack can Bolt who stays in the series.

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Speaker 3: What do you think they do?

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Speaker 4: I don't think we're in trouble, but.

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Speaker 3: You have it been two times speed. I accidentally had

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Speaker 3: two times speed. Sorry Brandon that sorry aciently I had

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Speaker 3: two times speed. That was my bad. But I figure

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Speaker 3: I figured a lot of these voicemails we were going

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Speaker 3: to get. We're going to be about this game because

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Speaker 3: we opened up the uh you know, the air quotes

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Speaker 3: phone lines right after the loss happens, because we wanted

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Speaker 3: some missing reactions from it. Because again big recap episode

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Speaker 3: coming tomorrow like we always do at the end of

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Speaker 3: every series. But needs a mission reaction because that game

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Speaker 3: was so futured, and I think the things to take

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Speaker 3: from this are one, I agree with Brandon that there's

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Speaker 3: a bit of a Jose Bhuttou problem. And I've been

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Speaker 3: the statch to support of Jose Buto since since the

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Speaker 3: beginning here. This is a Jose podcast, It has been

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Speaker 3: and forever will be. But it's a problem. He's not

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Speaker 3: getting ahead of Hithers. He's not finishing hitters either, he's

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Speaker 3: not getting them out. The slider's not moving the right way.

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Speaker 3: The change up can only do so much as a

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Speaker 3: right handed picture, especial one without elite vloscly like we

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Speaker 3: see Browse Oban do this, lots of change ups from

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Speaker 3: arriety Bee throws ninety eight, but Bhuto does not. And

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Speaker 3: as and this was like, this was kind of a

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Speaker 3: spot where you bring Bhuto into to kind of build

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Speaker 3: and build up his confidence, and the exact opposite happened

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Speaker 3: with Riley Adams. It's a three run home er with

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Speaker 3: two strikes and you're like, you just can't really believe

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Speaker 3: what's happening right now. But that's kind of the other

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Speaker 3: thing is to take the thing that also and Brandon

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Speaker 3: upset about when this game had ended was actually what

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Speaker 3: got no runs home. And that was a situation to

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Speaker 3: me where I was like, oh, this is a recipe

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Speaker 3: for disaster, Like if you tack on there the game's over,

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Speaker 3: you kind of kill their spirit. But not being able

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Speaker 3: is terrible, And a big part of that. Another last

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Speaker 3: one mention for brand this here was the starling Marte

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Speaker 3: getting up there and said, Jesse Winker right hand a

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Speaker 3: picture on it. I didn't really understand that. I can't understand.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess he was technically swinging it well

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Speaker 3: that game, Martee, but like in that instance, like it's

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Speaker 2: No, And like even with Winker he still gets on

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Speaker 2: plate where it's just going to be a higher quality

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Speaker 2: the argument that there was a left handed pitcher warming

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Speaker 2: It felt like we were holding Winker for a spot

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Speaker 2: that was never possibly going to come, or that was

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Speaker 2: the spots and I think, yeah, I'm saying that was

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Speaker 2: for Akunya.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand where Jesse Ware could have been besides

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Speaker 2: that spot. And yet the Jose Buddo prom it's weird

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Speaker 2: because you can't get.

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Speaker 3: Rid of this guy.

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Speaker 2: He's too good to be a guy that you dfa

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Speaker 2: send down. You said he has no options left, so

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Speaker 3: Someone's claiming him. In a second. He's on the White

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Speaker 3: Sox tomorrow. Yeah, he'll be their second best pitcher.

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Speaker 2: And the underlying stuff with Jose Buddo, he's eighty first

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Speaker 2: percent town with free He's getting a ton of ground balls.

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Speaker 3: They're still chasing a decent amount.

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Speaker 2: It's just the walks right now have been a bit

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Speaker 2: his k rate is down five percent from last year,

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Speaker 2: which is a big difference.

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Speaker 3: And just the way he's starting these at bats. In

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Speaker 3: this game he only faced five hitters, he only threw

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Speaker 3: strike one to one of them, Like you just can't

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Speaker 3: when you don't really have wipeout strikeout stuff like Bruto

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Speaker 3: it's like not if you don't get strike one, it's

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Speaker 3: especially when it's just it's not really good command either

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Speaker 3: without a wipeout breaking ball. It's just not it's a

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Speaker 3: recipe for disaster. That disaster played itself out on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: which sucked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean it kinda kind of is what

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Speaker 2: it is. We're gonna have a few more voicemails here.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Anthony. Anthony sent us one.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 6: What's up boys? Brutal loss in Game three?

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Speaker 3: Clear mic, I mean.

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Speaker 6: Alonzo Stanning struggling in this series. It's it's tough right now.

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Speaker 6: This bullpen then it's usage is getting to him. You

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Speaker 6: can see it. Brazo bonds struggled. He got out there luckily.

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Speaker 5: Bruto looks like shit, it's just tough minturns of the ail.

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Speaker 6: Like bullpen has been really taxed so far.

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Speaker 5: I mean Brudo was just awful Homer to Riley Adams

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Speaker 6: People, like, that's what sucks the most.

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Speaker 5: It's always these scrappy people like Connor Gillespie or freaking

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Speaker 5: South Freelik like go, It's it's really fucking annoying. It's

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Speaker 5: like every year, Uh, Neimos struggling a lot.

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Speaker 6: That sucks. Marte is struggling as usual.

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Speaker 5: Jesse Winkers struggling Sodo with the ground balls, but it's

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Speaker 5: like he's still hitting him hard. Uh it sucks, man,

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Speaker 5: it's just struggle. It's really bad because usage is gonna

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Speaker 5: get to this pen quick and I just don't want

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Speaker 5: this bullpen to suck because it seems the bullpen is

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Speaker 5: the problem for a lot of these losses, like every

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Speaker 6: It really sucks. But let's go, Meds and let's keep moving.

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Speaker 5: Like we gotta get we gotta get going again. We

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Speaker 5: can't be only good at home and ship on the road.

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Speaker 5: We have to fucking go.

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Speaker 6: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: I think he does make a good point that the

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Speaker 2: Mets really do kind of lose a little bit on

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Speaker 2: the road.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: They don't got the same vibe, the same energy, the

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Speaker 2: same juice. That's something that needs to I think be

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Speaker 2: the Nationals was terrible, but like if we're not gonna

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Speaker 2: pretend like the guy's falling by any means of course not,

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Speaker 2: I still have all the faith in this bullpen. I

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Speaker 2: think he doesn't bring up a good point too though,

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Speaker 2: that this bullpen is getting taxed like they're playing what

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Speaker 2: seventeen games in eighteen days. Basically AJ Minter hitting the

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Speaker 2: il no big booms for age and unfortunately he gets

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Speaker 2: a doom today for the injury doom. But I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Like the weird thing in this game was also where

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Speaker 2: used in back to back days?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Miek Phil friend of the program, had

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Speaker 3: a good tweet the other day with about the bullpen

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Speaker 3: being taxed, where it's like Minter comes in back to

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Speaker 3: going on there for some reason. Again prop Tops still

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Speaker 3: thinks of fake injury, but he threw twenty two pitches yesterday,

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Speaker 3: this week, they're like, a he's pitching two. If he's

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Speaker 3: you hope that Standing is a guy that can do it.

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Speaker 3: For some reason, this series, everything just fell apart for

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Speaker 3: Ryan's stance. I mean also like Alex call had the

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Speaker 3: cheap hit like that he didn't. Well, that's how things

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Speaker 3: like this happened. Like the game Friday night was similar,

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Speaker 3: like there were your team's always gonna have cheap pits.

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Speaker 3: They go both ways. But that's that's totally okay. But Standing,

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Speaker 3: for some reason, maybe it's just like a mental block

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Speaker 3: that was kind of let's voicemail right, No, that was

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Speaker 3: Anthony Anthony super grew with Anthony about the Stars not

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Speaker 3: going deep enough, the taxing the bullpen. Today. When McGill

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Speaker 3: it's like, these guys just have to be able to

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Speaker 3: then so to lose the ball in the sun. That's

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Speaker 3: kind of how all this stuff started to get out

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Speaker 3: of hand. And then that was also call was that No,

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Speaker 3: it was Louis Garcia. He went up on he went

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Speaker 3: up on second base. Then he allows us a smoke

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Speaker 3: single Josh Bell, who talked about owning the Mets, like

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Speaker 3: Josh Bell, him and Luis Garcia both if Josh Bell

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Speaker 3: played on better teams for the last ten years, like

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Speaker 3: he'd be in the pantheon of Mets killers. Teams just

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Speaker 3: sucks so bad it sometimes doesn't really cost the issue.

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Speaker 3: But that was kind of that's how everything snowballs. Just

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Speaker 3: such little things like that that set this team off.

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Speaker 3: That was the most annoying part because McGill was about

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Speaker 6: The bullpen was due for a blow up.

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Speaker 7: Let's go giffn Canning, Let's go Mets.

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Speaker 3: Abrams. Yes, and in any situation scoring from first on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta get those runs there. They left them

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Speaker 2: They really didn't do anything offensively after those first couple

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I got another one here from Nolan

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Speaker 6: Yo, what AUMRK and James.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: So me and my friends we drove five hours down

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Speaker 10: But I gotta say this game was like the game

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Speaker 6: But not a lot of Mets fans were happy.

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Speaker 10: It was like, really awkward. Everybody just kind of left

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Nolan, appreciate that. I respect the five hour

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Speaker 2: that's where you get into this trouble.

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Speaker 3: So and that's kind of that's just where that's at.

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Speaker 3: And I think it was a good note from Nolan

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Speaker 3: about how lively the crowd was there because we're like,

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Speaker 3: the team has to find a way. They went away

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Speaker 3: from City Field, But like the Flaws two of these games,

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Speaker 3: it is very pro Mets crowd always down there in DC,

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Speaker 3: which is kind of funny. But I also hate that stadium.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the worst of baseball, you like, even

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Speaker 2: on from our side, we've had chaos games positive and

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Speaker 2: chaos games negative. It's crazy what games the Mets and

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Speaker 2: Nationals have played in their small time there.

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Speaker 3: All Right, now, I got one coming in here from Joseph.

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Speaker 3: So here's Joseph's voicemail.

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Speaker 11: Hey guys, calling from San Antonio, Texas. I'll try to

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Speaker 11: keep it short, just wanting to say that I'm a

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Speaker 11: big fan of the positive. Learned so much about baseball

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Speaker 11: from you guys. I only started watching baseball last year.

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Speaker 11: Wo Mets mean a lot and my family, My grandpa,

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Speaker 11: who I never met, my mom's dad, died in eighty six,

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Speaker 11: ten minutes after Game six of the eighty.

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Speaker 6: Six World Series.

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Speaker 3: That's what we watched me.

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Speaker 11: So when they won that year, it was just a

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Speaker 11: really big deal and like really magical and special. So

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Speaker 11: I never watched a full game of baseball or cared

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Speaker 11: about it at all in my entire life until the

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Speaker 11: age of twenty five. Last year when I going to

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Speaker 11: catch the Mets on opening Dad wanted to get into baseball.

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Speaker 6: I knew that if I was if I was ever

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Speaker 6: going to that it would be the Mets.

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Speaker 11: And I didn't want to PLoP in mid season I

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Speaker 11: think two years ago, so I ended up bailing.

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Speaker 6: Didn't really care.

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Speaker 11: But I've been to watch Opening Day last year and

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Speaker 11: it was just one of the most magical seasons as

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Speaker 11: a fan that I've ever experienced in my life. And

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Speaker 11: and you guys were just a big part of that.

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Speaker 11: And I say that as somebody who's a Spurs fan.

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Speaker 11: I've seen several championships in my life, so high praise.

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Speaker 11: It was just a magical season. And I learned so

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Speaker 11: much from you guys and and just a couple of

477
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Speaker 11: other pods. But keep doing what you're doing, and like

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Speaker 11: I just you know, keep like spreading the love of

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Speaker 11: the game.

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Speaker 6: I think it's awesome.

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Speaker 11: So go Mets.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Joseph. I was a great voicemail after a

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Speaker 3: lot of them, like people just to kind of the

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Speaker 3: move that after that loss. But that's crazy. Could you

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Speaker 3: imagine dying before games, haven't, I mean dying ten minutes

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Speaker 3: after Game six, but shout out Chilot, Joseph's grandpa that

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Speaker 3: that's a wow, that's crazy and also its amazing voicemail.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Joseph too for sticking around after watching

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Speaker 2: that horrible, horrible opening day last year. And then the

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Speaker 2: highlight thing was Seymour Weiener. Otherwise it was like this

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Speaker 2: game sucks.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe wanting to watch more baseball after that game,

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Speaker 3: and also even just sticking with like Joseph sticking with

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Speaker 3: this team to the first six weeks of last year

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Speaker 3: and we were horrible. It was strange to see Jorge

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Speaker 3: Lopez pitching against us this weekend. It was fact on

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Speaker 3: Friday night when the SNY broadcast, but they zoomed in

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Speaker 3: on his glove when he was pitching. That was truth,

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Speaker 3: truthly hilarious. I loved every second of that.

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Speaker 2: Frankie Peppers sent you one, James, if you don't know,

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Speaker 2: had him play Frankie Peppers, give him give him a

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Speaker 2: little more airtime.

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Speaker 3: And also, guys, for the lore of Frankie Peppers that

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Speaker 3: came from a voicemail episode. That is how Frankie Peppers

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Speaker 3: left us a review, and we readout reviews all the time.

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Speaker 3: We have to get back to that next few episodes.

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Speaker 3: So if you guys leave his five star review and

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Speaker 3: app but we will read out He left the review

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Speaker 3: as Frankie Peppers, we kind of make create this mystique

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Speaker 3: and he dropped his voicemail. We were like, that was

511
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Speaker 3: the best thing we've ever heard. Now you're regularly Peppers.

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Speaker 3: Now you're the third co host. But here's a here's

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Speaker 3: the right Frankie.

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Speaker 1: Gentlemen, this is Frankie Peppers.

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Speaker 6: How you doing was not the result where you were

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Speaker 6: looking for? Boys, Nah, no good.

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Speaker 1: Always hurts to lose a game like that, especially when

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Speaker 1: you're up so big so early. We have to remember

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Speaker 1: that every team goes through this, Every single team goes

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Speaker 1: through this World Series. Winn Is go through this. So

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Speaker 1: it's one game. It's not one hundred and sixty two games.

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Speaker 1: It is one game out of one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: two and we have to wait to see if this

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Speaker 1: is emblematic of what's what's what's coming up, or if

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Speaker 1: that's just a one game thing.

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Speaker 6: So let's not overreact too hard.

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Speaker 1: Now. I'll talk to you boys soon. Have a good weekend.

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Speaker 3: No, I agree with Frankie though, No, no overreacting. I

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Speaker 3: mean we're not in another podcast.

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Speaker 2: Like even we we toyed with the idea of doing

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Speaker 2: like an instant reaction to this game. Me and James

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Speaker 2: were like, it's not really us, Like we know this

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Speaker 2: is game nine of the season, like.

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Speaker 3: And the Mets still have the best record in baseball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like things be like way worse. Again, we keep

536
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Speaker 2: saying this every episode. They're not hitting, They're really not

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Speaker 2: hitting at all as a team, and it's still going

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 3: So and that was supposed to be the backbone of

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Speaker 3: this team, was like a top like a bona fide

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Speaker 3: top five offense in the league. But it's not able

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Speaker 3: to get there right now because again, right now we

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Speaker 3: just have we just have like really good one so

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Speaker 3: tho instead of like one of the best players in

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Speaker 3: the league one so though, which is again it's still

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Speaker 3: pretty funny because after this game where he got on

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Speaker 3: base four times, had a double, Europe has still seven

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Speaker 3: to seventy. I think he's still about one thirty WRC plus,

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Speaker 3: Like he's still a tremendous baseball player, Like there's no

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Speaker 3: issue there, but just until we get meaningful production out

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Speaker 3: of some combination of Vientos, Marte Nimo, also McNeil, Alvarez

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Speaker 3: and and Winker. Like it's it's just not going to

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Speaker 3: be there. Like, we need to lengthen this lineup. It

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Speaker 3: needs to get deep where the top three guys can

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Speaker 3: only do so much and we need the strength. One

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Speaker 3: of the strengths' lineup was supposed to be apart from

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Speaker 3: the star power, is the depth. And until that depth comes,

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Speaker 3: like it's just got you gotta start hitting more. You

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Speaker 3: have to figure out way to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have a feeling a couple more of

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Speaker 2: these voicemails might address some of the hitting stuff, So

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Speaker 2: I'll save those questions for them before we start talking

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 3: But I think we have a few more. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: rip all of them. I'm assuming right, because I think

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Speaker 3: we have like three more after this. I'm counting five

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Speaker 3: more total. You're counting five more. Yeah, I got Steve,

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Speaker 3: Eric Gavino, Andrew, and then you're the in the primary.

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Speaker 2: Where do you see Okay, i'll let you. I don't

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Speaker 2: know where Andrew is, but you'll do that one. I'll

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Speaker 2: do Steven or Steve g right now, Steve, let's hear

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Speaker 2: what you got.

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Speaker 12: What's up boys? Okay, first time a long time. Actually

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Speaker 12: that's not true, and just started listening recently. But big

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Speaker 12: fan of the show. Let's talk to two things. Offense

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Speaker 12: and bullpen offense? Can we like step on their throats?

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Speaker 12: I mean, top of the ninth, my wife, who pretty

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Speaker 12: much watches every game with me, turns to me and goes.

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Speaker 6: Get a five ball in the air.

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Speaker 13: I mean, you got two guys on no oubt, get

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Speaker 13: a sack fly?

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Speaker 6: How hard could that be?

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Speaker 14: Like totally ridiculous that you can't execute on that second?

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Speaker 13: The bullpen, I'm kind of scared now Minter with the

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Speaker 13: elbow or the lat whatever it is.

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Speaker 8: Static.

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Speaker 6: I'm not too worried about him, but it's two blown

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Speaker 6: games in a row.

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Speaker 13: Brazi and Max have been a little bit overused.

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Speaker 6: Not a big fan of Danny.

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Speaker 12: Young, but whatever, I know, we have Nuniaz in the wings,

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Speaker 12: but apparently he's not lighting it up in triple A.

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Speaker 13: So this bullpen scared me a little bit. Diaz is

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Speaker 13: a roller coaster. I know we trust him, but we

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Speaker 13: don't trust them. So a little concerned here, A little concerned. Otherwise,

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Speaker 13: love the show, and uh looking forward to more episodes.

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Speaker 2: I will say I think the only thing that concerns

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Speaker 2: me is the mentor injury. Right now at the bullpen,

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Speaker 2: I still have all the faith in this bullpen to

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Speaker 2: be good and be productive like they have been. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be a little of regression. I don't think

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Speaker 2: they are the number one bullpen in baseball like their

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Speaker 2: bullpen ra would say. But I think that losing Mintor

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Speaker 2: is the scary part because he really has been so

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Speaker 2: great for this team. I know we kind of scuffed

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Speaker 2: a little but the other night, but overall, he's been

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Speaker 2: very consistent. He's done a good job. He's able to

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Speaker 2: get left, he's out, he's able to get right, he's out.

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Speaker 2: That's huge for a guy from the left side. I

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Speaker 2: know the Mets signed Brooks Raley. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: he caught that they signed Brooks Railey, so that maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe he's on his way back to this roster, especially

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Speaker 2: with Minter on the I l at some point, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure Brooks Raley hasn't been throwing many competitive pitches over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years with the injuries and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that as well. But I'm not worried about the bullpen,

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Speaker 2: but yes, they just need to get a sac fly

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Speaker 2: so badly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that again, he's coming back to that, which is

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Speaker 3: annoying because while this bullpen was terrible today by basically

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Speaker 3: every single metric, we're still a top five ballpen Baseball

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Speaker 3: truck on his walk grade, earned run average, like, this

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Speaker 3: is still a tremendous bullpen against not the Padres Bullpen's

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Speaker 3: is not the Dodgers bullpen, but this is still a

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Speaker 3: good bullpen. I'm confidence bullpen will continue to be a

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Speaker 3: good bullpen as long as they do not again run

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Speaker 3: these guys to the ground like Steven and like we

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Speaker 3: were concerned with it about Dad Nail struggling in triple A.

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Speaker 3: One Triple A is ridiculous. It's they use it. They

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Speaker 3: use the ABS system with the challenges they the Eastern

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Speaker 3: League just a very hither friendly league. It's hard to

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Speaker 3: adjust to that system. And also this isn't the thing

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Speaker 3: for Unias, but things for a lot of other guys

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Speaker 3: who go up triple A. There's a different baseball. Triple

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Speaker 3: A and double A or triple A is using the

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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball So it's a lot of weird factors

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Speaker 3: happening in Triple A. And if I'm looking at Unia's

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Speaker 3: right now, the strike out ray is high, but the

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Speaker 3: walk rays also very very high. So I think that's

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Speaker 3: probably a guy that's kind of one shaking rust off

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Speaker 3: and trying to figure that command back out if you're

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Speaker 3: not having much of spring training, But then two which

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Speaker 3: probably just about kind of working with a balls and

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Speaker 3: strike system that he had. I mean, he did work

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Speaker 3: with a little bit last year, but like when he

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Speaker 3: got to the major league that was not that's not

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Speaker 3: the case anymore. And weirdly, he's had some high walk

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Speaker 3: rates the last few years, specifically in the minor leagues

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Speaker 3: relative to the majors. Like last year was almost it

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Speaker 3: was like forty to fifty to forty percent higher in

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Speaker 3: the minor leagues two years ago is almost seven walks

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Speaker 3: per nine Triple A as well, So maybe it's just

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Speaker 3: something we're going down there, you kind of lose it

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Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I think also, like with the abs stuff, you kind

656
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Speaker 2: of get what's the word, it's better for you to

657
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Speaker 2: be very patient because chances are most pitches that umpires

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Speaker 2: are gonna give like on the edges, are going to

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Speaker 2: be endo ending up as balls, so there's kind of

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Speaker 2: more incentive to be more patient and really look for

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Speaker 2: your pitch in the zone, which has got to also

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Speaker 2: really help the hitters out a ton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big thing there. But next voicemail here

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Speaker 3: coming from Andrew. Here's Andrew.

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Speaker 15: There's two ways to look at this one. The Met's

666
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Speaker 15: still the best record in baseball. There as the time

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Speaker 15: at the time that I'm recording, this only team in

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Speaker 15: baseball that has not lost ten games yet this year.

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Speaker 15: So we only knew the bullpen wasn't gonna be that

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Speaker 15: good forever. I just wish forever lasted three more fucking

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Speaker 15: innings between two days ago and today.

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Speaker 6: So it does suck that this is how it all

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Speaker 6: went down, But I still think bets are in a

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Speaker 6: great spot.

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Speaker 15: I don't think the Nationals are as bad as people

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Speaker 15: really thought they were. Their bullpend does suck, and it

677
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Speaker 15: suck so we couldn't get to it, but I don't

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Speaker 15: think their lineup is as bad as people expected going

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Speaker 15: into the season. That and also, just like real quick, Cydebar,

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Speaker 15: I did not realize how privileged we are. And I'm

681
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Speaker 15: Gary keyth and Ron. I live about twenty minutes outside

682
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Speaker 15: of DC's ballpark, So I have to listen to Nats announcers.

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Speaker 15: They fucking suck sang, there's so much better than that shitter.

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Speaker 15: Michael k a fuck is in the Nationals fucking broadcast booth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah wait, we got we got that. More seconds in

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Speaker 3: the list two because.

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Speaker 15: I'm back for a second voice message. This won't be quick.

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Speaker 15: Frank the Tank is pissing me off. Never really bothered

689
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Speaker 15: me before, but he's he's getting me going right now.

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Speaker 6: I hate him. I don't hate him, that's strong word.

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Speaker 6: I don't hate anybody. Frank, Frank the Tank is pissing

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Speaker 6: me off.

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Speaker 3: And then he actually said he texted after actually I

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Speaker 3: do hate Chase something, so he does actually hate somebody.

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Speaker 3: That's good. That's a great voicemail from Andrew.

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Speaker 2: But we got Freak the Tank to reply to a

697
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Speaker 2: messed up tweet. He went ballistic on it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is crazy. I can't even believe that I

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Speaker 3: threw him the mean back of the person like talking

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Speaker 3: with their group and like giving his thumb up somebody

701
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Speaker 3: outside the group then coming back to the group. Also

702
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Speaker 3: want to shout out my cousin, Matt Uh's former part

703
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Speaker 3: time intern for the Mets to that podcast. He texted

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Speaker 3: in our family met group chat, I can't believe the

705
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Speaker 3: Mets of the first team the twenty wins in the

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Speaker 3: sixth inning. So he's he's he's a real asshole for

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Speaker 3: that one. Matt, Yeah, he knows better. He knows better.

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Speaker 3: It's terrible. He's spending he's spending too much time hating

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Speaker 3: the Knicks as a Nets fan, so he's using he's

710
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Speaker 3: a Nets fan too. It's terrible, discombobulated day. But how's

711
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Speaker 3: going on there? Horrible? It's just again like everything's with

712
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Speaker 3: a grain of salt. But the one thing is like

713
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Speaker 3: we're keeping closer eye on the ballpen. Now, all right,

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Speaker 3: this one's coming from Gavin. He prefaced it with, OMG,

715
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Speaker 3: I'm falling asleep. I don't know if it's good or not.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna call it a night. Hope to bump into

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Speaker 3: y'all at the ballpark.

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Speaker 2: So this might sound terrible, we'll find out, let's hear it.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for the opportunity to be on him.

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Speaker 16: You know him from Manhattan and just today, I guess

721
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Speaker 16: kind of the opinion of Teddy's game. I mean, Nimmo's

722
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Speaker 16: looking like he's in a slump, and throughout the week

723
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Speaker 16: I've seen you know, to return for uh McNeil and Olivarez,

724
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Speaker 16: and they're looking really good right now as well as

725
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Speaker 16: seems like the right move was to send Baty and

726
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Speaker 16: Singer back down. I'd love to see more Singer later

727
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Speaker 16: on the season hopefully, and I'm hoping to see a

728
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Speaker 16: rotation between Torrenz and Alvarez. I think that those guys

729
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Speaker 16: really do make a great catching combination, especially with Torrenz's

730
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Speaker 16: arms so far this year nothing short of spectacular. Brendan

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Speaker 16: Nemo again, still patting in a slump right now, kind

732
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Speaker 16: of he's been a slump for a while.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's getting on base, but the issue is,

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Speaker 6: I don't know, honestly.

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Speaker 16: But also Juan Soto, I feel like he's not producing

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Speaker 16: as many hits as we expected, or big hits. He's

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Speaker 16: getting on base, but I feel I'm starting to feel

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Speaker 16: like he is really extremely overpaid.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 16: I hope that you know, these guys continue to find

741
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Speaker 16: the groove throughout the season, and hopefully especially Soto are

742
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Speaker 16: seven and a half million, seven hundred and a half

743
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Speaker 16: million dollar man, you.

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Speaker 6: Can do some more. Yeah, I watched my grandpa all.

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Speaker 16: The time, and it's been conversations really similar about all

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Speaker 16: that this season, but overall optimistic to see how the

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Speaker 16: future works out. I see this team honestly being the

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Speaker 16: team that can beat La in the World's or to

749
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Speaker 16: get to the World Series this year.

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Speaker 3: The yawn is crazy.

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Speaker 2: They was crazy, Gavin in Manhattan.

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Speaker 3: That was a rollercoaster of a voicemail. One time a

753
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Speaker 3: few years ago for Christmas, I got my dad at

754
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Speaker 3: cameo from Keith Hernandez was a Christmas birthday, something like

755
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Speaker 3: that faestday, I don't remember what it was, And most

756
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Speaker 3: of those cameos always wanted up be exactly the same.

757
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Speaker 3: Keith sneezed in the middle of my dad's cameo and

758
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Speaker 3: left it in just kept going like a champion as words.

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Speaker 3: I love that live stuff. I mean, yeah, we can't.

760
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Speaker 3: We can't even get close to be worried about one

761
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Speaker 3: so of the yet and the guy's still playing totally

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Speaker 3: well when not playing well. And we were talking about

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Speaker 3: Nimo a lot off air before this happened. And the

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Speaker 3: crazy thing about Nimo right now is as much as

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Speaker 3: he's struggling, like as far like on the schnide, he

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Speaker 3: is he's running some of the best advanced stats for

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Speaker 3: his entire career, Like he has one of the highest

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Speaker 3: heart hit rates in baseball. He's not striking out like,

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Speaker 3: he's not swing and missing, he's not chasing like. It's

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Speaker 3: kind of it's kind of it's kind of incomprehensible to

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Speaker 3: look at his advanced stats but also watch him every

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Speaker 3: single day because I feel like the at bats are

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Speaker 3: bad and I feel like the contact is not good.

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Speaker 3: But then to look at this stuff and be like,

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Speaker 3: how is he actually hitting the ball that's hard? I'm

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Speaker 3: not even noticing it.

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Speaker 2: He So Baseball Savon has this great thing now where

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Speaker 2: you can look at where guys are set up in

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Speaker 2: the plate, so with their stances, how deep they are

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Speaker 2: in the box, how far away from the plate they are,

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Speaker 2: And the one that particularly caught my I say, like

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Speaker 2: point of interception.

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Speaker 3: So it's basically the nearest your back gets to a.

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Speaker 2: Ball on swings, whether you hit it or not, what's

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Speaker 2: the average distance in front of the plate in inches

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Speaker 2: that you are hitting the ball. And Brandon Nimo this year,

787
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Speaker 2: the ball is getting extremely deep, deeper.

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Speaker 3: Than it ever has.

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Speaker 2: That's probably part of the reason why he's hitting so

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Speaker 2: many ground balls while the balls are getting kind of

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Speaker 2: flared off to left field at oppos away stuff. Balls

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Speaker 2: on the ground is just the deeper you let the

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Speaker 2: ball get. For a swing like Brandon Nemo, your bat's

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Speaker 2: just not at that point yet through the zone where

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Speaker 2: you're able to get that lift because you're letting that

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Speaker 2: ball get deeper. And I know two three inches doesn't

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Speaker 2: sound like that much, but when the game's moving this fast,

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Speaker 2: I mean he teaches their own, I guess two three inches,

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Speaker 2: But it.

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Speaker 3: Can make a difference.

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Speaker 2: It can make a difference, especially in baseball, can make

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Speaker 2: a difference when the pitch is crossing the plate the

803
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Speaker 2: way your swing path. Like if we ever add swing

804
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Speaker 2: path stuff to baseball Savant, oh well, for sure, we

805
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: will literally be able to tell you exactly what's going

806
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Speaker 2: wrong with every single swing. And right now, for brand

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Speaker 2: Nemo and Juan Soto and Mark Viento's three guys who

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people were expecting to hit

809
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Speaker 2: a lot better than they currently are, they are letting

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Speaker 2: the ball get so much deeper than they have in

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Speaker 2: the past. Where a guy like Pete Alonzo, who's having

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Speaker 2: one of the best starts of his career is hitting

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Speaker 2: the ball out in front of the plate way more

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Speaker 2: often than he has, especially considering what he did last year.

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Speaker 3: And again, I think that's more of like a chicken

816
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: or the egg situation where if you're going well, you're

817
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Speaker 3: of course you're hitting the ball out in front of

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Speaker 3: the plate more you're gett out, you're getting under the ball,

819
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Speaker 3: you're pulling it like you're kind of finding that ideal

820
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Speaker 3: bathpath and getting that good timing. But when you're struggling and

821
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Speaker 3: you're making worse quality of contact, of course you have

822
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Speaker 3: a deeper a deeper intercept point a gal like.

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Speaker 2: The old school adage of like when you're struggling, guy,

824
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Speaker 2: let the guy let the ball travel. You got to

825
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Speaker 2: see the ball. You need to let it get deep.

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Speaker 2: Like you hear Keeps say that stuff all the time,

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Speaker 2: And in this actual scenario, it's like, no, we want

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Speaker 2: WANs to brand Nimo and Mark Viento's swinging out of

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Speaker 2: their shoes trying to hit the ball out with authority,

830
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Speaker 2: because when you let the ball get deeper, you just

831
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Speaker 2: don't have that power. You don't have the ability to

832
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Speaker 2: lift the ball when you hit it out in front

833
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Speaker 2: of the plate. That's where you get those fly balls,

834
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Speaker 2: that's where you get the lift.

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Speaker 3: And something interesting about Nimo as well that kind of

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Speaker 3: plays off this, even anecdotally, is that so far this

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Speaker 3: year he has a very bad run value against fastballs.

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Speaker 3: Run value is kind of just like the amalgamation of

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Speaker 3: how how productive you are against certain pitches. For Nimo's careers,

840
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Speaker 3: always been a guy crushed fastballs. Last year is a

841
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Speaker 3: plus eight run value against fastballs. I was one of

842
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Speaker 3: the highest that was by far. His highes against any

843
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: pitch this year is a negative three. It's it when

844
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Speaker 3: that pitch is the one that he's struggling with and

845
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Speaker 3: his whiff rate is increased on that pitch. To me,

846
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Speaker 3: it's indecisiveness. To me, it might be a timing thing.

847
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Speaker 3: It's that pitch is getting by him more often than

848
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Speaker 3: it has ever really for him in the past. He's

849
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Speaker 3: also still hitting it very hard and lifting it like

850
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Speaker 3: a decent amount, And like, I just I can't there's

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Speaker 3: so much still going for Nimo that I just it

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Speaker 3: has to click back at some point, Like I can't

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Speaker 3: believe that he's his production has been this bad, and

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Speaker 3: I don't think it will continue.

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Speaker 6: To be either.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so either.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's wrap up these last two here for

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Speaker 2: this episode, James, which one are you going with?

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Speaker 3: We got a few more I forgot. We also have

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Speaker 3: THEOS here. THEO is a very loyal fan, so I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna listener. So I'm gonna play THEOS real quick right now?

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Speaker 3: Sure hit THEO.

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Speaker 17: So, boys, you know, obviously tough toos that series. You

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Speaker 17: definitely want to take two out of three. You're definitely

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Speaker 17: looking you know, first week obviously was gonna happen. You know,

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Speaker 17: I can't win every single game that you play, so

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Speaker 17: I have a few questions. Pedals obviously blew the game

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Speaker 17: to day. What do you think a realistic contract is

869
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Speaker 17: going to look like for him? You know in terms

870
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Speaker 17: of years A V. Obviously it's gonna level out, but

871
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 17: you know it started really hot.

872
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Speaker 18: And then second like, what do you think a like

873
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Speaker 18: You're like, do you think a bullpen shakeup is imminent?

874
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 6: You know Budo hasn't been good.

875
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 18: We have Dediielle down in Syracuse. Do you think you

876
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 18: know David Stearn is just gonna keep toying around to

877
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 18: the bullpen?

878
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Speaker 6: I love you guys, keep doing the great work. You know.

879
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 6: I love your podcast. Yeah, and hap people lated Eastern.

880
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 3: Thank you love you too. Deal appreciate that. But again,

881
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be ay kind of shake up.

882
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: I think Budo just not having an option. I think

883
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: he's just too good to cut. I think that's too good.

884
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: He's just he's he simply too good to cut. Like

885
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 3: there's probably an expectation of him possibly being started against

886
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: the boy in his career, Like you don't you just

887
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 3: don't let the guy like this is very valuable.

888
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 2: He'll he'll hit the I l with arm fatigue before

889
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: they caught him way before.

890
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: Then. Two, the Alonzo question I think is interesting because well,

891
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 3: that was a terrible play at the end of the game,

892
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't go as far as say he blew

893
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: the game.

894
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: Nobody also means standing out over there late. That makes

895
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: that play a lot harder for Pete too.

896
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he also just skied the ball, and you would

897
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: you at that point you eat it and then we

898
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Speaker 3: have another out.

899
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: He tried to place it. He tried to place it

900
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: instead of just take the ball and throw it to

901
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: the spot.

902
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 3: Yes, but the other thing with Pete about a contract again,

903
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 3: he's had a really good month of this season, one

904
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: that he looks like one of the best hitlers in

905
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 3: baseball again like he did a few years ago. This

906
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: might be a hilariously hot take for me. I want

907
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: to know what you think about this, Okay, I don't

908
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: think his mark is going to be much different unless

909
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: he actually has like a fifty five home season for

910
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: the worst. I know, but it's terrible, but like, like truthfully,

911
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: like were the things that worked against pi Alonzo this

912
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: past season, Just the fact that he was a one

913
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: dimensional player in a first baseman who was over thirty

914
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: years old. You know, he's still going to be this

915
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: offseason on the one dimensional first baseman. It was a

916
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: year older, is a year past thirty now, So just

917
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: I don't see him getting more than like a four

918
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: for one hundred and ten.

919
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: Again, what was the contract the Mets originally offered? Remember, Like,

920
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: what was the rumor that one?

921
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 3: It's like, no, the one that they he apparently said

922
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 3: no to. Wasn't it a six for one seventy or something?

923
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: Six one seventy feels high? I don't know, six for

924
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: one forty, six for one fifty six something like that.

925
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Speaker 2: I think that that's about there take a year off

926
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Speaker 2: of what that offer was, just make it one less

927
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: year in the same aav Like, I don't this is

928
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: gonna sound crazy, but I just don't think that this

929
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 2: does anything to really boost his market by.

930
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: It just creates enough value.

931
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Speaker 2: The only thing this might have is maybe And I

932
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: say this like, I love Pete's playing so well, and

933
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: it's not these teams aren't stupid for being interested in them.

934
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: But maybe this convinces a couple of the stupid teams

935
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: to build around the first basement as their big money guy.

936
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, maybe.

937
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: And again, like the couple of market changes that Pete

938
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: has made that I've stuck in the last couple of years,

939
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: He's really increased, like he's really improved his chase race

940
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 3: swing a fewer pitches outside the strike zone. He started

941
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: doing that really meaningfully in twenty twenty three, and then

942
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: he carried that twenty twenty four. When he was doing that,

943
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: he was just making more contact on pitches outside his

944
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 3: own and then also kind of swing at more pitches

945
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 3: like we talk about a lot in the shadow of

946
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: the plate, Like that was something that Pete struggling with,

947
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: picking the wrong pitches in the zone sometimes swing at

948
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: and then making more contact, but generally weaker contact. This

949
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: year he has fixed that where now he's he's pitting

950
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: the shit at every single thing and picking all the

951
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 3: right pitches swing at again. So he's kind of brought

952
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: the much improved Chase Ray from the early part of

953
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: his career and married it with a really good, like

954
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: consistent hard contact he had too in the early part

955
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 3: of his career. And like the bat speed has gone

956
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 3: up a little bit, which is kind of amazing to

957
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: think about that Pilons with thirty has a faster bat

958
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: than he had each of the last two years. Also, yeah,

959
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: that's a big part of it. But his bat he

960
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 3: never had bad bat speed. Like last year he's swinging

961
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: seventy five miles now this year's singing seventy six miles

962
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: an hour. That's difference between ninetieth and ninety fifth percentile,

963
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: which is definitely a big difference because you're going from

964
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: elite to super elite. But I just again, I don't

965
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 3: think that his market's actually that changed at all, which

966
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 3: is again music to David Certain's ears. Yeah, no, I

967
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: think it's the exact same thing. And going back to

968
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: the bullpen.

969
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: David sers will always tinker with the bullpen, but right

970
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: now there's really no reason to Jose Buddho is struggling,

971
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: but he's not going anywhere.

972
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: Boutte boute bout Yeah. We got the accent in the end.

973
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 3: Now and now though, so drop drop the next voicemail.

974
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 3: I lost track of where we're at. Where are I got?

975
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: I got a few left here, they're all they're all

976
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: red now, so I don't know where to go. Oh yeah,

977
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: my bad. So we have to left from Eric and

978
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 3: then from your the and I think they're both quite long.

979
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 3: So yeah, this one's two thirty eight. I'm gonna play

980
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: on two X speeds. So Eric two thirty eight and

981
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Speaker 3: two X sped James to.

982
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Speaker 14: Call in from the time, huge fan of the podcast.

983
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 14: I'm just gonna name a couple of guys I've been

984
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 14: disappointed in this season. I think we're deepen Off's where

985
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 14: we start hitting the panic button on a couple of guys. Hey, fast,

986
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 14: want to see what you guys thought. So so the

987
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 14: earlier most the point playing the team has been Brandon Demo.

988
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 14: He it's just not been hitting the ball at all

989
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 14: the season. Uh, I mean it feels like none of

990
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 14: is a battery of competitive and that's something that I

991
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 14: feel like even when Brandon was struggling, he be able

992
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 14: to worked to count against these starters. I feel like

993
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 14: now it's just, you know, he immediately goes down one,

994
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 14: two or two and it's a ground ball or a strikeout.

995
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 14: It's just not good at all. And we still have

996
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 14: to have him for a couple more seasons. We're still

997
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 14: paying him a good amount, and it sucks to see

998
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 14: m Ariao addressing because he's one of my favorite Mets.

999
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 14: And another guy offensively who's just been really bad this

1000
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 14: year is Starla Marte. I know he had that walk

1001
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 14: off a couple of days ago, but again, he's just

1002
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 14: on competitive at the polete. I could see why Dame

1003
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 14: starts trying to move him. Honestly, ever since he got here.

1004
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 14: I know, I don't think he's met after the season,

1005
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 14: so you know, I think the Mets to trade him

1006
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 14: honestly or honestly TFA him because he's just kind of

1007
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 14: been useless and he's not even.

1008
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 6: Ceiling the basis anymore.

1009
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 14: So I don't really know his role of the team

1010
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 14: now going into the pitching, I think all our starters

1011
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 14: have been fabulous, but from the reliever standpoint, Jose Bhutto,

1012
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 14: we need to have a conversation about him because last

1013
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 14: year he was elite, as we all know, but it

1014
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 14: feels like ever since that Berverer series where he up

1015
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 14: was back to back Homer's, he just hasn't been the same.

1016
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 14: His fastball's flat. I mean today what he did was

1017
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 14: just embarrassing. He ruined a gym by Tyler McGill, and

1018
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 14: it's just frustrating how many more chances he is gonna

1019
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 14: get because last year he was able to eat up innings,

1020
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 14: he came up Bay for us and it's just been

1021
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 14: in a struggle this season that's been frustrated to watch.

1022
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 14: And then you know, lastly, Danny Jung, I honestly don't

1023
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 14: why he has a roster spot at this point.

1024
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 6: I mean, the only reason I could see it because

1025
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 6: he's left e and the metster short.

1026
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 14: I'm left him pitching, but he has been not good

1027
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 14: at all, and honestly, I think the Met's need to

1028
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 14: start looking for or better options because there's definitely better

1029
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 14: options available, and every time he's out there, I his cringe.

1030
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 14: So those are my four guys who I've just been

1031
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 14: really disappointed with and I'm definitely concerned to hitt the

1032
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 14: panty button. And I don want to know what you guys

1033
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 14: thought that you guys had any other players in mind.

1034
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 3: Thanks all right, thank you, thank you for that.

1035
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 10: Eric.

1036
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: Luckily, I think we did get to mostly so far

1037
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 3: as episode. I think the one we have is Danny Young,

1038
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: which I think is funny because I think that Mets

1039
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: fans we always need like that guy in the Bullpen's

1040
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: escape goes. He's again, he's not. I'm not Danny Young's

1041
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 3: now the world either. No, I don't, I don't want,

1042
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: I don't want. I'm not like grinning when I see

1043
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 3: Danny Young triving from the bullpen. But it's like, I

1044
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: think he's just as far as like a lefty in

1045
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: the back of the peng Goes. Think he's totally okay.

1046
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: And one more point about Nimo they didn't make last

1047
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: time that I want to talk about is the fact

1048
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: that Eric brought up a good point that like one

1049
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: of the trademarks of Nimo's skill always used to be

1050
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: the fact that he was really good at working to count,

1051
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: like he would fall behind and find a way to

1052
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: get back in something amazing that's happening with Nimo this

1053
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: year is that he's seeing one of the highest rates

1054
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 3: of pitches in the strike zone for any pitcher in baseball,

1055
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 3: and that's at fifty seven percent. The major league average

1056
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 3: is forty eight and a half percent. So I think

1057
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: that knowing this, pitchers are like, you're not doing that

1058
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: shit anymore, Like there's just no way, like we are

1059
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: no longer giving you that the opportunity to get back,

1060
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: and he's at bats like you will be getting strikes,

1061
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: which I guess that is a bit of a bad

1062
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: sign because that means that it's interesting, it's just not

1063
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: afraid of him anymore. But it's also like.

1064
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: His first strike rab is still really hot, like as

1065
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: high as it's been though, like he twenty twenty three

1066
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: six percent first pitch strike, Like he's.

1067
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: Being more aggressive, he's responding to more pitches than strikes

1068
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: and being more aggresive. He still has a good quality

1069
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: of contact.

1070
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: I think it's just it's the swinging strikes are so

1071
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: much higher this year than it's ever been as well,

1072
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: like you mentioned, like he is getting more strikes in

1073
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 2: the zone. There's no doubt about that. That's the highest

1074
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: it's been, but his first pitch strike percentage is not

1075
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: very different than where it's been in previous year. So

1076
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: it's just that the quality of swings have not been

1077
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: as good. Really, at the end of the day, the

1078
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: cold strikes are lower. That's a big part well.

1079
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 3: Because he's swinging more at that. Yeah, that's the whole thing.

1080
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Speaker 3: Like Nimo is someone that we used to give him

1081
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: so much credit for his swing decisions, but that's something

1082
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: that's gone way downhill this year. Like this is the

1083
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 3: first time where we're like, oh, man, like he's not

1084
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 3: he's no longer making all of the right decisions when

1085
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: he's swinging the bat, which is the thing that we

1086
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: were the most excited about with Nemo even when he

1087
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: signed the big contracts. We were like, as long as

1088
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: you always have this in the bag, as long as

1089
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: you're always going to be like a plus plus wing

1090
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: decision guy. But I don't really have any concerns with

1091
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: how you're going to age this is as are looking

1092
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: at the numbers. Yeah, it's it's crazy like looking back

1093
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: for the years and seeing like how different this is.

1094
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: But I think a lot of that is an extreme

1095
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 3: game planning change by pitchers against Nemo. Where he's getting

1096
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: he for this is it. He's like he's become significantly

1097
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: less selective, which is kind of amazing because that was

1098
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: his thing, Like he was the selective guy. The fact

1099
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: that he's now not being selective anymore like that, to me,

1100
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: is definitely caused for some concern. I'm not concerned about

1101
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: brand Nemo Again. The quality of contact is still really good.

1102
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: I still think he's going to very much pull himself

1103
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: out of this. But swinging a lot more and making

1104
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 3: significantly less contact in the strike zone that's not a

1105
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 3: good combination. Has not worked out at all, and let

1106
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: the ball get deeper not working. Yeah, but yeah, I

1107
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: think I think he gets right. He's gonna getting that

1108
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 3: ball out fromt more. I think that's the problem, is

1109
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: not right, Well, I mean yeah, but that's that's part

1110
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: of it. Like he can get right.

1111
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: He can, he can swing the bat earlier, he can

1112
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: he can make this change. It's not like getting good

1113
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's just gonna happen. He's like,

1114
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: oh yeah, now I hit the ball out in front.

1115
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 2: He can make that change right now. It can happen today.

1116
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think again, I think it's just as happening

1117
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: more when you're wrong, when you're bad. Also, Marte, we

1118
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: made our stands clear on Marte. He's got to be team.

1119
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: He's his roster spot is He almost like waste of

1120
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: space right now, Like the fact that we have a couple.

1121
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: We have two guys and starling Marte and Mark Viantis,

1122
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: who are right handed batters that have no defensive value whatsoever.

1123
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: I Vento's at least can't play third base enough where

1124
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: Marte can, and he could play first pace too if

1125
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 3: we need him. He could play. Yeah, well, like Marte

1126
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 3: can't step foot in the field. He's like like he's like,

1127
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: was that Steven?

1128
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 11: Eric?

1129
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 19: Eric?

1130
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 17: Steve?

1131
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: Who's that?

1132
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 10: I remember?

1133
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 3: Which? I think that might have been Eric. I think

1134
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: that might have been Eric too. It's just he's been

1135
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 3: slow as ship to this year, and we're always like,

1136
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 3: all right, the sprints be slow because you know, he's

1137
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 3: not hustling the first base. Today when he had to

1138
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: score in that double, he couldn't even move. He was

1139
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 3: in pain. It looked like he was moving in slow motion.

1140
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe how close that play was, like limping

1141
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 3: around third where it's like I don't I just don't

1142
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 3: know what this guy's what he can do on this

1143
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: team anymore to help them win a regular basis, because

1144
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: he can't hit. He's not hitting homers, he can't lift

1145
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: the ball like he He's basically a zero tool player

1146
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: right now, and he's making twenty million dollars and it's

1147
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: taking up a very valuable roster spot.

1148
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think when push comes to shove, I

1149
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 2: think he will end up being cut from this team

1150
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: at some point if he doesn't step it up. I

1151
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: think they'll probably give him to the end of May,

1152
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: and then I think there's a chance starring Marte is

1153
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: on this team. If you want to be a serious

1154
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: baseball team, this version of Starring Marte can't be on

1155
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: the roster.

1156
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: I still think they love him. I still think they

1157
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: respect him. I still think that, well, he's got good vibes,

1158
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: but he thinks like, yeah, does he want to be

1159
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: a coach? Last one here coming from a YORTHI this

1160
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: is also an over two minute one, so it's gonna

1161
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: be at two x speed one point five.

1162
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 19: It's gonna do something about this offense. I don't know

1163
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 19: who it is. I don't know if it's Eric Chavez,

1164
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 19: that has to go. And I never like to advocate

1165
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 19: for people losing their jobs. I'm just not that type

1166
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 19: of person. Ever since, I feel like ever since Eric

1167
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 19: Chavis took over as the hitting coach, the Mets have

1168
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 19: struggle with runners in his scoring position, Like, even if

1169
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 19: it's not for the entire year, but.

1170
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 6: On stretches, they just struggle.

1171
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 19: And can we please someone grab Brandon Nemo to the

1172
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 19: side and tell them, hey, remember when you used to walk?

1173
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 19: Remember when the three and two call used to be

1174
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 19: called the nemo?

1175
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 6: Can we get back to that?

1176
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 19: Can we stop swinging early in the count and trying to.

1177
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 6: Hit the ball all undred feet?

1178
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: Like that's not your game, bro?

1179
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 19: Can we get back to getting on base at least

1180
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 19: because you're not doing anything else right now?

1181
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 6: What else?

1182
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 19: It feels kind of silly to complain about the offense

1183
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 19: when when the core seven runs today. But this lineup

1184
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 19: was supposed to be the strength of this ball team

1185
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 19: and it seems like it's the weakness right now. Even

1186
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 19: though the bullpen exploded. I still trust them to bounce back.

1187
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 19: I trust the rotation, the rotation part of my accent.

1188
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 19: But yeah, this offense gotta wake up. There's treaky. They're

1189
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 19: just going four or five runs in an inning and

1190
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 19: then they forget about the rest of the game.

1191
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 6: It's like, come on that we need some consistency.

1192
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 19: And I'm not even gonna talk about one, so I

1193
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 19: know he's he's gonna pick it up. But man, start

1194
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 19: hitting the bond the air a little more like hitting

1195
00:46:58,920 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 19: the ball hard.

1196
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 6: But into the ground. Sucks. Anyways, thank you guys.

1197
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 19: For having me.

1198
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 6: If you even listened to.

1199
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 19: This lone ass podcast, I wish the best guy is

1200
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 19: keep up a little work.

1201
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 6: Let's go Mets.

1202
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: That was awesome. I'm happy, But that's what we're gonna

1203
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: end on.

1204
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: That was a great voicemail for I've got to talk

1205
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: about the Eric Shavas stuff because d should put out

1206
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: a great article talking about Francisco Indoor and Eric Chavez.

1207
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people spend this as

1208
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: a positive that Francisco Indoor and Chavez were able to

1209
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: call each other out. Did she not think it was

1210
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: weird that Francisco Lindor called out Eric Chavez for not

1211
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: doing his job and Eric Chavez is like, yeah, I'm

1212
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: not doing it.

1213
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 3: Does that not feel weird to anybody? Also, for more

1214
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: context than The article is basically the fact that this

1215
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: was last year during the whole Hory Lopez debacle that

1216
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: everyone it was like the meeting, the accountability meeting was

1217
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: kind of what the players called it, like Lindor stepping

1218
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 3: up being like, I'm not playing well right now, and

1219
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: apparently he pulled Eric Shavis. I'd be like, hey, we

1220
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 3: need more, like we need more help, we need more preparation,

1221
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 3: like we need to know more about what's going on stuff.

1222
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: Shava was like, yeah, you're right, Like that's definitely kind

1223
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: of a red flag. I think Shava is another guy

1224
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: who has to come to the scapegoat. It might be rightful.

1225
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people who even like smart

1226
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: pit baseball development people on Twitter who don't really like

1227
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: the what Shavis does with the hitting development here or

1228
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: they just being hitting coach here, and the Jeremy Barns

1229
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: think development as well. It's it's weird and you talk

1230
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: about all the backtracking stuff and like if if they

1231
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: actually are telling some of these guys let the ball

1232
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 3: travel this much, like that could be a pretty bad

1233
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: cue and something that could be affecting his team negatively. Yeah,

1234
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1235
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 2: Uh, Chavez has his moments where he looks great and

1236
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: Chavs has moments where he looks terrible.

1237
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 3: As the hitting coach, well that's how that's how hitting

1238
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 3: coaches are say, that's it's a it's very uh cyclical.

1239
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: Is that the right way that it's like, sometimes you're good,

1240
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: sometimes you're not, depends how the team's doing. When the

1241
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: team's not doing bad, you blame the hitting coach because

1242
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 2: you're not going to blame the players for every single

1243
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: thing going wrong at the end of the day. But

1244
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: I felt like this article was like a great article

1245
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: by Dsha, great article. She's the best friend of the podcast,

1246
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: But I felt like it wasn't being talked enough about

1247
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: how weird it was that Francisco Indoor had to call

1248
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: out the hitting coach of the team.

1249
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 3: That's so weird. It is a weird thing too where

1250
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 3: Lindor it's like, so a leader on this team, like

1251
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: probably even more so than like captains and leaders are

1252
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: on other teams, where he has the actual I don't

1253
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: even know to say, like the organizational support, like the

1254
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 3: clout to call out a coach. Yeah, Like I feel

1255
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: like if if the best player and some other teams

1256
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 3: called out a hitting coach to get coach, what the

1257
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: fuck do you say to me? But like Lindor like

1258
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: has enough cloud, like he is the man with his

1259
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: team where you can do things like that. But I did.

1260
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: I'm happy you brought that up because you remember reading

1261
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 3: that the other day and being like this is strange.

1262
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone took it as like lind what a positive

1263
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: from Lindor, Like he stepped up, and that's right.

1264
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 3: But also one of our coaches wants to do his

1265
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: job for me.

1266
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah what about I don't know, It's it's whatever.

1267
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: This team's fine, We're gonna be okay.

1268
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: We're gonna win today against the Nationals anyway, calling it

1269
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: right now, and we'll be twenty wins for the season.

1270
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: That'll be great.

1271
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: But that's it for this episode. A little bit longer

1272
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: voicemail one, but we want to get everybody's in there.

1273
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: Appreciate everybody reaching out to us.

1274
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,560
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1275
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,000
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1276
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,360
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1277
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,240
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1278
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1279
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,960
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1280
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 3: Also, if you guys, if you are members on the

1281
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 3: YouTube channel, we're gonna do our members only Q and

1282
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 3: A pregame Monday. Think that's what we decided on, we guys,

1283
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: some people told us that they'd be around for that.

1284
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: This is about twenty five you guys now are really

1285
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: happy you're all here with us. But so, if you

1286
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 3: guys are a member, check on YouTube Monday, round three

1287
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,400
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1288
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: a members only Q.

1289
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: And A and you can follow me on social media

1290
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: at Raphneckmark. Thank you guys for listening and watching. We

1291
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: will catch you all on the next episode. Peace Out,

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Speaker 2: peace Out guys, Go Mets. Tide of the series

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Speaker 4: Up another s