WEBVTT - My Favorite Athlete With No Legs - Blake Leeper

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<v Speaker 1>What's more frustrating being born without legs or being a

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<v Speaker 1>black man in America.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, that's a good win because they actually are close

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<v Speaker 2>to being equal.

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<v Speaker 1>Cash Show, Cash Show, to Show. Welcome to Toss Show

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<v Speaker 1>another episode. How you doing, Eddie?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm well? Thank you? You got any cool new VIDs

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<v Speaker 1>I need to check out?

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<v Speaker 2>No no videos this week? Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>Your only job is to give me one interesting video

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<v Speaker 1>that I may have missed. It has slipped through the

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<v Speaker 1>cracks that I didn't see in you and there's none

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<v Speaker 1>this week. What that's the beauty of Toss Show. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>some weeks no videos. So anything going on in the

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<v Speaker 1>world that I need to know about? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well I'm caught up. Let's talk sports. Got my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>pair of Olympian on today, and I'm excited about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something about US athletes that compete

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<v Speaker 1>under a different countries flag. This happens all the time

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<v Speaker 1>because they're not good enough to compete under the American flag.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't make the team, so they go to another country.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to know that you're a trader, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I pray that you get injured, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you find out how great the US healthcare system really is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm only half joking. I understand why US athletes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go to other countries. It's a great opportunity. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's I don't know, it's not. I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>like these they're Americans. Here's what. Here's my stance like

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<v Speaker 1>on California. You know how long you have to live

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<v Speaker 1>in California before you're supposed to get a California driver's license?

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<v Speaker 1>Ten days. Don't look it up, Eddie, I've already done it.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me tell you something. These people that come

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<v Speaker 1>here live here ten years and refuse to get a

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<v Speaker 1>licencause they don't want to pay the high insurance, car insurance,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that nonsense, registration. It's a mess. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really believe the number of the people that the

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<v Speaker 1>people that actually live here is way higher. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>even get me started on the illegals. For the record,

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<v Speaker 1>I love illegals. Oh that's how I feel about tennis players.

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<v Speaker 1>All these Russians, they all grew up in South Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>They all trained in South Florida at tennis academies in Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you play tennis in Florida for ten days,

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<v Speaker 1>you're now a US citizen. This is where I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>tired of all these other countries getting credit for these

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<v Speaker 1>great athletes that only became great athletes because they trained

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<v Speaker 1>in America. I think it's a decent I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a decent point. I think I can actually get some

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<v Speaker 1>of my Red State Republican fans to get behind me

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<v Speaker 1>on this. In twenty twenty eight, the Olympics are here

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<v Speaker 1>in la I kind of excited to see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Our freeway burnt down last week, so I can only

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<v Speaker 1>imagine how flawless building these Olympic villages is going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to compete in twenty twenty eight, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fifty three. I want to compete in surfing. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm certainly not a professional surfer, but there's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be some you know, Jamaican Bob Sled type scenario where

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<v Speaker 1>there's a country that would let me compete. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the qualifying is to get into surfing

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<v Speaker 1>in the Olympics, but this is what I need to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I was born in Germany. McIntosh shortened

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<v Speaker 1>to Toash. I was originally. I think my family was

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<v Speaker 1>in Ireland. At some point, I think they changed the

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<v Speaker 1>name and fled the country. I don't know what they did,

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<v Speaker 1>probably something awful. Doesn't matter. Find a country some landlock

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<v Speaker 1>hell hole, and then I'll be your flag bearer. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly want to do the opening ceremony. That's my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite part of the opening ceremony is the small countries

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<v Speaker 1>that have like two people or one person competing. Great.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always in some event that nobody gives a shit about.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the Olympics, the Summer Games should have

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<v Speaker 1>two events. It should just have running and jumping the end.

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<v Speaker 1>That should be the Olympics. We don't need all the

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<v Speaker 1>every year. Oh did you hear that they're adding touch

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<v Speaker 1>whiffle ball? No? I didn't hear about touch whiffle ball.

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<v Speaker 1>But by the way, and running running fine, I'm running

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<v Speaker 1>should be in the Olympics because it makes sense. But

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<v Speaker 1>running in general is the dumbest thing on the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly can't think of anything worse. I've never You're

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<v Speaker 1>a runner, ready?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I used your another knees are killing me.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever had you ever got had runners?

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<v Speaker 2>High? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I've never run that far. You can talk about runners

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<v Speaker 1>high like it's a good thing. You know what else

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<v Speaker 1>gets you high and all? I don't do that either.

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<v Speaker 1>Ventanill get you high?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, running has never been my thing. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm so inspired by today's guest. A world class

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<v Speaker 1>sprinter would never be something that interests me. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>overcome so many obstacles. I mean, I'm a tall, handsome, successful,

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<v Speaker 1>straight white male. The only obstacles I've ever had to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with our my in laws. Blake was born without legs.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a built in excuse to never run. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>against God's will. God's plan for Blake was to be

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<v Speaker 1>a couch potato or a fancy throw pillow. Enjoy, Pasha,

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today is an eight time track and field medalist,

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<v Speaker 1>world record holder and my favorite sprinter with no legs.

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<v Speaker 1>Please welcome Blake Leaper.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. Your favorite spitting without legs. I

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<v Speaker 2>love that titles.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to know that I have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of black friends without legs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I'm sure it's like an ample amount. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your your favorite one out of all level Well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of them don't run. I mean, what are the

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<v Speaker 1>odds that your name is Leaper?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, right, born without legs, last name Leaper.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just weird. That's always how it is, cisy humor.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is John White. By the way, I should,

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<v Speaker 1>I should definitely start by thanking you for your service.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, our country. No, I'm not military, No stolen down.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not military. You didn't serve in Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not m You'd be surprised how many how

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<v Speaker 2>many people think that I was?

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<v Speaker 1>You were in Vietnam? Well, because I mean, black people

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<v Speaker 1>don't age. I don't know. I don't want to guess

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<v Speaker 1>how old you were. That's okay, so you were. Our

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<v Speaker 1>research is horrible. Blake is my first question. I asked

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<v Speaker 1>all my guests. Do you believe in ghosts?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would say I do believe in ghosts.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, gun to your head. You believe in ghosts?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do believe in ghosts. Really, yes I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt them tickle my feet at night. But I'm joking.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't believe in ghosts?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes I do. No, I do. You really don't know spirits.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it goes through the spirits. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's nothing. It's something that's like floating around.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing that we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>See, but we feel we don't feel anything, right, don't

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<v Speaker 2>you feel something? No? Never, all the stories and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Could care less about the stories, couldn't care less orry born.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was born in Kingsport, Tennessee, like sixty miles

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<v Speaker 2>east of Knoxville, Tennessee. For people who don't know, born

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<v Speaker 2>with the congeneral bird defect fibbler him a milia. So

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<v Speaker 2>the day that I was born, the doctors basically told

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<v Speaker 2>my parents, my mother and father, that I was never

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<v Speaker 2>gonna walk or run a day in my life. My

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<v Speaker 2>legs didn't develop. I didn't grow anything basically below my knees.

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<v Speaker 2>I have my knee joints, but I'm missing my calf

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<v Speaker 2>muscles and my and my ankles and my feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, that's that's that's a blow because this is

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<v Speaker 1>how old are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I'm thirty three now.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I mean they didn't know this until you delivered.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, So I was delivered, took me into the ICU,

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<v Speaker 2>came back and had the conversation with my mother and father,

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<v Speaker 2>mister and missus Leaper I'm sorry, but your baby boy,

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<v Speaker 2>Blake is born missing both of his legs. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's never gonna walk, he's never gonna jump, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be bound in a wheelchair his his whole life. And

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<v Speaker 2>so like it was, I would say, initially a blow

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<v Speaker 2>to my family to be of course. Yeah, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>definitely was a blow to my family.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a father, yes, I am, I am? And how

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<v Speaker 1>old you just three? Three?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? God, it's such a crazy ag.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you did a pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had a pandemic baby, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>You were just born?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I had nothing else to do. I

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<v Speaker 2>was at home making babies. It was ridiculous or.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations, but like you, obviously I assume went to all

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<v Speaker 1>these check ups.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you would have, like in this day and age,

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<v Speaker 1>if you would have found out like oh, at nine

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<v Speaker 1>weeks or ten weeks or hey, there's no legs in

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<v Speaker 1>your baby, yeah, some people might be like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to have this child.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, And it's a common situation, you know, having

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<v Speaker 2>a child with a disability. You know, we don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with this. The divorce rate goes up with

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<v Speaker 2>the parents like all these things that come with the

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<v Speaker 2>stigmatism of having a child missing not only one leg,

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<v Speaker 2>but missing both his legs, and so for my parents

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of stick into it, right, I asked them

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<v Speaker 2>the day that I was born, like, well, what'd you say? Like, mom, like,

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<v Speaker 2>who'd you You know? My mom's as a Christian woman, but

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<v Speaker 2>she cussed out the you know, who'd you cuss out

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<v Speaker 2>with the doctors. But they tell me they did two

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<v Speaker 2>things in the moment when they found out that I

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<v Speaker 2>was born missing both of my legs. The first thing,

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<v Speaker 2>they decided to stick together as a family as a unit,

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<v Speaker 2>and the second thing was to keep a positive attitude

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<v Speaker 2>towards my situation, specifically being born without legs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty great. Are they still together? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they fight every day, but they're still together.

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<v Speaker 1>Where'd you go to college?

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the University of Tennessee, Go balls, go balls. Baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something. I truly love Knoxville.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, is it a great knock? Do we call

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<v Speaker 2>it knox Vegas?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you an athlete at the University of Knoxville or

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<v Speaker 1>University Tesnsee?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I wasn't. So I did play basketball in baseball

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<v Speaker 2>growing up as a kid. But once I went to

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<v Speaker 2>University of Tennessee, I was just kind of focusing on

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<v Speaker 2>my studies. I was pre med when applied physics, so

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be an orthopedic surgeon. That was altered

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<v Speaker 2>obviously once I got the running blades. So I got

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<v Speaker 2>the running prosthetic blades in college, started competing competitively and

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<v Speaker 2>became one of the fastest Paralympic runners in the world

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<v Speaker 2>within a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what am I supposed to say? Abled? Yeah? So

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting because I am technically a disabled man. So

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<v Speaker 2>I am a man with a disability, and to compare

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<v Speaker 2>against people that have their legs, I say, able bodied

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<v Speaker 2>runners or you know somebody that is able body. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's kind of interesting that I am labeled disabled.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm faster than you.

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<v Speaker 1>So you think you're faster, you don't know. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>actually exerted like my full course, so I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea how fast I could go.

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<v Speaker 2>I means, as a white man with those type of

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<v Speaker 2>glasses in that outfit, I guarantee you that I that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't. You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not bound by a sweater and glasses. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pick the sweater out the glasses help me read because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm old, I'm pretty quick. Yeah, I mean I get

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<v Speaker 1>your Your four hundred meters is your special right right? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>still farther than I want to go. I just hate running.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that bother you that people with legs hate running?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it doesn't. I mean to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>I hated running growing up as a kid too. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I was missing both of my legs, so I

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<v Speaker 2>always came last in all the running events. So as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid growing up, I hated running like I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>How bad were you at at the beginning of your

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<v Speaker 1>life where you're like it?

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<v Speaker 2>It was pretty I mean it was the technology. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like sticks. Basically imagine me as a pirate, just

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<v Speaker 2>like two sticks, just like walking around.

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<v Speaker 1>Just did your family have money?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean so they did. They had good jobs and

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<v Speaker 2>they had My mom was a nurse, So we did

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<v Speaker 2>have the whole fight in the battle with the entrance companies.

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<v Speaker 2>Because people, for those who don't realize, especially in the

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<v Speaker 2>disabled community, certain prosthetic legs like the ones you see

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<v Speaker 2>me walk in today, are consider a luxury, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>and not a necessity. So you can say, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to run, I want to walk. You send your

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<v Speaker 2>letter into the insurance you know a company and say

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<v Speaker 2>we don't care. Right, figured it.

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<v Speaker 1>Would rame, yes, play video.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly. So my mom was a big advocate for

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<v Speaker 2>me to to get the right prosthetic legs with their insurance,

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<v Speaker 2>just to stay active. I didn't get the running blades,

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<v Speaker 2>but I had decent legs to play basketball and baseball

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid. And then once I got the running legs,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the biggest jump in my career to where

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<v Speaker 2>I was just an average kid, maybe average disabled kid

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<v Speaker 2>that could run up down the basketball court, to now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one of the fastest paralympians disabled men in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You were born without legs, hit, you're considered an amputee.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So because I had a technically at four or

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<v Speaker 2>five years old, I went back, I had a revision

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<v Speaker 2>of my legs where I had like two toes on

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<v Speaker 2>my left leg and one like baby told my right

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<v Speaker 2>leg and they just went in and just just like

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<v Speaker 2>cut them off.

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<v Speaker 1>They serve no purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they serve no purpose. I mean because that was going.

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<v Speaker 1>And whether were their feelings on them.

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<v Speaker 2>I could move them I can, like, and they they

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<v Speaker 2>cut my toes off. If you left them on, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I could, but I was getting like blisters and

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<v Speaker 2>like callouses and all my toes and so because I

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<v Speaker 2>was like pounding on them inside my socket so much

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<v Speaker 2>on my stump on that they just cut him off.

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<v Speaker 2>And so because they cut them off, technically I fell

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<v Speaker 2>into the emputee category. And it's a lot easier to

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<v Speaker 2>say emputee than congenital birth defect fiblair million.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's tough. I'm never gonna say that. What's

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<v Speaker 1>more frustrating being born without legs or being a black

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<v Speaker 1>man in America?

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, that's a good one, because they actually are close

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<v Speaker 2>to being equal. I'm not gonna lie. I get judged

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<v Speaker 2>double time hard because I get discriminated as a as

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<v Speaker 2>a black man on a daily basis, especially growing up

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<v Speaker 2>in East Tennessee. But then I also faced discrimination as

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<v Speaker 2>a man missing both of his legs and the assumption

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<v Speaker 2>of what I can and cannot do.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, emotionally, you're like in a great place. You've

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<v Speaker 1>figured life out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I would say I figured it out

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<v Speaker 2>just because all the trials and tribulations that I've been

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<v Speaker 2>through in my life that life sucks, life isn't fair.

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<v Speaker 2>So either going to cry about it or you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to laugh about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you one of these people? I assume you are

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<v Speaker 1>too positive? But no, where You're like, I wouldn't have it.

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<v Speaker 1>If I could do it all over, I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>it any other way.

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<v Speaker 2>I am. I am, I am because this is who

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares? I would change everything about yourself? Yes, would

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<v Speaker 1>you change? I mean every decision? Well, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong one. I should have done that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the wrong decisions is the lessons that you learned.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, right, I mean, yeah, yes, and theory,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm still saying I would be one of these

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<v Speaker 1>people that would want to redo and correct almost everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, but could you imagine me with legs?

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<v Speaker 2>I would just be just a boring black dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, or maybe you'd be the greatest, you know, most

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<v Speaker 1>famous athlete in the history of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>True. Or I could be a tap dancer. That's one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I think if I I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a tap dancer.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, No, No, I thought the genre of dance that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be great at tap is just fucking annoying,

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<v Speaker 1>it's loud, it's this ruining.

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<v Speaker 2>Floors just in there. If I have both my legs,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just be dancing my ass all over.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have a normal dating life?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I did, Actually I did. You know. I struggled

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid right growing up, you know, being judged

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<v Speaker 2>because of my legs, and sometimes I even dated girls

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<v Speaker 2>and didn't tell them about my legs.

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<v Speaker 1>You could, you could pull it off.

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<v Speaker 2>I could pull it off until you as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we went home and went to bed, and I could

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<v Speaker 2>not pull it off. I just like was like, pop pop, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I'm missing both of my legs.

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<v Speaker 1>I was with a girl one time and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you something, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was in my head. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's prepare for everything, because I don't. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to act like I'm not okay with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was just preparing what is she going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me? And then she told me that she she

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<v Speaker 1>had what's my call it, colsted me bag.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, ah, that's not bad, so your buttole's

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<v Speaker 1>clean was the good part. But I did have I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to prepare myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think she was going to miss a leg

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<v Speaker 2>or you know I did. I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea, but I just remember that was

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<v Speaker 1>like a week.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it was what I felt like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>weird because she has to have this conversation with everybody

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<v Speaker 3>that she's potentially gonna Right, I wear a colostomy bag, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so you obviously, if you're hiding your legs, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>real conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're not hiding, it's it's pretty much not right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's out there. And so most times, I like especially now,

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<v Speaker 2>I wear shorts that I'm out and about and people

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<v Speaker 2>obviously I get the stairs, I get the looks, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've kind of now embraced it.

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<v Speaker 1>Were there girls that were into it?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make you go like all right, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like that either?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I mean I'm kind of into that. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's a name for that. Yes, They're called devotees.

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<v Speaker 2>So devotas are individuals that are into people with missing

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<v Speaker 2>like their legs, so like if you take your leg off.

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<v Speaker 2>They like the whole nub play in the nub action.

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<v Speaker 2>Be Honestly, I've never liked the term nub, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's the that's the that's the scientific name for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have like so because I'm missing both of my legs,

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<v Speaker 2>I take my legs off in my stumps. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>have are my nubs.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're home alone, you don't have do you no

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<v Speaker 1>legs or legs?

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<v Speaker 2>It depends. It's just I guess sometimes I keep my

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<v Speaker 2>legs on. If I had a long day, I can

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<v Speaker 2>just chill. I take my legs off. I can function

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<v Speaker 2>completely with my legs off, Like I can climb on

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<v Speaker 2>counters and go use the bathroom. I can climb on

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<v Speaker 2>the bed, but I get the point A to point

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<v Speaker 2>B quicker with my legs on.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying, within a year of you getting your

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<v Speaker 1>running blade, you became what was like where did you

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<v Speaker 1>compete first?

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<v Speaker 2>So I competed in Oklahoma's like back in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and nine. It was like a local Paralympic event, and

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<v Speaker 2>I ran one hundred meters. I qualified for my team.

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<v Speaker 2>And then by my second race, they called me and

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<v Speaker 2>they invited me to Rio Dejiannaro, Brazil, And my second

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<v Speaker 2>race in track and field was in Brazil, competing internationally

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<v Speaker 2>for the USA.

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<v Speaker 1>Brazilians scary group of people.

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<v Speaker 2>So you asked, I had fun in Brazil. Rio was

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<v Speaker 2>amazing and you can imagine like like bling my eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>run two races and I'm on Copa Kabana beach, just

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<v Speaker 2>like like as a nineteen year old, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What, so much thick ass?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I like this sport. This is good.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 1>The categories in the pair of games, yes, are, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of categories. It gets very very confusing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you have because you can't compete against somebody

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<v Speaker 3>that's just slightly missing something, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if they're missing a leg, then I compete. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't potentially compete against them. They're missing both their legs,

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<v Speaker 2>then I definitely would probably compete below the knees. And

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<v Speaker 2>then if they're missing their leg above the knee, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a different category. You have blind, blind athletes in that category,

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<v Speaker 2>you have cerebral palsy athletes, and then you also have

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<v Speaker 2>wheelchair athletes too as well, and different categories within those disabilities.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean we're talking one hundred almost metal ceremonies

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<v Speaker 2>at a Paralympic Games because there's so many, so many anthems. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, it's a lot. It's funny you say that

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<v Speaker 2>because you're just constantly just hearing just like certain anthems

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<v Speaker 2>in certain countries. It is like constantly popping up. You're

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<v Speaker 2>like these guys again, if.

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<v Speaker 1>You take a knee during the national anthem, is it

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<v Speaker 1>controversial or is it like, hey, give the guy a break.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have any legs.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, most of the time I do get a

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<v Speaker 2>brain because of my disability, But I feel like if

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<v Speaker 2>I took that knee, it would cause a little controversy.

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<v Speaker 2>Legs or no legs.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that was very interesting, obviously, is that you

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<v Speaker 1>are skilled enough to compete in the Olympics. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just calling the Olympics. Your time is fast enough obviously, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And you wanted to yes, And then what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that was my goal is to compete to be

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<v Speaker 2>the fastest man in the world. Once I competed in

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<v Speaker 2>Paralympics and did that, took a silver and a bronze

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<v Speaker 2>in the twenty twelve, that's when I kind of knew

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<v Speaker 2>could I could be the fastest running the world legs

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<v Speaker 2>or no legs? So I started training because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>setting everything up.

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<v Speaker 1>But they did. They say that you you cannot do this.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not initially at first. So at first they say

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay. I went out there, broke a few world records,

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<v Speaker 2>I went to national championships, qualified it for nationals. And

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<v Speaker 2>then in twenty nineteen is when I took fifth at

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<v Speaker 2>the usa TF National Championships against the able bodied runners.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I did that and broke my own world

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<v Speaker 2>record ran forty four seconds in the four and a meters,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when the sanctions started to come and they said,

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<v Speaker 2>you have an unfair advantage in your prosthetic legs. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know? Are you kidding me, Daniel, I'm boring without

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<v Speaker 2>legs like.

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<v Speaker 1>You're preaching to the choir on this one. Yeah. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the height was the biggest.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the issue. That was the biggest issue. And so

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<v Speaker 2>you have to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>People tall, are you from stump to head.

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<v Speaker 2>On my knees, I'm like four foot four foot and

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<v Speaker 2>a half on my knees and so my and my

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<v Speaker 2>stumps are like a foot each. So I would say, oh, coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>So they said that the height advantage was the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because I missed my legs. They was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>dictate my height and tell me how tall I would

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<v Speaker 2>have been if I had my legs.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems like there can be a computer program out

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<v Speaker 1>there that could figure that.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, I know, right, And so they try to create

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<v Speaker 2>a formula, but you know, we feel like the formula

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<v Speaker 2>is off.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what was the problem with the formula?

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<v Speaker 2>I know the problem with the formula Asians.

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<v Speaker 1>And white people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was the only Asian and white men in

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<v Speaker 2>the formula.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, the formula only used Asian and white men. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>to determine your height, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And me as a black man, I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>got missed out on the poppet the test population, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't considering my body democratic what my body structure

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<v Speaker 2>could potentially be.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So but no one, no one goes, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know how tall I'm going to be?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how tall are Asian?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, that was that was the issue. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you implement me, you know into this formula that this

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<v Speaker 2>only has a representation of it was like fifty white

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<v Speaker 2>Australian men and fifteen Japanese Asian men and I come

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<v Speaker 2>out not six two, but I come out a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit under five nine, So five point eight feet I

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<v Speaker 2>know I lost six inches.

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<v Speaker 1>No one, you don't want to ever be under six feet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's horrible. I have Little Man syndrome,

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<v Speaker 2>like like, I'm just pissed off at the world every

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<v Speaker 2>time I put them on.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's done, it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, technically it is done. I'm back running at five

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<v Speaker 2>point eight five eight point eight feet competing in the Paralympics.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still kind of confessed.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're doing it in the Paralympics because well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm doing the Palympics two as well. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>back running in the Paralympics.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, but at five eight why wouldn't you Because

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have a problem with you running at six two.

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<v Speaker 2>The Paralympics had a problem me running Ye. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a new rule in Paralympics two. It was

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<v Speaker 2>both a combined rule that just started within the last

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<v Speaker 2>two to three years.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like some crazy big wig Llowier a law

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<v Speaker 1>firm here in Los Angeles, but hear this story and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know what, I feel like taking his

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<v Speaker 1>side and let's figure a way around this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I mean I've took it to the quarter sport.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the highest quarter sport in Switzerland Geneva, Switzerland, huh

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<v Speaker 2>twice and out of two times we both lost the case.

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<v Speaker 2>And at this point, I mean Tennancy could continue to

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<v Speaker 2>keep fighting it. But at this point in my career,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thirty three, I got like four or five years left.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still doing things, you know on the outside, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>still talking about it. I have a documentary coming out

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<v Speaker 2>about it. But for the most part, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>I want to beat him at their own game. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to just like accept the unfair rule and just

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<v Speaker 2>like shoving in their face.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But I wanted you in the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>I know me too. I'm watching, like so the World

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<v Speaker 2>Championships is happening right now with the able body and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing guys that I used to run with and

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<v Speaker 2>like beat and compete with, and they're like fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be great just to hear all the people like

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<v Speaker 1>shit talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, controversy, like I mean, I mean, it'd be a

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<v Speaker 2>great conversation for track and field, of course, Like it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be a great topic to go back and forth. Is

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<v Speaker 2>it fair? Is it not fair? Can this guy without

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<v Speaker 2>legs become the fastest man in the world and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it challenges society of being a disabled man and

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<v Speaker 2>being the best in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I agree. I mean track and field is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>without this for two minutes every four years, Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody thinks like, oh, the legs are getting better,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're getting faund it. But that doesn't matter. In general,

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<v Speaker 1>athletes over time have always evolved faster.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're just learning anymore. We're just knowing more about

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<v Speaker 2>Like the technology hasn't changed. We're just starting to understand

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<v Speaker 2>the carbon fiber a lot better and understanding how to

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<v Speaker 2>use it and getting it in hand of the user

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<v Speaker 2>at an early age to perform and better users.

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<v Speaker 1>So about the weight, is it supposed to be comparable

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<v Speaker 1>to weight or no.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a little bit lighter with the carbon fiber. Lighter, stronger, faster,

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<v Speaker 2>springier is always better when it comes to sprinting, and

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<v Speaker 2>so then it is an advantage I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's interesting because things on the able body side,

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<v Speaker 2>for like running materials, the spike plates, the surfaces that

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<v Speaker 2>you run on has enhanced over the past twenty thirty years. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so if these things are making able body runners faster,

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<v Speaker 2>then the things that's making a disabled runner faster should

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<v Speaker 2>have the same increase in development.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right, Well, that's tough to say that it's completely

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<v Speaker 1>even I don't how would I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, right, right, and so, but at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, it's just like it all has the

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<v Speaker 2>lens that you look at it like some people are

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<v Speaker 2>going to look at it and say, you know, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>you clearly have an unfair advantage you wear in prosthetic

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<v Speaker 2>wearing technology against able body runners. And some people be like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way you have an unfair advantage. You're missing

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<v Speaker 2>both of your legs.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your stance on a transgender people performing in sports?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a tough topic.

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<v Speaker 1>It shouldn't be. It shouldn't be tough. It should be

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<v Speaker 1>you should be you should say. Here's what I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what you should say. You should say, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fine with it. Yes, I have no issues.

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I I am fine with that. I have no issues.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's a huge controversy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well here's my thing with here's my take on this

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm gonna bring it back to you, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like when people say, oh, they have an unfair advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>or what if a man then just pretends or says

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trans and just to compete and make all this

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<v Speaker 1>money in this sport that's dominated by women, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And I say that, good, Let that person do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine.

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<v Speaker 1>That person wants to be a woman to compete and

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<v Speaker 1>make some money, great, I don't care. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a game. I don't care entertainment bringing it to

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<v Speaker 1>you or do you have the same fear in the

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<v Speaker 1>para Olympics. What if somebody's like, oh, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>cut my leg off just so I can compete against people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it would never happen in Paralympic games. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think somebody would would deliberately.

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<v Speaker 1>Think they wouldn't. But what if somebody's like, no, like

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<v Speaker 1>like let's say Bolt, it's like, you know, the under

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<v Speaker 1>my career, I'm going to see if I can do it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna cut myself off from the knees down and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna compete. And that's not fair. He did it

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<v Speaker 1>on purpose?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, it Bolt cut his legs off, it would

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<v Speaker 2>try to compete. I would. I would dust Usain Bolt

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<v Speaker 2>with his legs cut off, with his legs cut off.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, well, I mean that's that's a big claim. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a big claim.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just you know, as somebody that does get

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<v Speaker 2>discriminated against, you know, I really true. I do believe

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<v Speaker 2>in equality and just like a fair chance. So so

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm in a face of discrimination on a daily

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<v Speaker 2>basis as a black disabled man, So I like seeing

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<v Speaker 2>that it is a very unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>How much longer do you have at that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the game. That's a good thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Three thirty three, Danuline, And you know the Olympics and

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<v Speaker 2>Paralympics will be in La I know, eight twenty twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm gonna be thirty eight in twenty twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>so god, I can pull it off.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a that'd be exciting to run in

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<v Speaker 1>your own.

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<v Speaker 3>Back, right, I mean, look at Tom Brady made it

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<v Speaker 3>to like Tom Brady wouldn't do shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady might as well not have legs. He stands

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<v Speaker 1>back there and he dinks and dunk down the field like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom can make it. Lebron's still out there ying.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, fine, Lebron's an example that I accept.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, look at Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>But when people talk about Tom Brady is the greatest athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm like, what are you talking about? There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing athletic about what he does.

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 2>He dropped back three steps. It has one of the right.

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>He throws that he can throw a ball good and

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>he and it can move a little bit, but barely.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not that's not the greatest athlete. That's absurd.

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 2>True. True, you've seen his forty before. Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like sad dad body bouncing down the road. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>when when you race, whatever crosses the finish line first.

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<v Speaker 2>No, when you race, it's your torso that crosses, so

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 2>your head, not your hand, but it has. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>you see runners lean.

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I always saw lean. I just like whatever.

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.959
<v Speaker 2>Whatever nos, No, is from your from your shoulders to

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<v Speaker 2>your to your to your basically your torso, your shoulders

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<v Speaker 2>to your hip so you can dive across the line.

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<v Speaker 2>If that crosses your good to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Has your leg ever flew off during a race?

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:25.919
<v Speaker 2>It has? Yes, twenty sixteen national championships. I'm running one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred meters, sprinting all out. I go to step at

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<v Speaker 2>meter ninety five, I look down, leg is gone, and

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 2>when I fell down, just like tucked and rolled over

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<v Speaker 2>the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what place did you come in.

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 2>It's a second, So it worked. It worked out, but

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 2>it does happen every so often.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to make you speak for an entire

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>race of people and the sex of people that you're not,

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to ask you this question regardless, because

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I've always thought about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Running.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in the Olympics, obviously, I'm talking to sprints, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>dominated by black athletes. Fine, okay, well now I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about females. If you watch swimming, winning and losing is

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<v Speaker 1>within a point second or whatever, the tiny fraction of

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<v Speaker 1>a second, swimmers shave every bit of their body everything

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 1>because it gives them a slight bit of advantage. Female

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>black racers will have so much hair, jewelry and everything

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Why wouldn't Why wouldn't there be ones like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm shaving everything that I'm doing, no rings, I'm doing,

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 3>no doing, because all of that is a weight. Technically, yes, yes,

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 3>but no one ever says no, I'm not gonna have

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, running though, you'll have facial hair you shouldn't.

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, the facial hair, the beards, the you know,

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the chains, like anything that goes into it because it

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 2>is scientifically proven that if you look good, you run faster.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't Yeah, that's what this insanity. I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't believe there's not one athlete. It's like, no,

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna streamline to nothing.

0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think with the force and the power

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<v Speaker 2>to technically that you're that you're producing on the track.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't Yes, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wait, if you're if you have all this hair

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and you didn't have it you are now lighter, Lighter

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>makes faster.

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean technically, I guess, yes, lighter is is

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<v Speaker 2>faster in theory.

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>If I tell you to drag a garden hose, you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Be slow, true, true, But if you're going to win

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 2>it anyway, you want to cross the line, look good

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>with your hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you know, I just I just am I I'm

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 1>amazed that I feel like there could be some time

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>shaved off. Nobody cares about this, just my thing that

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I sit at home and go I could make them faster.

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be the old man going to put your

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>jewelry away, put your hang away faster. Talk about the

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>booger sugar ah.

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Man, Yes, that was that was a crazy time in

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>my life, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you were just a partier?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, I was. I was partying. I was hanging

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 2>around the wrong people. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like you're hanging on the right.

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<v Speaker 3>According to the Living Committee, and you got you got

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 3>suspended for a year for doing yes positive for cocaine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was in you know, coming from Tennessee moving

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 2>to California.

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't blame California for.

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Your crazy California cocaine to Tennessee. Are you kidding me?

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 2>These have a moonshine and that's it. But you know,

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 2>moving out to California, just training, you know, it was

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 2>a part of my life where I just couldn't say no,

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I was. I was, you know, partying, you know, hanging

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 2>out with the wrong people, you know, just people in general.

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I go to a track meet and I test positive

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 2>for cocaine crap like, and then I get suspended for

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 2>a year, which.

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Was just like because they thought it was a steroid.

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well well I was running so fast that it's

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>a it's technically not not a performance and hands and drug.

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 2>But it cannot be in your system at a tract meat.

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, edit, tract meat, you know.

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>You obviously knew this, so you were trying to get

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>away with it. You know.

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't trying to get away with it. I just

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 2>thought it would be out of my system, like before

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I got to the track meet. But I was like,

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 2>at the track.

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Did it last night?

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 2>No? I was like, Oh, the problem was I was

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 2>like at the track meet, like looking like Bobby Brown,

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 2>just like my jaw was to the left and I'm jogging.

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 2>But and they was like, we got to test this guy.

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Do they not test everyone? And I don't test everyone,

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 2>so it's like just.

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>The black people with the chains, right D. So that

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>was bad. So when you got tested, you were like

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>you didn't think you were going to fail.

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:25.959
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't think I was going to I think

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I was going to be out of my system. I'd

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 2>be good. They actually caught the medical bollicle breakdown of cocaine,

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 2>so they actually didn't find cocaine. They find like what

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 2>cocaine breaks down into your system. And then with finding that,

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 2>they say you've taken it.

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Before and you denied that.

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Man, I mean like, the ain't no way that. I

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 2>was like, yes, it was me that had to go

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 2>into a like an Olympic Paralympic like drug program and

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:50.479
<v Speaker 2>I had to take like three drug tests for a

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 2>full year clean up.

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Was it easy to clean up?

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 2>It was because I really wanted to really do this.

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 2>I knew I had a special opportunity. Obviously, I was

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 2>like having fund in that part of my life. Kind

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 2>of goes back to the conversation we had earlier, Like

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't regret, you know, a few things

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 2>in my life I kind of regret. I regret that

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 2>I just skip that race, I just gift that race.

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 2>But I finally got to tap into my true potential,

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 2>like you know, cleaned up my life, you know, putting

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 2>down the party and and then I made the decision

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be great and then put everything down

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 2>just like focus on track. And by doing that, that's

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>when things started happening for me.

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>See that's good. Good. I like the idea. I've always

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>been just kind of like I don't want to focus

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>too hard because I don't want to find out that

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not great.

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, right, that's the fear too right, Like I'm not

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 2>good enough for it. I'm not the man that I

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:36.959
<v Speaker 2>tell people that.

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, so it's nice to be like Oh, if I

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 3>tried harder, I could be right.

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, and that's what I was doing. Like, well, I

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't try that harder. Well, I stayed up late party

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 2>and hanging out hang and then once I did that

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 2>and gave it everything, I mean, like dedicate my life

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 2>to this.

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Like are you faster right the second than you've ever been?

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not because I'm shorter. Because yeah, I'm in

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 2>the best shape I've ever been in my life right now,

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 2>and like so to years ago, I was the fifth

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 2>fastest for heady meter run in the world.

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean I assume everyone was doing the hight thing.

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah as well, So it's interesting even playing field.

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was an even playing field. Paralympians across the

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 2>board lost their height, but because I was a black

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 2>man implemented into this formula that did not represent me,

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I became the shortest out of everybody. For example, the

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 2>average emputee doubleg emput lost two to three inches. I

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>lost six inches.

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, but that seems this versus this

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>seems yes, I mean it seems fair.

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>You gotta get it back somehow, right.

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I think we all know what I was referring to.

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>He's give him six inches. All right, fair enough. Hey,

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:44.479
<v Speaker 1>by the way, that that's a bathroom behind that door.

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna go, but I'm worried that if I'm

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 1>in there, that you would potentially shoot through the door.

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I don't want to lump you

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:03.919
<v Speaker 1>guys all together. But talk about Oscar. Yeah you've raced

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:04.359
<v Speaker 1>against him.

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 2>I again, Yes, he is a white guy. It's interesting

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 2>because he's a white South African and I'm a black American.

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 2>But once the whole controversy went down and I'm walking

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 2>through the airport with my running blades and people just

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 2>heard this, you know, African blade runner. Ah, so a

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 2>lot of people like initially thought I was the you know,

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 2>I was the guy you know.

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>So you shot Oscars white?

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:33.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they thought they they thought that legit, Like wait,

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I heard an African guy missing both of his legs

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, no, no, no, he's he's a

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 2>white South African. So it's like, you don't have to worry.

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I competed. I was actually the last person

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 2>to compete alongside of Pastorius in twenty twelve at the

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Paralymic Games.

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>They weren't the last.

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 2>One, yeah, yeah, yeah, someone else was.

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Trying to run.

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, that's not that's insensitive. Was he was he faster

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 3>than you? Yes he was at the time. So at

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 3>the time we competed, he was faster than me. But

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 3>I ended up breaking all of his world records. So

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 3>I went forty He went forty five three five, it's

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 3>his fastest fourmeter. I went forty four thirty eight, so

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 3>I ran about almost a whole second.

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>He's still in jail. I had to look it up.

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Yes he is, but for some reason he still didn't

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>get what he was supposed to get.

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he got. I think it ended up with thirteen

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I think thirteen years for culpable homicide. Do you think

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 2>he'll run in la I don't think so. I think

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 2>he might. I mean banned. No, he's not banned. I mean,

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 2>to my understanding, he's not banned from the year.

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>What do you have to do to get banned cocaine?

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 2>You just a little bit of bookisher, You're out. You're

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 2>right out of here.

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>You fire four blind land your bathroom. You're fine. Do

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of friends now because of the

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>in the pair of community, like from the Olympics and stuff,

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I do Do you need that or do you go

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>enough already?

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 2>Like, I mean, I like it. It's just like we're

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 2>a community. Like so like we all get together and

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 2>we like go to dinner or whatever, and can you

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>imagine like four dudes, like we're all missing our legs, right,

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 2>So like we hop out the car and just like

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>there's four dudes missing both of their legs.

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>The servers like, oh, this is gonna be a shitty tip.

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 2>These guys, that's just gonna be terrible. They expect half

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 2>off or something. I don't know what's going on. So

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 2>I was going for but it works out, and it's

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 2>just like it's it's cool to like to build that community.

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:22.919
<v Speaker 2>And that's what's honestly, that's exciting too about the LA

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty eight. It's gonna be the first time the

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Paralympic Game is going to be in LA. The Games

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 2>have been in LA twice, but the first time for

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>the Paralympics to be in LA.

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 1>How great is your parking situation at the Olympic Village?

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's I mean I park right in the front

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 2>is handicapped parking, which, by the way, you don't have

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 2>to pay for handicap parking in LA. So I have

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 2>a handicapped sticker.

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Wait, wait, in LA, you don't if if you have

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the street a handicaps, you don't have to pay meters.

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 2>You pay meters, you don't pay meters, which is like gold.

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 2>That's best.

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 1>That becomes every spot becomes a handicaps. Right. How come

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.839
<v Speaker 1>we say handicapped spot but we don't say handicapped people?

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 2>No, that's so interesting, right, It's like you say the

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 2>word handicap, right, because it's like, technically it's very inappropriate

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 2>to call somebody handicap. We're kind of working on the

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 2>whole the word disabled, right, We're trying to change the

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 2>word disabled because you're done. You're not doing nothing to

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 2>the word disability where you're living with this and you're

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 2>moving with this, and it's just like the word you

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, what it comes with. But yeah,

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 2>handicap spot is appropriate, but handicap person is definitely.

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.240
<v Speaker 1>No non acceptable. I knew that. Seventy five and Sonny out,

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.919
<v Speaker 1>you go with shorts or you go with.

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Pants seventy five and sunny shorts.

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean I feel like shorts are always technically pants

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>for you.

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, right, my legs if my legs do

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 2>not get cold. So it can be like thirty or

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>it can be negative twenty. I could be in Minnesota

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 2>and I can wear shorts in it and it wouldn't matter.

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 1>How long have you been married?

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm engaged. Oh yeah, I'm not married yet.

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, are you're definitely going to do it?

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:38:54.480 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Are you going to drag your feet? It never gets old.

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.919
<v Speaker 1>It gets Where'd you meet your uh, your partner.

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Back home in Tennessee. We grew up together.

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>It's a mistake. That's a mistake.

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 2>She was the girl next door.

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't do that. No way. You meet the girl

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>in l A.

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, the girls in LA. They're nice. They just

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm a country boy from Tennessee. It was it was

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 2>too much. We're no longer a country's boy. Those days

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:28.879
<v Speaker 2>are gone. They're gone.

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh you have a sponsorship?

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I do. I do have a sponsor, Yes, I did.

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 2>The crazy thing is I do have a shoe sponsor.

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm sponsored by Nike's great. Yeah you should be sponsored

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 2>y shoes? Yeah, because what better endorsement to be. Like, Listen,

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 2>if I had feet, I would want to wear Nike.

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 2>These are the ones I would wear, right, And so

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I get the question, what's your most comfortable Nike shoe

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 2>that's out there in the market that you like to wear.

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I don't know, I don't feel nothing.

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, whoever pays me that feels the best. By

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the way, you were on a game show on Netflix

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>two hundred grand on Away, Yes, which I didn't even

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>know was a show at first.

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Me and neither or they just torture you, oh my god,

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 2>which we didn't know what the show was until like

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 2>we got there. They locked us in a room and

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 2>took our cell phones and then they told us what

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 2>the show was, and then we had to make affery.

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 1>How did you sign up to that?

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Just random stuff in the off season when I'm not training,

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I like to just like be anywhere and everywhere, And

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I signed up for the show. I booked it, and

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 2>I freaking won it. It was It was pretty cool.

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 1>It was that's great. Yeah, yeah, you actually got the

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 1>money and I actually.

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Got the money. It was like two hundred grand, So

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 2>it's like.

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Is that more than you make running?

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean at the time, it definitely, it definitely was.

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 2>It lasted me like a year's worth of La rent,

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 2>So it was it was pretty cool.

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>You make money as a runner, yeah, you can, you can,

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you can.

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean you have sponsorships, you have metal money, you

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 2>have prize money, metal money. So metal money is like

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 2>the metal the money that you win when you win

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 2>a medal from the federations.

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I thought you had to pawn off the metal.

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 2>I know. I mean the gold that comes into the metal,

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 2>you take it to the pawn shop and whenever they

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 2>get you like ponzars, it's just.

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Like all right, so you get a chunk from that

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>as well.

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and of course me too, like you know, I

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 2>do other stuff. I try to, you know, be versatile,

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 2>just not be a runner. So I do motivational speaking.

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 2>I do a little commercial acting too as well. I'm

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 2>trying to get more into acting too as well, just

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 2>like trying to be that representation just with the for

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:28.800
<v Speaker 2>the disabled community.

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Would you be like one of these people that if say,

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>there was a famous person that was being portrayed in

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the movie that didn't have legs, would you be like, well,

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.760
<v Speaker 1>then you can't put an actor in that has legs.

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>That's not fair.

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's so interesting because there's so few of us,

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and I guess in the business or in the industry,

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 2>it's like missing both their legs or with the disability.

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 2>So I mean there are more calls for actors with disability.

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 2>So I'm trying to like step up so when they

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.319
<v Speaker 2>do need an actor missing both their legs, I can

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 2>be I have the reels and enough you know, talent

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 2>to step up into that role.

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Could you be in the NFL? Why can't you be

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL?

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 2>No, I think I can. But if I get tackled

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 2>and my leg comes off, like that might not look

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 2>flag football?

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>You keep going.

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just like with that count, can I just

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 2>like keep running? My leg is like.

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Shit, what's the what's the smell situation? Underneath the sock at.

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 2>The end of the man it gets it gets bad.

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 2>That That's how I knew that my fiance was the

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>one when she like took them off and washed them

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 2>for me. And just like because it gets atrocious.

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Like like it's faces like a watch band. Yeah, like

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that type of smell.

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Imagine because there's no air that's getting in, so it's

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 2>like all the sweat and I'm like, I would say

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm one of the most active amputees in the world.

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 2>Do you swim I cannot swim, I know, I mean

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 2>I won't drown. I'm not a swimmer.

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:54.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean swimming for exercise is the only thing on

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the planet worse than running for exercise.

0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like sledding in the pool. That sounds that sounds terrible.

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>You ever had a day job I did? Yeah?

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my day job was selling shoes a chance or

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 2>at a shoe store. I sold shoes at a shoe store.

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 1>You ever wear dress shoes?

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I do wear dress shoes every song, but they have

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 2>the heels on them, and it's just like they thick

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 2>at the heels on a dress shoes just like throw

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 2>me completely off. So I just wear sneakers most of

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the time.

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Is there any advantages to uh, you know, not having

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the bombyl I would assume a disadvantage. Bathtub, I assume

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:31.399
<v Speaker 1>you already slide down.

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So what I do is I found a little

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.839
<v Speaker 2>quick like you know and hack right, So you put

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 2>it like either a towel or like a washcloth or

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 2>something just like you know, tears something down and it

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:43.359
<v Speaker 2>gets wet on but yeah, on your butt and then

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.439
<v Speaker 2>you sit on your butt, so you don't you don't

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 2>slide right.

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 1>And then and the next time that your fiance is

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:50.760
<v Speaker 1>in the shower washing their face, Like, wait a second,

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>is this your ass slipper?

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Just like it's like a butt print, just like, but

0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 3>you probably do have quite a few hacks.

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, if you. I mean, the handicap parking is

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 2>just like a huge hack for me, just like I

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:05.320
<v Speaker 2>pull up. I mean Trader Joe's.

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>You like Trader Joe's. I do their produces ship. I mean,

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>but it's produce all the snacks. You're right, because you're

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>a big druggy.

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I got the munchies. I'm just do you eat healthy?

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I do eat healthy? I do. I'm always in a

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 2>well in season. I try to stay in a Calgary season.

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 2>So season is just like where I'm about to get

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 2>ready to like ramp up to compete.

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Right, but what is the actually like.

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Say, from December all the way up to August September,

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 2>so right now, I mean I'm technically an off season.

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Do you gain weight?

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 2>I do? I do gain weight. I gain like five

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 2>to ten pounds. I've been eating. You can't tell I've

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 2>been eating good?

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:43.479
<v Speaker 1>You look I mean look like an apple.

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I mean, I'm like I'm like five pounds

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.359
<v Speaker 2>heavy right now, like five ten pounds heavy and then

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I shred up as we get closer to the do

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 2>like my biggest race of the year. So I was

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:54.919
<v Speaker 2>in Paris a month ago for like three weeks for

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 2>my World Championships.

0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:57.720
<v Speaker 1>You like Paris, I love Paris.

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Paris. Paris was cool. Everybody was just like sitting around

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 2>eating like you so late. Yeah, they eat eat for

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 2>three hours, like each meal is like and a half hours,

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 2>which is crazy. And everybody smoking cigarettes just like smoking

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:11.320
<v Speaker 2>and eating and happy.

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just had in New York City if it

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 1>was only four stories high. Yeah, You've seen the world.

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty exciting.

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I have. I have. I've seen the world. You know.

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I've been to like and this all came from running.

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 2>So I've been to like, you know, Brazil, you know,

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand, Czech Republic, you know, all through Europe. You know,

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I even went to Latviia.

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 1>You ever been to China?

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 2>No, I still haven't been in China yet. No, I

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 2>haven't been in China.

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 1>To go and talked Japan to the people that have

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 1>measured your heights.

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got something for you. Yell at them.

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 1>You guys got it wrong. Do you ever run a marathon?

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Hell? No, are you kidding me? Like that is twenty

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.360
<v Speaker 2>six point two miles? Are you kidding? No? Absolutely, I

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 2>would never.

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I held a marathon once, all on treadmills.

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh really?

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 1>How did that gos funny? I had like like like

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>fifty treadmills out on the pier in Hermosa Beach?

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Was it professional runners?

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I put a few ringers in, like a couple of

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>guys like you know, Kenyons that like just kill it. Yeah,

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 1>two hours, twelve minutes or something.

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.719
<v Speaker 2>They're sprinting the whole time, which is just ridiculous.

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, how is that just some people just

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>can run? I just I get my chest wants to explode.

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just like genetically speaking, just like some people

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:28.319
<v Speaker 2>just like have that sprinter runner you know just look

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.479
<v Speaker 2>or just you know, build about them. So that's why

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:32.240
<v Speaker 2>I look at you and just know that I would

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 2>destroy you.

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:34.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, now I'm over the hill. Now I'm hold

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 1>as shit. So it doesn't it's you know, it's easy.

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:40.839
<v Speaker 1>But all right, well listen, Blake, we appreciate you. We're

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna we'll be cheering for you, and then h I

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know, just I'm just I just want to see you,

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess in twenty twenty eight. Yes, here in our

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>own backyard.

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be awesome. Daniel, Man, I really appreciate just

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 2>like taking the time to hear my story. I had

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:55.400
<v Speaker 2>so much fun. This is awesome, Thanks, buddy, Yeah, I

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 2>appreciate it.

0:46:55.920 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 1>All right, Pasha, how was that one, Carl? I'll tell

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 1>you what bothered me. How quickly Blake profiled me. The

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>thing that he says people do to him constantly, he

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:14.799
<v Speaker 1>immediately does it to me, judges me by my glasses

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and a sweater, assuming that I'm not an athlete. People

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 1>always underestimate how quick I am. I'm gonna have to

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:26.719
<v Speaker 1>teach him a lesson. He said he could raise me anywhere,

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 1>anytime and smoke me. Oh okay, all right, well let's

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 1>see how that gobot does on the beach. I'm not

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 1>even asking for a head start today, No head start.

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean you do have me on that.

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 1>You do have me on the beach. I mean, this

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 1>is where it's at. Besides, what's better than the feeling

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 1>of sand between your toes?

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's my It's actually my favorite. All right, let

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 2>me do my drills.

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 1>You do your drill. God, I'm gonna do my drills.

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Are We're going all the day down there?

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:55.800
<v Speaker 1>You see the end fifty yard dash.

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I talked a lot of shit. I talked a little

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 2>bit too much shit.

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing all white, just so you know what you're

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 1>racing against.

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:05.879
<v Speaker 2>Should we do this day?

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:07.839
<v Speaker 1>Listen, I'm ready whenever they are.

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I can't move. I did not move in this sad

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 2>I did that with a necklace. What good raise a

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 2>dude doesn't?

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't don't beat yourself up. No, don't, don't do it.

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't look at as a loss. Look at it as

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:44.840
<v Speaker 1>a milestone or at the end of your career. I

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know, was there ever any doubt. I'd like to

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 1>dedicate my victory to able bodied people everywhere. I hope

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I've inspired you. Representation matters. I've got some stand up

0:48:57.719 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 1>dates coming up in San Diego and Rena boys wear

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:04.439
<v Speaker 1>Pink dot com And don't feel bad for Blake. As

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a consolation prize, I gave him a gift. Every guest

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:11.919
<v Speaker 1>on our show will receive something from me. I don't

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>purchase anything. I just find something in my home that

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I think they would appreciate. Also, it's an easy way

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to declutter. All right, I'll see you guys next week.

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>All right here, I got you skateboard, but I don't.

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.160
<v Speaker 1>This isn't for you to ride. You give it your daughter,

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 1>she could ride. I don't want you like going around

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Venice Beach.

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 2>No, my legs off and just like I don't want it. No. Okay,

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:36.880
<v Speaker 2>thanks Mabe. I appreciate it. I'm gonna write this all

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:37.280
<v Speaker 2>the time.

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Not in the sand.