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Speaker 1: Well, I know we're talking about Killer cool. This don't

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Speaker 1: work without number forty. So this is how much money

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Speaker 1: we need. And it was no hesitation. Chris Brown was like,

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Speaker 1: I done whatever we need because this doesn't work without forty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the o GZ. This is a playmaker

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Speaker 2: original prexentle by DraftKings and oh my.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, oh my, we got ourselves a doozy that

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Speaker 3: that means we can't prepared.

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Speaker 4: You got the ear ring, I got this tight jersey sitting.

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 3: Painted on as your rookie year, listen to your rookie year.

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Speaker 4: Listen back in the day when I first got on

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Speaker 4: him about dressing and the fitted ship this is what

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Speaker 4: But the times changed so much.

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Speaker 3: Not that way.

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Speaker 4: They ship three times to I just caught up with.

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Speaker 3: The apology on the o G the podcast for all of.

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Speaker 4: I've always given you credit for being the trend setter

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Speaker 4: with your fashion. My brother, yeah, waved way more curse

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Speaker 4: and I was ready to have at that time.

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Speaker 2: And I was ready to express yourself. Coach, that's all.

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Speaker 2: Now he does get a small jersey on, there's no

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Speaker 2: doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: Right now, Killer, all you wear is fucking hoodies and

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Speaker 4: sweatpants you've been wearing that. Spice it up with the

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Speaker 4: Iran boy today though, shout.

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Speaker 2: Before we get going here, though, we've gotta give some

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Speaker 2: flower bro d. Probably to me, most underrated player that's

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Speaker 2: ever played, and that says a lot because you're a

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. But one thing you might not have,

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Speaker 2: you got a finals MVP.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like what O G's.

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Speaker 4: Got got Olympic gold medal past one hundred thousand, describing okay, okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 4: trying to make a little money.

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Speaker 3: I can't turn without saying the old G podcast every well, man,

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Speaker 3: You're all everywhere.

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Speaker 2: But for real, man, appreciate you coming in here. This

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Speaker 2: is gonna be fun because we just talk about it.

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Speaker 2: We live a lot of our ship that we did live.

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Speaker 4: Just off the top of my head. Three time champion

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Speaker 4: flamer uh huh, leading leading scorer for the Heat uh huh,

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Speaker 4: all all time Yeah, Olympic gold medals.

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Speaker 2: Ye uh, NBA scoring champ, NBA.

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Speaker 4: Scoring champion two thousand picking rolls, my boy, that's up

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Speaker 4: scoring champ without leader in guards block block shots for

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Speaker 4: what guards under six six foot five eleven?

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Speaker 2: What that?

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Speaker 4: What's the number again?

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Speaker 3: Five eleven?

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Speaker 2: Break.

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Speaker 4: You can tell us you're real heightened, now doog. I'm

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Speaker 4: about telling the people how tall you really is. I'm

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Speaker 4: six three, and boy, you're lying six and I was

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Speaker 4: and I guess what I was six sax two. The

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Speaker 4: only one of us that's sitting up here that was

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Speaker 4: really their height, Ladies and gentleman is Mike.

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Speaker 3: I am six three fourths Mike killer? What ill you

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Speaker 3: think I'm killing the six three?

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Speaker 2: Damn?

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Speaker 3: That man is six two and a half.

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Speaker 4: You got long ass on and I'm six six and

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Speaker 4: a half and I leave you six and all you

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Speaker 4: did was shoot. You should have gave me your mother

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Speaker 4: fucking had two more inches.

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Speaker 2: Promise a white guy six six just shooting, but not

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Speaker 2: last long coach be a little taller.

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Speaker 4: You possibly killed.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Ship I take a white I can

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Speaker 4: shoot on my team seven days a week or twice

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Speaker 4: on sunthing for the show.

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Speaker 2: We gotta talk about a lot of this stuff because

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Speaker 2: you guys came in to the lead together different routes.

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Speaker 2: We're both fifth picking and draft pick.

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Speaker 3: Where you do.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, that's why we go. That's

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Speaker 4: that's this ship I be talking about. Hey, you get drafted,

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Speaker 4: but I listen, how many years you play?

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Speaker 3: Twenty years?

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Speaker 4: That's what you did. Say that I got a lot

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Speaker 4: of boys that got drafted. You know what I'm saying, Hey.

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Speaker 2: Give me something because y'all come in together. That's like the.

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Speaker 4: Man had thirty five cavities, which just ask me to

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Speaker 4: tell your story. The first time we met, we spent

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when we bonded.

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Speaker 4: That's when this motherfucker. I sat in the fucking waiting

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Speaker 4: room for this motherfucker like he was my wife having

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Speaker 4: Dinnis off, Liz.

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Speaker 1: I come from the hood, man, We ain't had no

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Speaker 1: dental So when I got a chance to get some insurance,

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna get all this ship fixed it.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna do this today.

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Speaker 4: We'll get everything fixed today, right now.

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Speaker 3: Goddamn what you been eating, Niles?

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Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Went through it all. But that's the worst place in

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Speaker 3: America to go.

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Speaker 4: The d Wade. Y'all see, now, that ain't the d Wade.

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Speaker 4: I reread, no, bro, My grill was Jack the man

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Speaker 4: was eating chicken and spaghetti. I said, what the fuck?

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Speaker 3: Wall First of all, that's a what do you mean

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Speaker 4: That don't go together.

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Speaker 3: No fishing grits with.

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Speaker 3: That was I didn't eat that growing up.

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Speaker 1: Grits was for breakfast, like eggs and sausages. Jimmy Dean's

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Speaker 3: Fire by the way, golden sausages. Ever.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we spent the whole summer together, bro the

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Speaker 4: He was real quiet and ship like. I wasn't quiet.

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Speaker 4: I was like, let's go, let's hang out. We was

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Speaker 3: I didn't go. I didn't go nowhere. I didn't know nobody.

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Speaker 1: The only person I knew was you di and he

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Speaker 1: this man over here was in practice, because you know,

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Speaker 3: So I was able to show up. Damn, I was

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Speaker 3: I'm on the sideline. I'm watching the practice and.

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Speaker 3: I see the braids in the back, just flying up.

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Speaker 3: But he's just doing the.

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Speaker 1: Things that I'm from. I'm from Chicago. I'm from the crib.

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Speaker 1: And so the way we play the game, we just

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Speaker 1: told me my whole career, you keep falling, you ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to play long. We think about that later.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we got to get to it. So I

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, who is that? He was like,

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Speaker 3: U d he looked a little different. You think he

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Speaker 3: went on. He went off because I remember him not

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Speaker 3: getting drafted. And then I didn't hear anything. I dropped

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Speaker 3: off at the airport. I picked him up, like I passed,

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Speaker 3: like three times, said.

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Speaker 2: He said, He said, you're gonna pick me up. I said,

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Speaker 2: I'm at the airport because I'm staying out in my bank.

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Speaker 5: I said, bo ship, there ain't no fat.

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Speaker 3: My man was like fed oub what.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I gotta tell you funny.

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Speaker 4: Hey, listen, I know my rule.

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Speaker 3: I don't get jokes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I got one. I got one, one yeah, one?

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Speaker 2: All right, So we still got some action. So we're

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Speaker 2: on the three hundred whatever that thirty and thirty at Florida.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this fucking suicide.

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Speaker 2: Suicide thirty thirty suicide.

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Speaker 3: Thirty seconds yeah, thirty yeah, ten minutes.

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Speaker 4: You run thirty seconds, You got thirty seconds rest and

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Speaker 4: you started guying you run a suicide.

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Speaker 2: We're doing it. He all like he had like sixteen

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Speaker 2: and then Florida the old place, and it's not this

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Speaker 3: It's the old had a.

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Speaker 2: Cage around it. This motherfucker grab that cage and I'm like, hell,

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Speaker 2: come on, man, you only got former. He looked that.

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Speaker 2: I swear to God, I was like, oh, ship.

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Speaker 3: Game along, So.

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Speaker 4: I had that, gave it my all, I said I have.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you everything I got. Once we get

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Speaker 4: to that point, yeah, I ain't got it. The only

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Speaker 3: One thing we can both say. We'll go to war

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Speaker 3: that all day. Man, both of you guys listening every

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Speaker 4: I almost had to go to with him when I

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Speaker 4: first met him, tell him ja, oh man, God rest

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Speaker 4: is soul man man almost yeah, God rest is so

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Speaker 4: god bless o J.

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Speaker 3: Man he almost o j O J.

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Speaker 4: Girl tried to hit on this man.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I don't remember that part.

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Speaker 4: Listen here, man were living in the mutiny man. This

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Speaker 4: But we already know he did the ship man, we assume.

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Speaker 4: But so she talking to him in the lobby. He's

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Speaker 4: just being nice and friendly, but he quiet. But the

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Speaker 4: day before I done seeing on the elevator with the juice.

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Speaker 4: That's the juice woman. He being a little too friendly. Now,

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Speaker 4: the conversation that went on about seven minutes. Now I

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Speaker 4: should have stopped that too. So now when she walks away,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell they were talking about.

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Speaker 4: When she water, I said, listen, man, that's the juice,

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Speaker 4: old lady.

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Speaker 3: You say the juice.

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Speaker 4: I say, yeah, man Oja, I say the killer. I

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Speaker 4: say not. I say not my boy. I say not,

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Speaker 4: my boy. Listen.

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Speaker 3: This is what he said though.

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Speaker 4: I said, listen, I ain't gonna tell you what to

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Speaker 4: I just understand that we're gonna have to ride on

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Speaker 4: this nigga. Beat that out. We don't have to ride

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Speaker 4: on the juice because he clearly thinks he can do

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Speaker 4: it the fuck you want to do by his women.

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Speaker 4: This is what I'm gonna tell you. So now that happened.

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Speaker 4: The next day, come around, she come down me and

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Speaker 4: d Wade. The Wade he go to other motherfuck away.

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Speaker 1: you got Kobe Bryant your drift class, Alan Irvis and

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, when you got these goats, these conversation in

442
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Speaker 1: the conversation, so we are in the conversation to be

443
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Speaker 1: one of the top, you know, drivet class.

444
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Speaker 3: And when you look at it, you even go down to.

445
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Speaker 1: The David West of the drivet class, you go down

446
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 1: to it was that guy in Dallas, Howard, Josh Josh Howard.

447
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 3: Was a class.

448
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 1: So when you start going deep and you start seeing

449
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 1: Nick Collinson's of the world, and you know how deep

450
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Speaker 1: it was in that standpoint, in that sense you started

451
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Speaker 1: putting two thousand and three like, okay, they did something.

452
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that nice class the top with stack though.

453
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Speaker 2: I don't want to jump. But we talked about coach

454
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 2: bow earlier, and then you talked about this draft class.

455
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 3: Did you all turn put this big three thing together?

456
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 2: Seriously?

457
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

458
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 2: I played on the team. I still don't know the answer.

459
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 2: So the people at home really to hear the answer.

460
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, it's I mean, it's I'm sure everyone

461
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 3: has their own version.

462
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 4: First of all, version yours.

463
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure everyone has.

464
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Speaker 4: The only version I know was the version that my

465
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 4: ass was almost out of him.

466
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were gonna let that. My man was gone already.

467
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 1: I had to you know, you can't hear somebody going

468
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 1: so far away like you need you need. My man

469
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 1: was like, I'm out of here. But now I wasn't

470
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't gonna let that happen. If I

471
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Speaker 1: if I could do anything about it, it wasn't gonna

472
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Speaker 1: feel right.

473
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Speaker 3: But you know how happened, man conversations. It happened Lebron.

474
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Speaker 3: Give credit to Lebron.

475
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Speaker 1: Uh, he was at a period in his career where

476
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Speaker 1: he started seeing something he wanted to see something different

477
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Speaker 1: for himself. And so because of that, you know this

478
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 1: guy coming off for We both were always in seven

479
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: years of our career at that time, so we all

480
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Speaker 1: have done some amazing individual things. I think he had

481
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 1: two MVPs at the time. I already had my finals

482
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: at MIAMIP I'm straight, I'm sitting back like one day

483
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Speaker 1: the h call. But it was a time where one

484
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 1: man we had already won. We already experienced what that was.

485
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: And then we went through losing, we went through rebuilding,

486
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: and I was tired of that. I was actually leaving

487
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Speaker 1: Miami at that time. Really I didn't think because I

488
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 1: didn't think that nobody out there that we could get

489
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: was gonna help us get to that level. Not that

490
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: they want good players, I just didn't think it was enough.

491
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: So we had conversations level like this is free agency.

492
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: We are looking we are free to go and experience

493
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Speaker 1: like what we wanted at that time. I wanted to

494
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Speaker 1: be a part of a team that could win, and

495
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Speaker 1: for me, my hometown team could win.

496
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Speaker 3: But I was like, man, I'm going back home. I'm

497
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Speaker 3: going to Chicago. I'm going I played seven years here,

498
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Speaker 3: I want a championship.

499
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Speaker 1: It's time to go to the next And for me,

500
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 1: that was my mentality going to free agency outside of Miami,

501
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: and now, of course Miami was still in there for me.

502
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 1: But I got that call, man, I got that call

503
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Speaker 1: from number six.

504
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Speaker 2: Crazy thing is I was a part of that free

505
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: agency class. Probably got a few different phone calls and

506
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Speaker 2: you got during that time.

507
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: Was a part of that phrase, cu Damn.

508
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: What I'm saying though, is like I remember watching because

509
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: when you're a part of those when you're part of

510
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 2: that free agency, you're watching what's happening.

511
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: You watching the dominoes.

512
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have great self awareness. I know and tell

513
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 2: certain names are coming off this board. My phone was.

514
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 3: Gonna be, you know what I mean, So it's gonna be.

515
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: I heard the Chicago thing and the funny thing that

516
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Speaker 2: I heard the Chicago thing with you and Lebron.

517
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of scenarios, a lot of scenarios.

518
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 3: It was a lot of different I want to hear this.

519
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: How close were we to be in Chicago or somewhere else?

520
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: It was.

521
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Speaker 1: It was a part of the conversation because I think

522
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Speaker 1: what people don't know, if people don't remember, is when

523
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: we went into that summer, the every team did what

524
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Speaker 1: they needed to do to get two star players.

525
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Speaker 4: And that's when all you guys were taking all those

526
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 4: trips and everybody was going to visit like these different

527
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Speaker 4: teams New York and.

528
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Speaker 1: The brook the Brooklyn that's now, the New York Knicks,

529
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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bulls, the Clippers, like all these teams that

530
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Speaker 1: everybody had, that Chris had, that I had, that Omari had,

531
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Speaker 1: that Brian had, they all had had a chance to

532
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Speaker 1: get two star plays. So Chicago looking like, hey, all right,

533
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: now what now? I'm I don't know the truth of

534
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: the of the conversation when I'm not prevoy to, but

535
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: in my mind, I was like, if I'm going to

536
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Speaker 1: go Chicago, it can't be me and Brian. I gotta

537
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 1: be Brian there. They're gonna take him before they take me.

538
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: But it could be me and Chris, or it could

539
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: be me and a boozer or whatever it is. Right,

540
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: it couldn't because I never thought about playing with Lebron.

541
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Speaker 1: It wasn't I didn't think that was possible.

542
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Speaker 3: First of all, I'm shocked when happened you.

543
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Speaker 1: And me both and plus it's my favorite person besides

544
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: Cold like to compete against. I'm not thinking about playing

545
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: with him. I'm you know, I love our matchups. And

546
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: then I got a call and the call was bron

547
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: was on the call. I was on a call, like

548
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: agents want to call. And it was explained to us

549
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: on a call that the Miami Heat quietly had did

550
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: enough so they can get three star players. And that's

551
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Speaker 1: when the game changed and pat and it was quiet. No,

552
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: it was no ESP and no reports.

553
00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: No break.

554
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 4: Everybody else talking about that ship.

555
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: Everybody was talking about this.

556
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: The Heat was quiet, and so we all I was

557
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: thinking two pick two players go to a team. When

558
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: they hit us with that, I was like, so you know,

559
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: you get that little quietness on the phone with Brian,

560
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay.

561
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 3: So what you want to do.

562
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: And so we went from that to like, let's get

563
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: in person, let's have a conversation. We had already knew

564
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: the other player, if it was three, who we would

565
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: like to play with.

566
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: His name was Christopher Box.

567
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: Chris was represented by the same agent, Henry Thomas at

568
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: the time, and so we just kind of like le

569
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: Chris know, like, hey, We're having this meeting, talk about

570
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: some stuff. Let's talk about it. And so we had

571
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: a secret meeting. Secret location may come out in one

572
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: of the documentary somebody that aout, but it was like it.

573
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 3: Was some real fire ship. Nah secret location.

574
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: It was how we did. I mean, you know what,

575
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 1: I got a production company. I may just do a

576
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: movie on just like twenty four hours of the Big Three.

577
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: And now if I show if I if I doing

578
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: to show you how we all met up.

579
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: It was fire.

580
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: It shocked the ship me because I said I was

581
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: in that same free agency that I'm sitting there and

582
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: you know, I'm on the outside looking in, and all

583
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it's like, Okay, d Wade and ce

584
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: B going to Miami.

585
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, ship, that could be.

586
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: So I'm about I'm actually about to sign with the Lakers.

587
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: I was about to sign with the Lakers. It was

588
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 2: like feeling cold. We were calling like blah blah blah, this,

589
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: that and the third and I get a call from

590
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: Bronze Camp. I said what you about to do? And

591
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: I said what you mean? So I was like, You're

592
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 2: going back to Cleveland? Clearly right, clearly? Like man, So

593
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 2: Cleveland's the jam with Cleveland starts calling all the time.

594
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: He goes, no, no, just be patient. Two days you'll

595
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: find out. I said, Oh, he drops out.

596
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 3: Like me and d probably the same way. There ain't

597
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: gonna be no bread.

598
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 4: Over there because I'm sitting there. Once I've seen that,

599
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 4: and then I seen I think you signed before me.

600
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm out this bitch. You know, we

601
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 4: had ain't no way.

602
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: We had a phone call because I told him when

603
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: they called, we called about you. I was like, I

604
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: was like, hey, man, you know we gotta get this number.

605
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, cool, he goes, but now he's gonna

606
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: be no, No, that's his first I called, I have

607
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: to call. I said, that's his first, that's his hometown.

608
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 3: And then they came up and figured it out. I

609
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: think you guys take it less money. They need it.

610
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: They needed spacing, which was a big deal. No, it

611
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 4: was it was that was you were you were card.

612
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: He just said it. He just said, Lebron's first call.

613
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: You was a prior?

614
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: Was was was Mike Miller. Because we needed shooting, right,

615
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: we got me and Brown together. That is no shooting.

616
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: We can make shots. It's no shooting. Chris wasn't a shooter.

617
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 4: At the time, which switched like that.

618
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: Last couple right elbow jumped man.

619
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: I mean he had the fundamentally, like obviously he had

620
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: gained winners and stuff, but we didn't know he was

621
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: gonna take it to the place. But you were the

622
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: first call, and so this is all happening on my side.

623
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: This is all happening in real time. So we already

624
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: knew that we were going to I think we signed

625
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: on July seven, and let's say Lebron was July eighth.

626
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: We already knew these things once well, we had we

627
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: hoped that Lebron was gonna do his thing like.

628
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: He said he was. He went silence.

629
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: He went quiet about three days from July fourth. I

630
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: ain't here from Bron from July fourth when we all

631
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: we all agreed that we were going to do it.

632
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: On July fourth, I remember where I was at. I

633
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: was in South Carolina with my wife. She was shooting

634
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: a movie. I went and hid under something like the

635
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: little beach thing. I don't know why I was hiding.

636
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to hit them and then take the call,

637
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: and that's when we decided on July fourth. But I

638
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: didn't hear from Brian no more until his after his decision,

639
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: So I didn't know it was like I hope, because

640
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: it started it started heating up, and I'm like, man,

641
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: this is tough.

642
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough for him to make that move.

643
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: Like I'm looking at it, I'm like, this is great, man.

644
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 3: And so obviously he ended up doing it.

645
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: But a lot of conversations, man, in the conversation that

646
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: we had as a group was more so Bron leading it,

647
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: talking about what he was looking for, what he was

648
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: looking to do for his career, what he wanted to

649
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: do from the standpoint of what kind of coaches he

650
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of, what kind of organization

651
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: you want to be, like all the things that he

652
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: needed that he's continued to take and go off and

653
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: the rest of his life and do.

654
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: He knew he needed that, and Miami was the place

655
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: it was.

656
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: Once the conversation started about us three, it was just Miami,

657
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: and so we just had a lot of conversations.

658
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: Man.

659
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: I remember when we had about the head coach, and

660
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: Spoke had.

661
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: Just became the head coach like a year or two

662
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: before that, so no one knew Spoke and I remember

663
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: bron asking me in the meeting about like browse. I

664
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: was like, hell no, hell no. Immediately I was like, no,

665
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: you want that, you don't want that, you don't want that.

666
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: I mean, we want a championship with him. And I

667
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: see you see that.

668
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 4: We like spoken man ride the exercise bike for hour

669
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: before the game. When we're gonna do that excise bike

670
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 4: for hour for the game on game day.

671
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got love.

672
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: We all love ral and and you guys were pulling

673
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: that shit off that changed my life killer.

674
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna let you.

675
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 4: Oh no, listen, let me tell you something once again.

676
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: Two things can be true. Obviously I was happy for

677
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 4: the Miami heating the organization with a miain. I thought

678
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: I was out this motherfucker. So now I'm heading down

679
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 4: to the arena, thank you, but no thank you the

680
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: minimum going once again. That shit ain't gonna work for me.

681
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 4: Like I'm twenty eight, twenty nine, I gotta start cashing

682
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 4: in right now. You know what I'm saying. Who knows

683
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: how it goes? Headed down to the arena once again,

684
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 4: shout out Henry Thomas, our agent man, godless it dead.

685
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: The Great Henry Thomas caused me as I'm exiting off

686
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: the expressway. Yeah, I'm headed in to say bye, you know,

687
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 4: thank everybody for everything. Just chill when you get there

688
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 4: for a second. Don't go inside. Might have something, Okay,

689
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: I sit in the car.

690
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: Cool.

691
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 4: I wait in the car for ten minutes, fifteen minutes.

692
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 4: I don't know what he got brewing over there. I

693
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 4: know they working on something, you know what I'm saying,

694
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: But I wait. Now he called me back like twenty

695
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: minutes later.

696
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: All right, go in.

697
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: You can go in and talk to Rose. I think

698
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 4: we got something worked out. So when I get in there,

699
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: you know, they tell me they got what it was

700
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: five years. I think it was about thirty five years,

701
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 4: twenty seven something.

702
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: Forty Someone was off of your forty, Rightallas, Yeah, that was.

703
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 4: Off for forty. That was off me forty and no

704
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 4: state tax, just like Florida. So the money would have

705
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 4: been cool, but nah, not the opportunity to play once again,

706
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 4: it's my brother here. Then we got you with my

707
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 4: brother in college. Then I got the opportunity to play

708
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 4: with one of the greatest, if not the greatest, to

709
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 4: play the game. And then Chris Bosh, this is what

710
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 4: you play for me. But this is why you play.

711
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And this is what has

712
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: fucked me up for the rest of my life because

713
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 4: that man who we just talked about, pat Riley, told

714
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: us that there's mill, there's winning, and there's misery. Ain't

715
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: no in between, And the rest of my life has

716
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: been fucked since he said that. I mean the rest

717
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 4: of my life has been fucked since he said because

718
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 4: I can't do the in between ship and if I'm

719
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 4: losing a miserable this is what these motherfuckers don't understand.

720
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, therapy in between.

721
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen that ship, that ship, yo, listen that that's

722
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 4: how we That's how I live my life, and that's

723
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: how we have lived our life. It's like there, Like

724
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 4: he said, he wanted to know who he could win with.

725
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 4: That's why he was about to leave. He had none

726
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 4: to do it, the heat, had none to do it nothing.

727
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: Who the can I win with? Where can I go

728
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 4: and win a championship?

729
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: And we were doing in those two years before Brian

730
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: got here killed. I was like, Nah, this ain't it

731
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: We're getting But let me give you the other side

732
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: of that call right there with you, d so we uh,

733
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: I get a call from Hank.

734
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 1: This is all happening. At the same time, I get

735
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: a call from Hank Uh Miami, kme at you know

736
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: what you d what do you d wants?

737
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: He's out. I'm like, what you mean? He out?

738
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: He's like he out, he right now headed to the arena.

739
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm like what So I hop on the phone. I

740
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: help on the phone with Bron and CB. We get

741
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: on the phone and I say, hey, fellas, all right,

742
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: we got my well, I know we're talking about Killer cool.

743
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: This don't work without number forty. So this is how

744
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: much money we need?

745
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: I get this.

746
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: And it was no hesitation.

747
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: Chris Brown was like, done, whatever we need because this

748
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: doesn't work without forty. If you d ain't here, I

749
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: told him myself, if you d ain't here, this don't

750
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: feel right for me because I know what we're about

751
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: to do.

752
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: And I don't want to go see my brother in Dallas.

753
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: We're about to go do this and then my brother, Yeah,

754
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to get him

755
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: one of the ice solds and busses ass.

756
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 4: Decisions made.

757
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: We want to get them on the get this step back.

758
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: You got to be good on that one. Get these

759
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: other twenty steps back.

760
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: Here we go.

761
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: Listen, I was definitely flagran, definitely flag fied.

762
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: So it wouldn't work. It just and they knew it.

763
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: I knew it. Everyone knew it. Just didn't feel right.

764
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: But obviously money is money.

765
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: Everybody you know that he only had what they what

766
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: they had because they had three guys who took up

767
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: most of the money. But at that point, Bro, it

768
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: was bigger than basketball. It was more so like understanding

769
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: what we was about to embark on and understand who

770
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: helped build this. And I ain't talking about like the

771
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: Zoels and the Tomatoways and them who did it before us,

772
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: but in our era, we did it. And so what

773
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: we're about to go down, there's no way that this

774
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: works without my brother coming back. And so to their credit,

775
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: they both gave back the money that we can get

776
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: to even get him close enough to what he feel

777
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: comfortable to stay because he still has a family to feed.

778
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: And that forty, that forty looked good over there. He

779
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: already had a ring. He could have been like, nah,

780
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 3: I see y'all in summer.

781
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: I'm glad they worked out.

782
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad to work man.

783
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, bro, I had to

784
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 4: get him their money's worth, you know what I'm saying.

785
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 4: They got a family feed too, so Chris him you

786
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: that's different. But Chris and Braun, they didn't know me

787
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 4: from motherfucker candapaint. You know what I'm saying. They just

788
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: see the motherfucker who spit fire and talk shit on

789
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: the basketball court. They don't know me as a person,

790
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: so to give up money. I had to give him

791
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: their money's worth, man, And I was just what's understood.

792
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: They'd have to be explained, but.

793
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: They understood that. They listen.

794
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: I love bron I love Chris, I even love myself.

795
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 1: We ain't the first one jumping into that battle at

796
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: a fight. We also understood what we needed.

797
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need you D.

798
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: Hey, coach, when you saw the juice in the elevator, Hey, listen, I.

799
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: Don't know what y'all think, and we come to Miami.

800
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: You probably went on the Jewey driving these cars.

801
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: We need you D.

802
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: I don't know none of his works without u, D.

803
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if y'all know that.

804
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: Hey, what thing about it? Two things?

805
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: The show man.

806
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: I always took it personal when it came to taking

807
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 4: care of those boys. When they came to the basketball card,

808
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 4: I felt like I was part of my job. I

809
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 4: didn't give a fuck about taking a fire. Well, fine,

810
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 4: we need these motherfuckers healthy, We need the motherfuckers to play.

811
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: I never understood how when he got mad he played

812
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 4: better some Bruce Lee's and ship be water whatever that

813
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: ship is. When I get mad, when I get mad,

814
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 4: it's all hell break loose. I can't focus, I can't concentrate.

815
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: It's gonna be days.

816
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, But when he get mad, get mad, bus his lip,

817
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: he goes go fifty. You know what I'm saying. Ship

818
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 4: like that, So just make sure I don't know.

819
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: My daddy used to do that to me when I

820
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: was a kid.

821
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 4: That's what he gets.

822
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: He's a beat ass in that backyard.

823
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: Dog, I just get mad, so now that so now

824
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: we know where it comes from my dad. My dad's

825
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: a beat ass man. I ain't talking, you know, like

826
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about foles. Ain't no fouls like.

827
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: I said that mall of face. I wasn't joking.

828
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: So when I got to the league and that's my

829
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: dad all over again. You gonna hit me in my

830
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: mouth like that, You're gonna smile. I can't fight you,

831
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: But I'm about to fight you with this ball because

832
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: one two I know you, and you can't shoot this ball.

833
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: Many times I can't either. When I get mad, I ain't.

834
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't even look the past.

835
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: I just see red. We got that red is that bucket.

836
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: We got a couple of clips where people were clearly open.

837
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 4: We're gonna We're gonna show him. We got a couple

838
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 4: clips with people were clearly open.

839
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: Clearly you know what I mean.

840
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 4: But you had your mind made up to dunk on Verasile.

841
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Mike was clearly open. Mike was open. Mike Beasy.

842
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: That was a different years, not him, not busy on't

843
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: gonna do nothing.

844
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 3: Behold it, grab it, swing it through, take a.

845
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 4: Pull up, the triple threat wide open.

846
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna get in the triple threat wild over,

847
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: get it low. No, No, I'm taking this.

848
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: While we're wasting time. We don't gonna pull that yet.

849
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: I ain't. I ain't there yet. I ain't there yet. Well,

850
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: let's talk about this now. We know how we get

851
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: that happened For the people at home, they have no idea.

852
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: That was a madhouse when I got put together. I mean,

853
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 2: I'm coming from a team where you lay your shoes

854
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: up in October and you don't think you have a

855
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: chance of winning. Going to play in our first preseason

856
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: game and there's three thousand people outside the hotel room.

857
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 4: I don't think we understood. I don't think we understood

858
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: what we're up for.

859
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: I don't think we understood have that parade party.

860
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, we understood championship.

861
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: First of all.

862
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 4: That was out that ship. We're gonna we don't win.

863
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: Championship.

864
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 4: Were gonna run them all, we don't win.

865
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: Let's break that down. It was let's run that tape.

866
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: Who was it again? Tape up? It's one voice? Yeah,

867
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: who was Look at the one in the middle, laughing like,

868
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: oh ship, but the one who already had these surgeries.

869
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: I was like the young boy over here was talking.

870
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: I was like yeah. I was like, and again, and

871
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: we're gonna pull that video, pull that But when I

872
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: mean we believe.

873
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: That one, Yeah, we did believe. We didn't know when

874
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 4: that was coming, said fall.

875
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 3: We stopped that five. He stopped that five? Did he

876
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: go six?

877
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: Seven? He might have coach, We're gonna pull it up,

878
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you that ship I was watching home.

879
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: It was he was feeling the moment? What is it?

880
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 2: Pull us up? Get that volume.

881
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: Look they're geeking us.

882
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: Look he talking? He got here is here is volume?

883
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: Put my head down. Put my head down. I'm like,

884
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 1: hey man, look now, I'm a supportive teammate.

885
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm my ring my knee. I'm like, whoa, I don't

886
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 3: know what we got that?

887
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: I got some nice Hey listen, I ain't gonna lie

888
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: to you, though I should happened. No one knew what

889
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: we were walking into the no idea. You know, you

890
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: guys already want a championsip be on that level were shock.

891
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: Is not one championship Lebron, tell us about that.

892
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 4: Not two, not three, not four, not five, not sick

893
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 4: o ship tripping.

894
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: Look, I ain't saying work.

895
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 4: You might as well put us on America's most morning.

896
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 3: After that, look around, I was like, listen, listen, that

897
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 3: was That's what have been a moment.

898
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: That was just for our fans, and it should not

899
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: have been the world should not have seen that. That's

900
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: something that you say, internal, man, you know what I mean, We're.

901
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: Gonna win every year, but really, you know how hard

902
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: it is to win one year?

903
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: Okay, what kind of times you had so That's why

904
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: I was sitting there like, oh, my man, don't know yet.

905
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: But he did go to the final ten years in

906
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: the road.

907
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: Thought how they actually almost did it?

908
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: That's crazy. He had lied, damn sure got it.

909
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: He just he got ten years in a row.

910
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 4: That ship. We went four years straight.

911
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 3: Listen, we went forward, he went ten. So he was

912
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 3: on something.

913
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: He was on something. Yeah, he had a crystal ball. Yeah.

914
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 4: We just didn't know everybody was gonna hate us.

915
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: No, we ain't know it's gonna turn into a hate

916
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: Uh that bro, he was the weirdest shit ever I know.

917
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: We got we went back to Man, I've never saw hate.

918
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up in the times like well, our

919
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: parents can tell us about the hate that they experienced

920
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: by being black in America. I ain't grow up in

921
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: those times. But I grew up in the times where

922
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: I went back to Cleveland, and I'm gonna tell you

923
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: what I experience of being black people.

924
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: That was crazy, now, ma, you I played in Cleveland.

925
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: Everything was cool when I went back there, But that moment, Dog,

926
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: I never see people who was talking about my mama

927
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: in a way.

928
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen nobody talk about my mama and people.

929
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: I will say that because we all were all kind

930
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: of built for it.

931
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: Anyway.

932
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: Is that run out?

933
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: Ooh?

934
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: That runout?

935
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: Bro?

936
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: If you are if you weren't ready to bump after that,

937
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 3: yeah in the locker room. Yeah.

938
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 2: What I'm saying that more one was more electric. Final

939
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: game I ever played in that crowd was that.

940
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: That's besides the finals, That's the second best performance I've

941
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: ever seen Lebron James and personally.

942
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 3: That I've watched at Boston, at Boston and at Cleveland.

943
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: Because to go back in that environment, in an atmosphere

944
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: with the faces that we got on the elevator at

945
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: the hotel before when we was going to get breakfast

946
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: in the morning and it was people on the elevator

947
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: with fuck Lebron shirts on. It was Lebron and us

948
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: on the elevator. And I'm looking at dude, like, how

949
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: you processing all of this? How forget the game of basketball?

950
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: How are you processing strangers that don't know you? They're

951
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: buying T shirts and they're celebrating, saying f you and

952
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: and and so I'm just watching this man. I've never

953
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: seen a performance like that with this man went out

954
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: that did any other we had forty and the third man,

955
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: did you go out there here forty and the third

956
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: and sit down in the fort It was crazy, and it's.

957
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: Great to hear your perspective on it, because you do

958
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: you touch on those levels this year, right, so you've

959
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: you've lived that close to that level, if not that level,

960
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: what he goes, what he went through with what you're saying,

961
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: not just Cleveland, but even that first year in Miami.

962
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: I mean that you remember that day we was.

963
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 4: Walking I think we was coming from lunch one day

964
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 4: and the fan was like, hey, Lebron and then Broun

965
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 4: looking like fuck you. That shit was crazy. We was

966
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 4: just walking down the street something Hey Bron, and then

967
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 4: Bron looked he was just like fuck you.

968
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: Yea, and oh by the way, oh by the way,

969
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: we go to four the four finals with that team.

970
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: I go to three of them because I got kicked out,

971
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 2: but kill you got what I got kicked out?

972
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: Killer Killer was duct tape I did. Yeah, we was

973
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: holding killing together by some duct then dumbs.

974
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: And toesad Killer was du But y'all did go to

975
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: four finals.

976
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: But it wasn't always sweet at the beginning of that

977
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: for that first year that'd be started that season a

978
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: lot of that ship, So that was hard.

979
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 4: I got hurt. We just we just was not playing

980
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: good to go we were playing Yeah, we were not

981
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: playing good.

982
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: A lot of that runs.

983
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: So that second year was was pretty cool. Yeah, second

984
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: seconde was pretty cure. One was was there's a lot

985
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 2: more misery than actually joy.

986
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 3: Year one was no joy.

987
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 4: We defended like a motherfucker.

988
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: And I know people don't think you're supposed to have

989
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: joy when you you know, they look at us like,

990
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: y'all some kids you want to go to the Musing

991
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: Park get joy, but more so, and that's how we

992
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: all play the game. That's the best version of about

993
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: seve when we played the game with that kind of joy.

994
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: We ain't have it in year one, and we found

995
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: it in year two, and then after that now the

996
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: pressure is on it a whole different way. And so

997
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: those next two years was even it was even harder

998
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: than that than those first two years for me, even

999
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: though the noise quiet down on the hate, but the

1000
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: expectations risen as you're getting older and you got injuried couch.

1001
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: Couch, we lost that motherfuckerate. We lost the finals of Dallas.

1002
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: That first year that was the longest summer. Yeah, it

1003
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: was a lockout. Yes, it's a lockout. I mean, I

1004
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: can't imagine all you do is processing what's going on

1005
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: Coach Riley's head too, like I gotta make some change about.

1006
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: You already know he put that ship together win hey, And.

1007
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: That's why I try to tell all these young kids.

1008
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: They understand it has some self awareness. Y'all ain't doing

1009
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: what you're supposed to do.

1010
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: They're they're talking about you, just like we're talking about

1011
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: them now.

1012
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: I just said earlier, misery, I told everybody, everybody talk

1013
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: about when you make certain decisions, certain moves for yourself,

1014
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: those things are we talk about them, and my guys,

1015
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: those are selfish decisions and it's not selfish in the

1016
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: definition that people like to make selfish.

1017
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: Selfish. Yeah, this is a selfish decision for yourself. And

1018
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: so I made a selfish.

1019
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: Decision for my career and my longevity by saying, all right, Brian,

1020
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 1: your show.

1021
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 3: I figure that's impressible because here's the thing. We losing

1022
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: two in year two.

1023
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: Coach, you know who ain't here, Coach the older superstar

1024
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: of the three, I'm gone.

1025
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: Thank you for your services mister Wade and there's been

1026
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: a body bag with me behind it too.

1027
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, then through the duct tape in the bag.

1028
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: How can we attach Mike this trade, bro, we'd have

1029
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: been a Philly put us somewhere together.

1030
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 4: I'll probably been back in France.

1031
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: Take with Scott State.

1032
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take my Scott.

1033
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: I'm real glad you brought that up because going into

1034
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: Game six at Boston, this is a year after we

1035
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 2: lose that buddy without Chris Bosh by the way, Chris

1036
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: is out.

1037
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're going to wait then Chris come back.

1038
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 4: And Chris came back Boston, he came.

1039
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: Back game crib come back.

1040
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1041
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: I almost positive we'll look at Yeah, we're going to

1042
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: game six.

1043
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 4: So we finished off Indiana.

1044
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: Yes, in all I saw our as just thinking if

1045
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: we don't win this thing, well work on. It's over.

1046
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been. It is over, and it's gonna

1047
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: be like talked about as the biggest freaking disappointment of

1048
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: all time, like they're gonna blow it up. So I mean,

1049
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: like that stuff changed my life. That when that was

1050
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: Game six where bron had forty five seventeen.

1051
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: It was crazy. That's when they tried to that's when

1052
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 4: they tried to put he walked that lot.

1053
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 2: But we look at you, we're gonna be all right.

1054
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 4: Pipe when to get us there a little bit late.

1055
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: They got us there late. The bus. They got us

1056
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: there late. The bus act like it couldn't get up

1057
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: the ramp.

1058
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 4: That god damn it around the corner.

1059
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: Hey that listen, And here's the thing to it.

1060
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: I it's a part of me that really disliked But

1061
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: I love the fact that I had to experience Lebron's

1062
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: greatness up closer personally, because I can't appreciate it as much.

1063
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: We can appreciate Jordan's greatness because we we watched it

1064
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: as kids, as fans, and then we get to continue

1065
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: to see it now and we so we appreciate it

1066
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: and we we go, go, go. But when you actually

1067
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: in the middle of this man's career, we can't appreciate

1068
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: really what his greatness is, truly is until we.

1069
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: Get away from it. Now that we're away from that game.

1070
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 3: Have you ever experienced something like that, that man's energy

1071
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: in that locker room.

1072
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: I knew we was fighting what he ain't say a

1073
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: word word, and I was like, first of I was nervous,

1074
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, he ain't talking, but he looked at me. Bro.

1075
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 3: Every we all got our own side.

1076
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: I remember Bron looking at me.

1077
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: He was sitting there like this. I was over there

1078
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: killing him.

1079
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: He was down. He was like he said.

1080
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: I was like, we're good because going into Boston game

1081
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: six more than like it is over. You don't go

1082
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: in Boston in game six.

1083
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 4: That nobody thought outside of us, nobody thought he was going.

1084
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: A lot of us didn't think.

1085
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: I ain't saying I want I'm just say a lot

1086
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: of them. There was a lot of mother fuckers like

1087
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: playing already calling financials. Listen, so I'm going to Bahamas

1088
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: on now.

1089
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: Get out of here.

1090
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: I knew it was gonna take hell, but I was

1091
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: ready to go through it. Man, that's it. That's all

1092
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: I knew. I knew it was gonna take here, but

1093
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 4: I was ready to go through it. To go through

1094
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 4: that's it. And whatever is on the other head, we're

1095
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 4: gonna live with that. That's it.

1096
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say this, Ode, and I want to

1097
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,959
Speaker 2: make sure we said this. Dude, like I've never seen

1098
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: a person and I'm talking about you now. When the

1099
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: playoffs starts, the level like moments moment. You're the biggest

1100
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: fucking moment guy, I've ever seen.

1101
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: In my life.

1102
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: And I say when people ask me about our Big

1103
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: three team, I've never been more comfortable in a big moment.

1104
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: If I looked and saw you there, and I mean

1105
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: that's sincerely. Like I was like, Ship, we're gonna be

1106
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: all right because it's gonna be a big steal, a

1107
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: big block, a bucket. Like I'm telling you know, I've

1108
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: never seen anything like it. Man, Like I think it's

1109
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: so underappreciated because that team was so good obviously, but

1110
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: every big moment, if I looked at that, bitch, I

1111
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 2: looked over that, Oh yeah, we straight the Chicago game.

1112
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 2: That Chicago game at Chicago in the playoffs in the

1113
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: fourth quarter when y'all put capes on. I think someone

1114
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: actually put a meme of y'all run around the capes.

1115
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: It was the most I've ever seen. They're the number

1116
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: one seed in the East that year. It wasn't like

1117
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: we were playing some cupcakes.

1118
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 4: You and Brown will go for sixteen straight some ship

1119
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 4: like that. Yeah yeah, just take a turn, bro.

1120
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: That was that was the most video game ship.

1121
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: It was crazy because we were it was it looked

1122
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: like it was over, Like we had to float of

1123
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 3: the game.

1124
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 4: None we were down like them games against Chicago wo nasty.

1125
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: Muddied it up enough to stay in the contest and

1126
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: let our fucking dogs go get Yeah, we.

1127
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: Did.

1128
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: We stayed to strike at this And it was a

1129
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: moment in that game where it was kind of like

1130
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: Spoe looked at us like, Hey, this is what we

1131
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: got y'all for.

1132
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: Like it was kind of a moment where he was

1133
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: just kind of like, y'all are the stars.

1134
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: Smartest coaching job.

1135
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: Go be the stars.

1136
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: And it was like, let's go, h Brown, say Jimmy's

1137
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: and Joe's those Give me Jimmy's and Joe's. There ain't

1138
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: no player I can drop right now. Give me my

1139
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: Jimmy's and Joe's got there to work kill.

1140
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying that, because that's why I pride

1141
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: myself on that, you know what I'm saying, Like, I

1142
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: pride myself on always being there in those big moments.

1143
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: And it's not just one way, you know, it's not

1144
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: just making a shot. It's so many different ways to

1145
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: affect the basketball game. And I pride myself since my

1146
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: father taught me how to play the game of basketball

1147
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: on being a guy that can do multiple things for

1148
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: his team. And so if you need me to go

1149
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: get a rebound, coach, all right, I'm gonna just go.

1150
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm gonna You're gonna be boxing boxing out,

1151
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go get this rebound.

1152
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1153
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: And so I pride myself on making sure that my

1154
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: teammates can always count on me even when I'm having

1155
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: a bad game, even when you know it's not my night.

1156
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do something in this game to help us.

1157
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: And so, and I want to make sure that people

1158
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: at home understand, like trying to get you inside the huddles,

1159
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: like in those those fucking playoff games and finals games.

1160
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 2: It's stressful for everybody, right, So when I tell people

1161
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: all the time, like when you get done with a

1162
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: season and the NBA final, like you're more mentally done

1163
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: than physically, And like you said, I was, I was

1164
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: already broken anyways, but literally my mental was worse than

1165
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: my body at the time, which is hard to believe.

1166
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: But just to get you inside the huddle when you

1167
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: got you're in a moment the fourth quarter or whatever,

1168
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 2: you don't about to happen.

1169
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: And I looked out there.

1170
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: Every time we walk out that thing and we break,

1171
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 2: you'd have that look, man, and it's like it was

1172
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: such a comforting thing. Dog, I ain't gonna lie to you, bro.

1173
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 4: It was standing standing over there with his hands on

1174
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: his hips. Gone, He's standing over there and he locked in.

1175
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 4: But listen, this is what I this is what. And

1176
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 4: I don't know if we ever talked about this, but

1177
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 4: just the mental part of okay, understanding that I was

1178
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 4: or I still am, you know, one of the best players,

1179
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 4: but passing it to Lebrons and having to adjust your

1180
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 4: game somewhat. And I don't think people understood that part

1181
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 4: of because we all went through an adjustment with that,

1182
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 4: and I think you probably had to go through the

1183
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 4: biggest adjustment with that. You know what I'm saying. I

1184
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 4: remember those conversations. I am tired of standing in the

1185
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: motherfucker corner what we're doing. I remember, I remember the conversations. So, like,

1186
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, just talk about that adjustment

1187
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 4: because you still need to be your best version in

1188
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 4: order for us to get where we're trying to go.

1189
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: But most players ain't willing to take us change, you

1190
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I never knew what they

1191
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 4: had to be like. I just knew when y'all was out,

1192
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: I was probably gonna get eight to ten.

1193
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: And I was ready as much as much as I

1194
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: love playing, and I wouldn't want this to happen in

1195
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: the playoffs, but the.

1196
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: Regular sad we'd be in a pregame.

1197
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: Make sure you're tune in the sun. So, yeah, what

1198
00:49:59,719 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: was it?

1199
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: Some sports?

1200
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 2: Sports?

1201
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 3: Sports like what I'm.

1202
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: Doing might have been about to get the kid about

1203
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: to show up.

1204
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: Listen, bring and fellings. Guess what the stars all the

1205
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 4: way so the role players must play break let's let's go,

1206
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 4: no bullship.

1207
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: That was fun, though I want the playoffs.

1208
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: It was fun. It was when y'all walking with a

1209
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: little bit of a limp.

1210
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 4: I said, oh man, what listen, he come in with

1211
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 4: shades on killing me my grad ready talking about like

1212
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 4: that didn't.

1213
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 5: Hurt no more.

1214
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 2: It is ready.

1215
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: I come in, coach, I got my granting maches on

1216
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: old lights out.

1217
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: I went back to training rooms and don't give the town.

1218
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: I don't even have them lights out. Let him let

1219
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 3: him rest in the back, right, all right, We're gonna

1220
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 3: We're gonna go anyway to your question.

1221
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 4: Your question, your adjustment to your how did you deal

1222
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 4: with that, not just physically on the court, mentally. Yeah,

1223
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 4: I mean that's the biggest part. How did that ship mentally?

1224
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: You know what you really got to to me personal?

1225
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: You got to kind of be a visionary and I'm not.

1226
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. You have to look past where

1227
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: you are, and so I look here as much as

1228
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: I could, and I knew what was going to be

1229
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: said possible because I know with me making this decision,

1230
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm giving up certain things. And what I'm giving up

1231
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: is I'm giving up arguments right now where a player

1232
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: will say, well he's not that he's not better than

1233
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: this guy because he only got twenty two thousand he

1234
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: ain't got twenty seven thousand points. Well he ain't get

1235
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: I gave up statistical things and I got Yes, I

1236
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: gave up statistical things.

1237
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: And even if you go back and look at all

1238
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 3: these highlights with Lebron, I'm throwing them lobs.

1239
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: On the fast break. I gave up statistical things for

1240
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: the larger picture and the bigger picture because ultimately, man,

1241
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't it's not really about that like you think

1242
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: it is at some point, and the media will cover

1243
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: it like it is. You're scoring your this man, you're

1244
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: judged on winning. You're judged on what you win ultimately,

1245
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: when you want to be mentioned with, when you want

1246
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: to be sitting here celebrating statues and going on to

1247
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and all these things that don't

1248
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: come because you just scored. Some people would experience that

1249
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: because of it was so great at what they did

1250
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: at that level that they still will, but most of

1251
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 1: you won't. So for me, I play a team sport,

1252
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: I had to understand that. You know what we talk

1253
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: about roles all the time. I've been a star player before.

1254
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: I need you to play your role for me to

1255
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: be my best.

1256
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: So here we go. You got to play a role

1257
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 3: now what you're willing to do, sir.

1258
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: So it's really looking in the mirror, and it's like

1259
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people talk and it's easy to be

1260
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: a conductor and tell people what to do until you

1261
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 1: got to actually be a soldier and go do it yourself.

1262
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: And so when it was time for me to be

1263
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: a soldier and do what I had to do to.

1264
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: Let the best player that we in our game play

1265
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: and rock out and we figured out so we can

1266
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: all win. I got out the way to be the

1267
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: best teammate I can be, and I still figured it

1268
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: out in the midst of it.

1269
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: Preach because I'm telling you that's, you know, our biggest

1270
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: word when we were coming there with sacrifice. That's the

1271
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: Miami here thing, right, And I always tell people it's

1272
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 2: an easy word to say, it's a hard thing to do, right, Like,

1273
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: for example, what you're talking about, you did that? What

1274
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: if it does?

1275
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 3: What if we lose Game six in Boston? I'm out right,

1276
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 3: so like you know what I'm saying.

1277
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: But what I tell people, oh, man, you can sacrifice

1278
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: ship if you know what the outcome was gonna be sacrifice.

1279
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: All when easy it sounds like easy sacrifice.

1280
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 2: Duncan like, yeah, okay, that's the easiest sacrifice.

1281
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 3: But that's why I think, to me, I don't let

1282
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: that overlooking. And I know people don't, but that that

1283
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 3: was a massive sacrifice. Man, and everybody.

1284
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: You're probably the top five player in the top three

1285
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: player in the league at the time too, you know

1286
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, it's not no problem.

1287
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 3: You take that probably stud problem.

1288
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 4: That's that's why That's why I asked the question. I

1289
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: asked because motherfucker was me. Now you know what I'm saying.

1290
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: I believe I'm the same way were we might both

1291
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: in fifth picks. We got a little different tattoos again

1292
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: with the fifth pick.

1293
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: Sure, when you said three times, he'd got two jokes

1294
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: off on you three times one more, that's it. Everybody

1295
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: know that you got a three jokes men, three jokes men, Joe.

1296
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 4: Joke, the three joke, three jokes, and after that it's

1297
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 4: personally this has been his whole life.

1298
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: We all know this.

1299
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 4: I refused to be the buddy of your jokes. I

1300
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 4: watched I watched the Wade, the Big Three, the ones

1301
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 4: we talk about that get. I watched them joke the

1302
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 4: ship out of people all day, and I just refuse

1303
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 4: to be that guy. I refuse to be that guy.

1304
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 4: But this is what I will say. The locker room

1305
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 4: is watching you. So you can sit up there and

1306
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 4: we can pre sacrifice, sacrifice. But we all know if

1307
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 4: we can see through the bullshit, If me and Mike

1308
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: watching you and you ain't sacrificing, that sh it ain't

1309
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 4: translating to nobody. You know what I'm saying, And That's

1310
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 4: the biggest part about it is that you are willing

1311
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 4: to do it. So if Dwayne Wade can sacrifice you,

1312
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 4: how the can't you? Donna's has some sacrifice, man, How

1313
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 4: can't Mike know the sacrifice? Joel Anthony, Shane Battier, Lewis,

1314
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. The names and the list

1315
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 4: go on and on, you know what I'm saying. So

1316
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: I think that's the biggest thing about it. Like you said,

1317
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 4: we all talk about sacrifice until it's your turn. Then

1318
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 4: it's a foreign language. You motherfucker you too, you know

1319
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

1320
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: But we watching you like something, you like something you

1321
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: can't understand when you know what I mean, you can't

1322
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: and you just can't be that person.

1323
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: And so I'm not letting y'all do killer. I'm not

1324
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: the only one who made a sacrifice to be here.

1325
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: We all everybody got a story on that team with

1326
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: the sacrifice they made to be on that team, first

1327
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: of all. So this is my role for this team

1328
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: to make sure that we can all sit here talk

1329
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: our ship as old heads because we got them.

1330
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: Things that everybody chasing. So you know, the oldest one

1331
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 3: over here is today.

1332
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: You know that dude, right, can I can we talk

1333
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: about the first time I got a chance to like

1334
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: talk to Killer and like be around Killing.

1335
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 4: Remember you took me to his house and please do motheruck?

1336
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 4: Do you call that a house compound? No?

1337
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: My bad, you bad, My bad. It was he was building.

1338
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 3: It was early.

1339
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 1: It was the early stages of her building his compound.

1340
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: And I'm I've never seen nothing like this. But the

1341
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: kicker was outside of going to see the barn house

1342
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: all the stuff he was building.

1343
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 3: Was the fact that he told us that he ain't

1344
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: had to give his parents no money.

1345
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 4: I still remember that, no, list I still remember that

1346
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 4: ship to this day.

1347
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 3: I would never forget that.

1348
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 4: I had asked Kill, I say, what you mean, you

1349
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 4: don't have to give your mom and daddy no money?

1350
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: I said, what that?

1351
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 2: That don't mean?

1352
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 4: No, I ain't never You're right, I remember that, you

1353
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 4: get that?

1354
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 3: I thought, man, listen, Ever since then, I was like, man,

1355
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 3: this is I don't remember that conversation. You don't because

1356
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 3: it's a part of your life.

1357
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: It just came out.

1358
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 4: He was like, you thought that ship was the norm.

1359
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 4: That ship was not normal, Like mom.

1360
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: And dad, black sisters and cousins and were taking care

1361
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: of Bolo. You're sitting over there with that bad.

1362
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 4: As soon as I hit my daddy was like, yeah, okay,

1363
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 4: you remember all them practices and ship right. Yeah, well

1364
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 4: I'm telling you remember all the practices and ship right.

1365
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I never forget that. I never get that.

1366
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 4: I was like, man, he's living different, different thanough. Listen,

1367
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 4: you should see how he living now. I know you

1368
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 4: just bought another crib. We ain't gonna talk about that.

1369
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about something else real quick.

1370
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 4: That agent money, that's the agent money.

1371
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you. Let's talk about because

1372
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: obviously championships also Lebron leaving, how was that?

1373
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 3: Because I wasn't here when that happened.

1374
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't part of that happened.

1375
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 3: Go ahead, you go first, can go ahead.

1376
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 4: We're gonna were gonna talk about that.

1377
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 3: Anything, anything, anything, Yeah, let's talk about that.

1378
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 4: Talk about that. Ain't talking about Brown no more. We

1379
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 4: love Bron, I love you, nigga, but that's it.

1380
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: That's a big part of our big part of the ship.

1381
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a big part of the show. But

1382
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 4: I got a lot of questions. I want to ask this.

1383
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 4: I ain't had a chance to ask I got a

1384
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 4: lot of questions.

1385
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 3: I want this podcast.

1386
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 4: I got a lot of questions I.

1387
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 3: Want to show everybody tuned into the show.

1388
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: That's right Tuesdays.

1389
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 4: So go ahead and get this last one out about

1390
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 4: bron because I already knew. I already seen him writing

1391
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 4: on the wall. I wasn't surprised.

1392
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: Really, hell no, we can you talk?

1393
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: Were you talking?

1394
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 3: Listen?

1395
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 4: Listen?

1396
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: Man.

1397
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 4: That four years, though very very successful, was very very stressful,

1398
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 4: and I don't think overall, as a unit we were

1399
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 4: prepared mentally to handle it. First two years. Yeah, maybe

1400
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 4: the third year, but the fourth year, the goddamn wheels

1401
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 4: was falling off. It was just hard to keep it together. Yeah,

1402
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 4: it was a lot, bro it was a lot. The

1403
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 4: jokes weren't funny no more.

1404
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, the mental the

1405
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: mental was And Miami don't help. The Miami.

1406
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: You organization do not help because we because they gonna

1407
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: they don't really challenge your mentors.

1408
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: They're gonna take cookies off the plane and fuck up

1409
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 3: your mentor. Yeah, cookies, take the cookies, the cookies off

1410
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 3: the play.

1411
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 4: They took the cookies.

1412
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 3: You know, that's all we got when we come up

1413
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 3: the road trip in Washington. Check that man. I saw

1414
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 3: when when Rods took the cookies off the plane, I

1415
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 3: was like, well, there you go. But to these points.

1416
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: You know, one thing I didn't like about it when

1417
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: bron left. First of all, I don't think it was

1418
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: handled well. And I was surprised about that because and

1419
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: this is a gift that we all got to play

1420
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: together for these four years.

1421
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: Man, that man want to leave.

1422
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: Now, it's some things that got messed up in the

1423
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: process because it wasn't enough communication.

1424
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 3: And I think that's the hard part.

1425
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: That we would all just been able to communicate and

1426
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: sit down and say, Man, it's been a great four years,

1427
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: but do.

1428
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: What's best for you, do his best for you. I'na

1429
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 3: do his best for me. One two, three, Ready break And.

1430
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: So maybe somebody, maybe I wouldn't aft out, or maybe

1431
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: I would have apted out with a different conversation, or

1432
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: maybe this guy would.

1433
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: Have done this. That was the part that sucked.

1434
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: But from the standpoint of people feeling away about him leaving, Man,

1435
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: everybody needed go on with that. Like the man came here,

1436
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: he conquered, he did what he's supposed to do here,

1437
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: and he's continued to go off, and you go, this

1438
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: is a footnote in his career, this four year footnote

1439
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: in his career. So I was a little surprised that

1440
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: everybody like Roles was really in this feelings about it.

1441
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: And I was shocked because me and Rowles got into

1442
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: it and practice about it.

1443
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: One day.

1444
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 4: It was a little dark cloud over us after Brown

1445
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 4: left for a while. It was a little dark cloud

1446
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 4: over us for a while after.

1447
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, cause we want good no more. The dark cloud

1448
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 3: was a ship we got to go back to being

1449
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 3: not good the way you old You can't do it.

1450
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 3: Oh stop that ship now listen, this is real ship.

1451
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 4: The blood clot thing.

1452
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 3: He's went off. The wheels just fell off.

1453
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: So there was a lot of sensitivity around here, and

1454
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: a lot of it was was paying with him and

1455
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: how he left. And I think a lot of it

1456
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: once again, like I said, that's probably how he left.

1457
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: How communication.

1458
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 3: We just seen this movie in Cleveland, like same movie.

1459
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 3: It's it's a.

1460
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: Shorter version, but it's the same movie. And so like man, listen,

1461
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: that man life, that man career. Obviously, that man is

1462
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: gonna do what he want to do. So I didn't

1463
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: look at it like I got out of my feelings

1464
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: with it, and I just I just looked at it like,

1465
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: all right, what you gonna do?

1466
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 3: Like it wasn't about him. It was like we we came.

1467
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: He went to the finals four years in a row,

1468
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: all the members we had forever. It's a blessing when

1469
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: you when we see.

1470
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 3: You in Cleveland and put you in these picking rolls,

1471
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: you worry about it. Come to Cleveland. Hey, make sure.

1472
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: Right the last step back now, listen, make sure the food.

1473
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 3: At the crib, like this is big.

1474
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: The one thing we always talk about is how Lebron

1475
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: get here. You don't get here because he just loved Miami.

1476
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: He got here because of relationships that was built. Those

1477
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: relationships don't end because you leave.

1478
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I was telling Rows. I'm like Rows,

1479
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 3: because I remember that now. I remember that he got

1480
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 3: us sitting on the wall.

1481
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he can we can look up to him

1482
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 4: and yeah, remember that man.

1483
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: Don't be in your feelings now because he coming back

1484
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: and we all we we buddies.

1485
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 4: That's what the reason he is because we buddies and

1486
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 4: we all Actually I remember I said, because I was like, damn,

1487
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 4: you want me to hate the man? I just went

1488
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 4: to I said that you want me to hate the man.

1489
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: Well, the reason I asked that question because one that

1490
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: shocked to show me is when you left.

1491
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it. I never I never in a

1492
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 3: million years, honestly.

1493
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 2: God, if someone had asked me and they said, hey,

1494
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,959
Speaker 2: go bet on draft kings right now four point seven

1495
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: million dollars.

1496
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 3: That that the way is coming back, I bet later

1497
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 3: every time.

1498
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 4: Right now? Man, Remember the call we had. I was

1499
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 4: in Bahamas on vacation and we had that. And that's

1500
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 4: that's what I want to.

1501
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: That last question, because I didn't know if it stemmed

1502
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: from some of that. I want to I want to hear.

1503
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: I want to hear what because I wasn't a part

1504
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 2: of that. But I was so shocked. I was.

1505
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 3: Tough, fucking Wade County. Like I mean, it's like, come on, man,

1506
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 3: like shocking.

1507
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 4: So talk to me, dog, I was tough. Call for

1508
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 4: me to take killing? Was it I better kill to

1509
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 4: call for me to take You said it all right.

1510
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: Like we're still building, We're still rebuilding relationships. A tough moment,

1511
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: but we are rebuilding now.

1512
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 3: Man.

1513
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, We've been through too much. We've been through

1514
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: too much. This is a family, y'all. Got people my

1515
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: family I ain't fucking with right now, but they're my family.

1516
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: We'll get together. So with the heat, I ain't fuck

1517
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: with them. At that time, I didn't like how they

1518
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: handle me, and so I had to go. You know,

1519
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: I got kids, I have people that look up to me,

1520
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: I have I have decisions that I have to make.

1521
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: It's certain things that I have to look at, how

1522
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm being treated, how I'm being respected, and all these things,

1523
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: and I just didn't feel that that was giving back

1524
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: to me at that time of my career.

1525
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 3: I don't care, give me. Give me the rat off

1526
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 3: in the Sunset contract. I deserve it. Mother. That's how

1527
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 3: I was feeling, like, I don't care say whatever y'all

1528
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 3: about my production. I deserve it.

1529
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: So yes, I want it, and I didn't get it,

1530
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: and so I left. And what do I wish that happened?

1531
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: I wish that didn't happen. Yeah, of course, I wish.

1532
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: I would love to be one one team, one team,

1533
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: one voice, one sound. But it was also a blessed

1534
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: in my life because you know what, I got a

1535
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: chance to go to Chicago and not to play just

1536
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: with the Bulls, which was an unbelievable opportunity to dream.

1537
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: I got an opportunity to go be with my agent

1538
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: for his last year his life.

1539
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And I think, you know, part of those conversation,

1540
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 4: fust when when I did get the phone call, was

1541
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 4: speaking on the side of having an opportunity to play

1542
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 4: at home. And I've had that opportunity. I've been blessed

1543
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 4: to do that, and now he's going to have that opportunity.

1544
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 4: Now he's going to have that chance. So more so

1545
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 4: with me focusing on what I'm losing, I'm focusing on

1546
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 4: what he's gaining, you know what I mean. And that

1547
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,439
Speaker 4: was the conversation from a one brother to another brother.

1548
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 4: I needed that, Yeah, I.

1549
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: Needed that year now, the Cleveland portion of it, all right,

1550
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: I still was in my feelings.

1551
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 3: It took me a little while to get out. I

1552
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 3: ain't gonna lie to y'all.

1553
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: I could have came back to Miami after Chicago, but

1554
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: I was like, nah, no, I ain't there yet. But

1555
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: I was hurt, you know what I mean, Like, I

1556
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: think the thing with people don't understand is like we're human.

1557
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 3: Bro oh, Yeah, Like I was hurt. I was heartbroke.

1558
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: Like, you know what you said, Man, I ain't never

1559
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: been heartbroken, no woman ever heart I was heartbroken, and

1560
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: a lot of it was because, you know, I mean,

1561
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: I try to be.

1562
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 3: As graceful as as as empathetic.

1563
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: As all the things I can be for you know,

1564
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: my family, my friends, the organization I try to I

1565
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: thought I did everything. I thought it was a pillar,

1566
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: and I thought that at that time I should have

1567
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: got rewarded for that. Now we sit here on the

1568
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: urge of getting watered to a statue and you say,

1569
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: it's all come back right, the respect and the love

1570
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: is coming back in this moment. But at that time,

1571
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 1: while I ended up leaving, was you know, I was hurt.

1572
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: I was hurt how they was handling me, how they

1573
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: treated me. But we all have been in relationships before,

1574
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: we all were all married. Sometimes you don't fuck with

1575
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: them up and you're married with you like yo, that

1576
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: was a bad year for us, but we still wrote it.

1577
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1578
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, listen and my wife we get made of

1579
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 3: a year team clap. That was hard.

1580
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1581
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: So you have those seasons. You have those seas where

1582
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 3: it's hard.

1583
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: You have those seasons where you don't get together, you

1584
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: don't agree, you can disagree whatever the case may be.

1585
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: And we had that, but we family and I'm always

1586
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to my shit. I'm gonna let them know.

1587
01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: And I don't appreciate like this is just me. I

1588
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm I'm that kid that you d one of the kids.

1589
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: So one of the kids. I'm one of the kids.

1590
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm the one that they like.

1591
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 3: Don't say that. I don't say that because he don't know,

1592
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: you know, like you know, dec on the court, I

1593
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 3: get mad. I know how to perform.

1594
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: I get mad.

1595
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: On the other side, I know how to perform. I'm

1596
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: gonna perform. Yeah, I'm gonna shure y'all. I'm sure y'all mind.

1597
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's the ship that come out on

1598
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 4: the other side. Yeah. On the business side, he goes,

1599
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 4: he's gonna say what you got to say, what's on

1600
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 4: his mind for sure. And if you feel away and

1601
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 4: do what you want to do, whether you agree with

1602
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 4: it or not. This is the way that I've ruined

1603
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 4: love and know, go.

1604
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 3: Do what you want to do.

1605
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: You touched on it, man, Like the statue thing first

1606
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: of all, so well deserved because I don't care who's

1607
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: played on this team or where it's been. Like, when

1608
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: I think of Miami Heat, I think of you. So

1609
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 2: the statue being out there is gonna be dope, bro

1610
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 2: obviously well deserved. So I'm excited for doing that. I'm

1611
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it. Now

1612
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: we got we got past all that. I want to

1613
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: talk about the business man, the Dwayne Wade, the businessman.

1614
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because our conversations now are

1615
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: so different than the conversations when we had.

1616
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 3: When we were twenty tellers. You know what I'm saying.

1617
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 4: The conversations we have now about family, about business, about growth,

1618
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 4: about health, you know what I'm saying, generational wealth. You

1619
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, what's next? You know what I'm saying.

1620
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 4: We don't spend time talking about the.

1621
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 3: Past very much on podcasts podcast when you're.

1622
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 4: Now understanding, you know, the outside, because I think one

1623
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 4: thing we did talk about is some of the stuff

1624
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 4: we learned from the Miami Heat we can't apply in

1625
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 4: the business world of it.

1626
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of it you learn.

1627
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 4: So when you're on the outside and you're in this

1628
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 4: business world now, you talked about you know, feeling like

1629
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 4: you know, you didn't get the respect that you wanted

1630
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 4: at a certain time. On this side, do people see

1631
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 4: you as a businessman or they still see you as

1632
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 4: an athlete? Do you get that respect when you walk

1633
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 4: in the room, Dwayne Wade the businessman or do they

1634
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 4: still see you as the athlete? And you got to

1635
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 4: prove that you're a businessman. You know what, I'm glad

1636
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 4: you asked that question.

1637
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: Because as athletes, we once we get done playing the game,

1638
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: or even when we still play the game but we're

1639
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: doing business, we run away from being an athlete. We

1640
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: always like, don't just look at me as an athlete.

1641
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm more than that, and you are. We all are,

1642
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: and so I don't run away from it no more.

1643
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: I want you to know that I'm an athlete. I

1644
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: want you to know I'm a champion. I want you

1645
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: to know that I had surgery three on my knee

1646
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: one on my show.

1647
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 3: Do you know why?

1648
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: Because I want you to know that I can overcome.

1649
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: I want you to know that I can deal with adversity.

1650
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: I want you to know that I can lead people

1651
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: in situations. I can leave people to championships. I want

1652
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: you to know because that's what I'm bringing to this

1653
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: business team. So please respect me and what I did

1654
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: as a basketball player as an athlete, because I'm bringing

1655
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: all that with me. So God damn right, they know

1656
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm an athlete when I stepped into the building, because

1657
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm coming in letting them know I got three of

1658
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: them things and you don't get them. I ain't want

1659
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: to the end of the bench getting them three things.

1660
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: I was a part of it, and I have orchestra

1661
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: like I can help in any a lot of capacities

1662
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: when they come to business. I've always been versuing, so

1663
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: that versatility come from the game of basketball. I've learned

1664
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: a lot about the game of basketball, and so I've

1665
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: learned how to be versuing outside of the back game

1666
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: of basketball as well. And so walk in the room athletes,

1667
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: walk in every room as an athlete, because what you've accomplished.

1668
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: Everybody dreams to do a lot of people want to

1669
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: be it's only a select few of us. So walking

1670
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: there with your head high, I say, yes, I am

1671
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: an athlete, but this is also what I have. This

1672
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: is also what I bring, and this is what I

1673
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: learned by being an athlete. This is how I'm gonna

1674
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: this is what I'm going to provide to this, right,

1675
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: this is what I'm just you know, so it's for me.

1676
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: Once I just looked at that and I realized that

1677
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm not running away from everything I worked my ass

1678
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 1: off for.

1679
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 3: We worked hard, all of us to be the best

1680
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: athletes possible.

1681
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: And it's a lot of things alone that way that

1682
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 1: we've learned about ourselves, and we learned about life. We

1683
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: learned about people. Apply that to the next phase of

1684
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: your life. And that's what I've done.

1685
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 4: You got to be kind of good at it.

1686
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 3: Boy.

1687
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:56,879
Speaker 4: Well they ain't been that easy.

1688
01:08:58,760 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 3: Sound bite.

1689
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 4: Because I watched a lot of nose. I watched the

1690
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 4: stand socks, and I watched you be a part of that.

1691
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 3: And I don't know about this.

1692
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched. Listen when he first told me to

1693
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 4: shoot company leader, I say, Lee, who, okay, just send

1694
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 4: me up here. I will now fast these things hit

1695
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 4: nice boy, I'll tell you, nice boy, but fast forward

1696
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 4: like the company grew what ten times like, mister Lee,

1697
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 4: niggas like a billionaire from when you started, just to

1698
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 4: grow for the company.

1699
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 3: A lot of girl, a lot of grow. Yeah.

1700
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 4: Man, So the ship you touched, mother fuck you you

1701
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 4: touched first of all.

1702
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: You gotta be to do all these things. Let me

1703
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: let me go all the way back. And this sh

1704
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: isn't it took me an hour to say this. I'm

1705
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: blessed by the man above, sir. We all are blessed

1706
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: by the Man above. And so you know some some

1707
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: things is you got to go through some things that

1708
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: are mistakes or that looks like a mistake on our side,

1709
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: or that's a fair venture or whatever. You have to

1710
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: go through those things, just like we got to go

1711
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: through losses. We got to go through these things so

1712
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: we can understand what winning looks like and what win

1713
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: it feels like by going through that. So I definitely

1714
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 1: failed a lot in business. You know you in business,

1715
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: you know we will definitely feel a lot. But that too,

1716
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: you learn the most to it you applied. As long

1717
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: as you know how to apply what you learn, you

1718
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 1: can be successful. And so I've applied what I've learned

1719
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: through conversations, through relationships, through through actual sport, through adversity,

1720
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: through all these things to try to help myself be

1721
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: successful here as a forty two year old man.

1722
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1723
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: But one thing, bro, you all know this man, when

1724
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: you retire, it's on you. It's on you because them

1725
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: games when I ain't got it, I got hate killer.

1726
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: I needs you hit three of these and then I

1727
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 1: can get it going.

1728
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 3: It's on you. You got to get it. You gotta

1729
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 3: do it. You got to get up every day and

1730
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 3: you got to do it.

1731
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: And so once I realized that nobody was setting alarm

1732
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: for me, Once I realized that when nobody come to

1733
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: set no pick and roll for me to get open.

1734
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: Once I realized it was on me, and then I

1735
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I've been here before. This is a

1736
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 1: familiar area for me. It was on me before the

1737
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: world heard about me. So here we go and I'm

1738
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 1: in that face and I remember having those.

1739
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 4: The conversations I was having with you as I was

1740
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 4: getting close to retirement and just thinking about, you know,

1741
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 4: the transition of what I was gonna do. And that's

1742
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 4: the first thing you told me is get your affairs

1743
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 4: in order. How you some ship lined up, so you

1744
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 4: ain't just waking up in the morning, you know, trying

1745
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 4: to figure out what the fuck is next. Start lining

1746
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 4: that ship up. Now, you know what I'm saying. The

1747
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 4: things that you're interested in, the things that you didn't

1748
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 4: have a chance to do when you were playing that

1749
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 4: you didn't have time for start lining those things up now.

1750
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 4: So once you do retire, you already got a plan

1751
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 4: in emotion, You already got things set up. So I

1752
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 4: think that that really helped me with the transition, because

1753
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 4: we also understand there's a post you know, post athletic

1754
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 4: syndrome that you know when when you ask retired, yeah,

1755
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 4: go and getting depressed and you ain't doing nothing, and

1756
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, you taking a shower in

1757
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 4: the dog because you don't want to see your body

1758
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 4: no more. You're taking a shower at the dog and

1759
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 4: ship because you don't want to see your body though

1760
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 4: the dog and ship because you don't want to see

1761
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 4: your body no more. We all know that side of

1762
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 4: the ship. You know what I'm saying. That's it's real,

1763
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

1764
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 1: So that depression is real, and I think that's the thing.

1765
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: We think we immune to it, and we think we

1766
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: immune the depression, but it sets in for all of us,

1767
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: especially when we ain't doing what we've been so great

1768
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: at our whole life, like you've been great, great great,

1769
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 1: Our whole lives as something in it, it's gone it's gone.

1770
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: I woke up the next day after Brooklyn, after we

1771
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: parreaty made my last game.

1772
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 3: We did it. We did it, didn't we?

1773
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 2: Man.

1774
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 1: I was crying like a baby the next day. I

1775
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: always crying like a baby. I always in a bed crying,

1776
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: bro because it was over. I didn't work my whole

1777
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: life for it. And now I am thirty seven and

1778
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: it is over. I'm talking about it was over for me.

1779
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 1: It one like I was going to the gym the

1780
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 1: next week. It was over, and I'm like, I will

1781
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: never play basketball again, meaningful, like this is my lad.

1782
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 2: I had to say that moment when it was over

1783
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 2: for me. Broh, it's the same thing. It's like it's

1784
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: it all hits because it's like, yo, like what you

1785
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: just said, I'm not gonna play. I'm I'm not doing

1786
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 2: this anymore. And I don't care what I do in life.

1787
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: We're just talking about business. There's nothing in business it's

1788
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 2: ever gonna replicate walking out locker room in a playoff

1789
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: game or a finally, like you're never going to get

1790
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 2: that competition back and you're gonna do whatever you and

1791
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: the more you have self awareness of it to help

1792
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 2: your depression actually it's like, okay, it quit being let's.

1793
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 3: Figure it out.

1794
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 2: But I had the same thing.

1795
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, like oh yo, okay, now what

1796
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 3: it's an awful feeling.

1797
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 4: I don't know that feeling. I played twenty years, so.

1798
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 2: Still you still retire?

1799
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 4: I feel yeah, but I ain't laying the ship I

1800
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 4: was killing twenty years. I didn't want nothing. I didn't

1801
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 4: want nothing to do with it. I was happy if

1802
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 4: I could have sent up a flare and say, come

1803
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 4: get me that pitch up, come get me now. After

1804
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 4: that last game was over, I was done. It was

1805
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 4: the candle I had.

1806
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 3: I had no more once I had left it either.

1807
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 2: But I guess what I was saying is like knowing

1808
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: that you're never going to ever replicate that competition or

1809
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: walk like. People ask me all the time, do you

1810
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 2: miss it? I missed when I walk into a playoff game. Yeah,

1811
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:51,560
Speaker 2: I missed the travel of it.

1812
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1813
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 3: I don't miss the training camps that it's a lot

1814
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 3: not to miss. Yeah, there's a lot not to miss.

1815
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: But I missed.

1816
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 3: I missed the first and fifteenth. Oh I missed. Let

1817
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 3: me see that I miss five four. Yeah, that's what

1818
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 3: I'm saying. You're never getting that back, bro, I ain't

1819
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 3: getting that.

1820
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: I missed. I miss being better than you. I miss

1821
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: telling you I'm better than you. I miss getting that ball,

1822
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: hitting that fight with you, like you can't guard me.

1823
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 3: I missed that. I can't do that in business.

1824
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: I can't call nobody like, yeah, I got you, Yeah,

1825
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: I got fifteen I got fifteen percent of that investment.

1826
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 3: You got team with me, yeah, Like we can't. It's

1827
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 3: not the same.

1828
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't get to talk shit no more. It

1829
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: was awful, Like my kids, my little daughter gonna get it.

1830
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk so much it to my little daughter

1831
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: when we on the court because I can't talk. I

1832
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,560
Speaker 1: can't tell no like to be playing sports and to

1833
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: do it your whole life, and to be out there

1834
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: in competition and for for we haven't been in those

1835
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 1: battles with Boston, with KG and Paul Pierce.

1836
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 3: And them, and it's this and then it's chest bumping.

1837
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 3: People think you're gonna fight. I want to fight. I

1838
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 3: want to almost fight, at least almost fighting. I ain't

1839
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 3: did that alone time.

1840
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 4: You want to fight for real, that's the problem. I

1841
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 4: still want to fight.

1842
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent on the almost fight guys, I'm

1843
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: almost almost I'm talking all the way to the fight.

1844
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 4: Probably don't want to be around if we run in

1845
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 4: any of them names he named, it ain't gonna almost

1846
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 4: be nothing.

1847
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 3: I to make sure. I wanted to say this too. Man.

1848
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 3: It's like I remember, I remember.

1849
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: We remember a lot of things about our career, and

1850
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but we've done

1851
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: a lot of cool things. One of the things that

1852
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: sticks with me is we had a plane ride and

1853
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: you know, not playing rides. We played cards in their

1854
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 1: own world things, but it was this one plane ride

1855
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: was no cars being played, and it was just communication

1856
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: with us and we were talking about finances. Remember I

1857
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: was saying, I was like, killer, I don't know, man.

1858
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: I was like, man, my ex wife kids. He was like,

1859
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: what you just side like we were talking about real

1860
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: That's my That's one of my That's one of my

1861
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 1: key memories when I go back and think about the

1862
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 1: Big three earl that we had was the fact that

1863
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: I was on the team with grown as adults and

1864
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: we could talk about things that was like not not

1865
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 1: on the surface no more, it was like real things

1866
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: because I was opening up. I'm like, man, I don't know, killer,

1867
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: I ain't feeling real good about what my finances right now.

1868
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 3: He was like, what you mean, kill it? Then you

1869
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 3: just signed for one hundred. I'm like, yeah, but I

1870
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 3: got you know.

1871
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: And so I wanted to bring that up, man, because

1872
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: like that right there, Man, that meant more to me

1873
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: than anything was to be able to have to be

1874
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 1: able to go through that moment with a team of

1875
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: grown men, of guys that you can look at and

1876
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: you can learn from. You can say all right, well

1877
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: we'll kind of find out your manage, you got what

1878
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: they doing, what kind of investment you making? You know

1879
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because you don't get to do that

1880
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: every day.

1881
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 4: Yes, And I think now even now as grown men

1882
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 4: in the situation we're in, now, you know, we go

1883
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 4: into the ownership thing in the jazz and you know,

1884
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 4: we don't have to talk about it every day, but

1885
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 4: we still have those conversations about you know, financial and

1886
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 4: what's next and just continuing to grow and continuing to

1887
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 4: inspire one another. So I remember you told me about

1888
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 4: the opportunity for the jazz ownership before it happened. It

1889
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 4: was just the opportunity at that time. And then as

1890
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 4: it manifested and growed into what it is now. You know,

1891
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 4: it's inspired me as you always do. So just talk

1892
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 4: about that a little bit about you know, how you

1893
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 4: were able to get into that situation, and you know,

1894
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 4: you talked about your kids a little bit and you

1895
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 4: touched on it, but I also want to talk about

1896
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 4: you know what that meant for you as a black man,

1897
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 4: and you know what you represent for your kids to

1898
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 4: be able to do something like that.

1899
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's that's huge.

1900
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 4: Well, that's huge.

1901
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 1: I you know, I know a lot of people are

1902
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 1: surprised in the basketball We'll probably not no more because

1903
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: it's been a few years, but at first they were

1904
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: surprised that they wasn't with the heat. Everybody thought I

1905
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: was gonna be right, yeah them to, but also too,

1906
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: I had to separate it, how to separate the relationships.

1907
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: And once I once I was okay with separating relationships

1908
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:36,759
Speaker 1: and not and not feeling like I was old anything

1909
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: or looking for anything from there, you know, I was

1910
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,520
Speaker 1: able to build my to continue to build other relationships.

1911
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: And so in the midst of building other relationships, man,

1912
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, I ran into uh a man who saw

1913
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: value in me. Bryan Smith saw valuing me. And you

1914
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: can look at it all it's easy way you play.

1915
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: It's not about basketball value. Talking about the man. He

1916
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: actually saw me man, he took time to get to

1917
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: know me. He talked to me about things that he

1918
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: saw for me, for my future, for Utah, for their future,

1919
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: and to be to be able to be across from

1920
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: a guy like that that is speaking so much positivity

1921
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: to you, that wants you to go on this journey

1922
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: with him.

1923
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 3: Not just with the Jazz, with the hockey team, with

1924
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 3: the soccer team, all these visions that he had.

1925
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: He had all these visions before I became a partners

1926
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: with him, and now I'm three years later.

1927
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 3: We on five teams.

1928
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: We on four teams in Utah, And so I saw

1929
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: a human being who a man that said across me,

1930
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: that did not know me, but saw the value in

1931
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: what I said and what we bring and all the

1932
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: things that we've done as athletes and what we stand

1933
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: for as human beings. As a man, he saw those

1934
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: values and he wanted me to be a part of

1935
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: what he was doing. And so that for me meant

1936
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: more than anything because of that, And you know, and

1937
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 1: so I made that decision which was probably shocking to everybody,

1938
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: but it was a decision to make sure that I

1939
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: continue to put myself and my family in a position

1940
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, the generational wealth that

1941
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: we talk about. I'm the first one if we got

1942
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 1: a loan process to go down to get the generation

1943
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 1: of us. And so I'm just going to continue to

1944
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: do my part as much as i can to put

1945
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: us in the best situations. And this was one of

1946
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: those opportunities, man, to lead a game of basketball and

1947
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,799
Speaker 1: to still feel like you could still be a part.

1948
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:19,560
Speaker 3: And still winning it.

1949
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,759
Speaker 1: You leave the game like you got best selling jerseys,

1950
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 1: you're selling out arenas, you're doing this and that, and

1951
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 1: then it's just over. Well, I could still benefit from

1952
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: the TV deal. Yes, I can still benefit from all

1953
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: those things because my investment in this league, all the

1954
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: stuff that you did for the league.

1955
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 2: Anticipate in the growth of it.

1956
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 3: Appreciate your right, Appreciate your jazz. I love you guys.

1957
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1958
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, we have to we have to touch on

1959
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 2: some fan questions in a couple of segments of the

1960
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 2: same real quick.

1961
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 3: You don't do that place.

1962
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 2: There's a reason we got one hundred thousand.

1963
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 4: Don't listen, don't that's that bullshit. So this like when

1964
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 4: when these questions came in now, but but but even

1965
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 4: before that, I just want to get into another thing

1966
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 4: that you've also done and that you know I admire

1967
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 4: as well. The father you are the father, you are

1968
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 4: the leader you are of your household.

1969
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 3: Dope.

1970
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 4: That inspires me as well, bro. How you keep everybody together,

1971
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. On holidays, you make sure

1972
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 4: that you get your you get your village together. You

1973
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I don't care if they're out

1974
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 4: of town, you'll go to them sometimes you'll bring the

1975
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 4: family to them. Your leadership not just in business, but

1976
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 4: your leadership over your household. You know what I'm saying.

1977
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's something that you grew up in. Well, no,

1978
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 4: I knew how you grew up.

1979
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: That is not how.

1980
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 4: That's not how you grew up.

1981
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 3: I know how you grew up.

1982
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 4: Motherfucker. That's not how you grew up. But where where?

1983
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 4: Because that inspires me from afar? Bro, Like you know me,

1984
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 4: I sit my ass. I don't fuck with too many,

1985
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 4: but when I see you getting your family together on

1986
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 4: the holidays and ship like that. It inspires me. Get

1987
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 4: your family together, get the people together, because I see

1988
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 4: you do it. But me, I'll sit on the couch,

1989
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 4: roll me a joint and mind my mother fucking business man.

1990
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 3: You ain't rolling.

1991
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 4: First of all, you're right, you rolling right, I ain't rolling,

1992
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 4: But but I will, Bro. But I see you with

1993
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 4: all the shit you do, traveling here on in this,

1994
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 4: doing that, going back here, you make sure that you

1995
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 4: put that time away for the people that matter. How Like,

1996
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 4: how motherfucker, how can you be everywhere and do everything?

1997
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 2: How well?

1998
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: First of all, I appreciate you saying that, Bro, I

1999
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 1: got a lot of great people around me.

2000
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 4: Shout out, my god, do it kyll let you girl.

2001
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 3: And I and I and I started off, and I

2002
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 3: say that because I'm so blessed.

2003
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 2: Man.

2004
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: I know people, we know people who don't have not

2005
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: many good people around them at all. And you see,

2006
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 1: we've seen it throughout the league, and how that that

2007
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: talent of that person couldn't go to that level because

2008
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: of the people around them was not good and was

2009
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: not there for them. I'm blessed to have so many

2010
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 1: people in my life that's here for me and with me.

2011
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 1: And so I do all the things because I got

2012
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: so many people to help me in all these areas,

2013
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 1: and they and they, they are me in their spaces.

2014
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 1: That's how I look at them, their hall of famers,

2015
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: in their areas expertise to help me be able to.

2016
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 3: Do all these things.

2017
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: So first foremost, I'm gonna give credit to my village

2018
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: and our village, because none of this can be done

2019
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: without your village, Bro, Especially, my wife is doing the things.

2020
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: She's doing the things I'm doing. Our village is incredible.

2021
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: Outside of that, man, just understanding that I'm just I'm

2022
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 1: so lucky.

2023
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 2: Bro.

2024
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: I know the history of my family, and I know

2025
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: that my Daddy tell you all the time before you.

2026
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 3: We were just poor.

2027
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: No like our family, the lineage, we were just poor,

2028
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: and no one cared to real now, no one was

2029
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 1: checking for the wads. No, we ain't had nothing. We

2030
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: was nothing in the eyes of society. When you have nothing,

2031
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: when you ain't got your name don't mean nothing. You know,

2032
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: we grow up, we get a chance and now look

2033
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: back and see back in the day you name mean everything.

2034
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: And so if your name ain't standing on nothing, then

2035
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: you ain't standing on nothing.

2036
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 3: And so to be able to.

2037
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: Work and to understand the position that my meant the

2038
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: big guy above gave me to put me in these situations.

2039
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: I don't take it lightly at all, And so I

2040
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: understand the power and making sure that when I do

2041
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: leave this earth, whenever he called for me to come home,

2042
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: that that made that name mean something, because that's how

2043
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 1: you build generational wealth, is that blood line. And so

2044
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that my blood line is

2045
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: so tough that you know that is undeniable. And so

2046
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do all the things.

2047
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 3: Keep looking. I got a lot more things coming, for sure.

2048
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 3: We working, but were working, were working? We don't. We

2049
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 3: work around here every day. It's you know what I mean.

2050
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: Like people see me on a golf course, I'm working.

2051
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm not just out there by the way. Let let's

2052
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: get work done at I'm working. I'm working on my game.

2053
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: You know why, because my game of golf continues to

2054
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 1: put me into spaces and in the pa.

2055
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 3: I've been on planes with people. I'm like, are we

2056
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 3: going to golf? All y'all billionaires?

2057
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 2: Huh?

2058
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: So let me get some game right now, let me listen,

2059
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,560
Speaker 1: let me ask them questions. Golf has put me in

2060
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,839
Speaker 1: moments in places I'm sitting there with with President Obama.

2061
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 1: I was about calling Barack and really disrespect I was

2062
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: sitting there golfing with President Obama and Hawaii from the

2063
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 1: game of golf, so we know what that means. He

2064
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: was talking about my game. I sucked at the time.

2065
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: I need to get better. This is for my business.

2066
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: This is for people to call me and say, hey,

2067
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: d Wade, let's go. So when y'all see me golfing,

2068
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm working on my business. I'm working on myself. By

2069
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: the way, man talk about.

2070
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 3: Rich people golf, rich people go, wealthy people, I'm still

2071
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 3: I'm still trying. It ain't the only thing.

2072
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 4: I'll trying to get that.

2073
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: When they see me doing something, I'm working like. I

2074
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: don't just do stuff like the yachts when we go

2075
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:25,679
Speaker 1: on vacation.

2076
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: No, we chilling, we chilling.

2077
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 3: We ain't working nothing. My brain cells ain't working at

2078
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 3: that time.

2079
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta, I gotta. I gotta balance that out

2080
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 4: because my brain cells don't be working when we be

2081
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 4: out there. Now, I'm liking weed on the Should they

2082
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 4: too much of that, I'll be wrong. It's hell with

2083
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 4: a speaker and all out there boom.

2084
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,600
Speaker 1: But it inspires me to continue to keep doing, to

2085
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: keep uplifting. Like even us, like where we come from,

2086
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 1: our relationship. Now look at us now, Look what we

2087
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:56,560
Speaker 1: can talk about. Look what our family is going to

2088
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,759
Speaker 1: do together. Look what we can do together. We travel

2089
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: the world together, Know what I'm saying. We've been Italy,

2090
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: We've been in Southern Frond, We've been places like Man,

2091
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: we come on, Man, we was at all we thought

2092
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: about was going down to season.

2093
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 3: Man, we thought that was everything.

2094
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 4: Baby, championship corner, Baby right back.

2095
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 2: Ko.

2096
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 1: You look at us, we culture, and a lot of

2097
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: that is you know what I'm saying, It's the work.

2098
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: It's the work you put in man to be able

2099
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: to live this life. And so I love to see

2100
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: my people win. I love to see my people eat.

2101
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,839
Speaker 1: And I always tell people you ever call a restaurant

2102
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 1: fire ass restaurant, You ever get a table for one

2103
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: that's some board. I don't want a table for I

2104
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 1: don't want to eat at the table by myself. I

2105
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: love a last dinner table. I love a table full

2106
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: of everybody eating. And so I'm gonna continue to make

2107
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: sure that I build that table full of everybody eating

2108
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: big time.

2109
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 3: Big time.

2110
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 4: Shout out, GA, shout out flower y'all already know what

2111
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 4: it is.

2112
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 2: You know what it is?

2113
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 3: Later? How tonight?

2114
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:50,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure tonight.

2115
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 3: I have a fire some fan questions real quick, ready

2116
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 3: to the fan questions. Favorite Olympic story, that's gonna be good.

2117
01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 3: Actually that team is dope too.

2118
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: This year you're talking about this year or when I

2119
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: played the Olympics this year when he came out with

2120
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: that played he came out with that peanut ass head.

2121
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 4: He cut all his hell like motherfucking his ball head

2122
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 4: was too shut, two toes lighter than his body.

2123
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck is that?

2124
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 4: He put the semi so on his head?

2125
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 2: What is it?

2126
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 4: He should have turned his head first. My fucking head

2127
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 4: was white.

2128
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 7: It was so much lighter, so much lighter. There was

2129
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 7: so much lighter in his body. Wait till you get

2130
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 7: to the Olympics on prime time to try this ship

2131
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 7: jump everybody else, get the Olympics on prime time.

2132
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 3: Try He don't stick to the three joke maximum. When

2133
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 3: he started talking about you, though.

2134
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,560
Speaker 4: I didn't know he had that rule. I respect him starting.

2135
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 1: Out, people, listen, one thing, I don't I live in

2136
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: a space where people they be taking They take shots

2137
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: to me all the day.

2138
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 4: They be just yea All Bush shooting.

2139
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 3: Listen.

2140
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 4: All Bush decided I'd be sitting at home about the

2141
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 4: five shots. But you don't care. You just speach. And

2142
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 4: I said this before on one I shows it Max

2143
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 4: Crosby or whoever it was. We was in Vegas shooting.

2144
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 4: Oh it was Pat Beall. This man don't give a fuck.

2145
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 4: He whatever, he's gonna do what makes him happy. He's

2146
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 4: gonna make sure he take care of his people. You're

2147
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 4: gonna make sure that people around him are happy. He

2148
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 4: don't focus.

2149
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know how you do that.

2150
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 4: People don't be ready. I be.

2151
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 2: We had let me off the least. I'll be ready

2152
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 2: to give at least.

2153
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 3: I care. But I don't give a fuck. That's a difference,

2154
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 3: big difference, great point. I care. I don't give a

2155
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 3: fun any Keep notes, well, yeah, I keep notes. I hear,

2156
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 3: we all hear everything. Listen. I love to laugh. Please

2157
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 3: give me something to laugh about, and I'm my favorite person.

2158
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: Give me something to laugh about about myself, and also too,

2159
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: I'll be finding out things about myself.

2160
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, I ain't know I was so

2161
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 3: I love it.

2162
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 1: Keep it going, keep the mistake going. Now people don't

2163
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: know what's going on because y'all just keep coming up

2164
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: with all kinds of things. And also to I play

2165
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 1: the game, man, I know how to play the game.

2166
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give y'all something to the game.

2167
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 3: I play the game within the game. I also know

2168
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 3: how to play the game. So man, I don't I

2169
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 3: got so much things, so many things going on with

2170
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 3: my life. Dog like my, my my, from one moment

2171
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 3: to the next, it's not the same thing.

2172
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't deal with the same thing from one conversation

2173
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 1: to the next conversation. So I don't have time to

2174
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: stay here. I'm still going.

2175
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 3: And so when someone say something about me, I look

2176
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 3: at us say, Okay, that's cool. I mean that's that's great,

2177
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 3: and they're right. I'll be like, that's a little truth.

2178
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 3: I'll be like, nah, was he right about the same

2179
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:27,560
Speaker 3: social head man was so light that it was like,

2180
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 3: but man, you know me, you did. I've always been

2181
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 3: that way, man, And I laugh with it, Like even

2182
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 3: when on my team they used to talk talk soon

2183
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 3: stuff about me, about the clothes I used to wear.

2184
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 3: Forget social what y'all talking about. Ain't nothing like a

2185
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 3: locker room. You ain't never been in the locker room. Man.

2186
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: These little comments that y'all say on these podcasts, in

2187
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 1: these comments means nothing to me.

2188
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 3: My teammates have lit me up over the years.

2189
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,759
Speaker 4: Versus guilty, we are brutal guilty locker.

2190
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,640
Speaker 3: Room armor you up for anything because I didn't told

2191
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 3: some people up in the.

2192
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 4: Locker room, so I can't again head again, I didn't.

2193
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:01,759
Speaker 3: Some people up in the locker room, so you cannot

2194
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 3: throw the rocks and hade your hands.

2195
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 1: So it's all good, baby. But when I do say

2196
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: stuff back, please don't get sensitive. Like My thing is this,

2197
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: I don't get sensitive when people say stuff about me

2198
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: like I did at one point, like when I was

2199
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 1: playing and Charles barkling and would say something about me

2200
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: on TNT.

2201
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 3: I took that little person who at times no need

2202
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 3: to do that. But now in my life I'm a

2203
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 3: grown ass, confident adult. Just when I say something back

2204
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 3: to respond back, I just don't want people to get sensitive.

2205
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: If I see you show love, it's all good. If

2206
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: I say I say Ahi, call me on y'all shows too.

2207
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: If y'all gonna talk.

2208
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 3: About me, I don't be getting raisings off me and

2209
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 3: y'all gonna bring me on the show. That's all I

2210
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 3: gotta say with people, Just bring me on.

2211
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 2: It's our favorite story.

2212
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, back to the head story.

2213
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2214
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: I did a redeem I was. I did a Redeem

2215
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 1: Team documentary. I was a part of the production crew

2216
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 1: of that, and we got to tell a lot of stories.

2217
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,560
Speaker 1: And the favorite will always be Kobe. It'd always be

2218
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 1: about Cold Bro And it's really it's just really you

2219
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 1: hear about someone's work, You hear about that that what

2220
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:04,679
Speaker 1: was he called himself? I forget what he called himself,

2221
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: but you hear about that beast, right, you hear about

2222
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:07,560
Speaker 1: that and the beast, that mamba.

2223
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 3: But you don't really know because you he in La

2224
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,560
Speaker 3: and you don't get to see it. We got to

2225
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 3: see it.

2226
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 1: We got to see it, and I was like, oh,

2227
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: he different, right, Like I saw somebody who was different

2228
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 1: like we had. I saw things in him that I

2229
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 1: was like, I have those things. But I also saw

2230
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,560
Speaker 1: a difference, and I was like, this is why he

2231
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: is great as he is. And so my favorite after

2232
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 1: he broke his nose, this was I'm just asking.

2233
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think he broke his nose in All

2234
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 4: Star Game, which nobody I think breaks Nobody knows in

2235
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 4: All Star Game. I'm just saying, I think this was before.

2236
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 4: I think we were cool.

2237
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 1: We were because me and Cold got real cool, and

2238
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: it was really from that competitiveness. We got cool in

2239
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: the Olympics because what, like I said, I will see

2240
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: him in the morning. We talked about on the Redeem team,

2241
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 1: Cold will work out and get up early and do

2242
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: all these things. And I was on the same regimen

2243
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: because I was coming back from my injury and Tim

2244
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:54,600
Speaker 1: Grove wasn't playing those games, and so I was. I

2245
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 1: was in a gym a lot with Cold in the mornings,

2246
01:30:56,960 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 1: and I got a chance to like experience that guy

2247
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: like I went around him. Jay, I've been around Brian,

2248
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: I've been around Cold, and I got a chance to

2249
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: experience these two different beasts in a whole different way.

2250
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 1: And I, man, I appreciate it. I appreciate him so much.

2251
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,600
Speaker 1: So he was my favorite in the Olympics. Man, I

2252
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: was like a magnet anytime I got a chance to

2253
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 1: be around Cold because I'm just soaking it up. And

2254
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite players, you know what, I'm saying, so,

2255
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 1: my favorite Olympic store will always be anything dealing with

2256
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant Man.

2257
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 4: So just so for the people at home, the way

2258
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 4: he say he might almost want to fight, and he

2259
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 4: ain't really want to fight, but he will fuck you up.

2260
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 2: I will I care.

2261
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 1: He don't you at what cob ain't hit it to

2262
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 1: see how Cold was funcking me up in the All

2263
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 1: Stick Game. People don't understand that. We don't ever talk

2264
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: about that side of it. Cod was doing stuff to

2265
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 1: me and.

2266
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 3: I talked him like, cold, bro, stop what you're doing now.

2267
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 1: I didn't try to, like I told him, you don't

2268
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 1: try to break nobody knows, but I did try to

2269
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: file him. I definitely try to file him in All

2270
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 1: Star Game. I was like, I let him go and

2271
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 1: then I hit him and he got me though. He

2272
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: got me back that next game. When I tell you,

2273
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna get me back. That's the

2274
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 1: thing I wouldn't. It wasn't no shock because I heard

2275
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 1: his tone when I called him.

2276
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 3: He was too calm. I was like, yeah, yeah, this

2277
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 3: ain't good. This ain't good. And we had an early

2278
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 3: game in LA. This ain't good. I can't play early games.

2279
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 2: In La.

2280
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: Twelve o'clock o'clock. I look down there at the end.

2281
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to get lose. He got that mask

2282
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 1: on on the full sweat. I said, he about to Shane,

2283
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,560
Speaker 1: you ain't guarding him tonight. Matter of fact, let me

2284
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: tell you a quick story that what did to me.

2285
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 1: So we go to play the Lakers. This is right

2286
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 1: after that, and it's an early game. We're doing to

2287
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 1: walk through in the ballroom and was like, Shane, I

2288
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: want you to start on Kobe.

2289
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 3: So I'm like, cool. I get to kind of warm

2290
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 3: up into the game and then I get on him.

2291
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 3: But I got to get into the game. We get

2292
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 3: there late. The bus get there late because we're in

2293
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 3: traffic battling all the way from Beverly Hills.

2294
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 1: And we get out there, Spoe come out of thirty five.

2295
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm belly guy. I ain't got a chance to go

2296
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: out there and do no warm ups. Spoke come in

2297
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,640
Speaker 1: and say, nah, I thought about it. We're going right

2298
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 1: at them.

2299
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 3: Do you go them? I saying, ah, I'm not prepared.

2300
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 3: I wasn't ready.

2301
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,719
Speaker 1: That's a mental thing, real ship, that's behind the scenes,

2302
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 1: combo nobody. I wasn't ready and I knew he was

2303
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 1: what he was coming with, but I was trying to

2304
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 1: work myself into the game.

2305
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 3: Kobe was ready and so yeah, I will foul you.

2306
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 4: Though, like yeah I will, Like yeah, I will, I'll

2307
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 4: fuck you up.

2308
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 3: Give me this one, not dirty way, just no, you

2309
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 3: hit me, I'm hit you back.

2310
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 2: Who's your NBA.

2311
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore from Arnold DC? My my n B A

2312
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 3: mount Rushmore?

2313
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 2: Is this?

2314
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 3: Is this just my favorite players or me? You know,

2315
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,560
Speaker 3: just just go ahead first of all, and you do

2316
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 3: you will say it on here. What you say on this,

2317
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 3: it's what you like.

2318
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't be calling everybody else. Why do Wade ain't

2319
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 4: add this? And because it ain't your fucking list, it's his,

2320
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 4: that's why.

2321
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 1: Well yeah, man, I got to pick four people, so

2322
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 1: this matters pretty easy. Gonna be Michael Jordan's no no

2323
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 1: no orders because the orders can con change. Let's lead

2324
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 1: orders out. Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron jamesha killo new

2325
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 1: m hmm.

2326
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 3: It was Michael Jordan, Kobe Brown, Lebron James, and and

2327
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 3: Shock keep talking and Ship.

2328
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put stuff in there and take him out.

2329
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: But I want a championship with Hey, hey, g fourteen

2330
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 1: classification baby stuff on your no, but Shack still old

2331
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 1: us Bentley's. Yeah, but we got that chip though we

2332
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 1: did get that. We got a big fellow, did us right?

2333
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 1: He to old us the buildings, but tell.

2334
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 4: Ers told us if we win the chip, he was

2335
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 4: gonna buy his Bentleys.

2336
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 3: But we bought on. We damn sure did we want

2337
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:37,560
Speaker 3: about all. We appreciation big fellow for those off the

2338
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 3: court endorsements, so we can go get that much right.

2339
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 3: What was your locker room vibe back in twenty eleven

2340
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 3: we lost some mask? What was there on his head? Like,

2341
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 3: we're gonna answer that one. That ship was miserable. What

2342
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 3: was the locker room vibe right after we Yeah that

2343
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 3: she was miserable. That ship was awful. Ship. I was

2344
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 3: going into surgery. That ship was off.

2345
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 4: That was the next day, serve. The next day, that

2346
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 4: was I was heading into the hospital patched up.

2347
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.

2348
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 4: It was.

2349
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 3: It was brutal.

2350
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 1: It was bad, y'all know, man, losing especially the team

2351
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 1: we were, and man, we were a show and we

2352
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: didn't expect to lose, like no one expected us to lose.

2353
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 3: And we were in control of it too.

2354
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 2: We talked about this game two in seventeen, but like

2355
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 2: seven point, I ain't gonna watch it and I and

2356
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 2: I never want to be in think negatively. When I

2357
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 2: got in the car with my dad on the way home,

2358
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:29,759
Speaker 2: I said, we just lost the finals.

2359
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something that we went at and changed. Yeah,

2360
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 4: it's a different series.

2361
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 3: Come on, man, we go rum double them Game three, bro.

2362
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 3: I watched that game recently. I don't even hold y'all.

2363
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 3: I was like, how do we lose this? We lose

2364
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 3: that game?

2365
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 1: Different series, man, Yeah, that was I was just driving around.

2366
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 1: I was just driving around all night with no GPS.

2367
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 1: I had a car with no GPS. I was in

2368
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 1: my Ferrari.

2369
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 3: I ain't got no GPS, and I ain't know how

2370
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 3: to get back home. I was still drinking Hennes City.

2371
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 3: I was lost.

2372
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 4: I was still drinking that. I was still I lost

2373
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 4: in black and mall too. I don't know he is

2374
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 4: in the black.

2375
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:05,679
Speaker 3: That's how I spent losing in the finals.

2376
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:08,600
Speaker 4: I listen, I see one of the questions. Was one

2377
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 4: of my favorite Miami heat stories. And I'm gonna tell

2378
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 4: you what. One of my favorite stories is that time

2379
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 4: when Rose and Big Fella got into it, and everybody

2380
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 4: tried to break it up except for you, this motherfucker.

2381
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 4: Everybody over there trying to break it up with d

2382
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 4: Wade on the other side shooting free throw.

2383
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm not getting in there, I said, why they're not fighting?

2384
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 1: First of all, they won't fighting. I went I didn't

2385
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 1: think they was fighting. Plus shock, man, did you see that?

2386
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 1: I saw you trying to get in there. I saw

2387
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 1: a big fellow dragon, three people around the gym.

2388
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 4: The funk out the way.

2389
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 3: I was like, nah, I got a game.

2390
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 4: I got this game.

2391
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 3: I gotta hit these bro.

2392
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 4: Everybody down there trying to break it up. He the

2393
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 4: only one down there by itself. Ship they got going, y'all.

2394
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 3: It was Mayham going on in that gym at that moment.

2395
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 3: It was crazy.

2396
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 4: Right before Sho, he just knocked over the will, knocked

2397
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 4: over all the on the floor. Pack get the funk out.

2398
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 4: Don't ever come back.

2399
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 3: Bro.

2400
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 1: That was crazy though, But I was just like, well,

2401
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: they don't think they're gonna fight. I don't think Sho

2402
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,560
Speaker 1: was gonna hit Pat, so I wasn't really concerned. But

2403
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 1: if you would have, we're gonna were always gonna got

2404
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 1: to pick up get him out. Of there and get

2405
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 1: him to the hospital as soon as possible. He was

2406
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 1: gonna kill That was this close. I love Path for

2407
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 1: standing up to him, but boy, for five seconds and

2408
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: swung we would have to rush into the hospital.

2409
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,320
Speaker 4: Would have been would have been worse than would have

2410
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 4: been worse than j J. In the locker room, you've

2411
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 4: been massive while you've been I saw was on you've

2412
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 4: been messy. Why you never reveal? Young fella? Your fellow

2413
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 4: text me that to day, say he let the part

2414
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,600
Speaker 4: he didn't watch, got tossed around, tell me.

2415
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 2: Who it was?

2416
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Bank Bank. I was like, well, this is

2417
01:37:56,360 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 3: this is over y'all. Good hug, he told bit. Yeah, Hey,

2418
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen it. I was like as a leader,

2419
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, huh.

2420
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 4: When I got downstairs, say, man, that ship they say

2421
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 4: about j J. That shit real.

2422
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 2: I'm a leader.

2423
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 4: No, no, they say, all that ship is real.

2424
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 3: Listen.

2425
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: In the space of leadership, sometimes you gotta lead by hey,

2426
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 1: cut that ship out.

2427
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta lead by hey, y'all gotta deal with this.

2428
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 1: That was my moment where I had to lead by hey,

2429
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 1: y'all got to deal with this because I heard some

2430
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: some words flash that meant that we don't like to hear.

2431
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,639
Speaker 1: And so I went downstairs to monitor though, make sure

2432
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 1: they get out of hand.

2433
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 2: You on my way.

2434
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 1: Before he got down there, it was over. It was

2435
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: bank Bank Bank. The last one was the and I

2436
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 1: saw it and I was just like, because I kind

2437
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 1: of want to go see.

2438
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 3: Like I heard a lot about JJ to, I'm like,

2439
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 3: let me go see what his hands talking about to.

2440
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

2441
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 4: Man, I was like wow, and I said, well, first

2442
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 4: of all, everything they said about JJ.

2443
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 3: Got head.

2444
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 4: Yo, I couldn't have been about what I got down

2445
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 4: of forty five seconds after.

2446
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 1: Y'all, bro, it was quick. When I tell you, it

2447
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 1: was quick. He wasted no time. But I knew it

2448
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. I know it was gonna happening quick.

2449
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 3: But as a leader, I was like, get up and

2450
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 3: nuts hugged, Yeah, yeah, hug all right, we're cool.

2451
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 1: Like no, we're still going out. We guys like, this

2452
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,680
Speaker 1: is man ship that needs to be handled. Y'all handle it.

2453
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 3: He was out of pocket. You're out of pocket. You

2454
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 3: gotta figure that out. Now we move on. We moved on.

2455
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 4: Another question. I think that one of the questions. I

2456
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:38,560
Speaker 4: think one of the questions, was me and you the

2457
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:40,560
Speaker 4: argument a man, you're getting into it. I think it

2458
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 4: was one of the questions you talk about when you

2459
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 4: got mad at me for slapping the shoe at your

2460
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,639
Speaker 4: hand and you had he had broke his finger, hurt

2461
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:50,560
Speaker 4: his finger. So who's the guard Lin Sanding? Was it

2462
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 4: Jeremy Lynn?

2463
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 3: Iterman? No, I want Germany Lan. I think it was.

2464
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 4: He was in Charlotte the Way. He had just broke

2465
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 4: his finger or something. So we're going through a play.

2466
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 4: I'm blessing Jeremy Lynz right, yeah, I'm listening. Fingers broke

2467
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 4: Jeremy Lynn, so we blitzing Jeremy Lynn, trapping him. I

2468
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 4: think he called time out but his shoe came off,

2469
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 4: so he walking to the he walking to get a shoe,

2470
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 4: and d Wade pick it up to give it to him.

2471
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 4: I'm in it, you know me. I'm just fucking crazy.

2472
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 4: I just slapped the way hand and slapped the shoe

2473
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 4: out of his hand, but he already no, I ain't

2474
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:23,560
Speaker 4: forgot to fuck his finger up. He's so mad at me.

2475
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,640
Speaker 3: I wanted to cry. He was so mad at me,

2476
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 3: and you already sitting there like, please, nobody hit my finger.

2477
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 3: These nobody hit my finger.

2478
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 2: No, you see these?

2479
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 1: You see the man he slapped my hands so fast.

2480
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 1: First of all, he made me feel like I was five.

2481
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:42,600
Speaker 2: The first thing.

2482
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 3: First he sunned me. Then after that I was hurt

2483
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 3: at the same time. Man, But how to do both

2484
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:50,720
Speaker 3: me and you get?

2485
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got into it, man, I mean respectfully, but

2486
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 1: we're two leaders on this team, and sometimes we ain't

2487
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 1: gonna see out of eye on something and I'm and

2488
01:40:57,720 --> 01:40:58,679
Speaker 1: I'm I'm stubborn.

2489
01:40:58,880 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 4: Yeah he's very angry.

2490
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah no, but our side of that, we had moments

2491
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 3: where I'm stubboring on this something and you stubboring on something.

2492
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 1: We got to come back later and be like, all right,

2493
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 1: my boy, you're right. I was a little late on that.

2494
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 1: But now it's been moments when heat a battle.

2495
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 4: My we argue the whole time.

2496
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 2: Out of it was just like this.

2497
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 3: The whole time.

2498
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,639
Speaker 1: But once the conversation was over, we went on the court,

2499
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 1: we did what were supposed to do, and then we

2500
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 1: go back lett and be like, yeah, you're right, my boy.

2501
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 3: I was a little late. I was tripping, you know

2502
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 3: what I mean. I was late on that.

2503
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 1: My bad.

2504
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 3: I was supposed have been that quicker.

2505
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 2: Hey, this next thing was about to be brought to

2506
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:35,680
Speaker 2: you by friends and Morgan and Morgan. It's a too

2507
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 2: easy segment, all right. You made it look you made

2508
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 2: it look too easy. A lot to react to this

2509
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 2: fifty five the year you led the league in scoring.

2510
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 3: By the way, I got hit in my mouth. Oh

2511
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:48,719
Speaker 3: oh that's why you got fifty?

2512
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:50,680
Speaker 4: Is that the game where dude Mike could do?

2513
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 2: Wonder?

2514
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 4: Then let you go get sixty?

2515
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 3: This telling I'm getting old, Well that's the game. They

2516
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 3: took me out. I was supposed to do. Get sixty.

2517
01:41:57,920 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 4: Okay, so this is not this game.

2518
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 3: They took you out, took me out, took me out.

2519
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 2: Fifty five.

2520
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 3: I got taken out and it was more time though.

2521
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah it was the game.

2522
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, look bust my little harton and once as his lip.

2523
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 4: See what I'm saying, not bad.

2524
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 2: Bro, that big cat, the banana man, big cat.

2525
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, took me out. Man, I could have had sixty.

2526
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 4: Shout out and I could do. Man, I could do it.

2527
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 4: Was like, man, let him get sixty. That's a milestone

2528
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 4: for a playoff.

2529
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he took me out, but yeah, they bust me

2530
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 1: in my mouth in this game, man, so I just

2531
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 1: had to I think I had like Lefty had.

2532
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 3: This is a game. I think I had like twenty

2533
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 3: seven and the four, like twenty seven and the fourth

2534
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 3: or something like that. Oh shit, Oh this could have

2535
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:42,639
Speaker 3: just been the night I was just hot. I don't remember. Man,

2536
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:43,599
Speaker 3: thanks you guys more.

2537
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 4: But this is the night that This is the night

2538
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:47,600
Speaker 4: they took you out where wanted you to stay in

2539
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 4: and score sixty right yeah?

2540
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 2: Man?

2541
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 3: Look okay, so it's four minutes left this and the third. Okay,

2542
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 3: let's see.

2543
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: I know in the fourth he took me out though,

2544
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 1: and I had I have scored that fifty fifth points.

2545
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 1: So look it's eight minutes left. This I met about

2546
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 1: fifty close right now. This is a pull up, okay,

2547
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 1: I thought that was That was my pull up, Trock.

2548
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean I got the whole bag working, you know,

2549
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 1: the whole Yeah, the whole bag working, your whole career.

2550
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:16,560
Speaker 1: I think that the one thing man. And you know,

2551
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 1: you don't get the chance. You don't want to talk

2552
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:21,560
Speaker 1: about yourself. You want people to talk about you. And

2553
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 1: so my favorite person whoever broke down my game, and

2554
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:26,799
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to break it down, was Carmelo

2555
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 1: Anthony Carmelo on his podcast seven PM.

2556
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 3: He broke down how my game was.

2557
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people when they compare you,

2558
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 1: they compare you in one category, and a lot of

2559
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:40,560
Speaker 1: it is it's how how how fancy it looked what

2560
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 1: you're doing it, how good it look what you're doing it,

2561
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 1: and how many points you put in and nothing else,

2562
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 1: and mellow broke down all the things that I provided.

2563
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 1: Boom right there, it's five minutes though. I got about

2564
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm into the fifties right now. Yeah, we're up thirteen.

2565
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:55,640
Speaker 4: You think I could do? Was more pissed than you.

2566
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, you wanted you to get that sixty, bro,

2567
01:43:58,320 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 3: you know I was gonna keep shooting.

2568
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 4: Do wanted you to get that sixty?

2569
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 2: Well?

2570
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 3: And even that I didn't even get to fifty.

2571
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 2: And by the way, just for the people at the crib,

2572
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 2: scoring fifty five in two thousand and nine, it's like

2573
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 2: she's woring seventy five right now.

2574
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 3: Man.

2575
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:13,600
Speaker 2: I just want everyone to make sure. I want to

2576
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:15,680
Speaker 2: make sure that that's that's out there. You go get

2577
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 2: fifty five in two thousand and nine, brow against it?

2578
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 4: Huh next time when we show this high, Like, don't

2579
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 4: put me on with that big egg glass suit on

2580
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 4: back ship like I was cas getting ready.

2581
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 3: You like some coffee with some creamlin brown them different

2582
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 3: browns you had on.

2583
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 6: Here we go.

2584
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 2: More get it out, give me, give me, give me

2585
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,760
Speaker 2: two more reactions. Man, I want this reaction right here too.

2586
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 1: Kendrick Perkins dunkek and Oklahoma City per nut on TV.

2587
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 3: Per dunked in Oklahoma City.

2588
01:44:57,640 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 1: I think we played un let's say with the nine

2589
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: days before this doctor Oklahoma City and her back, and

2590
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 1: he decided to I was just like a battle rim and.

2591
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 3: He kicked me.

2592
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 2: I remember that.

2593
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 3: Kicked me in the head. I remember that.

2594
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 1: So I was like, I ain't motherfucker. So when I spent,

2595
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 1: I knew it was Kendrick Perkins, and I was like, I'm.

2596
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:23,679
Speaker 3: Going for it. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, don't be sorry.

2597
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 3: You deserve that. Don't kick hi man when he ain't

2598
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 3: got nothing to do with it. Old Jawan Howe with

2599
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 3: the cabbage pad.

2600
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 1: But the night before I was watching the thirty for

2601
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 1: thirty on YEP. I was watching the thirty. We was

2602
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: talking about the lockerroom thirty four of them, the five

2603
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 1: I was on talking about. Yeah, I was looking for

2604
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 1: my moment and I'm like, he go my cabae.

2605
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 2: B Yeah, thirty year one more Morgan Morgan too easy

2606
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 2: right here, let me see this one.

2607
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: Bron tried to dunk on my big man. He tried

2608
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 1: to disrespect my big man. I was like, okay, just

2609
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 1: what you want to do, all right, anything.

2610
01:45:57,080 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 3: You can do, I can do that. MJ was at

2611
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 3: the game, by the way, MJ's first game. Come to

2612
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:07,639
Speaker 3: see me play as a Jordan athlete.

2613
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,679
Speaker 4: So we're gonna rewind that one more time at that show.

2614
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 3: Okay, he said, you signed you up. You send them

2615
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 3: to your help, to the help.

2616
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 4: That's what I'll switch, all right, your big man, Mike

2617
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 4: wide open in that corner.

2618
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. That's what you're looking at. I

2619
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:24,160
Speaker 3: saw red, I saw red, all right, this is what

2620
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 3: youre looking at. I saw number space, an opportunity. Look

2621
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 3: at my man in the back door. That's my favorite

2622
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 3: person on that video is the guy in the back

2623
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 3: with the Marlins jersey or every time I see that clip,

2624
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 3: I love look at it, bro, I love dude right there. Yeah,

2625
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 3: he on that good. MJ was there back then.

2626
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, man, we're gonna get

2627
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 2: some O G advice sponsored.

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Speaker 3: By Boys of the Old Old G's jin cheers. You

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Speaker 3: got all kind of sponsors. Man, Look at y'all. Man, Man, you.

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Speaker 2: Did only fitting you give us the OG advice real

2631
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 2: quick cope, OG advice for today, OG.

2632
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:09,760
Speaker 4: Advice for the day. Man us some good GM coke.

2633
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 3: Keep real ones close it is, he said it. You

2634
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 3: find a real one close.

2635
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 4: You talk about you know, all the things that we

2636
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 4: talked about today, I think you can always go back

2637
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 4: to the fact that, you know, his success and the

2638
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 4: things that he's been able to do has been a

2639
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 4: part of the fact that he's had a good village

2640
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:29,559
Speaker 4: around him. You know what I'm saying. He's had people

2641
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,560
Speaker 4: that have told him when he's been wrong. And you

2642
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:33,639
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, these are people that have supported

2643
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 4: all his dreams and now he's made it clear they

2644
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 4: can't do none of this by itself, you know what

2645
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So keep real ons around you, keep good

2646
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 4: people around you. Man, You're only as good as the

2647
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:42,560
Speaker 4: people around you. Once again, he gave praise to the

2648
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:44,639
Speaker 4: Man above. You know what I'm saying, Stay prayed up man,

2649
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 4: family first, and I think one thing that he's shown that,

2650
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 4: you know, coming from Robbins. You know what I'm saying

2651
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 4: in Chicago, Robins, Illinois is that you can do really

2652
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 4: anything you really want to do if you put your

2653
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:57,639
Speaker 4: mind and your heart and your soul and your energy

2654
01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 4: to it. You know what I'm saying talking about coming

2655
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:01,240
Speaker 4: from Robins and what he was able to do Prop

2656
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 4: forty eight, going to Marquette, getting drafted number five, being

2657
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer, you know what I'm saying, Being

2658
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 4: a champion, being an owner.

2659
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

2660
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 4: Let me need the example that he's setting for not

2661
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 4: just his kids, but kids around the world that come

2662
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 4: from adverse circumstances. Example right here, you have no excuses,

2663
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:19,640
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So keep Ruins around you,

2664
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 4: keep God first man, and do what you gotta do.

2665
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 4: If you want it bad enough, you'll get it. That's right.

2666
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 3: Oh damn, that sounds good.

2667
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 2: Don't coach.

2668
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 3: Listen. The only thing I want to know is for

2669
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:30,719
Speaker 3: my last joke, how are you getting out of that jersey?

2670
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 2: That's it, That's all there. Hey, listen, he drew your

2671
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 2: maxed out there?

2672
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:40,600
Speaker 4: How you getting out? Aw you in this episode and

2673
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 4: get out of that jersey you better not laugh. Snatch

2674
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 4: that ear ring got your yeah? Snatch that it ring

2675
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 4: got your yeah?

2676
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 2: Hey? For real, d Man, appreciate you coming out here.

2677
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 3: Man, listen, I'll watched the podcast, bro, and I appreciate

2678
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 3: the thing.

2679
01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 1: What makes a player feel good is what his peers

2680
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 1: said about him and what his teammate say about them,

2681
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:01,679
Speaker 1: and people that's been in the heat in the battle

2682
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 1: with them.

2683
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 3: Those are the ones who really know you. Everybody on

2684
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:05,680
Speaker 3: the outside right about you and they talk about you.

2685
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 3: But the ones that's been in the battles, they know

2686
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 3: who you are. They know how you respond to how

2687
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 3: you act in moments.

2688
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: And so the things y'all said about me on this podcast,

2689
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 1: the things that people have come in to this podcast

2690
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 1: and said about me, Man, I appreciate this platform.

2691
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 3: So thank you.

2692
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 2: Now. You know, we only mess with the realists here

2693
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 2: on the OG's podcast. And when it comes to Gin,

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01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 2: the Old G is no different. It's not the OG,

2695
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 2: it's the Old G. It's not just smooth and bold,

2696
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Speaker 2: it's black owned and craft with the same authenticity and

2697
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:38,679
Speaker 2: excellence we celebrate on this very show. The GIN goes

2698
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 2: down easy with no burn, no bite, and no bitter taste,

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01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:47,639
Speaker 2: just real authentic flavor. This still nine times, the Old

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Speaker 2: G delivers the smoothest experience. Whether you're just sipping it

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Speaker 2: neat it's on the rocks or with a simple mixer,

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Speaker 2: This gin does not need anything extra, So whether you're

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01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 2: kicking it back after a long day or celebrate those winds,

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01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:05,479
Speaker 2: the Old G is the drink that brings people together.

2705
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 2: Just like the stories we share right here on the

2706
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 2: O G's, It's more than a gen. It represents community

2707
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 2: culture and the OG's who've paid the way. Go grab

2708
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 2: yourself a bottle, sit back and toast it to the

2709
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 2: Old G's in your life, and as always, drink responsible

2710
01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:24,679
Speaker 2: the Old g Jen pour one.

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01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 4: Out, got one more thing before we go, Because this

2712
01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 4: generation be saying some disrespectful shit and it pissed me off.

2713
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 4: The other day I told Bam the other day, I

2714
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:37,640
Speaker 4: say the generation after you, I hate them, No, for real,

2715
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 4: I hate them. This generation said that Chris Bosh is

2716
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 4: closer to Nick Claxton, no disrespect Nick Claston than he

2717
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:48,799
Speaker 4: is the Anthony Davis. Did y'all see that recently on Instagram?

2718
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 3: No, I don't listen to foolishness, can you.

2719
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 4: Just give Classton. This is no disrespect to you at all,

2720
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 4: Claston to tell you, Chris Bosch, can you please want

2721
01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:04,720
Speaker 4: to do give se be his flowers? Did y'all see that?

2722
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 4: Didn't of y'all see that ship that? They said, y'all

2723
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 4: saw that bullshit? Right? Spam sent me that shit. I

2724
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 4: told Bam the generation after yards, I hate him because

2725
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:13,720
Speaker 4: they say shit that makes no sense? Can you just

2726
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:15,960
Speaker 4: give see be his flowers? Before we go? I how

2727
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 4: all that?

2728
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 3: Listen?

2729
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 4: You were great. Bron was great. We had greatness all

2730
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 4: around us, great role players, great coaching, but that motherfucker

2731
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 4: made it all come together in his own way.

2732
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 3: Now, he was special.

2733
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 1: He was special, and that's the reason we wanted to

2734
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 1: play with him because we knew how special he was.

2735
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 3: But his ability, his ability to be able to be the.

2736
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:40,599
Speaker 1: Number one option, two or three options on any given

2737
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 1: night without any complaints none you on himself.

2738
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 3: Word.

2739
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 1: He just sit over there quiet in his locker reading

2740
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 1: the book book with his legs cross reading the book.

2741
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 3: And you don't know what option he gonna be that night.

2742
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:56,680
Speaker 1: And man, bro, our team was great and we want

2743
01:51:56,720 --> 01:52:00,040
Speaker 1: a serious without him, but we all saw all we

2744
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 1: can win a game with all them is serious with

2745
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 1: all him, But we were not winning the championship with

2746
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 1: out Chris Boss. His versatility, Bro, the way that he

2747
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 1: will switch on pick and rolls, the way he can

2748
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 1: guard one through five, the way he could play one

2749
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 1: through five on the other end, Bro, he did it

2750
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 1: all the way.

2751
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 3: We need him to get out and get out in

2752
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 3: transition to clear the lings for us.

2753
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 4: BRO.

2754
01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 1: Whatever we needed from c B, he did. CB is

2755
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 1: in the top He's he in the top five or

2756
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:21,639
Speaker 1: right out of the top five in his position. Yeah,

2757
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 1: I agree, And depending on who's saying, he's either in

2758
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 1: the top five or right on the right, on the

2759
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 1: edge of it in his position to ever.

2760
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 3: Play this game. He's one of the greatest ever doing.

2761
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 2: And I knew I said, was gonna let you go

2762
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 2: about I do you have to ask you about the

2763
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 2: heat right now? Basketball season starting before we let out

2764
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 2: your basketball legends? So what are the heat? Talk about

2765
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 2: the heat season? Where they are right now? That don't

2766
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 2: people want here? What you thinking?

2767
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 4: And after that, talk about your jazz too?

2768
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2769
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 1: Well the jazz is easy. It's rebuilding and continue to

2770
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 1: make moves. I think what everyone's saying, we got Danny

2771
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:51,679
Speaker 1: inge Ryan.

2772
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:55,760
Speaker 3: Like this. You go Danny uh and it's kind of

2773
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 3: what Boston did. What he did in Boston.

2774
01:52:57,680 --> 01:52:59,600
Speaker 1: You know, you take enough chances on the you know,

2775
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 1: you clear out enough space, you take enough chances, you

2776
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 1: get enough of the young core, you maybe.

2777
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 3: Get a Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum.

2778
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 1: Right, you put yourself in a position to get certain

2779
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,640
Speaker 1: draft picks, You put yourself in a position in free agency.

2780
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 3: You keep your start playing like you do all these things.

2781
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:14,720
Speaker 1: And so Utah is doing everything that Utah need to

2782
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 1: do in this reposition and rebranding of the Utah Jazz.

2783
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 1: So everything is going good there from that standpoint. When

2784
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:24,120
Speaker 1: it comes to the heat, man, listen, you're talking about

2785
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:26,679
Speaker 1: we're talking about a group of guys who've had some success,

2786
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:28,719
Speaker 1: by what, going to the finals twice since they've been together.

2787
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 1: And so sometimes you gotta you gotta acquiet the noise,

2788
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 1: because the noise is that they haven't done it. Jimmy

2789
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 1: hasn't done this, Bam havn't went to this. Whatever the

2790
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 1: noise is, it doesn't matter. That team got a chance

2791
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 1: versus any team any given night.

2792
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 3: Every night.

2793
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: So I'm proud of that. I'm proud of pat Riley

2794
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 1: coming in. It's saying, quite all the noise, we gotta

2795
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 1: get to it this year. As a Miami Heat player,

2796
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 1: I'm with it. I'm tied all the noise. I'm taed

2797
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 1: of the noise. I love I love this generation. I

2798
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 1: love what they get to do. But we gave everything

2799
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 1: to this organization, and so I want to see this

2800
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 1: organ I'm jealous. I just watched Kevin Garan, Dad and

2801
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:08,640
Speaker 1: Paul Piers and Ray I walk out there with the

2802
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 1: boss of Celtics smiling, waving.

2803
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 3: I want to do that too.

2804
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 4: I told the same, if you get to the line,

2805
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:16,120
Speaker 4: I'm flying. I called Bam the same.

2806
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 3: I'm jealous.

2807
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 4: Whatever you want to you didn't. I said the same

2808
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 4: ship to Bam. I called him. God, damn it. I'm sick,

2809
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 4: sick to my stomach right now watching this ship. So

2810
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 4: damn let's go. You inherit our rivalry, You inherit this ship.

2811
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 3: Let's go put on that you give coach called me

2812
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 3: in the locker room and give the freegates.

2813
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 1: This is gonna let's fucking go like it's time. Like

2814
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 1: we've been there and we've done it. We've shown the

2815
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 1: success of this organization. All right, let's get back to it.

2816
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 1: They got enough, We got enough, you gotta.

2817
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 3: You got everything you need, and you can always ask

2818
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 3: for more. We can all ask for more. You have enough,

2819
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 3: go get it done. So that's what I want in

2820
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 3: your Bears. We're doing all right right now what you said.

2821
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 4: It was gonna behind.

2822
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 3: Listen. I'm a Bears fan. I can't get excited.

2823
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 4: My man was like, yeah, see, I aint gonna get

2824
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 4: my host up too.

2825
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 3: No now, listen, I mean number one, we had a couple.

2826
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 3: Number one, we had topics before we had but.

2827
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 4: Got a fucking offense. It's crazy.

2828
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 1: Offense is crazy. It looked like a team being built though,

2829
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 1: like they're out there playing for each other. And so

2830
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,240
Speaker 1: as a Bears fan, it's all the Bears fans out there.

2831
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 1: Not too early, long time come, long time coming before

2832
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 1: and two, I know it's early. It looked good, but

2833
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 1: the future you can tell right now where we have

2834
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 1: the position were sitting, Okay, we have something to build.

2835
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 3: From right now to the future. And so shout out

2836
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 3: to our quarterback Cayler Williams.

2837
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 2: He is the real deal.

2838
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 3: And as they continue to put people around him and

2839
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 3: get him the weapons. Yeah, ten to fifteen year run.

2840
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 4: So you think you're gonna be getting uh seeing tickets

2841
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 4: or something.

2842
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 3: Boy, I don't know.

2843
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 4: You gotta see the ticket. Oh wedn't even talk about

2844
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 4: Chicago Sky. Shout out Chicago. Shout out to the Chicago

2845
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 4: Damn boy, your list going and on.

2846
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to Chicago Sky was made being.

2847
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,800
Speaker 4: Made a coaching move, right you're looking for I ain't

2848
01:56:08,840 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 4: make nothing on.

2849
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 3: Avise you but not not not not you the organization. Okay,

2850
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 3: I just want to let me know. Thro me the advisor.

2851
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 4: Throw me in the hat just in case.

2852
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 3: Uh, what's up?

2853
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 4: I see you gotta have I see you got to

2854
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 4: have a rebound? You got a mother dog?

2855
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 2: What's up on the advisory board?

2856
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:33,120
Speaker 3: No more at having my phone. I'm about to give

2857
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 3: some advice. So here goes my coach.

2858
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 4: Listen, I seen one. I seen one interview and she said,

2859
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 4: because I'm a dog. I hit the way to say, hey, listen,

2860
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 4: I like her like I'm adult talking about the rebounds.

2861
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm a dog.

2862
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2863
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Chicago Sky to to that. There's

2864
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 1: been a lot of conversation around the coaching change that

2865
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 1: was made. Shout out to Spoon, one of the greatest

2866
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:56,080
Speaker 1: ever playing the game of basketball. You know, obviously I

2867
01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 1: have a personal relationship with her that I was able

2868
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 1: to build through through phone and through textessuason, through support.

2869
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 1: So nothing, but you know, nothing but great things for her.

2870
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:05,760
Speaker 1: I really I thought she was a perfect coach for

2871
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 1: this team this year. I don't know I would see

2872
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 1: the I know, but don't. I wasn't there to know

2873
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 1: that the final reason. But when you talk about injuries

2874
01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:15,640
Speaker 1: and what she needed in her rookie year, she needed

2875
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:18,800
Speaker 1: coach like Spoon to help her get to this place

2876
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 1: that she's now at. And whoever the next coach has

2877
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 1: come in, they gonna need now to take everything up.

2878
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 1: And so injuries needed this, Chicago needed this, the league

2879
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:28,440
Speaker 1: needed this. You needed this young lady to come in

2880
01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 1: and be that starts she is now. Whoever comes in

2881
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 1: hopefully they can build, you know, find something. I told

2882
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:36,600
Speaker 1: them during the process, the hardest thing you're going to

2883
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 1: go out and find an organization would be a coach.

2884
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 1: It won't be a star player, it won't be a

2885
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 1: player that could shoot to do It's going to be

2886
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 1: a coach. It's hard to find good, great coaches, especially

2887
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 1: that could be there for a long time, right, And

2888
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 1: it's not about the ability to coach. Is the ability

2889
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: to fit into your organization, your style, your your your way,

2890
01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 1: your thoughts, and so it's so many ways to look

2891
01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 1: so hopefully for Chicago, skuy Man. They keep taking steps up,

2892
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 1: but the w n b A is up, and I'm

2893
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 1: just you know, I want thankful to be a fan

2894
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 1: and be a part of it. Man, We appreciate you

2895
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 1: coming in here. Man, a long time coming. I missed

2896
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 1: this ship right here.

2897
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 4: I know. I love you, my brother, my brother love.

2898
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:12,560
Speaker 3: Hey, y'all like and subscribe. Man, we're trying to get

2899
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 3: more plaques out there. Coach, Yes, sir, ye Jesus, We'll

2900
01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 3: look at the White Network too. Hey, that's right, we're this,

2901
01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 3: this is my podcast, the White networks.

2902
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:23,160
Speaker 2: I want to y'all.

2903
01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm getting seal some wine on the White net we

2904
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:27,280
Speaker 1: don't get my offic straight. I get all my stuff

2905
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 1: fixed in the building. Yeah, coming, sit down. I'm thirsty too,

2906
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 1: little wine. Little your wine, drink

2907
01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:37,320
Speaker 2: Go ahead out man, appreciate y'all.