WEBVTT - #528 Packers Unscripted: More draft detail

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everyone, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted Social

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<v Speaker 1>Distancing Style from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford,

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<v Speaker 1>joined as always by the one and only West Hodkowitz.

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<v Speaker 1>We're coming to you from our humble abodes as we

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<v Speaker 1>have for the last several weeks. And West, we're now

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<v Speaker 1>a week a full week essentially after the draft, and

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<v Speaker 1>you and I have been getting to work here a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit on the phones. We're trying to track down,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, college coaches other past connections to the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>draft picks. We've got some stories that are coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on Packers dot com with regards to that. And the

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<v Speaker 1>first one is today, it's already on the website as

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, and it's Boston College running back A. J. Dillon.

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<v Speaker 1>I happened to track down his running backs coach from

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<v Speaker 1>Boston College who's now at Colorado State. His name is

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<v Speaker 1>Brian White, and for Wisconsin Badger fans you would certainly

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<v Speaker 1>recognize White. He is the running best coach and former

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator for the Wisconsin Badgers during the Ron Dane era.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, he wasn't necessarily going to make any comparisons

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<v Speaker 1>between Ron Dane and a J. Dillon, But pretty interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that that the Packers second round pick is was coached

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<v Speaker 1>by the same guy who coached a Heisman Trophy winner. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and this is the guy that again you're not

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<v Speaker 1>making comparisons too, but when you look at the way

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<v Speaker 1>he's built, the way he runs his vertical, his forty uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many things that Ron Dane did well that

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<v Speaker 1>I think you see with a J. Dillon. Now, Dylan

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look to go on above and beyond that here

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<v Speaker 1>at the next level. But it was really enlightening as

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<v Speaker 1>I read this story. Mike listening to White kind of

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<v Speaker 1>recounts some of his favorite tales what stood out to

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<v Speaker 1>him during his career, and he did mention something that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been talking about quite a bit over the last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's you look at this young man two or

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven pounds, six ft all you might have an

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<v Speaker 1>image in your mind of what that looks like, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you see a J. Dillon and it blows it

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<v Speaker 1>out of the freaking water. I mean, this guy he

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<v Speaker 1>even I think he used the word tree trunks. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at his legs and the way that

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<v Speaker 1>he's built in his lower half, an impressive physical specimen

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<v Speaker 1>who at Boston College had a really incredible run and

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<v Speaker 1>now obviously getting the chance to come to Green Bay,

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<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin and hopefully build upon that now is a second

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<v Speaker 1>round draft choice. Yeah, it was really interesting talking to

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<v Speaker 1>White because I asked him not knowing a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>about Dylan's background. Before he got to Boston College, he

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<v Speaker 1>was the top rated player in the state of Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brian White was involved in recruiting him, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting just getting his perspective on how he got

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<v Speaker 1>to know A. J. Dillon. And I asked him just

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<v Speaker 1>about his size, like, well, when he was coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of high school, like what, you know, how big was

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, well, he was actually about two forty two

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<v Speaker 1>or two forty five, Like he was really that size.

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<v Speaker 1>And he told kind of a funny story that during

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<v Speaker 1>the recruiting process, they were giving, uh, the Dylan family

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<v Speaker 1>a tour of Fenway Park in Boston, obviously a great

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<v Speaker 1>sports landmark in in that city. And at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan's younger sister was about five years old, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was getting kind of, you know, tired and cranky, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like kindergarteners might do, and whatnot, and um so, Dylan

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<v Speaker 1>picked her up. She fell asleep in his arms, and

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<v Speaker 1>he carried her around Fenway Park for forty five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>during during the entire tour. So um so, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you need to be a tun and forty pound

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<v Speaker 1>muscularly strong high school kid to carry a kindergartener around

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<v Speaker 1>a major league ballpark for nearly an hour. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta kick out of that story anyway. I encourage

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<v Speaker 1>everybody to, uh check it out. It's it's it's fun

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to the memories of some of these coaches

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<v Speaker 1>who have been involved with these players in their past. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was funny. That was probably one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the story too, because you just imagine what

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<v Speaker 1>that's like for ninety minutes or whatever it is. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care what kind of drills you're doing in the

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<v Speaker 1>weight room to get yourself ready for that. That that

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<v Speaker 1>taxes the muscles. And obviously it was a comfortable enough

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<v Speaker 1>ride that the young lady was able to fall asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah. The other thing too about Dylan in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of what I took away from the story, the

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<v Speaker 1>way that he approaches the game, the way he works

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<v Speaker 1>at it and also how he goes about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not just not just putting on film what he's done,

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<v Speaker 1>but where he wants to grow. I think it's something

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<v Speaker 1>that stands out still. A young guy, guy that did

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<v Speaker 1>leave Boston college year early now getting a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, potentially, you know, really have a huge impact

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<v Speaker 1>now with this Green Bay backfield, it is built for

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<v Speaker 1>him to to make an impact sooner rather than later. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, over the next week or two, West

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<v Speaker 1>and I are going to be posting some stories, follow

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<v Speaker 1>up stories on these draft picks, catching up with some

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<v Speaker 1>of their past connections. A. J. Dillon is on the

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<v Speaker 1>site today, so be sure to check that out. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the other thing I thought we'd get to here

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<v Speaker 1>before the week is out is to take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Packers NFC North foes and what they did

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft, because there's a lot of differences in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the draft capital. These teams had their targets,

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<v Speaker 1>what they went after, how they went about it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll just start with the Minnesota Vikings. Fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>draft picks. West the largest seven round draft class in

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<v Speaker 1>the short history of the seven round draft, and they

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<v Speaker 1>actually could have had even more, but they made some

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<v Speaker 1>trades and got some extra picks for next year. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're actually heading into the one draft with a

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<v Speaker 1>dozen picks already. So uh. But Minnesota, they lost a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys for they traded their number one wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>they lost guys in free agency, other guys for salary

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<v Speaker 1>cap reasons. This was a huge rebuild, retool type of

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<v Speaker 1>draft for the Minnesota Vikings. They have a big, big

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<v Speaker 1>rookie class they do. And I just want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>this quick story. I know there's reveries with Packer fans,

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings fans, NFC North. We are very friendly though with

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<v Speaker 1>our with our colleagues on other NFL team websites. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a good laugh with Kim and Polito who

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<v Speaker 1>used to work with us over at the Packers now

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<v Speaker 1>she's over at the Vikings. Also Lindsay Young, who's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reporters and writers over at the Vikings. Kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in Eric Smith as well, just given them a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of flak last Saturday night on enjoy that

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<v Speaker 1>last third day in all of those draft picks that

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<v Speaker 1>they ended up with, because as you and I well know, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Packers would have had fifteen, we would have

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<v Speaker 1>probably parceled them out a little bit or pushed them together.

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<v Speaker 1>So we didn't write fifteen stories. But there's still fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>draft picks, and that's fifteen human beings that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to account for in your coverage. A lot of information

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<v Speaker 1>to process, for sure. I remember two thousand thirteen when

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers drafted whatever that was twelve guys. That class

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<v Speaker 1>was a nightmare and I ended up, I am, out

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<v Speaker 1>of all the drafts I've covered, that is the least

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<v Speaker 1>proud I've ever been of any coverage I've ever done.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for cripe sakes, I think I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>saying like Micah Hyde was a character concern or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the most ridiculous things that I think I

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<v Speaker 1>could have ever written in my life. But regardless, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when you have thirteen picks. That's a little

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<v Speaker 1>insight into what media is like. But looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>on field aspect of this, the Vikings defense just went

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<v Speaker 1>through a massive overhaul, specifically on the defensive side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. So to get Jeff Gladney at number thirty one,

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<v Speaker 1>the cornerback on the TCU, I mean, these are the

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<v Speaker 1>type of moves they need to make, and certainly when

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<v Speaker 1>you trade a guy of the talent of Stefon Diggs,

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<v Speaker 1>I know there were a lot of Packer fans that

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<v Speaker 1>were upset that they took Justin Jefferson. Listen, folks, the

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings don't get Justin Jefferson if they don't subtract Stefon

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<v Speaker 1>Diggs as just arithmetic of the NFL exactly, they essentially

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<v Speaker 1>swapped the number one receivers they sent, sent their guy

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<v Speaker 1>to Buffalo, and then they drafted a number one receiver

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<v Speaker 1>with that pick that they got from Buffalo. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the way that you know, the cookie crumbles

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes in this league. And then you know, as we're

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland was a guy I was really high on. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Troy dies a good prospect for them in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth round once you got to the sixth round. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't Nate Stanley, I know is from I believe man Nominie, Yes, Manomonie, Wisconsin. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a chance to talk with him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I know his family is incredibly excited about that. But

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that, I don't know anything about the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys, but that the first two rounds, specifically I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a lot of talent there that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to help the Vikings. Yeah, I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty it was pretty simple to as much as we

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<v Speaker 1>thought the Packers draft was somewhat unpredictable, it was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>simple to figure out Minnesota's strategy here. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>drafted Justin Jefferson after they you know, traded Stefon Diggs.

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<v Speaker 1>They've always been for the last several years, they've been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to retool that offensive line. So they spend a

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<v Speaker 1>high pick on a on an offensive tackle in Ezra

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland from Boise State, and then losing three of their

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<v Speaker 1>top four cornerbacks in free agency Trey Wayne, Zavier Rhodes,

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<v Speaker 1>Mackenzie Alexander all gone. So two of Minnesota's top four

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<v Speaker 1>picks in this draftwork cornerbacks. They got gladni from TC.

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<v Speaker 1>You they got Danceler from Mississippi State, So Minnesota has

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<v Speaker 1>some guys there they could potentially be stepping in to

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<v Speaker 1>play right away as rookies and moving on. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit Lions, the top of their draft is very similar

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<v Speaker 1>in that respect because you look at you look at

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<v Speaker 1>taking Jeff okuda Um at number three overall, the top cornerback,

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<v Speaker 1>top defensive back in this draft out of Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they also get DeAndre Swift, the running back from

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia and Julian Okwara and edge rusher from Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>He's now the guy that looks like they'll be pairing

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<v Speaker 1>with Trey Flowers as far as the two guys they

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<v Speaker 1>will have on opposite edges to get after the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are three guys for the Detroit Lions who could

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<v Speaker 1>be stepping in right away to play on Day one

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah, and Jonah Jackson to the guard from

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State, another other guy that could potentially be thrown

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<v Speaker 1>in there. They've been want to play offensive lineman as

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<v Speaker 1>rookies quite often here the last few years. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>another guy. Uh Aqua A great story obviously, Romeo is

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<v Speaker 1>already on the team. Chance for brothers to reunite their

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<v Speaker 1>you love that. Obviously, We'll have to see how it

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<v Speaker 1>plays out for them. Defensively, they had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>work to do. Both of those brothers they went. They

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<v Speaker 1>both went to Notre Dame too right they were. They

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<v Speaker 1>were both for the fighting Irish. But Romeo was what

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<v Speaker 1>a sixth round pick I don't think he was definitely right.

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<v Speaker 1>He was later in the draft for sure. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but but yeah then I mean going with the cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>from Ohiouse State. I saw a stat out there, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>did you notice that too? I think they said he

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<v Speaker 1>was the highest taken, our highest drafted cornerback. Was that

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty five years or something like that too? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the third overall? Um, yeah, that was That's that's going

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<v Speaker 1>back to like the Dion Sanders age. Maybe, And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking to five years ago, if we weren't unscripted,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have done more research and look it up.

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<v Speaker 1>But but that something, folks, I'm sure in the future here,

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<v Speaker 1>as we write about him more and more, we'll have that.

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<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Swift was one of my favorites in this draft.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not end up going as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>first running back selected, like I think some people thought,

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<v Speaker 1>including myself. But still listen, Mike, they've been doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for years. It's been a carousel. They're trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>somebody at that running back position that they can count on.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like at points carry On Johnson was that individual.

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<v Speaker 1>He got hurt, really wasn't able to get that momentum

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<v Speaker 1>back last season. So DeAndre Swift he's the next guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at how many resources that the

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<v Speaker 1>Lions have invested in the first and second round with

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<v Speaker 1>the running backs over the last fifteen twenty years. It

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<v Speaker 1>has been extraordinary in this path through. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess in some regards say still replaced Barry Sanders. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the last time that they've had a running back,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe uh yeah, I'm trying to think the

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<v Speaker 1>last time they've had a running back just back to

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<v Speaker 1>back back, you know, consistent year after year. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the guy. They've been battling that for a

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<v Speaker 1>number of years, and they hope that, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>finally this carousel ends on the Georgia running back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they keep trying to they keep trying to find that

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<v Speaker 1>feature back, and they keep trying different guys. Sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's been injuries. Sometimes it's been more of that

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<v Speaker 1>that flash in the pan type of thing that then

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work out for the long term. So um

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit keeps, uh keeps trying to find that a steady,

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<v Speaker 1>consistent running game to put behind Matthew Stafford. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was interesting because there was so much talk about

0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.400
<v Speaker 1>the Lions possibly trading back from the number three overall

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<v Speaker 1>spot that they were they were going to try to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get a king's ransom, so to speak, for

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<v Speaker 1>that pick when everybody knew Joe Burrow was going number one,

0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Chase Young was going number two, so then you have

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<v Speaker 1>your pick of everybody else, anybody else starting at number three.

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<v Speaker 1>But it sounds like they just they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>give the number three pick away just to get some

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<v Speaker 1>extra picks. It sounds like they just never really got

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<v Speaker 1>an offer that was very interesting to them. Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>probably hurt the Lions here is to uh in the

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<v Speaker 1>hip injury. You think if he's healthy, there would have

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<v Speaker 1>been a team that would have potentially moved up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Heck it might have even been the Dolphins for all

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<v Speaker 1>we know. Yeah. Absolutely, But the thing is is with

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<v Speaker 1>all those question marks and with not having the typical

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<v Speaker 1>metal medical checks. There were some medical checks they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to do, but not having your your full resources,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big investment teams have to make to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to move up that spot. So they stick with

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<v Speaker 1>where they are. What an interesting day this is though,

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<v Speaker 1>with Akuda coming in now there and then gladly with

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings. For so many years, it was all about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Xavier Rhodes and you know and Darius Slay

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<v Speaker 1>and those were the guys every year, Mike, when the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers would play the Lions and the Vikings. We do

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<v Speaker 1>our little scouting reports, we do our little previews on unscripted.

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<v Speaker 1>We're always talking about them. We're talking about the matchup

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<v Speaker 1>with Jordy Nelson and Davante Adams and occasionally Randall Cobb.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a new day and seeing how both of those defenses,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions coming from a place where they need to

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<v Speaker 1>improve and the Vikings looking to maintain, that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a big question mark for both of those squads going

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<v Speaker 1>into Yeah. Well, the team in the NFC North that

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<v Speaker 1>had the least draft cap a heading any of the

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<v Speaker 1>heading into this was the Chicago Bears. They were short

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<v Speaker 1>on picks. They were still essentially paying for Khalil Mack

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<v Speaker 1>because of the trade of the first round pick that

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<v Speaker 1>was included in the mac deal with Oakland, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they were also down a um a pick i believe

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<v Speaker 1>from the third round round for the for the David

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<v Speaker 1>Montgomery pick from last year when they when they got

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<v Speaker 1>him to add to their backfield. We know, the big

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<v Speaker 1>story in Chicago from now until whenever the season starts

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<v Speaker 1>is what's going to happen at quarterback. They brought in

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Foles. It's gonna be Nick Foles against Mitchell Travisky

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. But boy, if there's one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>head coach Matt Naggi is trying to figure out with

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<v Speaker 1>his offense, it's he wants tight ends. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>build a lot of his offense there. They signed Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Graham as a free as a free agent after the

0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Packers released him, and then their first draft pick in

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<v Speaker 1>the second round, they used on Cole Commet, who was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much considered the top tight end in this draft

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<v Speaker 1>out of Notre Dame. And I think I saw that

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears have something like nine or ten tight ends

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<v Speaker 1>on their roster right now, so they're they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>sort that out. But other than quarterback, their two biggest

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<v Speaker 1>offseason moves are trying to rebuild that tight end position. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's be honest here, Mike about something. The way

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<v Speaker 1>that the Chicago Bears have worked. You go back a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago when when Mitchell Robinski. Everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>so high on him and they thought that the ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>was there. They thought they saw the glimpses in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eighteen. A lot of it had to do

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<v Speaker 1>with Trey Burton in the production that they got from

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<v Speaker 1>the tight end position in the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>They did not have that outlet last year for one

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<v Speaker 1>reason or another. Adam Sheheen has not really worked out

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<v Speaker 1>for them. The big tight end that they got from

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<v Speaker 1>Ashland that they spent a second round draft pick on

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<v Speaker 1>a few years ago, that's Uncourt. He's been a bus

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<v Speaker 1>to this point. So you have the big injury there

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<v Speaker 1>with Burton that took away a massive weapon. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what his prognosis is going to be. They obviously

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<v Speaker 1>released him and we'll see where he falls now. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's working through that hip injury, still trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get cleared from that. So they go and get Jimmy Graham.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine first step tight end. Whatever Packer fans think, there

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<v Speaker 1>aren't a whole lot of them out there in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of dynamic playmakers at that position. Cole commit, as you said, unanimously,

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<v Speaker 1>the top tight end of this draft. If we need

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<v Speaker 1>any further evidence of that look at how far Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Troutman ended up falling. This is the guy. Commit was

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, great size for the position, six ft six

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<v Speaker 1>two and sixty pounds, a two sport college athlete, and

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<v Speaker 1>from all intents and purposes, where while there is a

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<v Speaker 1>transition to be had there for tight ends moving into

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League, his transition should be relatively seamless.

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<v Speaker 1>It appears. I mean, he has an NFL bill to

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<v Speaker 1>begin with. He's a solid pass catcher, he can make

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<v Speaker 1>plays on fifty fifty balls, and he's a good enough

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the blocking that I think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have something to work with their in terms of fundamentals.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is it, Mike. This is the year that

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, like the Bears, if they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything, if they're going to be the team that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody thought they were going to be a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>they need to of it this season. Yes, they'll be

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<v Speaker 1>getting some more draft capital coming up here in the

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<v Speaker 1>next few seasons, but let's be honest, my what happened

0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.800
<v Speaker 1>last year shouldn't have happened. They were expected to be

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<v Speaker 1>a powerhouse, not only in the NFC North, but in

0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:16.240
<v Speaker 1>the entire conference, and it didn't happen. There's questions at cornerback,

0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.879
<v Speaker 1>there's questions that receiver, there's questions at tight end, and

0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.560
<v Speaker 1>obviously the Mitchell Troubinsky question. So many things that they

0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.200
<v Speaker 1>have to answer between now at the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season. Yeah, and they seem to be also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>searching the availability right now to add some speed onto

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<v Speaker 1>the field and with it. Just within the last few days,

0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:37.560
<v Speaker 1>they've signed Trevor Davis, the former wide receiver for the Packers,

0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.480
<v Speaker 1>and they've signed the the veteran Ted Bean Jr. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they no longer have Taylor Gabriel, they let

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<v Speaker 1>him go. You know, they're they're they're trying. They're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to piece it together and and get Matt Naggy the

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<v Speaker 1>the offense, the style, the types of players that he wants,

0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.600
<v Speaker 1>but they still haven't quite figured it out at quarterback yet.

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<v Speaker 1>This whole, this whole fulls Trubisky thing is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the story of the off season in Chicago. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what it's gonna look like. I really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what their offense is gonna look like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what their season is gonna look like.

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<v Speaker 1>You could ask me every year, you know, how do

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<v Speaker 1>I think the division is gonna play out? Not that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm some kind of soothsayer, far from it, but usually

0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:16.879
<v Speaker 1>you have a relative idea of how these things are

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<v Speaker 1>going to play out, what the division is gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>like in December, the Bears could be anywhere. Honestly, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure because you know, the Vic Fangio defense, it

0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.480
<v Speaker 1>still was pretty darn good under Chuck Pagano last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, you subtracted Prince and Mukamara others. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so many things that are going to change their ha ha.

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton dis moved on again, so we'll see. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was I was gonna say to Just like the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>other NFC North foes, the Bears took a top pick

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<v Speaker 1>at cornerback because they had an additional second round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>They took Jalen Johnson, the cornerback out of Utah. As

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<v Speaker 1>you said, Prince and Mukamara is gone, so they needed

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<v Speaker 1>a replacement there. The defensive backfields across the NFC north

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<v Speaker 1>West gonna look really really different in compared to even

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<v Speaker 1>just last year or the year before. As you said

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of minutes ago, it's a New Day in

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.600
<v Speaker 1>that regard in this division for the Packers and what

0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers is going to be looking at across the

0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.359
<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage. Yeah. And if you wanted to know

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<v Speaker 1>what people still think of Aaron Rodgers the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>assets and capital that has been put into the cornerback

0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:21.240
<v Speaker 1>position by the other three NFC North teams, it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still a big, big, big emphasis. Yeah, no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Well, with that, we will call it a

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<v Speaker 1>wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>follow all of our coverage of the team and all

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<v Speaker 1>of these draft pick follow up stories I was talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Those will beyond packers dot Com in the coming days

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<v Speaker 1>and weeks. Enjoy your weekend everybody. For west I Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>take care and we will see you next time.