WEBVTT - Pac-12 South and Mountain West (West) Previews

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal.

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<v Speaker 2>Ill for me, I'm a man, I'm forty.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be happy?

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<v Speaker 1>For Dake Edith state is that whoo whoom?

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<v Speaker 2>And now then and tie, Welcome back to the solid

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<v Speaker 2>verbal Boys and girls. My name is Ty hilden Brandt,

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<v Speaker 2>joining me as always and actually actually seated directly to

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<v Speaker 2>my left. Yeah, the man the Nith, Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Life is good? You came all the way to my apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in Brooklyn right now to record because we're double recording,

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<v Speaker 1>so by the time you listen to this, the other

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<v Speaker 1>episode where we are recording is going to be up

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<v Speaker 1>or we'll be up soon.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that's R.

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<v Speaker 1>Charley. Yeah, we're recording in New York. One because we

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<v Speaker 1>like each other, we like hanging out, we're pals. And

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<v Speaker 1>two we're recording our nineties Internet and Computers completely in

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand percent off topic show with Bill Barr. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right after we record this, That's right. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>knocking at least two shows out in one one sitting

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<v Speaker 1>and life is good. We're doing Pack twelve South Pack

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<v Speaker 1>twelve Seuth and the Mountain West West. I believe I

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<v Speaker 1>do like that there's a west in Mountain that's that's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like you're It's not quite legends and leaders fun,

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<v Speaker 2>it's in the same vein.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, I'm excited to get out to the West Coast.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of Packed twelve South thoughts. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a division that has gone through some changes recently,

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<v Speaker 1>both for the better and for the more comical and mysterious.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm I'm happy. I'm getting a little hungry. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna eat it soon, getting to be that time of day,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm ready. I have a lot of thoughts. I

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<v Speaker 1>this was my initial thought because I like to think

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<v Speaker 1>about the divisions. We talked about Fatlantic, We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the Southeastern Conference East in terms of the missing Olsen twins,

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<v Speaker 1>not missing, but other Olsen twin. I I in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to think about what the PAC twelve

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<v Speaker 1>South represents to me, and I was just cycling through

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Tyson's punch out opponents because there is that clear hierarchy.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure of Mike Tyson was a use aka mister dream.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say if the game didn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>license for him, but there's a path to beat mister

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<v Speaker 1>dream slash Mike Tyson. And so I could only get

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<v Speaker 1>as far as saying, I think Khalil Tait is don

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<v Speaker 1>Flamenco don Flamenco. Yeah, just that one huge uppercut. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what else Arizona has that scares me, but

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<v Speaker 1>that uppercut is quite the upper.

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<v Speaker 2>With their defense being King Hippo, I'm assuming, yes, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going the defense is King the pants fall down.

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<v Speaker 1>If you wanted to talk me into Khlil Tap being

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<v Speaker 1>Great Tiger with that like that quick disappearing act kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, the morphin around that, I that I could

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<v Speaker 1>be on board with.

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<v Speaker 2>The disappearing act was a little challenging, yes for Great Tiger.

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<v Speaker 1>But but that big thing to me is everybody has.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's not one note, but there is that comical vulnerability

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody I think in the South has, maybe outside

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<v Speaker 1>of us A Chip Kelly with the soda Popinski tan oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a lot of soda Popinski.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a little bit helly, right, Yeah, there is Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>as Dan mansed, we got a lot to discuss here

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<v Speaker 2>as it relates to the six teams of the PAC

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<v Speaker 2>twelve South. We're also going to go through the Mountain

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<v Speaker 2>West Western Division, and we are recording another show right

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<v Speaker 2>after this. We will have to talk out when we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to post that Bill show. Yes, but we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to post that show at some point, like we've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing each and every year with Bill Barnwell in

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<v Speaker 2>the latter stages of July. First, we did EMO. Last year,

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<v Speaker 2>we did the big one where we talked about ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Sports video games.

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<v Speaker 2>YEP. This year it's going to be broader all things

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<v Speaker 2>nineties Internet, which is I think a real wheelhouse topic

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<v Speaker 2>for all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll just focus on nineties Internet and how it

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<v Speaker 1>affected our love life. Maybe that's the direct Probably not that,

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<v Speaker 1>but that'll be an element. Anyway, I'm excited to talk

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<v Speaker 1>PAC twelve Pack.

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<v Speaker 2>Pack twelve South is where we're starting now. You you

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<v Speaker 2>are the resident PAC twelve officionado between the two.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the only Pack twelve fan in New York. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the last I'm the only living PAC twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, and you're an endangered species. You're from this part

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<v Speaker 2>of the country, so you really truly understand what this

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<v Speaker 2>what this signifies in that area of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>It just means a little, a little, a little bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people have better things to do. Yeah, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to do on the West coast.

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<v Speaker 2>As you look at the PAC twelve South, what is

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<v Speaker 2>your general broad overview? What's your takeaway?

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<v Speaker 1>So to Pop Penski right that there is this weird

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<v Speaker 1>cycle because I remember having a very similar conversation when

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<v Speaker 1>I was at I went to PACK twelve Media Days

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve, and there was the infusion of Rich

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<v Speaker 1>rod at Arizona. The addition, I think Todd Graham was

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<v Speaker 1>just for you know, Mike Leach was was super new

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<v Speaker 1>to the conference, and there was this idea of like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, we have these new coaches doing exciting

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<v Speaker 1>new things, and maybe this will be the spark that

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<v Speaker 1>propels the PAC twelve into a broader national conversation. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we have Herm Edwards doing it, which is a little

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<v Speaker 1>different context wise than Todd Graham. It was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of like, Ah, Todd Graham's going to stay here at

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona State. There was that big offensive mastermind in Rich

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<v Speaker 1>Rodriguez coming to Arizona. Now there's the big offensive mastermind,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Sumlan coming to Arizona. Jim Moore was relatively new

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like, oh, NFL experience didn't really work out,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's at UCLA. Chip Kelly, NFL experience didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>work out, but he's at UCLA. So there is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a cyclical nature to how we talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>PAC twelve and a rising attention across the country. But

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<v Speaker 1>because there are so many unknown factors in the PAC

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<v Speaker 1>twelve South, because of new quarterback at USC, new coach

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<v Speaker 1>at UCLA, super fun quarterback at Arizona, but new coach

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona State, you know, tearing it down to the studs

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<v Speaker 1>and starting over with an ESPN guy. Totally normal, totally

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<v Speaker 1>totally normal. And so that one thing that isn't cyclical

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<v Speaker 1>is Skoyle Whittingham's just hanging out, just chilling, developing big dudes,

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<v Speaker 1>just collecting a paycheck.

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<v Speaker 2>Winning eight nine games, Yeah, going.

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<v Speaker 1>To a goal. So there's sort of like the more

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<v Speaker 1>things change, the more things stay the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I looked at it and it's so different to

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<v Speaker 2>me because Sam Darnold's gone down, USC still has a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of talent. USC is clearly, I'm sure you would

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<v Speaker 2>agree the top dog in the PAC twelve South, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a much different setup this year. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>in this vein where we're going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>USC as I don't think a national championship contender. We're

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<v Speaker 2>used to USC being that top ten team with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of potential, a lot of promise. The potential still

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<v Speaker 2>there in fairness, but I don't know if anyone's talking

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<v Speaker 2>about USC is like a ten win team right right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It could happen, for sure, it could happen. They've got talent,

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<v Speaker 2>but that to me, it really echoes on down through

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of that division where we just don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know what to expect. There are some new coaches, there's

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<v Speaker 2>some exciting players. Utah just hanging out will probably win

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<v Speaker 2>their fair share of games, but.

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<v Speaker 1>A much much as that game is in Salt Lake City,

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<v Speaker 1>the Utah USC game, which we know what's going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>all its terrifying twenty seven twenty six Utah, right.

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<v Speaker 2>My point is that it's just like a lot lower

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<v Speaker 2>stress this year, yeah than I think I've been accustomed to.

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<v Speaker 2>As we've been previewing.

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<v Speaker 1>These yes USC specifically, there is there there always seems

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<v Speaker 1>like oh, they're replacing their entire defense, or they're replacing

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<v Speaker 1>their entire offensive line, or they only have fifty two scholarships.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is always it seems to be like dramatic off season.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, see Sarcusians fired in the middle of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Lane Kiffen is, you know, let go. There's always like

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<v Speaker 1>this dramatic element to USC. And in the way that

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<v Speaker 1>we say, you know, the acc joke free, USC is

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<v Speaker 1>drama free for the most part, like it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like there's you know, there was not crazy coaching changes there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, quarterback obviously, you know Sam Donald leaves early,

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<v Speaker 1>but there the quarterback depth is pretty good at least

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<v Speaker 1>with decent talented quarterback. Just don't screw up. Give the

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<v Speaker 1>ball to some talented playmakers behind a good offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>USC's offense should once again be at the top. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they lose Tyson Hilton to Tennessee, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, tem Martin's.

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<v Speaker 2>But they kept Clay, They kept Clay.

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<v Speaker 1>They kept Clay and kept Clay, and so well there's

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<v Speaker 1>Clay and Clancy, but keeping Clay is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on defense up front, a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys have rotated in. There's a ton of blue chip talent,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the least surprising thing about USC. And they

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<v Speaker 1>were a little bit shaky at times against the run

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<v Speaker 1>last year, but look at their schedule. Who's running all

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<v Speaker 1>over USC this year? Who is taking advantage of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no Rasheem Green China and Wosu was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>great underrated defensive players last year and he's gone. It's

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<v Speaker 1>super disruptive. But you'll see. I don't believe Washington State

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<v Speaker 1>is going to run a ton. You know, they go

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<v Speaker 1>to Stanford, that's going to be a mess. That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be tough to stop Bryce Love for four quarters.

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<v Speaker 1>But Colorado Utah, I think Zach Moss is fine, Arizona State,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not terribly worried about Oregon State, cal Ucla, Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame will probably have a decent running game by that

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, that runs a long.

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<v Speaker 2>Defense and defense that will test this USC offense for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think you're right, and given the talent, given

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the schedule is for the most part

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a tougher. You know, going to Stanford to

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<v Speaker 1>Texas early is a quick wake up call for whoever

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<v Speaker 1>starts a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, beyond that, not bad. Yes, it's workable, and

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<v Speaker 2>it'll certainly give them a chance to enough runway to

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<v Speaker 2>put together a good campaign far and away the top

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<v Speaker 2>team in the Pactwell, South know the way you can

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<v Speaker 2>look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's here's the quarterback issue. Obviously people have and

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<v Speaker 1>we are included in that. JT. Daniels declared recommit. What

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<v Speaker 1>am I looking for? He enters USC a year early,

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<v Speaker 1>he reclassified sure and has the clear highest ceiling most

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<v Speaker 1>talents you know, would have been the nomber one quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps or probably like the a top four quarterback in

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<v Speaker 1>last year's class as a junior was. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty talented class with Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's clear that he will eventually be the starting quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>sooner rather than later. If he doesn't start out, I

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<v Speaker 1>assume it could be uh, Matt Fink or Jack Sears.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably Fink has a little bit more experience in the offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, listen, Matt Sink was six for nine. Yeah, think

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<v Speaker 2>what I say?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Sink?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, Matt think excuse me? Yeah, six for nine

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<v Speaker 2>passing last year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. Throwing that out there six nine. So the

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<v Speaker 1>only real concern I would have about USC is USC

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<v Speaker 1>how do they shoot themselves in the foot in that

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<v Speaker 1>one dumb game they like not to say Utah is disappointing,

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<v Speaker 1>but they barely get by Utah last year at home,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, and I think it was Troy Williams starting,

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<v Speaker 1>not Tyler Huntley. They beat him by a point. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's can USC make, you know, make its way

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<v Speaker 1>through the Pac twelve unscathed or whatever? Because they're probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win the Pack twelve if it's not for Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>who I don't believe they play this year, which is nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's how will USC acquit itself nationally? It's what do

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<v Speaker 1>they look like against what should be a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>Texas defense? And if they win the Pac twelve and

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<v Speaker 1>either end up in the playoff or end up in

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<v Speaker 1>a New Year's Bowl game, what do they look like

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<v Speaker 1>after looking abysmal against Ohio State this past bowl game

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<v Speaker 1>and abysmal against Alabama the year before.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's my big operative question about USC. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the depth chart now, I'm looking at what USC

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<v Speaker 2>brings back on both sides of the football. They're pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good up front, at least on offense. Yeah, oh, definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>four or five linemen are back. That's a good foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>There are questions about the quarterback position. Whoever that quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>ends up being will probably be just fine. Yes, in

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<v Speaker 2>the grand scheme of things. They've got a good running

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<v Speaker 2>back and Stephen Karr not quite as explosive as what

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<v Speaker 2>they've had, but still versatile, serviceable. He will give them

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<v Speaker 2>numbers and they're fine out wide, as they always are

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<v Speaker 2>at USC. The offense will be far and away better

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<v Speaker 2>than most other offenses, not just in the conference, but

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<v Speaker 2>probably in the country because they're USC. My questions are

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<v Speaker 2>on defense upfront, a little new, all right, what are

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<v Speaker 2>we dealing with upfront? We'll have to figure that out

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<v Speaker 2>as we go along. But the back half of that

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<v Speaker 2>defense is actually in pretty good shape. So even though

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<v Speaker 2>we're not talking as much about USC this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's because of the quarterback position, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is still a team that's in a really good spot.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to win a bunch of games, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get better as the year goes on, which is

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<v Speaker 2>what scares me as a Notre Dame fan. Knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>the last game of the year is against Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>at home. What will USC look like by that point

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<v Speaker 2>in the season. That's terrifying to me. It's always terrifying

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<v Speaker 2>to me when the last game of the year is

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<v Speaker 2>in LA against USC, but particularly this team, which feels

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<v Speaker 2>like it has a lot of room to grow. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a scary proposition.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the great news again, if you're a USC fan,

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<v Speaker 1>because everything is pretty much great news, there's a good

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<v Speaker 1>chance you live in southern California or environs and you're

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<v Speaker 1>recruiting super well. You have consistency when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacks that they will face this year, I all

0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.480
<v Speaker 1>can go through the quarterback situations and you can tell

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<v Speaker 1>me if you're scared about any of these guys throwing downfield.

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<v Speaker 1>And USC has gotten after the quarterback pretty well, and

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<v Speaker 1>they return a bunch in the secondary. I know Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Jones was kicked off the team, but other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>they've recruited super well. There unlv and Armani Rogers. He's fun,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a dual threat. He's not beating anybody deep consistently.

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<v Speaker 1>Stanford's pass game I don't think has been anywhere near

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<v Speaker 1>where it should be Texas. I don't think they're beating

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of teams deep, especially early on. I like

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<v Speaker 1>the receivers, but I don't think they have that the deep.

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<v Speaker 2>That play is not a strength for Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not at all. Washington State's breaking a new quarterback situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Khalil Taate, Yes, because there's that threat of run. He

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<v Speaker 1>should be a to pop some Steven Montes, Tyler Huntley.

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<v Speaker 1>They've struggled throwing downfield a lot recently, Arizona State and

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<v Speaker 1>many wil Niquil Harry. Yeah, I'm scared of that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared of that. Oregon State, no Cal at this point, No,

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<v Speaker 1>especially no Demetrius Robertson. You seel like Will Spae, Wilton

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<v Speaker 1>Spade not necessarily and Brandon wimbush Ian book. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to say you should be threatened downfield?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I prefer dual threat?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? But yeah, so, I think it's very difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine USC losing fewer than or excuse me, losing more

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<v Speaker 1>than two two and a half games, as say, two

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<v Speaker 1>to three games. Yeah, and that's if everything goes wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they go nine and three.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's fair. Yeah, I think that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So ten and two feels about ten and two

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and one, even if quarterback is simply pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, that's USC again ten and two a year ago,

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<v Speaker 2>starting over in some respects this year, but still in

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<v Speaker 2>a very very good spot as we.

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<v Speaker 1>End healthy Porter Gustin too, I'll get after it.

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<v Speaker 2>As we enter twenty eighteen. Sure, all right, where do

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<v Speaker 2>we want to go next?

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<v Speaker 1>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>After USC? It feels to me like the natural logic

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<v Speaker 2>would take us to.

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<v Speaker 1>Utah, Colorado. Oh, let's go to Utah. Let's go to Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk big heavies.

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<v Speaker 2>Utah, all right, big ugly quarterback situation is not bad now.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I say that every year. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>not bad. It's an underhanded compliment if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call it that, but it's not bad, right it it

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<v Speaker 2>he Tyler Huntley was hurt a little bit last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct when he played, and when he got things going

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<v Speaker 2>in a good direction, it was it was pretty serviceable.

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<v Speaker 2>He started the season really well, started the season right.

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<v Speaker 2>When he came back later in the year was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot better. But Utah, I think has a good quarterback situation,

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<v Speaker 2>better than a lot of other teams in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm fine with Utah and where they stand.

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<v Speaker 1>With Huntley, there's a lot of promise in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't think has existed sit in Salt Lake City,

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<v Speaker 1>not just because of Hunting in the way he started

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<v Speaker 1>out last year. He had the huge game I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was San Jose State. It wasn't against huge opponents,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had a ridiculous game against UCLA and I

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<v Speaker 1>think was good against I want to say Wazoo. So

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<v Speaker 1>there is there's a lot of promise there. He struggled

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<v Speaker 1>against Oregon. But the reason I say promise is if

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<v Speaker 1>anything happens with him, if he's not cautious in the

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<v Speaker 1>way because he is a dual threat like he should

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<v Speaker 1>have been last year. Jack Tuttle is the probable backup,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jack Tuttle is somebody I think he committed to

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Whittingham early at quarterback blue chip from southern California

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<v Speaker 1>and just turned away everybody to stick with Utah. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people are genuinely not surprised

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<v Speaker 1>but impressed that Utah was able to reel in a

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<v Speaker 1>high level quarterback talent in a way that they really

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<v Speaker 1>have sure, So quarterback situation is great. They replaced a

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<v Speaker 1>lot on defense, But I'm just I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about Utah defense. I'm just not.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you never worry about Utah defense because, as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Whittingham is just hanging out there, finding a way

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<v Speaker 2>to put together a beast defensive line like he does

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<v Speaker 2>every year, right and hold teams down. I'm really curious

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<v Speaker 2>about this offense now. I'm not enamored with their situation

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<v Speaker 2>out wide. However, they do have Zach Moss, a returning

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<v Speaker 2>running back and a pretty experienced offensive line that he

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<v Speaker 2>can run behind. Yep. Combine that with a good quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>I think all things considered, Utah has in a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good spot offensively. And that's not something I'm used to saying. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>we usually don't have a lot of nice things to

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<v Speaker 2>say about Utah as an offense. Maybe they've got one

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<v Speaker 2>or two studs that were going to follow throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>course of the year, But I don't know the last

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<v Speaker 2>time I really felt this way about a Utah team,

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<v Speaker 2>just looking at it and being like, yep, they'll be

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<v Speaker 2>able to.

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<v Speaker 1>Move the ball. Yeah, I'm still not convinced because of receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I know They get Britain Covey back, and that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal. He took his LDS mission. But the game

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<v Speaker 1>changers at receiver just don't seem to be there for Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>They bring in Darren Carrington last year as a grad transfer,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a nice addition, but it was not

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<v Speaker 1>indicative of where Utah's offense is going because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they have the talent at receiver yet. But if

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Tuttle, if you know, Tyler Huntley is really good

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<v Speaker 1>this year, maybe that changes. And I like their offensive

0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.480
<v Speaker 1>coordinator a lot. Troy Taylor came to them from Eastern

0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Washington running the Boat Baldwin wide open systems, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's still a move that's going to pay dividends.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Bradley and Ay he is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>better and more underrated defensive linemen in the country. He

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<v Speaker 1>is just he is this year's whoever Hunter Dimmick whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly, he is that guy. I think he led

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<v Speaker 1>them in sacks last year. In any case, Utah and

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<v Speaker 1>defense is one of those things there's very few unworriables,

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<v Speaker 1>not definitely, not a word in college football. We're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna get it figured out pretty quickly. Schedule is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty nice. They go to NIU, which is it feels trappy,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels dangerous, you know, with an offense that's not

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<v Speaker 1>like dominant to go against that defense. I'm not writing

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<v Speaker 1>in a win there. But I think they miss Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe right. I know they get Washington earlier after NIU.

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<v Speaker 2>See here. Oh here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't love their schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I agree with you that the non conference schedule

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<v Speaker 2>is okay, Yeah, all right at Northern Illinois, maybe a

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.719
<v Speaker 2>little trappy Weber State the Thursday to start the season.

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<v Speaker 1>They finished with the.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got the Holy War, which is always kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a tricky game. But they didn't really draw the correct

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<v Speaker 2>straw in terms of who they're getting from the north. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's true, because I see Washington on here. I see

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<v Speaker 2>Stanford a road game against Stanford on here. I see

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon late in the year on here. Their PAC twelve

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<v Speaker 2>North component of the schedule is not doing them any favors.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it looks like they miss Oregon State and Cal

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<v Speaker 1>which is not who you want to miss. No, not generally,

0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:51.360
<v Speaker 1>not who you want to miss. So, yes, their schedule

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<v Speaker 1>is rough. I'm not thinking b why he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be tricky. I probably not, probably not. Defensively, they may improve,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am I'm not fully sold on that. The

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<v Speaker 1>big thing is Utah consistency. It's tough to go to

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<v Speaker 1>Salt Lake City. This is something we try to say

0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:12.600
<v Speaker 1>every years. It's a loud place, it's trappy, it's at altitude.

0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:17.439
<v Speaker 1>The Utah's in that zone where teams like USC or

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon or whoever think they can just walk in and

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<v Speaker 1>be more talented than and then they just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>get whooped up a little bit. And so I am

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<v Speaker 1>I am looking forward to watching Utah. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>see them with this schedule winning more than seven or eight.

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<v Speaker 2>That being said, yeah, if you replay each of our

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<v Speaker 2>last ten years of pre exact game, it's the exact same. Yeah,

0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:42.280
<v Speaker 2>it's the exact same Because I'm going through I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>same exercise. I'm counting out all right, when and when

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<v Speaker 2>I get to seven, Yeah, that I feel pretty good about.

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<v Speaker 2>In my head, that means nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>From Utah and Kyle that always means at least eight

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<v Speaker 2>maybe nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Utah's sort of puts the no in November though,

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<v Speaker 1>where you get super excited about them through Halloween, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden like heh yeah, they're seven

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<v Speaker 1>and five, eight and far Like, it's just I don't

0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:08.639
<v Speaker 1>think they have the depth necessarily. I don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>have these special players on it that will be the issue. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the special players on offense, I think is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the limiting factor.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, from Utah, then let's go to Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's do it. Let's talk about a special offensive player.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about a special offensive player. You and I

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<v Speaker 2>had an informal discussion before we hit record. Mm hm,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the best player in the Pac twelve South?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's probably Khalil Tate, But there are other people

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<v Speaker 1>that I could see making a case by you, like

0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Nikhil Harry might be the most single most talented player

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<v Speaker 1>at his position, not just in the conference, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the country. There are players like that, Chase Lucas also

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<v Speaker 1>at Arizona State, Bradley in a Utah. We'll see what JT.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniels or Stephen Carr, any of the guys on USC

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<v Speaker 1>Porter Gustin bring to the table. UCLI, I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>a special player right now. I am I am curious

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, I think Khalil Tate right now is he's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be the no brainer, pure talent.

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:09.400
<v Speaker 2>He's at least your no brainer Heisman candidate in.

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<v Speaker 1>Kid gains averaging fifteen yards per carry like it was stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>Right the PAC twelve right. So in and of himself,

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<v Speaker 2>Khalil Tate makes Arizona interesting. There are other components that

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<v Speaker 2>make Arizona even more interesting. They've got a new coach,

0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:27.679
<v Speaker 2>Rich Rod was unceremoniously relieved of duties yes late in

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:32.160
<v Speaker 2>the process, and they go to Kevin Someone. Is Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Someone a different coach than Rich Rodriguez? I feel, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they're different physically different people, but it feels like

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<v Speaker 2>mostly the same kind of thing. Our question, our persistent

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 2>question on this show since they announced that he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the guy, is how much different is

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<v Speaker 2>this really going to be? How much different will this

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 2>team look from what we're used to seeing now the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years under Rich Rodriguez.

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<v Speaker 1>So someone brings in coordinators he's either worked with as

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:02.640
<v Speaker 1>recently as last year or recently as in a few

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 1>years ago. Marcel Yates he retains from rich Rod's staff

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 1>as defensive coordinator running the four two five he had successful.

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the talent level on Arizona's defense has been

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<v Speaker 1>super disappointing. Like I don't think it's up to par

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<v Speaker 1>as for competing for the Pac twelve South recently. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple of years, you know, you remember Scooby

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Wright destroying worlds, running that sort of fun, interesting, unpredictable

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 1>three three five under Jeff Castile, where that defense was

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:31.199
<v Speaker 1>a nice compliment to the offense. They were fast and

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>unpredictable defense, like Colin Schooler, who was probably a freshman

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 1>All American last year. And I think it's older brother

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 1>plays or yeah, I think older brothers at Oregon. And

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I really like the idea of Arizona having a fast,

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.879
<v Speaker 1>fun defense with what there should be able to recruit

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>from southern California, but the talent isn't there yet, especially upfront.

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.399
<v Speaker 1>The good news is even if they're giving up thirty

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>eight forty one points, they're probably scoring forty five points.

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>They can drop a bunch of those digits. And it's

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Khalil Tate. You know, he got beat up near the

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 1>end of last season and wasn't as effective, But effective

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Khalil Tate is about the scariest thing in the country

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<v Speaker 1>outside of Bryce Love.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we have seen Kevin Someone in a situation fairly

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 2>recently where he had a dynamic quarterback. He just wrote

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 2>that uarters.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be the talking point is can Kevin

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Someone do for Khalil Tate what he did for Johnny Manzil.

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 2>He was successful for a finite moment in time. He

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:37.120
<v Speaker 2>was very successful having a dynamic player at quarterback, who

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 2>could run, who could throw, who could just make things interesting.

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 2>And so as Khalil Tate goes, so will Arizona's offense.

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Probably so will Arizona's team, and probably will I think

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:55.159
<v Speaker 2>this new look Kevin someone Era, given where Texas A

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 2>and M was when he.

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Left here, here would be my concern about that line

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>of talking. Speaking I don't know English. Johnny Manzel had

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:09.120
<v Speaker 1>an NFL offensive line in front of him. Arizona does

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>not have that in front of They're fine, but they

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:12.159
<v Speaker 1>don't have it in front of the.

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Tate whatever receiver Mike Evans.

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Swope like, there was serious, serious talents surrounding Johnny Manziel,

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Which is not to say that it wasn't Johnny Manziel

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:26.199
<v Speaker 1>doing it, but it was Johnny Manzel taking advantage and

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>being put into a situation to maximize his own talents.

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:32.199
<v Speaker 1>I like the Arizona receivers. There's no Mike Evans. I

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>like Sean Brown and Tony Allison, They're not quite Mike Evans.

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I like JJ Taylor a whole bunch. He's one of

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.479
<v Speaker 1>my just in terms of watching a player, JJ Taylor.

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>He's tiny, He's got one of the most ridiculous first

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:45.479
<v Speaker 1>steps of any running backs in the country. He's going

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>to get beat up and that might be soak and wet.

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>That's that's sort of a concern of mine. So that

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>almost makes what Khalil Tate's ceiling more impressive to me,

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.439
<v Speaker 1>because he is that one man wrecking where we saw

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>it against Wazoo last year, we sagt against Colorado and

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>UCLA and USCA putting up stupid numbers. He is a gamer.

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I am. I'm not sold on the Johnny Manzel progression

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 1>of just absurd every week.

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I and look, I don't mean to draw

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 2>a direct comparison between the no, but it's really they're

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 2>different players. But Kevin someone's been in that situation where

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>he's had a really dynamic player at quarterback, and he

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 2>was able to use that to his advantage. It actually

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of fell apart when Manziel left. Yeah, he needs

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 2>that guy a quarterback. Just to remind people of Khalil

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 2>Tate's numbers form a year, please.

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready.

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 2>You know this has no real bearing on what happens

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen, but just a tip of the hat

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 2>to Khalil Tate.

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Fifteen hundred and thirty yards on the ground with twelve

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 2>touchdowns and.

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 1>He didn't start this season that court. You know, we

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't start the season playing quarterback at Brandon Dawkins did.

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>And sixty two percent of his passes completion fifteen hundred

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 2>and ninety one yards passing in fourteen touchdowns, nine interceptions.

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 2>They'll need to improve upon, sure, all right, but still

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 2>a dynamic player, really fun player to watch if you care.

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 2>As we've been framing this out on all of our

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 2>previews shows, if you if you are looking for a

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 2>reason to care, just broadly about the PAC twelve South,

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Khalil takes a pretty big one. Yeah, get used to

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 2>that name if you're not already familiar with it.

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely stay up late for Khalil Tate's that's my bumpers.

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I like that very good. Yeah late for Tate. I

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>don't have too much to add other than it worries

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>me that whenever you have to say, oh, the defense

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>has to improve to below average, that is troubling because

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>they were a bismal last year.

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>And well, let me let me ask you this question

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 2>because at the last show when we talked about the

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Big twelve, Yeah, we were throwing out numbers. Top forty

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 2>seven for Oklahoma would be good, top forty five for

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 2>someone else, top sixty eight, top what would be good

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 2>for Arizona?

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Given I think they finished around ninety fifth and S

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and P plus defense. So you're asking me what the

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>defense needs to finish. Give the offense enough runway to

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>win games more often than not, because you know they

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>feel six and six, seven and five ish to me,

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>they need to have they need to feel the top seventy.

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Seventies, Yeah, seventy seventy five, somewhere.

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>In that range. And schedule wise, quarterback wise, I know

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>they miss do they miss Washington? They do miss Washington,

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>miss Washing so that's nice. But they do have Oregon.

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>They have Oregon at home. They go to Wazoo BYU Houston,

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Southern Utah, Oregon State to d USC to start out

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the season at Houston. I would be pretty worried about

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>that was a close game recently. And I really like

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Derek King at quarterback. If we're talking about a special

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>quarterback or potentially a special quarterback who can take advantage

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of a lackluster defense, Derek King maybe that name. And

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>otherwise road trip wise, going to Oregon State to Wazoo

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to UCLA. Going to the UCLA is not all that difficult,

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>but it just isn't I schedule is fine. I just

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>it's faced out pretty well. For being honest, tape gets hurt.

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>It's just it to me, it's too much. I know

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>people are talking about Arizona as a wild card in

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the South. It's too much on his shoulders eyes, that's true.

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>And even if you know Johnny Manziel got hurt, there

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>were other options for Texas A and M and Nolman Zone.

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>You're you're always going to get above average offense. But

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that's literally always above average, and that's for better or worse.

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, as khuil Take goes, so will Arizona. Yeah, I

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>think that's fair to say, let's stay in the state

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 2>of Arizona, let's and let's talk about ASU. ASU went

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>seven to five a year ago. They have also changed

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 2>out their coaching situation. I think you described it accurately

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>at the top of the show, where they've ripped it

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 2>down to the studs and entrusted it. Now the rebuild

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 2>to a guy from ESPN. Yep, Herm Edwards who came in,

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 2>was a bit confused in his introductory press.

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what Herm is like. I don't know

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>what Herm is doing in that Like, I don't know

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>what he's saying, but I don't know what. Like is

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>he crazy or crazy like a fox? Yeah, that's the thing, right,

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Is he just dressing up obvious things in a weird

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>way to just have fun with it. I don't know.

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm not ready to say what Herm

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Edwards is doing is all that different or weird? He's

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>just dressing it up different.

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>If Herm Edwards would have left his post at ESPN

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 2>and announced to the world maybe on Twitter, I am

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 2>going to go on a motivational speaking tour.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>The most sense, I would scroll past it on Twitter

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>without thinking because like, yeah, of course, of.

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Course, right, he's a very very cogent, powerful influential speaker.

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 2>He grabs your attention. Sure that has to stand for something,

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe very little thing as it relates to coaching. I

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know what else he's doing here, though, I think

0:31:56.040 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 2>he could probably motivate the troops his strategy of upending

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>the existing model and starting anew at asu as you know,

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's the most revolutionary thing to hit college football

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 2>in a decade.

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I think he's just describing something that already exists in

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>a different way.

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 2>He's pulling an apple, is what he's doing.

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, absolutely, he's making a big deal over removing

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the headphone jack when other places had removed the headphone

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>jack already. But he with his platform and going on

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>TV all the time, and you know, having that big personality,

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>it feels different and wacky, when in fact he's probably

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>just talking about it in a slightly different way. Here's

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the great news for herm Edwards. He does have an

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>offensive and defensive coordinator after losing both his offensive and

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator after staying after saying they were going to stay,

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>So that would have been what Phil Bennett and the

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>new coach at Louisiana. What's its face? Billy Napier, Right,

0:32:56.360 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>So I apologize to Louisiana. What's its face? Great news.

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Manny Wilkins is an underrated national quarterback, probably a top

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>fifteen quarterback in the country, twenty quarterback in the country.

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Really good. The running game I don't think is going

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to be all that great, But I really like the

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 1>combination of Nikhil Harry and Kyle Williams. I think that's

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the better duos in the country, mostly because

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>of Nikhil Harry, but also because it gives them options downfield.

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>The line in front of him, I think is pretty good.

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>And Arizona State on the other side of the ball,

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>they're going I believe they're going to a three three five. Correct,

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>That's correct, They're going to a three three five And

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>they may have the single best cover corner in the

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>conference in Chase Lucas. So in terms of pieces, in

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>terms of what Herm Edwards can do, and we're not

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>necessarily only talking about this season going out and recruiting.

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Look what we helped do, whether it's we or the

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>previous staff, whatever. Look what Chase Lucas has been able

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>to do and thrive with at Arizona State and Tempe.

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, look at what we're able to develop. Look

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>at Manny Wilkins is you know, by all accounts like

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>has a great story, a great dude, whatever, and he's

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>thriving in Tempe. So there are down to those studs.

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>There are studs.

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 2>There, there are actual studs. And to your point, just

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 2>to build upon what you said about the receiving corps,

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not just us that feels good about that receiving cores.

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 2>They were so confident in their own receiving corps. Jalen

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.919
<v Speaker 2>Henry or excuse me, Jalen Harvey, who was their third

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 2>leading receiver, was moved to defense. That's how good they

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 2>feel about their depth on thet the I thought you

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 2>were trying to say Jalen Strong and I was get

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 2>all mixed up.

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but no, your.

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Strong would be a great addition as well. But

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 2>this is a different one, and they've moved them to

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 2>defense because they feel pretty good about their depth out

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 2>at the wide receiver spot. So this is, as you said,

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 2>a team being ripped down to the studs with at

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 2>least studs on which they can build something moving forward.

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Now, tricky, tricky September. Yeah, Michigan State, San Diego State,

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and Washington are three of the best twenty defenses in

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the country, and they have them in a row, two

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 1>of which on the road. San Diego State. Who san

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Diego State just relaxes and beats pack twelve teams. That's

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>what San Diego State does. Michigan State should have a

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>very good defense, Washington should have an excellent defense. Beyond that, though,

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>it's still pretty tricky. They have Stanford and USC in

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:19.439
<v Speaker 1>sort of consecutive weeks.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Let's look at the back half of this freaking schedule.

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Look at this schedule. They get a bye week on

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 2>October thirteenth. What will you do on your bye WEEKDN

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 2>just chill, may play some video games.

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Go for a run, I mean Phoenix and Tempe finally

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 1>becomes like inhabitable right thirteen.

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 2>But then after that Stanford, by the way, also off

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 2>a bye week, going into their matchup on a Thursday

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 2>night in Tempe October eighteenth. Yeah, the following week at USC,

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 2>the week after that back home against Utah after that

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of awesome let down, look ahead Sandwich or just

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:02.240
<v Speaker 2>a regular sandwich spot at home November tenth against UCLA,

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:05.359
<v Speaker 2>who maybe pretty fisty, like figure it out by then

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Wi Man, come on, here we go. And then ASU

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:10.720
<v Speaker 2>closes out the season on the road, back to back

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:15.760
<v Speaker 2>at Oregon at Arizona rivalry game. That's a tough freaking schedule.

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's going to be a pretty good Oregon defense.

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>A week before Khalil takes the.

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Over under for wins for ash was four and a half.

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say it's safe to say they're not

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>going to a bowl. I can't see it. I just can't.

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>It's too much.

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 2>If they beat you TSA, that's one not beating Michigan State.

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:38.240
<v Speaker 1>It's at home, it's in Tempe.

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're beating them that early.

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Michigan State is traditionally under Mark d Antonio, a grower

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>rather than a shower.

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm talking fair enough, but you know

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I count these up here. Getting to five is tough.

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:54.399
<v Speaker 2>I be inclined to go under.

0:36:55.000 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so they could San Diego State. I think they're

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>hiring their Their new defensive coordinator was last year San

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Diego State defensive coordinator. So maybe there's like a little

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>bit of an edge there. So we give UTSA on

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 1>the road. It's not terribly difficult to play at San

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Diego State, one two, Oregon State, Colorado and they sneak

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>either Utah, Ucla or Arizona. Maybe that's five. I have

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:24.359
<v Speaker 1>them at five and seven.

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so no bowl. I don't know we're in agreement here,

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 2>No bowl. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go three and nine,

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 2>four and eight. Wow, Okay, how do you get the five?

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Five is a tough, tough, tough ask.

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>So if if my my level of success is generally

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 1>determined by the combination of quarterback and defense, and I

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.320
<v Speaker 1>think they have a good quarterback, and I the defense

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 1>is probably below average, So that doesn't feel like.

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:56.839
<v Speaker 2>A bowl no to me, not a bowl team. All right,

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 2>let's go to UCLA. Let's get this cat out of

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 2>the bag. Here. A lot of news in the off season, right,

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:03.959
<v Speaker 2>Jim Morric gone.

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Twelve million dollars.

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Who will UCLA turned to to fill that void to

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:11.760
<v Speaker 2>take the program forward?

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Carl Derell It is our boy, Charles chip Kelly.

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Charles Kelly.

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.439
<v Speaker 2>Have we agreed that we will refer to him as

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Charles chip Kelly all season long?

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>We have to. We've made the commitment in June.

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 2>So we just steer into it at the you don't

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 2>have to I am.

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 1>I've been the one saying it, I know, but I'm

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>the bigger jackass of the two of us, so and

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm more committed to beating a dead horse than I

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>will say anybody that has ever had or been on

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>a college football podcast. So, okay, I like to hire

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>a lote. I like Charles schip Kelly and what his

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>ceiling should be in Westwood, he will recruit better. But

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I think in a similar fashion, like I wouldn't be

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>surprised if u CLA brought in that level of three

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>four star rather than four or five star like some

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 1>of Jim Morris's classes, because I think they're going to

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>be more judicious and they you know, Chip Kelly is

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that reputation with his staff, like taking a lot of

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 1>time to do background research on recruits and stuff like that,

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>So I think he's going to find quote unquote his guys. Sure,

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:18.879
<v Speaker 1>I know Chris Peterson has the the OKG are kind

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>of guys. Okg's guys. Chip Kelly has that very similar mindset.

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>So I think UCLA is going to populate that roster

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>really well in the long term. But we're talking about this.

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 2>Here, talking about this yere and for this year. I

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 2>think the questions that I have about UCLA are more

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 2>about where they're headed in the future. I think if

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:41.279
<v Speaker 2>you're a UCLA fan, maybe if you're a USC fan

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 2>wondering what UCLA is going to be like in conference,

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 2>in your side of the conference a couple of years

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 2>from now, what you want to watch for at the

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 2>end of this year is does it look like they're

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 2>building towards something. Does it look like they're headed in

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 2>a positive direction? It will take them a couple of

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 2>years to implement this system to bring in the our

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 2>kind the guys, if you can call him that. For

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:06.759
<v Speaker 2>the short term, though, what kind of a canvas do

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 2>we have here? And furthermore, what will that system look like?

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.240
<v Speaker 2>This has been our question all throughout the off season.

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>We know what Chip Kelly looked like at Oregon, we

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:20.319
<v Speaker 2>know what he looked like in the NFL. What kind

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 2>of system now will we see at UCLA. Will it

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 2>be such where he's trying to use his personnel to

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 2>the best of their ability and build a system around them,

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 2>or will it be truly we're starting from scratch. We're

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 2>going back to what I know and we're able to

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.760
<v Speaker 2>recruit guys and trying to apply guys that fit my system.

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>So Chip Kelly has always been a let's figure out

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>what works with what we have. He has always been

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>that way. That's why he initially went to that system

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.280
<v Speaker 1>at New Hampshire and brought it to Oregon. The important

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>thing if you're a UCLA fan and it's going to

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>be kind of a rough season, even winning games, it's

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>not going to be pretty because I don't think the

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>talent level is fully there. We talked to Bruce Felman

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>about this earlier in the summer. He went to some

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>practices and up close, he's just like, they have a

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a ways to go. The great news

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>if you're a UCLA fan, and I sell this to

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:09.879
<v Speaker 1>you as an Oregon fan who has spent a lot

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:13.800
<v Speaker 1>of time watching Chip Kelly work his magic. Chip Kelly

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:19.439
<v Speaker 1>made a lot of decidedly non NFL quarterbacks look really good.

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Right now, UCLA has a true freshman coming in Dorian Robinson, Thompson,

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Darrin Thompson, Robbs etr excuse me, DTR Devin Modster, who

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>started a couple games last year and looked pretty good

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 1>against Kansas State at times. When I say at times

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it was good first half, it was a terrible second half.

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>And Wilton spake. Now if we run through some of

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 1>the names that I got to watch at Oregon, so

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Jeremiah a solely what NFL team is he playing for?

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I will yeah, he was kicked off of that team.

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Justin Roper as a fifth string shredded South Florida in

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the Sun Bowl and was totally serviceable. Justin Roper is

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>not as talented as any of the people in the

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 1>UCLA's quarterback room. Darren Thomas left a year early. Was

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>not a great move, but Marcus Mariota was coming in.

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Darren Thomas arguably after Marcus Mariota, Oregon's most successful quarterback ever.

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Haven't heard the name Darren Thomas in a long time.

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>So the good news is Chip Kelly is going to

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>put whoever starts at quarterback in a favorable position. The

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>receivers are pretty good. I've been on the Theo Howard

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>train forever. I don't know he'll actually be good, but

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>he has the talent and has the speed. I know.

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>They bring in Chase Coda from up in Oregon. He

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.439
<v Speaker 1>is like an Oregon legacy and a big deal was made.

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>He was a big time recruit. So there is some

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 1>talent receiver. I don't love their offensive line. I like

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys on defense more in the back end.

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Darnay Holmes calbass is high should be a really good

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:51.720
<v Speaker 1>cover corner for UCLA. And we'll see with Jalen Phillips

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 1>came in with a lot of hype. But I am

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>a huge fan of Jerry Asinarro, their defensive coordinator, although

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't actually been a full fledged defensive coordinator in

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 1>a long time. I like their staff a lot. I

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 1>like what's happening in Westwood. I am not positive and

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this before. This is a long term thing.

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:14.919
<v Speaker 1>Is Chip Kelly two thousand and nine chip Kelly right now?

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I hope so. For UCLA's fans, entertainment fan, sure, But

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:20.959
<v Speaker 1>UCLA's schedule is.

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 2>It's Oklahoma on the road Week two. That's not favorite.

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Fresno State has maybe the best defense in the Mountain West. Yeah.

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I love their middle linebacker.

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Let me read through this quick. Yeah, they open up

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 2>against Cincinnati.

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:38.839
<v Speaker 1>A quick preview. Their middle linebacker Fresno State. I think

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Allison whoa.

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, continue next week at Oklahoma, next week home against Fresno,

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 2>than a bye at Colorado, Washington at cal Arizona, Utah

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 2>on a Friday at Oregon at ASU, USC and Stanford.

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 1>It just does not there. There are no two weeks

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>in there unless you want to. Like even Arizona and

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Utah both at home, it's you're still dealing with a

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.320
<v Speaker 1>lot in those two games, UCLA will.

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Pull an upset on Somebody.

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Give me the team on the road that UCLA is

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 1>most likely to be, well, it will be a definite

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 1>dog against that they'll upset.

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:23.760
<v Speaker 2>It could be Arizona State.

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 1>You think that, I don't think that. Well, no, okay,

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>they're on the road against Arizona. Say, I don't know

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 1>if they'll be a don't know if they'll be a dog.

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, I'm saying a clear better situation is

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 1>it Oregon? No, it's hard to I know, I don't

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 1>know if they're a dog against the road. So any

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>of the teams, so like, they could beat Utah, I

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>think they could be a home dog against you. They

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>could beat Utah, could beat Utah.

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So transition year for UCLA. There's no harm in that.

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I think you look for reasons to be optimistic.

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.399
<v Speaker 1>That's Halloween week, by the way, Utah. So it's deep,

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 1>deeper into the season where they couldn't rhythm and understanding.

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm not prepared to make a true prediction

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 2>here on UCLA transition here. Yeah, I say that I'm

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 2>not a bowl team, not with the schedule.

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think they will be on that

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:17.399
<v Speaker 1>quest for six late. I think the conversation could be

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, they could end up being five and six.

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:22.760
<v Speaker 1>After the USC game.

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:26.439
<v Speaker 2>You're like, oh, if they beat Stanford at home, Kelly,

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 2>have a Stanford problem.

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 1>And now we've got about an hour's worth of Colorado

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to talk about, right, we have a lot to deep

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 1>dive on the the monteesmobile.

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, are you on the Montese mobile.

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>He feels like the most average pack twelve quarterback where

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, oh, he's gonna be really good, really average.

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Stephen Montes.

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like one step forward, one and a half steps back.

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<v Speaker 2>The I mean the backfield could be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Trevon McMillan, the Virginia Tech graduate transfer, Yeah, they

0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>could be fun.

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 2>It's a rough schedule.

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>It's very difficult for me to find a reason to

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>care about Colorado. Wow, it's very like this was one

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 1>of the of the teams we've discussed Power five teams Colorado, if.

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Not even for our boy Rich and in Bolder, longtime listener.

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Is he in Boulder? I know he went to Colorado.

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 1>It's tough because in previous years there were defensive players,

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 1>especially that defensive backfield. These past few years has been really,

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 1>really good. They've populated the defense with a lot of

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:32.879
<v Speaker 1>junior college guys. They were got awful against the run

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 1>last year, and it's hard to imagine this defense being

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 1>at all scary in any sort of improved way from

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:44.480
<v Speaker 1>where they were last year. I Jane McIntire has been

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:46.880
<v Speaker 1>around at receiver for a while, Mike McIntyre's son. But

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I am I am finding difficulties. Let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>read a caption for you here please.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I gave away the game a little bit

0:46:57.480 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 2>on the first previous show we did when we talked

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 2>about the acc Atlantic excuse me for Atlantic.

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you.

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I did buy the Phil Steel magazine, the Real Steele Dossier,

0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 2>as I've referred to it, and I like going through

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 2>this because you know, say what you want. We've made

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 2>fun of Phil Steele's website, and we've made fun of

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 2>the publication. But there's a lot of stuff in here,

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 2>and he clearly puts the work in and the whole work,

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 2>and it is a great reference for idiots like Dan

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 2>and I who you're looking at a magazine right now too.

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 2>We need to try and get.

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 1>It's fair, it's home and garden rights, absolutely true, but

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 1>we need to try and port as much of this

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>into our brains as possible.

0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 2>What I do like about Phil Steele, He's always very optimistic.

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 2>He's not cutting anyone down in these publications. Here's what

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.280
<v Speaker 2>he says about the Colorado offense.

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>No, Phil, here's what I says.

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna read now. I'm gonna read the last two sentences.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the replacements at running back and wide receiver,

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 2>while the offensive line should be more stable despite the law.

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Is this unit underperformed last year and could actually top

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:07.240
<v Speaker 2>last year's numbers? Is that not the most optimistic spin

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 2>on where Colorado's at offensively?

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>It also doesn't really say much.

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 2>No, it doesn't say anything, but it's optimistic, is my point.

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And who's to say they underperformed, Like maybe they

0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:20.799
<v Speaker 1>just performed. Maybe that's just.

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know, but it's kind of

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 2>a compliment, kind of not kind of doesn't say much

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 2>of anything, and it actually encapsulates how I feel for

0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Colorado pretty accurately. I just don't know.

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I see four to five wins for Colorado this year.

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I think they take a step back. I just yeah,

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 1>as a program, Yeah, look.

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 2>At this freaking schedule. Colorado State at Nebraska, New Hampshire, UCLA,

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:51.240
<v Speaker 2>ASU at USC at Washington homecoming.

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:54.839
<v Speaker 1>So Colorado could beat Nebraska in week two, they could.

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Nebraska might be starting a very inexperienced quarterback.

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 2>At Arizona, Washington State Utah at closing it, closing out

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 2>the year. There might be for.

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not putting it past Colorado to throw

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>some junk at junk. Yeah, yeah, to throw some like

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 1>what's the the old Mariners Jamie Jimmy Moyer. Yeah, I'm

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:17.799
<v Speaker 1>not throwing some MacIntyre junk out the window as being

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 1>a possibility, Like I I I could see them maybe

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:27.839
<v Speaker 1>winning the first three, winning the last couple and Oregon State.

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>That gets you to six right, So that would be

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Colorado State, Nebraska, New Hampshire, last couple of Utah and

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 1>going to col Oregon State's a home game in the

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 1>middle of the year. That gets some to Bowl eligibility.

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:43.360
<v Speaker 1>That's that's some Jamie moyerdge. Yeah, I'm not.

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:45.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not what you're saying.

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying some Necros, some Phil and Joe Nicro, some

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, some knuckles, some junk, That's what I'm saying.

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:53.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, when they bring in like a shortstop in

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 1>the fifteenth inning when they've used up all the relievers

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and the shortstop randomly throws like a couple killer curveballs.

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting it past Colorado because I think McIntyre

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 1>is a good coach. I just talent wise on both sides.

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Sides. So does this make Mike McIntyre college Football's Gabe

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Kapler sort of What I'm hearing here.

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Is that was did he come in and throw good pitches?

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 2>No, he brought guys in early this year to throw

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:18.720
<v Speaker 2>those pitches.

0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's my answer.

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, yeah, it's they're not too high in Colorado. No,

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I think it's like McIntyre friend of the show, absolutely.

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Friend of the show. But bowl game is gonna be

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 1>a stretch, all right?

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Shall we dance with the Mountain West West Division?

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Mountain West West?

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Fresno State, San Diego State, UNLV, Nevada, Hawaii, and

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 2>San Jose State.

0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Here is some fantastic news. There are a number of offensive, fun,

0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 1>offensive talents in this division, and there are only of

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 1>these six teams two good defenses. So they're gonna be numbers,

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 1>They're going to be fun play. I think Armani Rodgers

0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:05.600
<v Speaker 1>not an accurate quarterback by any stretch, but in terms

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 1>of you know, he's a big dude who strides like

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:11.320
<v Speaker 1>he will put together he like, all of a sudden,

0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 1>you'll be watching the bottom line on ESPN and it'll

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 1>say you and LVQB Rmani Rodgers rush for two hundred

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 1>and fourteen yards, Like what?

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 2>What? Who?

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Here's the great news about the actual good teams in

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 1>this division. Fresno State returns a ton on the really

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 1>good defense, although their coordinator from last year goes back

0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:31.240
<v Speaker 1>to the CFL, which is not a phrase we say.

0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 2>A lot about.

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Really don't usually say that now, but Jeff Tedford has

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 1>done a very very good job. Marcus mcmay in the

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Oregon State transfer has done a good job for them.

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:41.520
<v Speaker 1>San Diego State, if there is a name, it's Juwan Washington,

0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:45.320
<v Speaker 1>who we mentioned way earlier in the spring. He could

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:48.200
<v Speaker 1>be with a really good offensive line and experienced offensive

0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:51.280
<v Speaker 1>line in front of him, the new Donnelle Pumfrey, Rashad Penny.

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Because they San Diego State just keeps turning particular back

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:57.279
<v Speaker 1>baby right right, so rocky long defense, really good running back.

0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 1>San Diego State is going to threaten ten wins again.

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:02.759
<v Speaker 1>They just are. That's It's one of the more underrated

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 1>national consistent stories with San Diego State right now is

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that they are just a threat for double digits every

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 1>year with that combination. Beyond that Nevada, I'm not buying Hawaii, sorry,

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:16.799
<v Speaker 1>nik Rolovich. No. San Jose State, Eh, nothing there for me.

0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Maybe interesting skill talent we have in our sheet here

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:21.399
<v Speaker 2>for yeah, San Jose State.

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're healthier. San Jose State has fallen off since

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 1>what David fails. Mike McIntyre, it's a deep cut. They've

0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:32.760
<v Speaker 1>fallen off significantly. I'm not in on the Spartans, although

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:37.719
<v Speaker 1>still San Jose the home of my favorite torta in America.

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Your favorite torda.

0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:41.880
<v Speaker 1>And the name of the restaurant is the least creative

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and thus one of my favorite names for It's just

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a bakery that has really good torta, Mister Torta. It's

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:51.279
<v Speaker 1>literally called Mexico Bakery, and you should go there if

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you're in the San Jose area.

0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:56.840
<v Speaker 2>All right, well, there you go, Pack twelve South Mountain

0:52:56.880 --> 0:53:01.840
<v Speaker 2>West West in the friggin' books. Thanks for listening to

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:04.399
<v Speaker 2>the show. Don't forget. You can find our live show

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<v Speaker 2>It is the same weekend. I check this up as

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<v Speaker 2>the Big ten ten K.

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Five K, ten K, ten K. I guess that would

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<v Speaker 1>make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's a big ten, big ten K, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>go ten right.

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<v Speaker 1>And ten K is six miles six yeah, yeah, six

0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:27.960
<v Speaker 1>point two miles. And I like that the conversion big

0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 1>ten fourteen teams ten k six point two miles. I

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:35.879
<v Speaker 1>know it's a different system. It's a different unit of length.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the metric system. I like that. There's number of confusion.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you for that, no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to add nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>feels like King Hippo played nose tackle for Utah. It's

0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:23.680
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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the recruiting for Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, on that note, for that guy seated again

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