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Speaker 2: Ill for me, I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy?

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Speaker 1: For Dake Edith state is that whoo whoom?

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Speaker 2: And now then and tie, Welcome back to the solid

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Speaker 2: verbal Boys and girls. My name is Ty hilden Brandt,

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Speaker 2: joining me as always and actually actually seated directly to

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Speaker 2: my left. Yeah, the man the Nith, Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 1: Life is good? You came all the way to my apartment.

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Speaker 1: We're in Brooklyn right now to record because we're double recording,

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Speaker 1: so by the time you listen to this, the other

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Speaker 2: I believe that's R.

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Speaker 1: Charley. Yeah, we're recording in New York. One because we

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Speaker 1: like each other, we like hanging out, we're pals. And

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Speaker 1: two we're recording our nineties Internet and Computers completely in

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Speaker 1: one thousand percent off topic show with Bill Barr. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's right after we record this, That's right. So we're

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Speaker 1: knocking at least two shows out in one one sitting

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Speaker 1: and life is good. We're doing Pack twelve South Pack

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Speaker 1: twelve Seuth and the Mountain West West. I believe I

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Speaker 1: do like that there's a west in Mountain that's that's fun.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like you're It's not quite legends and leaders fun,

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Speaker 2: it's in the same vein.

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Speaker 1: But yes, I'm excited to get out to the West Coast.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of Packed twelve South thoughts. It

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Speaker 1: both for the better and for the more comical and mysterious.

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Speaker 1: So I'm I'm happy. I'm getting a little hungry. We're

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Speaker 1: but I'm ready. I have a lot of thoughts. I

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Speaker 1: this was my initial thought because I like to think

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Speaker 1: about the divisions. We talked about Fatlantic, We talked about

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Speaker 1: the Southeastern Conference East in terms of the missing Olsen twins,

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Speaker 1: I was trying to think about what the PAC twelve

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Speaker 1: South represents to me, and I was just cycling through

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Speaker 1: Mike Tyson's punch out opponents because there is that clear hierarchy.

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Speaker 1: Sure of Mike Tyson was a use aka mister dream.

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Speaker 1: as far as saying, I think Khalil Tait is don

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Speaker 1: Flamenco don Flamenco. Yeah, just that one huge uppercut. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what else Arizona has that scares me, but

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Speaker 1: that uppercut is quite the upper.

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Speaker 1: If you wanted to talk me into Khlil Tap being

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Speaker 2: The disappearing act was a little challenging, yes for Great Tiger.

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Speaker 1: But but that big thing to me is everybody has.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's not one note, but there is that comical vulnerability

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Speaker 1: there is a lot of soda Popinski.

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Speaker 2: YEP. This year it's going to be broader all things

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll just focus on nineties Internet and how it

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Speaker 2: Pack twelve South is where we're starting now. You you

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Speaker 1: I'm the only Pack twelve fan in New York. I'm

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Speaker 2: Boy, and you're an endangered species. You're from this part

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Speaker 1: It just means a little, a little, a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So to Pop Penski right that there is this weird

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Speaker 2: My point is that it's just like a lot lower

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Speaker 1: Everything is always it seems to be like dramatic off season.

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Speaker 2: But I think you're right, and given the talent, given

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Speaker 1: So here's here's the quarterback issue. Obviously people have and

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Speaker 1: Here's the great news again, if you're a USC fan,

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Speaker 2: That play is not a strength for Texas.

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Speaker 1: No, not at all. Washington State's breaking a new quarterback situation.

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Speaker 1: I think they go nine and three.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair. Yeah, I think that's fair.

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Speaker 2: As we enter twenty eighteen. Sure, all right, where do

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Speaker 1: Utah, Colorado. Oh, let's go to Utah. Let's go to Utah.

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Speaker 2: Utah, all right, big ugly quarterback situation is not bad now.

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Speaker 2: he Tyler Huntley was hurt a little bit last year.

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Speaker 1: With Huntley, there's a lot of promise in a way

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Speaker 2: I think all things considered, Utah has in a pretty

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Speaker 1: Oregon or whoever think they can just walk in and

432
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Speaker 1: be more talented than and then they just sort of

433
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Speaker 1: get whooped up a little bit. And so I am

434
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Speaker 1: I am looking forward to watching Utah. It's hard to

435
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Speaker 1: see them with this schedule winning more than seven or eight.

436
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 2: That being said, yeah, if you replay each of our

437
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 2: last ten years of pre exact game, it's the exact same. Yeah,

438
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 2: it's the exact same Because I'm going through I'm the

439
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: same exercise. I'm counting out all right, when and when

440
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Speaker 2: I get to seven, Yeah, that I feel pretty good about.

441
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 2: In my head, that means nine.

442
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

443
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 2: From Utah and Kyle that always means at least eight

444
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 2: maybe nine.

445
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Utah's sort of puts the no in November though,

446
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: where you get super excited about them through Halloween, and

447
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden like heh yeah, they're seven

448
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: and five, eight and far Like, it's just I don't

449
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 1: think they have the depth necessarily. I don't think they

450
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: have these special players on it that will be the issue. Yeah,

451
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: the special players on offense, I think is going to

452
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: be the limiting factor.

453
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: All right, from Utah, then let's go to Arizona.

454
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. Let's talk about a special offensive player.

455
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: Let's talk about a special offensive player. You and I

456
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: had an informal discussion before we hit record. Mm hm,

457
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Speaker 2: who's the best player in the Pac twelve South?

458
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably Khalil Tate, But there are other people

459
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Speaker 1: that I could see making a case by you, like

460
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: Nikhil Harry might be the most single most talented player

461
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Speaker 1: at his position, not just in the conference, but in

462
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Speaker 1: the country. There are players like that, Chase Lucas also

463
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Speaker 1: at Arizona State, Bradley in a Utah. We'll see what JT.

464
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: Daniels or Stephen Carr, any of the guys on USC

465
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Speaker 1: Porter Gustin bring to the table. UCLI, I don't see

466
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Speaker 1: a special player right now. I am I am curious

467
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: but yes, I think Khalil Tate right now is he's

468
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: got to be the no brainer, pure talent.

469
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 2: He's at least your no brainer Heisman candidate in.

470
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: Kid gains averaging fifteen yards per carry like it was stupid.

471
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 2: Right the PAC twelve right. So in and of himself,

472
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: Khalil Tate makes Arizona interesting. There are other components that

473
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Speaker 2: make Arizona even more interesting. They've got a new coach,

474
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 2: Rich Rod was unceremoniously relieved of duties yes late in

475
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: the process, and they go to Kevin Someone. Is Kevin

476
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Speaker 2: Someone a different coach than Rich Rodriguez? I feel, I

477
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: mean they're different physically different people, but it feels like

478
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 2: mostly the same kind of thing. Our question, our persistent

479
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: question on this show since they announced that he was

480
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 2: going to be the guy, is how much different is

481
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,719
Speaker 2: this really going to be? How much different will this

482
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: team look from what we're used to seeing now the

483
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Speaker 2: last couple of years under Rich Rodriguez.

484
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Speaker 1: So someone brings in coordinators he's either worked with as

485
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Speaker 1: recently as last year or recently as in a few

486
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: years ago. Marcel Yates he retains from rich Rod's staff

487
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: as defensive coordinator running the four two five he had successful.

488
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Speaker 1: I think the talent level on Arizona's defense has been

489
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Speaker 1: super disappointing. Like I don't think it's up to par

490
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Speaker 1: as for competing for the Pac twelve South recently. They

491
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: had a couple of years, you know, you remember Scooby

492
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: Wright destroying worlds, running that sort of fun, interesting, unpredictable

493
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: three three five under Jeff Castile, where that defense was

494
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 1: a nice compliment to the offense. They were fast and

495
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: unpredictable defense, like Colin Schooler, who was probably a freshman

496
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: All American last year. And I think it's older brother

497
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: plays or yeah, I think older brothers at Oregon. And

498
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: I really like the idea of Arizona having a fast,

499
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: fun defense with what there should be able to recruit

500
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: from southern California, but the talent isn't there yet, especially upfront.

501
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: The good news is even if they're giving up thirty

502
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: eight forty one points, they're probably scoring forty five points.

503
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: They can drop a bunch of those digits. And it's

504
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: Khalil Tate. You know, he got beat up near the

505
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: end of last season and wasn't as effective, But effective

506
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: Khalil Tate is about the scariest thing in the country

507
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 1: outside of Bryce Love.

508
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 2: Maybe we have seen Kevin Someone in a situation fairly

509
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Speaker 2: recently where he had a dynamic quarterback. He just wrote

510
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Speaker 2: that uarters.

511
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: That's going to be the talking point is can Kevin

512
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: Someone do for Khalil Tate what he did for Johnny Manzil.

513
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: He was successful for a finite moment in time. He

514
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 2: was very successful having a dynamic player at quarterback, who

515
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 2: could run, who could throw, who could just make things interesting.

516
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: And so as Khalil Tate goes, so will Arizona's offense.

517
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: Probably so will Arizona's team, and probably will I think

518
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: this new look Kevin someone Era, given where Texas A

519
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: and M was when he.

520
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Speaker 1: Left here, here would be my concern about that line

521
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: of talking. Speaking I don't know English. Johnny Manzel had

522
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: an NFL offensive line in front of him. Arizona does

523
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: not have that in front of They're fine, but they

524
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: don't have it in front of the.

525
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: Tate whatever receiver Mike Evans.

526
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: Ryan Swope like, there was serious, serious talents surrounding Johnny Manziel,

527
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: Which is not to say that it wasn't Johnny Manziel

528
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: doing it, but it was Johnny Manzel taking advantage and

529
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: being put into a situation to maximize his own talents.

530
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: I like the Arizona receivers. There's no Mike Evans. I

531
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: like Sean Brown and Tony Allison, They're not quite Mike Evans.

532
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: I like JJ Taylor a whole bunch. He's one of

533
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 1: my just in terms of watching a player, JJ Taylor.

534
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: He's tiny, He's got one of the most ridiculous first

535
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,479
Speaker 1: steps of any running backs in the country. He's going

536
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: to get beat up and that might be soak and wet.

537
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: That's that's sort of a concern of mine. So that

538
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: almost makes what Khalil Tate's ceiling more impressive to me,

539
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: because he is that one man wrecking where we saw

540
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: it against Wazoo last year, we sagt against Colorado and

541
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: UCLA and USCA putting up stupid numbers. He is a gamer.

542
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: I am. I'm not sold on the Johnny Manzel progression

543
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: of just absurd every week.

544
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I and look, I don't mean to draw

545
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: a direct comparison between the no, but it's really they're

546
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 2: different players. But Kevin someone's been in that situation where

547
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: he's had a really dynamic player at quarterback, and he

548
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: was able to use that to his advantage. It actually

549
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: kind of fell apart when Manziel left. Yeah, he needs

550
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: that guy a quarterback. Just to remind people of Khalil

551
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: Tate's numbers form a year, please.

552
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: I'm ready.

553
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: You know this has no real bearing on what happens

554
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, but just a tip of the hat

555
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: to Khalil Tate.

556
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

557
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: Fifteen hundred and thirty yards on the ground with twelve

558
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: touchdowns and.

559
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: He didn't start this season that court. You know, we

560
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: didn't start the season playing quarterback at Brandon Dawkins did.

561
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: And sixty two percent of his passes completion fifteen hundred

562
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: and ninety one yards passing in fourteen touchdowns, nine interceptions.

563
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: They'll need to improve upon, sure, all right, but still

564
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: a dynamic player, really fun player to watch if you care.

565
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: As we've been framing this out on all of our

566
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: previews shows, if you if you are looking for a

567
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: reason to care, just broadly about the PAC twelve South,

568
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: Khalil takes a pretty big one. Yeah, get used to

569
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: that name if you're not already familiar with it.

570
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely stay up late for Khalil Tate's that's my bumpers.

571
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: I like that very good. Yeah late for Tate. I

572
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: don't have too much to add other than it worries

573
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: me that whenever you have to say, oh, the defense

574
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: has to improve to below average, that is troubling because

575
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: they were a bismal last year.

576
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: And well, let me let me ask you this question

577
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: because at the last show when we talked about the

578
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: Big twelve, Yeah, we were throwing out numbers. Top forty

579
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: seven for Oklahoma would be good, top forty five for

580
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: someone else, top sixty eight, top what would be good

581
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: for Arizona?

582
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: Given I think they finished around ninety fifth and S

583
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: and P plus defense. So you're asking me what the

584
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: defense needs to finish. Give the offense enough runway to

585
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: win games more often than not, because you know they

586
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: feel six and six, seven and five ish to me,

587
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: they need to have they need to feel the top seventy.

588
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: Seventies, Yeah, seventy seventy five, somewhere.

589
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: In that range. And schedule wise, quarterback wise, I know

590
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: they miss do they miss Washington? They do miss Washington,

591
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: miss Washing so that's nice. But they do have Oregon.

592
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: They have Oregon at home. They go to Wazoo BYU Houston,

593
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: Southern Utah, Oregon State to d USC to start out

594
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: the season at Houston. I would be pretty worried about

595
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: that was a close game recently. And I really like

596
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: Derek King at quarterback. If we're talking about a special

597
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: quarterback or potentially a special quarterback who can take advantage

598
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: of a lackluster defense, Derek King maybe that name. And

599
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: otherwise road trip wise, going to Oregon State to Wazoo

600
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: to UCLA. Going to the UCLA is not all that difficult,

601
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: but it just isn't I schedule is fine. I just

602
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: it's faced out pretty well. For being honest, tape gets hurt.

603
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: It's just it to me, it's too much. I know

604
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: people are talking about Arizona as a wild card in

605
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: the South. It's too much on his shoulders eyes, that's true.

606
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: And even if you know Johnny Manziel got hurt, there

607
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: were other options for Texas A and M and Nolman Zone.

608
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: You're you're always going to get above average offense. But

609
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: that's literally always above average, and that's for better or worse.

610
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Speaker 2: Well, as khuil Take goes, so will Arizona. Yeah, I

611
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: think that's fair to say, let's stay in the state

612
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: of Arizona, let's and let's talk about ASU. ASU went

613
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Speaker 2: seven to five a year ago. They have also changed

614
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: out their coaching situation. I think you described it accurately

615
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: at the top of the show, where they've ripped it

616
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Speaker 2: down to the studs and entrusted it. Now the rebuild

617
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Speaker 2: to a guy from ESPN. Yep, Herm Edwards who came in,

618
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: was a bit confused in his introductory press.

619
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Speaker 1: I don't know what Herm is like. I don't know

620
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: what Herm is doing in that Like, I don't know

621
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Speaker 1: what he's saying, but I don't know what. Like is

622
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: he crazy or crazy like a fox? Yeah, that's the thing, right,

623
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: Is he just dressing up obvious things in a weird

624
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: way to just have fun with it. I don't know.

625
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not ready to say what Herm

626
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: Edwards is doing is all that different or weird? He's

627
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: just dressing it up different.

628
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: If Herm Edwards would have left his post at ESPN

629
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: and announced to the world maybe on Twitter, I am

630
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: going to go on a motivational speaking tour.

631
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Speaker 1: The most sense, I would scroll past it on Twitter

632
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: without thinking because like, yeah, of course, of.

633
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: Course, right, he's a very very cogent, powerful influential speaker.

634
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: He grabs your attention. Sure that has to stand for something,

635
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: maybe very little thing as it relates to coaching. I

636
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: don't know what else he's doing here, though, I think

637
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: he could probably motivate the troops his strategy of upending

638
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: the existing model and starting anew at asu as you know,

639
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: maybe it's the most revolutionary thing to hit college football

640
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: in a decade.

641
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: I think he's just describing something that already exists in

642
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: a different way.

643
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: He's pulling an apple, is what he's doing.

644
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, absolutely, he's making a big deal over removing

645
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: the headphone jack when other places had removed the headphone

646
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: jack already. But he with his platform and going on

647
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Speaker 1: TV all the time, and you know, having that big personality,

648
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: it feels different and wacky, when in fact he's probably

649
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: just talking about it in a slightly different way. Here's

650
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: the great news for herm Edwards. He does have an

651
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: offensive and defensive coordinator after losing both his offensive and

652
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator after staying after saying they were going to stay,

653
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: So that would have been what Phil Bennett and the

654
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: new coach at Louisiana. What's its face? Billy Napier, Right,

655
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: So I apologize to Louisiana. What's its face? Great news.

656
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: Manny Wilkins is an underrated national quarterback, probably a top

657
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: fifteen quarterback in the country, twenty quarterback in the country.

658
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: Really good. The running game I don't think is going

659
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: to be all that great, But I really like the

660
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: combination of Nikhil Harry and Kyle Williams. I think that's

661
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: one of the better duos in the country, mostly because

662
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: of Nikhil Harry, but also because it gives them options downfield.

663
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: The line in front of him, I think is pretty good.

664
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Speaker 1: And Arizona State on the other side of the ball,

665
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: they're going I believe they're going to a three three five. Correct,

666
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: That's correct, They're going to a three three five And

667
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: they may have the single best cover corner in the

668
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: conference in Chase Lucas. So in terms of pieces, in

669
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: terms of what Herm Edwards can do, and we're not

670
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Speaker 1: necessarily only talking about this season going out and recruiting.

671
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: Look what we helped do, whether it's we or the

672
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: previous staff, whatever. Look what Chase Lucas has been able

673
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: to do and thrive with at Arizona State and Tempe.

674
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Speaker 1: You know, look at what we're able to develop. Look

675
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: at Manny Wilkins is you know, by all accounts like

676
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: has a great story, a great dude, whatever, and he's

677
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: thriving in Tempe. So there are down to those studs.

678
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: There are studs.

679
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: There, there are actual studs. And to your point, just

680
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: to build upon what you said about the receiving corps,

681
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: it's not just us that feels good about that receiving cores.

682
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: They were so confident in their own receiving corps. Jalen

683
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 2: Henry or excuse me, Jalen Harvey, who was their third

684
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: leading receiver, was moved to defense. That's how good they

685
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: feel about their depth on thet the I thought you

686
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: were trying to say Jalen Strong and I was get

687
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: all mixed up.

688
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, your.

689
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: Jalen Strong would be a great addition as well. But

690
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: this is a different one, and they've moved them to

691
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: defense because they feel pretty good about their depth out

692
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: at the wide receiver spot. So this is, as you said,

693
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: a team being ripped down to the studs with at

694
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Speaker 2: least studs on which they can build something moving forward.

695
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Speaker 1: Now, tricky, tricky September. Yeah, Michigan State, San Diego State,

696
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: and Washington are three of the best twenty defenses in

697
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: the country, and they have them in a row, two

698
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: of which on the road. San Diego State. Who san

699
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: Diego State just relaxes and beats pack twelve teams. That's

700
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Speaker 1: what San Diego State does. Michigan State should have a

701
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: very good defense, Washington should have an excellent defense. Beyond that, though,

702
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: it's still pretty tricky. They have Stanford and USC in

703
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: sort of consecutive weeks.

704
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 2: Let's look at the back half of this freaking schedule.

705
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: Look at this schedule. They get a bye week on

706
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: October thirteenth. What will you do on your bye WEEKDN

707
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: just chill, may play some video games.

708
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: Go for a run, I mean Phoenix and Tempe finally

709
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: becomes like inhabitable right thirteen.

710
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: But then after that Stanford, by the way, also off

711
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: a bye week, going into their matchup on a Thursday

712
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: night in Tempe October eighteenth. Yeah, the following week at USC,

713
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: the week after that back home against Utah after that

714
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: kind of awesome let down, look ahead Sandwich or just

715
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 2: a regular sandwich spot at home November tenth against UCLA,

716
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: who maybe pretty fisty, like figure it out by then

717
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: Wi Man, come on, here we go. And then ASU

718
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 2: closes out the season on the road, back to back

719
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 2: at Oregon at Arizona rivalry game. That's a tough freaking schedule.

720
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Speaker 1: And that's going to be a pretty good Oregon defense.

721
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: A week before Khalil takes the.

722
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: Over under for wins for ash was four and a half.

723
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say it's safe to say they're not

724
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Speaker 1: going to a bowl. I can't see it. I just can't.

725
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: It's too much.

726
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: If they beat you TSA, that's one not beating Michigan State.

727
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: It's at home, it's in Tempe.

728
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: I don't think they're beating them that early.

729
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: Michigan State is traditionally under Mark d Antonio, a grower

730
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: rather than a shower.

731
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking fair enough, but you know

732
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: I count these up here. Getting to five is tough.

733
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Speaker 2: I be inclined to go under.

734
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Speaker 1: Okay, so they could San Diego State. I think they're

735
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: hiring their Their new defensive coordinator was last year San

736
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: Diego State defensive coordinator. So maybe there's like a little

737
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: bit of an edge there. So we give UTSA on

738
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Speaker 1: the road. It's not terribly difficult to play at San

739
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: Diego State, one two, Oregon State, Colorado and they sneak

740
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: either Utah, Ucla or Arizona. Maybe that's five. I have

741
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: them at five and seven.

742
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no bowl. I don't know we're in agreement here,

743
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: No bowl. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go three and nine,

744
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: four and eight. Wow, Okay, how do you get the five?

745
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: Five is a tough, tough, tough ask.

746
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: So if if my my level of success is generally

747
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: determined by the combination of quarterback and defense, and I

748
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: think they have a good quarterback, and I the defense

749
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: is probably below average, So that doesn't feel like.

750
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: A bowl no to me, not a bowl team. All right,

751
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 2: let's go to UCLA. Let's get this cat out of

752
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: the bag. Here. A lot of news in the off season, right,

753
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 2: Jim Morric gone.

754
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: Twelve million dollars.

755
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: Who will UCLA turned to to fill that void to

756
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 2: take the program forward?

757
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: Right?

758
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: Carl Derell It is our boy, Charles chip Kelly.

759
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: Charles Kelly.

760
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 2: Have we agreed that we will refer to him as

761
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: Charles chip Kelly all season long?

762
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: We have to. We've made the commitment in June.

763
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: So we just steer into it at the you don't

764
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: have to I am.

765
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: I've been the one saying it, I know, but I'm

766
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: the bigger jackass of the two of us, so and

767
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm more committed to beating a dead horse than I

768
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: will say anybody that has ever had or been on

769
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: a college football podcast. So, okay, I like to hire

770
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: a lote. I like Charles schip Kelly and what his

771
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: ceiling should be in Westwood, he will recruit better. But

772
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: I think in a similar fashion, like I wouldn't be

773
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: surprised if u CLA brought in that level of three

774
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: four star rather than four or five star like some

775
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: of Jim Morris's classes, because I think they're going to

776
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: be more judicious and they you know, Chip Kelly is

777
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: that reputation with his staff, like taking a lot of

778
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: time to do background research on recruits and stuff like that,

779
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: So I think he's going to find quote unquote his guys. Sure,

780
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: I know Chris Peterson has the the OKG are kind

781
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: of guys. Okg's guys. Chip Kelly has that very similar mindset.

782
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: So I think UCLA is going to populate that roster

783
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: really well in the long term. But we're talking about this.

784
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: Here, talking about this yere and for this year. I

785
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: think the questions that I have about UCLA are more

786
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: about where they're headed in the future. I think if

787
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: you're a UCLA fan, maybe if you're a USC fan

788
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: wondering what UCLA is going to be like in conference,

789
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: in your side of the conference a couple of years

790
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: from now, what you want to watch for at the

791
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: end of this year is does it look like they're

792
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: building towards something. Does it look like they're headed in

793
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: a positive direction? It will take them a couple of

794
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: years to implement this system to bring in the our

795
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 2: kind the guys, if you can call him that. For

796
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: the short term, though, what kind of a canvas do

797
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: we have here? And furthermore, what will that system look like?

798
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 2: This has been our question all throughout the off season.

799
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: We know what Chip Kelly looked like at Oregon, we

800
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: know what he looked like in the NFL. What kind

801
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: of system now will we see at UCLA. Will it

802
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: be such where he's trying to use his personnel to

803
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: the best of their ability and build a system around them,

804
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: or will it be truly we're starting from scratch. We're

805
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 2: going back to what I know and we're able to

806
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 2: recruit guys and trying to apply guys that fit my system.

807
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: So Chip Kelly has always been a let's figure out

808
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: what works with what we have. He has always been

809
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: that way. That's why he initially went to that system

810
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: at New Hampshire and brought it to Oregon. The important

811
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: thing if you're a UCLA fan and it's going to

812
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: be kind of a rough season, even winning games, it's

813
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: not going to be pretty because I don't think the

814
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: talent level is fully there. We talked to Bruce Felman

815
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: about this earlier in the summer. He went to some

816
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: practices and up close, he's just like, they have a

817
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: little bit of a ways to go. The great news

818
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: if you're a UCLA fan, and I sell this to

819
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: you as an Oregon fan who has spent a lot

820
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: of time watching Chip Kelly work his magic. Chip Kelly

821
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: made a lot of decidedly non NFL quarterbacks look really good.

822
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: Right now, UCLA has a true freshman coming in Dorian Robinson, Thompson,

823
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: Darrin Thompson, Robbs etr excuse me, DTR Devin Modster, who

824
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: started a couple games last year and looked pretty good

825
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: against Kansas State at times. When I say at times

826
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: it was good first half, it was a terrible second half.

827
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: And Wilton spake. Now if we run through some of

828
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: the names that I got to watch at Oregon, so

829
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: Jeremiah a solely what NFL team is he playing for?

830
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: I will yeah, he was kicked off of that team.

831
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: Justin Roper as a fifth string shredded South Florida in

832
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: the Sun Bowl and was totally serviceable. Justin Roper is

833
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: not as talented as any of the people in the

834
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: UCLA's quarterback room. Darren Thomas left a year early. Was

835
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: not a great move, but Marcus Mariota was coming in.

836
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: Darren Thomas arguably after Marcus Mariota, Oregon's most successful quarterback ever.

837
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: Haven't heard the name Darren Thomas in a long time.

838
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: So the good news is Chip Kelly is going to

839
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: put whoever starts at quarterback in a favorable position. The

840
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: receivers are pretty good. I've been on the Theo Howard

841
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: train forever. I don't know he'll actually be good, but

842
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: he has the talent and has the speed. I know.

843
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: They bring in Chase Coda from up in Oregon. He

844
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 1: is like an Oregon legacy and a big deal was made.

845
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: He was a big time recruit. So there is some

846
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: talent receiver. I don't love their offensive line. I like

847
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: a couple of guys on defense more in the back end.

848
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: Darnay Holmes calbass is high should be a really good

849
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: cover corner for UCLA. And we'll see with Jalen Phillips

850
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: came in with a lot of hype. But I am

851
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: a huge fan of Jerry Asinarro, their defensive coordinator, although

852
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: he hasn't actually been a full fledged defensive coordinator in

853
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: a long time. I like their staff a lot. I

854
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: like what's happening in Westwood. I am not positive and

855
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: we've talked about this before. This is a long term thing.

856
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 1: Is Chip Kelly two thousand and nine chip Kelly right now?

857
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

858
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: I hope so. For UCLA's fans, entertainment fan, sure, But

859
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,959
Speaker 1: UCLA's schedule is.

860
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: It's Oklahoma on the road Week two. That's not favorite.

861
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: Fresno State has maybe the best defense in the Mountain West. Yeah.

862
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: I love their middle linebacker.

863
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: Let me read through this quick. Yeah, they open up

864
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: against Cincinnati.

865
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: A quick preview. Their middle linebacker Fresno State. I think

866
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Allison whoa.

867
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: Okay, continue next week at Oklahoma, next week home against Fresno,

868
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: than a bye at Colorado, Washington at cal Arizona, Utah

869
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: on a Friday at Oregon at ASU, USC and Stanford.

870
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: It just does not there. There are no two weeks

871
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: in there unless you want to. Like even Arizona and

872
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: Utah both at home, it's you're still dealing with a

873
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: lot in those two games, UCLA will.

874
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: Pull an upset on Somebody.

875
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: Give me the team on the road that UCLA is

876
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: most likely to be, well, it will be a definite

877
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: dog against that they'll upset.

878
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 2: It could be Arizona State.

879
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: You think that, I don't think that. Well, no, okay,

880
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: they're on the road against Arizona. Say, I don't know

881
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: if they'll be a don't know if they'll be a dog.

882
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I'm saying a clear better situation is

883
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: it Oregon? No, it's hard to I know, I don't

884
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: know if they're a dog against the road. So any

885
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: of the teams, so like, they could beat Utah, I

886
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: think they could be a home dog against you. They

887
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: could beat Utah, could beat Utah.

888
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So transition year for UCLA. There's no harm in that.

889
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: I think you look for reasons to be optimistic.

890
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: That's Halloween week, by the way, Utah. So it's deep,

891
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: deeper into the season where they couldn't rhythm and understanding.

892
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: All right, I'm not prepared to make a true prediction

893
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: here on UCLA transition here. Yeah, I say that I'm

894
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: not a bowl team, not with the schedule.

895
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think they will be on that

896
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: quest for six late. I think the conversation could be

897
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, they could end up being five and six.

898
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: After the USC game.

899
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, if they beat Stanford at home, Kelly,

900
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: have a Stanford problem.

901
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: And now we've got about an hour's worth of Colorado

902
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: to talk about, right, we have a lot to deep

903
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: dive on the the monteesmobile.

904
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you on the Montese mobile.

905
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: He feels like the most average pack twelve quarterback where

906
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, he's gonna be really good, really average.

907
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stephen Montes.

908
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: It's like one step forward, one and a half steps back.

909
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: The I mean the backfield could be fun.

910
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Trevon McMillan, the Virginia Tech graduate transfer, Yeah, they

911
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: could be fun.

912
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: It's a rough schedule.

913
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: It's very difficult for me to find a reason to

914
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: care about Colorado. Wow, it's very like this was one

915
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: of the of the teams we've discussed Power five teams Colorado, if.

916
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: Not even for our boy Rich and in Bolder, longtime listener.

917
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: Is he in Boulder? I know he went to Colorado.

918
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: It's tough because in previous years there were defensive players,

919
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: especially that defensive backfield. These past few years has been really,

920
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: really good. They've populated the defense with a lot of

921
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: junior college guys. They were got awful against the run

922
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: last year, and it's hard to imagine this defense being

923
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: at all scary in any sort of improved way from

924
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: where they were last year. I Jane McIntire has been

925
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: around at receiver for a while, Mike McIntyre's son. But

926
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: I am I am finding difficulties. Let me let me

927
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: read a caption for you here please.

928
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So I gave away the game a little bit

929
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: on the first previous show we did when we talked

930
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: about the acc Atlantic excuse me for Atlantic.

931
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you.

932
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: I did buy the Phil Steel magazine, the Real Steele Dossier,

933
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: as I've referred to it, and I like going through

934
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: this because you know, say what you want. We've made

935
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: fun of Phil Steele's website, and we've made fun of

936
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: the publication. But there's a lot of stuff in here,

937
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: and he clearly puts the work in and the whole work,

938
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: and it is a great reference for idiots like Dan

939
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: and I who you're looking at a magazine right now too.

940
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: We need to try and get.

941
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: It's fair, it's home and garden rights, absolutely true, but

942
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: we need to try and port as much of this

943
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: into our brains as possible.

944
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: What I do like about Phil Steele, He's always very optimistic.

945
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: He's not cutting anyone down in these publications. Here's what

946
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 2: he says about the Colorado offense.

947
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: No, Phil, here's what I says.

948
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read now. I'm gonna read the last two sentences.

949
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 2: I like the replacements at running back and wide receiver,

950
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: while the offensive line should be more stable despite the law.

951
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 2: Is this unit underperformed last year and could actually top

952
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 2: last year's numbers? Is that not the most optimistic spin

953
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: on where Colorado's at offensively?

954
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: It also doesn't really say much.

955
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't say anything, but it's optimistic, is my point.

956
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And who's to say they underperformed, Like maybe they

957
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: just performed. Maybe that's just.

958
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but it's kind of

959
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: a compliment, kind of not kind of doesn't say much

960
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: of anything, and it actually encapsulates how I feel for

961
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: Colorado pretty accurately. I just don't know.

962
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: I see four to five wins for Colorado this year.

963
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: I think they take a step back. I just yeah,

964
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: as a program, Yeah, look.

965
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: At this freaking schedule. Colorado State at Nebraska, New Hampshire, UCLA,

966
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 2: ASU at USC at Washington homecoming.

967
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: So Colorado could beat Nebraska in week two, they could.

968
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: Nebraska might be starting a very inexperienced quarterback.

969
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: At Arizona, Washington State Utah at closing it, closing out

970
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: the year. There might be for.

971
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not putting it past Colorado to throw

972
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: some junk at junk. Yeah, yeah, to throw some like

973
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: what's the the old Mariners Jamie Jimmy Moyer. Yeah, I'm

974
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: not throwing some MacIntyre junk out the window as being

975
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: a possibility, Like I I I could see them maybe

976
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: winning the first three, winning the last couple and Oregon State.

977
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: That gets you to six right, So that would be

978
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: Colorado State, Nebraska, New Hampshire, last couple of Utah and

979
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: going to col Oregon State's a home game in the

980
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: middle of the year. That gets some to Bowl eligibility.

981
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: That's that's some Jamie moyerdge. Yeah, I'm not.

982
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: I'm not what you're saying.

983
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying some Necros, some Phil and Joe Nicro, some

984
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, some knuckles, some junk, That's what I'm saying.

985
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: You know, when they bring in like a shortstop in

986
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: the fifteenth inning when they've used up all the relievers

987
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: and the shortstop randomly throws like a couple killer curveballs.

988
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm not putting it past Colorado because I think McIntyre

989
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: is a good coach. I just talent wise on both sides.

990
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: Sides. So does this make Mike McIntyre college Football's Gabe

991
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: Kapler sort of What I'm hearing here.

992
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: Is that was did he come in and throw good pitches?

993
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: No, he brought guys in early this year to throw

994
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 2: those pitches.

995
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: Yes, that's my answer.

996
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, it's they're not too high in Colorado. No,

997
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 2: I think it's like McIntyre friend of the show, absolutely.

998
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: Friend of the show. But bowl game is gonna be

999
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: a stretch, all right?

1000
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 2: Shall we dance with the Mountain West West Division?

1001
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: Mountain West West?

1002
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Fresno State, San Diego State, UNLV, Nevada, Hawaii, and

1003
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: San Jose State.

1004
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: Here is some fantastic news. There are a number of offensive, fun,

1005
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: offensive talents in this division, and there are only of

1006
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: these six teams two good defenses. So they're gonna be numbers,

1007
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: They're going to be fun play. I think Armani Rodgers

1008
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: not an accurate quarterback by any stretch, but in terms

1009
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: of you know, he's a big dude who strides like

1010
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: he will put together he like, all of a sudden,

1011
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: you'll be watching the bottom line on ESPN and it'll

1012
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: say you and LVQB Rmani Rodgers rush for two hundred

1013
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: and fourteen yards, Like what?

1014
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: What? Who?

1015
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: Here's the great news about the actual good teams in

1016
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: this division. Fresno State returns a ton on the really

1017
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: good defense, although their coordinator from last year goes back

1018
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: to the CFL, which is not a phrase we say.

1019
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: A lot about.

1020
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: Really don't usually say that now, but Jeff Tedford has

1021
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: done a very very good job. Marcus mcmay in the

1022
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: Oregon State transfer has done a good job for them.

1023
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: San Diego State, if there is a name, it's Juwan Washington,

1024
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: who we mentioned way earlier in the spring. He could

1025
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: be with a really good offensive line and experienced offensive

1026
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 1: line in front of him, the new Donnelle Pumfrey, Rashad Penny.

1027
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: Because they San Diego State just keeps turning particular back

1028
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: baby right right, so rocky long defense, really good running back.

1029
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: San Diego State is going to threaten ten wins again.

1030
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: They just are. That's It's one of the more underrated

1031
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: national consistent stories with San Diego State right now is

1032
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: that they are just a threat for double digits every

1033
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: year with that combination. Beyond that Nevada, I'm not buying Hawaii, sorry,

1034
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: nik Rolovich. No. San Jose State, Eh, nothing there for me.

1035
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: Maybe interesting skill talent we have in our sheet here

1036
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 2: for yeah, San Jose State.

1037
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're healthier. San Jose State has fallen off since

1038
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: what David fails. Mike McIntyre, it's a deep cut. They've

1039
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: fallen off significantly. I'm not in on the Spartans, although

1040
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: still San Jose the home of my favorite torta in America.

1041
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: Your favorite torda.

1042
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: And the name of the restaurant is the least creative

1043
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: and thus one of my favorite names for It's just

1044
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: a bakery that has really good torta, Mister Torta. It's

1045
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: literally called Mexico Bakery, and you should go there if

1046
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: you're in the San Jose area.

1047
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 2: All right, well, there you go, Pack twelve South Mountain

1048
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 2: West West in the friggin' books. Thanks for listening to

1049
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 2: the show. Don't forget. You can find our live show

1050
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: if you're going to be in Chicago August the eleventh.

1051
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: It is the same weekend. I check this up as

1052
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 2: the Big ten ten K.

1053
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: Five K, ten K, ten K. I guess that would

1054
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: make sense.

1055
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: If it's a big ten, big ten K, you gotta

1056
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: go ten right.

1057
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: And ten K is six miles six yeah, yeah, six

1058
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: point two miles. And I like that the conversion big

1059
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: ten fourteen teams ten k six point two miles. I

1060
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: know it's a different system. It's a different unit of length.

1061
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: It's the metric system. I like that. There's number of confusion.

1062
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: I like that's what I'm saying.

1063
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for that, no problem.

1064
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: I'm glad to add nothing.

1065
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: So maybe maybe you're running in the race. Yeah, you know,

1066
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe you're looking for something to do.

1067
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna be in Chicago the night before because these races,

1068
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 2: they're always early. Coming out to the live show. Come

1069
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 2: to the soliverble tickets dot com tickets still available, Good

1070
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: seats still available. Come on out, meet meet the for ballers,

1071
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: meet us.

1072
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: The Rubinstein contingent at this show.

1073
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: You've got to know. You've got a small army coming in.

1074
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: My wife is from Chicago, So if you are at

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Speaker 1: all interested in being around Rubens, my parents are coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah from la. I don't know why this would be

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Speaker 1: attractive to you, but I think you should come. I

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Speaker 1: think you should come to the Chicago Live Show. If

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Speaker 1: you're in Toledo, if you're in Madison, if you're in

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to Mattoon, Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Matun Yeah, hometown will Each Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. If you're you gotta come out to the live show.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a great time.

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Speaker 2: If you're in Canada, drive down.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, come to Yeah, it's not Canada's not

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Speaker 1: that far.

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Speaker 2: It's only like a twenty five hours ride from Toronto.

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Speaker 1: What doesn't It's like Hamilton. What's the city right, Regina,

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Speaker 1: I believe is right by Detroit. Okay, it comes down there.

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Speaker 1: You can get certain parts of Canada. Chicago not that long.

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Speaker 1: I never thought I'd say Regina on the show.

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Speaker 1: I yeah, Subreddit are slash Solid verbal. We keep these

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Speaker 1: conversations going. It gets even weirder. I'm now regretting. It

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Speaker 1: feels like King Hippo played nose tackle for Utah. It's

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Speaker 1: entirely possible comparison because there is that island, the Islands,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of the recruiting for Utah.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, on that note, for that guy seated again

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Speaker 2: to my left, Dan Rinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand. We

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Speaker 2: will catch you all in a few days. Talks, more

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Speaker 2: conferences here in the build up to the twenty eighteen season.

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