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Speaker 2: I'm doing good? Man, doing good. We are just under

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Speaker 2: everyone's trying to get out their final takes. There, Okay,

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Speaker 2: the t's dotting the i's on everything. You're perfect draft, Staedge.

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Speaker 2: do they say, dominate your league in twenty twenty five? Welsh?

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Speaker 1: Well, and also it is like real draft time. I

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Speaker 1: know there's crazy is obviously, like you know, best balls

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Speaker 1: have got your flex league. I just completed my flex league,

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Speaker 1: our dear friend Jake Sealey industry leagues. I got some

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Speaker 1: ringers in mind. Would you like to hear the team

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Speaker 2: Jack who did that? Who took a wattle Dolan?

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Speaker 1: Jalad Just wait for the prop show for me and Ericson.

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Speaker 2: Up?

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Speaker 1: Is who you keep this? You've kept this name? My friend?

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Speaker 3: Who?

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Speaker 1: Tf is Welsh on the line? What's up?

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Speaker 5: Brother?

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Speaker 2: Hey man?

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Speaker 4: So I'm in a slow draft in Joeyp's Black Book League.

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Speaker 5: Right now.

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Speaker 4: I have the chance to take Samson, but I'm a

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good question. You always sound like right now,

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Speaker 2: you have the Browns offense where I'm not actually sure

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Speaker 2: be pretty high scoring. I wouldn't rule Sampson out completely

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's play this game. Then we'll just do it.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think Judkins and where do you think

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, then I'll try to translate it because I

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Speaker 2: Okay, So for me, I would say that both guys

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Speaker 2: So I'll say that Judkins went somewhere between like picks

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Speaker 1: talk to Jay. Jay, what up? What do you have

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Speaker 2: Is that what that is there?

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Speaker 1: We go, oh, yeah, it's like a head. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: like someone with a You gotta unmute the mic, though,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna put the book over your eyes. All right,

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Speaker 1: you don't have it figured out, You come back when

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Speaker 1: you have it figured out. Bryce, or for a question

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Speaker 1: in the chat too, Yeah, exactly what Bryce?

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys that we're doing doing good?

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Speaker 3: Dude?

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Speaker 1: What you got?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 4: I just inherited a team in a hen Man half

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Speaker 4: PPR superflex with tight end premium scoring. We at three

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Speaker 4: I got Jared Goff for my eleventh round pick and

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Speaker 1: And you got you gotta give us a couple even

432
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Speaker 1: if it doesn't make sense, like like if that's that's

433
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Speaker 1: the only one we're gonna say yes? Like who would

434
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,880
Speaker 1: even be like perceivably another option or two?

435
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Speaker 4: The only other person that I would other than the

436
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Speaker 4: two I mentioned, the only other person that I would

437
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 4: consider keeping is maybe Mike Evans, but I'd have to

438
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 4: give up my third round for him.

439
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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So the question is like are we comfortable

440
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 1: with keeping? This is just this has to turn into

441
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Speaker 1: a Rice versus Evans question then, because what round was Rice?

442
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 4: Rice?

443
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: Would I give up? Round seven?

444
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 1: Okay? Seven? All right? So Evans round three? Rice? Round

445
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 1: seven with potential looming suspension? What do you think?

446
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 2: I think that the Rice price is palatable. I think

447
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: if it was higher, I'd probably more bearish on it.

448
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 2: But round seven, I mean, if he's healthy on the

449
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 2: field and playing for a certain amount of weeks, like

450
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 2: he should be able to return that I think that

451
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: Evans is definitely the safer pick. I think that. I mean,

452
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: that's I don't think that that's really up for debate.

453
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 2: Mike Evans basically goes in round three of most drafts

454
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: anyway in a normal twelve team league, and I'm expecting

455
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 2: him to think we talked about on the wide Receiver

456
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 2: Tiers show. I just said, Mike Evans locked and loaded

457
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 2: wide receiver two. Really don't have any reservations. Yeah, he's

458
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 2: a little bit older, and they brought in some other

459
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: guys like Buka, but Govin still coming off the injury.

460
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: McMillan up and down rookie season. We'll see how much

461
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 2: he eats into Mike Evans. We still got Baker Mayfield,

462
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 2: and you know, Mike Evans has weeks where he absolutely explodes.

463
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: So I think it's a risk reward type of you

464
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: have to kind of weigh then ask yourself that question.

465
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: I would have just I would embrace the risk with

466
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: Rice personally, just for a round seven. I think it

467
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: was more expensive. I probably shy away. But if you

468
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 2: just want to walk in the points with Mike Evans

469
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: and not deal with Rice, which is going to be,

470
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 2: you know, probably a headache throughout the season, also a

471
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: chance that it could work out in your favorites. Swing

472
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 2: for the swing for the fences with Rushie Rice, which

473
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: I usually try to encourage people to do in fantasy.

474
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 2: You know, upside wins championships, and Rice has a ton

475
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 2: of upside, especially for a round seven keeper.

476
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Speaker 1: Also, not to like be cold watery about this, but

477
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get I mean, you are inheriting a team.

478
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to guess Jared Goff and George Kittle aren't

479
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: exactly the best keepers that people are going to be keeping.

480
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: So there is a scenario where you might be stepping

481
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: into a situation where your team isn't exactly built to

482
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Speaker 1: win this year. So a having a guy like Rashid Rice,

483
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Speaker 1: assuming you get to keep him for the following season,

484
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: is fantastic because you you know, suspension would be gone,

485
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 1: and taking a guy at a lower cost for a

486
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: team that might not be massively competitive. You want as

487
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: many picks at the top as you can to try

488
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: to hit on some you know, to hit on some

489
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: guys you know. So like the third round to me,

490
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. Again, I'm not trying to say that

491
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: this is definitely a rebuilding, not gonna win team, but

492
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess it's probably in the lower because that's

493
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: its a ten team league, a ten team league, and

494
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: keeping Golf and Kittle that's not the best. So give

495
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: yourself as many opportunities to get great players later and

496
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 1: keep Rice and Rice will be a great keeper the

497
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: following season, you know, as long as all is good.

498
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I do think that Rice when it

499
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: comes to just like what his projection is this year.

500
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: I know we never really talked about him specifically with

501
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: his situation, but I do think it's going to be

502
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six will be the year where Rice actually

503
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: does kind of like live up to all of the

504
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: hype per se. I know, I was getting kind of

505
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 2: concerned about his aid when it was rising. I think

506
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: like a month or two ago before all of the

507
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: before we thought he wasn't going to get suspended at all,

508
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: and then Chefter drops the bomb He's go get suspended

509
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: and now he's not gonna get suspended for the first

510
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: four weeks, but now the concern is maybe it's going

511
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: to be a longer suspension more to six to eight games.

512
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: I was reading some reports that suggested that the NFL

513
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: is getting tired of these speeding violations and they're going

514
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 2: to try to set Rice as an example in terms

515
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: of okay, well we're not messing going, you know, related

516
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: to what happened with Henry Ruggs, and that situation was

517
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: obviously terrible and what happened with Rice also a very

518
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: terrible situation. So I think that they may try to

519
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 2: lay down the hammer here with him and knock him

520
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 2: for a signal.

521
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: Also five years, like five years probation, Like yeah, it's

522
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: severe enough that the NFL isn't just going to be

523
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: like you know, like Jordan Addison. That's why I have

524
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: always believed whenever it was going to be, it wasn't

525
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: going to be four games. It's six to eight in

526
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: my mind, and that's what worries me. So it's like

527
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, hey, I'm gonna get she Rice. So

528
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: the first four this is awesome. It's like, well, it's

529
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: not if he's going to be then suspended for eight

530
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: you know, and then it's like maybe you'll get him

531
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: for the playoffs if you're lucky. It's like taking an

532
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: injured player that's going to be out for two months.

533
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. When I posted a video about this for on

534
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 2: the Fantasy Pros YouTube channel, just kind of talking about

535
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: there is like a very fine best case scenario with

536
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: him where it's he plays the first four weeks, immediately

537
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: get suspended after that, and then he's back for you

538
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: during your playoff run and then you also hope that, Okay,

539
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: he took some time off, he was able to kind

540
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: of get back to where he was, because you also

541
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: have to remember he is coming off a season any

542
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: injury like That's another thing too that I think during

543
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: training camp it seemed like he was all fine, but

544
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: then all the suspension cup kind of took over that

545
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: discourse when it came to Rashie Rice. So yeah, a

546
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: very confusing player overall, and I think you really need

547
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: to weigh where he goes in your drafts. I think

548
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: that there's an opportunity cost with him where it does

549
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: make sense, but you kind of have to have a

550
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: plan with him. It's actually interesting somebody recommended you draft

551
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: rushing Rice and Jordan Addison at the same time, and

552
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: you have Addison fill in once Rice gets suspended when

553
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: he comes off of his suspension. So there are a

554
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: couple of ways where you can fill in that hole

555
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: that Rice is going to leave on your roster if

556
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: you do it in the correct way, if he falls

557
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 2: significantly enough. But I would say round seven, I think

558
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: that that is a fair price.

559
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I'm going to do that.

560
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe if you get to suspended guys.

561
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a bunch of suspen Like, hey, by the way,

562
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: also took Chris Godwin. That was cool. And it's just like, na, like,

563
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm good with all of that.

564
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: No, no, no, And I totally get that it's it's.

565
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: But you could do it at four and five, your

566
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: wide receiver four and five. That makes it interesting if

567
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: there were bench guys.

568
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, But it goes back to the point that I

569
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: made I think a few minutes ago, where I think

570
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: that the Rice season that we all want him to

571
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: have statistically is probably gonna happen in twenty twenty six,

572
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: not this year, even if he does have flashes again,

573
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 2: and you're hoping if you draft him that it is

574
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: during the fantasy postseason when he comes back. And the

575
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: other thing I want to point out as well with Rice,

576
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: because I think it's worth the discussion, is when you

577
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: draft him, you're not going to be able to probably

578
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: trade him, right because who's gonna like, well, it's like

579
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 2: who's going to go approach you and be like, hey,

580
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: I'll buy Rushi Rice for you, knowing he's gonna get

581
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: spended for like eight games and if they try to

582
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: trade for him, it's going to be for nothing. So

583
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: once you draft Rushie Rice, like you're you're kind of

584
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 2: like locked in. I feel like, I don't know if

585
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: you disagree with that, but that's something that I was

586
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: also thinking about where you have to commit to. Okay,

587
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: he's going to be part of my draft planning, my

588
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: draft team this year, and I totally understand if you

589
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: decide I yeah, no, this seems like a headache because, yeah,

590
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: there's going to be hurdles you're gonna have to overcome

591
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: when you put them on your team.

592
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a you made your bed, you're gonna lie

593
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: in it situation. The only thing that's going to happen

594
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: is like he plays four games, he gets it suspended

595
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: six and then around like week eight or nine, some

596
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: teams try to start coming around being like hey, I'll

597
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: get you Rashi Rice for you and I'll eat a

598
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: week or two, and it's like nothings Like that's what

599
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,480
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Speaker 2: on trying to move the ball methodically down the field,

648
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Speaker 2: but the minute that I throw an interception or make

649
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: a mistake, it just becomes full out engage. Eight every

650
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: single play on defense, four verts every single play on offense.

651
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: I just get really frustrated, and that's why I get

652
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: really aggressive, and that's why I start doing really dumb things.

653
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: You know, I would actually say that's probably closer to me,

654
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, But I'm a menace on defense.

655
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: That's the big problem. Like, I'm really difficult on defense.

656
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: I hate defense and mad and so yeah.

657
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: When you try to like everyone tries to do their

658
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 1: same thing. They're like, okay, you know you didn't get

659
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: my wide receiver deep, let me go my tight end middle.

660
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: Like I'm good with linebacker coverage. So defense is where

661
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: I get a lot of stuff done. Bogman is more

662
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: of a cool cucumber, but he you know, he plays

663
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: in will be the show. He's got more video games.

664
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: Well guess what, you guys can come and hang out.

665
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: You can probably use like channel points to vote. We'll

666
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: have some fun with it. We'll see who wins, and

667
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: maybe we'll do some more Madden content. But it's gonna

668
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: be an awesome day of just nothing but fantasy stuff.

669
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: So make sure you are locked in with all of us.

670
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Ribs and Cheese. Premium member

671
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: on the Fantasy Pros discord. Well, so we got dog pictures.

672
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: I always love the dog pictures. But you do have

673
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: to unmute your microphone. PSA, I'm neut your microphone to

674
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: everybody moving forward? But what's up?

675
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: What's up? No?

676
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: No, you're all good, dude.

677
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 6: So I've got a dynasty trade question, but really, EXPO

678
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 6: is a re draft question. Sure, so potential trade that

679
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 6: I would be giving up to more Chase, which is

680
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 6: the big problem. Hang up, I'm having in the deal

681
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 6: and trying to decide if it would be worth it.

682
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 6: So it'd be giving up Chase Hawkinson in A twenty

683
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 6: seven first, which should be late I'm contender. But the

684
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 6: other side of the deal would be getting Brock Bowers,

685
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 6: Drake London and Garrett Wilson. So I know Chase is

686
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 6: pretty clear the one to one receiver this year, so

687
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 6: kind of just trying to figure out how big of

688
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 6: a drop from Chase to London. I know a lot

689
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 6: of people are high on London, especially at Fantasy Pros

690
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 6: this year as with his potential upside. So it's a

691
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 6: ten team league and half point tightened premium. So does

692
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 6: that make it worth going to brock Bauers to give up?

693
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: On other question? Real quick? What is your other wide

694
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: receiver depth?

695
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 6: It's really good. I have Nico A. J. Brown, Olave Addison.

696
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, but okay, so this is interesting. I'm

697
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: like him in and Han here because that's a situation

698
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: where he's already got demons at wide receiver and you're

699
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: just going to add more depth of them. I mean,

700
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: Titan premium. Are you willing to give up I mean

701
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: not like getting nothing back, You're getting London, You're Brock.

702
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: I mean you're getting Brock back.

703
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 1: No, No, Andrews, I totally understand that, Like, are you willing

704
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: to give up Chase to get those other two guys

705
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: in pursuit of brock Bowers when he has that type

706
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: of wide receiver depth or no?

707
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: I think so. I think that that's probably. I mean,

708
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: he's Chase going to be the triple crown winner again

709
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: this year. I mean maybe maybe somehow that begals. I mean,

710
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: I still think Chase can be the wide receiver one again.

711
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: But I also do love Drake London. He's also twenty

712
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: five years old, still super young. And if Michael Pennix

713
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: hits in a big way, well then the London Penix

714
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: connection is going to be something that's happening every single

715
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: year between these two guys. So you could see them

716
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: taking that leap. Garrett Wilson has established a high floor.

717
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: We're still waiting for him to potentially hit the ceiling

718
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: with some quarterback. Maybe it's with fields, maybe it's not.

719
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: Maybe it's still another quarterback to be named later. But

720
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: you know that he's good. We know Garret Wilson is.

721
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: Good, and he's got Nico and AJ Brown. So like

722
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: we got to assume Ribs type in the comments, can

723
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: four wide receivers start? Is this like three wide receivers

724
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: in a flex? That's pretty important here, I think as well,

725
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: because not to be dismissive of it, but it's like

726
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: if he's like, hey, it's two wide receivers and no flex,

727
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: then it's like, I mean, you're always going to not

728
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: start one of those guys. It's really becoming about Chase

729
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: for Bowers.

730
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking too.

731
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: Two wide receiver, three flex Okay, so you can start

732
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: all those wide receivers.

733
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: Then yeah, I think that I think that that's I

734
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: think that's enough. I know it's always tough to try

735
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: to when you're thinking about trading Chase in any capacity

736
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,479
Speaker 2: because he's one of the highest it's not the number

737
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: one dynasty asset and individual player, but you're getting rock

738
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: Bowers in a tight end premium and rock Bowers could

739
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: be the tight end one for the next ten years.

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00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: And with that, with that shock you Welsh, No, I

741
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: mean no, definitely not. I think it's getting back for Chase.

742
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: It's a very fair trade. It's a very fair trade

743
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: in like you, I personally, I'm always never the biggest

744
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: fan of these like quantity for the quality. But this

745
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: is one of those scenarios where it's not like the

746
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: dude's like, hey, I'll give you Jaden Reed, Juwan Jennings

747
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: a second rounder and brock Bauers. I mean he's still

748
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: brock Bars is great. He's giving you like great stuff,

749
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: Like you're getting wide receivers that could be easily top

750
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: five and the best tight end in there, which is

751
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: a huge upgrade. So yeah, I think you can do

752
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: it. It's tough to give up Chase, but I really do

753
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: think you can do it. So good question, Axel Axel

754
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: in the house. What you got, dude with an unmuted microphone?

755
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: Pretty please? There we go.

756
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: Hey, well, sounds like you got that user man on Madden.

757
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a little bit of a I'm a bogman.

758
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: I'll attest to it. I'm a I'm a menace with

759
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: the user stick. So we'll see if that ended up

760
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: playing out. Who do you got Bogman or me?

761
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: I got you man?

762
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: Come on, my dude, my dude, all right, what do

763
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: you But what do you got here?

764
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: So it's clear that everyone's fading. So that's the case.

765
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: Why is he is still a top three running back?

766
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: And at what point are you willing to take him?

767
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: How far does he.

768
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 2: Have to drop?

769
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: I love that, by the way, And great question, brother, Uh,

771
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: very very funny tweet. The hat tip to that Drake

772
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: may account you I think it was you or Mayor

773
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: put it in our side and this dude is going

774
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: viral hat tip to him, and we love it personally

775
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: Fantasy pros. But if you haven't seen the tweet, it's

776
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: it's like a sleeper draft and it and he circles

777
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley going three, and it was Jamar Chase going too,

778
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: but Drake London is the first pick and he goes,

779
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: can you believe this idiot took Saquon Barkley at three

780
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: or some like that and Drake London going the one one.

781
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: It's sitting there one of my I think Mayor said

782
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: it like a Hall of Fame tweet. It's pretty dang good,

783
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: pretty game dang good where everybody's doing the same jokes.

784
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: This was very creative. I know you had to like it.

785
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: So this is more of a question for you because

786
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: I got saque at RB three. You are the Saquon hater?

787
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: What is the what is the limit? Where's the spot

788
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: where you actually pull the trigger on Saquon? Because what

789
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: do you have him at RB forty two seventy five?

790
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't have him an RB forty two. I

791
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: mean he still have him as a first round.

792
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: Pick, Quinchawn Judkins or Saquon Barkley all right now, But

793
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: where do you have him? And like, what what would

794
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: be the point where you would take him?

795
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: I mean I'd take him at the back of the

796
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: first round. But he's never going to be there. So

797
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: that's look, I've said what I've said that I have,

798
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about Barkley. Just I'm trusting the process. Yeah,

799
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: it worked last year with McCaffrey. It worked, and then

800
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 2: the year before that, people forget is Josh Jacobs, same

801
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: exact type of thing, same exact bet.

802
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: What RB do you have him at? What is it six?

803
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: He's five? Still have on top five running back? I mean,

804
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: I just I basically have to be in a room

805
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: with a bunch of other people that also feel the

806
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: same way about Saquon for me to take him. So

807
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: I am I am always kind of interested if that

808
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: were to happen where it's me, it's Joe and other

809
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 2: people that aren't that are lower on Saquon versus consensus.

810
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: If we were all in a room together, drafting together. Now,

811
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: where would Sequin actually be drafted in that ridicular case,

812
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: because eventually somebody that is quote unquote not high on

813
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: Saquon would eventually have to take him. Because I have

814
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: to acknowledge that. Okay, I still think that I would.

815
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm still going to draft him, probably over Derek Henry,

816
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: even though I think Henry probably has a higher floor

817
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: than Saquon does.

818
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: But like compared to the wide receiver, let's get like,

819
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: and I know you're you're in not incorrect when you say,

820
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: like it's not going to happen, but let's play the

821
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: world where it does. Like you're kind of alluding to

822
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: what's the wide receiver that you would pass to take Barkley?

823
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: So we already know there's four running backs are going

824
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: to go. We know Chase, we know Jefferson. I'm going

825
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: to assume it's easy to say lamb and Pooka Brian

826
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: Tom Like what Drake Len Like, what what's the wide receiver?

827
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: Where you say, okay, I won't take the wide receiver

828
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: on now take.

829
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: We'll take take one over Lake neighbors.

830
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: Oh you, oh you will over Milake?

831
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: What do you have?

832
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: Molak at five?

833
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 3: Six?

834
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: He said seven my receiver? Seven? Okay, So like an

835
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: half PPR we're saying, we're.

836
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: Saying eleven, like eleven or twelve is truly the spot

837
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: where you are comfortable taking Saquon?

838
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, back end of the round one, Okay. I just

839
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: wanted to get like I'll never be there.

840
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: No, you're not wrong about that. Actually, did you have

841
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: a follow up? Your hand came back up, what was

842
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: your follow up to?

843
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 3: This is Christian m is Christian McCaffrey this year.

844
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: You know the best bet I had last year? It

845
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: was the it was so easy I had been I

846
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: had done a combo bet of Derrick Henry and Sakwon

847
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: Barkley to just both go over a thousand yards do

848
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: that then cash I think in like week eleven. I

849
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember me talking about that it.

850
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: Was the easiest. I don't remember that, but yeah, that that's.

851
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: And I got great odds because it was like injuries

852
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: and and all that type of stuff.

853
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: What are you gonna settle down this year?

854
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: Well, it's I'm not gonna get I'm not gonna get.

855
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: His get minus six hundry.

856
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly if I want to make the real

857
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: big bet, sick would like, what does it take like

858
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: Ken McCaffrey play that, I guess just getting back to

859
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: acxl's question, like, are you, like, could you at all

860
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: feel comfortable that McCaffrey could be this years saque And

861
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: what he means is like a back that's going you know,

862
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: wheel ish and ends up being just you know, absolute

863
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: beast and number one overall guys, it's with him, it's

864
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: always tied to injury. So I guess it's like, I

865
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: don't hear anybody talking about his his ability, it's just

866
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: the injury. So it's like, I guess the answers got

867
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: to be yes, right, ericson, Like, if he's not hurt,

868
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: he could be this year's Saquon.

869
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

870
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: I don't think that end will be like totally shocked

871
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: if especially if you're measuring his success on a points

872
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: per game basis. You know, if McCaffrey just runs back

873
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: similar to what he did in twenty twenty three, I

874
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: mean I have McCaffrey as a top five running back.

875
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: Actually I have Sycle barking, So I sorry, I misspoke.

876
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: So what you broke up? You had Cecone where he's

877
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: my ur before Sorry okay, and what McCaffrey is five?

878
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah. So the other issue though, is when we

879
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: do this a lot in fantasy where we're trying to

880
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: copy and paste what happened last year? Right, Okay, who's

881
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: going to be this year's bucket Irving? Right, totally get that. Well,

882
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: the year before that, what were we trying to find?

883
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 2: Well this year is pooku Nakua and who was it? Nobody.

884
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: There was no Pooka Nikua. There was no you know,

885
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: day three wide receiver that totally you know exploded, just

886
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: because these trends don't always happen year after year. It's actually,

887
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: you know, years apart that these things start to happen.

888
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: So last year it was the running back running back

889
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: veteran renaissance. Right, there's all these veteran running backs, and

890
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: even Bunting was pointing out in the chat, you know,

891
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: talking about how we usually it's the process the fade

892
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: veteran running backs on a new team. Obviously, Derrick Henry

893
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: take On Barkley, Josh Jacobs all were very successful in

894
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: their first years with these new teams. And it also

895
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: coincided with a really bad rookie running back class. You know,

896
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: last year's rooi running back class was when we looked

897
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: at top the bottom, not a very strong class. I mean,

898
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks was the first guy drafted and he barely played,

899
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: Trey Benson, Blake Corum guys that barely played. And the

900
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: two hits really from Day three were Bucky Irving, who

901
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: was underdrafted and well obviously was a big hit. And

902
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: then Tyron Tracy who was able to beat out Devin

903
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: Singletary and become the Giants started running back. So when

904
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: we're talking about and reflecting on this year, you know,

905
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: the story of the running back this year, is it

906
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 2: just going to be exactly what happened last year?

907
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

908
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 2: Well, ven running backs just smashed again. I mean maybe

909
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: maybe it's just a repeat the sequel. It's exactly like

910
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: the original. They just try to run back the hits.

911
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: But I'm more in the camp of thinking about, well,

912
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 2: this Rooki running neck class is way different than last

913
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 2: year's and I think that this Rooi running back class

914
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: is going to be the story of this season. And

915
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: that's why when I'm looking at the round one, am

916
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: I chasing last year and the year before that was

917
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: Sake Barkley and Christian McCaffrey, Or am I trying to

918
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: chase who I could be? Who could be the number

919
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 2: one pick next year with Ashton Genty? Like when we're

920
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: talking about twenty twenty six, who's going to be the

921
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: number one running back off the board? Is it going

922
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: to be Barkley, McCaffrey or Ashton Genty? And I think

923
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: Miavy Gibbs. Excuse me, Bjean and but yeah, again, I

924
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: have Bjeon and Gibs him the separate tier ahead of

925
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: those guys. So that's why I just didn't bring him up.

926
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I was just being stupid.

927
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're you're keeping me accountable. Well, so

928
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: that's what we do in the discord. It has been

929
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: keep each other accountable. But that's just kind of how

930
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: I'm kind of thinking about this potential season, and I

931
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me. Barkley and McCaffrey start out hot, you know,

932
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: as older players, they're fresh right now. But as the

933
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: season wanes, you know, are those going to be the

934
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: guys that are there in week fifteen, sixteen seventeen that

935
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: are winning you the championships? Or is it going to

936
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: be Ashton genty? You know, this uber talented prospect, nearly

937
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: perfect prospect profile where he should see three hundred, three

938
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty touches for the Las Vegas Raiders, who

939
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: I think is an underrated team overall from top to bottom.

940
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: Upgraded the quarterback position with Gino Smith. So that's something

941
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about when we're projecting out this season. You know,

942
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: what will be the story for the running backs and

943
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm just not convinced that it's going to be the

944
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: exact same thing we saw last year.

945
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I would just come back to say back

946
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: to the question of like Ken McCaffrey, be it absolutely

947
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: because there's a similarity in that McCaffrey Barkley's talent was

948
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: never really in question. He was now going to a

949
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: better situation and you're hoping to avoid injury. Same thing

950
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: with McCaffrey. So McCaffrey's healthy, he absolutely can be, but

951
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: his cost is rising more than barkley'ss. You never saw

952
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: Barkley go in the first round really last year, or

953
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: I didn't a ton I think I think McAffrey went

954
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: eight in my last night the Industry League. No, he went, sorry,

955
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: went ten, he went ten last night.

956
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: I will say too that if we're trying to make

957
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: a comparison, and I talked about him a little bit earlier,

958
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: he was something that I just did some more research

959
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: on today. So with Sakuan, obviously he was on a

960
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: new team, but there was no debate on Okay, he's

961
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: in a much better situation that he's been in previous years,

962
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: and if he's healthy, he should be able to smash

963
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: and we obviously saw the talent with sake on Barkley

964
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: as a rookie. And when I think about those type

965
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: of optics, I honestly think about ken Walker a little

966
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: bit where what's kind of stopped him? Well, he's been

967
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: injured in the Seahawks haven't really He's been the greatest

968
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: situation for him. And now you can debate, you know, well,

969
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: they have Sam Darnold, like how great of a quarterback

970
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: is he? I think that you know, I'm not going

971
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: to post him up on this pedestal and it's not

972
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: a oh he's playing for the he's running behind the

973
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: Eagles offensive line anymore. Not the case. But you know,

974
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: out of Seahawks camp, they've talked about how this is

975
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: the first time that ken Walker's playing in a run

976
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: first offense, an offense that wants to feature him more

977
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: than previous regimes. And McDonald has talked about featuring ken Walker.

978
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: And yes, I know that he's been banged up and

979
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: they're really trying to maintenance his workload. But I mean,

980
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: we're always talking about, well McCaffrey stays healthy, if Barkley

981
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: stays healthy, Well what if round four ken Walker stays

982
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: healthy in this offense. That last year with Klink Kubiak,

983
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara number one among all running backs and expected

984
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: Fantasy points per game, So his role as the RB

985
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: one in Klin Kubek's offense was better than anyone else

986
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: in terms of scoring fantasy points. So when you then

987
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: consider where ken Walker is going round four versus all

988
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: these other running backs, we're trying to make the upside cases.

989
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: That's what I'm making. My bet on is ken Walker.

990
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 2: So that's another player I wanted to throw out as

991
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: some of them maybe we're not talking about as an

992
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: upgraded situation and why they could thrive if they end

993
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: up staying healthy.

994
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: This yeah, yeah, I mean I see it. I think

995
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: there's a little i mean offensive line. Charbonnay's there. There's

996
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: some question. I don't want to keep hashing on this,

997
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: but it's really good conversation, great breakdown stuff. It's very good. Joe,

998
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: Joe's a premium member on the Fantasy Pros Discord. Joe

999
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: hasn't been up yet. Let's get Joe's Joseph's unless you

1000
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: don't like being called Joe, and then we're going to

1001
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: do a lightning round on some of the questions. In

1002
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: the chat, I see a couple of our guys who've

1003
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: already been up. We should don't bring guys back up.

1004
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: So if you have dropping the chat, what's going on?

1005
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: But Joseph hit unmute, dropped the question and Liz roll youah,

1006
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: Fernando Tati's picture you unmuted, but we can't hear you.

1007
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: Your mic not might be set, all right, you figured

1008
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 1: that out. There's an audio settings thing here on discord

1009
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,680
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1010
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: do a little bit of a lightning round in the

1011
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: chat before we get out of here. But we want

1012
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,080
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1013
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,080
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1014
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1015
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,880
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1016
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1017
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1018
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1019
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1020
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,680
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1025
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,680
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1029
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: you are doing it all right. I am scrolling back

1030
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: up to see if I can find some of these questions.

1031
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: Need more cow Bell Jutkins. Where does he fall in

1032
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: a rookie draft rankings relative to Ted RJ and Caleb

1033
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: So lightning round? What do you think is he is

1034
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: Judkins kind of back to his original cost value?

1035
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: I kind of think so. I mean I think that

1036
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: he's just going to go at the end of the tier.

1037
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: I mean, Hampton's gonna go in front of him, Henderson

1038
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: Harvey obviously. I mean maybe people will now take him

1039
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: over Caleb Johnson. I personally wouldn't do that. I still

1040
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: take Caleb Johnson over him, and then I feels think

1041
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: the first round tight Ends will go ahead of him

1042
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: cam Ward to go ahead of him probably, I mean

1043
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: definitely in super flex. I think that that's not really

1044
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: up for debate. And yeah, all the receivers McMillan, Hunter, Agbuka, Golden.

1045
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: I think that he's probably gonna end up being in

1046
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: that Burden Higgins tier. And then I think that he'll

1047
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: probably go ahead of like Trey Harris for example, Like

1048
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: I think that's probably where someone would stay. Oh all right,

1049
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: he's back. I'm going to take him now because I

1050
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: think that before this all of this stuff happened, he

1051
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: was clearly ahead of the second round wide receivers. Now,

1052
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: probably he's probably in the mix there, And I don't know.

1053
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: I mean, some people have been disappointed with Cale Johnson

1054
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: after preseason Week one. I personally don't really care that

1055
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: much about it.

1056
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't care about one game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone's like, oh,

1057
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: he's a bust one preseason game and they're just like,

1058
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: we got it wrong. All right, let's give it a

1059
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: little bit, all right, all right, let's keep going. Remember

1060
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: Lightning round. Would you rather gent or a Chan as

1061
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: your hero running back in full PPR super close? I

1062
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: might go eight Chan on that full PPR.

1063
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: Both good options.

1064
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they are good options. Twelve man PPR starting

1065
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: two running backs, two wide outs, three flexes. Oh, I

1066
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: think that was just the answer to the thing before.

1067
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: What is the best choice between CMC Nico Puka or

1068
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: gent full PPR three wide receiver format in a ten team?

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Speaker 1: That's from Jay Roney. This is probably for you going

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Speaker 1: to go back to gent d full PPR though.

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Speaker 2: Where is this is this question in the chat?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in the chat. It's right above the Michael

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Speaker 1: Scott meme. That's what the chat in these do. By

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Speaker 1: the way, people are dropping memes and answering each other's question.

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Speaker 1: It's very fun during these shows. But CMC Nico Puka

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Speaker 1: or gent full PPR three wide receivers in the ten.

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Speaker 2: Team, I still think I'm going with Puga man. I

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Speaker 2: just I believe in the talent, and yes, the stafford

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Speaker 2: thing is therefully concerning, But they have Jimmycgoppolo there as

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Speaker 2: a backup, and he's competent enough to get the ball

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Speaker 2: to Puka, who just gets so many scheme looks in

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Speaker 2: this offensive environment. And Puca's just the beast man. He's

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Speaker 2: so he's so good. I'm gonna feel like an idiot.

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Speaker 2: If I decide, well, I'm not going to play him

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Speaker 2: because Stafford made me miss a game or two. And again,

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Speaker 2: remember Stafford is a warrior. This guy will play through

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Speaker 2: basically anything differs teammates. So I think that that I

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Speaker 2: think maybe we're overblowing it. Just a tad. I'm willing

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Speaker 2: to scoop up Pooka if he falls.

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Speaker 1: Geronni also asks best sauce to dip a breakfast burrito,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like some cheese based sauce.

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Speaker 2: Really, I'm I would mother. Someone in the comments said,

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Speaker 2: who t f as well? Vera da salce salce salsa.

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Speaker 2: I agree, I like some salsa with burritos.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big breakfast burrito person.

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Speaker 2: Or a or avocado gualcamole.

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Speaker 1: Well, like a breakfast burrito though, is rocking. Like the

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Speaker 1: guacamole would be good. But it's like eggs and stuff

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Speaker 1: in there, right, You're not doing like a traditional.

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Speaker 2: You could put salsa on eggs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, yeah, I guess people do. I just

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Speaker 1: some cheese based thing sounds really good. Bud Dick said, hypothetically,

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Speaker 1: if Hill did return to the Chiefs, does that significantly

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Speaker 1: decrease Worthy's value. Make this quick. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: go too crazy on that because that's a big hypothetical.

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Speaker 1: I know that's been rumored. I just don't see how

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Speaker 1: that's going to happen in any capacity. I know there

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Speaker 1: the weird stuff with Tyreek Hill and two and all that,

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Speaker 1: But like the easy answers, yes, like if any big

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Speaker 1: wide receiver would return, like it's gonna affect everybody's value.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would just make it a fantasy mess.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, it would just make it a nightmare. Especially,

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Speaker 2: but you can see the clear need for the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: to add another wide receiver right now. Worthy is healthy,

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00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: Rice is we don't know what he's gonna play, when

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Speaker 2: he's gonna play, And the guy they were expecting to

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Speaker 2: be that third receiver, Marquis Brown, is already heard again,

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Speaker 2: So I know this is a hypothetical scenario. But if

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Speaker 2: Hill does gets traded, it takes two to tango who

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Speaker 2: wants to trade for him. The Chiefs make sense, especially

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Speaker 2: based on their current wide receiver needs. Potentially obviously they

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Speaker 2: drafted Jalen Royals, so maybe he can step up. But

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Speaker 2: I again, it wouldn't be shocked.

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Speaker 1: The lending and what round would you be targeting McMillan

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Speaker 1: in drafts twelve Team three wide receiver half PPR with

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Speaker 1: pick eleven. That's you'd probably have to do it, probably four, four.

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Speaker 2: Or five, round four, I think where it's almost a wheel.

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Speaker 1: He's pick eleven, so like if you wanted to risk it,

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Speaker 1: but I'd probably take him with that pick in the

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Speaker 1: well hold on one, two, three, Well, no, because four

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Speaker 1: and five have the big turn. So yeah, you'd have

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Speaker 1: to do it at four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that McMillan's going to be such a beast.

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Speaker 1: He's such a beast.

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00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: When we pull out the week two rankings, he's going

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Speaker 2: to be. I think he's going to be consensus top

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Speaker 2: twenty guys.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I was so I was so pissed. I wanted

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Speaker 1: him in that flex league and he went. I took

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Speaker 1: Breise Hall in the third and then he went three

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Speaker 1: picks later in the third pick I'm sorry, the second

1142
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Speaker 1: to last. Oh no, no, I'm screwing this up. Second pick

1143
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: in the third round, so I didn't even get a

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00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: chance before my third round pick to take him. He

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00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: went high. He went before Marvin Harrison doing to check

1146
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: out who we went before he went before T Higgins.

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00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Garrett, Garrett Wilson, Marvin Harrison, Mike Evans, DJ Moore,

1148
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, and DeVante Adams, whoa going baby?

1149
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: We all right? Well just but listeners, you're not gonna

1150
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: have to do that and no get him. But even

1151
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: if you still reach around or two where his ADP

1152
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: is listed on some of these sites, you're going to

1153
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: get him at a great value and you don't be

1154
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: that aggressive. But round four, I think is hey, let's

1155
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: pull up Ted, let's snag him here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it did in the third round there.

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Speaker 2: Sorry McMillan.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't like to call it Ted, his mom doesn't

1159
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: like it to be. I'm comfortable with.

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00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: Team or Tam Mac. He says, Team Mac is a

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00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: good too.

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00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: Tony Macs, though, isn't there who's the other Tea Mac

1163
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Speaker 1: is Terry McLaurin.

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00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: I don't know he's TMC or F one.

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00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: I feel like there's another t Mac And there was

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Speaker 1: a basketball like McGrady, what is basketball? What is basketball?

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Speaker 1: That is it? That is the show? Though we can

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Speaker 1: answer that question next week. Great stuff, And here a

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Speaker 1: bunch of you guys hanging out love that you guys

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Speaker 1: were hanging out with us, and I want you to

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Speaker 1: do it more because remember, you could do it for

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Speaker 1: free all year long. This isn't just a draft show.

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Speaker 1: We are here all year long where Erics and I

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00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: are chopping it up with you guys. It's an opportunity

1175
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: to chat in season. It's like trade stuff, lineup questions, dynasty,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, Come and bring it to us. Be

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Speaker 1: a podcast personality as well. It's kind of like old

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Speaker 1: school radio. You know, you get like callers that come in.

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Speaker 1: You got an opportunity to be that. All you have

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Speaker 1: to all the other premium channels, AMAS and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: But make sure you are locked into it. We'll put

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Speaker 1: out all the notices, but go to Fantasypros dot com

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Speaker 1: slash chat and make sure you have it pinned for

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00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: this Tuesday. Ericson You're doing You're gonna be, aren't you?

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00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: In like three or four segments during the Fantasy Fest

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00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: and you're gonna probably be in the chat and stuff, right.

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00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be dialed into all things Fantasy Fests. So

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00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: I think we kick off at two pm Eastern till midnight.

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00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: It's probably not that long, but we're gonna be We're

1194
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 2: gonna be getting you guys everything you need to get

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Speaker 2: ready for your drafts, having a ton of fun. I

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Speaker 2: love the myriad of guests that we have set ups,

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Speaker 2: So shout out to the team for bringing all this talent.

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Speaker 2: But it's gonna be really fun.

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Speaker 1: So are you gonna come watch me over on Twitch?

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Speaker 1: You're gonna watch me and bogwin.

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Speaker 2: Game a little Yucher dark. I'm gonna have to come in.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to do some hackling, of course.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little it's a little late. It is

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Speaker 1: gonna be five straight hours. I'm in the middle. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be hosting an hour of the Fantasy Fest. So

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Speaker 1: whether that's good or bad for the listeners, whether you

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Speaker 1: avoid it or you're in, I'll be an hour and

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Speaker 1: I got hooked up with some huge guests as well,

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Speaker 1: and then I will be a part of the draft party.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna be talking ranks and sleepers, mock drafts,

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Speaker 1: and we'll move after the five hours on Tuesday at

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Speaker 1: two pm to seven pm Eastern, and we'll move over

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Speaker 1: to Twitch Twitch dot tv Slash Fantasy pros Bagman and

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Speaker 1: I and then we'll have the producer in there. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: we'll have some of the guys hanging in here. We'll

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Speaker 1: be battling it out in Madden, so that should be

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Speaker 1: a ton of fun. Oh last thing, Banchie said, this

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00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: is a great question. Who had a faster mock draft

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Speaker 1: phil yesterday? Less than two seconds for each? I think

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Speaker 1: I did. I did some mock drafts on the discord.

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Speaker 1: I literally had one that filled instantly. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you've experienced that.

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Speaker 2: No, it's basically like they're ready to get in.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't even a trickle effect. Like I looked at

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00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: the draft room and it instantly filled. It's the craziest

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Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen. So another reason to check out

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Speaker 1: the discord. Erickson's in here. I did some impromptu I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be doing some amas and some more mock drafts,

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Speaker 1: so make sure you do that. But again, Fantasy Fest

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, please come and hang out with us. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a ton of fun. Want to get everybody

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Speaker 1: in there and just hanging talk fantasy. What more could

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Speaker 1: you ask for? That is it for the show? Extra point.

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