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Speaker 1: with you? Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio App.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in. We're in Lawrence, Kansas today. Why you ask?

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Speaker 1: First day at college basketball season and my Green Bay

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Speaker 1: Phoenix are going to take on the Kansas Jayhawks, so

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Speaker 1: we'll get to love and hate in a moment. We

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Speaker 1: got Tom Telesco joined this hour. We still want to

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Speaker 1: talk more of this about the World Series and what

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Speaker 1: an incredible Game seven. Game six was amazing too. But

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Speaker 1: this is year two for me, and obviously we've adjusted

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Speaker 1: a lot of things in kind of understanding the two

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Speaker 1: jobs and how it works, and trying to help my

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Speaker 1: guys in LA because because they they sometimes don't know

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Speaker 1: what's going on with when we're on the road. But

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited, really excited for both year two of

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Speaker 1: doing the radio show while coaching basketball and year two

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Speaker 1: of coaching college basketball. But it's interesting, you know, like

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Speaker 1: you stop and it's really important that and people say

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Speaker 1: it all the time. I mean to stop and smell

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Speaker 1: the roses and think about things. I just you get

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Speaker 1: these surreal moments, right with all these things that collide

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Speaker 1: in your life. I grew up watching Kansas play like

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Speaker 1: everybody in southern California, I mean, you're we watched Big

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Speaker 1: East basketball and then Kansas had a point guard named

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Speaker 1: Jock Vaughan who was from LA. They always had an

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Speaker 1: LA player or two that Roy Williams's command coach. Now

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Speaker 1: Jock Vaughn is part of the other sidelines who's coached

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Speaker 1: by Bill self, who's not only a Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: but Bill's in Oklahoma State alum, former Oklahoma State point guard.

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Speaker 1: And he was a guy that when I finished playing,

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Speaker 1: I actually wrote him a letter asking him, Hey, when

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Speaker 1: I stopped playing, I'd always love to work for you.

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Speaker 1: And then I end up getting a job at ESPN,

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Speaker 1: and the rest kind of took care of itself. And

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Speaker 1: now you get to coach. Like I was standing there

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Speaker 1: at shoot around guys, and I tried to describe it

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Speaker 1: to our supporters as the Lambeau of basketball, right, It's that.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's so pristine in it's look and feel

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Speaker 1: that you could walk in and say, it's if you

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Speaker 1: said it's the nineteen sixties. Everybody now their idea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: feels like nineteen sixties, right the new video huge video

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Speaker 1: board for the scoreboard. But other than that, it looks

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Speaker 1: the same as it looked previously. But just that surreal

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Speaker 1: moment of you know, right before tip looking down the

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Speaker 1: sidelines and seeing Bill self, you know, arguably the greatest

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Speaker 1: coach of the modern era basketball six national championship banners.

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Speaker 1: You know, they have the rules of the sport in

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Speaker 1: the building. I don't know, it's it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: cool moment, really really cool moment. There's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of cool ones. This one's right up there. And then

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Speaker 1: you know, people, I had somebody ask me, Jase to

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna tell your team? And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you right now, I'm gonna tell me, Hey, you've got

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Speaker 1: a chance to author the greatest opening night story in

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Speaker 1: the history of the support. Right now, nobody cares that.

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Speaker 1: Are you know that the lead Nations leading score broke

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Speaker 1: his ankle or all the injuries or things that we

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Speaker 1: walked into, or academic probation. Nobody cares about that. They

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Speaker 1: just hey, we I took over a team a little

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Speaker 1: bit late in the cycle and we had a rough year,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people like to dog pylon because

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Speaker 1: I guess that brings them joy. Good for them, But

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Speaker 1: for me, I learned a lot. And you know, I,

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Speaker 1: like any basketball coach, will honestly tell you, we don't

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Speaker 1: really know what we have just yet. I think we

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Speaker 1: could be prett damn good, but it's gonna take a

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Speaker 1: minute because guys are still figuring out the level. But

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Speaker 1: I do know that if we win this game, it's

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Speaker 1: all anybody's can talk about, right.

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Speaker 2: I'm really happy for you, Doug. I'm very very happy

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Speaker 2: for you. This is awesome. You know, behind the scenes,

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Speaker 2: we tried to get the show there didn't quite work

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Speaker 2: out logistically. I was able to experience your first game

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Speaker 2: last year, a year ago, and still water would love

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Speaker 2: to be in warrance today. But I do have a question.

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Speaker 1: Yep, there's a question.

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Speaker 3: The niece an answer, and the answer is if only

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Speaker 3: there was someone with the authority and the wisdom to

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Speaker 3: give us that answer.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, let's ask the coach.

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Speaker 2: So, Doug, you have a really different roster than a

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Speaker 2: one that took the court last year. Could you give

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Speaker 2: me a couple of names that we should look for

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Speaker 2: tonight as we watch the Phoenix try to do the

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Speaker 2: impossible overcome a thirty point underdog difference against Kansas tonight.

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Speaker 1: Look, there's some names that people are going to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Remel Bethea's a name people are going to talk about.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty nine, he's a sophomore, he was in the Navy,

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Speaker 1: he didn't play basketball growing up. I have no idea

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Speaker 1: Legit has probably never played in front of more than

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Speaker 1: a couple of hundred people, and now he's going to

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Speaker 1: go against Florrie Badunga, who is an absolute freak of

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Speaker 1: an athlete, who's a bigger, stronger, younger version of what

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Speaker 1: he does dunk block shots role and I loved. So

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for Romel to experience this, to experience it.

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Speaker 1: We have Lebron Thomas. Yes, that's right, I have a

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Speaker 1: player named Lebron on my team. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: irony to it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he was a first team Junior College All American

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Speaker 1: point guard, and it'll be a lot it'll be a

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Speaker 1: challenge for him. Right this is a higher level, very different,

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Speaker 1: But I'm really excited to see what he does because

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Speaker 1: he's not perfect player, but he's a really competitive kid

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Speaker 1: who's won a ton of games at junior college, and

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see how he competes. So those would

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Speaker 1: of those while we're losing, you're trying to fill your

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Speaker 1: kids full of confidence to make them believe, hey, it's

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Speaker 1: not them, it's you, and you'll be You'll put a

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Speaker 1: have a great year and he is an awesome human

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Speaker 1: being to to coach in his career. So those would

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Speaker 1: be the three first names. Ramel Bethea who's six' nine

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Speaker 1: with a seven to four, Wingspan Lebron thomas who's six

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Speaker 1: three and ninety five, pounds and he's the opposite Of

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Speaker 1: lebron in that he's right handed in real life and

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Speaker 1: left handed as a basketball player Was lebron's you, know the,

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Speaker 1: Player and Then Marcus hall who's From, Schofield. Wisconsin there you, go.

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Speaker 5: Hey Coach Sam kinsley here from The Davenport, Press Davenport

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Speaker 5: Free Times. Press so just listen ten ten minutes into the.

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Speaker 5: Game first, Half all, RIGHT i should say first half

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Speaker 5: first twenty. Minutes are are you like looking at a

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Speaker 5: department of your team, rebounding, scoring you, know three point

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Speaker 5: shooting that you're maybe worried, About like what do you

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Speaker 5: want to? See you're, like there's some department that you're like,

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Speaker 5: this this could be a soft spot for, us a week.

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Speaker 5: Spot we need to test it out against these very

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Speaker 5: Talented Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Jayhawks, WELL i, mean look last, year obviously rebounding was

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Speaker 1: a huge issue with, us and just overall. Toughness we

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Speaker 1: felt like we'd get them there and then we get

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Speaker 1: pushed around and fall apart some in the second. Half so, rebounding, defense,

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Speaker 1: toughness and they're. Young they Have Darren peterson who's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the number one overall, pick and he's an incredible. Shooter.

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Speaker 1: Scorer the rest of their young ones haven't made shots

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Speaker 1: yet in their exhibition. GAMES i think they're a better

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Speaker 1: shooting team than the. Numbers usually it takes guys a

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Speaker 1: couple of games to settle. Down so we want to.

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Speaker 1: See what you want to see is are you trying

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Speaker 1: to do what we've been coaching you on? Doing and

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Speaker 1: will you compete against, bigger more athletic guys in a hostile.

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Speaker 1: Environment that's, It that's really. It are you gonna try

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Speaker 1: and do what we? Want or you can try and

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Speaker 1: do your own? Thing and then are you gonna compete

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Speaker 1: because you're gonna get pushed, around you're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: non foul cal you're gonna make a. Mistake are you

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Speaker 1: gonna compete or are you gonna sulkan pout or or

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Speaker 1: get kind of intimidated by the? Atmosphere one thing here

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Speaker 1: before we get to. MONTHS i know you have a.

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Speaker 1: QUESTION i do want to be critical of essentially every

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Speaker 1: paper or online site who has done an article on this.

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Speaker 1: Game and this is you The Kansas City, star and

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Speaker 1: there's other there's Other topeka newspapers and. Whatever no one has.

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Speaker 1: Call all they do is aggregate quotes from like media

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Speaker 1: day or some other. Article is it that hard to

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Speaker 1: ask to come to shoot around and ask a question

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Speaker 1: or call me and ask a. Question it's. Crazy it's

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Speaker 1: not about me or About Green bay or our. Story

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Speaker 1: but we're getting ready to Play kansas And bill self

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Speaker 1: And Darren. Peterson you want to get a quote from

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Speaker 1: this is media in twenty twenty five where people want

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Speaker 1: Story you, know it's like Coach prime, SAYS i ain't

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Speaker 6: Right in your second, year is there some different approach

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Speaker 6: that you are going to take you yourself as a,

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Speaker 6: coach something that maybe you did last year that this

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Speaker 6: year you want to approach it.

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Speaker 1: Differently, yes we. Do we commit to defensive vitamins every,

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Speaker 1: day defense and rebounding every. Day, okay, weird that is

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Speaker 1: not what happened last year is not going to happen

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Speaker 1: think we were nearly as good, defensively and we played

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Speaker 1: people more based upon trying to find mismatches than playing

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Speaker 1: who are who? Are what's the best defensive? Lineup we

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Speaker 1: have start there every. Game you, know it's like what

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Speaker 1: what you do is you do like a self, audit,

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Speaker 1: right you go back through things and WHEN i went,

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Speaker 1: back what loses you? Games it doesn't matter if you

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Speaker 1: play fast or. Slow it doesn't matter what offense you,

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Speaker 1: run what defense you run is, okay is who wins

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Speaker 1: the turnover, battle who wins the rebounding? Battle and then

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Speaker 1: it's after that it's quality of shot and can you

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Speaker 1: defend three point? Line so those are the things that

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Speaker 1: of build. Out so, yeah the approach is very very

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Speaker 1: To my staff is. DIFFERENT i have three new assistant,

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Speaker 1: COACHES i have ten new. Players there's a different kind of.

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Speaker 1: Energy it's a different sort of guy where they're older

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Speaker 1: and they're a little bit more, stubborn a little bit slower,

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Speaker 1: learner but tougher and a little bit. Withered So i'm

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Speaker 1: interested to see how much the approach helps. Us and

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Speaker 1: then the last part month Says i'm a super competitive.

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Speaker 1: Guy you get into games and you're, like, well it's

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Speaker 1: just you can win every. Game you do have to

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Speaker 1: keep in, mind you have to continue to develop players

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Speaker 1: playing the long, game you, know the games that really.

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Speaker 1: Matter we play three league games In december and the

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Speaker 2: THERE i don't know anything about college, basketball BUT i

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Speaker 2: THINK i could tell you a fact about. Tonight those

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Speaker 2: Five kansas players that take the court to begin the

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Speaker 2: game are all self.

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Speaker 1: Starters hey, Good, oh you know what he just did?

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Speaker 1: There he did. Alliteration that's that's one of his favorite.

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Speaker 1: Things let's get to love and? Hate shall? We what

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Speaker 1: we love from the? Weekend what we hate from the?

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Speaker 1: Weekend let's, Go, GOD i.

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Speaker 3: Love you and what did you?

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Speaker 1: Love love love love, love love hate hate hate hate,

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Speaker 2: Weekend this is the best part about your favorite baseball

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Speaker 2: team winning is that your, offspring your your child is

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Speaker 2: a much bigger fan than. Mine so for those listeners

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Speaker 2: who don't, KNOW i have a fully grown adult child

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Speaker 2: Named jacob AND i have never met a Bigger dodger,

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Speaker 2: fan so on My instagram right. NOW i just posted

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Speaker 2: it At Jason Stewart sports the happiest part of my.

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Speaker 2: Weekend WHAT i loved most was sharing in the, joy the,

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Speaker 2: brought home another. Championship Because jacob is like an actual normal.

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Speaker 2: Fan he's not like. Me he's not, negative LIKE i

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Speaker 2: am mfing this team for seven, games And jacob's, like

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Speaker 2: why you gotta be so? Negative why can't we? Win

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Speaker 2: and you, know he's just one of those. Fans so

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Speaker 2: when they actually, win it's just, pure unadulterated emotion and.

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Speaker 2: Elation by, far the biggest happiest part of my. Weekend

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Speaker 2: AND i loved. HIM i love, HIM i love, YOU

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Speaker 2: i love all of our, listeners AND i love The.

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Speaker 7: Dodgers months months of, WEEKEND i Knew jason would definitely

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Speaker 7: take The dodgers, winning and OBVIOUSLY i love.

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Speaker 6: That of COURSE i. Did it was such a great.

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Speaker 6: Series we've talked about, that But i'm not gonna. LIE

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Speaker 6: i also really love That Kawhi leonard hit a game

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Speaker 6: winner On friday night against The. Pelicans he has another game.

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Speaker 6: Winner it's just like it's unfair that some players who

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Speaker 6: are great don't get. Those and Here's Kawhi leonard just

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Speaker 6: constantly hitting game. Winners AND i know he's injured half the,

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Speaker 6: time And i'm a very Emotional clippers, fan but at

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Speaker 6: least he gives me these little highs throughout the season

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Speaker 1: Afloat Uh, So i'm so.

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Speaker 6: Glad AND i also dressed up As Philly, karen AND

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Speaker 6: i THINK i did a great job AND i love.

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Speaker 2: THAT i saw. It it was really.

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Speaker 6: Good thank you so, Much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so, Much Philly En.

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Speaker 5: Philly, Well i'm taking a bit of sloppy seconds. Here

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Speaker 5: Maybe i'm just co signing on What jason was talking,

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Speaker 5: about endorsing what he was talking, about because as a

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Speaker 5: transplant me coming here From iowa To Los angeles and

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Speaker 5: just twenty, FIFTEEN i got to listen to a little

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Speaker 5: bit Of Vin scully in his last year before here ret.

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Speaker 5: Hired i've been to Playoff i've been to a playoff

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Speaker 5: game At Dodgers stadium when that they lost, unfortunately And

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Speaker 5: i've been to regular season games At Dodger. STADIUM i

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Speaker 5: can tell you this Much dodger baseball is the real.

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Speaker 5: Deal the fans are the real. Deal and if you're

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Speaker 5: someone who moves out, here you become absorbed by The.

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Speaker 5: Dodgers it is easy to be A dodgers, fan especially

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Speaker 5: SINCE i moved. Here they've been WINNING Nl west titles

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Speaker 5: since what twenty.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen that's the second time you've said. That do you

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Speaker 2: think they are winning because you moved. HERE i think

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Speaker 2: the ownership, change you, know catapulted them into contender. Status

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Speaker 2: MAYBE i had something to do with, It probably, Not but,

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Speaker 2: LISTEN i moved here at a great time When Dodger

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Speaker 2: baseball has never been, hotter and it's IT'S i grew

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Speaker 2: up A phillies fan In, iowa and then you, know

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Speaker 2: people love The cubs The cardinals In. Iowa but there's

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Speaker 2: something about being you're From Los angeles and you're A dodgers.

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Speaker 5: Fan it's so it's so. Pure and, again it's easy

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Speaker 5: so that being, SAID i think that this second, one

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Speaker 5: LIKE i said in the first, segment in the first,

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Speaker 5: segment this second one of the back to back is

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Speaker 5: sweeter because of how much of a struggle it was

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Speaker 5: Fight i'll take, listen it's. Okay i'm gonna endorse What jason.

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Speaker 5: Said this was an incredible sports. Weekend this was a

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Speaker 5: lot Of dodger fans thought this series was, lost but

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Speaker 5: also a lot of them kept the, hope kept the,

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Speaker 5: faith and it paid. Off they won in seven in

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Speaker 5: one most Epic world series of all.

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Speaker 1: Time i'm Again i'm okay SAYING i loved, it AND

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Speaker 1: i loved every minute of. It and the coolest part,

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Speaker 1: is you, know to those of us who, remembers was

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Speaker 1: it city, slickers you know where where they talked about

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Speaker 1: baseball and what it means to. You my son doesn't

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Speaker 1: play baseball, anymore but from the time he was probably

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Speaker 1: multiple times in a. DAY i coached, him you, know

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Speaker 1: texting back and forth about the, game and he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Go it was like A saturday, night his buddies are

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Speaker 1: going out and he's just, LIKE i, go what are you?

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Speaker 1: Doing who you with by myself That i'm watching this.

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Speaker 1: Game it's. Awesome so we're texting back and forth all

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Speaker 1: this funny, stuff AND i Just i'm thankful for, baseball.

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Speaker 1: Man it's so great and it reinvigorated all the memories

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Speaker 1: the eighty Eight World. Series you know Where gibson hit

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Speaker 1: the home. RUN i went To game. TWO i took

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Speaker 1: Red sox in The World. SERIES i remember THE Covid World,

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Speaker 1: series WHICH i actually, liked AND i liked because everybody

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Speaker 1: we were still everybody's still, home you, know AND i

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Speaker 1: remember you a trick or treating In Newport beach and

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Speaker 1: everybody's got The dodger game on during The World. Series

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Speaker 1: just all the good memories and then you get you

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Speaker 1: finish to an incredible. Series that's WHY i love for the.

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Speaker 1: Weekend all, right let's get to what we hated for the.

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Speaker 1: WEEKEND a resident hater Is Jason.

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Speaker 2: Stewart what do you, Got, jay same, Topic dodgers Game

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Speaker 2: game six and. SEVEN i sent out a tweet over

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Speaker 2: the weekend that actually got some. Traction it's still in the.

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Speaker 2: Algorithm i'm still getting reaction to, it a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Engagement and you, know On, Twitter, doug the normal thing

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Speaker 2: is you put something out, there unless You're. Monzi if

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Speaker 2: you're an attractive, female it's a different. Experience but if

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Speaker 2: you're just, me a fifty two year old white, man

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Speaker 2: you throw out, something half the people call you fat and,

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Speaker 2: Say this is like ninety five. Percent if there is

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Speaker 2: like a thousand comments under my, tweet ninety five percent

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Speaker 2: of agree with. This why are they doing in game?

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Speaker 2: Interviews rosenthal And verducci were embarrassing. Themselves they have no.

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Speaker 2: Awareness first of, all they can't read the. Room they're

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Speaker 2: compelled to do these canned in question interviews and the

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Speaker 2: literally there were things in important games going, on and the,

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Speaker 2: Manager John schneider actually apologized To Ken rosenthal for not

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Speaker 2: being able to do the interview because he had to

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Speaker 2: do his freaking. Job get rid of the in game

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Speaker 2: interviews in important, games save them for The All star

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Speaker 2: games or regular season, games but Not game six and

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Speaker 2: seven of The World. SERIES i hated.

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Speaker 1: That motts hate for the. WEEKEND i one agree With.

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Speaker 6: JASON i hate, that AND i even hated during the regular.

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Speaker 6: Season but, ANYWAY i really hated AND i know you're

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Speaker 6: going to talk about it a little bit, More, coach

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Speaker 6: BUT i hated That Jayden daniels got injured last night

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Speaker 6: because it put me in my own predicament of. Thoughts

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Speaker 6: HERE i am, saying, like, No Steph curry's got to

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Speaker 6: play every minute of every game because he is the

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Speaker 6: star of the. SHOW i need him out. There and

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Speaker 6: SO i know The commanders were not in the. Game

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Speaker 6: even though we have seen The broncos score what thirty

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Speaker 6: one thirty three points to come back and beat The.

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Speaker 6: Giants we saw what The bills did against The, ravens

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Speaker 6: so we know the scoring can. Happen BUT i felt

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Speaker 6: myself in a predicament BECAUSE i was, like, No Jaden

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Speaker 6: daniels should be out. There, oh but should he be

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Speaker 6: out there because, like the game is so far away

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Speaker 6: and he's their, star he's their. Future, no but they're at.

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Speaker 6: Home the fans paid to See Jenden, daniels and THAT i.

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Speaker 3: HATE i hate.

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Speaker 6: THAT i CAN'T i can't decide how what the right

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Speaker 6: answer is for, myself like HOW i feel about? It

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Speaker 6: SO i hate That Jayden daniels got. HURT i hate

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Speaker 6: it for the, commanders but more so of like should

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Speaker 1: There? Yes?

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Speaker 6: Right, NO i don't.

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Speaker 3: KNOW i hate.

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Speaker 5: That doug Stug.

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Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show fox what's ready to sam me hate in the.

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Speaker 2: Weekend, well first of, All, doug hold on a, Second,

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Speaker 2: DOUG a couple of things happened last. Night you're a

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Speaker 2: you're a, coach so you have a unique perspective on.

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Speaker 2: This did Dan quinn make the right? Call and how

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Speaker 2: many times did you watch the elbow dislocate?

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Speaker 6: Twice?

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Speaker 1: Uh thirty? Times Because i'm a sicko like.

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Speaker 2: That that's where zero ZERO i did you see it live?

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Speaker 5: WELL i guess the replay would been the most clear.

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Speaker 1: It Was danklin. Made he made the wrong. Decision gotta get,

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Speaker 1: HIM i, mean gotta get him out of. There AND

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Speaker 1: i get you're probably, like, hey let's just end it

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Speaker 1: get him going, right, Right but he's coming off an

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Speaker 1: Like but, no it's. NOT i, mean you know we Played.

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Speaker 1: Friday you, Know friday is a game we Played. BUFFALO i,

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Speaker 1: Again i'm like last YEAR i Left anthony roy and

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Speaker 1: late in some of these games to be, competitive and

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Speaker 1: he had helped him leave the country in. Scoring again,

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Speaker 1: TONIGHT i don't know WHAT I i don't know where

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Speaker 1: all side on WHO i play WHEN i play him?

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Speaker 1: Late you, know if we're up, thirty you, know because

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Speaker 2: Up, yeah it's a blowout that you're winning.

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Speaker 4: In what do you?

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Speaker 6: Do that's a Good your whole team is gonna turn

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Speaker 6: Into Miguel.

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Speaker 1: Rojas, yes, Okay sammy Wich hay from the.

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Speaker 5: Weekend, Quick i'll be very quick when it gets dark

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Speaker 5: like the next six. Weeks it'll be dark at four

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Speaker 5: forty five by next, week which is just weird because

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Speaker 5: at six thirty, Pm i'm like completely out of, it

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Speaker 5: And i'm, like SHOULD i eat? Dinner SHOULD i go to?

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Speaker 5: BED i don't know what to. DO i know it's

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Speaker 5: forgiving us more h daylight hours in the, morning so it's,

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Speaker 5: fine but it sucks in the afternoon when it's dark

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Speaker 5: by four forty.

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Speaker 1: FIVE i hate that My. Chargers everybody gets.

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Speaker 6: Hurt not the way The chargers.

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Speaker 1: Do why? What what? Happened was it the move to

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Speaker 1: From San diego To la that caused the cosmic balance

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Speaker 1: of karma to be thrown? Out?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 1: Why? Oh and then you had the performance coach who

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Speaker 1: told everybody he acted like he had he had the

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Speaker 1: secret to health in THE.

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Speaker 5: Nfl the left and the right, ankle the left and

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Speaker 5: the right. Shoulder he's, like we're gonna focus on both of.

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Speaker 5: Those i'm, glad glad you're. Not you're not gonna ignore

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Speaker 5: the right shoulder over the.

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Speaker 1: List and for people who don't know what we're talking,

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Speaker 1: about The chargers have a performance. Coach he came With

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Speaker 1: Jim harbaugh From, michigan and he arrogantly made it out

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Speaker 1: like he knew why The chargers have always had injuries

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Speaker 1: and he had the cure to. Cancer i'm gonna fix.

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Speaker 1: It and what is? It what has? Happened, WELL i

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Speaker 1: mean we Had herbert get hurt last, year the whole

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Speaker 1: offensive line out this, year every running back has gotten.

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Speaker 1: Hurt like you name. It, YEAH i mean pride comes

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Speaker 1: before the. FALL i hate. It that is. Love and, Hey.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the.

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Speaker 1: Live it's The Doug Gottlieb. Show he Ron Fox Sports,

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Speaker 1: radio and we are are so pleased to be joined

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Speaker 1: by our good Friend Tom, telesco FORMER gm of The

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Speaker 1: chargers and last year with The, raiders and he joins

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Speaker 1: us for his weekly visit here on the. Show, actually

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Speaker 1: let me start with The. Chargers god is the organization?

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Speaker 1: CURSED i, mean more injuries to that offensive. Line Joe

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Speaker 1: alt now Heard pipkins heard like you name it their?

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Speaker 1: Herd what what's that? Like because you've actually been this

470
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Speaker 1: is a situation you've been. In you've had Good charger

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Speaker 1: teams that just get, destroyed especially with offensive line. Injuries

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Speaker 1: what's that?

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Speaker 4: Like, well it's not a comforting. FEELING i can tell you,

474
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 4: that especially because of the position that if it was

475
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 4: a center or, guard you can usually mask those injuries

476
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 4: a little. Bit there's this a larger pool of players

477
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 4: either on the street or you could possibly trade or

478
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 4: just bump up from your practice. Squad but when you

479
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 4: talk about offensive, tackles there's just so few available as

480
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 4: they try and make adjustments right. NOW i, mean you

481
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,239
Speaker 4: can look at the trade, market but you, know good

482
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 4: luck trying to find a starting left their right tackle

483
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 4: at this point of the season that someone would actually

484
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 4: give you who can. Play that's the biggest. THING a

485
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 4: lot of names you see up there for possible, trades

486
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 4: there's a reason why their names out there because they

487
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 4: can't play or help them team in, with so they're

488
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 4: gonna have to move from players. Around, look this is

489
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Speaker 4: the GM's job and the coaching staff's job to. Adjust

490
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 4: it happens at different. Positions offensive line is one of

491
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Speaker 4: the harder ones to. Handle but as you saw, Yesterday

492
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Speaker 4: Justin herbert just put him on his back and it

493
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Speaker 4: was really a sloppy game by both. Teams but these

494
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Speaker 4: are the type of games that you, Know Jim harby

495
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Speaker 4: just doesn't lose these type of. Games you, know there

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Speaker 4: could have been a trap. Game they're going To. Tennessee

497
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Speaker 4: tennessee had a ton of injuries coming. In they're not

498
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Speaker 4: a very good football, team and it wasn't, clean but

499
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Speaker 4: they got the game with the. Win now they're have

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Speaker 4: to figure out a little bit of a reshuffle on

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Speaker 4: the offensive. Line but something they've been dealing with the whole.

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Speaker 1: Year help me out on. Something would you explain The

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Speaker 1: Green Bay packers to?

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Speaker 4: Me, well if you look at the glass half, full

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Speaker 4: there are five than two essentially right. Now so all

506
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Speaker 4: is not, lost but there's just something that's not clicking right.

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Speaker 4: Now so yesterday it was just just way too many.

508
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: MISTAKES i, mean they're getting the red zones five times

509
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 4: in one. Touchdown it's hard to win that win and

510
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 4: you got, turnovers you have some. Sacks but they have talent,

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Speaker 4: there they have the coaching to withstand. This but, yeah

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Speaker 4: it's just they're going through a really tough time right.

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Speaker 4: Now so but they have to kind of get. Back

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Speaker 4: Jordan love can, play he just looks a little bit.

515
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Speaker 4: Off the offensive line has been very strong for them

516
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Speaker 4: in the last couple of, years but they're just not

517
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Speaker 4: playing as one right. Now that's WHERE i think we

518
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Speaker 4: got to look at what The packers right now is

519
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Speaker 4: just a protection up, front keep things, clean try and

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00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 4: get the running game going a bit. More but there's

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Speaker 4: still plenty of time when the season they kind of

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Speaker 4: get things figured. Out they're still five and.

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Speaker 1: Two Yeah, S doug gotlib show here On Fox Sports.

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Speaker 1: Radio why Was Jane daniels in the game when they're

525
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Speaker 1: getting blown out?

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Speaker 4: Late i'm sure that's the first question that was. Asked

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Speaker 4: when when Coach quinn came off the. Field, YEAH i

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Speaker 4: mean that's six minutes to, go the game's out of,

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Speaker 4: hand he's coming off with. Injury i'm sure was talked

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Speaker 4: about over the headsets at some point before the drive.

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Speaker 4: Started you, know they decide to keep him. In it's

532
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Speaker 4: just really. Unfortunate you, know he's had a number of

533
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Speaker 4: injuries this, year and you know this was the. One

534
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 4: he didn't have very many holes coming out of, college

535
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: but you know one of them, was you, know the

536
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Speaker 4: body type plus the play. STYLE i, mean if you

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Speaker 4: remember remember in, college he took a lot of hits

538
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Speaker 4: and that's just a style of. Play but those start

539
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 4: to add up after a. While and then you get

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Speaker 4: to this level and the guys are bigger and, faster

541
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Speaker 4: and then you throw a little bit of bad luck in,

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00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 4: there and you, know this is where it. Is but

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Speaker 4: it's just really unfortunate to. See but, Yeah i'm sure

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Speaker 4: going back either probably, thinking, yeah we probably should have removed.

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Speaker 4: Them i'm, sure But i'm Sure quinn was, saying, look

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Speaker 4: let's let's get a score. Here he didn't play much

547
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Speaker 4: in the last couple. Weeks let's get him one series

548
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Speaker 4: and we'll get him. Out but this is what, happened

549
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 4: and it's just really. Unfortunate now the whole team has

550
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: just been hit by, injuries a ton of starters other than,

551
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 4: him and this has just been a really rough year for.

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Speaker 1: Them, okay also in a rough year for The. Bengals

553
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: they've had a lot of. Injuries but, there you, know

554
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: their defense once again can't stop. Anybody i'm not GONNA

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Speaker 1: i got my own comments on this, thing which we

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Speaker 1: have in the. PODCAST i want to get your. Thoughts

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00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: Chase brown is running back for The, bengals who had

558
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: thirty seven yards rushing the. Football by the, way he

559
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: did have eight catches for seventy five, yards and you,

560
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: know he called out the. Defense you, know you got

561
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: to get a. Stop we gotta get a. Stop we

562
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: gotta play complimentary. Football just get a stop so we

563
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: can go to victory. Formation when you're the general manager

564
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: and you hear your running back say, that what goes

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Speaker 1: through your mind?

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Speaker 4: First that he's just so. FRUSTRATED i don't Know Chase brown,

567
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 4: personally but we did a lot of work on him

568
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 4: when he was in. College he's a great kid and

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Speaker 4: he's a, leader so he just must have been totally

570
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 4: frustrated and he probably spoke out a. Turn this is

571
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 4: one of those where you'd probably bring the player in

572
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 4: as A gm to sit and down and talk to.

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Speaker 4: HIM i WISH i could hear the whole. Interview there's,

574
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: always as you, know there's always contacts. INVOLVED i know

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Speaker 4: how you feel about, it BECAUSE i just heard the

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00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: end of your podcast and, uh, yeah you're pretty strong about,

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00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: it WHICH i, get but, YEAH i mean, Oftense, well that's.

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Speaker 1: What, Tommy that's WHAT i would. Say that's WHAT i

579
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Speaker 1: would say if we're in front of the, Team that's

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Speaker 1: WHAT i would. Say behind closed, doors, okay in front of,

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Speaker 1: it in front of, EVERYBODY i would, say what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: HEY i know he's, frustrated you, know is probably taking

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00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: a lot of context whatever you saw sell, it but

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Speaker 1: behind closed, doors LIKE i don't know regardless of if

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Speaker 1: you're you can be right if they said that in

586
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 1: our in my, business and you can be, right but

587
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: you can be out of a, job like he may be,

588
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: right but you don't say.

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00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: Hey, now and he'll have to get, up be from

590
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 4: of the team and probably apologize for what he said

591
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 4: because it is still a. Team but to, me the

592
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: bigger thing Is Joe flacco is. AMAZING i, mean forty years,

593
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 4: old ac joint issue with, this with this throwing, shoulder

594
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 4: a throws for four to seventy four touchdowns behind an

595
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: offensive line that has struggled to block The joe. Burrow

596
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: so that's Been that's the huge. Story and then, defensively

597
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: like they had a huge problem defensively last. Year they

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00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: made a change of defensive coordinator that they Removed Lou

599
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 4: Andmo lou And romo's outstanding and he's showing that with The.

600
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 4: Colts we always had a hard time playing Against. Lou

601
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: this is not a scheme. Issue this is a talent

602
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: issue on that side of the. Ball on. Defense they

603
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: do have some starting caliber players on, defense but there

604
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 4: are no playmakers other Than hendrickson who's now. Out there's

605
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: just no impact at. ALL i don't know what happened

606
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: To Logan. Wilson Logan wilson is an excellent middle. LINEBACKER

607
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: i don't know if he just hasn't played well this.

608
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: YEAR i don't know if there's anything else going. On

609
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 4: he was a leader on that. Defense so, yeah like

610
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: they can't get a, Stop but at some point the

611
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 4: teams don't have to come together the head, coach the

612
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 4: player and THE gm whoever it is at this point

613
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: for The, bengals and discuss it and get get on

614
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: the right, page because you can't have that in the

615
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 4: locker room post, Games.

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Speaker 1: No you. Cannot Doug gottlieb show here On Fox Warts.

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Speaker 1: Radio Tom telesco is our. Guest of, Course tom was

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Speaker 1: former gentle manager eleven years with The, chargers last year

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Speaker 1: with The Las Vegas. Raiders, again we know The bengals

620
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: defense isn't particularly, good but is it fair to say

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Speaker 1: That Cayleb williams is getting?

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Speaker 4: Better it's so funny if The bears, win he's improving

623
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: and he's arrived if The bears, lose he's addressing in the.

624
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: Bus it's probably somewhere in the. Middle he's making small,

625
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 4: improvements but his style is a. STYLE i, MEAN i

626
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: don't think he's ever going to be a timing and

627
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 4: anticipation pocket. Passer you do see a couple throughout the,

628
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 4: game but in the end he's an off scheduled magician

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Speaker 4: and you have to lean into. It but the best

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Speaker 4: thing WHAT i saw The bears have a definite identity

631
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: right now That Ben johnson hasn't put it on, them

632
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: and this their running. Game they're in for two hundred

633
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 4: eighty three yards yesterday and they've been running the ball

634
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 4: really well this. Year that's completely change the identity of

635
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: the football. Team obviously helped Out Caleb. Williams so that

636
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 4: was my takeaway from that. Game And i'm just super

637
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: impressed By Ben jackson what he's done with the. Offense

638
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to lean into How kala, plays but

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Speaker 4: they're wearing the ball strong right. Now the offensive link's

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Speaker 4: playing very well and that had been a huge hole

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Speaker 4: for them in prior.

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Speaker 3: Years be sure to catch the live edition Of The

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Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb show weekdays at three Pm eastern Noon pacific

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Speaker 3: On Fox Sports radio and The iHeartRadio App.

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb Show here On Fox Sports, Radio Tom telesco

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Speaker 1: is in fact our, guest explain to me The Detroit

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Speaker 1: lions and what's going on with.

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Speaker 4: Them that's. TOUGH i, know the one, thing and there's

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Speaker 4: there's always a lot of little things like yesterday's. Game

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Speaker 4: they just didn't play. Well a ton of. Penalties you

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Speaker 4: gave up a block. KICK i think they gave up

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Speaker 4: a ton of. Sacks so yesterday it just wasn't a clean.

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Speaker 4: Game the issue for them hasn't always been so much the.

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Speaker 4: Offense yet issue right now is. Defense and this has

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Speaker 4: been the corner position the last couple of. Years last year,

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Speaker 4: Injury this year did the, injury and just the talent.

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Speaker 4: Level they've hit on more top picks than most, teams

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Speaker 4: But terry And arnold is just not paying dividends yet

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Speaker 4: a corner and it's hard to line up in this

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Speaker 4: league if you can't, cover and that's just a bit

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Speaker 4: a big. Hole, again it's early enough in the. Season

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Speaker 4: they're going to be. Fine they're five and, three their

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Speaker 4: offense is still very, good they're well, coached and they're,

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Speaker 4: physical but yesterday it was just way too, much way

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Speaker 4: too many. Mistakes it just they're rarely to the, lines

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Speaker 4: not play a clean, game and, yes it wasn't a clean.

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Speaker 4: Game BUT i THINK i know it's hard for us on.

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Speaker 4: Now i'm like, You i'm part of the. Media you

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Speaker 4: have to look at the big body of, work not

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Speaker 4: just kind of react off yesterday's. Game their body work

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Speaker 4: is still pretty, clean but yesterday was not a great

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Speaker 4: game for.

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Speaker 1: Them Doug Gottlieb show here On Fox Sports. Radio Tom

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Speaker 1: telesco is our. Guest what did The bills do to

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Speaker 1: Frustrate Pat mahomes throughout the FOOTBALL.

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Speaker 4: I thought they did a great. Job and this is

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Speaker 4: what in the off, season The bills made a concerted

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Speaker 4: effort to improve, defense and you could see just with

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Speaker 4: the pass rush. Yesterday Joey bosa was. Outstanding Greg grusseau

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Speaker 4: without saying both of those guys were. Relentless they consistently

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Speaker 4: won their one on ones against The chiefs. Tackles the

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Speaker 4: chief tackles are not, strong but those guys really bottled

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Speaker 4: up their rush and then The bill's having a chance

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Speaker 4: to play more man coverage against The chiefs that's. Helpful

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Speaker 4: Max harrison is a, Rookie he's a first round draft.

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Speaker 4: Pick he's got out standing speed and man. Coverabilities they

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Speaker 4: dropped him in the first round for a, reason probably

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Speaker 4: with the with the focus on how do we play

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Speaker 4: against The, chiefs and he fit well and he can

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Speaker 4: cover The chiefs receivers with the speed because as we

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Speaker 4: know With, mahomes when he starts scrambling and you want

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Speaker 4: to play zone against, them the more he, moves the

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Speaker 4: more the zones starts to, distort and nobody has a

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Speaker 4: better vision to the shoot with the. Ball he's he's

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Speaker 4: like a Young Doug gottlieb as a point. Guard you,

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Speaker 4: know he just he moves his, zone spinds open. Men

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Speaker 4: but if you play a man, coverage it's a little,

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Speaker 4: stickier a little harder to find. Guys so The bills

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Speaker 4: played a little bit more man, coverage played it, well

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Speaker 4: and then the pass which was really good from the

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Speaker 4: outside and to keep them in the. Pocket LIKE i,

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Speaker 4: Said joey played a great. Game Greg russo was just

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Speaker 4: relentless with this, chase AND i showed up.

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Speaker 1: What. Happened The colts were kind of humming along there

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Speaker 1: up early and then The steelers unbelievable second quarter that

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Speaker 1: kind of put put The colts on their heels. AGAIN

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Speaker 1: i keep asking the, question which which is the Real? Colts?

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Speaker 1: Right but they. Did they had the ball more than

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Speaker 1: The steelers that they had, longer but six. Turnovers how

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Speaker 1: to explained six turnovers to a team that have played

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Speaker 1: in such clean football?

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Speaker 4: Today, yeah you, know it's funny because going into the

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Speaker 4: SEASON i thought The steelers are the best defense in

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Speaker 4: the league and they had not played anything like. It

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Speaker 4: but like good Like tomlin, teams they're starting to, improve

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Speaker 4: trying to figure some things. Out they traded For Kyle

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Speaker 4: duger From New. England Kyle dugger played a ton of

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Speaker 4: snaps at safety in this past. Game they Moved Jalen

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Speaker 4: ramsey to safety out of the nickel, spot AND i

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Speaker 4: always felt later In jalen's, career which is where we

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Speaker 4: are right, now he'd be an outstanding, safety and that's

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Speaker 4: where they played. Him he played very well. Yesterday they

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Speaker 4: played more, zone more zone covers With Joey porter because

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Speaker 4: that fits his. Style he's not really a man. Cover

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Speaker 4: he's not really a quick, twitch king of direction. Corner

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Speaker 4: so they started to make some tweaks on. Defense they

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Speaker 4: always have the pass, rush but the better coverage and

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Speaker 4: the back end allows the pass rush and extra millisecond

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Speaker 4: to get. There And Daniel jones always that hole With

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Speaker 4: Daniel jones is those key big. Errors it's the, sacks

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Speaker 4: that stack crumbles and the. Interceptions And steelers got after it.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday AND i think once in the second, half once

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Speaker 4: once the, game once the score got a certain, point

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Speaker 4: all of a, Sudden Joathan taylor's run game is out

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Speaker 4: the window and now a straight dropped back pass and

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Speaker 4: The colts have a very good offensive. LINE i think

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Speaker 4: this is a one, off but it was a, tough

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Speaker 4: tough run For Daniel jones there in the second. Half

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Speaker 4: but this is a type of DEFENSE i think The

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Speaker 4: steelers can play and they will play moving, forward as

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Speaker 4: it took them about half the year to kind of

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Speaker 4: figure out what's the best way to approach. It BUT

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Speaker 4: i like what they did. Yesterday tell me are the.

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Speaker 1: Best wish us some. Luck we got The jayhawks and

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Speaker 1: the fog literally later on, tonight and Then i'm headed

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Speaker 1: to your hometown On friday and take on The bulls Of.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo The bulls.

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Speaker 4: Of buffalo Awesome alumni holl just In buffalo last. WEEK

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Speaker 4: i WISH i would. Have If i'd have been there this,

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Speaker 4: WEEK i would have, gone but good. Luck, tonight go

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Speaker 4: bout to The, phoenix enjoy the field house, there and

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Speaker 4: good luck