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Speaker 1: Outrageously Dependable. My name is Clay Nucleman. I'm the host

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Speaker 1: of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your

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Speaker 1: on the planet. Chasing battery. Hey guys, we've got a

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Speaker 1: fantastic episode of the Bear Hunting mag Azine podcast. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna enjoy this one with my good friend Bernie Baron Jery,

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Speaker 1: where we're gonna talk about the color Phase Grand Slam

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Speaker 1: of Bears, which is uh which is something that Bernie

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Speaker 1: talk about kind of the biology behind color phase bears,

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Speaker 1: where they're at, why they're color phase, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: really nitty gritty bear episode. I also want to say

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Speaker 1: to subscribers right now. Hey man, we have a stinking

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Speaker 1: amazing magazine. We really do. Bear Hunting Magazine is in

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Speaker 1: its twentieth year in print and we have columns, we

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Speaker 1: stories that cover the full gamut of this extremely diverse

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Speaker 1: We we we do spotting stock stuff out west, to do

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Speaker 1: to cover the full spectrum of bear hunting in North America.

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Speaker 1: Bears live in such diverse places. There's such an adaptable

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Speaker 1: species that they different geographic regions that they live call

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Speaker 1: for different, very different, very unique types of hunting. And

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Speaker 1: that's the reason there's such a broad opportunity for bear hunting,

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Speaker 1: and that's why that there's so many different methods and

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Speaker 1: Bear Hunting Magazine. What we want to do is unite

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Speaker 1: bear hunters across North America and also create new bear hunters.

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Speaker 1: And we believe that bears are an iconic North American

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Speaker 1: The great patriarchs of our hunting heritage here on this

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Speaker 1: continent identified themselves as bear hunters, were rebranding bear hunting,

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Speaker 1: and we're doing it in great fashion inside a bear

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Speaker 1: hunting magazine. You can do me a favor by checking

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Speaker 1: out a subscription at bear dash hunting dot com. Something

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Speaker 1: that's been on my mind lately is a phrase that

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Speaker 1: what I call passionate authenticity. As we live inside of

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Speaker 1: the modern times and in twenty nineteen, it is a

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Speaker 1: difficult thing on the political spectrum to be a bear hunter.

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Speaker 1: And whether you realize it or not, bear hunting, our traditions,

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Speaker 1: are way of life, our way of scientifically managing big

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Speaker 1: that authenticity comes by us truly understanding the dynamics of

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Speaker 1: scientific wildlife management, understanding our culture. But more importantly, it

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Speaker 1: goes back to an old principle of clean the inside

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Speaker 1: This whole idea that we can't proclaim one thing and

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Speaker 1: I've got with me a good friend of mine, Bernie

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Speaker 1: You're a freelance writer. You're so you're a full time

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Speaker 1: And Bernie also has a weekly web blasts last called Bucks,

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Speaker 1: how many books? Books? Eighteen books, and so you you

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Speaker 1: talk to people who bear hunt quite a bit, um,

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00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: usually they just it's the second most uh sought after

428
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: animal other than white tail are the I guess the

429
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: best way to put it is for people who shoot

430
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: the people mostly start hunting deer. That's how they're big

431
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: the most available the second when when people go for

432
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: a second animal, it's the black bear. That's the number

433
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: one second big game, one of the most widely distributed

434
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: big game animals in North America. And if you're looking

435
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: for a little bit more adrenaline, why not go try

436
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: to shoot something that can kill you. You know they're

437
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: probably not going to, but they could. And that makes

438
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: a difference. And what I when I say, people say,

439
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: what is it about bear hunting that's so fascinating? I said,

440
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: here's one of the things. Um, if you're white tail,

441
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: if you're deer hunting, you you might see a deer

442
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: coming across the field, or you might see him, you

443
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: might hear him coming through the leaves crunch, crunch, crunch,

444
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: or something like that, and you see them from a

445
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: distance and you know they're coming. But most bear hunting

446
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: is done in thick cover, and bears are silent, and

447
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden poof, there's a bear and he's

448
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: right there in front of you, and he's a predator.

449
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: He could mess you up if he wanted. He probably won't,

450
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: but the whole adrenaline value of bear hunting is so

451
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: much greater than deer hunting for that reason. Yeah, it's

452
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: a whole different experience. You know, people people that have

453
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: never bear hunted need to try it because it's a

454
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: whole different experience hunting a large predator, and and you're

455
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: also hunting an animal from a challenge perspective, that's different

456
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: because if you think about it, most parts of North

457
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: America where we're deer hunting have deer populations that are

458
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: upwards of thirty deer per square mile and up even

459
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean, And so you're hunting animal that there's a

460
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: lot of. So you're seeing a lot of these animals,

461
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: high population of bears. It's like bear per square mile.

462
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: So when you when you think about it from a

463
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: challenge standpoint, you're you're really hunting in that you're hunting

464
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: a predator that has lower densities than ungulates, and it

465
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: can be a real challenge, especially now we hunt over

466
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: bait a lot. And when we're hunting over bait, we're

467
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: trying to be selective. We're trying to target a certain

468
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: type of animal, whether it be color phase or an

469
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: over mature mail and so we are seeing a lot

470
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: of animals, but spotting stock stuff. I mean, it's a

471
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: super challenged and the and another thing that relates to

472
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: that is the fact that the bears don't live into

473
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: suburbs really like, you know, you have to go to

474
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: places where bears live. And that's part of the fun.

475
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: That's you know, you got to go to the wild places.

476
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: That's right, yep, yep. I love to say it, and

477
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: I said all the time, is that bears are iconic

478
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: of North American wilderness. I mean, they're an indicator species.

479
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: Where you have bears, you have an ecosystem that's in

480
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: fairly good order and in fairly natural order. Because they're

481
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: at the top of the food chain. At that top

482
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: animal is thriving, it means that everything else beneath it

483
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: is going good, you know. So it's an indicator animal

484
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: that There's all kind of really unique things about about

485
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: bear hunting. But so and the color face thing is

486
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: one of them. So tell me about how just give

487
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: us a little story about how you started with color

488
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: phase grand Slam and then and then you can walk

489
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: us through the different well specifically the last one, because

490
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: that was kind of the story that was the main story. Yeah, well,

491
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: uh it. It actually happened at an archery trade show

492
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: here about eight years ago where a former owner before

493
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: you bought it, Jeff Folsom and I were here at

494
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: the show and we rode down from the h from

495
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: Minnesota together and on the way home, you know, we

496
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: were talking about ways how can we grow the sport

497
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: of bear hunting, What can we get? What what would

498
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: bear hunters be enthusiastic about? And we I said, we

499
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: need a grand slam, you know, like the sheep or

500
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: something like that. So we talked a little bit about

501
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, a polar bear, of brown bear, of black bear,

502
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: and a grizzly and it's like, you know, it probably

503
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: cost you a sixty dollars to go hunt those four.

504
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: That's how to reach for most people. But then I,

505
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, then I got to thinking about the uh

506
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: four different color phases of black bears. I said, what

507
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: if we did a black bear Grand Slam for all

508
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: four color phases? And the minute it came out of

509
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: my mouth, I knew I had to be to look Yeah,

510
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: and Jeff it. Jeff says, well, I do know a

511
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: couple of people have done it with a gun. I said,

512
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: do you know if anybody that's ever done it with

513
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: a bow? And he says, I don't. I really don't.

514
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean and there's no record keeping organization or anything,

515
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: so we don't know for sure. But I don't. I

516
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody has done it with a bow. So,

517
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, we mentioned it in the magazine a couple

518
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: of times, and nobody stepped forward and said I've done

519
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: that with a bow. So at this point, I still

520
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody else but me has ever done it.

521
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: But um, you know, so that's what started it. Nice,

522
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: I just started going on. And so at that time

523
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: you would have already killed two of the color. Yeah.

524
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: My first bear in nine nine was a chocolate in

525
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: northwest Minnesota, and then I'd killed several blacks. Do it

526
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: yourself hunts mostly and h Being with Bear Hunting Magazine

527
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: gave me an avenue to go to out because outfitters

528
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: will call Bear Hunting Magazine and say, you know, they're

529
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: looking for free publicity. They're saying, come hunt with me

530
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: and write a story about it, you know, And um,

531
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: so it gave me an outlet. The two's good areas

532
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: to go to try to find color face bears and Uh.

533
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: I went to Idaho, um and UH in British Columbia

534
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: had a really close call. I could have killed a

535
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: gorgeous cinnamon bear on the first night of the hunt,

536
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: and um it was sixty yards away and there was

537
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: a stream that was swollen by snow melt, and we

538
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: couldn't get any closer. And my guy just was like,

539
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: you know, that is a gorgeous bear. It's it's to

540
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: this day, it's the most beautiful red cinnamon and I'd

541
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: ever seen. And he wanted me to take my rifle

542
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: and shoot that bear because he knew how good a

543
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: publicity it would be for him. And I'm just like,

544
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm committed to doing this with a bow

545
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: and it's my first day. Well, I ended up on

546
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: that hunt shooting the forty second bear I saw and

547
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: it was a black one. Um. But it was a

548
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: great hunt with Eureka Peak Outfitters. Well, so it went

549
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: like that quite a bit. I went on a lot

550
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: of hunts and had some close calls. It ended up

551
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: Canning getting a cinnamon bear in with Thunder Mountain Outfitters

552
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: and UH in Saskatchewan there there near south of Laurent, Saskatchewan.

553
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 1: So so then I had two sentimon Well then, you know,

554
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 1: the interest in this really started to ramp up, and

555
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: I started thinking, there's you know, this is getting a

556
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: fair amount of publicity. There might be somebody else out

557
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: there that's got three them that's gonna try to beat

558
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: me to the punch here. You know. So now I'm

559
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really kind of ramping it up. I'm doing

560
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: like three hunts a year. UM had a couple more

561
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: close calls. Had a blonde bear in front of me

562
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: in Manitoba with Tom Ainsworth, and the bear just did

563
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: not give me a shot, and he he just walked,

564
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: he walked away, and I'm like, well, it's the first

565
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: day of a six day hunt. I'm gonna see this

566
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: bear again. Well, the third day, this bear came back

567
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: and he walked, he came in directly down when and

568
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: he didn't even get to the peril when he smelled us,

569
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: and he just turned him and left. And so UM,

570
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: that was a close call with a nice blonde bear.

571
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: Then um a couple other times that we had blonds

572
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: on camera that just we couldn't close the deal. And

573
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: uh then in I Hunted, Tom sold the business to

574
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: Todd at Baldy Mountain Outfitters. Now Todd Woldemooth owns it

575
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: and he runs it as Baldy Mountain Outfitters, and um,

576
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, he runs ads and bear Hunting magazine all

577
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: the time. So if you want to contact him, it's

578
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: it's very easy to do, and he's it's done a

579
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: really good job with it, and he's just it's an

580
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: excellent area to hunt. So Todd basically made I mean

581
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: he like kind of took over the reins and said,

582
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna figu out how to get Bernie a blondebarry

583
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: you know well, and went up a book to trip

584
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: the first of May. Well, it was a late spring

585
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: and the lakes are still frozen up, and there was

586
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: there was some snow still in the bush, and the

587
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: hunting was bad. I mean a lot of the bears

588
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: that were just starting to come out of their dens

589
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: and they weren't um, they weren't feeding much. So I'm

590
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: just like you know, I'm just gonna have to kill

591
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: a representative bear and get a story out of this. Well,

592
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: it's like the third day, you know, we're in the

593
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: cabin in the morning and uh, Todd just burst in.

594
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: He's got a nasty card and you just stick this

595
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: in your laptop, and sure enough, he's got a blonde

596
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: bear on a bait. And I'm like, you've got to

597
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: be kidding me. So I know where I'm gonna spend

598
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: the rest of my week. Well, so I went out there,

599
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: and uh, it just it's just one of those kind

600
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: of nightmare deals where the blonde bear was a kind

601
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: of a hundred and fifty sixty pound female and there's

602
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: other bears around that were just harassing her because the

603
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: ruts getting, you know, is just starting to she started

604
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: to melgood, I guess, and the way to put it,

605
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: and she's being chased all over the place. And the

606
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: first day she was there off and on for an

607
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: hour and never got a shot. And when she would

608
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: come in, she's so nervous that she would just lay down,

609
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: take a few bites of the bait, and I would

610
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: draw my bow try to get a shot. And I

611
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: drew my bow four times on her. And by the

612
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: end of that night, when I didn't get that bear,

613
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: I was not in a great frame of mind. You know,

614
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm usually pretty calm, and I've shot a lot of

615
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: bears of the bow, so you would think that, you know,

616
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: if there's just such a thing as buck fever, Um,

617
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: I was. My decision making ability was going downhill. I

618
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: guess is that's the way I like to put it. Okay,

619
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: So the next day, the same thing happened again. She

620
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: came in and uh um, I drew on her and

621
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: I almost shot, and then she bolted out of there,

622
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you know, my I'm really getting

623
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: frustrated and start a panic really because I'm thinking, here,

624
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: all these years I've been trying to get a blonde.

625
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: I got one right in front of me, and I

626
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: can't get a shot. So she came back and the

627
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: same thing happened, and I I I just got in

628
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: a situation where I just rushed the shot and I

629
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: just really blew it hit the bear high and the

630
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: shoulder blade, and it got pretty good penetration. We had

631
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 1: a pretty good blood trail, and we followed the blood

632
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: trail that afternoon and to a point where it just disappeared.

633
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: And I've never seen a blood trail that good. Just stop.

634
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: We Todd and I were literally looking in the trees

635
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: around was trying to figure out if she went up

636
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: a tree or something. It's like you lifted her out

637
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: of there with a helicopter. And uh so we came

638
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 1: back the next morning with everybody at camp came out

639
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: to try to help me find this bear, you know,

640
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: and we never did find it. And just I mean,

641
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: it was the lowest point in my hunting career. So

642
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: when um and the first week it is and there's

643
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: nothing like it. I'll tell you what trying to do something,

644
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: what you're what you're like, what you're trying to do

645
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: and had this specific, very specific goal. Yeah, it's hard

646
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: to find because that's that's the point of what you're

647
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: in here, is that it's hard to target blonde bear. Yeah,

648
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: I mean probably probably less than two of bears or

649
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: blonde you know what you think about it, probably less

650
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: than that. Yeah. Really, if you're talking about the total

651
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: population in North America, maybe up in that certain region,

652
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: maybe one percent of them would be blonde. But yeah,

653
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: well so, um, I had a trip book the first

654
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: week in June UM to go to Northern Saskatchewan, which

655
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: would have been a month after this trip. And interestingly,

656
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: I had met Mark bell Chamber, he's with Big Spruce Outfitting,

657
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: at a UH sports show in Minneapolis, and uh, I

658
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: just noticed that on his banner behind his booth he

659
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: had a you know, I had a bunch of pictures

660
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: of people with bears, and one one was blonde. So

661
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: I stopped talking to him a little bit and he

662
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: opened up his photo album and I'm like, you've got

663
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: quite a few blonde bears in this photo album. You

664
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: got blonde bears? And he goes yeah, and uh. So

665
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: I got to talking to him and he um. He

666
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: became pretty convinced right away that he was going to

667
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: book me. I mean he just he well the um.

668
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: So we kind of talked for about a year back

669
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: and forth. He started texting me pictures of blonde bears

670
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: and and um the next year at the same show.

671
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: Then I really talked to him and I said, okay,

672
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: you know, let's get serious about this. And he says,

673
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: I want to get Saskatchewan Tourism involved because they have

674
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: a lot of thank you, they have a lot of

675
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: interest in bringing bear hunters through Saskatchewan tourism. So he says,

676
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: I want to get them involved. So if you get

677
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: a blonde bear, they can benefit from the publicity. So, um,

678
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: they paid for my flight and everything to get up there. Well, um,

679
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: so I end up going to know this is an

680
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: elite hunt really because it's way the heck up there.

681
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: It's it's right just south of the border of Northwest Territories.

682
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I drove to Saskatoon, but then

683
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: flew from there and they stopped a couple of small communities.

684
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: This little plane, it's one of these planes where every

685
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: every seat is a window seat, you know, and I

686
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: think there's eight people on it. And then we landed

687
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: a landing strip of a uranium mining company. There's not

688
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: even a town there, it's just a uranium mining company

689
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: owns a landing strip. And from there, Um, he's got

690
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: these uh little Suzuki Samurai truck things, you know what

691
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: they look like, and they have Yeah, he's got a

692
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: lift kid in him and stuff like that. It's a

693
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: twenty two mile ride, like a four wheeler ride in

694
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: one of those out to where you're getting a boat

695
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: and then your boat out to his camp. On an island.

696
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: So that's it's quite an endeavor to get there. Well,

697
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: when I when I landed at this landing strip, uh,

698
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: floatplane comes up and lands right there and there's four

699
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: other people standing out on the dock. And I walked

700
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: down there and I said, you guys bear hunting. They're

701
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, we're going out to hunted big spruce

702
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: outfitting with Mark. I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm he's coming

703
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: to he's supposed to be coming to get me in

704
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: uh this this samurai thing. And they're like, oh, if

705
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: you're going out there with them once, you just jump

706
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: in with us and riding the floatplane will take a

707
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: fifty minutes instead of two and a half hours. I'm like,

708
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm all over that, you know. So and one of

709
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: the one of the guys was formerly played his alignment

710
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: for the Minnesota Vikings and just a big mountain of

711
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: a guy and he was really fun. Yeah yeah, and

712
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: actually all of more from Minnesota. Yeah. And uh so

713
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: anyway we get out there and um it was I

714
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 1: was really really concerned about his style of baiting because

715
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: it's so hard to get out there that he hardly

716
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: he it's very difficult to get bait to these bearstistical issues. Yeah,

717
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: well so they he feeds like a coffee can of

718
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: oats and dog food today and that's all he feeds.

719
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, you know, these bears have got

720
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: to be really irregular. And he says, I believe what

721
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: happens because there's just really nothing else for these bears

722
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: to eat in the spring up there. You know, they

723
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: might find a dead caribou or moose or something like that,

724
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: but other than that, there's nothing. There's no grass, clover,

725
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: nothing formed feet on. It's all moss and Um. So

726
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: he says, what happens is the more bigger, mature, aggressive

727
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: males tend to just kind of take over the bait sites.

728
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: And then when you bait, you know, usually they show

729
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: up within he said. We bait every day and they

730
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: usually show up within a couple of hours. So um,

731
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well, I guess we'll see if this

732
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: works or not. Well he goes and um, he kind

733
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: of splits up the hunters among the guides, and the

734
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: plan for the morning was we're gonna go check the

735
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: you know, gonna go run to baits, check the cameras,

736
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna come back and do some fishing

737
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: and have a shore lunch, and then after shore lunch,

738
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: will sit down and decide how, you know, who's gonna

739
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: hunt wear and stuff like that, and we'll spend the

740
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: rest of our afternoon hunting. So we go out there, Well,

741
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna check three baits. Will We pull up to

742
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: the second one and he pulls a card out of

743
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: the trail camera sticks at his viewer and he's like, oh,

744
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: there's a blonde bear here, and uh, I look at

745
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: the picture and it's a little like a hundred fifty

746
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: pound female. And I really, you know, I really want

747
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: to shoot a lawn bear, but I really wanted to

748
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: be something I can really be proud of, you know.

749
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of tossed between do I do I

750
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: really shoot a hundred fifty pound female? If he comes

751
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: in and then he keeps going through the pictures and

752
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: he goes, oh, there's a bigger one here, and and

753
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: I said, there's two blonde bears on this bait. And

754
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, um, you know, when was he here?

755
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: So he's going through the picture and he goes, oh,

756
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: he was just here, And I said, forget shore lunch,

757
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: can I start hunting right now? You know? And he

758
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: wasn't he like eight minutes like, wouldn't it like eight

759
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: It was like eight minutes before. I mean, it wasn't

760
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: like he was here like yesterday. Yeah, he ran him

761
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: off the bait. Yeah, basically he he probably had come

762
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: in to check the bait and when just before we

763
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: pulled up, so he was close. And matter of fact

764
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: that after I shot the bear, I'll get ahead of

765
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: myself a little bit. When we followed the bear, oh yeah,

766
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: but when we followed the blood trail, it went right

767
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: to a bed that was thirty yards for thirty five

768
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: yards been there from the barrel. So I think Mark's

769
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: theory that the bigger male bear is just kind of

770
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: take over bait. That bear just basically lived there. So anyway,

771
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: long I got to get back to where I was

772
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 1: at here the so he says, yeah, you can hunt

773
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: right now. So I go down to the boat. I

774
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: grab my uh my bow and my backpack and cameras

775
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And I'm all a big load

776
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: of stuff up there too, a ground blind. And you

777
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: have to realize that that far north, there's very few

778
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: trees that are big enough that you can put a

779
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: tree stand in the trees are under yeah, exactly. So,

780
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: so basically what they've done is put a pile of

781
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: brush up there instead a chair behind it, and that's

782
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: that's where you're gonna hunt from. Well, I got I

783
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: got settled in there kind of, and I started digging

784
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: through my stuff and I pulled my covert scouting camera

785
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: out of my backpack and I like to put them

786
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: on video and attach them to a tree right by

787
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: the bait and hopes of getting a second angle when

788
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to video. So I walk up to the

789
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: bait and I'm standing one, let's see which tree is good.

790
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: And also I caught movement out of the corner of

791
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: my eye and I look over in here is that

792
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: big blonde bear and he's fifteen yards away and he's

793
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: just walking at me like I'm not even right there.

794
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, gas my backup. I'm just backpedaling

795
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: right into the blind as your bow up here. At

796
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: this point, my bow was still in the case in

797
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: the in the boat and no in the blind blind.

798
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: Um so at that point, I just like, you know,

799
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: I got to get a hold of Mark because he

800
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: down in the blind looking for a boat, cushing for

801
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: me to sit on on this chair, you know. So

802
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: I hollered down at him. I said, the bear is here,

803
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: and he's like what he likes? And the bear stopped,

804
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: looks at him, it looks back at me, and he

805
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: looks at the ground there where the oats are, you know,

806
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: and he's just he's just kind of eyeballing me. And so, um,

807
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: he just walked eventually, he just walks right up to

808
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: the bait. And um. Then I'm digging through my backpack.

809
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: And when I was in the airport in Saskatoon, they

810
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: had dumped my backpack and they had pulled everything out

811
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: of my backpack and then they just threw it all

812
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: back in there. Well, I my plan was before I

813
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: go out to the tree stand, I was going to

814
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: go through and organize it all. Well, that all went

815
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: out the window. So I'm sitting there, I cannot find

816
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: my release, and I you know, I finally found my release.

817
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: I got the camera on the tripod, got a rolling

818
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: and everything like that, and I looked over and here's Mark.

819
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: He had walked apart way up from the boat and

820
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: east video and this bear with his phone. And so

821
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: I just knocked an arrow and I looked at the

822
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: bears broadside. I can see his ribs perfectly. So that

823
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: was that. And I eight years of trying to get

824
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: a bron blonde bear and I got one of the

825
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 1: first five minutes of the hunt, and I never sat down.

826
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: It's just crazy, and it was. What was neat about

827
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: it is that a lot of color face bears that

828
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: people kill are seem to be younger bears. I mean,

829
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: you don't, to be honest, that's probably the biggest it's

830
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: the biggest true bleach blonde bear that I've seen. I mean,

831
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: all the other ones I've seen have been lesser bears.

832
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't really understand that completely because

833
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: it I guess it's just such a small segment of

834
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: the population just not as many of them make it

835
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: to maturity. Not as many of them that make it

836
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: to maturity, you know, are going to be in places

837
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: where we're hunting. It's just a well I agree with that.

838
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: And also in the in the outfitters that have blonde

839
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: bears and people, they're more likely to shoot a shoot

840
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: a bear if it's a color even when it's a

841
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: little smaller, just because they you know, just not as

842
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: many of them get to be mature like this one does.

843
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: But this is a big, old, mature male and in

844
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: this part of the world where you're hunting, very little

845
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: hunting pressure. I mean, like the way Burning described that,

846
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: how that bear acted, you know, for somebody that's not

847
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: bated bears, if you did that in Minnesota or did

848
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: in Arkansas, that wouldn't happened. I mean, that bear wouldn't

849
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: have That bear had never seen a human being before, no,

850
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind. He no, he didn't know

851
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: what a person was. You know, he looked at me like,

852
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's moving, but what is that? You know? Yeah,

853
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: that's kind of the disorienting thing about hunting these true

854
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: wilderness bears that just have not interacted with people, is

855
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: that they they have no respect for you. I mean,

856
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: you're curious more than anything about you, but they you know,

857
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: they tend to look at something that moves, is that

858
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: that might be something to eat, you know, and it's

859
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of unnerving, but that's what's that's the beauty

860
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: of hunting Northern Saskatchewan, like where you were and these

861
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: really I would consider what you did there with with Mark,

862
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: like a you know, an adventure bear hunt. I mean

863
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: flying in a floatplane getting that far north. I mean

864
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: the wildest, the furthest that I have ever been from

865
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: civilization has been in northern Saskatchewan, even more so than Alaska.

866
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: And you're you're hunting with basically the next outfitter over

867
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: from where I'm hunting in there a hundred and fifty

868
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: miles apart. Yeah, you know that's how much the nearest

869
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: town to where we were as Wallace the Lake, which

870
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: is over a hundred miles. I'll be done. Well, that's

871
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: some spectacular country. And it's a it's spectacular, not like

872
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: the Rocky Mountains are spectacular. It's spectacular because of just

873
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: how wild and remote it is. All that I don't

874
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: know what the name of that moss is, but that

875
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: like reindeer moss, it's just just what it almost When

876
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: you're hunting up there, it feels like you're hunting on

877
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: a different planet. Trees are small. It's the boreal forest.

878
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: The Canadian Shield is a strip of granite that goes

879
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: across like all of northern Canada. And once you hit that,

880
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: like this is the way I understand the geography of Canada.

881
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: Southern Canada is like farm ground rich soils, uh, and

882
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of agriculture. And then when you get

883
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: to about northern to the middle part of the provinces,

884
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: you run into that Canadian Shield granite. See a lot

885
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: of all the all their top soil got pushed by

886
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: glaciers are down into southern Canada. Yeah, the glaciers scraped

887
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: and so anyway, the boreal forest, I'm just kind of

888
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: talking about the topography of it. But you have these

889
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: jack pines and spruce that are most six inches at

890
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: the base and it's the only things up there in

891
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: northern Saskatchewan. It's gonna be well. Black bear would probably

892
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: be the most plentiful animal up there. There's black bear, moose, wolf,

893
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: and the odd caribou. That would be the only big

894
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: game animals really up there. There's no white tailed deer,

895
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: there's no there's no beavers. That's what blew me away.

896
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: And that lake has no beavers on it. And I said,

897
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: I can't believe there's no beavers up and he says,

898
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: what are they gonna eat? There's no willows or anything

899
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: like that to speak of. There's nothing for beavers to eat.

900
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: So you know, usually usually when you're in Canada, every

901
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: lake has beavers in it, but they're they're not there

902
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: because and plus, you know, the winters are so long

903
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: that they get four ft of ice and a beaver

904
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: lodge built on a shore were line or in a

905
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: swamp or something like that that's going to freeze to

906
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: the bottom so they can't come out of there. You know,

907
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: I think you could say that wherever a beaver couldn't live,

908
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: a human probably shouldn't live. Yeah, there's no major cities

909
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: in Canada. I loved it up there, but I I

910
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: like it in the summer. Uh yeah, they have some

911
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: spectacular summers. Well this this this blonde bear that you

912
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: took completed the color face grands and you are I mean,

913
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: I guess it could be. I mean, you're the first

914
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: guy to do it that's done it inside of media

915
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: and documented and with a bowl with a bow and

916
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: uh um. So it's just it's just kind of a

917
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: fun angle to look at bear hunting because a lot

918
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: of guys would kill a bear and be that, well

919
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: I've killed a bear. I don't want to go bear

920
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: hunting again. Yeah, this kind of gives a new venue

921
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: to look at it. So you know, even if you

922
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: if even if a guy didn't set out to do

923
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: the color phase Grand Slam, maybe he would maybe just

924
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: be like, hey, I want I'd like to kill a

925
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: blonde bear. Maybe that's his goal, and it kind of

926
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: is fun when you do it like that. But you

927
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: can watch the video of your hunt on your bow

928
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: hunting Road. If you go to YouTube and search for

929
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: bow Hunting Road, you'll come up with my YouTube channel.

930
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: Tap that. In YouTube, you can see the moose video.

931
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: You can see the bear and the den video. And

932
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: what's the color phace bear video called. It's probably it's

933
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: called something to do with grand Slam. I guess I

934
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: don't remember exactly what I called the color face. Grand

935
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: Slam has the word blonde in it somewhere, Yeah, it

936
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: probably does. Yeah, well, I did two videos. One, I

937
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: just did the video of the hunt where I took

938
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: the blonde bear, and then I did another longer video.

939
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 1: It's like a thirty minute video where I walked people

940
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: through each of the four and showed footage from each

941
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: of the four different bears that I shot. So there's

942
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: two different ones on there. Yeah, well that's really neat

943
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: and uh um. Yeah, I would just I would just

944
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: encourage people to, oh do it, you know it. It's

945
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: a challenge and even if you if you even if

946
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: you aren't going to do the Grand Slam, just go

947
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: try to shoot a color face bears or you know,

948
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: just continue to bear hunt and challenge yourself through bear hunting.

949
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: There you know you've got color face bears. Another kind

950
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: of a milestone is as a Boon and Crockett bear.

951
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: Another milestone might be a five hundred pound bear. You know,

952
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 1: every everybody talks about deer like you know, I always

953
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: want to shoot him one fifty or I want to

954
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: shoot one seventy or a ten pointer or whatever. You know,

955
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: bear bear hunting has that too, if you just look

956
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: for what the challenges are and you know, challenge yourself

957
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: to go do it and don't be afraid to try

958
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: something really new and difficult. And you know it's like uh,

959
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: Donny Vincent said in one of his videos, he said,

960
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: if you want to experience fantastic things, you have to

961
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: put yourself in fantastic places. And that's you can really

962
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: do that with bear hunting for sure. Well, I thanks

963
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: for being on the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'm sure

964
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: we'll do this again. You can read Bernie's call him

965
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: every month or every other month in our magazine. He

966
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: writes the bow hunt and column and uh yeah, check

967
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: out Bear Honey Magazine for the big fish in small pond.

968
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: Only bear hunting magazine the world. Do you know we've

969
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: been in print for twenty years this year? Oh yeah,

970
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: that's cool. I think I must have wrote about the

971
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: first issue, write two thousand. Two thousand was the first

972
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: year I wrote an article for him. Well, that's that's

973
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: when it started. Yeah, okay, cool. So you've probably been

974
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: in there every year since then, probably just about yeah. Yeah,

975
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: Well now bar Honey magazine. So check out our our

976
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: print magazine. And I keep trying to tell people that

977
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: have never actually picked up the magazine. It's a nice magazine,

978
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: quality paper. Everything may be a little biased, but good

979
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: quality paper, good quality quality, discontent, and we we work

980
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: like crazy to really bring the best bear hunting content

981
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: in the world to people. I think we're I think

982
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: we're doing it well. Nobody else will do anything like it.

983
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: You're you're the best because you're just about the only one. Hey, man,

984
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: I'd rather be I'd rather be that than be rather

985
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: be lucky than good,