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Speaker 1: up on us while here, don't fuck with us. When

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00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: them niggas told on me, Man, it ruined everything I had.

434
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: Somebody that I was dealing with for ten years didn't

435
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: mind getting with the police and set them for and

436
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: set me up in some kind of bullshit scenario that

437
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm still allegend to this day was untrue. I moved

438
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: past it. I don't want to seek any retribution for it,

439
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: but I do. I continue to say that I was

440
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: placed in a scenario with someone that I was with

441
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: for ten years, that I helped them, that I knew

442
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: their father, I knew their brother, and knew all these

443
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: scenarios where I would know where their mother lived at,

444
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: I knew where their father lived at, and I had

445
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: to kind of power to send somebody over there to

446
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: check on a dog. Now I had to right. So

447
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: when that happened to me, it did something to the

448
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: lens that I view all of this shit out of

449
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: like friend and ships, business relationships. That's why even in

450
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: the industry, I gotta be careful because these rap dudes

451
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: will tell you I'm gonna do an interview and then

452
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: you don't see them, and then if you say something

453
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: it seemed like you're overreacting. But if you put the

454
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: press game down when they come through your town, is

455
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: that overreacting? Because I guarantee if you come this is how,

456
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: this is what happens to rappers, especially for people like me.

457
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: You do a certain thing and then you come through

458
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: my city and then some kind of way, them boys

459
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: get on you. Them boys on my city get on you.

460
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: They got your necklace, They done took you your ring

461
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: and your watch. And then you need somebody to get

462
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: your shit back. And guess who you want to reach

463
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: out to. You want to reach out to somebody like me.

464
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: And so this is how you This is how a

465
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: lot of them old school niggas in the game made

466
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: you rap. Niggas tap in, they would get you. Niggas

467
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: rob get you. Niggas shit took, make niggas say they

468
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: threatening you when you get there, like and make you

469
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 1: have to run to them, because that's what happened. All

470
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: these niggas. They go to running the folks when shit

471
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: pop off. Next thing you know, they got pictures with

472
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: Jay Prince, you understand me, nigga and Beef. Next thing

473
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, they got pictures with Big U. You know

474
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It be a lot of this shit

475
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: going on. It's like, Yo, I'm seeing through a lot

476
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: of this shit because I'm knowing I'm big general in

477
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: my city. So if I want to, I can turn

478
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 1: the heat up on. Anybody come through here and it aint.

479
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: Can't nobody stop it. You can't make a phone call

480
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: in my town, they can stop whatever I got going on.

481
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: I don't fall under nobody. You dig what I'm saying.

482
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: So I can turn the heat on and make it

483
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: hot and make a rap nigga scramble or make it

484
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: entertain a scramble. But that's what That's how I believe

485
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people has been ranting into some of

486
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: these crews and clicks, because when you go through this city,

487
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: the club designs on the load. We the one helped

488
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: them rebuild it. We ain't on no paperwork, but shot

489
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: fifty wrecks through there. Yeah, we gave them ninety thousand.

490
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: Start their restaurant the everybody go to like so we

491
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: know when you hear where you at, what dough you

492
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: using to come out. They serve people like me and

493
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: my city like they serve y'all when y'all come to

494
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: my city. So the same routes they take you through

495
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: them back doors, we know them back doze. They the

496
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: back doze. They take us through the same restaurants and

497
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: how they get y'all in and who moving with y'all yo,

498
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: br I remember talking to elt on my podcast and

499
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: he said, long, they depend on you for safety when

500
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: they come to your town, Like if you're a promoter,

501
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: he said, if you're a promoter and a rapper come

502
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: to your town, they depending on you for safety. You

503
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: know they whereabouts and they'll come down there and shuck

504
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: the promoter. Yeah, nah, man, I ain't doing nothing, you know.

505
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: I remember one time when I booked people like I

506
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: had booked Young Drove and drove them. Don't even know

507
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: that that's me right now, Like Young drove them. They

508
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: don't even know I'm the same person at twenty years old.

509
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: I had booked him. I booked Walker Flocker. I was

510
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: booking niggas, but just like I am now, I didn't

511
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: let nobody in on it from my city. So when

512
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: dro got there, I come to find out that because

513
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: I didn't own the club and I didn't let nobody in,

514
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: they was doing some backdoz shit on me. Like soon

515
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: as people was pulling up before the parking lot even

516
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: filled up, they were saying fifty the pall. Then they

517
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: threw a free party the same day to try to

518
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: x smiut I didn't know none of this. At the time,

519
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: I was new in the game. I'm coming in with

520
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: street money, so I'm just saying, Yo, let's book some niggas,

521
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: get some shows going. We gotta figure this out. And

522
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: young Dro still don't know to this day. I'm that

523
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: dude that booked him when I was twenty years old.

524
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: Twenty one years old. We had a relationship for a

525
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: second and then it faded off, but I still paid

526
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: Dro even though the turnout wasn't really good to turnout,

527
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: didn't turn out like it needed to turn out. They

528
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: had a free all black part around the corner, and

529
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: they were slick hating on me because I didn't lett

530
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: nobody in on the deal. They had asked me when

531
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: I started pushing on the radio and doing shit that

532
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: I would start. I start throwing parties. And for those

533
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: of you that's in the promotional field, you know that

534
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: it's a clicking crew that party shit. All these niggas

535
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: in different cities, they kind of be knowing each other.

536
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: I come out the street saying, man't fuck them niggas,

537
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: clicking crew, nigga. I'm just finna spend some money and

538
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: do it myself. So they would hit me up long

539
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: can I be a part of it? I can invest

540
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: or put this much in it, and I can handle

541
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: this part. Nah Nah, I'm good, fam, Naw, I'm good, Fam.

542
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: I was showing everyboy off. And I think that I

543
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: still can't confirm it, but I do think that that

544
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of hating going on with that.

545
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: But let's get back to why I say wood It?

546
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: Why I said wood it after telling police all that

547
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: he's already told him in some of these interviews. In

548
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: his words, he was lying to try to get out.

549
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: But after speaking to them in detail and at length,

550
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: he then comes the trial and he pleased the fifth.

551
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: When Y said wood he pleased the fifth, he does

552
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: it in a way that affects the trial. Well, what

553
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: do you mean, if you're gonna plead the fifth, then

554
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: the state really is not supposed to put you up

555
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: on the witness stand because it tanks the jury. What

556
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: was even more interesting is is that throughout this trial,

557
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: I think, with ninety days, in the entire time, you've

558
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: heard them say what wood He told us this? And

559
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: Woody was a killer, and Woody was this boogeyman, and

560
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Woody was one of the people that thug used to

561
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: do this X Y and Z after the Donovan Thomas murder.

562
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: Woody was someone that they flew to Miami to quote

563
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: unquote laid low because it was getting hot in the street,

564
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: paid for by young thug. These are the things that

565
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: they have mentioned throughout the trial. And so for Wooded

566
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: to then get up there and say I'm pleading the

567
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: fifth live while the jury is in the box was

568
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: a mistake on behalf of the state and the judge.

569
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: And so now this turns into a whole different scenario

570
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: if you ask me, this trial has went off the rails.

571
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: Luchi has already got his couple of months left, he

572
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: gonna be out, maybe got some kind of probation. Thug

573
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: is going through what he's going through. But this particular

574
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: trial has been off the rails. So after wood he

575
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: is now brought in the court. Here's some of the

576
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: video of him pleading the fifth Let's go hart.

577
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: Miss couple, go ahead and proach witness before you sit down,

578
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: if you would turn and face depthty handed his horns

579
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: and witness.

580
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 6: You swear from test the truth for whole from never

581
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 6: but two's ever make me see he states your first

582
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 6: and lass language on both leads. You said it again,

583
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 6: first and last name with the spelling both leads.

584
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: Uh, Kenneth Copey, mister Coplan, do me a favorite.

585
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 5: Put your chair up as close as you can in

586
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 5: the microphone and speak directly into it so we can

587
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 5: all hear you. So if you could stay and spell

588
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 5: your first one Las's name for the record, police Kenneth Copeny.

589
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: Spell it? Please k E N N E t h

590
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: c O p E l A n D. Thank you, sir.

591
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: All right, and mister Copland, good afternoon. Do you want

592
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: to be.

593
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: Here, ma'am?

594
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: Do you want to be here?

595
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: I'm here?

596
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: Okay? Well, are you gonna let me ask you some questions?

597
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: Okay?

598
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: How old are you? Okay? What does grown mean?

599
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm under adulp?

600
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 4: Okay?

601
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: And when you said you're an adult, what number of

602
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: years are you?

603
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 3: I pe the fifth? Ladies and gentlemen, can I get

604
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: you a step outside to your headquarters the jury deliberation

605
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: place from all right?

606
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: I can't even kept that one. I knew he was

607
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: a bug out. None of my partner y'all didn't tell

608
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: me he was no bug out. Now he a bug out? Yeah?

609
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: How old is you? Grown? How old is that an adult. Yeah,

610
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: how many years is that? I pleaded the fifth? Yeah,

611
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: like they ain't got no video? Yeah, he up at

612
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: rocking to plead the fifth, like ain't no videos or nothing. So,

613
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I believed them to allow him to

614
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: go in this inconsistency route where he's saying anything and

615
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: everything and then they bring in the videos. That's me.

616
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: But that video right there was where he just immediately

617
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: pleaded the fifth in front of the jury. If you

618
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: saw what I just saw and heard what I just heard.

619
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: The judge then said, what a jurors? Can I get

620
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: you to step out? Because they are never supposed to

621
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: hear that. Let's look at some more.

622
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: All right, ladies, John, please you see our jury has

623
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: left us, uh, mister Copeland, given the fact that you

624
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: have invoked your fifth Memon privilege, but the state has

625
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: already given your immunity under twenty four Dat five five

626
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: O seven. This court holds you in wilful contempt. And

627
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: we'll see you on Monday and we'll see, we'll see

628
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 3: if we can get some more testimony at that point

629
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: in time. Take them into custody, all right, stay teveny

630
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: of the witnesses, you plan on calling this afternoon. Okay,

631
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna do, as I'll call our jury and

632
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 3: tell them that we're gonna you're gonna be in recess

633
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: for the for the weekend and we'll uh, well, we'll

634
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 3: come back on Monday.

635
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: And then.

636
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 4: The jury is excused. Would you please entertain emotion for.

637
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 3: As mister Steele, I'll entertain it right now.

638
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 4: I didn't want to hold the jury twenty five.

639
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 5: And what's the basis for your miss trial? We didn't

640
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 5: know he was gonna invoke. We didn't know what he

641
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 5: was gonna testify to, and I certainly didn't let him.

642
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 5: He only had was only asked one question. So at

643
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 5: this point in time, there's.

644
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: There's no school expertise. But I have saw and watched

645
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: enough of these trials and some of these interviews videos.

646
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: I was allowed for the old JA things. So I've

647
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: watched some of court systems and how they work, and

648
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: so I know that I know enough to know that

649
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: there's loopholes in every single law for people to wiggle out,

650
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is for the people that created the

651
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: laws to wiggle out, and so only they would know

652
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: how to wiggle out of some of this stuff. The

653
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: reason why I believe black folks to be convicted at

654
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: an alarming rate is because we don't have the money

655
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: to hire the people that know how to wiggle out

656
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: some of these legal loopholes that clearly is there. You

657
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: can see the same case, you can see the same

658
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: kind of people affected, you can see the same kind

659
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: of charges a minister, but you will see a different

660
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: outcome depending on who it is and who represents them.

661
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: But the reason why, that's why I say a woody

662
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: thing is so crazy. The rules layout that the jury

663
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: cannot hear a witness plead the fifth right. If the

664
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: rules lay that out. Now they're going to argue what

665
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: they only asking one question, and they only asked them

666
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: what was his name and how old was it? So

667
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: that's not anything pertinent to affect the trial. And so

668
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: they go into these gray areas and depending on the

669
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: judge in those kind of matters, can get these cases

670
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: either throughout or he'll say continue with the trial. Now

671
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: let's hear him and bride still go total toe about

672
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: this scenario.

673
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, you can't knowingly let a witness

674
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 5: invoke their Fifth Amendment privilege under that in front of

675
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 5: a jury. Button that didn't happen in this case. Last

676
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 5: thing we heard from mister Copen was he was going

677
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 5: to testify.

678
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: So everything you say, I'll adopt it, because I was

679
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: about to say those words based fin information belief. I'd

680
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: like to call witnesses from the prosecution. I was told

681
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: I do not have the personal information. But I was

682
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: told that mister Copan made that note.

683
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: Here's something else that I don't appreciate that I think

684
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: the courts need to address is if you see on

685
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: this screen right here, this woman mislove with the short

686
00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: hat cut. You know, she does a lot of facial weeks, expressions,

687
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: a lot of emotional outbursts that can affect the way

688
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: the jury understands what's happening. So if Brian still steps

689
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: up and says objection, and then she throws her hands

690
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: up and do this emotional outburst, that can start to

691
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: resonate to the jury that Brian Steele is trying to

692
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: waste time or he's playing semantics. Brian Steele has the

693
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: right to object as well as the state. You can object, right,

694
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: and so if you watch this young lady, she continues to,

695
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: in my opinion, influence the jury to be biased and

696
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: look at things the way that she sees them through

697
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: the lens that she sees them through. Now they can't

698
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: see Brian Steele. He's not within that eyeshot. She's sitting

699
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: directly next to the jury, directly next in front of

700
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: the jury, having emotional outbursts. I think that'll be a

701
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: dressed soon.

702
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 3: Everything you say, I'll adopt it, because I was about

703
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: to say those words based on one information belief I'd

704
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: like to call witnesses from the prosecution. I was told

705
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: I do not have the personal information, but I was

706
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: told that mister Coplan made that known to officers of

707
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: the prosecution team prior to being called right now. But

708
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: it's what I But it's what I was told. I mean,

709
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: the last thing the court knew, and he has counsel.

710
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 3: If a party knows that a witness is going to

711
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: evoke the Fifth Amendment in front of a jury, which

712
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: poisons us, I mean, there's no doubt it prejudices mister

713
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 3: Williams at all, all of them, because this trial's been

714
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: going to now, I believe, eight months, in front of

715
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: a jury, and they've heard mister Copland's name. However, in

716
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: Times of Court, reporter say that's what we've heard. No,

717
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: so the juriors have heard Kenneth Copeland as well opened

718
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: on him that he's a killer. We cross examined all

719
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: these witnesses about Kenneth Hoping the state talked about Kenneth Koper.

720
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: My point is, if this armble court signs that the

721
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: state knew or had reason to believe that he was

722
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 3: going to do this in front of a jury, that

723
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 3: his response was going to be I'm invoking the Fifth

724
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 3: Amendment than your honor, Yes, I adopt what you said.

725
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: Now and even looks like she moved closer to get

726
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: in the judges eyesight. Then what was the reason for

727
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: her to move closer? In that opinion, again, she can

728
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: do what she wants to do, but I think we

729
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: need to highlight some of the some of the states

730
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: practices is in some of these trials. In my opinion,

731
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: she's trying to She's trying to sway how the judge feels.

732
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: I hope the court won't be looking at her for

733
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: acknowledgment of provement or anything, but it definitely seems like

734
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: she just moved to get into the eye view of

735
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: the judge. Interesting times right now in this court room.

736
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 3: That's wrong, had reason to believe that he was going

737
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: to do this in front of a jury, that his

738
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 3: response was going to be evoke in the Fifth Amendment. Then,

739
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: your honor, Yes, I adopt what you said. That's wrong

740
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: of a party, and I'm moving from mistra because okay, okay.

741
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 5: Sorry, sir, thank you, all right, Yes, sir, it would

742
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 5: apply to everyone. Yes, miss Love, Joanna, I'd just like.

743
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 7: To put some things on the record regarding mister Copeland.

744
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 7: As we stated earlier, mister Copeland has I.

745
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 4: Don't want to interrupt you, your honor.

746
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: I'm just telling the court, I am not accepting the profit,

747
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 3: your honor, if I may, okay, But counsel gets the prophet,

748
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: mister Steele, that's my I can accept that.

749
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 5: So could you sit down and said time, sir, sit down? Okay,

750
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 5: thank you, sir. All right, Miss Love, you can complete

751
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 5: your profit, your honor.

752
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: Yes.

753
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 7: Just to relate to the court the observations that members

754
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 7: of our office have made throughout the course of this

755
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 7: morning and throughout the time and we've been getting with

756
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 7: mister Cortland.

757
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: Our cause for concern is mister Copeland's communication.

758
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 7: He is going to to us that he is going

759
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 7: to speak, that he is going to speak on the stand,

760
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 7: that he is going to testify, and watching what happens

761
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 7: when mister gets on the stand. Mister Copeland did not

762
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 7: want to have to be taken into custody. The court

763
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 7: gave him the opportunity to have present in court with

764
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 7: him someone who is supposed to be representing his best interests.

765
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 7: What we have seen is communication both verbal and nonverbal

766
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 7: between mister Copeland's supposed council and Council for Defendants, and

767
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 7: a look as if I tried from mister Copeland's supposed

768
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 7: council in the direction of Council for the Defendants after

769
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 7: mister Melnick attempted to assert for mister Copeland, mister Mathiness.

770
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 3: Let her finish. Mister please sit down and I'll let

771
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: you start, Okay, all right, thank you sir.

772
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 7: While mister Copeland is on the stand stating that he

773
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 7: wants to testify, that he will testify rather so we

774
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 7: are watching, and mister Melnick is let me capture on film.

775
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 7: The core can look at it. Mister Melnick turns to

776
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 7: the Direction of Council for the Defendants and motions like.

777
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: That's it.

778
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 7: Then, upon information and belief. As we are standing out

779
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 7: waiting for the jury to come in, mister Copland requests

780
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 7: to speak with council for the state, but mister Melnick

781
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 7: keeps walking in, walking and walking in, walking in.

782
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 3: Then as important tell you, does the important time tell

783
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: you I'm not going to testify. Oh no, I'm vote

784
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: the fitth Amendment.

785
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 8: No.

786
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 7: As what happens as mister Copeland requested to speak with

787
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 7: the state, he keeps mister Melnick keeps going in regardless

788
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 7: of mister Copland's request to speak with the state. And

789
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 7: then we learn that mister Melnick tells mister Copeland they

790
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 7: are going to hammer you. So Miss Hilton comes back

791
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 7: in and asks me, had I spoken with mister Melnan.

792
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 7: Had I told him that we are going to hammer

793
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 7: mister Copeland to say, had not made any such communication

794
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 7: with anybody.

795
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: So what we are seeing, we believe is tampering.

796
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 7: With witnesses, this particular witness, on the part of people

797
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 7: who are not the state. So we are concerned. I

798
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 7: don't know that mister Copeland's interest is being represented when

799
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 7: that interest may not be in alignment with the people

800
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 7: that mister Melnick is communicating with. On breaks and after

801
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 7: mister Copeland has communicated to this court he will testify.

802
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 7: So watching the goings on as mister Copland is not

803
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 7: on the stand. It has been publicized, it has been

804
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 7: hyped up that mister Copeland is the next witness. Mister

805
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 7: Copland is the witness, and then mister Copeland, he's been

806
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 7: nothing but.

807
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: Cordial.

808
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 7: He's been nothing but communicative with Miss Hilton during the

809
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 7: time that she has been interviewing him and speaking with him.

810
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 7: And the reason Miss Hilton was not in here just

811
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 7: now when the jury came out is that mister Copland

812
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 7: asked to speak with Miss Hilton, but mister Melnick kept

813
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 7: going back in there and going back and there, I'm

814
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 7: going back in there. And the reason that we have

815
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 7: a problem with this is that mister Copeland is not

816
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 7: facing any charges. For mister Melnick to suggest or say

817
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 7: to him that we're going to hammer him, it causes

818
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 7: us to call into question whose interests he's representing.

819
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: And so we would ask that.

820
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 7: You know what, I haven't even thought of in my

821
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 7: mind an appropriate remedy at this point, because it is

822
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 7: wrong for parties to inject themselves on behalf of purportedly

823
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 7: one person.

824
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: The allegation here is that the reason why he is

825
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: now pleading the fifth is he's been tampered with by

826
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: Brian Steele, which is Young Thug's lawyer and his whole

827
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: defense team, which represents I believe the five people that's

828
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: in this courtroom, maybe seven that's actually did not take

829
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: a deal. But I imagine that in this kind of circumstance,

830
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: that's what you allege. That's the kind of stuff that

831
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: you alleged. That's what you that's what you say when

832
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: you're witness flips. Oh, they are messing with him, like

833
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: you have to say something because you have to be

834
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: able to defend yourself. And this is what I appreciate

835
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: about the court system is that each party has a

836
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: chance to say what they need to say. They get

837
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: to interpret the rules the way that they see them.

838
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: Case law is also brought into evidence as it pertains

839
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: to strengthen in their argument about how they interpreted the law.

840
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: For me, it's a it's a mental game. It's a

841
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: mind it's a game of the minds. It's of the

842
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: highest level of mental warfare. If you ask me, it's

843
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: up there with war and all these different things like that.

844
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean because if you believe war is just handled

845
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: by pure brute force, then you're wrong. Their strategy involved

846
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: in war, and so the mental capacity of people that

847
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: are going to war needs to be of the highest

848
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: level as well. But when you look at this, if

849
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: you're asking someone like me, which whoever's looking at this

850
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: is clearly asking me, this is them pushing back on

851
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: the fact that how did he just plead the fifth?

852
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: So then you move on the day too. As you heard,

853
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: the judge did ask for them to take him into custody.

854
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: And in day two what did they do? They let

855
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: him stay. They let him stay in jail over the weekend,

856
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: and then he comes out on day two and this

857
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: is how he starts. Let's look.

858
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: Listen, good a.

859
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: Good adhim.

860
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: I gotta said bad you say one to.

861
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 7: Friday movie left?

862
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 2: I actually helped said that you were wrong?

863
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 6: Thank you God.

864
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: Listen good an.

865
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 8: Good at him?

866
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: I gotta said, bet you one to.

867
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 7: Friday movie left.

868
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 9: I actually helped old you lie, said that you were wrong?

869
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: Can you please how old you are?

870
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 3: Say that again?

871
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 8: How old you are?

872
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: Check too? And again birth? What is your birthday? This night?

873
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: Is that July?

874
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 3: I think?

875
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 5: So okay?

876
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: And are you born on July twenty five.

877
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess are you from Atlanta? I'm from Cannadville.

878
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 8: Okay?

879
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: Is that section of the city in Atlanta?

880
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: I guess yes?

881
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 8: All right?

882
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 2: And did you grow up in Mechanicsville for sure?

883
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 10: Do you say for sure?

884
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 8: All right?

885
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: And when you grew up you have siblings? Do you

886
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: have brothers and sisters?

887
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right?

888
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: And when you were younger did you live with all

889
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: your brothers and sisters?

890
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 3: Rule sir?

891
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 10: Yeah, I want to simply talk about your brothers.

892
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: How many brothers do you have?

893
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 3: Oh rules, sir Lordan Wayne?

894
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: Okay? How many?

895
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: I think three?

896
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: And what are your three brothers names?

897
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: Old rules, sir?

898
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 4: Kay?

899
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: Trade, say that one more time? You said it's fast.

900
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: Notes, Bus, Nato, Treads.

901
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: And Boss okay, Nato. What's not A's given name?

902
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 10: And you just give me the first name I just did, okay, Tres,

903
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 10: what's Tread's first name?

904
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 3: Trades?

905
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: It's Tran's first name, Ron Tress.

906
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: I guess all right?

907
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: And now is that Rodney?

908
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 3: I guess okay?

909
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: And what's the third nickname you gave me? Bous's boss Rodriguez?

910
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: I guess all right?

911
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: And when you were younger, did you go to school?

912
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: Yes?

913
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: Where did you attend school?

914
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. I went I went to a lot

915
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 3: of different school O.

916
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: What are all the schools you went to?

917
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: I don't recall a lot or just some me summer them.

918
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: I only know when Slater Slater?

919
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: Is that elementary school?

920
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 10: Or middle?

921
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: Why you don't remember when middle school you went to?

922
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 2: Did you go to middle school? I think?

923
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: Asked them I did.

924
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: How long did you go to Did you finish middle.

925
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 3: School or ruled? Yeah? I think?

926
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: Okay? Did you go to high school at all?

927
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? All right?

928
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: When you went to high school? Did you go to

929
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: south Side?

930
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

931
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

932
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 3: Or rules? Sir?

933
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 2: Did you graduate high school?

934
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: Nope? All right?

935
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 2: Do you remember what year you left high school?

936
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: No?

937
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: All right? After high school? Did you work? No? What

938
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: did you do after high school? You weren't working?

939
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: Say that again?

940
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 10: Did you do anything?

941
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: If you weren't working, what were you doing?

942
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: I don't recall.

943
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: Are you married?

944
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: Nope?

945
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 2: Are you in a relationship?

946
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 3: Nope?

947
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: Do you have children?

948
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 3: You know that?

949
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I do, but the jury doesn't. Do you have children?

950
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: Yep? All right?

951
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 7: How many more than one?

952
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 3: All right?

953
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 10: Do you have more than three?

954
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 3: I might ain't No, tending.

955
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's fair. Do you have two that you

956
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: know of?

957
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 3: Yeah?

958
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 8: Not right?

959
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: And how old are your two children?

960
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: The same age?

961
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: What's that?

962
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 3: I don't know? Y'all be having me and yeah, so

963
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 3: long I can come.

964
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: Were you in jail on Friday.

965
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: Prior to Yeah, I was in jail Friday.

966
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 10: Were you in jail on Thursday?

967
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 3: Thursday came? Yet? No?

968
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: Last Thursday?

969
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 10: That felt like all right when you were in when

970
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 10: you weren't in jail last Thursday, although you felt like it.

971
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: How old were your children?

972
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 3: I don't know the ages.

973
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: Are you currently working?

974
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: I mean jail prior to going to jail on Friday?

975
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 4: Are you currently working?

976
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 3: Mm?

977
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: Nope?

978
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: Right now?

979
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 10: You talked about being in jail, which was on Friday

980
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 10: prior to any of this.

981
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: Do you have any criminal convictions?

982
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 3: Of course?

983
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: Okay?

984
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: Do you know?

985
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 2: Offertand how many?

986
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 3: Don't keep up with it?

987
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 10: Tell the jurors the types of crime that you've been

988
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 10: convicted of?

989
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 8: Good types?

990
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: Drown without license?

991
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: Okay?

992
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 8: What up?

993
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: Down with suspended license? Graining from the pollee?

994
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: All right?

995
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 3: What up? Let me?

996
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: Do you have a thought?

997
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 3: You're putting chuges on me? So I go to jail

998
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 3: for chuges I throw on me.

999
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: Okay, do you have a conviction for thatt I taking.

1000
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 3: You tell me?

1001
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: Do you recall having conviction for thatt I take up

1002
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine?

1003
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 3: What did I take?

1004
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: M Yes or no?

1005
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened in two thousand and nine.

1006
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 2: Do you call have any convictions for aggravat assault?

1007
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 3: Probably? So?

1008
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,479
Speaker 2: What about conviction for entering auto?

1009
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1010
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: What about the terroristic threats? What about do you have

1011
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: a conviction of terrorist quest?

1012
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 3: I think it aggravated? Help whatever.

1013
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: Now, as you see, after day, after spending three days

1014
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: in jail for some reason, Woody doesn't want to plead

1015
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: the fifth anymore and he agreed to testify. This now

1016
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: calls in the question how did that change so quick? Again?

1017
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: I believe they have a strong case for an appeal

1018
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: with all of the blunders that's been happening along in

1019
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: this trial, but in particular with Woody going to jail

1020
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: for three days and now testifying. You ask yourself, how

1021
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 1: do you get there? Well, we may have an answer

1022
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: here by Brian Steele when he confronts the Judd about

1023
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: exactly what he heard. And this is where bombshells would

1024
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: drop that Kenneth Copeland a k a. Little Woody had

1025
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: met with the judge and the prosecution without Young Thug's

1026
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: lawyer being present or made aware of any such meeting.

1027
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: Let's look at how this transpires in court and how

1028
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: it plays out.

1029
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 4: Sorry, I have an emotion that I need to make

1030
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 4: outside the.

1031
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: Pregnice of mister all right, you can make it right now,

1032
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 3: is he?

1033
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: Is he?

1034
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: Out?

1035
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: Let me?

1036
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 3: Is mister Copland out? Okay? Okay, good? All right, yeah,

1037
00:55:53,840 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: thank you. Don't quiet the way I understand my consciousitutional

1038
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 3: obligations pursuing to the sixth and fourteenth amendments of United

1039
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 3: States Constitution the corresponding sections of the Georgia Constitution. I'm

1040
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 3: required to make a full and complete statement to the

1041
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 3: court for the record, and if for God forbid, this

1042
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 3: goes up on appeal for the appellate courts or another

1043
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: tribunal commission or administrative body. I was told, based upon

1044
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: information and belief, that when we arrived at eight thirty

1045
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 3: nine o'clock today, we did not come into your courtroom

1046
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 3: until almost eleven eleven thirty. And what I found out

1047
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 3: just recently this is not waived. Is that supposedly in chambers,

1048
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: assignable court, hoble court reporter at times, honorable Court, at

1049
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 3: times district attorney or district attorneys from the DA's office,

1050
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: as well as investigators, sheriff deputies, mister Copeland and his

1051
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 3: council met together. None of the defense team, to my knowledge,

1052
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: was aware that this was going on. It was told

1053
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 3: based onon information belief that it was told to the

1054
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 3: disc attorneys that mister Copeland intended to plead the Fifth Amendment.

1055
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 3: Then I was told, based upon information belief that Adrian Love,

1056
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: the lawyer for mister Copeland, and this court were together

1057
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: and mis Loved made representations that John Melnick supposedly spoke

1058
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 3: with some attorneys for the accused and wrote an email

1059
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 3: to miss Love to Adrian Love stating that Miss Melling

1060
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 3: dies not represent the witness, and that mister Melnick wrote

1061
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 3: an email saying FU. And then somehow that email was

1062
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: c seed to me that never start. Can I interrupt

1063
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 3: you in just a second.

1064
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 5: I'm kind of disturbed because that sex party, all that

1065
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 5: was an ex partey conversation.

1066
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 3: How did you find out about any of that? Well,

1067
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,959
Speaker 3: I'm going to disturb too, And the reason I'm asking

1068
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 3: you a question, and how did you find out about it?

1069
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you the question, Okay, scuttle, If

1070
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: you look at SCU D D er versus State, which

1071
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: is two ninety eight Georgia four three eight, it's Division

1072
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: two seven eight two Southeast two D six three eight

1073
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, our highest court says when a court meets,

1074
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: because mister Copland comes in meets with the court, the

1075
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 3: court supposedly made statements, which I assume is somehow what

1076
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 3: accurate baseballon what you just said. We're entitled, mister Williams

1077
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,959
Speaker 3: and every other person wrongly charge here is entitled under

1078
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 3: the Georgia Constitution to be present.

1079
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 5: That's a pretty good stage. It's just like when you

1080
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 5: meet with me, and you and mister Adams meet and

1081
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 5: others have met with me. It's it's those Rexs party

1082
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 5: for a lot of different other reasons. But I will

1083
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 5: I will certainly note that for purposes record.

1084
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going forward. What I was told was that

1085
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 3: mister Copland said, and you haven't answered my question yet.

1086
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: I'm not how to use that question. You're not no,

1087
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: I will not answer that. Why will you not answer

1088
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: that question? Because I want to make sure that what

1089
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 3: I say is accurate, and I'm not trying to No, No,

1090
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 3: I'm asking you, how did you get this information? Telling

1091
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 3: the court what I'm saying is based fine information. Okay,

1092
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: well listen, If you don't tell me how you got

1093
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 3: this information, then you and I are going to have

1094
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: some problems. We can have this. I have problems right now, Okay,

1095
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: I know. Look I don't I don't want to know

1096
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: about your problems. Okay, at this point in time. All

1097
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 3: I'm asking you at this point in time is how

1098
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 3: did you come upon this information? Look, if the case

1099
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 3: gets reviewed, the record is going to be available for

1100
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: for for O appellate court and for whatever reason. But

1101
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 3: it's disturbing that how, somehow you have surreptitiously gotten information

1102
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 3: in regards to the court's private exparty conversations with a party.

1103
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm Arnie witness who has sworn in Friday.

1104
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 3: The Court's telling this is what I was told. If

1105
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 3: it's not true, not true, this court you're standing, tell

1106
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,959
Speaker 3: me how you got tell me how you got the information. Listen,

1107
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: tell me how you got the information. Then we can

1108
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 3: go ahead and go forward. I'm not going to say that.

1109
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: What I'm going to say is this I was told,

1110
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: and I hope this.

1111
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 5: Concerns the court. It concerns me that you have proprietary information.

1112
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 5: Why is it for information that that that you should

1113
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 5: not be having?

1114
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 3: That was ex party? Why with a party? Why State

1115
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 3: of Georgia? How about the witness? How about mister Copeland

1116
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 3: who supposedly announced he's not testifying and he'll sit for

1117
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 3: two years, and then supposedly that's this honorable court. Okay,

1118
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 3: let me refers to this court supposedly said I can

1119
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 3: hold you until the end of this trial. Miss Hilton

1120
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 3: supposedly said, actually all of the defendants and then all

1121
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 3: twenty six people are disposed of. If that's true. What

1122
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 3: this is is coercion, witness intimidation, ex party communications that

1123
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 3: we have a conscious right to be present for. So

1124
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 3: I understand that you're upset towards me, but I don't

1125
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 3: know what I did, mister Steal. I want how did

1126
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 3: you come upon this information? Who told you? What I

1127
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 3: want to know is why wasn't I why?

1128
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: Sir?

1129
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold you in contempt if you don't tell

1130
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 3: me who this is? Tell me who this information?

1131
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: So you see the threats of contempt. For people who

1132
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: don't know what that means, it means I'm gonna lock

1133
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: you up as a lawyer of thirty three years without

1134
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: with a flawless record. I'm gonna send you to jail

1135
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: if you don't tell me how you got this information.

1136
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: What we're dealing with, ladies and gentlemen, is the equivalent

1137
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: of your girlfriend going in your phone. However, she got

1138
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: into your phone figured out that, Yo, you've been cheating

1139
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: on me and you have another family across the across

1140
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: the city, you have another family on the west side.

1141
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: She comes at you about the unannounced child that you had,

1142
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: and you say, YO, you broke my trust. You went

1143
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 1: in my phone. How dare you look at my phone

1144
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: when you ain't got no being in looking in my phone?

1145
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: And instead of answering the question as to you mean

1146
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: to tell me you've had another family or you've been

1147
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: married the entire time and I just slipped up on

1148
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: this information, you'll tell her you're a dirty mother for

1149
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: going inside of my phone without me knowing. That's the

1150
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: equivalent of what we're dealing with at a very low level. Now,

1151
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: what's interesting is is accord to Brian Steel right here.

1152
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: That's something you may have missed that he said. He

1153
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: said that in the meeting that you had with Kenneth Copeland,

1154
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: which is why I said, Woody and the prosecution, you

1155
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: guys let him know that not only do you lock

1156
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: him up until thug is out of the way, which

1157
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: would have probably been a mistried immediately. So that's that,

1158
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,439
Speaker 1: But not only that, but I'm gonna hold you until

1159
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: all twenty seven people are done with that says to

1160
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: him that he may be facing another five years just

1161
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: for not saying something. Now, what I believe to happen,

1162
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: and we'll get to the rest of his argument here

1163
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: in a second. What I believe to happen for Woody

1164
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: is that some legal counsel explained to him how to

1165
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: answer questions, because if he does testify and they catch

1166
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: him lying, then they get him for perjury. But we're

1167
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: gonna set that to the side for a minute and

1168
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: examine this altercation between this judge and Brian Steele, who's

1169
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: been practicing law for thirty three years. Here's a judge

1170
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: that's upset that he had up that he had a

1171
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: conversation with a sworn in witness outside of the presence

1172
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: of any legal defense team outside of the presence of

1173
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: any of the defense legal team, and now he's classifying

1174
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: it ex party, which means some kind of protected conversation.

1175
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: So now he threatens to throw them in jail. Pay attention.

1176
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 3: Well, then, answering that question, that's attorney client privileged information.

1177
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 5: I'm not an attorney client privileged unless you were in

1178
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 5: my chambers.

1179
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 3: That's the only way you can figure out I am.

1180
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I'm gonna give you five minutes.

1181
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 3: If you don't tell me, don't have to. You don't

1182
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 3: tell me who it is, I'm gonna put you in

1183
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put you in contempt because that is not

1184
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 3: attorney client privilege, attorney work product privilege. I am not.

1185
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 3: How did you How did you get that information supposedly

1186
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 3: from my chambers? Did somebody tell you I'm not? You

1187
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 3: should have told me he got five minutes? Well, I

1188
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: don't need it. I want to continue. We got this

1189
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 3: is what I was told, Mister Coper says. Mister Copley

1190
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: made statements to that he admitted to killing Donovan Thomas,

1191
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 3: and don't take my notes.

1192
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. What I imagine happened at

1193
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: that break is for him to go try to look

1194
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: at some case. I'll see how he can wiggle out

1195
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: of those whatever scenario he finds himself in. Brian Steele

1196
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: had the attorney client work product privilege. This he's he's

1197
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: going to stand on. You know, most lawyers would have

1198
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: just gave the information all this, Honorable Court, I'm gonna

1199
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: go ahead and give the information out of interests of

1200
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: DA DA DA. For Brian Steele, he's riding all the way.

1201
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: So whatever happened, and he is he is effectively putting

1202
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: him himself in a scenario where he could go to

1203
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: jail for this. Now he knows who he is, so

1204
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm not staying in jail for this. I'm sure in

1205
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: his mind he's saying, there's no way I'm staying in

1206
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: jail for no shit like this. I ain't done anything.

1207
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: And then they had a meeting outside outside of our knowledge,

1208
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: with a sworn and witness. So I have every right

1209
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: to try to bring this to the course tension. But

1210
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: you see the judge, and we've saw this before in

1211
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: Meek Mills case, where the judges get this power trip

1212
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: and they'll start slinging mud and then they'll just already

1213
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: be known in their head. Yo, I'm retiring after this,

1214
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: but I'll sling mud all around his courtroom. So he's

1215
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: basically saying, snitch on how you got the information, or

1216
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: go to jail. Brian still is saying, I'm going to jail.

1217
01:05:49,440 --> 01:06:02,439
Speaker 1: Let's pay attention to what happens after that break, All.

1218
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 3: Right, mister Steve. Before I recessed, I asked you, how

1219
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 3: did you get this information? And it is not covered

1220
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: by work product. There's only one way you could have

1221
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 3: gotten now, so I'm gonna ask you again, and I

1222
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 3: respect that, and it gives me no joy. But I said,

1223
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 3: you know, Georgia, real professional conduct, Please check me for

1224
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 3: one point six common five reads, and this is what

1225
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 3: I have. One point six. I know, I know what

1226
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 3: the rule says, but here's the thing. Well, I'm just

1227
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 3: there's only one way you could have gotten So I'm

1228
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you again, and I respect that, and

1229
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 3: it gives me no joy. But I said, you know, Georgia,

1230
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 3: real professional cond oft please check me for one point

1231
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: six common five reads, and this is what I have.

1232
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 3: One point six. I know lives.

1233
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 5: I know what the rule says, but here's the thing. Well,

1234
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 5: just what you've got, but you But in order you

1235
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 5: know you in you need to please tell me who

1236
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 5: you got it from. I'm not asking you some in

1237
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 5: substance of anything as of yeat okay, but I need

1238
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 5: you to tell me how you got the information.

1239
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 3: If you don't tell me how you got the information,

1240
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to holding contempt. I understand it. I don't

1241
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 3: want to be helping content and I don't want to

1242
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 3: hold you in contempt. But you.

1243
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 5: But it's but this is so sacricyc to have a

1244
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 5: conversation in my chambers parroted to you and others.

1245
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 3: It is that serious. Yeah, and that's why I raise

1246
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 3: it is that serious that we should have been there

1247
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 3: and scoun't happen, sir.

1248
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 5: That's a that's a whole that's a whole, separate issue,

1249
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 5: and that's that That's why, that's why ex parte conversations

1250
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 5: are recorded.

1251
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 3: Why why would it but the X party and it's party. No,

1252
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 3: it's X party because that's what the state asked me

1253
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: to do. It's just like when you asked me for

1254
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 3: an next party conversation. If never asked this on a

1255
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: court or any court to meet with me in a

1256
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 3: witness Sir, you're you're straying off the issue and not

1257
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 3: the issue is. The issue is how did you who?

1258
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 3: How did you get this information? Saying issue? I promise

1259
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 3: you I understand it. But what I'm trying to ask

1260
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 3: you is, if you look at common five, this is

1261
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 3: how I understand the law. You cannot You can't violate

1262
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 3: something and then and then use privilege, not anything. But

1263
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 3: that's why I'm saying, how did you get for information?

1264
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 3: But just listen to what trying to tell you. Okay,

1265
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 3: but you're threatening to the contemp. This would occur the

1266
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 3: privilege and one point six would occur if you if

1267
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 3: you were in the right place, right time to begin with,

1268
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 3: you weren't. Let me tell you, I'm just reading from it.

1269
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 3: But if I'm reading it wrong, I'm not trying to

1270
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 3: its stays. One point six supplies not merely to matters

1271
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: communicated in confidence by the client, but also to all

1272
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 3: information gained in the professional relationship, whatever it's sourced. So

1273
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 3: you're asking me to break your ordering up. Maybe you're

1274
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 3: asking me, I'm not saying your ordering, but to give

1275
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 3: you information. And you're saying it's not some in substance.

1276
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you I can't do that under the ballroom.

1277
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I'm going to hold you in contempt

1278
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 3: and you can. You can think about it.

1279
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 5: Five o'clock today, we'll see, we'll see where you are

1280
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 5: at that stand on that point. Because no, that's not

1281
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 5: what I that's not what I understand the rule to be.

1282
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 5: I've not asked you some in substance of what was said.

1283
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 5: I asked you how you got it. You can't do that,

1284
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 5: Yes you can, because I have an idea how you

1285
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 5: got it. Well, you're right, I have an idea how

1286
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 5: you got it. But that's improper.

1287
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 3: Soy, your idea may be wrong. And you're asking me

1288
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 3: to listen. I told you the first time, and I'm

1289
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 3: not sure.

1290
01:08:58,280 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to.

1291
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to hold you in contempt. But this

1292
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,919
Speaker 3: is that serious. Judge, you not ease. You cannot easdrop

1293
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 3: and get get information that was not not meant for

1294
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 3: you to hear at that particular point time you, Judge,

1295
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 3: listen and listen. I'll do whatever you want to five

1296
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 3: o'clock or thereafter, but one trying to tell you is

1297
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 3: your honor. This is so serious to me. We need

1298
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 3: to hear it, and I'm moving for a mistrial. It

1299
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 3: is my understanding based upon information, belief from whom, art

1300
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 3: of it, from whom. Well, I'd like to get the

1301
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 3: substance first, and then I then would okay, well, and

1302
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: then then you'll be in custody until then because I

1303
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 3: because because you need to tell me how you got

1304
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 3: the information.

1305
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 5: I'm not asking you what was said. You've already kind

1306
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 5: of given us some snippets of what you said. That

1307
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 5: tells me that somebody paroted that information to you. So

1308
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 5: you're assuming something because I told you over well, then,

1309
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 5: other than if you were if you were sitting unless

1310
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 5: you were sitting in there with a recorder, or Mislove

1311
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 5: or Miss Hilton or one of the deputies gave you

1312
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 5: that information, or Miss Weaver shot you a rough copy

1313
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 5: of the transcript, there's only one other person's left, well,

1314
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 5: your honor, and and if that person gave you that

1315
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 5: information or share that information with you, she.

1316
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 3: Probably violated privilege. Well, let me let me tell you

1317
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 3: two things. One, I don't know how that is a

1318
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 3: privileged communication. It shouldn't be because she has a client

1319
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 3: she's supposed to represent. You talk about anyways I'm not

1320
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 3: going to have like what I got.

1321
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 5: This going to make sure that I'm not going to

1322
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 5: have you for the conversation about this. I want to

1323
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 5: know the question still remains. I want to know how

1324
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 5: who gave you the information?

1325
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 3: I'd like to know what information happened outside of presence.

1326
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 3: That's really it. He can go into custody this book,

1327
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 3: I think before it needs to again declare a mis

1328
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 3: trib based upon okay, and I'm going to deny. I'm

1329
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 3: going to denomination. I'm gonna deny your most understanding. You

1330
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 3: spoke with the witness outside of our present and whenever, Yes,

1331
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: I have a Nick Partay conversation, which is which is appropriate,

1332
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 3: and you influence the witness and based on information belief,

1333
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 3: and I'd like to have that all in the record.

1334
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 3: All right, man, I don't know why that's so hard

1335
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 3: to do. If nothing happened bad, that's fine. But you're

1336
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 3: acting like, tell me who it is and don't talk

1337
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 3: about the substance. Why can't Why can't we have an

1338
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 3: issue that was outside of presence It should not have

1339
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 3: been because you got some information that you shouldn't have

1340
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 3: gotten mine. Well, we can that's that. That's for another day.

1341
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 3: So why why in the first place, I didn't know

1342
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 3: about this? Raised another way, So I raised it as

1343
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 3: soon as we found out about Well, I gave you

1344
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 3: the case I'm relying on. I assume you read it.

1345
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 3: If you didn't read it, you should read it. It's

1346
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 3: a material part, a critical part of the case. When

1347
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 3: a judge speaks with a witness outside the presence of

1348
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 3: the accused. The court has said it's right there on

1349
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 3: Division two. That is a material or critical part of

1350
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: the case. And it's an automatically diversal mister Steele. But

1351
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 3: you're acting like it's mister Steele, that is not when

1352
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 3: when that is not the case, when somebody discloses information

1353
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 3: and a ex partey conversation that that the one of

1354
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 3: the parties lawfully asked me a whole You're not supposed

1355
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 3: to have communication with a witness who's being sworn.

1356
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: You know that. I'm not I'm not telling you.

1357
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if you read the case, I'm assuming

1358
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 3: you read it. That's what it says, and you did

1359
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 3: it the supposed the state wish to be heard. You

1360
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 3: say you said it supposedly, And what I'm trying to

1361
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 3: get to is why did that happen outside of presence?

1362
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: And I need to have the that's him calling for help?

1363
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: Does the state need to be heard? Dane even saying

1364
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: that's him calling for help because he know he bagging

1365
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: me in the corner. I don't really know how to

1366
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: wig a lot of this, like y'all need to help

1367
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: me wig a lot of this. That's what it comes

1368
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: off as because the state didn't object. So in court

1369
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: there's indicators, there's things that you can do to let

1370
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 1: Yanna know and the court know that. Yo, I'm ready

1371
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: to speak or hold on. I need to say something

1372
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: about that. The state never objected to anything. Why all

1373
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: of a sudden does the judge scream does the state

1374
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: want to be heard in the middle of him having

1375
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: a discourse with Brian Steele, which is one young Thug's lawyer,

1376
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: about having a meeting with the lead witnessed outside of

1377
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,560
Speaker 1: the accused defense. I mean to me, this is a

1378
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: very interesting time. It seems like corruption.

1379
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 3: Pay attention and respectful question that transfer that you mentioned

1380
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 3: to be given to us so we could really understand it,

1381
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 3: and then anything that was not on a transferp if

1382
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 3: anything that we understand what happened outside our presence, and

1383
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 3: now you have put it where somehow I have to reveal.

1384
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 3: And I told you, I told you the first time,

1385
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 3: i'd be breaching one point six. And I know you're

1386
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 3: assuming something.

1387
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 5: I don't think you're breaching one point six. You can't

1388
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 5: hide behind one point six. You can't hide behind you.

1389
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 5: But the thing is, I think you got this information.

1390
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 5: Somebody disclosed it to you. And that's the only way

1391
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 5: you could have gotten what I got unless you're sitting there.

1392
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 5: Unless you're sitting there, you're eavesdropping. So so you can't

1393
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 5: use something ordinarily that you had no business getting to

1394
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 5: begin with. And then stand on, well, hey, we didn't

1395
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 5: give you the information, or that a party didn't give

1396
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 5: you the information.

1397
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 3: So your honor. But that's the issue, isn't it. Well, well,

1398
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 3: you know that's that's it's at least issue that leads

1399
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 3: to be, that leads to be told. But they right now,

1400
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 3: we don't know, Missus, why we went we were excluded

1401
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 3: from that, Missus Williams. Constitution rights, Georgia con just stop

1402
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 3: at this point in time, because articles because you've already

1403
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 3: said that you've already said was a constitution and we

1404
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 3: had a right to be present. Mister, we're not waiving anything, yes, ma'am.

1405
01:13:53,560 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 3: Thanks well, and you're on a and I know I

1406
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 3: said this previously. Kids, We are not accepting any profit

1407
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 3: this okay, excuse me, okay, all rights.

1408
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 7: To the court. The court has inquired. We have no

1409
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 7: way of knowing what it is or who it was

1410
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 7: that disclosed information that was contained within an X party conversation.

1411
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 7: Not only was there an X party communication between that

1412
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,560
Speaker 7: we requested as a state to be on record with

1413
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 7: the court, but there was communication made, I believe, to

1414
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 7: a person and his lawyer.

1415
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 3: I don't.

1416
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 7: Know that the reason that councils took the podium was

1417
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 7: to address that particular issue so much as it was

1418
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 7: to try and assert and an accurate what he calls

1419
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 7: fact and put it out there in the open as

1420
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 7: if it were true. But we certainly have the right

1421
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 7: to request xparte communications. That's why we asked that the

1422
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 7: court reporter be present. This is a matter that the

1423
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 7: defendants did not have a right to be a part of,

1424
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 7: as this was a matter regarding a civil contempt that

1425
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 7: the court imposed upon a person for not obeying the

1426
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 7: court's directive. The state read the case that mister Steele cited.

1427
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 7: It does not stand for the proposition he asserts that

1428
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 7: it does, and regarding further legal support for our position,

1429
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 7: we would provide that to the court. But we are

1430
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 7: more concerned that information that is disclosed in an ex

1431
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 7: parte setting gets relayed to the parties who are not.

1432
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 3: Privy to that.

1433
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 7: The whole purpose of the XPARTA request was so that

1434
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 7: that did not happen, and we expressed on the record

1435
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 7: our concerns and our reasons for concern regarding that. We

1436
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 7: believe that without more information about how that information got

1437
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 7: relayed to the defendants, we cannot make the kind of

1438
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 7: assertion IDE inclined to make. So before making the next

1439
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 7: set of assertions, I would need to know how that

1440
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 7: information was made privy to them.

1441
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: So what you're seeing is on the record, because it's

1442
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: important that it's just not the judge against the defense

1443
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: team back and forth. He has to insert the State

1444
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: in there so he can still act like he's remaining

1445
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: impartial and just weighing in on these two gripes. Because

1446
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: it seemed like the State wasn't objecting to the meeting.

1447
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: Nothing that was said. They was just like Oh my god,

1448
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: he found out. But what you're dealing with is the

1449
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: judge said, does the state want to be heard? That's signaling.

1450
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 1: That's a signal, get up and say something so I

1451
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 1: can do my one too. Now what you hear her

1452
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: say is another mental jiu jitsu mind trick was what

1453
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: joanna Before we could move forward, we kind of need

1454
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: to know who told them, And so long as she's

1455
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,839
Speaker 1: on the record presenting that, that gives him the ability

1456
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: to act like he's impartial in weigh in those two

1457
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: having that point of contingent and that disagreement as to

1458
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: how things got where they are. But if we are

1459
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 1: going from the natural order of things, it actually looked

1460
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: like that she wasn't gonna object to anything being said.

1461
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 3: Two counselors for the defendive we did not.

1462
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,480
Speaker 7: Act inappropriately or outside of the rules of professional responsibility,

1463
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 7: and if need be, we will reach out to the

1464
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 7: state by ourselves and ask what the appropriate remedy is

1465
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 7: for everything that has happened over the last two days,

1466
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 7: well the last two work days, because we.

1467
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 3: Are extremely concerned.

1468
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 7: We have observed a number of actions on the parts

1469
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,440
Speaker 7: of a number of people that I am not comfortable

1470
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 7: stating publicly at this.

1471
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 2: Time, but that.

1472
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 7: Would appear to call for being addressed in some other way.

1473
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 7: So as to mister Steele's request, I guess it was

1474
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 7: for mistrial. I'm not even certain what all that was.

1475
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 7: I think it was probably more to make inaccurate assertions

1476
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 7: on the record public to whomever was within listening shot

1477
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 7: of his voice. And we would ask that the court

1478
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 7: strike everything that he said from the time he stood

1479
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 7: up and started talking after the Court asked him where

1480
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 7: it was that he obtained the information that was made

1481
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 7: Privy in Council or this court. All right, and regarding

1482
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 7: Rule one point six, your honor, we read one point

1483
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 7: six every standing there. One point six in no way

1484
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 7: shields mister Steele's answer that the court requested he give.

1485
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 7: Rule one point six has to do with attorney client privilege,

1486
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 7: and that is information that mister Steele obtained from his

1487
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 7: client regarding whatever matters. I don't know if the information

1488
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 7: was leaked to his client from someone who was in chambers,

1489
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 7: or if the information was leaked directly to mister Steele.

1490
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 7: In either event, it is concerning and in no way

1491
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 7: falls under the protections of rule one point six. If

1492
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 7: the Court would allow me a moment regarding regarding further

1493
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 7: appropriate remedies, genre we would ask the Court for an

1494
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 7: opportunity to further look into appropriate remedies for circumstances such

1495
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 7: as this, apart from what the Court has already said,

1496
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 7: because it's grave enough when information is leaked from within

1497
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,759
Speaker 7: the Court's chambers regarding a matter that has been requested

1498
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 7: as ex parte, and.

1499
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 3: We would ask for the.

1500
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 7: Opportunity to present to the court additional appropriate remedies that

1501
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 7: we believe are available for.

1502
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 3: Sure, and your.

1503
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 7: Honor also, unless it's mister Adams representing mister Steele in

1504
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 7: the capacity as someone who has been held in contempts,

1505
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 7: mister Steele just argued whatever it is that they are

1506
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 7: trying to argue based on information we believe illegally obtained

1507
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 7: from the court chambers.

1508
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 9: I represent Missus Williams, and my savements are in regards

1509
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 9: to my representation Miss Williams. He has two attorneys, heyes,

1510
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 9: But the court now having found Missus Steel in contempt

1511
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 9: at court continues in that position that leads mister Williams

1512
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 9: represented at least at this juncture by myself, that puts

1513
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 9: me in a position of making short court as a

1514
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 9: way of that, I am in received of the same

1515
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 9: information that mister Steel received. I'm of the same opinion

1516
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 9: that the court is engaged in behavior of that I

1517
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 9: believe compromise and corrupts the continuation of this trial. I

1518
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 9: do believe that we are entitled to and should receive

1519
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 9: a copy of the transcript so that if full investigation

1520
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 9: can be made. That's what we believe has occurred here.

1521
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 9: And so I take the same position as Steel. I

1522
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 9: am asked him for a mistrial, as he did previously,

1523
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 9: and I'm telling the court that I do not believe

1524
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 9: that we can proceed at this point based upon the

1525
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 9: information that we've received. And frankly, I don't believe the

1526
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 9: state has any say in that my state, mister, and

1527
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 9: regards my representation of mister Williams. And if Missus Steel

1528
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 9: is going to be holding contempt, I have exactly the

1529
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 9: same position.

1530
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 3: I also, Well, I asked, I asked him, so I

1531
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 3: didn't ask you. Yeah, So, but I'm I'll leave it

1532
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 3: at that. Okay, when is it Missus Shart? Thanks John.

1533
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 11: As you know, I represent Shannon Stillwell on behalf of

1534
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 11: Shannon Stillwell. I am going to be moving for a mistrial.

1535
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 11: First and foremost, I just want to clear up a

1536
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 11: few things that have been said today. We were instructed

1537
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 11: to come eight thirty four, nine o'clock start. I would

1538
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 11: not be honest with the court if I said I

1539
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 11: was here at eight thirty, but I was probably here

1540
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 11: about eight forty. We did not start till a pro

1541
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 11: I'm estimating eleven o'clock. Clearly, we figured something was going on.

1542
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 11: We were given no information about any meeting, who was meeting,

1543
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 11: what the meeting was about, or whether the meeting was

1544
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 11: ex partey or not ex partey, who requested the meeting,

1545
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 11: who was in the meeting. We were completely in the dark,

1546
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 11: and quite frankly, we kind of remained in the dark.

1547
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 11: I am not a false accuser, Okay. I do not

1548
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 11: just really nearly accuse people of things. So I'm not

1549
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 11: going to throw out spurious allegations like the ones that

1550
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 11: have been thrown at me over the past couple of

1551
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 11: days that are absurd.

1552
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 3: But I will say, your.

1553
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 11: Honor, what I do know is just based on what

1554
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 11: we've heard over the last twenty minutes. It appears there

1555
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 11: was a meeting that I knew nothing about that involved

1556
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 11: your Honor, the district attorneys and a witness who had

1557
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 11: been sworn in my client was not given an opportunity

1558
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 11: to be present at this critical stage. This was a

1559
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 11: critical stage in this trial. That error is a foundational

1560
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 11: structural error in this case, and it is the cause

1561
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 11: for an immediate mistrial. Additionally, Your Honor, I believe that

1562
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,919
Speaker 11: this meeting again, I'm going to ask for the transcript,

1563
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 11: and I'm going to ask for the recordings as well,

1564
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 11: should they exist. But I believe that this may have also,

1565
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 11: this meeting with a witness without us president may have

1566
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 11: made the district attorneys and or your honor a witness

1567
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 11: to this in this case, a material witness in this case.

1568
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 11: And finally, Your Honor, I'm going to ask for as

1569
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 11: soon as possible, I'm going to ask that these proceedings

1570
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 11: be halted until we can obtain an accurate final transcript

1571
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 11: for what occurred where none of the defense, none of

1572
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 11: the defendants, or defense council will be present for and

1573
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 11: also the recordings of that meeting so we can see

1574
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 11: where we are.

1575
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 3: Again.

1576
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 11: I'm not going to sit up here and make false

1577
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 11: accusations or spiritus allegations, but I do think we need

1578
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 11: to figure out what happened. We need to be in

1579
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 11: the know and not in the dark about what happened

1580
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 11: when a meeting occurs with a witness that has been

1581
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 11: sworn in.

1582
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: So what you're gonna see over these videos that we

1583
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: just played is you're watching in my opinion, Young Thug

1584
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: and the rest of the defense team council head into

1585
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 1: a different aspect of this fight. It's almost like a

1586
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: Javonte Davis and one of these guys fighting, Bud Crawford

1587
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: boots one of these guys fighting, and about the third round,

1588
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: they see, oh, y'all want to fight like that. So

1589
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play to the judges. So I'm gonna start

1590
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 1: just tapping you knowing that we playing a points game.

1591
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna brawl with you because you don't want

1592
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: to brawl. You know, Floyd Mayweather was famous for whooping

1593
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: you on the score Carse right because he played to

1594
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 1: the judges, And so that's the exact same thing we're

1595
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: seeing here. We're seeing that Young Thug and their defense

1596
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: team are saying, Okay, in our opinion, the judge isn't

1597
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 1: being fair and he's not gonna be honest and impartial.

1598
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: How he views this trial. So now I'm playing to

1599
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: the score cause which is the record. So all of

1600
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: these conversations you hit him having this is in the

1601
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: appeal to the record. This is an appeal on the record.

1602
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: All these conversations are on the record. There's someone typing this,

1603
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: so when they go to the appeal process, they get

1604
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: to tell the appellic course. Look, we were saying this,

1605
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 1: we were saying this, this is what we said in

1606
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: real time. They just ignored it. I do think the

1607
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: situation where they had this meeting is damaging to the trial.

1608
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm a sparist the rest of this video, and we're

1609
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: gonna look at the point of time when he made

1610
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 1: a decision to go ahead and take Brian still in

1611
01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: the custody.

1612
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 5: You really getting yourselves cross purposes at this point in time, sir.

1613
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 5: I'm telling you you are, at this point in time,

1614
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 5: you've made some things out of nothing. I think that

1615
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,560
Speaker 5: you're I think that you're on very precarious ground this

1616
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 5: point in time. So I'm telling you, at this point

1617
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 5: in time, he's in cus C. We're gonna go ahead

1618
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 5: and start. You can represent mister Williams. That's okay, that's fine.

1619
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 5: I'll take up the other stuff as as needed, but.

1620
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 3: I'm not going to take it up right now, sir.

1621
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 3: You have to well, you're gonna have to do the best.

1622
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to do the best you can this

1623
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 5: point in time because you don't get to extort the court.

1624
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 5: That's what you're attempting to do at this point in time, sir, Yes,

1625
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 5: you are. What you're trying to do is I'm not

1626
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 5: going forward if I don't get this. You know, it

1627
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 5: doesn't work that way, Miss Adams. And I'm telling you,

1628
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,600
Speaker 5: at this point in time, I would I would just

1629
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 5: kind of govern yourself accordingly, sir.

1630
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:53,560
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, as the court under these particular.

1631
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 5: Circumstances, everything will come out as as.

1632
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 3: As it should. I don't think.

1633
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 5: I don't think, sir, Sir, I don't have enough information

1634
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 5: this point in time to address it.

1635
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 3: I don't.

1636
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 5: But but I'm telling you this point in time, there

1637
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:09,560
Speaker 5: is nothing that was given said whatever this morning that

1638
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 5: any accuracy for some But sure, I don't even know

1639
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 5: you're you're your co counsel. Your co counsel won't even

1640
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 5: tell me who.

1641
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 3: Said who said whatever? Okay, okay, and and and.

1642
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 5: The challenge I'm having in this paper circumstances that is

1643
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 5: such a violation of the sacris sankness of the Court's chambers.

1644
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 5: And then next party conversation, you're you're.

1645
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 3: Just glossing over that.

1646
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 5: You're glossing over that, and it's entirety No, it's not, sir, sir,

1647
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 5: is not. That's not what that's that's that's not what happened.

1648
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 5: That's that's not what that's happened. That's not what happened.

1649
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,560
Speaker 3: That's not what happened. I'm just telling you that's not

1650
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 3: what happened.

1651
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 9: Respectfully, we are not obligated specimply said that.

1652
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 3: We believe that. Okay, well then you've made you've made it.

1653
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 3: You've made it.

1654
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 5: Now we're not doing that at this point in time,

1655
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 5: so you'll have a choice to make. All right, takes

1656
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 5: take mister Steele and the Cussi police.

1657
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 8: Hyah for me.

1658
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 7: One moment to confirm the council regarding the appropriate remaing.

1659
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, m yes, sir, you certainly may. Sir

1660
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 3: Williams does not wish to go forward without me being here.

1661
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 3: You were removing me against his will and my will,

1662
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 3: and you're taking away's right to counsel, and you're conducting

1663
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 3: material parts of this trial without me present, and I

1664
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 3: can't learn about it by watching online. So for that reason, additionally,

1665
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 3: I asked for a mistrial, and I assume you deny,

1666
01:28:58,439 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 3: but I'd like you to deny our emotions for mist

1667
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 3: He denied the other people. I deny your motion, but

1668
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 3: I'll certainly take that under advisement.

1669
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 8: Sir.

1670
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna be in recess for the next five minutes.

1671
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: So you see this judge make one of the bowlder

1672
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:23,480
Speaker 1: moves I've ever seen in the history of court proceedings,

1673
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: which is locked this lawyer up because he wouldn't tell

1674
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 1: you how he got that information. Now, after that, they

1675
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 1: did pull up case law that supports that lawyers have

1676
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: been locked up before. But this is a very rare

1677
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 1: occurrence for Brian still to be so respected in his genre,

1678
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 1: in his practice and have to go through that, that

1679
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 1: is devastating. That's devastating. But I truly believe he laid

1680
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: on the cross for thug. Also after he done this

1681
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 1: to Brian Steel, what happens, you guessed it? Twenty five

1682
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 1: lawyers show up, they said, two three dozen lawyers show

1683
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: up outside of the courtroom, because now you got all

1684
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: of us upset. Now you got people that's just gonna

1685
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 1: be coming through all of the paperwork, all of your rulings.

1686
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 1: You got twenty five different lawyers that's now gonna be

1687
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 1: obsessed with your handling up this trial and your abusive

1688
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: power in that way. Brian still still have not said

1689
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 1: anything up until this point, but he calls in the

1690
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: big dogs. What we're about to watch now is the

1691
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: lawyer that made Fanny Willis bag up off of Donald Trump.

1692
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 1: Her name's Ashley Merchant. She is not one of them.

1693
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: The judge tried to hold court that didn't want the

1694
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: spectacle of having all of those lawyers come in because

1695
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: they were there to support Brian still in him being

1696
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 1: held in criminal contempt for not sharing what he is

1697
01:30:55,520 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: calling privileged information that could compromise his status with the

1698
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: person that he's representing, which is young thug. All of

1699
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: these lawyers show up. The judge now brings up some

1700
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: sort of safety issue and he doesn't want all the

1701
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 1: lawyers in. Let's pay attention to Ashley and how she

1702
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: navigates around these very very tough ter range. Pay attention.

1703
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 3: NEWSPREEP presents all right, Thank you for your patients, counsels,

1704
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:29,560
Speaker 3: the quartet and OPPTN you reflect, and mister Stelf, I

1705
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 3: could to ask you to take the podium police as well,

1706
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 3: not say next year, attorneys. Some Brown's inpact. President Newspree presents.

1707
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 3: All right, thank you for your patients, counsels, the quartet, Optreen,

1708
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:48,560
Speaker 3: you reflect, and mister Stel could to ask you to

1709
01:31:48,600 --> 01:32:03,719
Speaker 3: take the Podian police as well, not say next year, attorneys. Okay,

1710
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 3: miss Merchant, mister Steele, and I apologize. What Stell your

1711
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 3: last name for.

1712
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 4: US s us or Sierra Uniforms, Sierra Oscar.

1713
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 3: You're good man, good Man, okay, all right, okay, all right,

1714
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 3: thank you, sir. Okay, mister Schuster as well.

1715
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 5: All right, counselors, I've made a clarification or to the

1716
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 5: order of contempt, mister Steele, I am going to hold

1717
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 5: you under still hold you in summary criminal contempt pursuing

1718
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 5: to O c J fifteen Dash one, Dash three, Subpart

1719
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 5: three for your failure to comply with my earlier order

1720
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 5: to today, I'm going to order that you'd be taking

1721
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 5: into custom uh incarcerated the Fulton kind of jail for

1722
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 5: no more than twenty days for this contempt those twenty

1723
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,839
Speaker 5: days consisting of every weekend for the next ten weekends,

1724
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,639
Speaker 5: and you'll be reporting to nine on one Right Street, Northwest, Atlanta, Georgia,

1725
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 5: three oh three eighteen et cet.

1726
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me catch you all up. Because they

1727
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 1: didn't address this first. He was gonna send them with

1728
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 1: jail and let them stay in jail. He had got

1729
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 1: so out of hand that even the States stood up

1730
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 1: and said, Yanna, can you please not do this because

1731
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: that'll ruin your case. What you're doing is you're putting

1732
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 1: thug in trial without his lead attorney. That's not a

1733
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,759
Speaker 1: fair trial. The dude didn't know everything about the case.

1734
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 1: You're locking them up because you won't tell you about

1735
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 1: some information. So you're violating his constitutional right, which is

1736
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 1: he is able to have an attorney. And so he

1737
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 1: had got so power drunk that even the state had

1738
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 1: to stand up and say, Yanna, can you please rethink that,

1739
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 1: and can we please have Brian Steele out here while

1740
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: the trial is going on. Maybe you take him in

1741
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 1: jail afterwards, but we definitely want him to be present

1742
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 1: for young Thug and his cross examination and all these

1743
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: different things, because they know that's an automatic appeal, and

1744
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 1: so he then goes into his chambers looking at some

1745
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 1: case law and then this is where we are now.

1746
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 1: He comes back with this stuff. Pel attention on Fridays.

1747
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 3: You'll be released on seven pm on Sundays. And it's

1748
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 3: just commenced this Friday, June the fourteenth, at seven pm

1749
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 3: and not to until Sunday, August the eighteenth, at twenty

1750
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven pm, subject to further order of

1751
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 3: this court, and that will be entered in e file

1752
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 3: and you may take whatever steps you and your council

1753
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 3: deem appropriate after that. Okay, I ask the question, sure,

1754
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to file on this on field. But for

1755
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 3: whatever reason that doesn't take and you don't give a bond,

1756
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 3: then I'd ask that I can be with mister Williams

1757
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 3: and we work on our case all weekend, for all

1758
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 3: those weekends. Otherwise I can't prepare. I speak with missus Williams.

1759
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 3: All that's up to you, and sir, I will say

1760
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 3: if that, if that comes to pass, you have my

1761
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 3: my support. I will, I will, I will talk with

1762
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 3: our sheriff and we may be able to make that work. Okay,

1763
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 3: if that should occur. Okay, all right, okay, all right, yeah.

1764
01:34:55,439 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the real deal. Brian Steele. You in me, Yeah,

1765
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:04,759
Speaker 1: that's the real deal. Brian Steele. You're what he said, Yo, Yohannie.

1766
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: If you is gonna lock me up, I need to

1767
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 1: stay with Dougs so we can chop it up about

1768
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: the trial. Otherwise I can't see. This is where you

1769
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: got to notice about lawyers and how he is understanding

1770
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 1: that they're on the record, so he's gonna say otherwise

1771
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 1: I can't prepare because if you don't allow that, there's

1772
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 1: another loophole we can explore, like you leaving shit open

1773
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 1: and again, when you have the judge against you, you

1774
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 1: now play to the judges. Which is the record.

1775
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 7: That affords mister Williams the right during these proceedings. Wild

1776
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 7: Court is in session to both counsel for both of

1777
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 7: his counsels. For mister Steele to be present in the courtroom,

1778
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 7: he can still be held in contempt, but for mister

1779
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,759
Speaker 7: Williams to have representation of both mister Steele and mister Adams.

1780
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 7: Wild Court is in session and that the court's remedy

1781
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 7: does not affect his ability to have his council of

1782
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 7: choice representing during this trial.

1783
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 12: Later in the day, and I mean the evening after

1784
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 12: seven pm, Attorney Ashley Merchant came to court to represent

1785
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 12: Brian Steele in this contempt matter.

1786
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 13: Judge, just for the record is, so is the criminal contempt?

1787
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 13: Is it criminal contempt that you held him in? Yes,

1788
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 13: ma'am okay, and you said you had a hearing earlier today.

1789
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:16,640
Speaker 5: I know I'm with criminal contemp. I told him what

1790
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 5: the contempt was, and that was he refused to tell

1791
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 5: order the court. If counsel, as you know, if court

1792
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 5: orders you to do something and you don't, that's criminal contempt.

1793
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 5: So I've asked him several times, please just tell me

1794
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 5: who it is that told you that. I didn't ask

1795
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 5: or inquire about anything.

1796
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 1: That was said.

1797
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 3: I just want to know who it was, because he's

1798
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:36,640
Speaker 3: got too much detail of this particular alleged conversation for

1799
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 3: the court to be concerned about it.

1800
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 13: So, and Judge, since it is a criminal contempt, he

1801
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 13: is entitled to due process.

1802
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 2: He's entitled to a.

1803
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 13: Hearing, entitled to an actual show cause, entitled to the

1804
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 13: allegations actually written, entitled to a witness list.

1805
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 2: We're entitled to present our own witness list.

1806
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 3: And notice that contemp. Criminal contempt is different. It is

1807
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 3: on the spot. So he's gotten the due process he's

1808
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 3: going to get. That's on the spot, I told him.

1809
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 3: Plus he's had all day to tell me who it

1810
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:01,840
Speaker 3: is that is it so a little different, miss March

1811
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 3: And I want to disagree with you, but.

1812
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 13: Well, Judge, just for the record, it's that's direct. So

1813
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 13: what you're holding him in is in direct criminal contempt.

1814
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 2: Yes.

1815
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 13: The issue with the direct criminal contempt is whether or

1816
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 13: not to actually hold it hearing now, whether or not

1817
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 13: it needs to be held immediately. And the problem is

1818
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 13: if you hold him in direct criminal contempt as you're

1819
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 13: saying that you did, you are a witness to that

1820
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 13: proceeding and so it has to be referred to another judge.

1821
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 13: Doesn't require rikiusel. You actually have to sue a sponte

1822
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 13: send it to another judge because you're a witness to yourceeding.

1823
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 12: You're anything like me, you are always cleaning up the mess,

1824
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 12: especially with pets and kids around the house, so having

1825
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 12: cleaning products, especially my life first order at our one bit,

1826
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 12: Judge Glanville held Brian Steele in contempt.

1827
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 3: Mister Steel, I am going to hold you ender still

1828
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 3: hold you in summary criminal contempt pursuant OCJA fifteen Dash one,

1829
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 3: Desk three, sub Part three, for your failure to comply

1830
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 3: with my earlier order. To today, I'm going to order

1831
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 3: that you'd be taking in no custom incarcerated the Fulton

1832
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 3: kind of deal for no more than twenty days for

1833
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 3: this contempt. Those twenty days consisting of every weekend for

1834
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 3: the next ten weekends, and you'll be reporting to nine

1835
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 3: on one Right Street, Northwest, Atlanta, Georgia, three oh three

1836
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 3: eighteen at seven pm on Fridays.

1837
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 5: You'll be released on seven pm on Sundays. And it's

1838
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 5: just commenced this Friday, June the fourteenth, at seven pm

1839
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 5: and not to enuntil Sunday, August the eighteenth at twenty

1840
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 5: twenty four to seven pm, subject to further order in

1841
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 5: this court.

1842
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 12: Now, after the judge said that Brian Steele was going

1843
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 12: to have to spend his weekends in jail, Steele had

1844
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 12: just one request.

1845
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 3: I answer a question. Sure, I'm going to follow us

1846
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 3: with people, but for whatever reason that doesn't take and

1847
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 3: you don't give a bond, then I'd ask that I

1848
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 3: can be with mister Williams and we work on our

1849
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 3: case all weekend for all those weekends. Otherwise I can't prepare.

1850
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 3: I speak with mister Williams also, that's up to you

1851
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 3: and Sir I will if that, if that comes to pass,

1852
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:47,680
Speaker 3: you have my support, will I will. I will talk

1853
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 3: with our sheriff.

1854
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: And so these are some of the arguments that you hear. Now,

1855
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 1: what I truly believe is that now you get the

1856
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 1: big dogs involved, you get way too many more people

1857
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 1: involved in this case of these tedious lawyers that are

1858
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 1: looking for loopholes, looking for what the file. You don't

1859
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: just throw a lawyer in jail like that, bro. You

1860
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 1: gotta have respect for the overall sanctuary that you guys

1861
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 1: have to share, because they can become tedious the same

1862
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 1: way the judge can become tedious. And this can be

1863
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 1: a very interesting, very interesting chess match between the two. Again,

1864
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 1: he has Ashley Merchant, which is the lady that represents

1865
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 1: Trump in his election fraud case in Folton County in

1866
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 1: which Fanny Willis and the DA has decided to press

1867
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: the brakes or press Pauls on that. I think this

1868
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 1: trial goes further and further. What I see happening next

1869
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 1: is yo, they do why I said what is gonna

1870
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 1: be looking like Frank Martin in there. You know, first round,

1871
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,640
Speaker 1: he come in, I plead the fifth, Second round, I

1872
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 1: see a little something. Third round, I say a little

1873
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:55,719
Speaker 1: some sell may Brown.

1874
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 3: Man.

1875
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 1: He tired of this shit.

1876
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 3: Man.

1877
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 1: They either gonna catch him in period. You're real, they

1878
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 1: gonna play the tape. Something gonna happen in the later

1879
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 1: rounds because they're stalling him out. They're weighing him down.

1880
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 1: They know you don't want to keep. The longer you

1881
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 1: do it like this, the longer we gonna be doing

1882
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 1: this is what they're telling him. But you got to say, yo,

1883
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 1: I can't sit there and send my partner down like that.

1884
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what y'all folks doing, but it is

1885
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:25,600
Speaker 1: what it is. Let's move on. That's my take on

1886
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 1: Thug up until this point. We'll keep on, We'll keep

1887
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 1: We'll keep you guys updated