1 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Welcome to the ot an Official Titan Podcast for the 2 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: teacher didn't know what OTP me? My name is Mike. 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Keith amy Wells is here. Hey Mike, how are you? 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you? Well? It's kind of interesting 5 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: because of how this edition of the OTP falls. Either 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: I am your guest or you are my guest equals. 7 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: We're equals, So I'm not sure how it's going to work. 8 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: Jim Wyatt was supposed to be with us, but he 9 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: was out at the shooting range with the players during 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: what was their final day of mini camp learning gun 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: safety from the Metro Police, which I think is a 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: great thing. Right, it's so cool. I mean, to do 13 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: something that practical and that useful. What a smart move? Well, 14 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: it's so different. Teams will go play paintball or laser 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: tag or something like that. This you're still shooting things. 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: There's that fun component to it where there's target practice 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: and so something that they can kind of compete with. 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: But you're right, there's such a practical application to it. 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: I think it's it's just so cool, such a good idea, 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: and that's pretty typical of Mike Vrabel. Mike Vrabel has 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: things in mind when he does different activities, he's very intentional. Yes, 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: that's one thing I could definitely say about coach Vrabel 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: is everything he does is with a purpose. And you know, 24 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: the final teams constantly take off the last practice of 25 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: Mini camp to do some sort of fun team building 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: activity and it seems like the guys had a great time. 27 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: But at the same time they got to interact with 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Metro Police. They got to be trained in this way, 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: they got to, you know, learn how to properly use 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: a gun. A smart thing I think in case those 31 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: guys are going to own firearms, is having the last 32 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: practice of mini camp be a fun surprise day off 33 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: really a surprise to anyone. I mean, we always talk 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: about it with this secrecy, and we kind of whisper 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: that we might have the day off the surprise. What 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: everyone knows the surprise would be if they I would 37 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: be shocked. This is season eight for me in the NFL, 38 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: and never have I seen in Mini camp practice on 39 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: the third day. On the final day, they generally choose 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: to do something else. So football is over now for 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: roughly six weeks. The team will come back on the 42 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: twenty fifth sort of get back to work. And then 43 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: that weekend they'll really start to crank it up. The 44 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: most interesting thing that Mike Rabel said that I heard, 45 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: and I really liked his post mini camp press conference 46 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: better than most, because you're always going to be, oh, yeah, 47 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: we got a lot done in the off site that 48 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: nobody ever says, boy, it was terrible. We got nothing done. 49 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: Everybody's out of shape. That was really that was bad. 50 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: Nobody ever says that. But he talked in very distinct 51 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: terms about what he felt like they got done, and 52 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: then very specifically said, look, we really don't know that 53 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: much till we get in pads, absolutely, which is one 54 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: hundred percent the truth. And you know, so many guys 55 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: look great running around in shorts, and then when people 56 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: put helmets and shoulder pads on, they don't look as good. 57 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: On the other hand, there are guys who are not 58 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: world class athletes in terms of how they look at 59 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: the combine, but they know how to play when the 60 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: pads are on and their game speeds up. I don't 61 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: know why, it's just that's how it is with certain people. 62 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: And I thought Coach Brabel's logic in that and laying 63 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: that out there as a basis for everything about where 64 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: he thinks this team is is a big deal. Since 65 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: day one of Mike Rabel being here, he has talked 66 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: about managing expectations right. He's a guy that I think, 67 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: going forward and we've seen so far, doesn't get too 68 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: high when things are good, but can get too low 69 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: when things don't look as good. He's very realistic about 70 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: where this team is, what you're actually going to be 71 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: able to accomplish in either a time span or with 72 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: whatever limitations you have. He's never going to sugarcoat something 73 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: for you, and he's never going to blow something up 74 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: to make it seem like the world is crashing down. 75 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: The reason I was most excited about Mike Rabel becoming 76 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans head coach was just exactly that. The 77 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: talk about pads, the talk about the work that's going 78 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: to go with the pads, and what all is going 79 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: to happen as you really become a football team in 80 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: late July into August, all of these things that you 81 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: do in April, May and June lead up to laying 82 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: a foundation for training camp, which is what he said. 83 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: He said, we know basically the gist, they know what 84 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: I want him to do. They know how practice runs, 85 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: they know what the plays are. Now let's see if 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: we can hit somebody. And that part of it, to me, 87 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: was such a deal in his hiring because, let's face it, 88 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: in this division. Jacksonville, that's a tough guy team. Yeah, 89 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: they're going to hit you. Houston, that's a tough guy 90 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: team when they get their defense back. And when you 91 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: play against Andrew Luck, which apparently the Titans are going 92 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: to that's a tough team. You are not winning in 93 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: this division with a bunch of trick them. Nope. I 94 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: mean it's not gonna be oh we out fancy to 95 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: You better be tough. And that doesn't mean you run 96 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: every down or you score four points a game. And 97 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: I get that that's a perception, but when it comes 98 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: down to it, you better be able to get physical. 99 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: You better be able to get with somebody, because the 100 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: other teams in this division can and want to do it. 101 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: I think a Mike Rabel team is going to be 102 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: able to get down with anybody. When you look around 103 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: the league, the AFC South is what sticks out to 104 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: me as being the team that's just to all of 105 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: those teams are just gonna punch you in the mouth. Right, 106 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: it's some of the prettier teams. I don't think the 107 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: games are going to be as run up the score. 108 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: I think that especially these division games, they're gonna be 109 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: down and dirty. They're going to be won and lost 110 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: kind of in the trenches. And Mike Ribels trying to 111 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: build a team that can do just that punch in 112 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: the face, right. You want to be able to throw 113 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: it and score thirty five points a game, and that's 114 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: certainly necessary, and I think every team in the division 115 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: probably can. They've all certainly improved themselves offensively, either through 116 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: free agency, the draft, or getting players back from injury. 117 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: But at that moment in the fourth quarter, I mean, 118 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: the score in the game maybe thirty five to thirty one, 119 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: or it maybe seven to three. At that moment, you're 120 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: gonna find out what you've got. Just like the Titans 121 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: came through in the final game of the season against Jacksonville. 122 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: There was a moment in that game where you were 123 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: either going to win it or you were not going 124 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: to win it, and Marcus Mariota had the stiff arm 125 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: and the Titans did what they needed to do. That's 126 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: the kind of coaching, that's the kind of team that 127 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: I think you're going to have to have at those 128 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: moments to win the division. And that's why I have 129 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: been a fan of Rabel and what he has brought. 130 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody is going to out tough Tennessee. 131 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: Not saying they're the biggest, baddest boy on the block, 132 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: not saying that, but I'm saying I think they will 133 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: be there and will be able to resonate that sort 134 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: of toughness when it's needed in big situations. Do you 135 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: see that? Coach Brabel said, there's eighty seven days from 136 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: the last day of minicamp to the first regular season game. 137 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: The first preseason game is eight weeks from today as 138 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: we record this on Thursday, June, the fourteen eight weeks. 139 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: It's not nuts, it's great, it's just around the corners 140 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: when you'll free that in our job, the next six 141 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: weeks are the hardest. Yes, Oh absolutely, I'm starting to 142 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: get a little squirrelly. I'm sad that they're leaving. I 143 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: feel like I just got back into the football routine. 144 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: You know, you take a little bit of a break 145 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: once you're done with the regular season of the postseason 146 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: for us, and then you're Jones and for football, and 147 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: then the guys are back in the building and there's 148 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: working out and everybody's loud again, and you start feeling 149 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: that football vibe. And then OTA practice is starting. It 150 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: feels very much like you're kind of getting back in 151 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: that in season routine. And then boom, everybody leaves and 152 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: it's six weeks of silence. Yeah, for a while, you'll 153 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: be able to ride a bicycle at full speed down 154 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: the football park of St. Thomas Sports Park and not 155 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: be worried about a door opening and somebody walking out 156 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: because they get away and they need to, and especially 157 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. I mean, it's really a big deal. 158 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: They returned before the players do. But the coaching staff 159 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: has to get away. They you know, you've got to 160 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: get a break. You've got to get that time with 161 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: your family. You're gonna go to Florida or California or 162 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: the mountains or you know, whatever you're going to do, 163 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: because once the routine starts the last week of July, 164 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: you hope that you're going until the first week. Here's 165 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: a question for you night for the next five or 166 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: six weeks. As far as the players are concerned, are 167 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: their stipulations as to what they can or cannot do 168 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: for the CBA, Well, there's nothing that they can do 169 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: officially with the team. The rookies have some leeway. They 170 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: get a little extra time here on the back end 171 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: before they're sort of sent away, but you know they're 172 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: off this and this was what the CBA of twenty 173 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: eleven was really all about, because the players had a 174 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: sixty week off season prior to the newest CBA and 175 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: now they have a nine week off season, or let 176 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: me say that again. Prior to the two thousand eleven CBA, 177 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: the players had a sixteen week work period here at 178 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: Saint Thomas Sports Park and other complexes, so they would 179 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: get back middle of March and they would leave later 180 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: in June. Now, under the most recent CBA, their offseason 181 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: and program, the official part is nine weeks. They get 182 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: back the week of the draft and they're gone now, 183 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: so they've got extra time those guys, I mean, they 184 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: can do whatever they need to do as far as 185 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: working out. The injured players certainly have a right to 186 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: be getting worked on and things of that sort, but 187 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: there is nothing official that goes on until the players 188 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: report July twenty four. Jim Wyatt's just walking. Come over here, Jim, 189 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: this is live. What the heck has been? This is live. 190 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: This is this is live podcasting at its best. Jim 191 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: Wyatt has just finished the press conference, the final press conference. 192 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: We braced ourselves for your absence, and we're having We're 193 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: having to do this at a different time because we 194 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: have team requirement meetings we have to go to. So 195 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: we are taping this now before the team requirement meetings 196 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: that will start in a few minutes. So that's why 197 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: Jim was penned down time was most interesting things that 198 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel said in his post minicamp press conference. The 199 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: most did rust can probably happen After the press conference. 200 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: He had a little back and forth with I guess 201 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: with local media about access, what it's going to look 202 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: like moving forward. During the press conference itself, I just 203 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: think how expectations have been set, you know, throughout the 204 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: course of this offseason, you know, looking forward to camp 205 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: and kind of implementing more things. Official camp date, he said, 206 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: recording dates July twenty fifth. First practice of July twenty sixth, 207 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: made it known there's gonna be another Friday Night Lights 208 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: this year at a high school field to be determined. 209 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: And I think it feels like it was a successful 210 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: offseason in his first year as the head coach. Is 211 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: he gonna have open practices for the fans. Yes, and 212 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: sounds like he's gonna be a lot of them. And 213 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: I would anticipate the schedule coming out within the next 214 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. About you know the questions I get 215 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: the most whence training camp starting? What's autograph schedule look like? Well, 216 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: we'll know. I think what the camp schedule looks like sooner, 217 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: a lot sooner than we do the autograph schedule, which 218 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: will be closer to camp once guys are back in 219 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: the building and can be assigned certain days. But you'll 220 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: sign every day? Yeah, I'll be available to sign every 221 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: day pictures someday, Well probably only the day only the 222 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: day my family got here wants it wants although they 223 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: don't know anyone in autogram, so people be waste of 224 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: time to show up for that. Well, now that Jim's here, 225 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: maybe we can talk about some mini camp observation. You 226 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: want to run through your questions. I do. I have 227 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: a list of questions. List of questions, go ahead and 228 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: were prepared this time so for both of you guys, 229 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: I want to start off just with position groups. Is 230 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: there one that really stood out to you throughout the 231 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: mini camp process, if not the entire offseason program. Yeah, 232 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,239 Speaker 1: I think cornerback. I think the depth there is incredible 233 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: and how far this team has come at that position 234 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: in the past couple of years. You know, added Malcolm 235 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: Butler at the Logan Ryan and the Dory Jackson. Those 236 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: are your kind of frontline guys, but the two guys 237 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: behind them was Shawn Simpson, Ty Smith or players that 238 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: have played a mean for snaps and meaningful games, and 239 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: both those guys have had good offseasons. I just think 240 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: it's a really impressive position group led by a secondary 241 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: of coach and Kerry Comes who who was pushing him 242 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: to the limit. Titans are better at inside linebacker than 243 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,359 Speaker 1: I thought they would be. Wesley Woodyard looks like Wesley Woodyard. 244 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: Will Compton was a good signy. Rashaun Evans, although coach 245 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: says he's not ready to start, certainly looks like a 246 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: big time prospect. Jayon Brown incredibly improved in year two, 247 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: and Nate Palmer has also had good work. So one 248 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: of the areas that I had been worried about a 249 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: little bit just after the season ended, Avery Williamson's departure 250 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: as well. Not worried about it right now, Well, let's 251 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: talk about Rashaun Evans a little bit. Then. Do you 252 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: feel like he's coming into his own on this team? 253 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: Obviously he still has more work to do, but do 254 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: you feel like he's establishing himself a little bit? I do. 255 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: I like him a lot. I see the flashes and listen, 256 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm no coach, but if a guy makes a lot 257 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: of tackles and his around the ball, you can generally 258 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: tell he's a pretty good player. This is a guy 259 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: who knows how to play football, knows how to get 260 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: after it. I'm sure responsibility wise, he doesn't do everything right. 261 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: But as coach Dave McGinnis likes to say, he's got 262 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: a GPS for the football, I think he's going to 263 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: be very special. Yeah, what's great? I mean, what's great 264 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: with him? What's great for Harold Landry as those guys, 265 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: I've gotten veterans in front of him, not only to 266 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: keep the pressure off of him not feeling like, hey, 267 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: I've got to be ready to start day one. Of course, 268 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: you'll you'll want everybody to push for that, but you 269 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: know Mike Rabel has said he's not ready yet. You mean, 270 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: he's not ready to start at this point, but he 271 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: still has plenty of time to learn. I love his attitude. 272 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: He's a mature young man. He got that from playing 273 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: at Alabama obviously under Nick Saban. Uh, he's you know, 274 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: Rabel's kind of put him in charge of getting the 275 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: rookies lined up for the bus, you know, certain other 276 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: things that he's asking to do from a leadership standpoint 277 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: for Shaun Evans, willing and eager to do all of that. 278 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: And Uh, I'm be curiously how he looks. I have 279 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: a feeling that how he looks when the Pats come on, 280 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: but I'll be I'm anxious to see it. Another defensive 281 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: draft pick, Dane Crookshanks, he's adjusting to a new position. 282 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: You mentioned the defensive backs. Jim, what do you think 283 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: about him and if he's settling into his new role. 284 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: I think he's fine in his way. I don't think 285 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: he's there yet. I mean, I think he and you 286 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: can tell sometimes but just the chatter that takes place 287 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: on the field, I mean, and I think he would 288 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: tell you that he's still is a work in progress. 289 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: But he's a physical specimen. Uh, he's a you know. 290 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: I think he's a smart kid. He's a really good athlete. 291 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: He's adjusting to a different position again as guys in 292 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: front of him that keep the pressure off of him 293 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: from feeling like he has to be on the field immediately. 294 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: But he's a guy that's gonna help on special teams, 295 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: I think right out of the the gate, and I think 296 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a good player for for years to come. 297 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: Should be a great special teams player with his athleticism. 298 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: His development leads straight to the signing of Kendrick Lewis though, 299 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: which I think was a real key in this offseason 300 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: because Crookshank is not a guy who has played the 301 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: aditional safety position ever before. He was, in essence, a 302 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: monster man or an extra linebacker whatever you want to 303 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: use in terms of old terminology with the Arizona defense. 304 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: So he's learning to play NFL safety. Kendrick Lewis is 305 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: a guy who has done it, has done it well, 306 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: has done it in this defense before, and could give 307 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: him a chance to sort of ease into learning and 308 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: still even have a chance to be active on game 309 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: day because of what he can do on specialtyas had 310 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: a pick on the last day of mini camp too. 311 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: And you know interesting store that we all know, but 312 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: I don't know everybody else does. I talked to him 313 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: at the in the mini camp and talked to Rabel 314 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: as well. He played with Mike Ravel in Kansas City, 315 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: was teammates with him. Now here he is playing under 316 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: him in Brabel's first year as a head coach. That's 317 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: very unique. Mike Rabel said it himself. Do you think 318 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: that's uncomfortable? Is that weird to have the guy who 319 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: was once your teammate now being like, nah, I'm in 320 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: you know, because when he played with Rabel, Rabel was 321 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: already like thirty five. But boys, speak to the studying 322 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: power of Kenrick Lewis and yeah, and Mike Rabel. How 323 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: forget how you know you're talking about UH players respecting 324 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: other guys who've played in the league. Well, this is 325 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: a guy to just play in the league not that 326 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: long ago, which you can't gives him even more box. Ye. 327 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: I think the guy that all eyes have been on 328 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: during Mini campus Kevin Dodds. Right, where do you guys 329 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: see him fitting in the best under a new coaching 330 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: regime with a new defensive scheme. Well, John Robinson said 331 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: at the end of the last season and they worked 332 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: him in some in the defensive line that he thinks 333 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: that might end up being his best position. I mean, listen, 334 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Dodd's gonna come to training camp with all eyes still 335 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: on him. You know, he missed some of the voluntary workouts. 336 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: That doesn't make anybody in the front office of the 337 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: coaching staff happy happy. He didn't do any interviews during 338 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: the mini camp. That means the media is going to 339 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: have their eye on him. He's got to go, and 340 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: I think he's going to have a chance to go 341 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: because he does have, you know, physicality and the attributes 342 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: to be able to do it. But Jim, he's gonna 343 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: have to produce quickly. Yeah he is. I mean, because 344 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's an overused term, but NFL, you know, 345 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: the standard off along everybody uses that. It's coming old 346 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: for Shade. But he's had two years. First year felt 347 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: terrible for him. He had a foot injury, then he 348 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: had to try to come back from it and had 349 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: to have another surgery last year. Everybody's wise Kevin Dodd 350 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: not doing more and I couldn't help but think, well, 351 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: he's got you know, Derek Morgan, he's got Brian and 352 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: Rich Poe, he's got Erica Walden, three proven guys ahead 353 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: of him now and year three, a guy that was 354 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: picked that high in the draft has got to be 355 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: productive now. He's valuable because he can put his hand 356 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: on the dirt. He can do, you know, a number 357 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: of different things to get after the quarterback, and they 358 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: can line them up in some different spots with other 359 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: pieces they have on this defense. But I think he knows, 360 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: like you said, all eyes are gonna be on him. 361 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: That's not just media, but that's gonna be the head coach, 362 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a GM, that's gonna be teammates because 363 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: the guy hasn't been around here and everybody else has. 364 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: And when you when you choose not to be here, 365 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 1: you know, players kind of hold each other accountable. They're 366 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: going to expect him to be ready to contribute and 367 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: be ready to play at the start a camp. Let 368 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: switch over to the offensive side of the ball. Now, 369 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 1: do you guys still think that we're going to end 370 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: up carrying three quarterbacks when all is said and done. 371 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how you can't. I mean, I think 372 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: going into the draft. He would ask me, well, with 373 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: the chance of the titles, to take a quarterback. I 374 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: didn't rule it out, but I thought, well, I don't 375 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: know about that, because if you do take a quarterback, 376 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: you're committing to having three on the roster, and it's 377 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: tough to carry three on the roster. But now that 378 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: Luke Falk is here, you know, and see him Blaine Gabber, 379 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: who has a strong arm, I don't know how you 380 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: can discard looked Luke Falk this quickly, because if you do, 381 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 1: probably gonna lose them. I mean, somebody will sign him 382 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: if you say, hey, let's keep him around to develop 383 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. So I think you have to 384 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: keep three, and we'll be surprised if they don't. At 385 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: this point, he looks like an NFL quarterback, Falk does, 386 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: so if he continues to do that, it's hard to 387 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: see them not keeping three. Yeah, I agree with you. 388 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: I think that's right. Do you guys think that Dion 389 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: Lewis was as advertised? I do. I like Dion Lewis 390 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: a lot. And the thing that impressed me so much, 391 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: and again, so much of what I'm talking about with 392 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: a Dion Lewis has to do with what Dave McGinn 393 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: has told me in preparation for that New England Divisional 394 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: round playoff game. He said, you know, this guy can 395 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: For not a big guy, he can really run inside 396 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: and he really can't. He cuts well. You know, he 397 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: has good enough speed and that's fine. He's not very 398 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: big admittedly, but he can run inside. He's hard to find. 399 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: He runs tough. And because he can do that, he 400 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: can obviously run the stretch play. He can catch the football, 401 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: but he can do that thing that you don't expect 402 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: him to be able to do. And because of that, 403 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: I think he's interchangeable with the much bigger back in 404 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. I'm a fan of what he does. Yeah, 405 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: I am too, and I think the relationship between those 406 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: two guys is key. Man. It was a weird dynamic 407 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: with DeMarco Murray and Derrick Henry as to some degree 408 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: because DeMarco Murray is a veteran who had put up 409 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: such good numbers. He sees a young guy coming in 410 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry, who hasman trophy winner, who's trying to 411 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: take his spot. And I think those guys got you know, 412 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: worked well together and respected one another but you know, 413 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: I do think there was a scenario where Marco didn't 414 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: want to come out of some games, want to play 415 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: through injuries because he didn't want to open the door 416 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: for a guy like Derrick Henry to take his job 417 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: and know he might not ever get it back. That's 418 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: all out the window now, and I think just watching 419 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and Dion Lewis kind of communicate with one another. 420 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: They like each other, They've got a similar personality. They 421 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: know their different bikes going to be asked to do 422 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: different things, and I think it's a healthy situation running 423 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: back around. The one I'm looking forward to is to 424 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: see who wins the number three spot, David Flewell and 425 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: an Akrom Waddley, because I think that's one to watch 426 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: him camp. I think they could keep all four. That 427 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: would be something I really do because I think Widely 428 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: is just a guy. He's five ten, one hundred and 429 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: eighty five hundred ninety pounds. Flew Ellen is a solid 430 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: two twenty five. I think flew Ellen's responsibility is going 431 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: to be special teams oriented and in essence, somebody made 432 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: the point to me yesterday that I thought was a 433 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: good one. Flew Ellen might be Henry's back. Widely may 434 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: end up being Lewis's back up. Yeah yeah, and well 435 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: you don't have to keep a fullback anymore. Well that's right, 436 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: because yeah, yeah, for a lot of reasons. Yeah, So 437 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: instead of doing the numbers in the past when Amad 438 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: Hall was here here, Gregmella, you know, Troy Fleming, whoever 439 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: it might have been in the past, now you just 440 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: count straight running backs and uh, you know, one of 441 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: the tight ends cans bounced over and play in the 442 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: backfield if needed. Don't rule out Dylan Dawkins, the running 443 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 1: back from Colorado State. Really nice looking player in his 444 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: own right, and I think he's going to battle for 445 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: a roster spot, try to try to take that third 446 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: or fourth spot whatever it's there. But Widely is a 447 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: real a really good looking player out of Iowa and 448 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: does so many things well. He makes guys miss. There 449 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: are a lot of guys to watch in that running 450 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: back group. But overall as an offense, is there a 451 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 1: player or two that you guys are going to be 452 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: keeping a special eye on going into training camp? Mins 453 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: Corey Davis, just because I know how much he means 454 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: to this team and we saw it early part of 455 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: this off season, he kind of had his work scale 456 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: back at the end. If he's able to stay healthy, 457 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: if he's able to keep doing what he was doing 458 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: the first part of this off season, what he did 459 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: the last season, he's a game changing type player. You know, 460 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: like Rabel said today, expects everybody to be healthy at 461 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: the start a camp, with the exception of Jack Conklin. 462 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: So that includes Corey Davis, that includes Rochard, Matthews Richard. 463 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: In my mind, even though he missed all ten OTAs 464 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: or nine of them since one of them did not 465 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: take place, is it's kind of a given's he's a 466 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: proven VET. But Corey Davis has got to emerge and 467 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: be a difference maker, I think right tackle his mind. 468 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: You touched on Jack Conklin. Where will he be able 469 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: to start at the beginning of training camp? Is that 470 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: Dennis Kelly spot Does Pam Field get a chance to 471 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: compete there? If Conklin is going to be out for 472 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: a while. You know, some of the Taylor to one 473 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: hold out and the fact that Jack Conklin has been 474 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: out may have disrupted some of what they were looking 475 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: to do as far as competition at left guard because 476 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: they had to use pam Field at left tackle during 477 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: the mini camp because of the tailor to one absence, 478 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: and they've used Dennis Kelly the whole time at right tackle. 479 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: So to me, I think Lawan is going to be back. 480 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: I think that's going to get worked out. But the 481 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: deal at right tackle with Conklin, that's one to watch 482 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: because when they start training camp, he will only be 483 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: six months removed from his ACL surgery and while he's 484 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: doing well, you know, Kenny start training camp. That's a 485 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: real question. Yeah, you mentioned Taylor the one. I want 486 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: to circle back to that in a second, but before 487 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: where we get there, we have a lot of undrafted 488 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: free agents on this team. Are there any that have 489 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: really stuck out to and impressed you throughout the offseason program. 490 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: I'll let you go first. Well, we mentioned widely who 491 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: I like. I think the receivers. Jordan VC gets my 492 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: attention just because he's big. He's physically looks like Dory 493 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: Green Beckham from the physical standpoint. Fans are going to 494 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: see what we've seen once camp starts. Devin Ross I 495 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: like the looks at him, Colorado player Sharif Fitch and 496 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: outside linebacker looks the part you know, can he do 497 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: it when the pants come on? I think, well, I'm 498 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: actually just see that one. I think those are the 499 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: four kind of wadley that kind of jump out the 500 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: most of me. Those certainly stand out. Burnett, the wide 501 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: receiver from USC. One thing to remember about him, he's 502 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: just twenty years old, so he may be a guy 503 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: that you say he gets better as he goes his 504 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: upside works forward at the safety position. I think, you know, 505 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: there's some some guys that you're you're kind of interested 506 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: in seeing exactly what's going to happen there. At Kalu 507 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: from Nebraska is the one that jumps out to me. 508 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: And then in the defensive line, Mike Ramsey from Duke 509 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: and Matt Dickerson from UCLA are good looking players. They're 510 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: more good looking prospects in the undrafteds than I've probably 511 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: seen since two thousand and five, when it was obvious 512 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: that because of the salary camp situation, so many undrafteds 513 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: had to make the team. This is really this is 514 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: where kind of the round eight, round nine, round ten 515 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: picks came in for the Titans, and Joseph Estis won more. 516 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: And the only thing about him is that competition in 517 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: that position so deep, no at corner, so he's gonna 518 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: have to have a great campus sticklam. Maybe he's a 519 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: practice squad guy. That's exactly right. You guys just name 520 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: to everybody, so no one stuck out. Having seventy four 521 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: guys make this team, I know, Well, is this roster 522 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: starting to take shape a little bit it or is 523 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: it still way too early? I think it's way too early, 524 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: I think because I think it's the pads thing. We 525 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: were talking about that before you got here, Jim and 526 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: Coach making it clear that they had a nice base 527 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: for everything, but that nothing is going to be settled 528 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: till they put pads on. So I don't know that 529 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: in my mind that anything got fully determined during the 530 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: course of the OTAs of the mini camps, I think 531 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: some people put good thoughts in minds, but we've seen 532 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: that many times before. We've seen that movie. A guy 533 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: goes out in shorts and looks great and then you know, 534 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: gets under the lights the first time and yeah, it 535 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: doesn't know what to do. Yeah, I mean, it's it's 536 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: a it's a grind. Once camp starts and Mike Vrabel camps, 537 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: you're not going to be you know, two hand touch. 538 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna be intense. It's gonna be physical. Uh, 539 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: and you're and vets know how to take care of 540 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: their bodies and work their way through it. Some of 541 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: the young guys who've looked good throughout the offseason, you know, 542 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: have to are going to be challenged to keep it 543 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: going on really quick. Before we have to wrap this up, 544 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: I want to touch on Taylor Lawe and his contract 545 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: a little bit. There are a lot of different options 546 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: of things that could happen with Taylor and his contract. 547 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: Give me some reasons why people shouldn't panic right now 548 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: because they've been talking, and they've been talking regularly. It's 549 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: not like there hadn't been conversations. They've been My sense 550 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 1: is there have been numerous conversations when and Jim's been 551 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: at it as long as I have. With the history 552 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: is when the GM and the agent are in the 553 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: middle of talking, it's going to get worked out. It's 554 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: when nobody's talking that it's scared. Yeah, And I think Tylor, obviously, 555 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, wants to be accountable to this football team. 556 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: He certainly wants to be there for Marcus Mariod and 557 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: his teammates. This is the business side that comes into play. 558 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: What you can't got to keep in mind. And I've 559 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: been through so many of these, went up back in 560 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: the days when I used to work at the Tennessee 561 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, he's on a contract for this 562 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: year making nine point four million. Team will have the 563 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: option to put in the franchise to tag on him 564 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: next year and the year after that. So he knows 565 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: that and the team knows that. Does it get worked 566 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: out with a new contract as the start of training camp? 567 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm willing to put money on 568 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: that right now, but I think eventually things will work 569 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 1: out where everybody's on the same page moving forward. But 570 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: all these play out differently. Mike Ray will set himself 571 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: when talking about he expects everybody to be here at 572 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: the start of camp healthy with accepting the conklin, he 573 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: would ask the next question, would you expect Taylor want 574 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: to be here? He said, I don't know. So you've 575 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: got you've got five weeks maybe to wait and see 576 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: how that plays out. We've got to work otp appearances 577 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: like a quota in his contract. Who do we talk 578 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: to about that? I don't know. That's a good question. Yeah, 579 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking out loud to spit ball. Great Jim White, 580 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: thank you glad to be on. Well, thanks for thinking 581 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: over its moderate Yeah anytime. I think we determined that 582 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: I was the host and you guys have to guess, well, 583 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: I guess that's how it worked out. But I do 584 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: get to say thanks for joining us for the official 585 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: Titans podcast. This has been the ode t